[CTRL] Deus Ex B52
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 13/A - The Laissez Faire City Times March 29, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 13 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Deus Ex B52 by Craig Goodrich Now let me make sure you understand this. It's pretty complicated. Listen closely. We've got troops (i.e. young Americans who have volunteered to risk their lives defending American freedom and independence, in exchange for the chance to learn electronic repair and how to drive tanks) in Bosnia because the Bosnian Muslims were mistakenly included in Yugoslavia by the victorious allies when they broke up Austria-Hungary in 1918. Or maybe the Austro-Hungarians made the mistake when they took Bosnia and Herzegovena from the Ottoman Turkish Empire in 1906 and gave it a hyphenated name because the Austrians spoke German and like to shove words together, like Austro-Hungarian. Anyway, Woodrow Wilson and the boys shoved the people together, and that was definitely a mistake. Herzegovena was inhabited by Croats, who are basically Serbs who are Catholics instead of Orthodox and who write their dialect of Serbian using Latin letters instead of Cyrillic. This looks less funny to us, so they must be the good guys and the Serbians are bad. (Maybe it's that the Serbians write their dialect of Croatian in those weird Russian letters, which is even more perverse; they're definitely the Bad Guys.) So we bravely sided with the Bosnians and the Croats against Serbia, until the Croats cheated by massacring Bosnians. That's why we had to send in troops, right, because everybody was massacring Bosnians? And the Bosnians couldn't fight back because the UN wouldn't let anybody sell them guns, on the grounds that if nobody had guns nobody could shoot anybody there. Somehow the UN forgot that the Serbians and the Croats already had lots of guns; only the Bosnians really needed them. OK, so now three years or so after our strictly limited one-year peacekeeping mission to save the noble Bosnians (who only go out and slaughter Serbs and Croats when they manage to get guns) from the Evil Serbs (who already have lots of guns and so slaughter Croats and Bosnians all the time) and the Semi-Evil Croats (who slaughter Serbs whenever they can but would rather slaughter Bosnians because they don't have so many guns) -- after all this time, we still have Our Brave Boys (and Girls, and, er, don't ask, don't tell) over there Doing a Wonderful Job of Nation-Building. (Hello, Montgomery Ward? I'd like three nice custom-built Nations, please. Yes, deluxe, peaceful with lovely mountains. You guarantee one-year delivery, right? Faaantastic. My VISA card number is .) We're still there after three years, of course, because as soon as we leave, some of the Bosnians might get guns and start to slaughter the Serbs, who will start to slaughter the Croats and Bosnians as soon as we leave, using the excuse that the Croats have started to slaughter the Serbians and even some Bosnians without guns because the Bosnians who have guns are slaughtering Croats and Serbians. Fine. Just fine. I think I'm starting to understand it. Now Albania, just southwest of Serbia, I mean Yugoslavia, I mean Serbia, has been slaughtering anybody who tried to climb in over their mountains for at least the last thousand years. In the off-season they practice by slaughtering each other. They still hate the Turks for invading them in 1388, so even though they're all Muslims because of half a millennium of Turkish rule, they still slaughter Turks every chance they get. They will run across the street for a chance to slaughter a Turk (and in Tirana this is more dangerous than mountain climbing). Some Albanians, though, live in Kosovo, which is part of Yugoslavia, I mean Serbia. They want to live in Albania instead of Yugoslavia, because they're not Slavs and besides there's less sport in slaughtering Slavs when you're part of their country. So there's a Marxist guerrilla group fighting for independence for Kosovo so it can immediately join Albania, which got rid of its own Marxists in 1991. The Serbs, meanwhile, being Bad Guys, since they can't slaughter quite as many Bosnians and Croats while the Yankees are watching, have decided to slaughter Kosovar Albanians instead, both for the Glory of Serbian History -- the Serbs heroically fought the Turks there in 1389; Kosovo is to Serbs what the Alamo is to Texans, except that the Serbs lost the war and were part of the Turkish Empire for the next 400 years -- and because several thousand Serbs moved there in 1995 when they got tired of living in Croatia and being slaughtered. So now we've got the Bad Guys not letting some Marxist guerillas break up their country, and obviously we have to do something to make everybody sit down and talk it over in calm reasonable
[CTRL] Political Economy 301: The American Class System
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 13/A - The Laissez Faire City Times March 29, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 13 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Political Economy 301: The American Class System Prerequisite: Healthy Realistic Iconoclasm 300 Fundamental Issues, Part 2 by Robert L. Kocher New Deal programs such as social security began a personal economic relationship between individuals and government. These programs established the principle that it is a governmental function not only to provide money for public works and the common defense, but also to provide money to individuals in periods of national economic crisis or to provide certain social assurances and safety nets. Once established, the principle could be expanded. All those who were said to be victims of circumstance or past injustice became entitled to aid. Concurrently, under sociological and social-psychological doctrines of absolute environmental predeterminism, all present behavior and present circumstances were argued as being the result of past environment. This has produced three consequences: 1. Those who live in unpleasant present circumstances were, and are, viewed as being blameless victims twice-over. They are victims first of their predetermining earlier experience, and now, once again, victims of the consequences of that experience. The more unreasonable or indifferent they are to pleas to employ responsibility in their lives, the more proof it is they are distorted victims and qualify for, or need, aid. For those who pursue the role of rescuers, this argument has an appeal. However, it's important not to be blind to manipulative cynicism on the part of the person being rescued. It's equally important not to attempt to enforce such blindness on your friends and neighbors. 2. Those people who are living reasonable and successful lives, no matter how hard they may have worked, are doing so merely as a result of accidental predetermining happenstance. They therefore have no more deserving moral entitlement to the positive fruits of their lives (the argument goes) than those who were predetermined by disadvantaged background have personal responsibility for their present circumstances. This leads to the interpretation of any economic or social differences resulting from behavior as being economic injustice --economic injustice which many theorists and practitioners feel completely justified in acting against. Any limits upon arbitrary and wanton dispossession and redistribution of the efforts of the serious and industrious as a method of eliminating this economic injustice have become looked upon as barely tolerable temporary concessions to a lag in implementation between the legal/economic system and sociological concepts. The only barrier to complete moral and legal disenfranchisement of those who live reasonably and successfully is viewed as a matter of hated recalcitrant right-wing cultural lag. 3. In the exclusive focus upon predetermining factors, neither present irresponsible behavior nor present unreason become subjects for discussion. More often there is a process called "Finding the Root Causes" which consists of tracing an endless string of hypothetical predetermining factors to some comfortable arbitrary point of conclusion which satisfies the unspoken requirement of a resulting love-in. At that point the root causes are declared to have been found, and further discussion ends. During this process, the people whose behavior is under discussion are able to sit happily and complacently observing the discussion with little fear of contracting personal obligation, of experiencing corrective discomfort or criticism, or of incurring direct demands for change in their behavior. Those who are the subject of the analysis have come to enjoy the analytical process and have become wholehearted participants. Indeed, they are now looked upon and treated as august sociological dignitaries or emissaries possessing special authoritative knowledge and experience. As such, they direct the course of analysis to suit and benefit themselves. Meanwhile, people who have led responsible and successful lives are disqualified from saying anything because their observations are considered too disturbing to the atmosphere of bland dishonesty. Irresponsibility as a Civil Right Irresponsibility has come to be dealt with in an exclusively indirect and theoretical manner with little direct honest confrontation of the behavior and little intervention in the behavior within a pluralistic society that now declares all variations of irresponsibility and irrationality to be a civil right. There is a nearly complete climate of protection of the behavior and of diversion from confrontation. There is a point at which exclusive sociological analysis
[CTRL] Questions About the Right to Die
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 13/A - The Laissez Faire City Times March 29, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 13 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Questions About the "Right to Die" by Peter Topolewski There is an ironic and distinct possibility that by the next mid-century, when the average life span in the West has hit 150 and sex for all the old cronies jacked-up on Viagra is again a bore, the generation taken closer than any before it to the cusp of immortality could be begging with all its youthful spirit for a quick death. If right to death proponents of the future hope to have any success arguing on behalf of healthy seniors sick of living, theyll need to make significant improvements upon the euthanasia campaign of the 20th century. This campaign was born of nebulous arguments that have continually failed logical and ethical trial, and we see that today killing in mercy has become the monstrosity opponents warned us about, and which proponents assured us could never happen. Despite proponents platitudes to the contrary, euthanasia studies from Holland indicate that euthanasia was never about just the terminally ill, and the motives seem to have little to do with mercy or a persons right to choose death. The pro-euthanasia argument generally centers upon two key ideas. The first is a persons right to die. This right has been established upon a heap of groundless assumptions, beginning with the characterization that the right to die has evolved from the right to life. The right to die is apparently, as is the right to life, an absolute right of the individual, and as such entitles the individual with absolute autonomy. Euthanasia proponents ignore the philosophical question of how individuals having no part in their initial existence can lay claim to such rights that is, they refuse to address from where such rights might originate. Even discounting this problem, there remain conspicuously unanswered questions of how the right to die evolved from the right to life, and on what grounds it can be called absolute. In a society of equals, how can an individual claim absolute autonomy? These questions do not often arise in euthanasia debates. And the less the better, it seems, for proponents, for then discussion generally focuses on what has become the heart of euthanasia: why those wishing to exercise it must be mercifully granted their right to death. We are told that no matter our preconceptions, the 20th century doctors job is not to preserve life but above all to relieve suffering by all means available to him. Inducing death is of course a "means" to relieve suffering, and proponents justify this by proffering definitions of suffering. Unmitigated pain is probably the most significant component of suffering, but one that is admittedly subjective and dependent upon the sufferer's assessment. One of the first people assisted in suicide under Oregons new euthanasia law was, according to the first doctor who examined her, not suffering from pain but depression. With assisted suicide advocates working diligently, the woman was quickly enough led to doctors more open to believing her side of the story. She met her end shortly thereafter. Mental distress is another form of suffering that euthanasia seeks to relieve. Loss of control over bodily functions (which can be measured) and loss of cognitive existence (which cannot) lead to a sense of diminished dignity of life, say euthanasia advocates. The feeling that the dignity of ones life has diminished is entirely non-quantifiable, but nevertheless it is a feeling that in all likelihood nearly the entire population of the world has felt at one time or another. We are reminded, however, that when wondering which life to preserve and which to terminate, doctors (but first society in general) must consider the quality of the life in question. Never mind the droves of starving and diseased throughout the Third World, the average skid row resident in our very own cities has the right, it seems, to a doctor inquiring as to their desire to die a merciful death. Those in favor of euthanasia claim that when deciding who stays and who goes, the doctor must differentiate between living and (mere) existence, though no empirical difference between these has ever been established. Presumably the difference lies in ones capacity to contribute to ones physical, intellectual, and spiritual well being. The capacity to contribute to two of three of these is wholly immeasurable. Although the criteria for euthanasia appear to leave the mercy killing door open to almost all comers as it should if people are to have freedom to exercise their absolute right to die proponents assure the non-believers that proper rules are in place to ensure only qualified candidates
[CTRL] Are They Really Libertarian?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 13/A - The Laissez Faire City Times March 29, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 13 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Are They Really Libertarian? by Sunni Maravillosa I first came across a curious attitude in someones e-mail signature, which read, "The people of [X state] are libertarianthey just dont know it yet". At the time it seemed a rather presumptuous statement, particularly from someone whos a libertarian. I attributed it to a somewhat naïve optimism and didnt give the matter any more thought. Then I saw it again. Kurt Russell said, "Im a Libertarian. I think a lot of people are libertarians and are afraid to admit itor dont know". His statement also struck me as fairly cheeky. As it came from Kurt Russell, though, and not a libertarian intellectual (no disrespect intended, but Hollywood celebrities are not renowned for their intellect), I again dismissed the comment, this time on "consider the source" grounds. But I began to pay closer attention to what was being written and said about libertarians. Sure enough, I saw it again. And again. And these references were by respected libertarians, and intellectuals to boot. For example, David Boaz, Vice President of the Cato Institute contends in Left, Right, and Babyboom: America's New Politics that baby-boomers dont fit neatly into liberal and conservative labels. Boaz concludes that therefore, many baby-boomers are actually libertarian. But this doesnt match with the number of members of the Libertarian Party, nor with the number of votes cast for libertarian candidates, which is probably a better indicator of libertarianism than joining the political party. So, I was puzzled. Who are these poor benighted libertarians who dont even know that they are libertarian? How can it be that theyre out there, but those of us who value freedom and try to educate others as to the benefits of self-government dont seem to find them in our travels? I found a clue to my conundrum on the Advocates for Self-Government web site. On the "Results" page of their famous quiz, I noticed this definition of libertarians: "Libertarians are self-governors in both personal and economic matters. They believe government's only purpose is to protect people from coercion and violence. They value individual responsibility, and tolerate economic and social diversity." That isnt the definition I would choose. Several other clues presented themselves in the text of Boazs book titled Libertarianism: A Primer. In the first chapter, he states: "In the libertarian view, all human relationships should be voluntary; the only actions that should be forbidden by law are those that involve the initiation of force against those who have not themselves used forceactions like murder, rape, robbery, kidnapping, and fraud. Most people habitually believe in and live by this code of ethics" (pp.2-3). While this does define the non-aggression principle (which Boaz discusses later, under the name "nonaggression axiom"), the key element of this statement is in the words "habitually believe". Most people do agree that those actions are wrong, and avoid them. But that recognition is not equivalent to understanding the principle that makes them wrong. This is why many people who consider themselves honest dont hesitate to pocket extra change from a clerk at a store. Because its habit to think of robbery in a limited contextsomeone with a weapon demanding money and jewelrythe failure to rectify a mistake is not seen as the theft that it is. The Libertarian Partys web site was quite informative, as much as for what was there as what wasnt. The introductory informational pages are warm and friendly, talking about the libertarian philosophy as "live and let live". While thats one way to describe it, many libertarians would probably call that an oversimplification of the philosophy. Many people would say that that is their approach to living, but examination of their actions would demonstrate that they are anything but libertarian. On another page, a Gallup poll is described as showing that 20 percent of the American population is philosophically libertarian. There might be some justification in claiming that Americans are politically libertarian because of certain attitudes on specific issues, but to say that those individuals are philosophically libertarian is akin to trying to cross the Grand Canyon in one step. This leap clearly demonstrated the missing element from the Advocates for Self-Governments and LPs introductory information. The Non-Aggression Principle Where are the principles? More accurately, where is the principle? None of the pages I saw mentions what separates true libertarians from others who have similar positions on many issues: the
