Re: [CTRL] Fw: [piml] Fwd: NEA In Their Own Words

2001-01-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The NEA has become the most powerful special interest group in the United States. Compared to what? To the defenece industry? To the oil industry? Even to the religious right? Gimme a break. the NEA has presided over the virtual crumbling of our nation's schools. That

Re: [CTRL] Global warming claims 'based on false data'??

2001-01-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- No source should be necessary for a basic fact of physics that is taught in every school. Or you can prove it yourself by putting an ice cube into a glass of water and observing what happens. Put salt in the water first if you want to more accurately simulate ocean waters.

[CTRL] Guns, drugs and abortion. Oh my.

2001-01-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/33.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sord

Re: [CTRL] Ashcroft a Threat to Freedom of Press

2001-01-15 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The truth is the opposite of this piece. Prove it. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid

Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS

2001-01-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- And by default these same individuals may eventually come to find that the reek of skunk spray in the wind no longer seems to stink, but actually "smells good" as well. That's not always skunk spray you're smelling out there in the woods. 8^ ) A

Re: [CTRL] NM: Inside Cover Story: Senator Spector the Defector

2001-01-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- liberals hate him for the single bullet theory (1.) Which liberals? What exactly did they say? When did they say this? Where were they at the time? Be specific. Cite your sources. (2.) The first truly comprehensive account of what really happened that day in Dealy Plaza was

[CTRL] Marijuana is target in battle on drugs

2001-01-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Sunday, January 14, 2001 Marijuana is target in battle on drugs JEFF PORTER ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE Although President Clinton says a little marijuana shouldn't be a crime, arrests for marijuana possession have more than doubled during his administration.

[CTRL] FW: [CIA-DRUGS] DEA quoting PhoenixHouse-87percent NY teen patients in 1999 were for marijuana

2001-01-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun 1/14/2001 6:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] DEA quoting PhoenixHouse-87percent NY teen "patients" in 1999 were for marijuana Use among youth: The marijuana problem among youth is

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: How Southern Violations of States Rights Caused the Civil War

2001-01-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- In fact the cause of the Civil War was neither slavery nor "states rights". Gale Norton has it wrong.Todays "Civil Rights" groups have it wrong. The history books have it wrong (intentionally wrong). Nakano has it wrong too, though what he says is true enough as far as it goes.

Re: [CTRL] Picture of IT?

2001-01-14 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I want one. What's the patent number? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and

[CTRL] The Confederacy's Favorite Nominee

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Published on Friday, January 12, 2001 in the Boston Globe The Confederacy's Favorite Nominee by Derrick Z. Jackson IF THE SENATE Judiciary Committee straightens its backbone rather than slap the back of attorney general nominee John Ashcroft, we may get to see why his

Re: [CTRL] Forget the health aspect, it's the AESTHETICS [was So, you thought it was the tar etc.]

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- They both stink up everything their smoke comes in contact "Stink" is a subjective term. Many people think marijuana smells good. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] UPI: A 'Space Pearl Harbor'?

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The device is made in Russia and is commercially available worldwide, Where? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Racism And The Fight For Democracy

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The LAW won out rather than the mob. Are you saying that you consider We The People to be a mob? If so, what's that make you? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Racism And The Fight For Democracy

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- No. Then who IS the mob? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] [endsecrecy] Right-wing idealogue as Att Gen?

2001-01-13 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- As opposed to the left wing ideologues of the Clinton administration? Left wing, right wing, same bird. Forget the wings. Look out for the claws and the droppings. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational

[CTRL] FW: Vatican denies Holocaust

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Jonathan Levy Sent: Thu 1/11/2001 11:05 PM Subject:Vatican denies Holocaust The Vatican Bank has filed a challenge with the California Attorney General claiming California's Holocaust claims law is unconstitutional. Jewish

Re: [CTRL] Robert Lederman and David Icke

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Nessie, this Lederman dude is a crank. That’s a matter of opinion. It’s also irrelevant. Like anyone’s report of events, Lederman's should be judged on the basis of how well its contents coincide with the empirical evidence and not on the relative sanity (whatever that means

[CTRL] lassey@JUNO.COM

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Ashcroft's "Charitable Choice" Total rubbish. Maybe. Maybe not. Present a logical rebuttal, backed up by verifiable citations (URLs, ISBNs, page numbers, etc.) and we’ll consider them. In the meantime, your personal opinions

[CTRL] One thing leads to another.

