[CTRL] Afghani Dreamin'

[Euphorian]

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Afghan Angst
Bay Area community watches Taliban depredations from afar
Jonathan Curiel, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, March 18, 2001
©2001 San Francisco Chronicle
URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-
bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/18/MN180590.DTL


In Kabul, Herat, Kandahar and other cities in Afghanistan, Now-ruz --
the  traditional Afghan New Year -- will pass on Tuesday without
fanfare. In the  Bay Area, scores of Afghan men, women and children
will dress up, make special  food and play music, just as their
Persian-speaking ancestors have done for  thousands of years.
We will celebrate our tradition over here, said Suraya Ahmadzai,
40, who  arrived in Fremont last year with her two daughters and
three sons. We're not  going to forget about it.
Although the Taliban's recent destruction of Afghanistan's biggest
Buddhist  statues has captured world attention, for many of the Bay
Area's estimated 60, 000 Afghans it is just the latest evidence of
horrors that have befallen their  homeland since the fundamentalist
religious group gained control. Less widely  reported, for example,
are the Taliban's strict rules against celebrating Now- ruz.
Five years ago, Mohammed Najibullah, Afghanistan's widely hated
Communist- backed president, was hung from a noose in Kabul, his
flesh poked and prodded  by angry Afghan men.
When the Taliban killed and castrated Najibullah in 1996, they began
a  reign that still has repercussions in the Bay Area, which is home
to the  largest Afghan community in North America.
Many with relatives in Afghanistan fear the Taliban and refuse to
speak out  publicly against them -- but for Sediqullah Rahi, one of
Najibullah's two  surviving brothers, hatred outweighs any other
concern.
They're very primitive, close-minded people, Rahi said during an
interview in his Fremont home. They are not allowing anything
progressive in  Afghanistan. Our economy is destroyed, our social
life is destroyed, our  people's lives are nothing. And, now, they're
destroying our cultural life,  too.
Rahi's three-bedroom apartment has turned into a refuge for 13
people,  including his cousin Ahmadzai and her family.
In Afghanistan, she taught history, geography and other high school
subjects. One daughter, Illai, 26, was studying to be an engineer. A
son,  Faheem, 22, was preparing to be a doctor. Uprooted but happy to
be away from  the daily threat of death, they are taking English
classes and hoping to  resume a normal life, 7,300 miles from the
land that nourished them since  childhood.
Waves of Afghan refugees have come to the Bay Area for 20 years.
Concentrated in Fremont, Hayward and other East Bay cities -- and
lacking  highly visible political organizations that lobby city halls
-- Afghans here  have been hidden to most of the wider Bay Area
population.
That's beginning to change. With the building of new Afghan mosques,
the  opening of more Afghan businesses and the emergence of a
generation of Afghan  children reared and educated in the United
States, the Bay Area's Afghan  community might soon metamorphose into
a more prominent ethnic body.
When the first large wave of refugees arrived in the United States
shortly  after Soviet troops invaded Afghanistan in 1979, they
thought they would  return to their country within months or a few
years. Today, Afghans in the  Bay Area realize that peace may never
completely prevail, and that home is  now here.
As they say, Fremont is happening, said Feraidoon Mojadidi, a Herat-
born  man who owns the Rumi Bookstore in Fremont.
In the past 10 years, so many Afghan businesses have opened near the
intersection of Fremont and Peralta boulevards that Afghans jokingly
call the  area Little Kabul.
Within walking distance of Mojadidi's bookstore are shops that
specialize  in all things Afghan -- jewelry, pottery, newspapers,
music, rice and bread.
Lining the stores are posters that show smiling Afghan men in native
hats  called pakol, posters that show the armed mujahideen who
terrorized Soviet  troops until they left Afghanistan in 1989, and
posters that show one of  Afghanistan's most famous faces: the girl
from a refugee camp who graced the  cover of National Geographic in
1985. If there is a sad symbol of the Afghan  diaspora, it is the
girl with traumatized eyes who has not been seen since the  photo was
published.
Prompted by the Soviet occupation and the subsequent internecine
warfare  among rival Afghan groups, more than 5 million people have
fled the country in  the past 20 years, most going to Iran and
Pakistan. About 50,000 Afghans live  in Russia, 40,000 in Germany and
a lesser number in other European countries,  Afghans say. Most who
came to the United States settled in New York,  Washington, Los
Angeles and the Bay Area.
How did Fremont become the de facto capital of Bay Area Afghan life?
Afghans attribute the influx to three factors: comfortable weather,
hilly  surroundings that remind refugees of Afghanistan and a word-of-

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Friday, June 22, 2001

Mexico:  The next Lebanon?
By Joseph Farah
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com
We've all heard and read the reports recently about how the Mexican
government is actively promoting illegal migration into the United
States – even providing survival kits to those intending to cross the
Rio Grande and make their way to the promised land.

Mexico makes little or no effort to police its border with the U.S.
It minimizes the threat the refugees pose to the United States. It
even suggests its overflow population should be welcomed into the
U.S.

Therefore, a recent news item originating in the San Diego Union-
Tribune was something of a shocker for several reasons.

Mexico's National Security Adviser Adolfo Aguilar Zinser made the sensational 
announcement that Islamic terrorist organizations have a presence along the U.S. 
border and may be making contacts with Mexican guerrilla group
s.

We have evidence that organizations or people linked to Islamic organizations could 
have a presence here or be passing through, Aguilar told a local radio program. 
Though declining to identify the specific groups, he al
so said the groups could have indigenous guerrilla ties.

The announcement was not intended to alarm U.S. authorities, but rather to quell fears 
in Mexico about the possibility of guerrilla attacks.

Our duty is to find them and send [them] away from the country so they don't put 
roots down here or try to use our territory as a haven, he explained.

While Aguilar wouldn't name names, the newspaper El Universal and other Mexican 
dailies did. They said the Islamic militants trying to form a base of operations in 
Mexico are tied to Hezbollah, the Syrian and Iranian-back
ed terrorists who established a base in Lebanon and have used it ever since to launch 
rocket and guerrilla attacks on Israel's northern border.

And, despite the reassuring words of Aguilar, the Mexican media reports make clear the 
true purpose of the Islamic terrorists in the country – to carry out guerrilla 
activities in the United States. But even Zinser acknow
ledged the potential threat to the U.S.

The geographical proximity with the United States puts us on alert so that we are not 
the passing-through point for any of these organizations, he said.

Because this report got little media attention in the United States – and next to none 
in areas far from the border – it is safe to say this is an issue not on the radar 
screen in Washington. But it's clear to me that the
 Islamic terrorists currently focusing their attention on destroying Israel are taking 
their fight to what they consider the ultimate enemy – the Great Satan of the United 
States.

Let me tell you, folks, this is not an enemy the U.S. Border Patrol can handle.

There's been debate in a few circles lately about whether it's time to use the U.S. 
military to stem the flow of illegal immigration into the U.S. from south of the 
border. I've never been one to suggest the U.S. military
 needs more deployments. It is already vastly over-deployed. And there is always a 
civil liberties threat when the U.S. military deploys on domestic soil.

But the one true objective of the U.S. military – the one defined by the U.S. 
Constitution – is to defend the borders of the country.

Personally, I think this is a much more sensible deployment than those in Macedonia, 
Bosnia, Kosovo, Haiti and dozens of other remote places the U.S. acts as policeman of 
the world.

Meanwhile, as our troops patrol borders in these and other countries, our own borders 
are as porous as a sieve.

The illegal immigration into the United States in recent years has had devastating 
effects on the infrastructure of our country. It has been a demoralizing factor for 
millions of Americans – especially those who live clos
est to the problems.

But all that is nothing compared to the horror and anguish that
Americans will experience when the first truck bomber makes it across
the border and delivers his load at a vulnerable U.S. target.  It's
nothing compared to the terror Americans will experience when the
first airliner is blown out of the sky by hand-held, guided, American-
made Stinger missiles from south of the border – or north.  It's
nothing compared to the anger Americans will experience when Katyusha
rockets start hitting American cities the way they routinely hit
Israeli towns in Galilee.

Sound far-fetched?  With so little attention on Mexico, it could well
become America's Lebanon.
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Re: [CTRL] John P. O'Neill/ inves re Tampa/ TWA 800

[Samantha L.]

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  By accident, I came across a news piece that mentioned a 1997 investigation
of a MidEast think tank located in Tampa, Fl.   The group was under
investigation to see if they passed money to Middle East terrorists
(reference below).

  The briefcase (full of classified documents) that John P. O'Neill was
investigated for being negligent with was lost in a Tampa hotel. (full St.
Petersburg Times article below).   [CNN mentioned that the briefcase in
question  contained several documents that included a report outlining
virtually every national security operation in New York. ]

  I got the idea that Tampa might be an inopportune city to lose track of
such documents.

  Below that, I found 3 cites that link John P. O'Neill with the TWA 800
investigation.

http://www.ardmoreite.com/stories/052597/news/news17.html
Terrorist groups raise money in U.S.
By Richard Cole
Associated Press Writer
Posted May 25, 1997

[snip}

A network of U.S.-based Islamic foundations is under investigation by the
U.S. Customs Service to determine if they passed money to Middle East
terrorists.

One is in Florida, where investigators are searching for evidence of
wrongdoing in stacks of Arabic documents, encrypted computer files and bank
records seized from the World and Islam Studies Enterprise,   [[  a
Tampa-based Mideast think tank once affiliated with the University of South
Florida.  ]]
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http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/index.html

St. Petersburg Times; St. Petersburg, Fla.; Aug 20, 2001;

Full Text:
Copyright Times Publishing Co. Aug 20, 2001

The FBI has begun an internal investigation into one of its most senior
counterterrorism officials, whose briefcase filled with documents on national
security operations was stolen after he left it in a hotel conference room in
Tampa last summer, the New York Times reported.

The official, John O'Neill, 49, is the special agent in charge of national
security in the FBI's New York office. He has overseen cases like the
terrorist bombing of the Navy destroyer Cole in Yemen last year and the
bombings of American Embassies in East Africa in 1998.

O'Neill left his briefcase in a hotel conference room while he attended an
FBI meeting in Tampa. The briefcase was stolen, but local authorities
recovered it and returned it to him within hours with the contents.

The theft was attributed to thieves believed responsible for a series of
hotel robberies in the Tampa area.

The briefcase incident was seen as so serious that the Justice Department
conducted a criminal investigation. The inquiry ended in recent weeks with a
decision by the department's internal-security section not to prosecute, law
enforcement officials told the New York Times.

Jill Stillman, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, said department
officials would not comment on the matter. Requests to discuss the matter
with O'Neill were made to FBI officials in New York and Washington. In both
cases, they said he declined to comment on the case.

After the criminal inquiry, the FBI's internal-affairs unit began its own
investigation to determine whether O'Neill had violated FBI rules against
mishandling classified information.

FBI agents are prohibited from removing classified documents from their
offices without authorization. Violations are punishable by censure,
suspension or even dismissal, depending on their seriousness.
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Horror of crash coming to rest in Hamptons Series: THE CRASH OF TWA FLIGHT
800
St. Petersburg Times; St. Petersburg; Jul 21, 1996; BILL ADAIR;

[Illustration]
COLOR PHOTO, Associated Press; Caption: John O'Neill photographs debris on
Southampton Beach.
---
http://www.charity.com/familiesoftwa800/newslttr.html

THE FAMILIES OF TWA FLIGHT 800 ASSOC., INC.
NEWSLETTER NO. 1
July 30, 1996

[snip]

MEETING in Washington, D.C. on December 14th at the State Department. This
was organized by and for the Victims of Flight 800 group of Strasbourg,
France. They extended the invitation to include everyone interested. In
summary, we attended to find out what the NTSB and FBI would say about the
ongoing investigation. It was attended by approximately 35 family members
from Europe and 40 family members from the U.S. A comprehensive update on the
salvage and recovery operation was presented by Capt. Chip McCord of the
Navy.   [[  The NTSB and FBI were represented by Robert Frances, Peter Goelz,
John O'Neill.   ]]  They answered all questions, except those that would
jeopardize any litigation if this were a criminal case. The group invited us
to remain for discussion of issues concerning all. Briefly these items were:
financial needs, contacting TWA for monetary advances and disposition of
funds from donations, such as United Way; disposition of remains, both
identified and unidentified; release of Medical Examiner's autopsy reports;
memorial to be planned such as a tree or structure; disposition of personal
effects.
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Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Bill Howard wrote:
 she has usually had a smirk or a closed-mouth
smile...not once have I seen her look solemn, let alone sad or hurt or
even angry, about what has happened... 

I saw it. New York got what it wanted when the sheeple elected her.

And where has she been these past two weeks...except for a quick trip to
the WTC site with other congresscritters, she hasn't bothered to spend
time in Manhattan on the streets, either helping out or talking to
victims or families of victims or rescue workers or anyone.  For that
matter, neither has Schumer.  It's been Guliani in the starring role with
Pataki in a supporting role...

BTW, it's being announced this morning that Guliani's going to try to
overturn NY's term limits rules so that he can stay on as mayor...


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Re: [CTRL] Flight 93 Questions

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While a shootdown might not be unethical, passengers rising up to try to
take the plane back makes a more palatable story for John and Jane Q

I wonder if the decision of those passengers to take the plane back was
prompted more by the fact that they found out, or figured out, that they
would be shot down by our own military

It doesn't make sense that the plane went down in PA, unless it WAS shot
down, or there was a bomb on board that went off early; I rather doubt
the 'hijacker had a bomb', since none of the other hijackings had a bomb
involved, even a possibly pseudo bomb strapped to the body of one of the
hijackers.  On the other 3 planes, the cellphone and AirFone calls from
passengers and flight attendents only reported knives, nothing regarding
a bomb...so the report that one of the Flight 93 passengers reported one
of the hijackers had a bomb strapped to his body is an unexplained
anomoly...why was this flight the only one reporting a potential bomb on
board?

If the passengers indeed succeeded in taking back control of the plane,
one would have expected a person untrained in flying to at least attempt
to keep the plane in the air and on a steady course -- there would have
been no reason for a passenger at the controls to suddenly nosedive...

And it makes no sense for the hijackers to have done so, either...their
whole focus was to successfully fulfill their mission -- nosediving in
some Pennsylvania woods would have been meaningless, especially
considering the strong Islamic prohibitions against suicide (suicide
committed outside of an act of 'jihad')...in other words, dying while
plowing the plane into the Capitol building would have made the hijackers
'blessed' in the eyes of Allah, dying due to nosediving into the ground
some hundreds of miles from their goal would not...

While there was even the proverbial snowball's chance of them succeeding
in their mission, they would have continued in the attempt and NOT have
suddenly decided to nosedive the plane into the ground far from their
goal...



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Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

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On Sun, 23 Sep 2001, Saba wrote:
Remember when Charles Manson was on the loose this Lee Marvin was
playing all these tough guy roles and the one news report was Lee
Marvin is Scared but then Elizabeth Taylor and a lot of other high
profile stars had been on the hit list and again, we had religious nuts
and programmed killers.

Speaking of Liz, very strangely she came out of her self-imposed hideout
and made the rounds of NYC's emergency stations, actually helping out
with the rescue efforts.  Then she made an appearance on your friend
Rosie's show...I know you don't like Taylor, but she actually looked
pretty good...

I commend Liz for wanting to help...I just wonder WHY, considering how
much she guards her privacy, she suddenly decided to become a public
personna last week...


Meanwhle back at the camp - during the Clinton Regime it was laugh,
drink and be and make merry.old joke about Merry here, Monica stayed
and Merry went home.

I didn't like how, at yesterday's prayer service at Yankee Stadium, Oprah
Winfrey, the host of the service, made it a point towards the end to
thank Bill Clinton for showing up (but for some reason failed to mention
Hillary's presence next to him), but did not also introduce ex-mayors
Koch and Dinkens, who were also sitting on the dais...

And Clinton got almost a standing ovation...and all I could think of is
that we've been told that these acts of terrorism have been planned for
at least 3 years (I suspect that they in fact started to be planned right
after the 1993 WTC bombing failed to take the towers down, with only the
ACTIVE portion of the plan put into motion 2 to 3 years ago)...either
way, it all still occured during the Clinton administration, so people
should be asking why our intelligence community either failed miserably
or deliberately withheld knowledge of this pending event during the
Clintons' watch...


Probably thought he would be hit for a donation and said - hey times are
tough all over?

It's being reported that Julia Roberts is donating $2 million; your
friend Rosie is donating $1 million   ;-)


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[Note:  Just to put into perspective as to how tough it will be in
Afghanistan let me relate this.  On Saturday evening I was watching the
Discovery Channel which was doing a report on the civil war between the
Northern Alliance and the Taliban.  They showed one very gruesome picture
of the corpse of a man whose head had been skinned, when he was still
alive. There were several villages located right between the two front
lines, and the female reporter went with some Northern Alliance fighters
into these villages, and some of the atrocities committed by the Taliban
were too horrid to relate.  Nice folks these Taliban. - Tony]



The Daily Telegraph - Australia

OPENING SALVO
By NAOMI TOY and MICHAEL BEACH
24sep01

http://www.dailytelegraph.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,2919473%255E701,0
0.html


BRITISH SAS troops have fought a gun battle in Afghanistan with Taliban
fighters, marking the first confrontation in the war against terrorism.

A four-man SAS reconnaissance and intelligence team, known as a brick,
exchanged automatic gunfire with a group of Taliban fighters when they
unexpectedly encountered each other in the foothills of Kabul.

The gunfight is believed to have taken place on Friday but it is understood
the SAS infiltrated Afghanistan five days earlier, the first deployment in
the increasing military build-up in the region.

The SAS team entered Afghanistan from Tajikistan. The men's immediate task
was to set up a communications link with their UK headquarters and to make
an assessment of conditions on the ground in areas known to be dominated by
those protecting Osama bin Laden.

The SAS force in Afghanistan is understood to have already linked up with
forces of Jamiat-I-Islam, the military wing of the Northern Alliance which
provides the only tangible opposition in Afghanistan to the hardline
Taliban. Flotillas of warships continue to head towards the region, while
planes carrying troops and surveillance equipment have made secret night
landings in Afghanistan's neighbouring countries.