[CTRL] Pentium Pandemonium
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 13/A - The Laissez Faire City Times March 29, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 13 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Pentium Pandemonium by Don Lobo Tiggre Gary Allen, author of a book called None Dare Call It Conspiracy, postulates two possible views of history: either things happen by accident, or by design. It is dangerous and naïve to think that all the evils that befall us are mere freaks of coincidencethere has to be a conspiracy! But these two choices are not the only ones: what if there are reasons for the quasi-rhythmic stupidity of certain social phenomena, but those reasons have little to do with the intentions of malignant men bent on world domination? The current uproar over Intels new Pentium chip provides a good case study on the question of conspiracy versus spontaneous order. In case you havent heard what all the fuss is about, Intels new Pentium III processorsoon to be the heart of most new PCsis made with a unique identifying number burned into the chip. This is not something imprinted on the plastic covering of the chip, but an electronically accessible number built into every Pentium III chip Intel plans to make. Or, as Intel puts it: The Intel® processor serial number feature is embedded into the chip during the manufacturing process of the Pentium® III processor. The Intel® processor serial number serves as an identifier for the processor, and, by association, its system. Privacy advocates are concerned that the processor serial number (PSN) can be called up by other computers over the internet, even without the user of a tagged chips knowledge. Why would Intel even think of doing something like this? Well, according to their web site: The increased use of the Internet for communications and electronic commerce is raising PC users' concerns about the confidentiality and integrity of transaction-oriented data. Since computers are the primary connections to the Internet, they are a logical place for companies to add security features. Over the next several years, Intel is adding security building blocks in order to move the industry forward in developing secure solutions for our customers . In business, Corporate I.T. departments can use it to track assets and manage systems in a more efficient manner to help reduce total cost ownership. For consumers, the potential of the Internet promises new ways to shop online, manage their lives, and access and share information. Used in combination with other identifiers such as passwords and user names, hardware features such as processor serial number can provide added levels of confidence. This sounds pretty benign. Helping companies keep track of their computer equipment and helping people do business over the internet is good, isnt it? However, many people are unhappy about the aid that processor ID numbers could be to government agencies and pettier criminals that have their own reasons for wanting to keep track of people. Not to worry, says Intel. When you buy the computer, the electronic ID feature will be turned off, and youll have to turn it on yourself if you want people to be able to ID you. Not so quick, respond the cypherpunks and privacy advocatesif the numbers there, it can be hacked! The Permanent Cookie To prove the point, an electronic privacy concern called Zero Knowledge Systems (ZKS) posted to their web page something they call a Pentium III Processor Serial Number Exploit. This little demonstration extracts the ID number from your Pentium III chip, even if the ID feature is turned off. If you have a Pentium III already, and you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer (or Netscape Navigator with the optional ActiveX plug-in installed), you can try it out yourself by going to http://www.zks.net/p3. According to ZKS: "This exploit proves that Intel's Pentium Serial Number control utility offers no practical protection against hostile code activating or stealing your serial number." In other words, it shows that the PSN can put users privacy at great risk, even if the user hasnt turned it on. "The processor serial number can be used to create a permanent cookie that tracks your every move on the Internet, even if you erase your cookies regularly. This ability to track users' browsing habits creates a serious potential for violation of privacy." But it gets worseeven the legitimate purpose the PSNs are said to be for is called into question: "If Web sites use the PSN to authenticate users, a hacker could steal your serial number and pretend to be you at E-commerce sites. Authentication devices that can be read and stolen as easily as the PSN should not be trusted as methods to authenticate users." (Quick side note: If you already have a Pentium III, ZKS says you should, "Make sure
[CTRL] Toward a Unified Theory of William Jefferson Clinton
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.13/pageone.html"Laissez Faire City Times - Volume 3 Issue 13/A - The Laissez Faire City Times March 29, 1999 - Volume 3, Issue 13 Editor Chief: Emile Zola Toward a Unified Theory of William Jefferson Clinton an answer to Edith Efron by C.J. Barr Way back in the November 1994 issue of Reason, Edith Efron asked the intriguing question: "Can the President Think?" Her conclusion was that the president suffers from severe cognitive dysfunction and that the resulting chaos of his mind accounts for the chaos in his administration. In her analysis, Clinton emerges as the sum of two bedeviling paradoxes. The first, the paradox of the Hollow Sun King, refers to the strange emptiness that we perceive at the center of the charismatic Clinton phenomenon. The second, the paradox of the Paralyzed Sprinter, to the utter chaos that reigns at the center of his administration -- and, seemingly, of his mind. In this essay, I will first present an outline of Efron's argument, along with her proposed etiology. I will then present an alternative theory -- one that unifies not only these two paradoxes, but also the other sordid paradoxes of Clinton's life. Efron's First Paradox: The Hollow Sun King Clinton evokes worship as no American politician has since JFK. Not respect. Not admiration. Not even hero worship. But a sort of personal fawning, by both male and female worshipers, that borders on the sexual. For example, a youthful Arkansas journalist (a male) once described the fledgling Arkansas politician, Bill Clinton, as "the Sun King. And if you look too long at him you will be blind, your senses flooded with his gold-spined brilliance There must be some elemental undercurrent here that generates envy in other men, not just the musk of power but something pheromonic. Since it is not polite to compare your governor to Mussolini or even Huey Long, then let's say one of those Kennedy boys Actually, his choice of comparisons is strangely apt -- each and every one of them. But, reluctant to leave Clinton in such company without clarification, he proceeded to call him "that rare thing, a soulful politician." Yet a soul -- or at least a unifying "self" -- is exactly what many see as missing from this man. Not his enemies, who view him as evil, but his friends and supporters. Efron writes: "Tom Rosenstiel of the Los Angeles Times, Chris Bury of ABC, Maureen Dowd of The New York Times, Richard Cohen of The Washington Post, and Joe Klein of Newsweek have all... reached a similar conclusion -- that Clinton is 'in hiding' (Cohen); that Clinton is a multifaceted being without a unifying self (Klein); that he is whatever you happen to be looking at or, as Bury resignedly put it, 'what you see is what you get.' Dowd, the most literary, climaxed a fusillade of contradictions by saying, 'In the end, the focus is the unfocusability.'" His own closest aide, George Stephanopolous likened him, as reported in Woodward's The Agenda to "a kaleidoscope. What you see is where you stand and where you're looking at him. He will put one facet toward you, but that is only one facet." Some journalists, writes Efron, have "looked behind the self-contradictory mosaic and reached the grim conclusion that Clinton has no 'self.' In his book, Strange Bedfellows, which describes the coverage of the presidential campaign of 1992, Rosenstiel writes: 'Like many politicians Bill Clinton is a man of unfinished and contradictory character--scholarly and shallow, outgoing and shy, principled and craven, the mood depending on the motive. He possesses extraordinary talent and a fierce thirst for knowledge and insight, but above all approval. One reporter who spent time with him in New Hampshire found him one of the most outwardly directed people she had ever met--as if he had little inner sense of self at all.'" Sam Smith, editor of Progressive Review and an outspoken critic of Clinton from the left, has succinctly captured the essence behind the first paradox: "It was the normal work of the politician, but with Clinton there seemed too much. Too many hands, too many friends, too many words, too many hours before he went to sleep, too many hours on C-SPAN solving the nation's problems with too many industrialists and economists--and in the end too little else. It was as though he were afraid that if he excused himself from the public eye he might no longer be real." Smith comes closer to truth than he, perhaps, realizes: Clinton is a chimera. Efron writes of the fragment of stone at the bottom of Stephanopolous' kaleidoscope -- reflecting in a unique way, showing a different facet to each person as Clinton turns. This is a metaphor for the elusive "real Clinton"; but, in truth, there is no
[CTRL] Tres Dias
-Caveat Lector- Michael: Anyone have any information or personal knowledge/experience with Tres Dias? Private reply is requested if this is too far from a relevant topic. HISTORY OF TRES DIAS: Tres Dias was derived from Cursillo de Christiandad, a "short course in Christianity", which has been active in church renewal since it's beginnings in Spain in the 1940's. Translated from Spanish Tres Dias means "ThreeDays". Tres Dias is an inter-denominational Christian renewal group that proclaims that "Jesus Christ is Lord". Men's and Women's weekends are held throughout the year. After the three day experience, Tres Dias encourages people to be in small groups to support each other in their lives as Christians while enhancing ties with their home churches and living the Christian Life in their environment. There are now approximately 40 Tres Dias communities around the world. Thousands of men and women have made a Tres Dias Weekend. In America, Tres Dias was begun in 1972 and is overseen by International Tres Dias, which is made up of laity and clergy from around the world. Individual weekends are sponsored and coordinated by area groups such as TRES DIAS OF NORTH TEXAS which is affiliated with International Tres Dias. See also: http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=qkl=XXq=tres+diassearch=Search Edward "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- Thank you for the clarification on this. It is very interesting that that translation says "kill". This is especially interesting since in many other parts of the old testament the Israelites are admonished to "kill" certain other peoples. In fact, in one instance that I seem to recall they are ordered to "kill" all the members of a certain tribe and get in trouble for enslaving them instead. Or, there is the stoning of those caught in adultery. In a couple of weeks I will be meeting with a man who has studied the old testament in depth and I will ask him for clarification on this. It should be interesting. Howard Davis Bill Richer wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 3/28/99 11:33:37 PM GMT-5:00 - United States of A, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I you sure that the above is correct? I thought it was "thou shallt not murder". Am I wrong about this? And is is! By this do you mean to suggest that murder and kill are the same thing? Howard Davis Douay-Rheims Bible Exodus Chap 20 The ten commandments. 1 And the Lord spoke all these words: 2 I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3 Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make to thyself a graven thing, nor the likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. 5 Thou shalt not adore them, nor serve them. I am the Lord thy God, mighty, jealous, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me: 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands to them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that shall take the name of the Lord his God in vain. 8 Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and shalt do all thy works. 10 But on the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: thou shalt do no work on it, thou nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy beast nor the stranger that is within thy gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them, and rested on the seventh day: therefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother, that thou mayest be long-lived upon the land which the Lord thy God will give thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house: neither shalt thou desire his wife, nor his servant, nor his handmaid, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is his. 18 And all the people saw the voices and the flames, and the sound of the trumpet, and the mount smoking: and being terrified and struck with fear, they stood afar off, 19 Saying to Moses: Speak thou to us, and we will hear. Let not the Lord speak to us, lest we die. 20 And Moses said to the people: Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that the dread of him might be in you, and you should not sin. 21 And the people stood afar off. But Moses went to the dark cloud wherein God was. 22 And the Lord said to Moses: Thus shalt thou say to the children of Israel: You have seen that I have spoken to you from heaven. 23 You shall not make gods of silver: nor shall you make to yourselves gods of gold. 24 You shall make an altar of earth unto me: and you shall offer upon it your holocausts and peace offerings, your sheep and oxen, in every place where the memory of my name shall be. I will come to thee, and will bless thee. 25 And if thou make an altar of stone unto me, thou shalt not build it of hewn stones: for if thou lift up a tool upon it, it shall be defiled. 26 Thou shalt not go up by steps unto my altar, lest thy nakedness be discovered. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Warnings of Computer Virus Issued