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Read them in order. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_82/820398.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1112000/1112411.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_904000/904619.stm A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I am clearly (to you at least) ignorant on these subjects because I haven't read the 2 books you have pointed out. You haven’t read much of anything, at least not in this field. You haven’t even read what I say very closely. I recommended those two books as a good place for

[CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: [redacted] To: [redacted] Subject: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 [The movement to restore the Confederacy is really picking up steam. John Ashcroft's alliance with a wide range of far-right groups is but the tip of

Re: [CTRL] FW: [RRE]restoring the Confederacy

2001-01-12 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- You statement is unquestionably true - however I fail miserably when I try to understand how a self-professed anarchist ends up supporting a government, laws, a judicial system. It's not my statement. I don't support it. I passed it on. That's what the "FW" in the Subject field

Re: [CTRL] Relativity or are Republicans evil?

2001-01-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- who goes golfing 800 miles away as his daughter recovers from emergency surgery Actually, he was fishing. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] Relativity or are Republicans evil?

2001-01-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Actually, he was golfing and fishing. Worse. What a cold blooded guy. I'm sure glad he's not MY dad. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] Your Typical Democratic Voter

2001-01-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- All they want is what they can get from the government. Two words: corporate welfare A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Cubans May Be Active Near U.S-Mexican Border

2001-01-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Several U.S. and Mexican officials One Mexican law enforcement source Numerous reports One Mexican official said A Mexican factory worker American law enforcement sources “We continue to hear reports word is now starting to leak out people in the border regions

Re: [CTRL] (CTRL) Has America lost its Goodness?

2001-01-11 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- America was built by slaves on stolen land. What's good about that? OK, nobody rose to the bait, so I'll answer my own question. It was rhetorical, anyway. The point I'm trying to make is that America's morality has been on very shaky ground since before America even existed.

[CTRL] Fwd: Africa's Science and Indigenous Knowledge Systems

2001-01-10 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- No place on earth has had more of it's history actively suppressed by the powers that be, which certainly makes it on topic for this list. -- nessie ** -Original Message- From: [redacted] Sent: Wed 1/10/2001

[CTRL] FW: Bush, Abortion and Racial Eugenics by R Lederman

2001-01-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 1/9/2001 10:33 AM To: undisclosed-recipients Cc: Subject:[CIA-DRUGS] Bush, Abortion and Racial Eugenics by R Lederman Bush, Abortion and Racial Eugenics: The Real Story by Robert Lederman Was Lincoln

Re: [CTRL] (CTRL) Has America lost its Goodness?

2001-01-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- America was built by slaves on stolen land. What's good about that? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These

Re: [CTRL] Betr.: Re: [CTRL] Fw: TDI - Gun Control - 2001-01-09

2001-01-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Gunowning is sickning. Why? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] Betr.: Re: [CTRL] Fw: TDI - Gun Control - 2001-01-09

2001-01-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 1/9/01 2:43:55 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gunowning is sickning No I did not. Somebody named Gre Schippers wrote that. I challenged him (or her, as the case may be) to explain him-(or her-)self. I myself am a strong proponant of

Re: [CTRL] Betr.: Re: [CTRL] Betr.: Re: [CTRL] Fw: TDI - Gun Control - 2001 -01-09

2001-01-09 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Phhffrrl If that's the most intelligent response you can come up with, no wonder you can't comprehend the self evident virtue of being able to protect yourself and your family from being raped, robbed and murdered. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] American Anarchism / Libertarianism vs Socialism

2001-01-08 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- In reality, Socialism is a social system in which the means of producing and distributing goods are owned collectively and political power is exercised by the whole community. Communities. Plural. State Capitalism is an oxymoron ... while monopolies cannot exist WITHOUT a

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory

2001-01-08 Thread Nessie
to start finding that evidence. Obviously you haven’t bothered to pursue it. Ergo, you’re a dilettante. Nothing personal. I just call ‘em like I see ‘em. It doesn’t mean that you aren’t a nice guy. You may be. But a scholar you ain’t. Nessie is a feminine name, it ends in a 'ie'. I can

Re: [CTRL] HOOVER INSTITUTION WANTS COVER OPERATIONS, NOW MORE THAN EVER!