The US Defence Department also has called up a further 5000 reservists, as
B-52 bombers and other fighters were deployed from Barksdale Air Force Base
in Louisiana.

But the Taliban yesterday claimed to have shot down an unmanned spy plane,
and a helicopter belonging to Afghanistan's Northern Alliance, using
Russian-made anti-aircraft weapons.

Afghanistan's ambassador to Pakistan, Abdul Salam Zaeef, said soldiers had
shot down the plane taking pictures over Tashgurgan Pass in Samangan
province, northwest of Kabul.

The Taliban has refused the United States's demand to hand over Osama bin
Laden, who is suspected of orchestrating the devastating terrorist attacks
on September 11. It has promised a holy war if it is attacked.

Reports also emerged that the British intelligence arm MI6 had pinpointed
bin Laden's location, still in Afghanistan.

UK papers said the spy group traced bin Laden - leader of the terrorist
organisation al-Qaeda - to a desolate region close to the town of Jalalabad
on the country's north-east border with Pakistan.

Prime Minister Tony Blair's spokesman said: We know he is there, put it
that way. When asked if bin Laden's exact whereabouts had been identified,
he insisted: We know where he is.

America is now firmly on a war footing with the military build-up
intensifying following the arrival of the 82nd Airborne and 101st Air
Assault Divisions at bases at Quetta and Peshawar in Pakistan, near the
Afghan border.

Of the more than 200 warplanes flowing to the Gulf region, 75 are on the
aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, which sailed from Virginia towards
the Mediterranean last week. It joins the carriers USS Carl Vinson and USS
Enterprise, now stationed in or near the Gulf with 75 warplanes each.

The three ships are accompanied by battle groups totalling more than 20
warships, including cruisers and submarines capable of firing accurate
cruise missiles with ranges of up to 1600km.

The rebel Northern Alliance, which already may be receiving assistance from
special forces, claimed to have killed 50 Taliban fighters at the weekend.



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PREAMBLE TO THE BILL OF RIGHTS CONGRESS
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Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

[thew]

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NO

I hope people dont let one week of a good showing make then forget 8 years
of devastation he laid on this city



and as long as I'm on this thread - this was not Clinton's fault - indeed
during Clinton's time there were several large terrorist acts averted
quietly, most notably the stopping of a man who was crossing into Washington
state from Canada with explosives and plans to hit LA and/or Seattle during
the millennium celebrations.


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 BTW, it's being announced this morning that Guliani's going to try to
 overturn NY's term limits rules so that he can stay on as mayor...

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Re: [CTRL] Comments and questions

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--- Xxx Yyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 also tell me why AOL would be trying to access my computer 14 times
 in such a
 secretive way in the past 4-1/2 hours?  I did contact AOL but was
 just
 shifted from person to person.  There probably is a very benign
 explanation
 for all of this, but I don't know where to look.

It's because you have AOHell as an ISP. My former ISP, Net Access, used
to try to access my computer at least once a week, they said it was
most likely system testing. With Zone Alarm, when you are using the
computer, if you are online, right click on the taskbar icon and select
Engage Internet lock. You can program your browser to bypass the lock
so you can access the Internet. When you are working offline, right
click and select Stop All Internet Activity. This way you won't get
nearly as many attempts to access your computer. You should have it on
high security. Left click the icon, click the Security tab, and set
both settings to HIGH. That will keep your computer in Stealth mode so
that hackers won't see it. Under the Lock tab, you can allow your
Pass-Locked programs to access the Internet.

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Re: [CTRL] Flight 93 Questions

[thew]

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the story is that from cell phone conversations they knew about the WTC
crashes, and decided it would be better to risk going down, than to be a
bomb killing innocents

Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate
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 Subject: Re: [CTRL] Flight 93 Questions

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 While a shootdown might not be unethical, passengers rising up to try to
 take the plane back makes a more palatable story for John and Jane Q

 I wonder if the decision of those passengers to take the plane back was
 prompted more by the fact that they found out, or figured out, that they
 would be shot down by our own military

 It doesn't make sense that the plane went down in PA, unless it WAS shot
 down, or there was a bomb on board that went off early; I rather doubt
 the 'hijacker had a bomb', since none of the other hijackings had a bomb
 involved, even a possibly pseudo bomb strapped to the body of one of the
 hijackers.  On the other 3 planes, the cellphone and AirFone calls from
 passengers and flight attendents only reported knives, nothing regarding
 a bomb...so the report that one of the Flight 93 passengers reported one
 of the hijackers had a bomb strapped to his body is an unexplained
 anomoly...why was this flight the only one reporting a potential bomb on
 board?

 If the passengers indeed succeeded in taking back control of the plane,
 one would have expected a person untrained in flying to at least attempt
 to keep the plane in the air and on a steady course -- there would have
 been no reason for a passenger at the controls to suddenly nosedive...

 And it makes no sense for the hijackers to have done so, either...their
 whole focus was to successfully fulfill their mission -- nosediving in
 some Pennsylvania woods would have been meaningless, especially
 considering the strong Islamic prohibitions against suicide (suicide
 committed outside of an act of 'jihad')...in other words, dying while
 plowing the plane into the Capitol building would have made the hijackers
 'blessed' in the eyes of Allah, dying due to nosediving into the ground
 some hundreds of miles from their goal would not...

 While there was even the proverbial snowball's chance of them succeeding
 in their mission, they would have continued in the attempt and NOT have
 suddenly decided to nosedive the plane into the ground far from their
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Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

[Tenorlove]

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 And please, no more Stevie Wonder -
 anything but that and that We Are the World shit.

That was Lionel Ritchie, not Stevie Wonder.



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Re: [CTRL] bible codes

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 And Besame Koola Royale.  (somebody check spelling on that one)

Bese mi culo real.


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[CTRL] FC: Feds ground crop dusters amidst worry about biochem attacks (fwd)

[Yardbird]

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14087-2001Sep23.html
warning
s about potential chemical or biological weapons attacks from crop-dusters

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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 16:36:34 -0700
From: Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: TIME.com: Nation -- TIME Exclusive: Cropduster Manual
   Discovered in Suspected Terrorist Hideout
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on Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 08:01:10AM -0500, Jim Choate ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
  http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,175951,00.html

A GA (general aviation) pilot friend has been bitching endlessly about
various FAA regulation restrictions imposed in the wake of 9/11.  I've
suggested a reality check.  rec.aviation.piloting makes for some
interesting reading, not without a few blowhards (not that we'd know
what these are).

http://www.aopa.org/ tracks NOTAMs (notices to airmen).  Among the first
restrictions imposed, and still somewhat in force, are restrictions on
agricultural flights.   These are far less organized than might be
expected, and citations by those unfamiliar with the NOTAM format are
hard to come by.

However, the page currently lists the following NOTAM:

 FAA bans Part 137 agricultural operations
 09/23/01 4:39:10 PM, ET - FAA banned Part 137 agricultural
 (cropduster) operations [link] once again on Sunday. The ban
 includes all aircraft capable or equipped for agricultural
 operations, whether they are flying under Part 137 or any other FAR
 (for example, Part 91). The ban remains in effect until 12:05 a.m.
 local time Sept. 24.  AOPA again reminds pilots that they must check
 all notams immediately prior to starting any flight.

The link points to:

 http://38.200.9.137/010915tfr.html#0398

 !FDC 1/0398 FDC ATTENTION ALL OPERATORS - SPECIAL NOTICE. EFFECTIVE
 IMMEDIATELY UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR 91.139
 (EMERGENCY AIR TRAFFIC RULES), FOR REASONS OF NATIONAL SECURITY ALL
 PAR 137 (AGRICULTUREAL/CROPDUSTER) OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED ON
 SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 23,2001, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND UNTIL 12:05 A.M.
 LOCAL SEPTEMBER 24,2001, IN EACH TIME ZONE. IN ADDITION, NO AIRCRAFT
 CAPABLE OF OR EQUIPPED FOR AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS MAY OPERATE UNDER
 ANY OTHER F.A.R.  PART CERTIFICATION DURING THIS TIMEFRAME. THE ONLY
 EXCEPTION IS FOR PART 137 FIRE FIGHTING TANKERS FLYING UNDER PUBLIC
 USE AND EMERGENCY AUTHORIZATION FOR FIRE FIGHTING PURPOSES. THIS
 NOTAM APPLIES TO THE 48 CONTIGUOUS STATES IN U.S.DOMESTIC AIRSPACE.

(Yes, the FAA, in its infinite wisdom, uses highly unreadable AOL CAPS
TO ANNOUNCE CRITICAL MESSAGES).

I've also heard rumors that cropdusters are being told to *disable*
their aircraft or equipment, though I cannot substantiate this.

Peace.

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Re: [CTRL] Head of WTC Security Former FBI Counterterrorism Specialist

[RevCOAL]

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While with the FBI, O'Neill headed investigations of the deadly attacks on
U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 and the bombing last year of the
USS Cole in Yemen. That attack, also a suicide bombing, is thought to be tied
to Osama bin Laden, whom top U.S. officials have tied to last week's attacks.

As a security expert in the FBI's New York office, O'Neill was also heavily
involved in the investigation of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

Anyone else see this as a tad coincidental...?


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Re: [CTRL] We've Found God Again!

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And we have found God Again...This simple quotation may well pave the
way to permit Americans to freely exercise their God-given right - and
constitutional right - to pray whenever, or wherever, they wish.

Again I ask:  Whose God?  Each individual has the right to pray to
whatever god they choose to pray to -- but when you start talking about
praying in public schools, a situation in which children are forced to
attend, whose God are prayers offered up to?

Remember that Osama bin Laden also feels that he has God on his side...


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Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

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In a message dated 9/24/01 5:57:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 this was not Clinton's fault 

Nothing was ever Klinton's fault. It was always some underling who went to
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[CTRL] BROTHER'S KEEPER

[Kris Millegan]

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from:
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BROTHER'S KEEPER
One of Osama bin Laden's many siblings helped found Texas oil business
with President
By PETER ALLEN, DAILY MAIL

LONDON -- Osama bin Laden's older brother Salem, once head of the
wealthy Saudi family clan, was a former business associate of U.S.
President George W. Bush.

Salem bin Laden, one of 57 children their father Mohammed sired with his
12 wives, and Bush were founders of the Arbusto Energy oil company in
Texas.

He died in a plane crash -- like his father -- but not before the
Arbusto Energy Oil Company, founded in 1978, had become hugely
successful.

As the world knows, to its cost, Osama went on to embrace Islamic
fundamentalism and 30 years later is the world's most wanted man. He is
prime suspect in the murder of nearly 7,000 in the worst ever terrorist
atrocities in the U.S.

INHERITED MILLIONS

The bin Laden brothers inherited a fortune from their construction
magnate father. He left millions to each of his many, many children
after dying in an air crash in 1968.

Salem put a large part of his money into business ventures, including
Arbusto Energy. At the time, Bush was not long out of Harvard Business
School.

Salem watched it grow until his death in a ultra-light plane crash in
Texas in As he built his business empire, Salem Bin Laden had an
intriguing relationship with the president-to-be.

In 1978, he appointed James Bath, a close friend of Bush who served with
him in the Air National Guard, as his representative in Houston, Texas.
It was in that year that Bath invested $70,000 in Bush's company,
Arbusto. It was never revealed whether he was investing his own money or
Salem's.

The same year, Bath bought Houston Gulf Airport on behalf of the Saudi
Arabian multi-millionaire.

Three years ago, Bush said the $70,000 investment in Arbusto was the
only financial dealing he had with Bath.

Last night, a White House spokesman was unavailable for comment.
Salem was married to Caroline Carey, now 35, a Briton half his age who
has never spoken about her brother-in-law Osama.

He was disowned by the rest of his family in 1991, when he was expelled
from Saudi Arabia for his anti-government activities.

A family friend said: Salem was the head of the bin Laden family as the
oldest of all the brothers and sisters. He was a man with a powerful
presence.

Yesterday, FBI agents swooped on a Boston suburb where around 20 of the
wealthy relatives of bin Laden live. They questioned them at a
condominium complex in Charlestown.

Bin Laden's younger brother Mohammed, said to have moved back to Saudi
Arabia with his wife and children several years ago, owns a 10-bedroom
mansion in nearby Wayland.

Another younger brother, Abdullah, is a 1994 graduate of Harvard Law
School. The family has given it $5 million in endowments to research
Islamic law.

The FBI in Boston has long been aware of bin Laden's extended family and
began monitoring their activities after the 1998 terrorist bombings of
U.S. embassies in Africa.

The bin Ladens still run one of the biggest construction companies in
the world.
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[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Oracle's Larry Ellison urges national ID card for Americans

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http://www.drudgereport.com/id.htm
A proposal for the creation of a national ID card was presented to
President Bush in recent days, top government sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/svfront/ellsn092301.htm
``We need a national ID card with our photograph and thumbprint digitized
and embedded in the ID card,'' Ellison said in an interview Friday night
on the evening news of KPIX-TV in San Francisco.
``We need a database behind that, so when you're walking into an airport
and you say that you are Larry Ellison, you take that card and put it in a
reader and you put your thumb down and that system confirms that this is
Larry Ellison,'' he said. [...]
``We're quite willing to provide the software for this absolutely free,''
he said.



Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:49:33 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Declan McCullagh)
From: David Theroux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ellison and ID cards

Dear Declan,

According to Drudge, Larry Ellison is now offering to donate the technology
to create a national ID card.  What else would we expect from a firm that
was created by the CIA:

http://beta.kpix.com/news/scripts/fri5pm.htm#77tz:_Ellison

Best regards,

David

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Says one person posting on cypherpunks:
As the D.C. types would say, that has no traction.

Interesting that the cyberliberties crowd was so eager to launch a
Boycott Adobe campaign because of their sin that they attempted to
defend their property rights, but no one is launching a Boycott Oracle
campaign over Larry Ellison's fascist support for mandatory
citiizen-unit ID cards.

As an Oracle investor for many years, I am ashamed that the President
and CEO of a company I have long-owned is adopting the fascist and
statist policies reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

Ellison wishes Oracle to play the role of Krupp. Ve vill volunteer our
software, ja, in ze struggle.

I would say he needs censored, and soon, but that might get me in
trouble with the Securitat.




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Re: [CTRL] John P. O'Neill/ Head of WTC Security Former FBI Counterterrorism

[RevCOAL]

-Caveat Lector-

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Samantha L. wrote:
  This report says O'Neill took the job earlier this year.  CNN's version
quotes the NYC Police Commissioner as saying September 11th would have been
O'Neill's first or second day at the job.  Another version says O'Neill was
hired for the job in August.

Considering that these attacks had to have been planned for YEARS, even
if O'Neill 'took the job earlier this year', the timing seems a tad
coincidental for someone with such an extensive background in bin Laden
alleged terrorist events to take on the job of WTC security...

I also keep remembering reports from people who escaped the WTC regarding
security STOPPING people evacuating the towers after they were hit -- in
some cases people reported security coming over the building intercom
within a few minutes, telling everyone to return to their offices; in at
least 2 other separate reports, survivors reported a person actually came
and told them NOT to evacuate, and in one case they were herded from the
stairwell they were walking down to an empty room on the 14th floor that
'just happened' to have a TV on showing news reports of the attacks...

These people only survived because they IGNORED the advice/order to
remain where they were, and they decided to continue evacuating...

Meanwhile, according to Rudolph Guliani's account, he was attempting to
set up a base whereby he could communicate to people in the WTC that they
should evacuate immediately...and yet for some reason the WTC security
was instructing the WTC to do just the opposite...


  Assuming all security personnel within the WTC complex are in radio
contact, would the decision to command employees (over the loudspeaker
system) to remain at their desks have come from the head of security?

I've worked as a security guard in the past, so I have some knowledge in
this matter.

I assume that the rank-and-file security force at the WTC was probably
private security; the WTC used to be owned by the Port Authority of NYC,
so security was presumably under their office; but the building was
recently sold to a private firm, so presumably security also became a
private affair at that time...

In either case, there would have (or should have) been a standard
emergencies procedures manual for the security staff, and especially
after the 1993 attack there should have been procedures established for a
bomb/explosion, definitely procedures for a major fire.

Keep in mind that at that time of day especially, a 'security guard' is
little more than a receptionist with a uniform; keep in mind that these
men and women are paid little more than minimum wage and get minimal, if
any, training (presuming it was a private security company handling
security at the WTC; even if the guards were direct employees of WTC,
their pay and training wouldn't have been all that different from
contract private security firms').

They probably didn't even have radios (in my experience it was a very
rare occurance to have radios assigned, and when they were they usually
had dead batteries), but instead the guards were expected to call in
reports via a standard phone at their station (I once was assigned to a
post where there was neither phone nor radio, and no explanation as to
what I was expected to do if there was an 'incident') -- phones which
probably didn't work after the planes hit...so any guard on the lower
levels of Tower One probably had a problem calling in the incident at
approx. 8:48 when the first plane hit...it would have been up to each
guard to make a judgement call as to what to do.  This would have been
especially true in the second tower before it was hit -- over there,
there was almost 15 minutes elapsed before the 2nd plane hit...time where
many many people could have been evacuated had it been commenced
immediately...

Quite frankly, based on my own experience, most of the guards probably
decided to save their own butts.  If I'd been working as a guard there
(especially in the 2nd tower), I would have stayed at my post as long as
possible, but I definitely would have instructed the occupants on the
floors I was responsible for to evacuate as soon as possible -- my
individual judgement call would have been that it would have been better
to get everyone out and then discover it was possibly a relatively minor
incident, rather than keep people inside and then discover it was too
late to get out...

But that would have been my individual call...

The only way I would have gotten on an intercom and told people to return
to their offices, or stand in a stairwell and physically stop people from
evacuating, would have been if I had been specifically instructed to do
so...and that decision would have to have come from higher up.