-Caveat Lector- (From The New York Times) The body of the message says ``Here is that document you asked for ... don't show it to anyone else ;-).'' March 28, 1999 Warnings of Computer Virus Issued By The Associated Press PITTSBURGH (AP) -- A new computer virus can allow documents to be e- mailed to other people without warning, a potential security breach that should worry businesses and governments, an expert at Carnegie Mellon University said Saturday. The ``Melissa macro'' or W97M--Melissa virus spreads via infected e-mail and attacks computers loaded with Microsoft's widely used Word 97 or Word 2000 programs, according to CERT -- or Computer Emergency Response Team -- Carnegie Mellon's Department of Defense-funded computer security team. CERT first heard of the virus Friday afternoon and its members worked through the night to analyze the virus and develop a fix, CERT manager Katherine Fithen said. ``We're getting so many reports from across the world, that we know this is going to be a huge problem come Monday,'' Fithen said. She noted that since CERT was founded 10 years ago, this is only the second time it has considered a virus important enough to warrant a public announcement. The first, in 1994, warned of a virus that allowed computer burglars to collect passwords. CERT has not determined where the Melissa virus originated. Fithen said she is not allowed to say whether any governmental agency has suffered a security breach as the result of Melissa. Microsoft spokesman Adam Sohn said company programmers worked with CERT and manufacturers of anti-virus programs to develop an antidote. If a computer user opens an infected Word-format document, the virus propagates itself by reading the user's e-mail address book and sending an infected message to the first 50 entries, CERT said. The message can include the contents of any Word document that is open on the computer, Fithen said. Also, the virus reproduces and sends so much unwanted e-mail that the volume can overload some mail servers, the computers that distribute e- mail. However, it apparently causes no direct damage to a computer's memory or programs. Infected documents are sent as attachments to e-mails most frequently bearing a header: ``Subject: Important Message From'' the name of person whose computer relayed the virus. The body of the message says ``Here is that document you asked for ... don't show it to anyone else ;-).'' -- EDITOR'S NOTE: CERT information about the Melissa virus is available on the Web at http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-99-04-Melissa-Macro- Virus.html. Microsoft has a patch available at http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/ms99-002.asp. -- Steve Wingate California Director SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL Today's MP3: Xaz: Boiling Lake http://www.mp3.com/artists/8/xaz.html ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: AANEWS for Sunday, March 28, 1999
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 12:23 PM Subject: AANEWS for Sunday, March 28, 1999 from: AMERICAN ATHEISTS subject: AANEWS for March 28, 1999 A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S AANEWS #5489 ~~ 3/28/99 http://www.atheists.org ftp.atheists.org/pub/atheists/ http://www.americanatheist.org - A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS "For Reason and the First Amendment" -- An AANEWS Special Report: THE BALKAN CRISIS: FAULT LINE OF CIVILIZATIONS Ethnicity, Religion and Culture Reassert Themselves As Forces In The Post - Cold War World With NATO air strikes moving into their fifth day, there appears to be little prospect of an immediate resolution to what is broadly labeled "the Balkan crisis." Popular support in both the United States and Europe is considered "soft, at least in comparison to the allied incursions into Iraq. Battlefield objectives remain unclear, as NATO commanders speak only of hitting Yugoslavia's military infrastructure and "command-control apparatus." Even with stealth technology and a barrage of cruise missiles, it is far from certain that an air war can come anywhere close to bringing the government of Slobodan Milosevic back to the bargaining table, let alone resolve one of the most complex cultural struggles in recent history. This is due to the fact that the Balkan crisis is rooted in centuries of violent conflict and history. It is also located atop one of the world's major civilizational fault lines -- a point of intersection involving Islam, western Christianity and eastern Orthodoxy. Conflicting religious, political, ethnic and cultural forces are at work here. There are literally centuries of violent history overlaid with a melange of mythic tales, songs, literature, poetry and feelings. It is a phenomenon which Americans, very much the product of modernity and a vastly different view of the world and history, have difficulty apprehending. * A CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS... The Balkan crisis represents a paradigm case described by Samuel P. Huntington in his seminal work, "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order" (1996). Coeditor of Foreign Policy magazine and a political scientist at Harvard, Huntington described the disintegration of the old cold war, bipolar alignment which pitted east against west, and its reconfiguration by a multi-polar world in which "civilizations" would become the major players. Secular ideologies would play less of a role than in the past, being replaced by more traditional forces such as language, ethnicity, religion, ancestral roots and familial ties. Nowhere is this process more evidence than in the disintegration of the former Yugoslavia, an amalgam of different ethnic and cultural groups held in the thrall of the late dictator Josip Broz, known also as Josip Broz Tito (1892-1980). A lifelong communist, Tito was imprisoned in 1928 for attempting to overthrow the Yugoslav monarchy. He later orchestrated the left resistance throughout Yugoslavia to the Germans in World War II, and served as Minister when the Federal Republic was declared in 1953. Tito's unique brand of communism, "positive neutralism" drove him away from the Soviet block, and he became a spokesman for the nonaligned nations. Under Tito, the government suppressed the separatist ambitions of numerous ethnic groups and political movements. Four republics -- a residue of Tito's experiment in regionalism and limited local autonomy -- broke away from Yugoslavia after the fall of the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia was reduced to two of those republics, Montenegro and Serbia. Out of the former Tito State arose Slovenia (June, 1991), Croatia (June, 1991), Bosnia-Herzegovina (March, 1992) and Macedonia (November, 1991). This fragmentation was along the cultural fault-lines defined by differing ethnic, cultural and religious groups. For instance, Croatia is predominantly Roman Catholic. During the Second World War, the Nazis established a Catholic rump-government presided over by church officials and the notorious Ustashi movement. In addition to supporting the geopolitical and military goals of the Third Reich, the Ustashi regime engaged in a ruthless policy of exterminating Jews, Orthodox-slav, nonbelievers, and anyone else who would not succumb to the policy of forced religious conversions. Writer Avro Manhattan, author of the "The Vatican's Holocaust," observed, "During the existence of Croatia as an independent Catholic State, over 700,000 men, women and children perished. Many were executed, tortured, died of starvation, buried alive, or were burned to death..." The Independent Catholic State of Croatia was under the nominal leadership of Ante Pavelic (1889-1959) who had been
[CTRL] Skeptic News Sunday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990328b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Online sex carries health risk - Many surfers admitted to visiting sex sites. (BBC) Too much time spent surfing Internet sex sites can damage your mental health. A study found that individuals who spend 11 hours or more a week visiting such sites are more prone to psychological difficulties such as sexual compulsivity. Not to mention carpal-tunnel syndrome, neckache, etc - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_305000/305106.stm @ Internet Index - Net statistics: www.openmarket.com/intindex/index.cfm : Do you get much or most of your sex online? Is it clean? Is it fun? Do the aliens monitoring your implant enjoy it too? Do CIA mind-control rays cause net.impotence? Are the NSA agents monitoring your net.sex all perverts? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Karaoke singing monk faces the music in Cambodia. PHNOM PENH (Reuters) A Cambodian monk was expelled after he was caught sneaking out of his temple at night to indulge his secret passion-- karaoke singing. By day Kung Bunch- hoeun, 22, wore the simple orange robes of a monk but at night he would don ordinary garb and slip out of his Phnom Penh temple to croon in karaoke bars. http://customnews.cnn.com/cnews/pna.show_story?p_art_id=2825902 # ON THE TRAIL OF A BRONZE BUDDHA IN NEPAL. Mention that your itinerary includes the Katmandu Valley, and someone will likely put in a shopping request. "Bring back one of those beautiful copper Buddhas," my friend said. "Try and get an original." And so the quest began... see http://CNN.com/TRAVEL/DESTINATIONS/9902/nepal.bronze.lat/index.html : Does your spiritual guide haunt karaoke bars? Is your spirit quest for tin or bronze or gold or plutonium? Does your spirit quest lead to karaoke bars? Would you prefer your spiritual leaders sing karaoke, embezzle, molest kids? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # FINALLY - JUDGES CAN BAR 'JUNK SCIENCE' TESTIMONY. Finally, non-scientific 'expert witnesses' will be held to the same tough standards that scientific experts must meet in court cases. Maybe this will stem the tide of "junk science" that has influenced many environmental cases and product liability suits. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=10916 : Is junk science better than no science at all? Are junk religions, junk politics, junk thoughts, junk arts, better than none at all? Do you care? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # School board members quarrel over 'black magic'. BROWNSVILLE, PA (AP) A Pennsylvania school board is having some black magic moments. It started when board member Peggy Gursky brought a black candle to a meeting of the school board. She says she wanted to ward off what she calls "negative vibes." http://customnews.cnn.com/cnews/pna.show_story?p_art_id=2928108 : Do you ward off vibes of any sort with burning materials? What works best? Should black candles be burnt at all public/political/legislative meetings? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # MORNING COFFEE COULD LEAD TO STRESS ALL DAY. Unfortunately for those of us who love coffee, researchers find that drinking 4 or 5 cups of coffee a day can raise your blood pressure a little - and your stress level a lot. They even find that test subjects reported feeling anxiety and stress well into evening. It reminds us how powerful this drug, caffeine - my drug of choice - can be. www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=10719 : Would you rather be stressed-out by stimulants, financial problems, sexual anxiety, political concerns, fears of alien abduction, or existential angst? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Peruvians wallow in 'miraculous' mud allegedly touched by aliens. CHILCA, Peru (AP) A lot of ailing Peruvians are turning up in Chilca, a dusty desert town on the Pacific coast 40 miles southeast of Lima. They come to wallow in the mud of three small ponds thought to have healing powers. But there's a twist to these mud baths -- locals claim their purported miraculous powers are brought by alien space ships. E.T., HeaL Me: see http://customnews.cnn.com/cnews/pna.show_story?p_art_id=3475921 # Nature's body-boosters. Herbal supplements are being lauded as the new fix-it for problems like PMS, fatigue, poor concentration and lazy immune systems. Here's a run-down on popular alternative treatments. Avoid feeling run-down: http://fashion.iafrica.com/beauty/index.htm?src_id=tmp0313 : Would you like to wallow in alien poop? Would it improve your complexion? Has all hot mud been 'processed' by aliens, deities, demons, earth.spirits? Are herbal supplements better than proper nutrition, exercise, exorcisms? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: # Iraq Bribed Russian Prime Minister Primakov For Nuclear Weapons: http://nt.excite.com/news/r/990329/00/news-iraq-russia-report @ Hitler: A
Re: [CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist
-Caveat Lector- on this list and for the most part, you will not find a real definition of socialism or liberal because there is a conspiracy by a number of people on this list to stack and balance the pandora's box of world problems on the terms socialism and liberalism. it is a concerted effort by those in the disinformation business to divert the attention away from the REAL CRIMINALS and stack them on socialism and liberalism. everyone else is pretty much resolved as to their understanding of these terms and it is only those with agendas who will even bring these terms up in the first place and that will always be to spread disinformation about these terms. watch the flack that i get from this post and you will see who support the this agenda of disinformation. and if they shut-up it is only to conceal the fact that they are right wing, disinformation spreading minions of the dittohead persuasion. the funny thing is that they don't even know that they are. they would be laughable if they were not so serious and probably dangerous. The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see ... -- Dominique Francon [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: i have a question for the list, especially those who have been calling clinton a socialist. how the hell do you define a socialist??!! definitely not the same way i do. i think of myself as a socialist, but i've always considered the american government to be a prevailingly very capitalist one. another thing, real socialists (by the definition of modern socialist organisations), do not consider stalin to have been a socialist. socialism in my mind is a government by the people, for the people and with the people. very idealistic i know, so don't any of you cynics on this list start patronising me please. i just feel that your definition of a socialist needs to be defined, because then maybe i'd be able to figure out what the hell you're talking about when you call clinton a socialist. if you want to read the reality of the socialist movement, you can do so here: http://www.clubi.ie/dojo/cwi/index this is the webpage of an international socialist organization. they have many articles on world affairs and probably a link to the communist manifesto in there somewhere. you might find that your definition of a socialist clashes with their definition of a socialist. -peace -andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: SNET: [Fwd: [patriot] (fwd) Arkansas Welcome Sign]
-Caveat Lector- View the "Welcome" sign gang! LOL Bard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 11:20 AM To: Patriot Net; APFN; Patriots; Patriotawareness; ChristianPatriot; SNET Subject: SNET: [Fwd: [patriot] (fwd) Arkansas Welcome Sign] - SNETNEWS Mailing List schuetzen wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (schuetzen) On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:25:33 -0700, spiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CLICK HERE http://www.republicradio.freeservers.com/funny.jpg A question to ponder How many Politicians can we take care of per 100 feet of rope? Sincerely, David E. Parsons Denver, CO Home Page http://members.tripod.com/~DAVIDPARSONS/index.html ICQ# 7869261 ICQ - World's Largest Internet Online Communication Network http://www.mirabilis.com/ Watch the UN rag burn! http://azwest.net/user/slim/unburn.gif We are proud as punch of our new web site! http://www.onelist.com Onelist: The leading provider of free email community services unsubscribe info at http://www.onelist.com/ "My first pledge will be to restore integrity to the White House. And I'll fire anyone who has lied to the American people or the United States Congress." - Al Gore, in a February 2, 1988 presidential debate So does this mean he's going to fire Clinton? -- "Nobody's Life, Liberty or Property is Safe While Congress is in Session!" --- Capitol Hill Blue http://www.capitolhillblue.com/index.htm - "Stars and Stripes" (upside down) Public Law 829 (77th Congress) Sec. 4(a) "The flag should never be displayed with the union down SAVE AS A SIGNAL OF DIRE DISTRESS" DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kevorkian News