2001-01-08 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- low-tech regimes in places like Serbia The "low-tech" Serbians are the only people in history to ever shoot down a Stealth plane. A real bunch of bumpkins, eh? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange

Re: [CTRL] American Anarchism / Libertarianism vs Socialism

2001-01-07 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Socialism is not a form of government -- it's a relationship between people, one characterized by sharing. What the statists call "socialism" is just another form of oppression, state monopoly capitalism. REAL socialism is like Acts 2:44-46. It's voluntary, not imposed. A

Re: [CTRL] Has America lost its Goodness?

2001-01-07 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Why is sex the only thing that strikes you as immoral? Why think sex is immoral at all? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory

2001-01-06 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Is 'Merlin Stone' a pagan/Wiccan himself by any chance? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, it’s irrelevant. What is relevant is that she’s a historian with a strong background in archeology and presents a good case well. But you wouldn’t know that, because you didn’t bothered to

[CTRL] FW: California Technology Company sues Catholic Religious Cult

2001-01-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Jonathan Levy Sent: Thu 1/4/2001 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:California Technology Company sues Catholic Religious Cult FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 5, 2001 Autodisc Incorporated Contact: Jonathan Levy , Esq.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory

2001-01-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Furthermore, scholars generally agree that there is no indication, either archaeological or in the written record, that any ancient people ever worshipped a single, archetypal goddess Some scholars agree. Others do not. Read Raphael Patai, Merlin Stone or Marija Gimbutas.

Re: [CTRL] 93 Christians Killed For Not Coverting to Islam

2001-01-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I'll bet the christians will make a big issue out of the fact that they were christians and play down the political reality. Any Christian who condemns the slaughter of anybody for their religious beliefs is a hypocrite. Even a cursory perusal of history demonstrates

Re: [CTRL] 93 Christians Killed For Not Coverting to Islam

2001-01-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- there is a difference in being a Christian rather then claiming to be one. "you will know them by their fruit." Then the "real" Christians should do something about the "imposters" who are besmearching the name of their faith. If a guy ca

Re: [CTRL] Carla Binion: Which Side Are We On?

2001-01-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- There can be no healing until congressional Democrats wake up and address the concerns of black voters in a meaningful way. Don't hold your breath. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Wiccan Pseudohistory

2001-01-05 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- .There are some scholars who claim that AIDs is caused by Paraffin on apples, and others who believe the earth was created 6,000 years ago by a big man living in the clouds. That in no way refutes the work of Raphael Patai, Merlin Stone or Marija Gimbutas. It's a fine theory,

Re: [CTRL] Check out CNN.com - Indian elephant tramples man and keeps the corpse - Decem

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- DRAT I CAN'T GET THIS LINK TO WORK. Try this one instead: http://www.sightings.com/general6/ele.htm A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Californias Power Crisis - a natural result of rampant Environmentalism

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- If anybody remembers the contrived gas shortages of the 1970s, they will remember that the ultimate result was to make gas prices IMMEDIATELY rise from 30 odd to 60 odd cents per gallon and for them to remain PERMANENTLY RAISED. How's that for a neat way to multiply corporate

Re: [CTRL] Fw: A Cheney Note

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- From the spoken word of Vice President-Elect Dick Cheney... Source, please. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] ...Elephant Tramples Man And Keeps the Corpse

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- This is quite different from the version on Sightings.com. I wonder what really happened. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not

Re: [CTRL] Hidden emitters in cars to cause an accident (fwd)