Quite frankly, I would have made the intercom announcement under protest,
and under no circumstances would I have agreed to STOP people already in
the process of evacuating the building.  In fact, I would have done the
exact opposite, 

Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

[thew]

-Caveat Lector-

no
Monica was his stupidity. But it was a minor stupidity, not worthy of the
bullshit conservatives forced America to go through on its account.

Lets compare a blowjob with another consenting adult to say - firing ones AG
to avoid prosecution, or circumventing congressional orders by trading in
guns and drugs to illegal supply arms to central American rebels, or making
deals with extremist Islamic terrorists to keep Americans hostage, just to
win an election.

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your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed
you. May your chains set lightly upon you.
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 In a message dated 9/24/01 5:57:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  this was not Clinton's fault 

 Nothing was ever Klinton's fault. It was always some underling who went to
 jail, or had to resign to cover Klinton's ass. Even Monicagate wasn't his
 fault, it was Monica's.

 BHoward

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[CTRL] Precious Metals Buried Under Debris

[William Shannon]

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/22/rec.buried.treasure/index.html




Precious metals buried under debris

NEW YORK (CNN) --Buried somewhere under the World Trade Center rubble lies a fortune.

Tons of gold and silver had been stored in underground vaults beneath 4 World Trade Center when the building collapsed September 11.

According to the New York Mercantile Exchange, Scotia Mocatta -- the bullion and metals division of Bank of Nova Scotia -- was storing 379,036 ounces of gold and 29,942,619 ounces of silver in vaults under 4 World Trade Center. It is owned by people or companies who bought the metals as investments.

That's 11.8 tons of gold and 935.7 tons of silver.

Jeffrey Christian, a precious metals consultant for the CPM Group in New York, predicted to CNN that the absence of the gold will have no impact on the market.
Because silver supplies are tighter, its absence could have a limited impact, he said.
In a week in which stocks have plummeted to three-year lows, investing in the metals would have been a smart move.

When the vaults were locked September 10, the gold was worth $272.30 per ounce, or $103,211,503.

By September 21, its value -- wherever it is -- had soared 7.6 percent to $292.90 per ounce, or $111,019,644.

And the silver rose 10.3 percent in value from $4.19 per ounce, or $129,063,811, to $4.62 per ounce, or $142,114,861.

The price of silver rose faster than the price of gold because silver supplies are tighter, Christian said.

Larry Scott, head of Scotia Mocatta in Toronto, said he could not discuss the location of precious metals held by the company.

"Operations are obviously not normal, but we have no concerns at this time, either security or financial," he said.

Security has been tight in the area since the attacks, provided by hundreds of FBI agents and police round the clock.


    

[CTRL] Jeb Signed 2 Year Emergency Order 4 Days Before Attack

[William Shannon]

http://www.psyopnews.com/



WHO KNEW?:
Jeb Bush signed Florida
TWO YEAR emergency order
4 days BEFORE attack
24th September, 2001
A PsyOpNews.com Alert

Seems like everybody and his uncle knew about this attack in advance. Inside traders and Governments and even good ol' Jeb Bush. He took over Florida 4 days before the attack. Bye, bye Florida. Hello General Jeb.

Now, how many States does that leave us in the Union?

Friday, September 7,
Florida Governor "Jeb" Bush,
Executive Order No. 01-261.
"I hereby [..] order members of the Florida National Guard into active service, [..] to support law-enforcement personnel and emergency-management personnel in the event of civil disturbances [..] and to [..] support to law-enforcement personnel[..]. This Executive Order shall remain in full force and effect until the earlier of its revocation or June 30, 2003." 

On November 3, 1998 one of thirteen revisions to the Constitution of the State of Florida was:

"REVISION 13" CLARIFICATIONS:
This specific Revision: "[..] allows prison sentences in court-martial actions[..]; allows direct appeal of courts-martial to specified state court and advisory opinions from federal military courts; [..].

The average Floridian should be asking 'What do court-martial actions and the opinions of federal military courts have to do with us?'. The answer is everything.

Look closely at how this revision has now revised ARTICLE I, BILL OF RIGHTS, SECTION 18 in the Florida 1968 Constitution:

"SECTION 18. Administrative penalties.
--No administrative agency, except the Department of Military Affairs in an appropriately convened court-martial action as provided by law, shall impose a sentence of imprisonment, nor shall it impose any other penalty except as provided by law."

This simply means that the military within Florida may imprison anyone - civilian and military alike - in a court-martial action, which is not necessarily a proper 'hearing'.

Because now all State of Florida "Judicial" Courts are actually Military Court-Martial Courts.

This is a "catch-all" that allows any State Administrator, to impose a prison sentence for violation of any Executive Orders (EO's) from the Governor, who is also the Military Commander of the State of Florida.

NOTE FROM HISTORY: In May 1865, after the Union of southern Confederate States had officially surrendered, the nation of Florida and its capitol was fully occupied by Federal Union troops whose military commander then suspended all civil law and declared martial law to be in full force and effect. 

SEE ALSO: THOSE LAW CHANGES IN DETAIL
SEE ALSO: EXEC ORDERS 01-261 and 01-262
SEE ALSO: RENSE.COM ARTICLE

[CTRL] Bush's Plumbers Unit

[William Shannon]

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/whisphome.htm



WHISPER OF THE DAY


A new kind of plumbers' unit

The White House "plumbers' unit" has been revived, but not to crack the safes of political enemies as it did for Richard Nixon. The job of President Bush's team is to plug leaks–the "loose lips sink ships" kind. 

Insiders say, for example, that even Bush's daily schedule is now top secret. It used to be handed out like candy to reporters the night before, but now Bush aides act as if they don't know what the boss is up to. Our tipsters say it's driven by security concerns for the prez and is part of a larger Secret Service assassination contingency plan activated by the September 11 terror attacks. 

Aides are told not to make light of the rule. "A leak with regard to the president's schedule is tantamount to treason," is how one aide explained the rules. The leak patrol has also turned its attention to Capitol Hill, which is receiving far less sensitive intelligence thanks to Sen. Orrin Hatch's blabbing of sensitive info he thought was unclassified. Proof: Bush didn't alert some Pennsylvania lawmakers that their governor would head a homeland security office.

[CTRL] Fwd: National Strategy Forum - John P. O'Neill

[Saba]

A few words by O'Neill - written in 1997






http://www.nationalstrategy.com/speakers/oneill.html

Re: [CTRL] bible codes

[Saba]

-Caveat Lector-

Thank youyou are the second to give me a different spelling -

Now back to the drawing board which is mass confusion at this point in
time.

O'Saba

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[CTRL] Fwd: Gideon’s* Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, reviewed by Richard H. Curtiss, April/May 1999

[Saba]

REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY




Interesting item where Netanyahu threatened to set Washington
afireall this fire.

Netanyahu's son did not want to be drafted into Israeli army - so now,
this creep was on the air telling us how we had to do this and do that
for they finally have us in war...

You know this is all about Gideon - Mossad Special Operations - murder,
inc. an contract on America part of Zionist goal.

Orde Winston went to war with his bible opened to story of Gideon and
hey, if this McVeigh was not in somebody's special services - well he
left a few messages in the Gideon placed bible.

Moles, FBI selling maps of tunnels - who do you trust?   Not
Netenyahu.with his cowardly son or is he a brave son, who does not
want to go to war.

The first attempt has been made on the life of our President...$$

Saba

Book Review
Gideon's* Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad
By Gordon Thomas, St. Martin's Press, New York, 1999, 354 pp. List:
$25.95; AET: $17.95.

Reviewed by Richard H. Curtiss


Binyamin Netanyahu arrived in Washington, DC on Jan. 19, 1998 for what
was expected to be a showdown with U.S. President Bill Clinton over the
Israeli prime minister's refusal to implement land-for-peace provisions
of the Oslo accords. Netanyahu had vowed to set Washington on fire. To
emphasize his determination to confront Clinton, he proceeded directly
from the airport to a downtown rally with a bitter Clinton foe, American
Zionist televangelist Jerry Falwell, who distributes a videotape
accusing Clinton of complicity in drug-related murders.

The next morning, Jan. 20, The Washington Post reported that President
Clinton was having a romance with a White House intern. Later in the
day, when Netanyahu met with Clinton in the White House, nothing much
happened.

Nor did much happen Jan. 22, when Clinton met with Yasser Arafat, except
that nearly all the questions in the press conference that followed
dealt only with the White House sex scandal.

One reason the U.S.-Israel confrontation was so abruptly aborted,
according to Welsh journalist Gordon Thomas, author of Gideon's Spies:
The Secret History of the Mossad, is that a year earlier two technicians
from Mossad, Israel's external intelligence agency, had traveled from
Tel Aviv to Washington to tap the telephone lines of Clinton's
then-23-year-old girlfriend, Monica Lewinsky. Their efforts had produced
steamy tape recordings of what Lewinsky called telephone sex.

Also, although Thomas, the 66-year-old author of 30 previous nonfiction
books and an additional seven works of fiction, doesn't mention it in
his book, if the Mossad bugged the telephone in Lewinsky's Watergate
apartment to record her conversations with the president, it would also
have known about Linda Tripp, who spent even more hours talking with
Lewinsky than did Clinton, and perhaps other Monica confidants unknown
even to special prosecutor Kenneth Starr.

That Clinton soon became aware of the Mossad tapes was made clear,
Thomas points out, by Clinton's March 1997 warning to Lewinsky that he
believed a foreign embassy was taping their conversations.

In any case, there was no Clinton-Netanyahu confrontation in January
1998 because, only hours before Netanyahu arrived at the White House,
Clinton's dalliance was made public in The Washington Post; by writer
Michael Isikoff of its sister publication, Newsweek; and in an on-line
gossip site called the Drudge Report. It has never been made clear how
Mossad learned of the affair, who tipped off reporters Isikoff and,
later, Matt Drudge, or why everyone decided to go public with the
revelation that America's president had a mistress not much older than
his daughter just as Netanyahu arrived to set Washington on fire. More
than a year later, the U.S. national capital is still smoldering.

According to author Thomas, Mossad's Clinton tapes also directly
affected another top-priority FBI investigation that may have roots
going all the way back to the administration of President Ronald Reagan,
when U.S. Naval counterintelligence specialist Jonathan Jay Pollard was
given a life sentence for stealing thousands of pages of classified
documents on behalf of Israel.

The stolen material relating to codes, satellite surveillance, and
intelligence sources and methods was so highly classified that the U.S.
government declined to describe it even to the sentencing judge.

According to Thomas, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir passed some
of Pollard's stolen material pertaining to U.S. intelligence-gathering
resources and capabilities to the former Soviet Union as a gesture of
goodwill. Although Thomas doesn't say it, the Soviets reciprocated by
allowing tens of thousands of Soviet Jews to emigrate to Israel. Thomas
reports also that Shamir also was able to turn over enough of the
Pollard material to the former apartheid government of South Africa to
enable it to cripple U.S. intelligence gathering in Africa and to hide
joint Israeli-South African 

Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

[Bill Howard]

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In a message dated 9/24/01 7:56:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 no
Monica was his stupidity. But it was a minor stupidity, not worthy of the
bullshit conservatives forced America to go through on its account.

Yes, you are correct, Monicagate was stupidity on his part. But not minor
stupidty. Lets not rehash the past Presidents who have had affairs while in
office, we know it happened. Its just that they were discreet about it.
People don't complain very often about things they don't know about.

Bubba wasn't discreet, Bubba tried to trash Monica's reputation, and at the
end, she was afraid he was going to have her killed. And if that wasn't
enough, he lied to the American people about his affair, and then lied to his
lawyer, and lied under oath about it. Yes, this is stupid, but not a minor
stupid.

Lets compare a blowjob with another consenting adult to say - firing ones AG
to avoid prosecution, or circumventing congressional orders by trading in
guns and drugs to illegal supply arms to central American rebels, or making
deals with extremist Islamic terrorists to keep Americans hostage, just to
win an election. 

I'll take a blowjob anyday to firing an AG.  No comparison. And we know drugs
for guns thing happened, and that now is a dead issue, unlike Monicagate
which just won't go away. I think its just something that is used to keep our
attention from more important things.

Klinton did a wonderful job with the islamic terrorists. He allowed Bin Laden
to move into Bosina and Albania and set up his terrorist/drug headquarters
there. It will be years before that mess is cleaned up.

BHoward
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[CTRL] ID

[Euphorian]

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@ http://www.drudgereport.com/id.htm

Bush Contemplates National ID Card

Like this one.

@ http://www.strike-the-root.com/id_card.html

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[CTRL] Fwd: Gideon’s* Spies: The Secret History of the Mossad, reviewed by Richard H. Curtiss, April/May 1999

[Saba]

I might add we have just witnessed the first attempt on the life of our
President.  Concern over the lost codes?

September, October, November - they got JFK in November - somebody using
masonic symbolism?   Another renegade lodge?

Imagine - what could have happened that day...and then consider the
face we do not see.

From what I see this Mossad has done more harm to this country,
committed more murders - as this one man once told me, whom I admire
greatly - the most dangerous snake, is the one in the grass.  The one
you cannot see.

Saba




http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0499/9904122b.html

[CTRL] War Whoops

[Euphorian]

-Caveat Lector-

From
http://www.thetexasmercury.com/articles/copold/DC20010923.html

}}}Begin
We
Americans,
We Unhappy Americans:
Bush's War Whoop Dissected Derek Copold
Tongue
freshly darkened by presidential bootblack, David Gergen burbled
on about
George W. Bush’s Thursday night speech. Waxing Shakespearean, the
invertebrated Gergen told his interviewer that our Prince Hal of
Andover
fame had grown up to become a Henry V. As Henry V’s successful
career eventually
spawned St. Joan of Arc’s far more successful martyrdom which led
to
England’s bloody eviction from the European continent, I didn’t
find
this analogy as heartening as Mr. Gergen apparently did. But then
again, I
would expect no less from him. He’s the sort of man more fascinated with
politicians than he is with parties or even the nation. That nation, 
unfortunately, is more in agreement
with Gergen than myself. With the grief and anger caused by September 11th’s
events, this comes as no surprise. However, despite my sharing in the nation’s 
outrage, I was not encouraged by the president’s address; indeed, I was rather 
frightened by it and the uncritical reaction it has met. Un
surprisingly, Bush declared war on the Taliban,
but he did so in his own unique way. Employing his uniquely ingratiating 
‘compassion’,
our dear leader distinguished between Afghanistan’s ruling faction and its
people, The United States respects the people of Afghanistan… Sure we do. And we 
no of now better way to
express this deep respect for other peoples than to give them a bit
carpet-bombing and impose economic sanctions, which manage to kill almost
everyone except terrorists. Once he had finished crooning his soothing song
of respect, informing the American populace that he respected Islam, whose
teachings are good and peaceful, the president then listed a set
of demands. The Taliban, unsurprisingly, rejected them. In fact, they were
designed for that very purpose, and now we are committed to fighting a war
in Central Asia. I need not detail the difficulties involved with
a war in Afghanistan. It is a remote and barren land. Its mountains, the
Hindu Kush (Killer of Hindus), defeated both the British Empire and the
Soviet Union when both were at their pinnacle of power. We also have the
added disadvantage of being forced to access Afghanistan through unreliable
allies, such as Pakistan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Indeed, the peoples of
these countries probably hate us as much, if not more, than they do the
Taliban. Afghanistan will be a very tough nut to crack. Yet I think we may be able 
to break it. To our
advantage, there is a native force in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban, the
Northern Alliance. Made up of Uzbeks, Tajiks and other ethnicities, they
have no love for the Pashtuns running Kabul. After years of neglect, much of
the Taliban’s more advanced weaponry, like the Stinger missiles we gave
them in the 80s, have deteriorated. Given a well thought out plan and
intelligent use of the Northern Alliance, we might just be able to displace
our new enemies, and maybe even capture Osama bin Laden. But then what? This is 
where the President’s
speech takes a dangerous turn into a vague fog of abstraction. Bush isn’t
satisfied with just Afghanistan, and he says so: Our enemy is a
radical network of terrorists and every government that supports them. And he’s 
serious. You know this because he uses
the ‘n’ word. No, not that one, the other one. The terrorists, Bush
tells us, …follow in the path of fascism, Nazism and
totalitarianism. I’m glad he mentioned fascism and
totalitarianism; we wouldn’t want to confuse them with Nazism. In pursuit of 
this glorious (dare I say it)
crusade, our dear leader declares, Every nation in every region now
has a decision to make: Either you are with us or you are with the
terrorists… From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or
support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile
regime. Thus begins the great War on
Terrorism. We are now engaged in a death struggle with a noun. But before we 
attack the offending verbiage, let’s
ask ourselves a few questions. What does our dear leader mean by terrorism?
Is it just the Middle Eastern flavor, or are we going to include the IRA? If
so, Massachusetts could be considered a hostile regime. Personally, I wouldn’t 
mind seeing Hyannis Port bombed, especially when Prince Ted is in town, but
others might object. Are we going to include narco-terrorists?
If so, we’d better send the armored divisions south to the border, muy
pronto. Mexico is infested with narcos, and the government there
protects them, which is why it keeps failing its official Drug War
certification. Should we lift the executive order forbidding assassination
   

[CTRL] Fwd: Fw: ABOUT THE BLACK BOXES: How Stupid Do THEY Think WE are?

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From: CCW [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sunday, September 23, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: ABOUT THE BLACK BOXES: How Stupid Do THEY Think WE are?