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: look DIVINE, i fail to see how you could take my response as "hateful" i dont know where u are coming from. All I know is JACK KEVORKIAN is a serial killer, in my book. because--he LOVES what he does-if u cant see that, im sorry. in no way was i trying to be "hateful"--i just DONT LIKE serial killers liz you are just jealous because he has the kevorka and you don't. i think the man is a highly ethical and honorable individual. someday he will be made a saint, in spite of your propagandistic campaign. he will be seen as a very holy man and will go down in history as such. your ditto campaign, long before any of this, will go pht... the problem is that, no matter who this man is or even how ethical the man is; his message is not the status quo and he thereby represents so-called liberal politics and as such he must be fought by this disinformationalist agenda. this whole paranoid agenda exists because the possibilities presented by the 60's scared the status quo so badly that they are still swinging their fists in the dark trying to fight this enemy that they can't even see. it is not the liberal or the socialists that they are fighting; it is the possiblity of a mass social movement that they are fighting, because an informed populus is the greatest threat to these sob's and their evil agenda of world dominatrion and enslavement. scarey huh sirhC DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News Monday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990329a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** 7 volunteer to be crucified. SAN FERNANDO, Philippines (AP) 7 penitents in a northern Philippine village have agreed to be nailed to wooden crosses on Good Friday, a gruesome ritual that draws large crowds of tourists every year. More people are expected to sign up to have four-inch nails driven in- to their hands and in some cases feet as well, in a reenactment of Christ's sufferings. Last year, men dressed as Roman soldiers nailed 14 men and a wo- man to crosses on a hill in the village. The ritual has continued for more than 40 years in Asia's only predominately Roman Catholic nation. The grima- cing penitents usually stay on the cross for a few minutes before being hel- ped down. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558970311-377 : Does your belief system encourage you to undergo agonies? Would you volun- teer to suffer anyway? Do the voices in your head tell you to? Honestly? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # DEVISING THE SENSE OF TOUCH. An MIT grad student invents an implant that may make artificial limbs able to feel. It all started with an Erector set. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/17889.html # THE SUPER-DUPER HYPERCOMPUTER. An obscure Utah company introduces Hal: a computer about the size of most PCs, but a blazing 60,000 times faster. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/17862.html # THIRD DIMENSION FOR THE WEB. Since the dawn of the commercial Web, fans of 3-D tech have tried to make it more efficient. A new spec may hold the key. www.wired.com/news/news/email/explode-infobeat/technology/story/17847.html : Will feely implants, hyper-CPUs and 3D immersion help turn us into Borgs? Do you want to transcend humanity, become a cyborg, attain mythical status? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ *** Inuit to get new Canadian territory. IQALUIT, Northwest Territories (AP) The fur traders came, then the missionaries and the Mounties, sometimes hel- pful, often bullying. Maps claimed the harsh arctic wilderness to be Canada, but always, in their hearts, the Inuit considered it their own. On Thursday, the maps change. Fireworks will light the midnight sky over frozen Frobisher Bay, a new flag will rise and an Inuit-dominated legislature will be sworn in to govern the new Canadian territory of Nunavut - "our land" in the Inuit language, Inuktitut. Carved out of the eastern 60% of the Northwest Territo- ries, Nunavut represents one of the boldest initiatives by any nation to re- store land and self-government to an aboriginal people. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558960203-a83 *** Also: Some facts about Nunavut, see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2558960205-ece : Does your ethnic group control its own homeland? Did you have to tear it away from oppressors? Were you helped by armies, NGOs, disease, fate, ETs? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ An Abbreviated History of Earth. "Mankind has been on this world for one million years. This constitutes TWO five hundred thousand year timelines. This is the amount of time allotted by universal protocol for the develop- ment of ascendant life. At the end of each timeline, judgement is held and rapture performed. Typically, those deemed ascendant are taken to a world the next level up with a stop over in Jerusem, the universal capitol, for an orientation period." See http://www.planetaryhq.com/history.htm : What's your favorite timeline? Have you ever become ascendant? What's your favorite rapture? Are raptures time-wasting? Do you fiddle with your implant while you await your turn? Do you get cranky if your judgment goes slowly? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # 'Oldest ever' fossils found - Disturbances in the Earth's crust destroyed many fossils. (BBC) The oldest, tiniest fossils yet identified will be un- veiled at a meeting in Strasbourg next week. The bacterial creatures, which resemble "pond slime", were found in North West Australia and are estimated to be approximately three-and-a-half billion years old. Ooze on over to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_305000/305816.stm # Also: New 'living fossil' identified: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_302000/302368.stm # When we were worms: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_302000/302368.stm # Magnet theory to life on Mars: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_294000/294313.stm # Fossil find rattles sabres: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_288000/288315.stm : Are these really ancient fossils, or were they 'planted' to fool us by one or more deities, or aliens, commie humanist atheists, or cosmic tricksters? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ SkeptiLinks: @ Strange than fiction:
Re: [CTRL] Let's Hear It For The CIA
-Caveat Lector- MarkM411 I did not appreciate that pornography. Please do not do this again. Terry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] excellent dry quote
-Caveat Lector- "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." --Robert Wilensky DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] excellent dry quote
-Caveat Lector- What is that old lineDarwin said man descended from the monkeyand the bible said man was made in God's image? Well, I'll be a monkey's Uncle. Do you really think Abraham Lincoln wrote over a million words of original thought in his lifetime, or did he have a press agent.true, he wrote over a million words. Bye. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] (fwd) $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Path: firefly!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!server1.netnews.ja.net!str-ccsun!singer.cent.gla.ac.uk!usenet From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph C Hunter) Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.guns Subject: $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:10:07 +0100 Organization: God Squad Lines: 16 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NNTP-Posting-Host: paama.dcs.gla.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v2.00 Xref: firefly alt.activism:462678 talk.politics.guns:889848 "A US F117 aircraft has been shot down over Yugoslavia. The aircraft was hit by small arms fire from local militia causing a fire on board and rendering it's much vaunted 'stealth' technology useless. The subsequent high IR-signature was then locked onto by a missile battery with fired off a single SA6 anti-aircraft missile. The missile struck the target and the aircraft crashed in flames some 20 miles from Belgrade. The pilot managed to bail out and was rescued within hours by NATO forces." Anyone who doubts the effectiveness of firearms in the hands of the citizenry to wage war on a well armed military should think again. Strike one for RKBA. Joe. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (fwd) $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- David brought down Goliath with a stone and a sling shot, did he not? One big bomb from the mighty ducks, could down the whole country in one day. When one goes to war, one should use the full force and anything within their power to win the battle. Where is the battle? Where is the war? Why are we permitting Clinton to make mercenaries out of our military - and cui bono, that is always the question. Fortuntely, the pilot escaped.had Goliath not been a gentleman, he would have gotten a fly swatter, and eliminated David with one swat..how can a country the size of the United States with its mighty forces beat a little country like Iraq or Yugoslavians, or whatever, without looking like the Beast out of the Revelations. Now I say, let's send Clinton over to put down this situation.its time to send this boy to real war with his troops behind him, not in the front lines.let him be a real man, for just once in his life. One big bomb would have stopped the war in Viet Nam; this is what Truman did in WWII. We did not start that war; Truman ended it with one big bomband saves more lives, in the end - of our troops. Recently, a man from Japan took a potshot at the USAsaid its citizens were so uninformed, they couldn't find Japan on the map; to which I replied - after WWII they are luckey to still be on the map. Does might make right? No. But it sure wings battles. Some of these little bullies have been pulling the tail of the tiger - who is slow to anger - one good swat, would end the battle. Lets bring our soldiers homeand who armed all these countries, anyway? Will we have to use the full force of our might - it is true, the cowards when they know the enemy is scared - turns into a bully. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [net-alert] Net-Alert Volume 1, Issue 5
-Caveat Lector- Aren't these just big chain letters in essense.list.doc - does this come out of government offices.sounds like it does it not? Is someone trying to silence the voice of the Turtles with a chain letter or mail bomb as they call it. Who all is being affected by thislist docpornography - this sounds like dirty tricks to me. Nobody ever sends me any pornography except Mark sent this horrible picture of a nude pregnant lady, which was horrible. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Disney Deception
Path: rQdQ!remarQ73!remarQ-uK!remarQ.com!supernews.com!diablo.theplanet.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!bignews.mediaways.net!pants.skycache.com!newsfeed.slurp.net!not-for-mail From: "SM" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.mindcontrol,alt.illuminati,alt.conspiracy.new-world-order,alt.conspiracy.black.helicopters,alt.conspiracy.beyondweird Subject: @ The Disney Deception Lines: 4306 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: AxoJ2.7533$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:51:01 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.30.201.94 X-Trace: newsfeed.slurp.net 922096864 198.30.201.94 (Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:01:04 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:01:04 CDT Xref: rQdQ alt.conspiracy:472772 alt.mindcontrol:31376 alt.illuminati:47268 alt.conspiracy.new-world-order:7646 alt.conspiracy.black.helicopters:4853 alt.conspiracy.beyondweird:2392 Information given to me. Thought I would pass it on. CHAPTER 5 SCIENCE NO. 5 - THE SKILL OF LYING, THE ART OF DECEIT The Illuminati have refined the art of deception far beyond what the common man has imagined. The very life liberty of humanity requires the unmasking of their deceptions. That is what this book is about. Honesty is a necessary ingredient for any society to function successfully. Deception has become a national pastime, starting with our business and political leaders and cascading down to the grass roots. The deceptions of the Illuminati's mind-control may be hidden, but in their wake they are leaving tidal waves of distrust that are destroying America. While the CIA pretend to have our nations best interest at heart, anyone who has seriously studied the consequences of deception on a society will tell you that deception will seriously damage any society until it collapses. Lies seriously damage a community, because trust and honesty are essential to communication and productivity. Trust in some form is a foundation upon which humans build relationships. When trust is shattered human institutions collapse. If a person distrusts the words of another person, he will have difficulty also trusting that the person will treat him fairly, have his best interests at heart, and refrain from harming him. With such fears, an atmosphere of death is created that will eventually work to destroy or wear down the cooperation that people need. The millions of victims of total mind-control are stripped of all trust, and they quietly spread their fears and distrust on a subconscious level throughout society. One problem about lies is that one lie will call for another and then another. It's hard to keep lies single. They seem to want to breed more of their kind to protect themselves. Soon the liar becomes a victim of his own lies, trapped in a dishonest web that demands lots of energy to protect his false fronts. This is the sad fate that the intelligence agencies have painted themselves into. They must maintain groups that oversee their double-agents' lies to insure that the lies that they have disseminated don't contradict themselves. Finally, they have put out so much disinformation, they lose track of reality themselves. Far from saving this nation, the intelligence agencies have spread the cancer of deception into all walks of life, so that this cancer is contaminating and killing anything of value in the United States. The soon-to-come death of this nation's sovereignty, as well as the destruction of this nation's morals are the results of this cancer. People who have attended high level Illuminati meetings were instructed in how the Illuminati plan to bring in the NWO AntiChrist reign by making everything appear as if it has happened naturally. The Illuminati have decided to camouflage their actions with the creation of normalcy to avert any suspicions. An example of something which appears to have happened naturally is the O.J. Simpson case, which was planned based on previous murder scenarios which had been successfully covered up. O.J. Simpson was a CIA mind-controlled slave, and the entire Simpson case was concocted as an elaborate effort to cause racial tensions. The Mishpucka, the CIA, the Mob and the Illuminati have all had their dirty hands involved in the entire affair. The entire affair reeks of manipulation and planning. It is not the goal of this paragraph to go into the case, but just to drop a couple details. Joey Ippolito, Jr. is both CIA Mob. Ippolito at one time lived in Hallendale, FL, a mob housing subdivision which was protected by a police force run by the mob. He has helped run drugs and wet ops for "the Combination" which interconnects with the Illuminati. O.J. Simpson's friend Cowlings worked for Joey Ippolito, as well as O.J. Simpson. Simpson distributed cocaine for Joey Ippolito the Combination. Simpson's lawyer also is tied to the Illuminati, the CIA, and the mob. One of his lawyers on TV said the trial reeked of government
[CTRL] Fwd: RESEARCH ARCHIVE, TWA 800: GENERAL APPEAL
General research appeal, to all, internationally, who have interest in TWA Flight 800: My name is Michael Morris. I am a specialist researcher, with particular reference to selected significant catastrophes which are caused deliberately (example: Pan Am 103). I research widely and thoroughly, then assemble interdisciplinary case-studies. My research sources are international, wide-ranging, mostly primary (direct from official or witness testimony and actual forensic reports and in-situ inspections etcetera; much of the primary resource I gather after having noticed leads via secondary sources (the media, some Internet, tips, etc). My case-studies seldom arrive at final form, because, as you all know, such significant incidents seem never ended - the Pan Am 103 case, for instance, is of an outrage ten years and three months ago, but the alleged culprits, Fhimah and Megrahi, will be delivered to court authorities for trial only in two weeks from now, on April 6th, and the trial itself will stretch the matter further. My work is acquired internationally, and various aspects of it may be perused in major libraries, such as Library of Congress in Washington DC, etc (see, for example, my extensive HOSTILE ACTIONS AGAINST CIVIL ACTION, 1990 et seq, and subsequent volumes) (actually I do NOT encourage you to wade through all that - it is heavy going, with hundreds of pages and many Update volumes, and very, very expensive - there is no shelf stock, copies are made for clients only once ordered, and they're prohibitively expensive to produce). Anyway, my specific interest in TWA 800 is wide-ranging, and my academic interest is how Pan Am 103 influenced perceptions of TWA 800. I have been accumulating research materials on TWA 800 since the evening the tragedy occurred. One of the aspects of my TWA 800 study is the (to me, anyway) interesting development of an entire Internet culture about it. For various reasons, this did not happen when Pan Am 103 was destroyed. nor even for a very long time after December 1988. My appeal is this: I shall be grateful to receive, by email, or by mail, ANYTHING relating to TWA 800, which you can spare and would care to donate to my research archive. ANYTHING means exactly that: correspondence, email messages, texts of any sort, official reports, radar tape or printed references, ATC audio tapes or transcripts, photographs, theories, private reports, diskettes, whatever. All material received will be acknowledged, and any materials referred to in the eventual case-study will be meticulously and thoroughly attributed. Please do participate in this archive construction - it is an important case, and YOUR submission of materials IS important. My email address is, as you know [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my mail address is Michael Morris P O Box 4745 East Lansing MI 48826-4745 USA. Thank you for your attention and interest.