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Stop a car with radio waves? No problem. Hidden devices not necessary. See: http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/29.html http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/30.html http://www.sfbg.com/nessie/31.html A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝ

[CTRL] More on Ashcroft

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/01/03/partisan/print.html Ashcroft whistles Dixie Bush's attorney general nominee is only the latest conservative lawmaker caught pandering to fans of the Confederacy in a tiny but powerful Southern journal. - - - - - - - -

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Fw: [CTRL] (re: disenfranchised voters)

2001-01-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- A shoving match in a hallway is not a riot no matter how liberals exaggerate it in their reporting. Be scientific. Do an experiment. Dress in black hooded sweatshirts with circle-A on them, try a stunt like that and see what happens. When you get out of jail, report back on

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Lima Sex Maniacs

2001-01-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Is this a 'conspiracy' to undermine the true tenets of the Libertarian party? This sounds like trap bait. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] Christians and Conspiracy Theory

2001-01-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Mythology: other people's religion A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and

Re: [CTRL] abuse in great britian

2001-01-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Neither Scotland Yard nor Web Today are even remotely credible sources. This is not to say they are not telling the truth in this particular instance. Maybe they are. But anything said by either of them should be rigorously vetted before being passed off as news. Web Today only

[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Californias Power Crisis - a natural result of rampant Environmentalism

2001-01-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The "crisis" is totally contrived. Half the plants in California are curently down "for repairs." The parent corporations of the local power companies are making money hand over fist. There is PLENTY of electricity to go around. This isn't about electricity. It's about money. A

Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones

2001-01-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- What a sad, dismal life to have nothing to believe in. Everybody believes in something. I believe in doubt. I keep track of how many times I believe something and it turns out later it was the right thing to do. I also keep track of how many times I doubt something and it turns

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Bible Biggest Conspiracy Theory since Kris and CTRL

2001-01-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- human nature being what it is, I suspect that conspiracies existed amongst the ancient cave painters of the Stone Age... It's as natural as breathing. Everybody does it. Whe we spell in front of our kids, we are conspiring. When we convince our siblings to distract mommy while

Re: [CTRL] [an error occurred while processing this directive]

2001-01-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- nothing wrong with my browser, unless there is something wrong with MSIE 5.5 MSIE's default mode is to spy on you. Is that something right with it? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The news media and political protests

2001-01-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- They are more likely to do that if large numbers of people write and phone them in advance to let them know what we expect. Dream on. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] MOVE (was: All the Militia News)

2000-12-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I was not aware any babies were involved in this incendiary bombing. The entire neighborhood burned rather slowly by WACO standards so people should have been able to evacuate. Can you (or anyone) give death toll figures including how many were children? Eleven people died,

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- This is a formula for determining Representation of a State. Representation of a State is determined by counting the number of human beings who live there. The formula calls for some human beings to counted as a human being, some human beings to be counted as three fifths of a

Re: [CTRL] Deke Bones

2000-12-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- actually help our republic There's a LOT more than just our republic at stake here. The entire world is effected by the actions of the cryptocracy. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] Just Say No To Ashcroft!

2000-12-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Glad there is someone to say NO to Democratic control freaks. Too bad there is no one to say no to the Republican control freaks. Last time we had a guy like this it was Ed Meese. He gutted the Fourth Amendment. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] Just Say No To Ashcroft!

2000-12-31 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- No one could possibly be worse than her. Try Ed Meese or John Mitchell. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please!

Re: [CTRL] Ashcroft Nomination for Attorney General Bodes Ill for Drug Policy Reform

2000-12-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Got an ULRL for that? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] SNET: All the Militia News (fwd)

2000-12-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I wept in anger and frustration as I watched men, women and children burned to death in Waco by the pusillanimous ATF and FBI on orders from Washington. I was equally incensed by government murders of a young boy and a woman with a baby in her arms at Ruby Ridge, Idaho. I

Re: [CTRL] Marrs-Is someone preventing our exploration of Mars?