This is an excellent expression of reason. It is well thought out, a
learned analysis of the subject, seen yet by yours truly. The gentleman also
expresses precisely the irrationality of the American public at large,
concerning 9/11/01 and its aftermath. For me, this has been by far the most
frightening phenomenon--the horrible, eerie, lack of reason. By far the
majority, are supercharged, highly emotional about everything concerning the
event. They are feeling their thoughts, as it were, not thinking them out
independently or rationally or digging any deeper than the screen of the
electronic, one-eyed bogey box. They have taken totally to heart just about
everything they've been spoon-fed by the talking heads of TV and government
officials and every narrow minded radio host towing the consensus line. This
is scary, very very scary. It sends chills up my spine and my hands
literally sweat from dread, as I listen to my neighbors, people in the
market place, on radio, express their rage, their need for revenge, as they
express their utmost confidence in their government and its guidance, ANY
guidance. All the while when I question them, they can not name with
certainty their enemy. Many go so far to say they don't care. Are these
people civilized or are they more like barbarians? Think about that fine
line. They all want to bomb someone, some nation, anyone. Rand corporation
and its sister the Tavistock Institute of behavioral science, set out to
create biological automatons of populations. Good grief, they have
succeeded. Right NOW, this frightful phenomenon, poses the greatest, MOST
SERIOUS, danger, to the nation and to the world. Think how Hitler got those
millions of dazed, hypnotized, to follow his course so placidly, stupidly.
Folks, this is no different. My God, this is no different. And they are
ready to give up their basic liberties, what's left of them, to assuage
their red hot emotions. I don't know about you, but I ain't sittin' still
for this, as long as there is one tiny bit of breath left in my body. See
the results in the following article.

ac

   How stupid do they think we are?

http://www.rense.com/general13/strangecase.htmhttp://www.rense.com/general
13/strangecase.htm

Strange Case Of The Black Box
And The Indestructible Passport
By Sam Yousef
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
9-21-1

The Black Box and the Indestructible Passport

All four Black Boxes were supposedly destroyed and rendered
unusable in spite of the fact that they are designed specifically for
plane
crashes which result in insurmountable conditions...yet one of the
hijackers passports supposedly survives fire and heat of over 1,000 degrees
Fahrenheit and is found in perfect shape in the rubble around the WTC
towers? What kind of idiots does the FBI take us for?

How indestructible are the so-called Black Boxes?

Each airplane is equipped with a Flight Data Recorder and a Cockpit
Voice Recorded. The term Black Box is used for these pieces of
equipment. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) web site gives
valuable information regarding these devices.

Regarding the Cockpit Voice Recorder it says:

The CVR records the flight crew's voices, as well as other sounds
inside the cockpit. The recorder's cockpit area microphone is usually
located on the overhead instrument panel between the two pilots. Sounds
of interest to an investigator could be engine noise, stall warnings,
landing
gear extension and retraction, and other clicks and pops. From these
sounds, parameters such as engine rpm, system failures, speed, and the time
at which certain events occur can often be determined. Communications with
Air Traffic Control, automated radio weather briefings, and conversation
between the
pilots and ground or cabin crew are also recorded. [NTSB web site]

Regarding the Flight Data Recorder it says:

The FDR onboard the aircraft records many different operating
conditions of the flight. By regulation, newly manufactured aircraft
must
monitor at least twenty eight important parameters such as time,
altitude,
airspeed, heading, and aircraft attitude. In addition, some FDRs can
record the status of more than 300 other in-flight characteristics that can
aid in the investigation. The items monitored can be anything from flap
position to 

Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

[William Shannon]

In a message dated 9/24/01 1:32:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Klinton did a wonderful job with the islamic terrorists. He allowed Bin Laden
to move into Bosina and Albania and set up his terrorist/drug headquarters
there. It will be years before that mess is cleaned up.

Nothing like the terrible toll on our civil liberties that are being considered and will likely be enacted under Bush.
The march to NWO is in full swing now with Bush and his cronies leading the troops.

Bill.

[CTRL] Fwd: ADL Continues Fingering Of Left-Wing Groups : Progressive Labor Party Ad...

[William Shannon]

ADL Continues Fingering Of Left-Wing Groups
Progressive Labor Party Added To Targets

9/24/01 1:41:15 PM
LSN Staff

New York, NY -- Consider it official -- the ADL is now in the business of
monitoring Left-
wing/Anarchist hate groups.

On their latest What They Are Saying web page (), much of which's
material
has been cribbed from LSN reports (incuding an amusing piece on Third
Positionists in Idaho -- which we mistakenly identified as LSN
supporters in
our original piece), the Progressive Labor Party is singled out for
attack, for
making anti-capitalist statements that contradict the ADL's party line:

Left-wing/Anarchist

Progressive Labor Party. Added 9/20/01. The Brooklyn-based Progressive
Labor
Party issued a statement claiming that the attacks of September 11 are
the
direct result of the wars that capitalists wage against each other. The
PLP's
statement argues that the attackers chose to attack workers rather than
make
revolution against capitalism. The little terrorists (the attackers)
don't
want to eliminate the horrors of the capitalist system. They only wish
to grab a piece of the pie from the 'big terrorists.' The big
terrorists
are the multi-national corporations and the governments who support
them, especially the U.S. government. According to the PLP, the little
terrorists pretend to be champions of the oppressed, but they are just
in it
for themselves. The U.S. bosses, though, may cry crocodile tears for
the
victims of the attacks, but these bosses have killed many more workers
than
that themselves. PLP warns that the danger is that in our righteous
anger
against the New York terrorists, people will lose sight of how much
death is
caused by the big terrorists-the capitalist system. Worse yet, some
might
actively or passively side with the U.S. bosses as they whip up hysteria
against Arabs and increase police state fascist policies against the
working
class.

Included in recent ADL briefing have been other left-wing organizations
such as
the International Socialist Organization and the International Action
Center.
About them, the ADL stated:

Left-wing/Anarchist

International Action Center.
Added 9/13/01. This New York-based group, founded by Ramsey Clark, issued
a
statement declaring that the U.S. must stop its barbaric terrorism. It
stated
that the IAC extends its most heartfelt sympathies and condolences to
all who
lost loved ones, but asserted that the Bush administration is taking
advantage
of the tragic human toll to strengthen the forces of repression while
intensifying the Pentagon's war drive, especially in the Middle East. It
stated that Arab and Muslim peoples in the U.S. are facing racist
harassment
and called on those people who oppose racism to stand shoulder to
shoulder
with the Arab-American community in the face of this reactionary frenzy.
It
urged all anti-war activists and progressive people to oppose the Bush
administration and the Pentagon, as well as current efforts to strengthen
police measures under cover of the present crisis.

International Socialist Organization.
Added 9/13/01. A September 13 statement of the ISO, based in Chicago, does
not
condone the attacks but does express fear that they will be used as a
pretext
to strengthen US military might. The ISO is also wary of widespread
persecution of Arab-Americans. The people who died in the September 11
attacks
are not to blame for the U.S. government's policy, it said. Neither are
millions of Arab Americans to blame for the attacks. We stand with our
Palestinian brothers and sisters in their just demand for
self-determination
and freedom from Israeli oppression and we will oppose any attempt to use
this
tragedy to justify that oppression.

The ADL is vociferously pursuing this war, with the intent of using US
bodies
to defend Israel, and has expanded its surveillance of organizations to
include any left-wing organization that opposes their war effort.  Such
expansion is the necessary conclusion of a policy of fighting hate,
where hate is broadly defined it includes anyone who has an opinion that
the
self-appointed censors don't define as non-hateful.

Ironically, the Progressive Labor Party's slogan on speech issues is no
free
speech for fascists.  At a recent rally, the International Socialist
Organization and International Action Center waived signs calling for no
free
speech for haters and no tolerance for intolerance.

It looks like the World Trade Center's chickens aren't the only ones that
have
come home to roost.

No tolerance for those intolerant of intolerance anyone?



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[CTRL] FW: [Zero] Gandhi on Democracy

[thew]

Title: FW: [Zero] Gandhi on Democracy




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DEMOCRACY 

Democracy necessarily means a conflict of will and ideas, involving 
sometimes a war to the knife between different ideas. 

The very essence of democracy is that every person represents all the varied 
interests which compose the nation. 

Democracy is a great institution and, therefore, it is liable to be greatly 
abused. 

Democracy is an impossible thing until the power is shared by all, but let 
not democracy 
degenerate into mobocracy. 

Democracy is not a state in which people act like sheep. 

Democracy and violence can ill go together. 

Evolution of democracy is not possible if we are not prepared to hear the 
other side. 

Democracy, disciplined and enlightened, is the finest thing in the world. 

The spirit of democracy cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from 
within. 

My notion of democracy is that under it the weakest should have the same 
opportunity as the strongest. 

To safeguard democracy the people must have a keen sense of independence, 
self-respect and their oneness. 

Intolerance, discourtesy and harshness are taboo in all good society and are 
surely contrary to the spirit of democracy. 

In true democracy every man and women is taught to think for himself or 
herself. 

The spirit of democracy cannot be established in the midst of terrorism, 
whether governmental or popular. 

Corruption and hypocrisy ought not to be inevitable products of democracy, 
as they undoubtedly are today. 
~Mahatma Gandhi 

Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

[Saba]

-Caveat Lector-

One on a special this bun sang this song - and Stevie Wonder and Whoopie
Golberg were part of the torture...We Are The World.and then we
had Michael Jackson prancing about like Twinkle Toes, with the kiddies -
a Peter Pan, leading them to his boudoir.

Remember thinking if this is the World - Stop the World I want OFF

Saba

Whooopie and Stevie had all these little pig tails over their
heads.forget which disaster brought them out on this one.

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[CTRL] Blank Check

[William Shannon]

http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2001/09/21/107.html



Friday, Sep. 21, 2001. Page VIII
Global Eye-Blank Check
By Chris Floyd

"The president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons."

-- Joint Resolution, U.S. Congress, Sept. 15, 2001



An extraordinary document, unprecedented in U.S. history. Although modeled on the Tonkin Gulf resolution that opened the spigots for the Vietnam War, and on the narrowly passed measure that belatedly gave George Bush I constitutional cover for the vast army he had already marshaled in the Persian Gulf, the emergency powers awarded last week to George Bush II surpass anything yet seen in the American republic.

Never has a president been given such sweeping authority. It's true that some have taken it: most notably Abraham Lincoln, who used what he called his "inherent powers" to quash civil liberties, jail dissidents, even suspend the writ of habeas corpus, the cornerstone of 800 years of Anglo-American jurisprudence. But these draconian measures -- imposed, after all, when the Union was under sustained assault by a million homegrown rebels, not 19 God-maddened criminals on a suicide run -- were met with violent protests, Congressional investigations, bitter partisan invective and court challenges

Yet there was nary a peep out of the modern guardians of the Republic in the Senate as they voted Caesar this dictatorial power. For note carefully that it is Bush alone who decides who is a terrorist; it is Bush alone who decides what constitutes the "aiding" of terrorism.

The Congressional lambkins of course believe that Bush will not abuse these powers. And no doubt he and his Praetorians will show the same tender concern for liberty, legality and constitutional authority they displayed last year when they sent hired thugs to break up the vote recount in Miami, then successfully urged the Supreme Court to strip Congress of its clearly defined constitutional responsibility to resolve disputed elections, thereby shutting down the vote and transforming callow Octavian into the manly Augustus who rules today.

Poor lambkins, so trusting. But what else can they do? What can any of us do? We must all now trust that this man who can't hold his liquor will be able to hold near-absolute power without getting drunk on it. We must trust that he will somehow ignore the counsels of the conservative faithful who have heretofore molded his thinking and guided all his actions.

For these wise guides have been busy defining just who is a terrorist -- and a terrorist sympathizer. In U.S. newspapers, on radio and television, in weighty journals, they're naming and shaming the guilty. The list is long: Anyone who criticizes the president in this time of crisis. Anyone who has ever criticized him before. Anyone who gives information to the American people about what has happened to them and what is being done in their name -- including a conservative senator like Orrin Hatch, who was publicly slapped down by the White House for speaking without permission. Anyone who suggests that there may be a complicated historical context to the tragedy, one in which America is not entirely without a tincture of culpability for helping create the scenario that belched forth this hell.

All of these constitute a "fifth column," an "internal enemy," a "corps of traitors," we are told by Bush's patrons and mentors. Every day, they pour this poison into Caesar's ear -- but we must trust that he's not listening. We must trust that although he has always believed and embraced their Talebanic precepts before, he will now, miraculously, discard them.

We must trust that Caesar will only sip at the cup of power that's been given him, just enough to rouse his spirits without disordering his senses. For it's entirely up to him now; Congress has abandoned its ancient duty to represent the people. If he decides you're a terrorist -- you are. If he decides you helped them -- you did. Vengeance is his; he will repay.

Don't you feel safer already?

[CTRL] Bush's Orwellian Address

[William Shannon]

http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html



Bush's Orwellian Address:
Happy New Year: It's 1984
by Jacob Levich



Seventeen years later than expected, 1984 has arrived. In his address to Congress Thursday, George Bush effectively declared permanent war -- war without temporal or geographic limits; war without clear goals; war against a vaguely defined and constantly shifting enemy. Today it's Al-Qaida; tomorrow it may be Afghanistan; next year, it could be Iraq or Cuba or Chechnya.

No one who was forced to read 1984 in high school could fail to hear a faint bell tinkling. In George Orwell's dreary classic, the totalitarian state of Oceania is perpetually at war with either Eurasia or Eastasia. Although the enemy changes periodically, the war is permanent; its true purpose is to control dissent and sustain dictatorship by nurturing popular fear and hatred. The permanent war undergirds every aspect of Big Brother's authoritarian program, excusing censorship, propaganda, secret police, and privation. In other words, it's terribly convenient. And conveniently terrible. Bush's alarming speech pointed to a shadowy enemy that lurks in more 60 countries, including the US.

He announced a policy of using maximum force against any individuals or nations he designates as our enemies, without color of international law, due process, or democratic debate. He explicitly warned that much of the war will be conducted in secret. He rejected negotiation as a tool of diplomacy. He announced starkly that any country that doesn't knuckle under to US demands will be regarded as an enemy. He heralded the creation of a powerful new cabinet-level police agency called the "Office of Homeland Security."

Orwell couldn't have named it better. By turns folksy ("Ya know what?") and chillingly bellicose ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"), Bush stepped comfortably into the role of Big Brother, who needs to be loved as well as feared. Meanwhile, his administration acted swiftly to realize the governing principles of Oceania:

WAR IS PEACE. A reckless war that will likely bring about a deadly cycle of retaliation is being sold to us as the means to guarantee our safety. Meanwhile, we've been instructed to accept the permanent war as a fact of daily life. As the inevitable slaughter of innocents unfolds overseas, we are to "live our lives and hug our children."

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY. "Freedom itself is under attack," Bush said, and he's right. Americans are about to lose many of their most cherished liberties in a frenzy of paranoid legislation. The government proposes to tap our phones, read our email and seize our credit card records without court order. It seeks authority to detain and deport immigrants without cause or trial. It proposes to use foreign agents to spy on American citizens. To save freedom, the warmongers intend to destroy it.

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, the Pentagon has advised. Meanwhile, the sorry history of American imperialism -- collaboration with terrorists, bloody proxy wars against civilians, forcible replacement of democratic governments with corrupt dictatorships -- is strictly off-limits to mainstream media. Lest it weaken our resolve, we are not to be allowed to understand the reasons underlying the horrifying crimes of September 11.

The defining speech of Bush's presidency points toward an Orwellian future of endless war, expedient lies, and ubiquitous social control. But unlike 1984's doomed protagonist, we've still got plenty of space to maneuver and plenty of ways to resist. It's time to speak and to act. It falls on us now to take to the streets, bearing a clear message for the warmongers: We don't love Big Brother.

Jacob Levich is an writer, editor, and activist living in Queens, New York.

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[CTRL] Depleted Uranium Shells In Bush's War?

[William Shannon]

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/



Veterans' alert on uranium shells
    
SHELLS with depleted uranium tips are being transported to the Middle East for use in the war against terrorism despite concerns of health threats to thousands of Nato service personnel, The Telegraph has learnt. 

Veterans of the Gulf War and the Balkans who believe that the armour-piercing ammunition caused them to suffer leukaemia and other illnesses, last night gave a warning that a new generation of service personnel could be at risk. Nato has been investigating complaints by former service personnel from several European countries that radioactive dust spread by the weapons made them ill. 

A spokesman for the United States Defence Department confirmed that depleted uranium shells were widely used in America's armed forces. The department refused to take any action after a Pentagon report found no link between depleted uranium and cancer. 

The Ministry of Defence, which earlier this year agreed to test hundreds of veterans for traces of uranium poisoning, also confirmed that depleted uranium rounds could be used in a forthcoming conflict against terrorists. An MoD spokesman said: "We do still have depleted uranium-tipped shells and, if we have to, we will use them." He added that the only depleted uranium-tipped shells used in British Armed Forces were those fired by the the Army's Challenger 2 tank. 

Tony Flint, a spokesman for the National Gulf Veterans and Families Association, said: "This is a major concern for us. Depleted uranium should not be used in any forthcoming conflict. These weapons do not just affect the enemy, they have consequences for the troops that go in on the ground after they are fired." 

Mr Flint, a 54-year-old Gulf veteran, now suffers from fatigue and a muscle-wasting illness. He added: "Depleted uranium will cause a lot more deaths through poisoning. We could be creating another generation of service personnel with terrible illnesses." 

Bernie McPhillips, of the Gulf Families Association, another campaign group, said: "If they go ahead with a ground invasion, it is more than likely that depleted uranium weapons will be used and there will be consequences for our troops. Until they develop a new weapon, depleted uranium will continue to be used." 

A recent investigation for the MoD by the scientists at the Royal Society found no evidence of a link between depleted uranium and cancer, but conceded that further research was needed. 
 
Source:  Telegraph 
    

Re: [CTRL] FC: Feds ground crop dusters amidst worry about biochem attacks (fwd)

[Tenorlove]

-Caveat Lector-

This doesn't bother me too much. I'm sure the farmers, with their
all-American know-how and ingenuity, can find another way to keep the
pests away from their crops.

Also, hopefully, this will mean an end to chemtrails.


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Re: [CTRL] Annie McKenna's transcript on mind control and ritual abuse

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Dear list,

Please find info on this below.

Sincerely,  Neil




from : http://members.aol.com/smartnews/am01.htm

This transcript is from a presentation by Annie McKenna at The Fourth Annual
Ritual Abuse, Secretive Organizations and Mind Control Conference, August 10
- 12, 2001 at the DoubleTree Hotel in Windsor Locks, CT. Some of the topics
discussed may be triggering.