[CTRL] Guess Next Pretext (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- GUESS NEXT PRETEXT == (CNNS, 03/29/99) -- The pretext, the *causa belli* used as trigger for current NATO airstrikes against Yugoslavia, was the fake "Racak massacre." But a new pretext will be needed to justify the already planned insertion of ground troops into the region. What will the next Serb "outrage," "atrocity," etc. be? Peddling whatever the next Serb "horror story" is will be the U.S. mainstream media, especially television. In Yugoslavia itself, ironically, New York Times now warns that the Yugoslav government has "harnessed" Serb TV and turned it into a propaganda venue. But the Serb people are not fooled, says NYTimes. One savvy Serb is quoted as saying, "We follow Serbian television to see what the latest lies are and we turn to the Internet to find the truth." [1] See? The Serbs aren't so different from us here in the USA! We here in America also follow the U.S. television to see what the latest lies are and we turn to the Internet to find the truth! Significantly, the NYTimes article which is shocked -- shocked! -- by the danger of dishonest news outlets also discloses that the Serbs fear NATO troops in Macedonia will soon provoke border incidents as pretext for a planned invasion by NATO ground troops. NYTimes quotes a Serb news anchor, as follows: "Our sources report," the anchor said in the same evening news broadcast, "that in addition to 2,400 NATO soldiers stationed in Macedonia, 1,800 U.S. soldiers have just arrived. NATO plans to use these forces to provoke border incidents and stage an alleged Yugoslav attack on Macedonia, which would be used as a pretext for sending NATO ground forces into Yugoslavia." [2] This report by Serb TV, courtesy of the ever-vigilant NYTimes, corroborates an earlier report by this news service: Phase 2 of the Kosovo *causa belli* may be a staged event of Serb troops supposedly crossing over into Macedonia. Such a staged event would "excuse" NATO troops, now massed in Macedonia, for invading Kosovo. [3] But what if, now that the "border incidents" pretext is foreseen, the Master Planners decide they must invent a new, different *causa belli*? What other Serb "outrages," "atrocities," and "horror stories" might the creative minds at War Planning Central dream up? Here are some possibilities. Bear in mind that none of the following have yet occurred, nor are they likely to occur except in the imaginative minds of War Planning Central: (1) Serbs Beat Their Dogs! Video of "Serbs" (really actors) cruelly beating their dogs. Plenty of video of sad, hurt, lovable dogs, staring woefully into the camera. (2) Serbs Ignore Child Trapped In Well! Reports of a 5-year-old Albanian girl trapped in a well, and that the Serbs aren't bothering to rescue her. Her "mother" (really an actress) cries her eyes out on-camera. (3) Milosevic Rapes Hillary! TV "news" broadcasts that Slobodan Milosevic, incensed by reports of Bill Clinton's rape of Juanita Broderick, helicoptered to Egypt with elite forces, kidnapped Hillary Clinton, and raped her. (4) Serb Women Rape Kosovo Men! Serb women set up "rape camps" and sexually molest captured Kosovo Liberation Army troops. (5) Serbs Pluck Out Eyes of Kosovo Civilians! Reports that Serb soldiers are removing the eyeballs of Muslim Kosovars and selling these human organs to Moscow, in exchange for weapons. Of course, it's hard to guess what the next "whopper" being told, straight-faced and serious, by U.S. television newsfaces, will be. After all, few of us are as imaginative as some American journalists. But watch for the upcoming major "horror story" which will put U.S. soldiers in harms way. --- Notes --- [1] "Serbia Uses TV to Attack NATO Policy," by New York Times. Published at San Jose Mercury News web site, 3/28/99. [2] Ibid. [3] "Kosovo Drugs Target 'Christian Infidels.'" CNNS, 3/25/99. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to
[CTRL] Fwd: THE SCOOP: Death Race 2000, April 1 Edition
The Scoop - http://www.bobharris.com/ To new subscribers: thanks for joining up. Yes, the column really is free, and you're encouraged to forward it to friends. That's how our readership grows. If you've just joined up from some exotic locale because you heard my rants on Armed Forces Radio (see below), please drop a line and say howdy. This week, we heard from Bahrain and Spain. Although neither were mainly in the plain, as far as we know. Thanks! bh THE SCOOP for April 1, 1999 Death Race 2000: The Candidates Come Clean © 1999 Bob Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ [] = italics American Political Reality Increasingly Lets Fundraising Overcome Obvious Limitations in the politicians themselves. However, little-reported statements made by several presidential candidates in front of local reporters in New Hampshire reveal the true nature of American politics at the millennium.. "Will I be the next President of the United States?" asked Al Gore, addressing a group of Internet software developers in Nashua. "I've got 600,000 more reasons to think so every week." The group, assembled to thank the Vice-President for inventing the Internet, thereby providing them with livelihoods if not clear skin, was stunned by Gore's candor. "It's not like being Veep is a full-time job, and I'm not exactly Dan Quayle over here. I've got a life. What the hell do you think I've been doing the last seven years? While not inventing the cell phone, the laptop computer, and the wrap sandwich, I've assembled the biggest money machine in the history of politics -- another million dollars every twelve days. Hell, I might have thirty-five million before the first primary is even held. Why the hell do you think there's not a single Democrat sincerely trying to beat me?" Told of Gore's comments, Bill Bradley agreed. "Well, I'm not exactly working my keister off," said Bradley, "and the other guys, they know the game. Why waste a dime trying to outspend a dollar?" The former Senator, interviewed while standing motionless in a stiff crosswind, went on to explain: "it's not like I'm a real alternative, either. I mean, I'm cooler than Al on race relations and civil rights -- I played basketball, remember, so I'm one of the few white politicians in this country who ever spent time with actual black people -- but remember, Wall Street pays our way. Hell, I oughta know: I actually advocated campaign finance reform once. Not that I'm gonna mention it much this time around, not while I can hitch myself to Al's gravy train and ride into the White House with less sweat than driving the lane against the L.A. Clippers. Once I'm VP I'll talk about all the money in politics again. But for now, it's Al and me. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go practice my monotone." The candidate denied rumors he was attempting to win favor with Granite State voters by impersonating an actual piece of granite. Other Democratic candidates declined comment, with Jackson in Dover, Gephardt in Hanover, Kerry and Kerrey both en route from Derry, and Wellstone not Keene to reply. ([Aside from Bob:] Sorry. I think I just channeled Dr. Seuss.) Meanwhile, the spawn of Bush and spouse of Dole hold a wide lead in early polls of GOP voters, who seem uninterested in voting for candidates with actual positions. Texas Governor Bush, who has already admitted that a) his candidacy is entirely contingent on fundraising, and b) he won't explicitly state his positions on many issues until summer further shocked listeners by elaborating at a private meeting in Bretton Woods attended by bankers, bond traders, and some guy in camouflage relieving himself against a tree. "Hell no, I'm not willing to take any actual positions yet. Are you kidding? I mean, I just used the word 'compassionate' once, and the self-proclaimed Christians in my party tried to rip my throat out. Screw it. I've got three mil already and a thirty-point lead. Not gonna do it." Liddy Dole, in contrast, refused to take a position on her complete unwillingness to take a position. Attending a meeting of Manchester United, a media watchdog group funded by Rupert Murdoch, the woman who sleeps with America's leading Viagra customer again dodged questions like an [X-Files] shapeshifter, announcing only that she was "not a politician," even though she held Washington jobs for five presidents, that politics should not be "dominated by special interests," even though her campaign is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the tobacco industry and Archer-Daniels-Midland, and that Americans are tired of the "ugliness of politics," by which she was presumably referring to Steve Forbes. However, Dole did advocate the development of space-based nuclear devices -- not surprising, given that her maiden name is Hanford -- explaining (and this is a true quote): "Only one thing would be worse than the status quo. And that would be for the status quo to become the norm."