2000-12-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Normally, I take Jim Marrs, Alienzoo, and especially remote viewing, with a very large grain of salt. But maybe he’s onto something here. It does make perfect sense. If I was a Martian, and I saw the Earthlings coming, I shoot ‘em down, too. And quick, before they could establish

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Environmental warfare, Chossudovsky

2000-12-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- It could just be part of a larger weather pattern. We can't discount the effects of non-HAARP modifications by man... Both these things are true. Neither mean we should arbitrarly discount HAARP. What I want to know is how many other installations like HAARP there are,

[CTRL] FW: oops

2000-12-30 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- There's a quote going around: "I am angry that so many of the sons of the powerful and well-placed and so many professional athletes (who were probably healthier than any of us) managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units," he wrote. "Of the many tragedies of

[CTRL] FW: VATICAN ATTACKS CALIFORNIA HOLOCAUST LAW AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL

2000-12-29 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Jonathan Levy Sent: Fri 12/29/2000 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:VATICAN ATTACKS CALIFORNIA HOLOCAUST LAW AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL News for Immediate Release December 29, 2000 Easton Levy, Attorneys Jonathan Levy (513)

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Fulton J. Sheen Accused of Plagiarism

2000-12-29 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- THe title is misleading. It is not Sheen who is being acused, but a guy who wrote a book about him. "An expert on the late Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen has accused a New York priest of plagiarizing her work in his biography of the Roman Catholic televangelist." A

[CTRL] gun control

2000-12-29 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- My latest column on SFBG.com sparked some lively debate over on Indymedia. According to some people, I’m “acting like a typical white/male/suburban paranoid nut” and have “something seriously messed up, upstairs.” My opposition to victim disarmament is compared to telling “you

Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Mentally Ill Homeless In Phoenix, AZ

2000-12-28 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The choice of incarceration or medication should be up to them. http://www.sfbg.com/News/35/13/13ill.html Mad as hell Advocates for mentally ill people battle forced "treatment" by cops and docs. By Cassi Feldman LAST APRIL WE got a phone call from a woman in San

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-28 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Additionally, there is no declaration, claim, assertion or otherwise that slaves are 3/5 of a human that can be found within the United States Constitution -- yours and others efforts at mental masturbation inclusive. What is referenced is simply a formula for determining House

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-28 Thread Nessie
://www.sfbg.com/nessie/32.html A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many

Re: [CTRL] Does Patriotism Equal 'Hate Site'?Wiesenthal CenterNames 3,000 'Offenders' Incl

2000-12-28 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- This makes accepting that the WC is not a Nazi puppet very, very difficult. Don't get ridiculous. Got a better explanation? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: The Invisible Hand: Still Scary After AllTheseYears]

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Why not take it one level higher and call it what it really is? Elitism. The source of all social problems in every society to date. What it's called, is classism. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- It is time to go back to the wisdom of the Founders, who wrote a constitution without reference to ethnic or gender groups. They did so in order to render us equal before the nation's system of law. They did no such thing. Slaves were considered three-fifths of a human being.

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- He said the ideal was "imperfectly realized" - this implies recognition of the compromise and recognition that there was room for improvement. "Lie" is too strong an accusation to apply to an alternate interpretation of events. "Opinion different from Nessie's (or mine, anyone

Re: [CTRL] Meet Your Enemy

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Lessor of two evils is bad thinking. That is why we have only the Democrats and Republicans as the "one" party system. We have the system we do because the powers that be control law enforcement and the military. Russia was in bad shape at the end of WWII and if we did not

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Point to the specific article, section and clause. Article 1, Section two of the American Constitution: "The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States . . . "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- You confuse a formula for determining Representation with people. Nowhere in the citation YOU provided does it claim that, "Slaves were considered three-fifths of a human being." It uses a euphamism, "those bound to Service," but so what? Bound is bound no matter what you

Re: [CTRL] License to Kill

2000-12-27 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Where are people 'measured'? Where are 'slaves considered three-fifths of a human being'? If you don't get it, maybe it's because you don't want to. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list.