Due to the nature of the material discussed, survivors may want to read this
with a support person present.

Annie McKenna is an alleged survivor of Project Monarch, a government mind
control program involving the military, various intelligence agencies, and
the Nazi's ushered into the U.S. under Operation Paperclip and wrote
Paperclip Dolls. She has an article in the 12/00 issue of Media Bypass. She
owes her rapid healing and integration process to a strong cooperative system
and scrapbook therapy. Her topic is Shattering the Myths - Deprogramming
with System Communication.

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[CTRL] On RadioLiberty tonight 9/24/ 9pm PDT

[Kris Millegan]

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FWIW

radioliberty.com


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Re: [CTRL] John P. O'Neill/ Head of WTC Security Former FBI Counterterrorism

[Samantha L.]

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In a message dated 9/24/01 9:31:40 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 THIS should set off everyone's alarms

  So now we have a guy who at the very least was criminally negligent in
  leaving classified data regarding NYC security procedures available for
  anyone to readand had to be responsible for the instructions to WTC
  occupants to NOT evacuate after the planes hit.


  June

  Thank you for paying such close attention to this information.  I thought
it was terribly important, as I searched last night and found one piece of
curious information after another.   Oddly, I could not find mention of the
August 2001 investigation into O'Neill in the archives of The Tampa Tribune.
Because I am familiar with that part of Fla, it occurred to me to try The St.
Petersburg Times, and I found the article I posted.  I wonder how many people
would know to try that route?

  One way of interpreting this info re O'Neill is a terrible indictment
against him, yet I wonder if he may have, in fact, played the role of patsy
 or partial patsy.  He is dead after all.  The FBI agents who intimidated
witnesses after the JFK assassination probably foresaw grand careers in front
of them for cooperating with the shadow government - certainly not instant
death.

  In a career otherwise full of accolades, in the last few months, O'Neill
got bad boy press twice - the first time in July 2001 (for being prohibited
from returning to Yemen) , and the second in August 2001 (for being negligent
with national security documents.)  This leaves me to wonder if these events
were contrived in advance to cast suspicion on O'Neill later - possibly with
his cooperation?

  He may have played a deliberate role in the unfolding of the events on the
11th, but he may also have been sacrificed to scapegoat later - much like
Oswald.  Oswald knew in advance about the impending assassination, but did he
know the role he was to play afterward?  He was, in all likelihood, set up.
O'Neill may have been too.  He may have been a good guy, or he may have been
a bad guy who was then surprisingly betrayed by his colleagues.  In short, I
don't know WHAT to make of this information, other than it is highly
suspicious.

Samantha

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Re: [CTRL] Just wondering

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In a message dated 9/24/01 12:07:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Nothing like the terrible toll on our civil liberties that are being
considered and will likely be enacted under Bush.
The march to NWO is in full swing now with Bush and his cronies leading the
troops. 

Being considered and being done are two different things. They have not been
enacted, yet.
Did Klinton or did he not allow the known terrorist Bin Laden to set up
headquarters in Bosina and Albania?

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[CTRL] ZDNet: Terrorists and steganography

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In addition to the obvious use of steganography as a method of encrypting
messages in an ordinary-looking wrapper,this author makes an additional
point: this is a nice vehicle for building a firewall against familiarity
between agents.  --MS




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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/zd/20010924/tc/terrorists_and_steganography_
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Terrorists and steganography

By Bruce Schneier
Special to ZDNet


Security expert Bruce Schneier writes that terrorist groups may be using
steganography to communicate, allowing communication without any group
knowing the identity of the other.

COMMENTARY--Guess what? Osama Bin Ladin uses steganography. According to
nameless U.S. officials and experts and U.S. and foreign officials,
terrorist groups are hiding maps and photographs of terrorist targets and
posting instructions for terrorist activities on sports chat rooms,
pornographic bulletin boards and other Web sites.

Simply put, steganography is the science of hiding messages in messages.
Typically, a message (either plaintext or, more cleverly, ciphertext) is
hidden in the low-order bits of a digital photograph. To the uninitiated
observer, it's just a picture. But to the sender and receiver, there's a
message hiding in there.

It doesn't surprise me that terrorists are using this trick. The very
aspects of steganography that make it unsuitable for normal corporate use
make it ideally suited for terrorist use. Most importantly, it can be used
in an electronic dead drop.

If you read the FBI affidavit against (accused spy) Robert Hanssen, you
learn how Hanssen communicated with his Russian handlers. They never met,
but would leave messages, money and documents for one another in plastic
bags under a bridge. Hanssen's handler would leave a signal in a public
place--a chalk mark on a mailbox--to indicate a waiting package. Hanssen
would later collect the package.

That's called a 'dead drop'. It has many advantages over a face-to-face
meeting. One, the two parties are never seen together. Two, the two parties
don't have to coordinate a rendezvous. Three, and most importantly, one
party doesn't even have to know who the other one is (a definite advantage
if one of them is arrested). Dead drops can be used to facilitate
completely anonymous, asynchronous communications.

Using steganography to embed a message in a pornographic image and posting
it to a Usenet newsgroup is the cyberspace equivalent of a dead drop. To
everyone else, it's just a picture. But to the receiver, there's a message
in there waiting to be extracted.

To make it work in practice, the terrorists would need to set up some sort
of code. Just as Hanssen knew to collect his package when he saw the chalk
mark, a virtual terrorist will need to know to look for his message. (He
can't be expected to search every picture.) There are lots of ways to
communicate a signal: timestamp on the message, an uncommon word in the
subject line, etc. Use your imagination here--the possibilities are
limitless.

The effect is that the sender can transmit a message without ever
communicating directly with the receiver. There is no e-mail between them,
no remote logins, no instant messages. All that exists is a picture posted
to a public forum, and then downloaded by anyone sufficiently enticed by
the subject line (both third parties and the intended receiver of the
secret message).

So, what's a counter-espionage agency to do? There are the standard ways of
finding steganographic messages, some of which I have outlined in a
previous essay. If Bin Laden is using pornographic images to embed his
secret messages, it is unlikely these pictures are being taken in
Afghanistan.

They're probably downloaded from the Web. If the NSA can keep a database of
images (wouldn't that be something?), then they can find ones with subtle
changes in the low-order bits. If Bin Laden uses the same image to transmit
multiple messages, the NSA could notice that. Otherwise, there's probably
nothing the NSA can do. Dead drops, both real and virtual, can't be
prevented.

Why can't businesses use this? The primary reason is that legitimate
businesses don't need dead drops. I remember one company talk about a
corporation embedding a steganographic message to its salespeople in a
photo on the corporate Web page. Why not just send an encrypted e-mail?
Because someone might notice the e-mail and know that the salespeople all
got an encrypted message. So send a message every day: a real message when
you need to, and a dummy message otherwise. This is a traffic analysis
problem, and there are other techniques to solve it. Steganography just
doesn't apply here.

Steganography is good way for terrorist cells to communicate, allowing
communication without any group knowing the identity of the other. There
are other ways to build a dead drop in cyberspace. For example, a spy can
sign up for a free, anonymous e-mail account. And Bin Laden probably uses

[CTRL] Orlando Sentinel: Graham: Terrorists didn't reach all targets

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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This article has some chilling stuff:

...An Army official has told the Sentinel that combat jets already are
flying over U.S. cities to protect 'major installations' such as nuclear
power plants.

...bin Laden has acquired samples of biological agents, including viruses
such as Ebola and salmonella from Russia, botulinum toxin and equipment for
mass production from the Czech Republic and anthrax from North Korea.

Jamal Ahmad al-Fadl, a Sudanese national and admitted accomplice of bin
Laden who surrendered to American authorities in 1996, described his role
in an attempt to purchase $1.5 million worth of uranium...

In 1998, the Arabic news magazine Al-Watan Al-Arabi reported that bin
Laden purchased 20 stolen nuclear warheads from Chechen rebels for $30
million and 2 tons of opium...




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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-graham09172001.story

Graham: Terrorists didn't reach all targets

By Mark Schlueb, Christine Shenot and Jon Seinman | Sentinel Staff Writers
Posted September 18, 2001



Terrorists planned more attacks.

JESSICA MANN
ORLANDO SENTINEL
Sep 17, 2001



Sen. Bob Graham
Jan 14, 2001

The attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were intended to be
the first wave of a sustained, days-long campaign of terror in the United
States and around the world, U.S. Sen. Bob Graham said Monday.

Graham, chairman of the Senate's Select Committee on Intelligence, told the
Orlando Sentinel that hijacked airliners were only one facet of a
widespread plan by a cabal of terrorists likely headed by Osama bin Laden.

The Florida Democrat was briefed about the findings Sunday by the CIA.

There has been very credible evidence gathered since Tuesday that
Tuesday's attacks were not designed to be a one-day event, he said. There
were other acts of terrorism in the United States and elsewhere that were
part of this plan.

Other attacks likely would not have involved commandeered airliners, Graham
said.

Not necessarily hijacking another airliner, but maybe putting a chemical
in a city's water system, or blowing up a bridge in a major urban center,
he said.


Bin Laden's weapons

Officials don't know precisely what kind of weapons are at the disposal of
bin Laden and his terrorist cells scattered across the globe.

Although bin Laden-linked terrorists have successfully used car- and
boat-based bombs, the Islamic extremist also has tried to acquire
components to build nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass
destruction, according to international security experts who cite
intelligence reports.

And, experts warn, his arsenal could include more unorthodox weapons -- as
unexpected as flying fuel-laden passenger jetliners into the World Trade
Center and the Pentagon.

The one thing several experts agree on is that the terrorists want to spawn
widespread death.

They're going to try and find places with larger numbers of people and
that are highly symbolic, where they can cause a lot of destruction and
panic and bring attention to their cause, said P.W. Singer, a security and
intelligence scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C.

As recently as Sunday morning, Graham said, intelligence agencies worried
that follow-up attacks still might take place. He said he could not
identify possible targets of other attacks, and would not reveal how U.S.
intelligence agencies learned of the plans.

However, an Army official has told the Sentinel that combat jets already
are flying over U.S. cities to protect major installations such as
nuclear power plants.

Bin Laden, a fugitive Saudi multimillionaire thought to be sheltered in
Afghanistan, is known to have bankrolled earlier attacks on U.S.
installations and people -- including last October's bombing of the USS
Cole and the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center.

The 17th of 52 children fathered by a billionaire Saudi builder, bin Laden
used his inheritance to create al-Qaeda -- in Arabic, The Base -- an
umbrella group that has helped train and support dozens of Islamic
terrorist groups around the world since 1989, according to documents from
the Justice and State departments.


Intelligence failures

Graham said a lack of coordination among American intelligence services
contributed to the failure to obtain warning of last week's attacks. At
least two suspects linked to the attacks had, at some point, been under CIA
surveillance.

There was a serious lack of coordination among federal agencies, he said.
There were some people with suspect backgrounds whom the CIA had been
following outside the U.S., who were able to enter the U.S., which raises
questions about our immigration service. And once they were in the U.S.,
they were able to lose themselves in the crowd.

On Thursday, Graham is expected to introduce a package of intelligence
reforms. Among the changes would be a new White House-based coordinator for
all U.S. intelligence agencies. He also plans to call for easing
restrictions 

[CTRL] Reuters: Travel Agent Fired for Booking 'Bin Laden'

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010921/od/travelagent_dc_1.html



Travel Agent Fired for Booking 'Bin Laden'

Friday September 21 7:45 AM ET


KARACHI, Pakistan (Reuters) - A Jittery Pakistan International Airlines
said Thursday it had fired a travel agency for booking a passenger named
Osama bin Laden on a flight from Karachi to Islamabad for Friday morning.

``PIA Thursday canceled the agency of a regular travel agent who had sent
the airline a booking in the name of Osama bin Laden for the
Karachi-Islamabad sector,'' the spokesman for the state-run airline told
Reuters.

A senior PIA official said Karachi-based Princely Travel, was delisted
after the airline received information from its central reservation office
that a passenger named Osama bin Laden was booked for Friday morning on a
Karachi-Islamabad flight.

``We don't know who the passenger is...Is he the prime suspect of attacks
on the U.S. or not?...But the decision has been taken to ensure the safety
of the airline,'' the official said.

U.S. officials have named Saudi-born militant Osama bin Laden, who has been
living in Afghanistan (news - web sites), as the prime suspect in last
week's attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon
(news - web sites) in Washington in which thousands of people have died and
are missing.



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[CTRL] Reuters: US Anti-Gravity Research

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Science - Reuters - 
updated 3:52 PM ET Sep 24 
US Has Heavily Researched Anti-Gravity, Book Says
By Bradley Perrett 

LONDON (Reuters) - The U.S. military may have conducted serious research into 
anti-gravity based on Nazi studies, a top defense journalist suggests in a new 
book. 
In ``The Hunt for Zero Point,'' journalist Nick Cook says, based on a 
decade's research, he believes by the 1950s the U.S. was seriously working on 
anti-gravity ``electrogravitics'' technology, which would lift and propel 
vehicles without wings or thrust. 
``I feel intuitively that some vehicle has been developed, particularly given 
that there is this wealth of scientific data out there, and the Americans have 
never been slow to pick up on this sort of science,'' Cook, the aerospace 
consultant for Jane's Defense Weekly, told Reuters in an interview. 
Cook uncovered reports and sightings of a Nazi research device that had been 
hidden in a remote part of Poland, where it had apparently been supplied with 
great quantities of electricity -- which an electrogravitic experiment would 
require. 
Curiously, barely a hint of such Nazi research appeared after the war, 
suggesting that whoever captured it -- probably the United States -- immediately 
stamped it ``secret,'' he said. 
Cook noted that, as a respected expert, he is risking his reputation by 
writing seriously about a technology associated with UFOs, which most scientists 
dismiss as science fiction embraced by ``hocus-pocus'' believers. 
The United States is known to have a huge budget for so called ``black 
projects,'' because it spends more on defense than can be accounted for by 
adding up the value of public programs. 
Cook admitted he cannot produce a conclusive case. But that is the nature of 
black projects, in which even the workers usually have no idea what they are 
working on. 
In 1947, amid the early craze of UFO reports, an air force general reported 
on the possibility of the United States building disc-shaped objects with 
extreme rates of climb and maneuverability but without noise or evident 
propulsion. 
In the mid 1950s electrogravitics was the subject of a few press reports, 
including one that described work by most of the United States' major defense 
contractors, Cook reported. 
And then it all went quiet -- just as stealth technology suddenly disappeared 
from view in the mid 1970s, only to re-emerge as operational aircraft in the 
late 1980s. 
Academic papers on the subject have mysteriously disappeared from libraries. 
There is still no firm evidence that electrogravitics is more than science 
fiction. Civilian scientists and amateurs have experimented with it, and while 
some have reported success, no one seems to have reproduced their results to 
prove that it works. 
 
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[CTRL] Two articles on crop-dusting

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,34951,00.html


FBI Grounds Crop-Dusting Planes

AP
Monday, September 24, 2001

To allay fears that terrorists will conduct chemical and biological warfare
attacks on the United States, crop-dusting planes will be grounded until
Tuesday afternoon, the Federal Aviation Administration said Monday.

The FAA's Frasier Jones said that as of right now, agricultural planes will
be grounded until 12:05 p.m. local time, but that this is subject to
change.

The government has reason to believe terrorists have researched using
crop-dusting planes in attacks. J.D. Will Lee, 62, general manager of
South Florida Crop Care in Belle Glade, said Monday that groups of two or
three Middle Eastern men came by almost every weekend for six or eight
weeks before the terrorist attacks, including the weekend just before the
assaults.

Lee said a co-worker, James Lester, positively identified one of the
hijacking suspects, Mohamed Atta. Atta is believed to be one of the suicide
hijackers in the terrorist attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the
Pentagon in Virginia.

Asked about the new grounding, the FBI said it was one of the steps the
bureau has taken out of an abundance of caution and in reaction to every
bit of information and threats received during the course of this
investigation.

James Callan, executive director of the National Agricultural Aviation
Association, said he got a call from a Federal Aviation Administration
official about 8 a.m. Sunday.

They said it was a national security issue, said Callan. I made some
calls and the indication was that there still is no specific threat, but
the FBI apparently ordered this and they just want to make sure that
everyone in the ag aviation industry is keeping their eyes and ears open.

FAA spokesman Scott Brenner said, The intelligence community came to us
and encouraged us to shut down the crop-dusters.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld outlined the potential threat Sunday
on CBS' Face The Nation, saying that countries sponsoring terrorism have
very active chemical and biological warfare programs.

We know that they are in close contact with terrorist networks around the
world, he said.

Crop-dusters also were grounded Sept. 16 and for the past week have been
barred from flying over metropolitan areas, with some exceptions. The
crop-dusters were grounded along with all other civilian aircraft after the
attacks, with flights resuming Sept. 14.

Callan said there are probably about 3,500 agricultural aviators and that
this is a crucial time of the year for aerial spraying of crops.


The Investigation Continues

All airport workers with access to planes and secure areas were ordered
Monday to submit to new criminal background checks.

In the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, airports and airlines
are required to redo criminal checks and scrutinize employment histories
for baggage handlers, food service workers and other employees who have
access to airliners, ramps, tarmacs and other secure areas.

We are requiring revalidation of all airport IDs to make sure that they
are genuine, current and belong with the person they are with, said FAA
spokeswoman Rebecca Trexler.

Investigators are looking at whether box-cutting tools found on two jets
may have been planted there by individuals other than passengers who had
access to airliners. The hijackers used box-cutters in the hijackings two
weeks ago.

The FBI spent an hour Saturday questioning Khalid al Draibi, who was
arrested 13 miles south of Dulles Airport the night after the attacks. A
man with the same birthdate and a similar name appears on an FBI list of 21
alleged suspects in the attacks.

Attorney Drewry B. Hutcheson Jr. said his client spoke voluntarily without
immunity to an agent and I hope at this point that based on our interview
that the FBI's suspicions have subsided. Hutcheson said his client, a
Saudi citizen, denies knowing anything about the attacks or anyone
involved.