Re: [CTRL] Guess Next Pretext (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- I have concluded that when the experts take the so called "polls" they do not call Democrats, cause their minds already made up; and they do not call Republicans, cause their minds already made up. So who do they call? The people who make the big difference - the ones who do not vote in the first place, have no firm commitment to either party, sit in the middle of the road, and who remain silent...yet, when they decide to cast their vote when things become too unbearable, they are the decisive factor in good government. So by this time, this line in the middle of the road, is getting pretty fed up - and whoever, or whomever puts forth the best candidates, will get elected - and these are the people who control the polls - the independent voter who comes to the aid of their country, when need be And they are the ones who can VOTE THEM ALL OUT.this is the rational voter, who picks the better of two evils, and hopes for the best. They are also the middle class mor affluent American I imagine, who just want to be left alone. Two/Thirds of the States can call for a Constitutional Convention..maybe now after two hundred years it is time to see what can be doneand stand every man in his placeand kick out Madiline Albright - anything I detest is a woman who looks like a man, talks like a man, and walks like a man, so she must be a man. As they say, don't let the door knob hit you on the way out. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Income Tax Repealed/IRS Abolished - Possible . . .?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.cats.org/articles/3039sum.html A HREF="http://www.cats.org/articles/3039sum.html"H.R. 3039 Summary/A - SUMMARY H.R. 2001 National Retail Sales Tax Act of 1997 Income Tax Repealed The personal and corporate income taxes, estate and gift taxes and all non-trust fund dedicated excise taxes are repealed. IRS Abolished The Internal Revenue Service is de-authorized, as of FY 1999, allowing time to close out previous tax years. No Successor agency is established Sales Tax Imposed A tax of 15 percent is imposed on the gross receipts from the sale of any taxable property or service sold in the United States. The amount of tax paid on every transaction must be disclosed to the consumer. Use Tax Imposed A tax is also imposed on the use or consumption in the U.S. of any taxable good or service for which the sales tax was not paid (i.e. goods purchased outside of the U.S.) Exemptions No tax shall be imposed on any good or service: purchased for resale; purchased to produce a good or service for resale; or exported from the United States. . Savings and Investments Income going to savings and investments is not taxable until consumed. Investment income is not taxable until consumed. Personal Consumption Refund To ensure that the basic necessities of life remain tax free, every wage earner receives a refund equal to the sales tax rate times the poverty level (adjusted for the number of dependents claimed). As a result, every wage earner can spend up to the poverty level tax free. Supermajority Required A supermajority vote of 2/3 of both Houses of Congress is necessary to raise the sales tax rate or to create any exemptions to the sales tax. Burden of Proof The burden of proof lies with the government in any dispute with a taxpayer. Seller Compensation Any business required to collect and remit the sales tax may keep 0.5 percent of tax receipts to offset compliance costs. State Administration Any state choosing to do so may administer, collect and enforce the sales tax. In order to qualify as an "administering state," a state must conform its sales tax base to the federal base. States may keep 1.0 percent of their collections to offset expenses. Mortgage Interest Home mortgage interest is not "consumption" and therefore is not taxable. Principal Residences Sales tax on mortgage principal is payable in equal installments over the life of a 30-year mortgage. Persons who are homeowners on the date of enactment will be deemed to have paid the sales tax on their home. Used Property Credit In the case of a taxable good being resold as used (i.e. home or car), a credit shall be given to the seller equal to the amount of tax paid by the buyer of the used property. Casual Sales The sales tax does not apply to any "casual or isolated sale" by any person not engaged in an active trade or business, so long as the gross receipts from the sale do not exceed more than $2,000 in any one instance or more than $5,000 in a year (i.e. garage sales or private sales). Liability to Collect In general, the seller of any taxable good or service has the liability to collect the sales tax, unless the buyer has an exemption certification. Conversions Any good purchased for business use and converted to personal use shall be taxable. Any good purchased for personal use and converted to business use shall be subject to a credit. Governments Federal, state and local governments must collect taxes on any sales and pay taxes on any purchases. Non-Profits Dues and donations to non-profits are not taxable. Sales of non-profits and purchases by non-profits are taxable. Financial Services Financial intermediation services are subject to a tax on both explicit and implicit service fees. Credits and Refunds Credit and refund mechanisms are established for overpayments. Penalties Penalties for failure to register or to collect or remit taxes are established. Reference the entire H.R. 2001, National Retail Sales Tax Act of 1997. Hotline: (800) 767-7577Fax: (703) 368-5843 Citizens for an Alternative Tax System 10600-A Crestwood Drive, Manassas, VA, 20109-3432 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no
[CTRL] OEN 3/29/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Kosovo/Vietnam U.S. Prepares Public for Wider War The war propaganda machine is in full swing WASHINGTON - President Bill Clinton said Sunday that ''continued brutality and repression'' by Serbian forces in Kosovo underscored the need for NATO to persevere in its air assault on Yugoslavia, and offered his strong support to the alliance decision to broaden the military operation. In brief comments from the White House lawn, Mr. Clinton said that he had been in contact over the weekend with the leaders of Britain, France, Germany and Italy, and that ''all of them share our determination to respond strongly to Mr. Milosevic's continued campaign of inhumane violence against the Kosovar Albanian people.'' Mr. Clinton praised the bravery of the F-117A Stealth fighter pilot who was downed Saturday and of the soldiers who rescued him. The Yugoslav mission ''entails real risk,'' he said. NATO and American officials have reported evidence of serious and widespread atrocities by Serbian forces against ethnic Albanians in the Yugoslav province of Kosovo. The NATO campaign was intended in part to deter such violence. As the president turned to walk to a waiting helicopter for a flight to his retreat in Camp David, Maryland, a reporter asked whether the bombing campaign might be driving the atrocities. ''Absolutely not!'' Mr. Clinton shouted back. Other American officials have said that Mr. Milosevic was prepared to launch a campaign of ''ethnic cleansing'' against Kosovar Albanians before NATO launched its air strikes last week. Earlier Sunday, a series of U.S. officials sought to prepare public opinion for a widening of the conflict. In television appearances, they continued to insist that there were no plans to send ground troops unless a peace agreement is reached. Defense Secretary William Cohen said Sunday that the NATO air campaign would be widened, despite the loss Saturday of a U.S. F-117A Stealth fighter. ''It will be intensified,'' Mr. Cohen said on NBC. ''We are going to move into a wider array of targets including not only those dealing with command-and-control structures, ammunition dumps, but also start to go after the forces in the field.'' But U.S. officials insisted that no U.S. ground troops would be committed to Kosovo without a peace plan.. ''We have no intention of doing that,'' said Samuel Berger, President Clinton's national security adviser, on ABC. Asked whether the ''no intention'' phrase could mask a plan to introduce troops later, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright referred to Mr. Clinton's earlier statement, saying flatly, ''he will not send ground'' troops. General Henry Shelton, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that to enter Kosovo without a peace settlement ''would involve hundreds of thousands of ground troops over a rather protracted period of time.'' Several officials acknowledged that bombs and cruise missiles alone could not stop the small units of soldiers and security forces blamed for atrocities. But they said NATO's assault could induce Yugoslavia's president, Slobodan Milosevic, to call a halt. Even ''with 200,000 troops on the ground, you couldn't stop the pistol and the rifle,'' Mr. Berger said. But ''we can substantially change the calculus of Mr. Milosevic as to what the cost of this is,'' and ''deter this kind of action in the future.'' Administration spokesmen, while cautious about ground troops, took care not to offer Mr. Milosevic any succor by suggesting any other limits to U.S. determination. Asked whether NATO bombs and missiles might target Belgrade, Mr. Berger said ''I would not rule out any target.'' As an alternative to a ground deployment, some in Congress have proposed arming the Kosovar Albanians. Administration spokesmen, however, resisted that approach. Now that the NATO operation is under way, several critics of Mr. Clinton's foreign policy have rallied behind the action. Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, said the United States now had no option but to prevail. ''We're in it, and we have to win it,' he said on ABC. Asked about the use of ground troops, Mr. McCain said the United States must ''exercise every option.'' ''We are a superior power and we must win this conflict whatever it takes,'' he said. International Herald Tribune, March 29, 1999 Russian Follies New Yorker Magazine Says Iraq Made $800,000 Payoff to Primakov Gee, I've only been talking about intelligence agencies spying on banking transactions for the past 4 years. Think maybe the nay-sayers will finally shut up and pay attention? NEW YORK (Reuters) - The New Yorker magazine reported Sunday that British and U.S. intelligence officials believe Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov was paid off by Iraq to obtain strategic materials from Moscow to build up its nuclear weapons stockpile. Pulitzer-Prize
[CTRL] Fwd: FC: Feds abandon formal Know Your Customer regulation
...But current laws are already invasive. Background: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18311.html http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/18271.html === FEDERAL DEPOSIT INSURANCE CORPORATION 12 CFR Part 326 RIN 3064-AC19 Minimum Security Devices and Procedures and Bank Secrecy Act Compliance AGENCY: Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. ACTION: Withdrawal of notice of Proposed Rulemaking. --- SUMMARY: The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) published a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in the Federal Register on December 7, 1998. The proposed regulation would have required state nonmember banks to develop and maintain ``Know Your Customer'' programs. The FDIC received 254,394 comments from the public during the comment period. The overwhelming majority of the commenters were strongly opposed to the adoption of the proposed regulation. After considering the issues raised by the comments, and in view of the strong opposition to the proposed regulation, the FDIC is withdrawing the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking. DATES: Proposed subpart C to part 326 is withdrawn on March 29, 1999. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Carol A. Mesheske, Chief, Special Activities Section, Division of Supervision (202) 898-6750, or Karen L. Main, Counsel, Legal Division (202) 898-8838. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: I. Background On December 7, 1998, the FDIC published a proposed amendment to Part 326 of the FDIC's Rules and Regulations, ``Minimum Security Devices and Procedures and Bank Secrecy Act Compliance'' (63 FR 67529, Dec. 7, 1998). The proposed amendment was intended to provide guidance to state nonmember banks to facilitate and ensure their compliance with existing federal reporting and recordkeeping requirements, such as those found in the Bank Secrecy Act. It was intended to help protect the integrity and reputation of the financial services industry and assist the government in its efforts to combat money laundering and other illegal activities that might be occurring through financial institutions. The proposed amendment required each state nonmember bank to develop a program to determine the identity of its customers; determine its customers' sources of funds; determine the normal and expected transactions of its customers; monitor account activity for transactions that are inconsistent with those normal and expected transactions; and report any transactions of its customers that are determined to be suspicious, in accordance with the FDIC's existing suspicious activity reporting regulations. The FDIC's proposal was substantially the same as the regulations proposed by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, and the Office of Thrift Supervision in December 1998. The FDIC issued the proposed amendment pursuant to its authority under section 8(s)(1) of the Federal Deposit Insurance Act (FDI Act) (12 USC 1818(s)(1)), as amended by section 2596(a)(2) of the Crime Control Act of 1990 (Pub. L. 101-647), which requires the FDIC to issue regulations directing banks under its supervision to establish and maintain internal procedures reasonably designed to ensure and monitor compliance with the Bank Secrecy Act. The FDIC also relied on its general rulemaking authority under section 9(a) of the FDI Act (12 USC 1819(a)). II. Comments Received During the comment period, the FDIC received 254,394 comments from the public. Comments were received from community banks, multinational or large regional banks, members of Congress, trade and industry research groups, and regulatory bodies, as well as the general public. Only 105 commenters were in favor of the proposed regulation. The overwhelming majority of commenters were individual, private citizens who voiced very strong opposition to the proposal as an invasion of personal privacy. Other issues raised by these commenters included that the FDIC lacked the authority to issue the proposal; the cost of any Know Your Customer program would be passed on to customers; and the regulation would be ineffective in preventing money laundering and other illicit financial activities. Banks, bank holding companies and other banking trade groups that commented on the proposal uniformly opposed the proposed amendment. Their concerns included the following: (1) the regulation would be very costly to implement, especially for small banks; (2) the Know Your Customer program would invade customer privacy; (3) commercial banks would be unfairly disadvantaged and lose customers if all segments of the financial services industry are not covered; (4) compliance with the regulation would divert resources from Y2K preparation; (5) the FDIC lacks authority to adopt the regulation; (6) public confidence in the banking industry would be harmed by the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Disney Deception
-Caveat Lector- There was never a doubt in my mind that O.J. Simpson had been set up.this is one reason to stop use of DNA testing. To be perfectly candidthe news media really turned on OJ, when Johnny Cochran went to Court with 6 Black Muslims as guards, who offered their services because of threats. I do know this, F. Lee Bailey knew the scoop of Pattie Hearst kidnapping, and he knows the truth what happened to O.J. Cui Bononot OJ.remember the 911 operator"and Mrs. Simpson, what did you do that made Mr. Simpson so angry", as if they did not know. OJ was a runner; he loved football and that made him good; during this time frame nearly every black hero in America was being taken downMichael Jackson, tried in the media; Michael Jordan, father murdered; Bill Cosby, well look at this - his son killed by the side of the road, with a white woman with a skirt up to her hips, standing at his side; but OJ Simpson, murderer - no, I did not believe this. If Sam Shepard got a raw deal, O.J. was worseand remember, the series the Fugitive based on Shepard.as O.J. engaged in the slow speed chase on the highways, the Fugitive was being marketed on the TV. Someone is building the crime before the fact...such is the way of assassins living in the shadows, to date have gone by undetected like Jack the Ripper. The assassins now would have you believe that those assassinated, pulled the trigger. I think Clinton had feet of clayand as in Daniel when the time comes, the CIA/Illuminati, will do him in when he no longer can carry the ball. Did it ever occur to you, that Bill Clinton is virtually at this point in time, being held hostage in the Whitehouse. Look at Yeltsin; he looks like a wax dummy; in fact, when he sobered up, he was like Norman Bates Mother in Psycho, since we are alluding to fiction as examples of what will be... Colleen DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kinder, Gentler ...
