Using !DOCTYPE HTML breaks Canvas in IE8
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg webdesig...@rarpsl.com
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At 16:57 -0400 on 08/01/2012, Tedd Sperling wrote about Re: [css-d] on
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2012-08-02 12:31, Hakan Kirkan wrote:
Using !DOCTYPE HTML breaks Canvas in IE8
If it does, that would not be a CSS issue, would it?
Jukka
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2012-08-02 4:11, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:
Le 2 août 2012 à 06:03, Josh Rehman a écrit :
And, actually the uppercase DOCTYPE is important as
I've run into problems with the lowercase version in some browsers.
That sounds weird. Can you clarify which browsers are affected ?
By XML rules,
On 02/08/2012 10:31, Hakan Kirkan wrote:
Using !DOCTYPE HTML breaks Canvas in IE8
IE8 doesn't support canvas.
Rob
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On 02/08/2012 04:39, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
First is that while browsers may not actually use the referenced DTD
(the http... clause), they do parse the HTML based on the DOCTYPE html
PUBLIC... clause and treat the HTML differently based on what you declare.
No, they don't. It is used
Rob Crowther wrote:
Browsers have never used DOCTYPES, therefore the validation of
whether or not a document conforms (or not) to a DOCTYPE has no
impact on whether or not a browser will correctly parse, interpret
or display it.
I think that is an over-simplification, and one that is
On 8/1/12 8:39 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 16:57 -0400 on 08/01/2012, Tedd Sperling wrote about Re: [css-d] on
html and css versions:
What is wrong with using?
!DOCTYPE html
Sure it doesn't have a *real* DTD, but the W3C validator does somehow
validate pages that have this DOCTYPE
On 02/08/2012 17:02, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
I think that is an over-simplification, and one that is misleading
if it gets into the wrong hands.
Not really, otherwise tricks like having a DOCTYPE without a DTD
wouldn't work.
The problem is that different browsers (or
even different versions
Rob Crowther wrote: On 02/08/2012 17:02, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
I think that is an over-simplification, and one that is misleading
if it gets into the wrong hands.
Not really, otherwise tricks like having a DOCTYPE without a DTD
wouldn't work.
I respectfully disagree. My assertion was
On 02/08/12 18:49, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
that if a page validates against the DTD given in
the DOCTYPE directive, then it is more likely to
be parsed and rendered correctly than if it does not.
OK, then define parsed and rendered correctly. Or, put another way:
where is the parsing process
Rob Crowther wrote:
OK, then define parsed and rendered correctly.
Exactly as you meant it in your earlier message :
whether or not a browser will correctly parse, interpret or display
it.
Or, put another way: where is the parsing process for a text file
conforming to HTML4's DTD
On 02/08/12 19:40, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Exactly as you meant it in your earlier message :
I meant it as defined in the HTML5 specification. You're apparently
disallowing that, so I wanted to know what your definition was.
The specification for the parsing process for HTML 4.01 is directly
Rob Crowther wrote:
On 02/08/12 19:40, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
Exactly as you meant it in your earlier message :
I meant it as defined in the HTML5 specification. You're apparently
disallowing that, so I wanted to know what your definition was.
How things are defined the HTML 5 Draft
On 02/08/12 20:50, Philip TAYLOR wrote:
How things are defined the HTML 5 Draft specification
is relevant only to HTML 5; since we are discussing
documents that specify a DTD in their DOCTYPE directive,
that clearly rules out documents coded to the HTML 5
Draft specification.
No, it defines
On Aug 1, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Georg gunla...@c2i.net wrote:
My point is that to imply anything by simply presenting a tiny bit of code,
is not good practice. It does not really tell much to those who don't know it
all beforehand - and they don't have to be told (hopefully). The OP's basic
On 01.08.2012 14:41, Tedd Sperling wrote:
As for good practice, using a tiny amount of code to accomplish something is
better than using more than what's needed.
If you say so :-)
regards
Georg
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On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Georg gunla...@c2i.net wrote:
On 01.08.2012 14:41, Tedd Sperling wrote:
As for good practice, using a tiny amount of code to accomplish something
is better than using more than what's needed.
If you say so :-)
regards
Georg
Well... I'm just simple
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Tedd Sperling t...@sperling.com wrote:
Unfortunately/fortunately there are many choices, for example:
http://www.w3.org/QA/2002/04/valid-dtd-list.html
What is a novice to do? Can the choice be simple?
What is wrong with using?
!DOCTYPE html
Nothing. Use
On 01.08.2012 22:57, Tedd Sperling wrote:
What is wrong with using?
!DOCTYPE html
Sure it doesn't have a *real* DTD, but the W3C validator does somehow validate pages that
have this DOCTYPE declaration, right? So, there must be some sort of *standards* it
validates contents against, right?
Le 2 août 2012 à 06:03, Josh Rehman a écrit :
And, actually the uppercase DOCTYPE is important as
I've run into problems with the lowercase version in some browsers.
That sounds weird. Can you clarify which browsers are affected ?
Philippe
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh e...@l-c-n.com wrote:
Le 2 août 2012 à 06:03, Josh Rehman a écrit :
And, actually the uppercase DOCTYPE is important as
I've run into problems with the lowercase version in some browsers.
That sounds weird. Can you clarify which browsers
At 16:57 -0400 on 08/01/2012, Tedd Sperling wrote about Re: [css-d]
on html and css versions:
What is wrong with using?
!DOCTYPE html
Sure it doesn't have a *real* DTD, but the W3C validator does
somehow validate pages that have this DOCTYPE declaration, right?
So, there must be some sort
Hi there,
this is not strictly a css question but closely related.
What html dtd is recommended to reach the most users? HTML 4.01
Transitional -- and CSS2?
- Gergely
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On 31.07.2012 10:59, Gergely Buday wrote:
What html dtd is recommended to reach the most users? HTML 4.01
Transitional -- and CSS2?
Markup: the Stricter the better. Markup in accordance with HTML 4.01
Strict works fine in around 99.99% of browsers _in use_ today.
HTML5 using new elements may
What html dtd is recommended to reach the most users? HTML 4.01
Transitional -- and CSS2?
I use this as my starting point for all my pages these days:
!DOCTYPE html
html
head
meta content=text/html; charset=utf-8 http-equiv=Content-Type
titleUntitled 1/title
/head
body
/body
/html
On 01.08.2012 00:14, Tedd Sperling wrote:
This works for me, my students, and W3C validation:
---
!doctype html
html lang=en-us
head
meta charset=utf-8
Since that only contains an HTML5 standards mode trigger (for better
than v.5.5 CSS support in IE/win *) and no DTD to
2012-08-01 4:16, Georg wrote:
On 01.08.2012 00:14, Tedd Sperling wrote:
This works for me, my students, and W3C validation:
---
!doctype html
html lang=en-us
head
meta charset=utf-8
Since that only contains an HTML5 standards mode trigger (for better
than v.5.5 CSS support in
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