Hutcheson said Draibi, who has worked in Alabama, was in the Washington,
D.C., area because he wanted to go to the Saudi Embassy, probably for
financial help.
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http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/abc/20010924/ts/wtc_investigation_1.html


Hijacker Visited Crop-Duster Airfield

By ABCNEWS.com


Authorities: terrorists may have been planning a chemical, biological
attack.

The man believed to have flown a hijacked passenger airliner into the North
Tower of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 also wanted to get behind the
controls of a crop-dusting plane, leading authorities to believe terrorists
may have been planning a chemical or biological attack.

Mohamed Atta, a suspected ringleader in the terror attacks on New York and
Washington, made repeated visits to a crop-dusting airfield in Florida,
according to Willie Lee, the chief pilot and general manager of South
Florida Crop Care in Belle Glade.

Lee identified Atta to the FBI, telling agents

[CTRL] NYT: HEIR APPARENT: Egyptian Doctor Believed to Be bin Laden's No.2

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/24/international/24AIDE.html


September 24, 2001

HEIR APPARENT

Egyptian Doctor Believed to Be bin Laden's No. 2


By DOUGLAS JEHL


CAIRO, Sept. 23 ó Among top lieutenants to Osama bin Laden, several are
Egyptians, including a surgeon from Cairo who ranks second in the hierarchy
of the Al Qaeda organization and is seen by some intelligence experts as
Mr. bin Laden's most likely successor.

The man, Ayman al-Zawahiri, 50, was the leader of the Egyptian Islamic
Jihad, the terrorist group blamed for the 1981 assassination of President
Anwar el-Sadat. He joined in an alliance with Mr. bin Laden's group in
1998.

After the American cruise missile attacks on Al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan
that year, Dr. Zawahiri telephoned a Pakistani reporter on Mr. bin Laden's
behalf and warned: The war has started. The Americans should wait for the
answer.

Mr. bin Laden, a Saudi exile, has brought vast sums of family money to the
Al Qaeda cause, and has proven an extraordinarily charismatic figure to his
followers. But experts in Cairo describe Dr. Zawahiri as having delivered
to the organization the complementary and equally essential skills of a
shrewd intelligence and years of expertise.

Al-Zawahiri's experience is much broader than even bin Laden's, said
Dia'a Rashwan, one of Egypt's top experts on militants. His name has come
up in nearly every case involving Muslim extremists since the 1970's.


Dr. Zawahiri has not been seen in Egypt since 1986, when he packed up his
office in the middle-class suburb of Maadi and departed for Saudi Arabia,
Pakistan, Sudan and ultimately for Afghanistan, where he is believed to
share quarters with Mr. bin Laden.

His emergence as Mr. bin Laden's apparent deputy has raised his profile in
Egypt, particularly since the Sept. 11 attacks, with his career seen as a
particularly alarming example of how what began as homegrown grievances
have metastasized into a fury of global dimensions.

Since 1999, Dr. Zawahiri has been listed as one of Egypt's most-wanted men,
after authorities gave credence to claims that he had been responsible for
the 1995 bombing of the Egyptian embassy in Pakistan and other acts of
violence. He was sentenced to death in absentia by an Egyptian court that
year for activities linked to Jihad.

In 1999, too, he was indicted by a federal grand jury in New York for his
alleged role in the 1998 bombing of two American embassies in Kenya and
Tanzania, the actions that prompted the cruise missile attacks and , until
this month, had stood as the Al Qaeda group's most appalling actions.

But in his rare public statements, Dr. Zawahiri has remained
extraordinarily defiant.

Tell the Americans that we are not afraid of the bombardment, threats and
acts of aggression, he told the Pakistani reporter in 1998. We suffered
and survived Soviet bombings for 10 years in Afghanistan, and we are ready
for more sacrifices.

Dr. Zawahiri is now the most senior among several hundred Egyptians thought
to be working under Mr. bin Laden's leadership in Afghanistan, as part of
the February 1998 pact in which he enlisted his own faction of Jihad with
Mr. bin Laden's group and other organizations in what they called The
Islamic Front for Fighting Crusaders and Jews.

Among other Egyptians believed to be part of that front are Sobhi al-
Sitta, also known by the alias Abu Hafas al-Masri, who heads what is known
as the Islamic Army for the Liberation of Holy Sites, which claimed
responsibility for the 1998 American embassy bombings.

In January of this year, one of Mr. Sitta's daughters married a son of Mr.
bin Laden, according to television footage of the wedding broadcast on an
Arab satellite station. Dr. Zawahiri was said to be among the guests.

Dr. Zawahiri has been a fixture among Egypt's Islamic extremists since
1966, when, at the age of 15, he was arrested and later freed for his
membership in the outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, the Arab world's oldest
fundamentalist Muslim group.

He hails from a prosperous and prestigious family that gives him a pedigree
grounded firmly in both religion and politics. In 1974, he graduated from
Cairo University's medical school and obtained a master's degree in surgery
four years later. His father, who died in 1995, was a pharmacology
professor at the same university.

His grandfather, Rabia'a al-Zawahiri, was the grand imam of Cairo's Al
Azhar, the mainstream center of Muslim learning, and his great uncle, Abdel
Rahman Azzam, was the first secretary general of the Arab League.

Egyptians who know him describe him as a smart but cautious man with an
extraordinary dedication to extremist causes. He believes that attention
brings trouble, said Montasser al-Zayat, a lawyer for Egypt's Islamic
Group, a rival faction once closely aligned with Jihad.

Mr. Zayat, who spent three years in prison with Dr. Zawahiri after Mr.
Sadat's assassination, added of the Jihad leader: He believes that the
best way to talk is 

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The real Afghanistan is one where 85 per cent of the population are
subsistence farmers. Most Afghans don't have newspapers, television
sets or radios. They will not have heard of the World Trade Centre or
the Pentagon, and most will have no idea that a group of zealots has
attacked these icons of western civilisation. There isn't even a
postal service.

= = = = = =

Chris Buckley, Christian Aid Programme Officer for Afghanistan

I have just returned from Afghanistan, and cannot avoid a growing
feeling of dread at what may be about to befall the people I have left
there. The bellicose statements being issued by America and her allies
about revenge and retaliation for Tuesday's horrific terrorist attacks
against New York and Washington seem to be softening up western
electorates for some kind of massive military action against the
Afghan people.

Because of these threats, aid organisations have been forced to pull
out their foreign workers - fearing both that they may be caught in
the expected raids, or that they would be attacked as westerners after
the NATO bombers have flown away. The effects of this withdrawal could
be infinitely more tragic and devastating than the worst that a
wounded America may now throw at this long, long-suffering country.

For, although it has gone largely unreported, Afghanistan is in the
grip of a three-year drought and on the verge of mass
starvation. According to the UN-run World Food Programme, by the end
of the year 5.5 million people will be entirely dependent on food aid
to survive the winter - that's a quarter of the Afghan population.

As Christian Aid's programme officer responsible for Afghanistan, I
have been helping supply food and seeds to communities in desperate
need. In a few weeks the winter snows will come, cutting off the
hundreds of isolated villages whose only links to the outside world
are rutted dirt tracks.  Without seeds they will be unable to replant
for next year. Without food aid now, thousands could be dead before
the spring.

Already fears on the ground about this pending catastrophe are
filtering through. Only yesterday (Thurs) I received this message from
one of the local organisations funded by Christian Aid.

'What will happen to the people if aid agencies remain reluctant to
resume full operations? The consequences are quite clear that people
who are already suffering would be the victims. And if any military
action is taken, Afghan staff and civilians will be in real danger.

'Terrorism is the worst thing and it shows how blind these people are
as human beings. But if the leaders do not have patience and tolerance
they can only do further damage.'

This, I think you must agree, is not a voice from a country of
dedicated international terrorists or religious fanatics. But it is a
voice from the real Afghanistan, unrecognisable from the demonised
image we are being urged to accept.

The real Afghanistan is one where 85 per cent of the population are
subsistence farmers. Most Afghans don't have newspapers, television
sets or radios. They will not have heard of the World Trade Centre or
the Pentagon, and most will have no idea that a group of zealots has
attacked these icons of western civilisation. There isn't even a
postal service.

Now, in these isolated villages, families are down to their last few
weeks of food and already men women and children in the bulging
refugee camps are dying of cholera and malnutrition. I have spoken to
orphans with swollen bellies. I have spoken to men who have no money
to hire trucks to escape the drought and make it to the camps. I have
spoken to families who say they will wait in their villages for death.

And that was before the aid agencies were forced to withdraw. Afghans
are not willing victims - they are hardy peoples, as any Soviet
general will testify. For the past three years they have been doing
all they can to survive - sharing food, borrowing money to buy food,
crossing the borders with Pakistan and Iran to find illegal,
badly-paid work. Many used to work on the opium farms as casual
labourers.

But all these sources of income have dried up. Pakistan and Iran are
throwing thousands of Afghans out each month, the Taliban have banned
opium production and there is no food or credit to be had after three
years of drought.

And as I write this, our worst fears have just been realised. I have
just received the following message from a friend who works for
another of our partner organisations in western Afghanistan. He
writes: 'I hope you are fine. We have spoken to the World Food
Programme in Herat, and asked them to release food so we can
distribute it to our beneficiaries who are in severe need. But WFP has
stopped their activities right now. Could you please see if it is
possible to get the release from 

[CTRL] Lists of Racist Attacks Across the Country Since S11!

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**Lists of Racist Attacks Across the Country Since S11!
**Sep 20, 2001, NY IMC (http://nyc.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=11365)
**compiled by Anura Idupuganti 

These attacks have targeted Indians, Persians, Arabs, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs 
and Christians alike. Keep in mind that these are only the reported cases of 
violence, hatred, and discrimination.compiled by Anura Idupuganti 

CRIMES  EVENTS: 

1) In Mesa, Arizona, Balbir Singh Sodhi, 49, an Indian gas station 
owner was shot. The assailant then drove to another service station 
where a Lebanese-American employee was working; he fired shots but 
injured no one else. (CNN: 9/14) 

2) In Richmond Hill, Queens, an elderly Sikh man was beaten with a 
baseball bat; two others were shot at with paintball guns. (NY Times) 

3) In Gary, Indiana, a man in a ski mask fired more than 21 shots from 
a high-powered assault rifle at Hassan Awdah, a U.S. citizen born in 
Yemen, who stood behind a 1-inch-thick shield at 3 am on Wednesday. 
Awdah fled as the gunman tried to shoot him again. (Reuters/Chicago  
MSNBC.com) 

4) On Friday, a turban-wearing taxi driver was attacked by a man who 
accused him of being a terrorist. He was of Indian descent. (Seattle 
Times/Detroit Free Press) 

5) A car rammed into an Akron, OH Arab-owned grocery store by Jack 
Oueslati. (News Net 5: 9/16) 

6) In Huntington, N.Y., a 75-year-old man tried to run over a Pakistani 
woman in a shopping mall parking lot. The police said he screamed that 
he was doing this for my country. The man then followed the woman 
into a store and threatened to kill her for destroying my country. 
(Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press  New York Times: 9/14) 

7) Khaled Ksaibati, the faculty adviser for the Muslim Student 
Association at the University of Wyoming described an attack on the 
Muslim family at a Laramie Wal-Mart. The people who screamed in her 
face wanted her to go back to her country, he said. This is her 
country. She was born here. (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press) 

8) On Thursday night, a group of demonstrators gathered outside of the 
Madina Masjid on First Avenue and 11th Street in Manhattan. The mob 
yelled angrily and carried a banner saying Destroy the mosque or 
remove it from this place. Neighbors shouted the crowd down as the 
police held them back. (News Net 5:9/16) 

9) On Wednesday, a well-dressed young Manhattan couple yelled insults 
at a Lebanese-American who was desperately searching for survivors from 
the arts center he had run on the 92nd floor of the World Trade 
Center's north tower. They told me, 'You should go back to your 
country, you f--king Arabs, we should bomb the s--t out of you, said 
the man, Moukhtar Kocache. (Seattle Times) 

10) Yasser Ahmed, manager of an Arab-owned candy and grocery store on 
Broadway in Upper Manhattan, said about 10 people had come in shouting, 
You guys did it! and other accusations. (NY Times) 

11) One student, Basel Al-ken, whose family is from Syria, was taking 
his mother to Wal-Mart one night this week. A man in a parked car 
turned a laser-pointer in her face and made a throat-slitting motion 
with his hand. (NY Times) 

12) Four men chased Amrik Singh, a Sikh who wears a turban, on Tuesday 
as he fled lower Manhattan to return home to Hicksville. He jumped on a 
train to Brooklyn and took off his turban and stuffed it into his 
briefcase. (NY News Day) 

13) The local Sikh Temple in Richmond Hill was vandalized and received 
threatening phone calls. (Masala.com) 

14) A Pakistani familyís house was burned down in Sacramento. 
(Masala.com) 

15) One man stormed into a South Seattle mosque and threatened to burn 
it down. Another poured gasoline on a North Seattle mosque and tried to 
fire a gun at some of its members. (Seattle Times/Detroit Free Press) 

16) A 57-year-old Punjabi man was shot in Yuba City, California. 
Several cars of Punjabis were vandalized as well. (Masala.com chatroom) 

17) A student of either Indian or Middle Eastern origin was attacked 
on the University of Pennsylvania campus. Other colleges have reported 
similar stories of their students under attack. (MTV News  Seattle 
Times) 

18) The Islamic Institute of New York received a telephone call 
threatening the school's 450 students. The male caller said he was 
going to paint the streets with the children's blood. The school is 
closed, but continues to receive several threats a day. (Seattle 
Times/Detroit Free 

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destruction and devastation could be far greater than 11 September 2001.  The last 
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World War I began with a single assassination in the Balkans that then triggered 
pledges and alliances and spiralled from one event to another until the world was 
engulfed in a conflict it could not stop or control.  This American President, sad to 
say, reads little of such serious works and spent most of his time in college over at 
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should have been a clear warning sign to the world that the American President and his 
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  EGYPT REJECTS U.S. COALITION, UPGRADES TIES WITH IRAQ 

[Middle East NewsLine - Cairo - Friday, 21 Sept 2001]:As a policy debate rages at 
top levels in the Bush administration over attacking the regime of President Saddam 
Hussein, Egypt is moving to improve relations with Iraq.  Egyptian diplomats said 
President Hosni Mubarak plans to raise the level of representation between Baghdad and 
Cairo to the level of ambassador. They said diplomatic ties would be raised 
commensurate to the level of trade relations.   Egypt has refused to participate in a 
U.S.-led military coalition against any Saudi billionaire fugitive Osama Bin Laden or 
any of his government sponsors.   Instead, Mubarak has called for a United 
Nations-sponsored conference on international terrorism... Egypt has sent a new charge 
d'affaires to Baghdad. 



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OVERT ASSISTANCE FROM PAKISTAN  MAY BRING 

Re: [CTRL] ID

[Nakano Nakamura]

-Caveat Lector-

--- Euphorian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bush Contemplates National ID Card
_
Nakano comments:
A National ID Card has been in the works
for a long time.  Hillary and Bill tried to
push through a Health ID Card when they
tried to completely socialize the medical
industry during Clinton's first term.
The modern card would have biometric
information. Laserscan fingerprint like the
driver's license, laserprint photo,
possibly a DNA code of the individual,
facial biometric ID recognition,
barcoded information...and somewhere down the
line a smart chip not unlike what is available
now in the VISA Smartcard.
I expect that at some point, the chip will be
a microchip implanted under the skin.
Virtually all transactions (buying and selling)
and activities and movement through society will
require this chip.
It will be justified in the name of security.
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[CTRL] Poll: Third of New Yorkers support internment camps

[Bill Howard]

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From:  Newsday.com

Poll: Third of New Yorkers support internment camps for some.
By Marc Humbert, Associated Press Writer

Albany, NY—One third of New Yorkers favor establishing internment camps for
individuals who authorities identify as being sympathetic to terrorist
causes. according to a poll from the Siena Colledge Research Institute.

Fifty percent of those surveyed for the statewide poll said they were opposed
to that idea while 15 percent had no opinion.

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With l00% of the credit and l,000% of the accolades to David G. McDivitt =
I reprint the above referenced. =20

THANK YOU DAVID FOR THIS GEM. =20


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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

[CTRL] 1/3rd Of New Yorkers Support Internment Camps

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Poll: Third of New Yorkers support internment camps for some

By MARC HUMBERT
Associated Press Writer

September 24, 2001

ALBANY, N.Y. -- One third of New Yorkers favor establishing internment camps for "individuals who authorities identify as being sympathetic to terrorist causes," according to a poll from the Siena College Research Institute.

Fifty percent of those surveyed for the statewide poll said they were opposed to that idea while 15 percent had no opinion.

The telephone poll of 610 New York state residents over age 18 was conducted from Sept. 12, the day after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, through Sept. 19. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

The poll found 75 percent of respondents felt terrorist attacks would continue and 40 percent said they were very concerned they or family members could become victims.

Forty-six percent said the attacks make it less likely they will use commercial flights even though two-thirds of those surveyed said they believe the airlines can be made safe from terrorism. Ninety percent said undercover, armed security guards should be put on the planes.

Internment camps have been controversial since World War II when the United States ordered thousands of Japanese-Americans into such facilities.

Douglas Lonnstrom, director of the research institute, said that given that World War II experience he found it "startling" that 34 percent of those polled supported the creation of new internment camps.

Lonnstrom said he didn't know if those questioned equated the phrase "sympathetic to terrorist causes" to Arab-Americans.

But James Zogby, president of the Washington-based Arab American Institute, said, "You have to be very careful how you go down this road of defining sympathies. I think it's dangerous."

Zogby said creation of such camps would be unconstitutional, but that he wasn't surprised by the poll's findings.

"In the current context, when you ask that question you're going to get that kind of response," Zogby said. "I would say if you asked people, `Should terrorist sympathizers have their toenails forcibly plucked from their toes?', you would probably get something akin to that."

[CTRL] Fwd: Steganographia, by Johannes Trithemius

[Saba]

Hello Mike Spitzer - you there?