Re: [CTRL] Questions For Colin Powell

2000-12-25 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: William Shannon Sent: Mon 12/25/2000 4:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject:[CTRL] Questions For Colin Powell COMMENT | January 8, 2001 http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20010108s=corn Questions for Powell by DAVID

Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: Defense 'Train Wreck'

2000-12-24 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- He opened the doors to allow "gays' into the militarynot to obtain fairness for gays but to undermine morale and to foment unrest in the ranks. If you think gays can't fight, read a bio of Alexander the Great. He was queer as a three dollar bill and he was the second

Re: [CTRL] Letter from the Gipper's son

2000-12-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- During the past eight years, the scandal-plagued Clinton-Gore administration has dimmed this bright light, besmirching our country in the eyes of the world. This corrupt duo have impugned the integrity of America's political institutions. During the past eight years, the

[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'pres'-elect bush: Takeover would BE EASIER IFIWEREDICTATOR! EXACT QUOTE!

2000-12-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I have not heard the same level of malice returned to Liberals/Democrats either. That's incredible. Are you reading the same list!?! Has anyone else here missed out on the constant stream of (oft deserved) venom that pours from the right? This list fairly drips with it. The

Re: [CTRL] Bush-World Champion Executioner

2000-12-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Communism can only exist through Statism. This is simply untrue. Even today, after thousands of years of militant statism, there are many autonomous, egalitarian societies. You really should read more anthropology. Your ignorance is showing. Try starting with People Without

Re: [CTRL] McMartin Tunnels

2000-12-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Seems to me it would have been very hard to build this complex of tunnels in secret. I take it you have never read an account of life at Luftstalag III, or seen Hollywood's fictionalized version, The Great Escape. And you're probably too young to remember Viet Nam. (sigh) Oh

[CTRL] Pretty good collection of articles.

2000-12-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Don't read all at once, you might become nauseous. http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/alt_election.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are

[CTRL] Fwd: eBookman

2000-12-21 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Presumably item 3 means that location such as Lawrence Livermore Labs, Sandia, etc. will not be allowed to develop for the eBookman (a Palm-like device). --- Please be aware that in order to download the

Re: [CTRL] Bush-World Champion Executioner

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Germany? They "executed" six million Jews and do little to stop their neo-nazis of today who approve. First of all, "they" were almost all born after the war was over. Should we condemn them for the acts of their parents, grandparents and in millions of cases,

[CTRL] RE: [CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Re: Re: [CTRL] Fwd: 'pres'-elect bush: Takeover would BE EASIER IFIWEREDICTATOR! EXACT QUOTE!

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Please let us be civil. In tone and word. Let's not drive the Republicans, or the Democrats for that matter, off this list. We need as much input, from a many and as varied people as possible. Even a broken clock's right twice a day. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A

Re: [CTRL] Secret plan for EU 'Superstate'

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Europe would have a combined GDP that surpasses the U.S., while still maintaining a social system that provides a REAL safety net for the poor. Why should we NEED a safety net for the poor? Why should there BE poverty? This is a bountiful planet. If we share it, ALL can live

Re: [CTRL] Secret plan for EU 'Superstate'

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- sin prevents Which one? A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] Bush-World Champion Executioner

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hmm. The obvious and rediculous Fascists who march around with shaved heads and silly costumes are not the real Fascist threat. In 1986 skinheads murdered my neighbor. Eight of them beat him to death with pipes. I was across town when it happened or it would have turned out

[CTRL] You newspaper people are just trying to stir things up.

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/lake/orl-recount-12192000-stor y.story?coll=orl%2Dhome%2Dheadlines Gore would have gained votes David Damron, Ramsey Campbell and Roger Roy of the Sentinel Staff Posted December 19, 2000 TAVARES -- An inspection of more than

Re: [CTRL] Secret plan for EU 'Superstate'

2000-12-20 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Why should any portion of my earnings be handed out to those who have less than me? Why should any portion of our earnings be handed over to the rich? That is theft. A HREF!ttp://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ÝÝÝCTRL is a discussion informational

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