-Caveat Lector- A major concern after the "end" of the "Cold War" was the divisions between the "SuperPowers" had crumbled right along with the Berlin Wall -- the axiom "better to have a known (and knowing one's) adversary than not" comes into play. What's this? The "Reagan Legacy"? Whatever happened to "strong fences make for good neighbours"? Speaking of "playing", now everyone wants a seat at the table to play in the game. From SalonMagazine.Com The empires strike back AS THE WORLD FOCUSES ON THE BALKANS, THE RETURN OF GERMANY AND JAPAN TO MILITARY ACTION BARELY MADE NEWS. BY JEFF STEIN | They're back. For the first time since their empires lay in sizzling ruins a half-century ago in the waning days of World War II, old Axis partners Germany and Japan went on the offensive this week, firing and bombing outside their borders. As Germany dropped bombs on targets in Yugoslavia, and Japanese warships pursued unmarked spy ships across the Sea of Okhotsk to North Korea, the two powers seemed a shadow of their former ferocious selves militarily, but they crossed a historic, if symbolic, threshold nonetheless. The unprecedented events were widely noted in Europe but virtually unnoticed here amid headlines on the bombast in the Balkans, as NATO warships and missiles pounded Serb targets, and turmoil erupted on Yugoslavia's frontiers with Macedonia and Albania. Even Greece, subjected to Nazi atrocities during the Third Reich's 1941-45 occupation, had little to say about the German Tornadoes dropping bombs to the north, opting instead to denounce the NATO offensive as destabilizing to the region. Even less was made of Japan's first naval engagement since the meltdown of the Imperial Empire in 1945, as Tokyo's warships hotly pursued two unmarked spy ships, disguised as fishing trawlers but bristling with antennae and steaming at unnatural speeds. Japanese military ships, firing warning shots, joined in the chase after the coast guard failed to stop the fleeing vessels, which were moving at high speed. Japanese warplanes also dropped what officials called "warning bombs.'' The spy ships escaped undamaged into North Korean ports, leaving behind a debate across Japan over its proper military role. But the sudden reanimation of the two former military titans is just one more sign of the shifting balance of world power already evident in the conflict over Kosovo. The changing role of Germany is most obvious. Japan and Germany's postwar constitutions, virtually dictated by the Allied victors, strictly limit their military forces to self-defense or, in Berlin's case, action in concert with NATO, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization established in 1949. Germans were prohibited from taking part in Operation Desert Storm, targeting Iraq, in 1991. But currently some 3,000 Germans -- nearly a third of the European and U.S. peace-keeping force for Kosovo -- are deployed in Macedonia, the potato-shaped republic stuck between Kosovo and Greece. Fourteen German warplanes have been bombing Yugoslavia from the soil of another fascist-era ally, Italy. Nazi forces, allied with fascist Croatia, viciously attacked Belgrade in 1941. To some, especially victims and surviving Allied war veterans, the specter of rifle-toting "Huns" on foreign soil and the Japanese Navy pursuing enemy ships across the open sea inevitably evokes new shudders and old nightmares. Those with no memories of the global holocaust -- the vast majority of today's Americans, Europeans and Asians -- will most likely say it's about time that the two economic superpowers started carrying their military weight. Either way, the deployment of German air and ground units abroad this week marks the biggest break yet with the Third Reich's bitter Nazi legacy, positioning a reunified Berlin on the threshold of becoming the inevitable military -- not just financial -- leader of the New Europe. As European papers devoted pages to the World War II memories of Nazi pilots, Germans themselves maintained a stoic aloofness over their historic step back into the Balkans. "There's not a huge debate going on there, no huge demonstrations for or against the involvement in Kosovo," said Claudius Fischbach, a spokesman at the German embassy in Washington. "I think the general feeling is that this was an indispensable step of the international community to avert a deepening humanitarian crisis in Kosovo, that's all." Fischbach added: "No one was looking forward to it." Even Germany's pacifist Green Party supported the German mobilization, though there were pockets of dissent in parliament from individual Greens and former East German communists. The relative quiet was surprising in a country that quickly erupts in protest over fascist sentimentality in the ranks of the Bundeswehr, Germany's 330,000-strong army. In 1991 there were reports that Germany was disappointed it had been prohibited from participating in Desert Storm, but Fischbach called those reports
[CTRL] Kosovo Crisis
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.rockfordinstitute.org/ A HREF="http://www.rockfordinstitute.org/"Chronicles - A Magazine of American Culture/A - Kosovo Crisis In conducting negotiations over the future of Kosovo, the Clinton administration has deliberately kept both the Congress and the American people in the dark. What follows is a detailed analysis of information that is available in the foreign press but has so far received little if any attention in the US. Although the details are complicated, the basic situation is very clear: 1) The Clinton administration is calling for a NATO/US solution to the Kosovo crisis because of a massacre of civilians which allegedly took place in the village of Racak in Kosovo. 2) A French TV crew was present when Yugoslav police took the village and say it was a fire-fight between Yugoslav forces and heavily-armed KLA fighters. Yugoslav forensic authorities have declared the massacre a hoax: dead KLA soldiers, they way, were redressed in civilian clothes and piled into a ditch they had dug. 3) The forensic case has been settled by a Finnish team of physicians brought in by the international community. However, the Finnish teams report has not been made public, even though it is now more than three weeks since the dead have been buried. What is in that report is almost certainly a confirmation of the Yugoslav position: a) because in leaving Yugoslavia the Finns made a statement praising the high professional standards of the Yugoslav forensic pathologists, and b) according to the respected German newspaper Die Welt, the report is "a hot potato" that will undermine the US position, and c) an independent forensics team from Belarus came to the same conclusion as the Yugoslav doctors. The Kosovo crisis is one of the most complex that an American government has ever faced. On one side are the claims (somewhat exaggerated) of majority rule; on the other side are the undisputed facts that Kosovo is, legally, only a region of Serbia and, historically, the very core of the Serbian heartland. Whatever the US decides to do about Kosovo, the Congress and the people have a right to get the full story from the administration, before even considering the use of intimidation and force. Kosovo: The Real Story Prepared by the editors of Chronicles and The Rockford Institute Self-inflicted atrocities and stage-managed "massacres" have paid rich dividends to the Muslim side in Bosnia. In May 1992 the Sarajevo "Breadline Massacre"-with TV crews mysteriously in attendance to film the blood and guts- facilitated the imposition of punitive sanctions against Serbia, some of which are still in force. Indian General Satish Nambiar, UN commander at the time, stated to me (March 6, 1999) that "no UN officer in the field at the time had any doubt that the Muslims did it to themselves in order to get political support and sympathy." In February 1994 the show was repeated at Sarajevos Markale market, with similar results: the Serbs were forced to withdraw heavy weapons around Sarajevo, and were bombed. for the first time by NATO soon thereafter. Subsequent UN investigation concluded that the Muslims did it to themselves (as confirmed by Lord Owen, General Sir Michael Rose and others), but the report was suppressed on US insistence. In August 1995 the "Trznica Massacre" in Sarajevo was the opener for some three weeks of massive American-led air strikes against the Bosnian Serbs, facilitating a Croat-Muslim offensive that ethnically cleansed western Bosnia of its Serb inhabitants. No independent investigation of the incident as demanded by the Serbs was even allowed this time. Right now the Administration is pressuring the Serbs to accept a NATO force of 28,000 on their territory, including 4,000 US servicemen, as a result of yet another stage-managed "massacre"-in the village of Racak in Kosovo--last January. That "massacre" resulted in Albrights and Clintons claim that no solution is acceptable in Kosovo unless it included a NATO force. By now the demand for Serbia to open its borders to some tens of thousands of foreign soldiers, or face NATO bombing, has become an immutable tenet in Washingtons approach to the region. The fact that the event which enabled the interventionists within the Administration to formulate such policy was entirely bogus, while largely known in Europe, is being actively suppressed by the US. The facts of the case are as follows: On January 16, 1999, from coast to coast US media went into a state of righteous rage over the "discovery" of 45 dead Albanians at Racak, allegedly "civilians butchered in cold blood." The head of the OSCE observer mission in Kosovo, American diplomat William Walker, immediately and categorically asserted that the Serbs were to blame. Belgrade's claim that the forty five bodies were in fact KLA guerrillas fallen during the fight in the surrounding areas was scornfully rejected in Washington as "Serbian propaganda." Not
[CTRL] Serbian Cartoonist Describes Red Mushroom Cloud
-Caveat Lector- NOTE: Following is the latest e-mail from from Serbian cartoonist Sasa Rekazic (aka Aleksandar Zograf), creator of Alas!, Life Under Sanctions, and Psychonaut. He has been witnessing the bombing of Pancevo by NATO and is managing to stay in contact with the international comics community despite his computer being down. Mack White [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.swankarmy.net/dutch5/comixnow/ March, 28th, 1999 14:00 Dear friends, my computer is not working at the moment, so I wasnt able to sen you e-mails... or to write back to all of yoiu who were so kind enough to write... I will try to convince a friend who is keen on computers to come and fix the damn thing! I heard from the others that it is not easy to connect, anyway... Yesterday we saw from the window another struke at the same spot at UTVA airplane factory plant... how will you feel if you see the red mushroom cloud over your home town? I got to say that still it looked pretty impressive, with a lot of twinkling shiny sparks around... it caused a fire again, and about 30 houses in the sorroundings were damaged by detonation... its funny our frined Nandor was in front of his department building, together with a couple of neighbors... they heard the aircraft, which fired a missile from someplace over their department building, straight to UTVA Factory plant... they were about 1 Km from the place of bombing... it happened at 20.50, last evening... Ive been working on a comics workshop since last September, and it is called kuhinja (kitchen), as it is happening every saturday behind the large table in our kitchen... I gathered a group of cartoonists from Pancevo, Belgrade and the towns in the sorroundings... the youngest of them, Vuk Palibrk 12 years old called me yesterday, and asked: are we going to have a workshop this saturday? I said No, its too complicated, raids are on during the day, its not easy to come to this part of the town, etc... the other time when that kid made me laugh was when he saw Julie Doucet, who had an exhibition here in Pancevo only a month before this madness started... she looks better as a comic character than in real life said Vuk. Im sure Julie is going to kill the little bastard, as soon as she gets him! I spoke to another cartoonist that many of you know Wostok, he is OK, they still havent dropped any bombs at his native town of Vrsac... at the day when the strikes began, Wostok made a short video film, with his father playing STALIN! Here we are exposed to shameless propaganda on the State TV, it is so horrible... the regimes police has closed down two independent Radio Stations and the Police came into the Radio Pancevo offices, and forced them to tone down their reports, etc... At the same time, its hard to say waht its happening, because we are so badly informed... they said that about 130 people died duiuring the several days of NATO strikes... could be less, could be more, who knows? Until soon, Sasa and Gordana DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness?