Now note this, my bible calendar code was devised by Trithemius
according to my old MI6 friend - covered writing she called it, and I
saw things - like abstract art, etc. using the calendar keyed to the
murders.

So - Steganographia by developed by Trithemius - a monk at Spanheim or
Spandau - where the held the 7 Nazis.

Now Speer, Hess, the Baron all there - Speer in his diary mentioned they
took the Baron's Bible watchword calendar from him saying it was coded
(the Russian gurd did this).

So it was a Gideon bible - and McVeigh left a messge in a Gideon
bible.etc.
They also have Gideon bible's in arabic.
McVeigh even left secret messages in the Gideon bible which FBI
confiscated for he had circled Wrath of God, was one item.

So code words - anyway, this stegnographia and my bible calendar code
devised by same person ..

What you see is what you get?   Gideon bibles are in arabic too.

So Michael my web tv would not pull up the highlighted story

If Osama was trained by CIA and this code was used by CIA and British
Inelligence - well what a communication system.

So those 7 Nazis at Spandau had a watchword bible calendar taken from
them by the Russians - said it was coded. Speer who designed the City of
Lights, or Building of Lights - mentioned this in his diary.

But the murderers of JFK this calender was involved and in sabotage of
Apollo, etc..a guiding hand with a gun and a panzer tank?

Even Hogarth used concealed stuff in his paintings.

Saba

Here is item on Tritemius - my old friend Sybil Leek said she had heard
of the calendar but had never seen it.

Nice item Mike but how would Osam bin Laden use this stuff anywayI
say this the FBI knows what the calendar is.  At least J Edgar Hoover
did and they do use astrology for instance full moon murder, etc.

Hogarth - these engravings hold secret masonic messages..




http://www.esotericarchives.com/tritheim/stegano.htm

[CTRL] Text of Netanyahu's Testimony to House Committee on Gov't Reform on September 20, 2001 Netanyahu's testimony on terrorism, September 20, 2001.doc [01/14]

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
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regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
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serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

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international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
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Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

[CTRL] Fwd: Desiderada-We Are The World

[Saba]

Now this is a stranage one - first this murder of the black doctor, he
had this Poem framed on his desk (he was murdered by one of Meyer
Lansky's hit men.I have referred to this before).

In this piece I sent to you re Trithemius if you note the name
Desiderada appers but I do not know the language to decipher the
material.  It was said this poem found in St Paul's Churchyard in
Marland - this is where the Calvert famly from which I descend or all in
the famly, lived - they were the Lord Baltimores of the day who left
that state to their descendents forever and look at it today, who would
want it.

Note this stuff Re Africa, We are the World.  About flipped on that one.

Anyway must add this - when this black doctor was murdered we were
waiting to go into our meeting when my old friend came in - rather
handsome young friend and I mean he was gorgeous.

Anyway, he asked me what I thought and I said I wish I had a copy of
this poem Desederada  for I had never read it.

Might add those people this DNA stuff, the feds dug up Philip Calvert's
body in St. Paul's Church yard to see what the air was like, and it ws a
solid lead casket.   Cecil Calvert I guess this was the son, do not
remember anymore - but they wanted to find out what the air was like
etc., which I thought horrible.

As I recall this is the same little church where Jefferson Davis and
Robert E. Lee used to go and I bet they had some secret stuff going on.

This poem means something more than we know  or maybe it means nothing,
but when I saw the name of this poem in the work of Trithemius if it is
the same thing or has double meaning - made me wonder.

Anyway, as I said I told this hansome man and he looked like a young
Gregory Peck with black hair and blue eyes, and raised in Ireland - I
told him I wished I had a copy of this poem - and he pulled out his bill
fold and handed me an old newspaper clipping many years old, and it was
that poem.   Someone once told me this man, was Mafia.   Who the hell
cares he was handsome.

So much for murder and concealed writings and handsome snoops .

Does this poem mean anything to you ??? Other than a beautiful poem?

That is addressed to you Mike Spitzer if you got this far.

When I saw that We Are the World attached to this poem it made me wonder
inasmuch much as Dr. Bond was blackand murdered and alleged to be in
drugs and other thanks.

These two doctors only wanted to castrate him and the hit man murdered
him (he had on a deputy sheriff uniform).so, finding this in St
Paul's Churchyard where Cecil Calver or Philip Calvert were buried.

But why would the Feds want their DNA?  My famly when I was little was
involved in a lawsuit to get our state back - for it was left to Lord
Baltimore's descendents FOREVER.

First thing I would do is secede from the Union and set up a monarchy.

O'Saba

Wonder why the BE CAREFUL was added on the poem.




http://www.angelcities.com/members/rhonda52/desiderada.htm

[CTRL] The dog that didn't bark: nuclear power plants

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With something like 103 nuclear power plants, this is something that should
give pause to all of us in terms of security from devastation. Folks in Ct.
are quite vulnerable. It's rather scary to reflect how close those two
planes from Boston did or could have come to our two nuclear power sites.
And how the sites stuck out like sore thumbs.
   Ken Humphrey


Nuclear Terrorism, Nuclear Safety
Harvey Wasserman, AlterNet
September 17, 2001
Viewed on September 24, 2001
---
Though few are now talking about it, atomic power is high on the list of
realities forever transformed by the terrorist nightmare of September 11.
Despite saturation media coverage, both the Bush administration and
mainstream commentators have been ominously silent about the most obvious
terrorist target of all: our 103 licensed commercial nuclear plants.
The four jetliners hijacked September 11 flew perilously close to at least a
dozen operating reactors, from Pilgrim, Millstone and Indian Point, between
Boston and New York, to Surry, North Anna and Calvert Cliffs near
Washington, to Peach Bottom, Limerick and Three Mile Island in Pennsylvania.
Though the industry has claimed the containment domes on such plants might
withstand a jet crash, no credible engineer would agree. In fact, it's
inconceivable any of them could survive a direct hit followed by a long
jet-fueled fire such as the ones that destroyed the World Trade Center.
And had the terrorists chosen to target one of those reactors instead of the
World Trade Center or the Pentagon, we would be talking about tens of
thousands of dead, hundreds of thousands -- if not millions -- of long-term
cancers, and hundreds of billions of dollars in property damage.
In short, a holocaust from which this nation might never recover.
Such fearful realities have been integral to the debate over nuclear power
since its inception. Early reactor opponents argued as early as the 1960s
that reactors in populated areas might be terrorist targets. In the 1970s an
airline hijacker talked about crashing into a nuclear facility. In the 1980s
the Ayatollah Khomeini threatened to hit nuclear targets inside the U.S.
In the early 1990s followers of Osama Bin Laden are believed to have trained
within a hundred miles of Three Mile Island.
In recent years, ground-level security at U.S. reactor sites has become
notoriously lax. Journalists and anti-nuke activists have easily penetrated
the environs of operating nukes. In many cases, a simple bomb or someone
wrecking random havoc inside a hijacked control room could do
Chernobyl-scale damage.
But now the prospect of an attack from the air has taken things to a new
level. Even in the unlikely event a containment dome could withstand a hit
from a jetliner, the ensuing fire would almost certainly lead to a meltdown
or explosion. Nor would it be necessary to hit the dome at all. Pools
holding thousands of tons of high-level fuel rods sit at most reactors sites
with no containment whatsoever. Merely disrupting their cooling systems
could cause a melt-down, as might an assault on turbine housings, emergency
power generators, communications systems and many other parts of the
immensely complex and fragile infrastructure that keeps nuclear plants from
turning rogue.
At least one type of newly proposed reactor -- the pebble bed design -- is
being offered with no containment at all. Small wonder those proposing to
build new atomic plants want Congress to approve an extension of federal
liability insurance, insulating them from the consequences of a catastrophic
accident. In other words, because no private insurer will take them on, the
industry wants taxpayer protection against paying for a disaster, one we now
see could all-too-easily come from terrorism even on a far less demanding
scale than what happened September 11.
And what would be the real consequences of such a disaster? Most American
reactors sit in areas that were once isolated, but which have now been
surrounded by suburban sprawl. Evacuation planning is threadbare and
essentially unworkable. Most mass escape schemes are built around the
expected lead-time offered by a mechanical failure, a luxury no terrorist
attack would provide.
Chernobyl Unit Four, which spewed an apocalyptic radioactive cloud over much
of Europe and into the jetstream (the fallout was detected across the
northern U.S. within 10 days), had been operating only for four years. Its
internal radioactive inventory was thus comparatively small.
Most U.S. reactors have operated far longer, and have accumulated far more
deadly radiation, both inside their containments and in the nearby spent
fuel pools. An explosion in any one of 

[CTRL] Broad new powers to track terrorists, all Americans

[Steve]

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Broad new powers to track terrorists, all Americans

Copyright Christian Science Monitor Service

By GAIL RUSSELL CHADDOCK, Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON (September 24, 2001 11:10 a.m. EDT) - Hoping to thwart
terrorists, Washington is on the verge of enacting - quickly - the most
sweeping changes in law enforcement in a generation - changes that will
touch the lives of almost every American.

A draft wish list from the Bush administration now circulating in Congress
asks for broad new powers to eavesdrop, control borders, and collect and
share information about citizens, students, and visitors to the United States.

At first glance, it looks as if most of the changes apply just to suspected
terrorists or those who support them. But experts say the impact could be
much broader.

People always think such new laws won't apply to them, but it's tough if you
get caught up in the dragnet, says Christopher Sands, director of the
Canada Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies here.

The impact of new laws and regulations will be most obvious to people
traveling or crossing borders. Passengers will find more metal detectors,
cameras, and checkpoints at airports. This means Americans can expect
fewer flights and more delays, indefinitely.

Along the U.S.-Canada border, where 200 million people cross each year,
the wait at checkpoints will also lengthen dramatically. Concern about the
number of Islamic extremists entering the U.S. from north of the border has
already forced authorities to tighten security.

Now the screening is set to get even more stringent, threatening to create
gridlock.

What will be less obvious in its impact - but no less far reaching - are
congressional moves to allow the government to accumulate more
information about the movements, beliefs and financial transactions of its
citizens. This includes giving authorities more power to detain and prosecute
people.

We need these tools to fight the terrorist threat which exists in the United
States, said Attorney General John Ashcroft last week.

Terrorist experts say there are tough tradeoffs involved in many of these new
provisions. For example, the use of cameras with face recognition software
around airports and public places can help track terrorists. Yet it also gives
government the capacity to track all citizens.

We might have to give the government much more access to our personal
goings-on to protect our overall security, says Michael Swetnam, president
of the Potomac Institute for Policy Studies, a nonprofit group here.

Many of the items on the attorney general's wish list have been a goal of law-
enforcement officials for years, but were blocked by Congress because of
concerns that they violated civil liberties.

But the massive security break that produced the Sept. 11 attacks has
changed the climate in Washington so dramatically that much on this list is
expected to pass into law quickly.

One of the first bills expected to move through Congress is the
administration's request for broader wiretap authority. Current federal law
allows authorities to tap the phone of a suspect. The attorney general wants
authority to track conversations of suspected terrorists across any state - on
any phone, pay phone or cellphone that the suspect may use - including e-
mail and unanswered voice-messages.

By casting a broader net, law-enforcement officials hope to be able to track
terrorists who change cell phones and venues frequently. But civil rights
groups warn that the conversations of many Americans unrelated to terrorists
could also be picked up in the process.

Every year, 2 million communications are intercepted involving people who
weren't even suspected of any crimes, according to the government's own
data, says Nadine Strossen, president of the American Civil Liberties
Union. That number would be increased exponentially under the new law,
because it allows roving wiretaps that follow that person to any telephone that
person might use.

When the Clinton administration sought broader wiretap authority in 1994,
Congress balked. But lawmakers this time seem inclined to move it through
quickly.

Two days after the assault on the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon, the
Senate passed by voice vote an amendment that gives government new
authority to search the contents of computers.

Some senators were alarmed that such a controversial and far-reaching
measure passed with no hearings and little debate.

Maybe that will make us feel safer, says Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont,
chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who opposed the amendment.
Maybe. And maybe what the terrorists have done made us a little bit less
safe. Maybe they have increased Big Brother in this country.

Other requests to be taken up by Congress in the next two weeks include:

Granting the attorney general discretion to detain any individual determined
to pose a threat to national security. Such a decision could only be

Re: [CTRL] Broad new powers to track terrorists, all Americans

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--- Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Washington is on the verge of enacting -  quickly -
 the most sweeping changes in law enforcement in a
 generation - changes that will touch the lives of
 almost every American.
...the Sept. 11 attacks have changed the climate in
Washington so dramatically that much on this list is
expected to pass into law quickly.

Nakano comments:
Hmmm...seems like we have seen this movie before.
For those old enough to remember, the attack
on Pearl Harbor dramatically changed the
climate in the U.S. about like this has done.
The Real Agenda is now being revealed.
Our Republic can survive terrorist attacks,
but it may not survive these broad new powers
now being sought by Bush.

 A draft wish list from the Bush administration now
 circulating in Congress asks for broad new powers to
 eavesdrop, control borders, and collect and
 share information about citizens, students, and
 visitors to the United States.There's no question
 that a concerted attempt is being pursued to take
 advantage of the attack as an opening for government
 to secure a wide  variety of powers that it has
 raised over the years, says Tom Devine, legal
 director of the Washington-based Government
 Accountability Project.
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 Granting the attorney general discretion to detain any individual determined
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[CTRL] America’s War Coalition Flip Flops

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America’s War Coalition Flip Flops

24 September: DEBKAfile’s expertsoffer a short guide to the maneuvers
surrounding America’s attempts to build an international bloc of supporters
for its war against terrorism.

First-line backers:  Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany, France, Russia,
Turkey and Pakistan.

Second-line Support (nations rendering military, intelligence, logistic and
medical aid and rear bases to the first-line members): Israel, Uzbekistan,
Tadjikistan, India.

Where Are the Arab Nations?
As the hours slip by, the Arab nations are increasing the distance between
themselves and President Bush’s war on terrorism, for a variety of reasons:

Saudi Arabia:  Saudi Arabia’s denial of support is the bitterest setback
Washingtonsuffered since deciding on its military operation, forcing the Bush
administration to put its planned assault on Baghdad on hold. Suddenly, the
Americans had to cast about for new forward bases in place of the new
combined air operations command center at Prince Sultan Air Base near Riyadh,
which was to have been the central command post for directing air attacks
from bases around the region in the Gulf and Southwest Asian regions.

The Saudis feared an US offensive against Iraq, launched from a base on their
soil, would expose their cities to strikes by Iraqi missiles bearing
chemical, biological and even possibly nuclear warheads. As the Gulf
linchpin, the Saudis forced Arab Emirates, such as Kuwait, Bahrain and Oman
who were willing to join forces with the United States, to follow their lead
and back out of the US-led alliance. America is to be allowed to maintain
military forces in their territory and carry on staff functions – but not to
launch attacks.

Egypt: President Hosni Mubarak has from the first objected to the war
coalition being led by the United States and demanded it be placed under the
aegis of the United Nations. This was a pretext. Mubarak’s rationale for
staying out of the war alliance is simple: He knows that at some point in the
campaign, Egypt, like other Arab nations, will be handed a list of domestic
radical Islamic terrorist groups – led by the Egyptian Jihad Islami, Osama
Bin Laden’s senior partner – to which will be attached an American demand to
terminate their operations. This Mubarak cannot afford to do, because any
such move would unite all of Egypt’s teeming Islamic militant groups and
sects in active opposition to his regime.

Syria:   Syria has the same problem as Egypt. The United States has already
handed President Bashar Assad an ultimatum to be met if Syria wants to be
removed from the list of states sponsoring terrorism. Before anything else,
he must sever his economic and military ties with Saddam Hussein’s Iraq -
which is deemed a terrorist state – and with the Lebanese Shiite Hizballah.
In the second stage, Syria will be asked to extradite to the United States
Hizballah leaders and operations chiefs, as well as activists of the
Palestinian radical and Islamic groups - the Fronts, the Hamas and the Jihad
Islami - while outlawing those groups.

Feeling his back was to the wall, Assad hurried over to Egypt and Saudi
Arabia over the weekend to demand their support for defying Washington’s
demands.

Palestinians:  Yasser Arafat understands he is cornered. He knows perfectly
well that the groups he activates in his campaign against Israel – the
Palestinian Authority’s “Preventive Security” services, his own Fatah-Tanzim,
Force 17, the Jihad Islami and the Hamas, qualify as terrorist organizations
by US standards and therefore targets to be crushed. Arafat hoped that with
the help of Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres, he could sanitize his
terrorist groups without halting their war against Israel; once Washington
accepted the Palestinian Authority as a partner in its coalition, those
groups would be safe.

The Saudi withdrawal upset Arafat’s applecart. Now, he dare not line up with
Washington in the opposite camp to the Saudi-Egyptian-Syrian grouping. His
tactics for survival entail a low-key terror campaign against Israeli targets
that is careful to fall short of provoking a strong US or Israeli response,
while leaving him squarely within the inter-Arab consensus.

Iran:  The dual problem with the rulers of Tehran is their active sponsorship
of one of the most powerful, effective and zealous terrorist groups in the
Middle East, the Hizballah, plus the fact that Iran’s supreme leader,
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, personally runs what the Iranians call intelligence
agencies, but which the Americans regard as terrorist groups, pure and
simple.

One of Khamenei’s key “intelligence” aides is also one of America’s deadliest
enemies, the notorious Hizballah hostage-taker of Lebanon in the eighties,
Imad Mughniyeh.

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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http://www.house.gov/reform/statement_of_netanyahu.htm


Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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http://www.house.gov/reform/statement_of_netanyahu.htm


Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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http://www.house.gov/reform/statement_of_netanyahu.htm


Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
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well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

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Iran's media denounce British 'meddling'
By Jim Muir in Teheran
(Filed: 25/09/2001)
THE arrival of Jack Straw, the Foreign Secretary, in Teheran last
night was denounced by hard-line clerics and media as yet another
instance of traditional British meddling in Iran's affairs.
Once again, the bad smell of the British, ran a headline in the
hardline Jomhuri-e-Eslami newspaper. Another declared: The British
cannot be trusted.
Demonstrators outside the British Embassy yesterday were chanting
Death to America, death to Britain before police dragged them away.
Their sentiments and those in the media reflected an old Persian
proverb which says: If something happens, it is the work of the
English.
From the 1906 constitutional revolution and the deposition of Reza
Shah in 1941, to the CIA-backed coup which protected British oil
interests in 1953 and the 1979 revolution itself, many Iranians have
blamed Britain for being behind it.
The revolution could not have happened without British backing,
said one. It served their interest.
Look under a mullah's cloak and you will see 'made in England',
Iranians delight in telling visiting Britons.
Some even are suggesting that the deadly suicide attacks on New York
and Washington were crafted by the ever-cunning British. The
explosions in America cannot be analysed without taking a look at the
behind-the-scenes hands of the British, one commentator was reported
to have said last week.
The aim of these explosions was to pull America down from its unique
superpower position and to rejuvenate Britain's past rule over the
world, he said.
Iranian newspapers yesterday pointed out that America also accuses
Iran of sponsoring state terrorism. It should be said that Iran
occupies a permanent place on the list officially issued by the
United States of the countries which support terrorism, the
conservative Kayhan International paper said.
The hue and cry now raised by Washington against terrorism . . .
cannot be readily acceptable as long as America supports Israel which
is dealing in the most inhumane and barbaric ways with the whole
nation of Palestine, it said.
The reformist Iran Daily said that although Washington was seeking
Iran's military co-operation against Afghanistan, it also wanted
Teheran to revise its Palestinian policy.
It is obvious that the Iranian nation considers spiritual support
for Palestinians a fundamental principle. But Iran also draws a clear
line between the legitimate struggle of Palestinians for their
motherland and fighting terrorism, it said.
The English-language Teheran Times commented: London's diplomacy is
doomed to failure as long as it sides with a bullying and belligerent
figure like Bush.


Related reports
Straw's trip to Teheran infuriates Israelis
External links
Dailies analyse Straw's visit to Tehran [24 Sep '01] - Islamic
Republic News Agency
Middle East Media Research Institute


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Straw's trip to Teheran infuriates Israelis
By Anton La Guardia and Patrick Bishop in Jerusalem
(Filed: 25/09/2001)
JACK STRAW, the Foreign Secretary, was denounced from both ends of
the Middle East political spectrum yesterday as he prepared for a
landmark visit to Iran.
Hours before he was due in Teheran for the first visit by a British
Foreign Secretary since the fall of the Shah 22 years ago, Israeli
officials accused Mr Straw of sticking a knife in Israel's back by
visiting one of its most vehement enemies.
He was also criticised by Israel for a despicable article he wrote
in the Iranian press arguing that anger over the Palestinian
situation had helped to breed terrorism.
Baton-wielding riot police outside the British embassy in Teheran
broke up a demonstration by dozens of Iranian hardliners who chanted:
Death to America, death to Britain.
Mr Straw hopes his trip will help secure Iran's support for an
international coalition against terrorism, and for strikes against
Osama bin Laden and his Afghan hosts.
The backing of Iran, whose revolution in 1979 inspired Islamic
uprisings around the world, would help dispel the notion that the
West planned a crusade against Islam.
But Mr Straw caused anger in Israel for an article saying: I
understand that one of the factors that helps breed terrorism is the
anger which many people in the region feel at events over the years
in Palestine.
Raanan Gissin, spokesman for the Israeli prime minister, Ariel
Sharon, said: It's despicable and it's simply wrong. I've never seen
such a bunch of lies garbled together.
I've no doubt that it's malicious . . . I would expect the foreign
minister of Libya or Iran to write such an article, but not the
foreign minister of 

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newyorkpo0924sep24.story
Poll: Third of New Yorkers support internment camps for some
By MARC HUMBERT
Associated Press Writer
September 24, 2001
ALBANY, N.Y. --


 One third of New Yorkers favor establishing
internment camps for individuals who authorities identify as being
sympathetic to terrorist causes, according to a poll from the Siena
College Research Institute.
Fifty percent of those surveyed for the statewide poll said they were
opposed to that idea while 15 percent had no opinion.
The telephone poll of 610 New York state residents over age 18 was
conducted from Sept. 12, the day after the terrorist attacks on the
World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon, through Sept. 19. The
poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
The poll found 75 percent of respondents felt terrorist attacks would
continue and 40 percent said they were very concerned they or family
members could become victims.
Forty-six percent said the attacks make it less likely they will use commercial 
flights even though two-thirds of those surveyed said they believe the airlines can be 
made safe from terrorism. Ninety percent said undercov
er, armed security guards should be put on the planes.
Internment camps have been controversial since World War II when the United States 
ordered thousands of Japanese-Americans into such facilities.
Douglas Lonnstrom, director of the research institute, said that given that World War 
II experience he found it startling that 34 percent of those polled supported the 
creation of new internment camps.
Lonnstrom said he didn't know if those questioned equated the phrase
sympathetic to terrorist causes to Arab-Americans.
But James Zogby, president of the Washington-based Arab American
Institute, said, You have to be very careful how you go down this
road of defining sympathies. I think it's dangerous.
Zogby said creation of such camps would be unconstitutional, but that
he wasn't surprised by the poll's findings.
In the current context, when you ask that question you're going to
get that kind of response, Zogby said. I would say if you asked
people, `Should terrorist sympathizers have their toenails forcibly
plucked from their toes?', you would probably get something akin to
that.
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The
  Coming US Fascism
In
  1944 the Old Right journalist John T. Flynn wrote:
The
  test of fascism is not one’s rage against the Italian
and German war lords. The test is – how many of the essential
principles of
  fascism do you accept and to what extent are you
prepared to apply
  those fascist ideas to American social and economic
life? When you
  can put your finger on the men or the groups that urge
for America
  the debt-supported state, the autarchial corporative
state, the
  state bent on the socialization of investment and the
bureaucratic
  government of industry and society, the establishment
of the institution
  of militarism as the great glamorous public-works
project of the
  nation and the institution of imperialism under which
it proposes
  to regulate and rule the world and, along with this,
proposes to
  alter the forms of our government to approach as
closely as possible
  the unrestrained, absolute government – then you will
know you have
  located the authentic fascist.
But
  let us not deceive ourselves into thinking that we are
dealing by this means with the problem of fascism. Fascism will come
at the hands of perfectly authentic Americans, as violently against
Hitler
  and Mussolini as the next one, but who are convinced that the present 
economic system is washed up and that the present political system
  in America has outlived its usefulness and who wish to commit this 
country to the rule of the bureaucratic state; interfering in the
  affairs of the states and cities; taking part in the management
  of industry and finance and agriculture; assuming the role of great
  national banker and investor, borrowing millions every year and
  spending them on all sorts of projects through which such a government
  can paralyze opposition and command public support; marshaling great
  armies and navies at crushing costs to support the industry of war
  and preparation for war which will become our greatest industry;
  and adding to all this the most romantic adventures in global planning,
  regeneration, and domination all to be done under the authority
  of a powerfully centralized government in which the executive will
  hold in effect all the powers with Congress reduced to the role
  of a debating society. There is your fascist. And the sooner America
  realizes this dreadful fact the sooner it will arm itself to make
  an end of American fascism masquerading under the guise of the champion
  of democracy.
It
  should be equally clear that all this is in no sense communism
  [A] reason for the confusion is the character of the men who are
  authentic and honest New Dealers but who were not communists
  They began to flirt with the alluring pastime of reconstructing
  the capitalist system. They became the architects of a new capitalist
  system. And in the process of this new career they began to fashion
  doctrines that turned out to be the principles of fascism. Of course
  they do not call them fascism, although some of them frankly see
  the resemblance. But they are not disturbed, because they know that
  they will never burn books, they will never hound
  the Jews or the Negroes, they will never resort to assassination
  and suppression. What will turn up in their hands will be a very
  genteel and dainty and pleasant form of fascism which cannot be
  called fascism at all because it will be so virtuous and polite. (As
  We Go Marching [Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday, Doran 
  Co., 1944], pp. 252-255.)
In
  1969, at the height of the so-called Sixties, a New Right essayist – 
alarmed, apparently, that Jane Fonda still enjoyed freedom of
  speech and that college administrators were too spineless to have
  the police clear student radicals out of their offices – called
  for some variety of expediential fascism:
The
  very nature of the situation creates competing codes and doctrines
  extreme in content and alien to the balancing compromises of liberal
  polity. The stringent demands of such a rudimentary struggle of power 
and ideas invites political approaches that are totalitarian
  in nature: not quite in the original fascist sense that puts all
  aspects of life under the aegis of political authority, 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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http://www.house.gov/reform/statement_of_netanyahu.htm


Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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http://www.house.gov/reform/statement_of_netanyahu.htm


Statement of former Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu before the =
Government Reform Committee September 20, 2001=20

Chairman Burton, Distinguished Representatives,=20

I want to thank you for inviting me to appear before you today. I feel a =
profound responsibility addressing you in this hour of peril in the =
capital of liberty.=20

What is at stake today is nothing less than the survival of our =
civilization. There may be some who would have thought a week ago that =
to talk in these apocalyptic terms about the battle against =
international terrorism was to engage in reckless exaggeration. No =
longer.=20

Each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our =
cities are vulnerable, and that our values are hated with an unmatched =
fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.=20

I am certain that I speak on behalf of my entire nation when I say - =
Today, we are all Americans - in grief, as in defiance.=20

In grief, because my people have faced the agonizing horrors of terror =
for many decades, and we feel an instant kinship with both the victims =
of this tragedy and the great nation that mourns its fallen brothers and =
sisters.=20

In defiance, because just as my country continues to fight terrorism in =
our battle for survival, I know that America will not cower before this =
challenge.=20

I have absolute confidence that if we, the citizens of the free world, =
led by President Bush, marshall the enormous reserves of power at our =
disposal, harness the steely resolve of a free people, and mobilize our =
collective will - we shall eradicate this evil from the face of the =
earth.=20

But to achieve this goal, we must first however answer several =
questions: Who is responsible for this terrorist onslaught? Why? What is =
the motive behind these attacks? And most importantly, what must be done =
to defeat these evil forces?=20

The first and most crucial thing to understand is this: There is no =
international terrorism without the support of sovereign states. =
International terrorism simply cannot be sustained for long without the =
regimes that aid and abet it.=20

Terrorists are not suspended in mid-air. They train, arm and =
indoctrinate their killers from within safe havens on territory provided =
by terrorist states. Often these regimes provide the terrorists with =
intelligence, money and operational assistance, dispatching them to =
serve as deadly proxies to wage a hidden war against more powerful =
enemies.=20

These regimes mount a worldwide propaganda campaign to legitimize =
terror, besmirching its victims and exculpating its practitioners --- as =
we witnessed in the farcical spectacle in Durban last month.=20

Iran, Libya, and Syria call the US and Israel racist countries that =
abuse human rights?=20

Even Orwell could not have imagined such a world.=20

Take away all this state support, and the entire scaffolding of =
international terrorism will collapse into the dust.=20

The international terrorist network is thus based on regimes - Iran, =
Iraq, Syria, Taleban Afghanistan, Yasser Arafat=92s Palestinian =
Authority and several other Arab regimes such as the Sudan.=20

These regimes are the ones that harbor the terrorist groups: Osama Bin =
Laden in Afghanistan, Hizballah and others in Syrian-controlled Lebanon, =
Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the recently mobilized Fatah and Tanzim =
factions in the Palestinian territories, and sundry other terror =
organizations based in such capitals as Damascus, Baghdad and Khartoum.=20

These terrorist states and terror organizations together form a terror =
network, whose constituent parts support each other operationally as =
well as politically.=20

For example, the Palestinian groups cooperate closely with Hezbollah, =
which in turn links them to Syria, Iran and Bin Laden.=20

These offshoots of terror have 

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[CTRL] U.S. considering targeting Taliban drug trade

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Pakistan would like to get their hands on more opium in order to pay off huge
debt. CIA likes this idea. Don't expect drug imports to US to decline anytime
soon. Rember Vietnam (great increase in heroin imports) and Guatamala
(huge increase in Cocaine imports).  I guess the CIA needs more money too.
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U.S. considering targeting Taliban drug trade

September 24, 2001 Posted: 7:38 PM EDT (2338 GMT)

By Jamie McIntyre CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Pentagon officials have targeted illicit-drug
production facilities in Afghanistan to cut off the Taliban militia's funding,
sources told CNN Monday.

Striking at drug facilities is one option military planners are considering as
they devise ways military force could be used to pressure the Taliban, a
senior Pentagon official said.

This is like a football coach having a lot of plays in his play book, the official
said. Drug facilities in Afghanistan are on the list of potential targets, the
source said.

Officials are investigating a full spectrum of options in dealing with the
Taliban, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld confirmed Monday.

We're intent on altering behavior, Rumsfeld said at a Pentagon briefing.
We're intent on attempting to take the steps so that the American people
and our interests and friends and allies and deployed forces can go about
our business not in fear.

Illicit drug trade is the primary source of revenue for the Taliban, bringing it an
estimated $50 million a year, U.S. officials say. The Bush administration is
trying to squeeze the finances of terrorist groups in general -- Osama bin
Laden's al Qaeda in particular -- by freezing their assets and cutting off their
sources of revenue.

CIA analysts say Afghanistan in 1999 led the world in the illicit production of
opium, the substance from which heroin is derived.

This year, say U.S. officials, the Taliban banned the cultivation of poppies,
the source of opium. The ban apparently has been effective: Almost no
poppies are growing in Taliban-controlled regions of Afghanistan, sources
say.

Still, say analysts, evidence suggests the Taliban have huge stockpiles of
poppies, sufficient to keep cash flowing.

The ban apparently has not harmed Afghanistan's drug production, according
to the CIA, whose fact book lists Afghanistan as major source of hashish.
Increasing numbers of heroin-processing laboratories are setting up in the
country, and major Afghan political factions profit from their illicit activities,
the fact book says.


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[CTRL] Sharon's Olive Branch

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From
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/2001/0925/wor11.htm

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Tuesday, September  25,  2001
Sharon promises Palestinians statehood
From David Horovitz, in Jerusalem
A day after he blocked ceasefire talks between his Foreign Minister,
Mr Shimon Peres, and the Palestinian Authority President Mr Yasser
Arafat, the Israeli Prime Minister Mr Ariel Sharon yesterday issued
an extraordinary endorsement of independent Palestinian statehood,
but said the Palestinians first had to stop the terrorism, to live
in peace, to live in calm.


Israel, said Mr Sharon, would do everything to achieve a true and
open peace and wants to give the Palestinians what no one else has
heretofore given them - the possibility of establishing a state.
Though vague as to the dimensions of such an independent state, Mr.
Sharon's comments, which prompted furious criticism from the Israeli
right and no little bemusement on the left, were remarkable given
that he was once a firm opponent of Palestinian statehood in any part
of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
The speech was entirely unexpected, too, given that, on Sunday, Mr Sharon had 
prevented Mr Peres from holding the first in a scheduled series of meetings with Mr 
Arafat - meetings designed to pave the way for peace negoti
ations culminating, presumably, in Palestinian statehood.
Palestinian gunmen yesterday shot dead an Israeli woman in the West Bank - and while 
responsibility for the killing was claimed by the Islamic Jihad group, which is openly 
flouting Mr Arafat's ceasefire call, aides to Mr
Sharon blamed the Palestinian president, insisting he had failed to confront Islamic 
militants. Nevertheless, a fragile ceasefire still appeared to be holding in most 
parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
Mr Arafat yesterday traveled to Jordan, and today is set to visit Syria. Mr Sharon and 
Mr Peres, who were at loggerheads over Sunday's cancelled meeting, have now agreed 
that the Peres-Arafat talks can be held any time af
ter Mr Arafat returns and after the Jewish Day of Atonement on Thursday - provided 
relative quiet prevails on the ground.
Mr Arafat had been scheduled to visit Damascus on September 12th, but cancelled the 
trip in the wake of the previous day's terror attacks in the United States - 
presumably to avoid stirring American anger at his presence
in a state charged by the US with sponsoring terror. His decision now to proceed with 
the visit, which marks the completion of a gradual process of reconciliation, comes 
amid Syrian condemnation of the September 11th terr
orism, and declared American readiness to have both Syria and the Palestinian 
Authority included in an anti-terror coalition.
Mr Sharon's remarks about statehood, and his consent to a Peres-Arafat meeting, would 
appear calculated to mollify the Americans, who are urging both Israel and the PA to 
ensure that there is no escalation of their confli
ct to distract from the war on terror. Mr Dan Kurtzer, the US Ambassador here, said 
pointedly yesterday that the Bush Administration wanted the meeting held very, very 
soon. In further conciliatory remarks, aides to the
 Prime Minister said last night they believed Mr Arafat was now making a determined 
effort to enforce the ceasefire.
Still, Israel is now demanding the arrest or the transfer for trial of Mr Marwan 
Barghouti, who heads Mr Arafat's Fatah faction in the West Bank and is alleged by 
Israel to have organised a series of shooting attacks on W
est Bank roads.
Israeli leaders are also urging Mr Arafat to close down an exhibit opened yesterday by 
pro-Hamas students at Nablus's al-Najah university, which depicts the August 9th Hamas 
suicide bombing of the Sbarro pizza restaurant
in Jerusalem, in which 15 people were killed. The exhibit, which features a careful 
replication of the restaurant, complete with store sign and pizza pieces, encourages 
visitors to carry out similar acts.
To the west of Nablus on the edge of the West Bank, meanwhile, the Israeli army 
yesterday closed off a strip of territory along the pre-1967 border, or Green Line, 
extending 30 km to Jenin - declaring the area a closed
 military zone. Palestinian officials branded the move collective punishment; the 
army said it was designed to prevent the entry to Israel of potential suicide bombers. 
Perhaps more significantly, on the day where Mr Sha
ron spoke explicitly of Palestinian statehood, it signaled the de
facto construction of part of an Israeli-Palestinian border.




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