-Caveat Lector- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got this article from Popular Science's website at www.popsci.com. AOL Keyword: popsci Jeff What's Really Causing Gulf War Illness? One man's dogged research points to an unusual-and likely-suspect... by Gunjan Sinha Associate Editor While the world was watching cruise missiles descend on Iraq like giant blurry sparklers in the night sky, Blackhawk helicopter pilot Sharon Nicolson was ferrying special forces and Navy SEALS. It was February 1991, Operation Desert Storm. Her chopper flew near Patriot missiles that were obliterating Iraqi Scuds and was involved in several air raids. While Nicolson was airborne, the wind whipped up sandstorms so severe that she rarely ever saw anything clearly, including the ground. But something else that Nicholson couldn't see would soon turn one of the shortest wars in history into the longest nightmare of her life. -- -- More than 5 million American civilians with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia Syndrome, rheumatoid arthritis, and several other chronic, long- lasting diseases experience symptoms similar to Gulf War Illness. -- -- That April, after the war ended, Nicolson returned to Fort Campbell, Kentucky, to continue Army pilot training. But she slowly began to experience disturbing symptoms. She found herself sweating in her sleep, and her joints ached. Dragging herself out of bed each morning, she sometimes couldn't see straight. One by one, she failed every one of the Army's routine physical strength tests, and eventually she dropped out of flight training. Enter Garth Nicolson, chairman of tumor biology at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston-and also Sharon's stepfather. With Sharon's doctors offering nothing more than a prescription for rest and relaxation, Nicolson began experimenting on his own to find a cure. He searched the medical literature for similar illnesses and scrutinized their treatments. Some of Sharon's symptoms resembled those caused by certain bacterial infections. So Nicolson tried a series of antibiotics until he found one that seemed to work, a drug called doxycycline. After taking it for almost a year, Sharon finally recovered. A Little-Known Attacker Larger than viruses yet smaller than bacteria, mycoplasmas are the smallest self-replicating life form. They have been implicated in many diseases, but a clear link has been difficult to prove. Often, mycoplasmas latch onto white blood cells, which are part of the body's disease defenses, with a hook-like tip; then they transmit chemical signals that force blood cells to behave abnormally. Mycoplasmas can burrow deep inside cells, making them difficult to detect. Infographics by Seward Hung. But that wasn't the end of the mystery malady. Other vets from Sharon's division, and even their family members, were falling ill and turning to Nicolson for advice. "Even without a diagnosis, we saw that the antibiotics were helping people recover. We decided right then that we were going to have to prove this [had a biological cause]," says Nicolson, a feisty middle-aged man with a mop of dense silver hair and mottled eyebrows as thick as hedges. He'd ruled out the placebo effect because certain antibiotics like penicillin didn't work. And since family members were also falling ill, he assumed it was something that was being transmitted. Nicolson didn't realize it at the time, but his quest to find what ailed his stepdaughter would consume him for the next four years. He began by compiling a list of possible culprits based on organisms that were known to cause similar symptoms. These included brucella, coxiella, anthrax, and a group of poorly characterized microorganisms called mycoplasmas-amorphous microscopic organisms larger than viruses and related to bacteria-which he had only learned about in 1991 after reading a newspaper article about symptoms they cause in AIDS patients. When Nicolson tested veterans' blood, one microorganism kept popping up over and over again: Mycoplasma fermentans-the most poorly studied bug on the list and the one he now contends is associated with the ailment known as Gulf War Illness (GWI). In studies with almost 200 Gulf War veterans who suffer from aching joints, unrelenting fatigue, headaches, and numerous other maladies estimated to affect as many as 100,000 Americans who served during the Gulf War, Nicolson has found M. fermentans nestled inside the cells of almost half of all cases. Even more compelling, most patients recovered and then tested negative for the microbe after taking the antibiotic doxycycline. In his controversial research, Garth Nicolson blames little-known microbes called mycoplasmas for Gulf War Illness. Photograph courtesy of Michael Rutt. A major breakthrough, one would think, since there is no other
Re: [CTRL] New Editors
-Caveat Lector- Welcome Alamaine and Ric. I've enjoyed reading many of your posts. Hilary -- From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] New Editors Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 8:19 PM -Caveat Lector- CTRL has added two editors, Linda and Goat are both still out a workin' and that just leaves Ted and I, plus Charles the Hammer, whose life is oh so busy. So please welcome [EMAIL PROTECTED](Alamaine Ratliff) and [EMAIL PROTECTED](Ric Carter). This will let Alamaine's posts come directly , without format problems and Ric can answer questions to his posts. CTRL will soon be three years old, and still in swaddling, but not to bad with no money and all volunteers. I thank one and all for your participation in our informational . . . journey, Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Howard R. Davis III [EMAIL PROTECTED] So what IS your definition of "socialism"? There does not seem to be a clear definition in the web site mentioned and there is none that I can find in the following two messages. As with all human Games, religious/political/economic/artistic belief- systems, 'socialism' means whatever the speaker WISHES it to mean. All such Games are inaugurated and manipulated by Game Masters, who create and promulgate Game Rules that define the realm and content of Play in that Game. [And Games tend to fragment into competing and mutually- exclusive sub-Games, but that's another point...] For instance: All men are created equal. [Game Rule of Jeffersonian Democracy] All men and women are equal. [Game Rule of Liberal Democracy] All entities are equal. [Buddhist, Radical Environmentalist rule] So, every sub-Game in Political/Economic arenas will establish one or more Rules defining Socialism for the purpose of Play [activity and discourse] within that sub-Game. That no group of Game factions can agree on their definitions is irrelevant; Stalinists, Maoists, Nazis, Libertarians, LaRouchers, Militiamen are all Playing separate Games, with only minimal RealWorld connexion - usually as their Players are merrily slaughtering each other. That's what humans do... I'll expound more on my Games Hypothesis in future posts. Ciao --Ric DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Kosovo - Why? #1
-Caveat Lector- !-- Beginning of Information on Kosovo -- from the serbs themselves A HREF="http://www.serbia-info.com/"Click here: Serbia Info News / Front page/A A HREF="http://www.sinkers.org/kosovo-demoMar2499/"Click here: "End U.S. War in Kosovo!", Washington DC 03.24.99/A Subj:ANOTHER MANUFACTURED WAR? Date: 3/27/99 6:25:53 PM Eastern Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Activist Mailing List) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Activist Mailing List) Activist Mailing List - http://users.westnet.gr/~cgian/ Kosovo Crisis In conducting negotiations over the future of Kosovo, the Clinton administration has deliberately kept both the Congress and the American people in the dark. What follows is a detailed analysis of information that is available in the foreign press but has so far received little if any attention in the US. Although the details are complicated, the basic situation is very clear: 1) The Clinton administration is calling for a NATO/US solution to the Kosovo crisis because of a massacre of civilians which allegedly took place in the village of Racak in Kosovo. 2) A French TV crew was present when Yugoslav police took the village and say it was a fire-fight between Yugoslav forces and heavily-armed KLA fighters. Yugoslav forensic authorities have declared the massacre a hoax: dead KLA soldiers, they way, were redressed in civilian clothes and piled into a ditch they had dug. 3) The forensic case has been settled by a Finnish team of physicians brought in by the international community. However, the Finnish teams report has not been made public, even though it is now more than three weeks since the dead have been buried. What is in that report is almost certainly a confirmation of the Yugoslav position: a) because in leaving Yugoslavia the Finns made a statement praising the high professional standards of the Yugoslav forensic pathologists, and b) according to the respected German newspaper Die Welt, the report is "a hot potato" that will undermine the US position, and c) an independent forensics team from Belarus came to the same conclusion as the Yugoslav doctors. The Kosovo crisis is one of the most complex that an American government has ever faced. On one side are the claims (somewhat exaggerated) of majority rule; on the other side are the undisputed facts that Kosovo is, legally, only a region of Serbia and, historically, the very core of the Serbian heartland. Whatever the US decides to do about Kosovo, the Congress and the people have a right to get the full story from the administration, before even considering the use of intimidation and force. Kosovo: The Real Story Prepared by the editors of Chronicles and The Rockford Institute Self-inflicted atrocities and stage-managed "massacres" have paid rich dividends to the Muslim side in Bosnia. In May 1992 the Sarajevo "Breadline Massacre"-with TV crews mysteriously in attendance to film the blood and guts- facilitated the imposition of punitive sanctions against Serbia, some of which are still in force. Indian General Satish Nambiar, UN commander at the time, stated to me (March 6, 1999) that "no UN officer in the field at the time had any doubt that the Muslims did it to themselves in order to get political support and sympathy." In February 1994 the show was repeated at Sarajevos Markale market, with similar results: the Serbs were forced to withdraw heavy weapons around Sarajevo, and were bombed. for the first time by NATO soon thereafter. Subsequent UN investigation concluded that the Muslims did it to themselves (as confirmed by Lord Owen, General Sir Michael Rose and others), but the report was suppressed on US insistence. In August 1995 the "Trznica Massacre" in Sarajevo was the opener for some three weeks of massive American-led air strikes against the Bosnian Serbs, facilitating a Croat-Muslim offensive that ethnically cleansed western Bosnia of its Serb inhabitants. No independent investigation of the incident as demanded by the Serbs was even allowed this time. Right now the Administration is pressuring the Serbs to accept a NATO force of 28,000 on their territory, including 4,000 US servicemen, as a result of yet another stage-managed "massacre"-in the village of Racak in Kosovo--last January. That "massacre" resulted in Albrights and Clintons claim that no solution is acceptable in Kosovo unless it included a NATO force. By now the demand for Serbia to open its borders to some tens of thousands of foreign soldiers, or face NATO bombing, has become an immutable tenet in Washingtons approach to the region. The fact that the event which enabled the interventionists within the Administration to formulate such policy was entirely bogus, while largely known in Europe, is being actively suppressed by the US. The facts of the case are as follows: On January 16, 1999, from coast to coast US media went into a state of righteous
[CTRL] [19] America's Secret Establishment
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: America's Secret Establishment An introduction to The Order of Skull Bones by ANTONY C. SUTTON Liberty House Press 2027 Iris Billings, Montana 59102 1986 - Highly reccomended. There is more in this book than can be presented here. Many charts and reproductions of orginal source material.As always, Caveat Lector. In stock at: A-albionic Research, PO Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220-0273 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lloyd Miller, Research Director) Om K - Preface The operational history of The Order can only be understood within a framework of the Hegelian dialectic process. Quite simply this is the notion that conflict creates history. From this axiom it follows that controlled conflict can create a predetermined history. For example: When the Trilateral Commission, discusses "managed conflict", as it does extensively in its literature, the Commission implies the managed use of conflict for long run predeter- mined ends - not for the mere random exercise of manipulative con- trol to solve a problem. The dialectic takes this Trilateral "managed conflict" process one step further. In Hegelian terms, an existing force (the thesis) generates a counterforce (the antithesis). Conflict between the two forces results in the forming of a synthesis. Then the process starts all over again: Thesis vs. antithesis results in synthesis. The synthesis sought by the Establishment is called the New World Order. Without controlled conflict this New World Order will not come about. Random individual actions of persons in society would not lead to this synthesis, it's artificial, therefore it has to be created. And this is being done with the calculated, managed, use of conflict. And all the while this synthesis is being sought, there is no profit in playing the involved parties against one another. This explains why the International bankers backed the Nazis, the Soviet Union, North Korea, North Viet- nam, ad nauseam, against the United States. The "conflict" built profits while pushing the world ever closer to One World Government. The process continues today. We apologize for the poor quality of some documents included in this volume. These are the best copies in existence today. In fact, it is a miracle they survived at all . . . For example, letters between Patriarch Amos Pinchot (Club D. 95) and Patriarch William Kent (Club D. 85) would almost certainly have been destroyed if a New York State Com- mission had not seized the documents as part of an investigation into subversion in the United States. However, even where contents cannot be clearly identified, the very existence of even a fragmentary text proves a vital point: There is a joint calculated effort among Patriarchs to bring about a specific objective. Furthermore, the diverse conflicting nature of these efforts, commented upon even in letters between Patriarchs, can only be explained in the terms of the Hegelian dialectic. In brief, the existence of these documents is just as important as the nature of the contents. It demonstrates joint planned actions, ergo: A Conspiracy! April 1984Antony C. Sutton Memorandum Number One: Created Conflict And The Dialectic Process 1. INTRODUCTION The first volume of this series (Introduction To The Order described in broad terms the nature and objectives of The Order. Our first hypothesis, that the U.S. was ruled by an elite, secret socie- ty, was supported by documentary evidence: such a secret society does exist, its membership is concealed, and disclosure of membership is not a voluntary effort. Further, since publication of the first volume, the Sterling Library at Yale University which has major holdings of their records has refused to allow researchers further access to Russell Trust papers (the legal name for The Order). We also argued in the first volume that the operations of The Order must be seen and explained in terms of the Hegelian dialectic proess. Their operations cannot be explained in terms of any other philosophy: therefore The Order cannot be described as "right" or "left," secular or religious, Marxist or Capitalist. The Order, and its objectives, is all of these and none of these. In Hegelian philosophy the conflict of political "right" and political "left," or thesis and antithesis in Hegelian terms, is essential to the forward movement of history and historical change itself. Conflict between thesis and antithesis brings about a synthesis, i.e., a new historical situation. Our descriptive world history in the West and Marxist countries con- sists only of description and analysis within a political framework of "right" or "left." For example, historical work published in the West looks at communism and socialism either through the eyes of financial capitalism or Marxism. Historical work published in the Soviet Union looks at the West only
[CTRL] Kosovo - Why? #2
-Caveat Lector- Some one is trying to give the US a bad name. Will there be a bogus chemical attack on US soil next to cover up. Bottom line - The Earth could be thought of as source code for DNA. How are these people doing their documentation and where are they keeping it? What it comes down to is that they are showing that a Carbon based life form is self destructive. They have put us on the same footing as food animals, The mentality that has done this is psychologically self destructive and when / if we get to the stars or another culture (Intergalactic) takes over the human food animal they (that profess to have done this for the purity of the race) will be the first to go. Why? They have shown themselves to be the most mindless of the food Humans. http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/contents.htm http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/chem.htm Unauthorized Biography of George Bush - Online at http://www.radix.net/~tarpley/bushb.htm http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/time_line.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [5] Mellon's Millions
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: Mellon's Millions Harvey O'Conner©1933 Blue Ribbon Books New York, N.Y. --[5]-- 5 Aluminum Becomes Mellon-metal F Andrew Mellon was content to accept his father's Nineteenth Century social ideas, he quickly discarded allegiance to the industrial system of small scale competitive production on which they were based. Hardly a single merger of jangling interests in Pittsburgh in the years following 1898 failed to bear the impress of Mellon money or Mellon organizing. To him, combination became the life of trade. Whether in coal, street railways, glass, natural gas, water, public service, the magic wand of Union Trust brought coordination, harmony in place of competition and price slashing. If stockholders often failed to profit, and the public had to pay higher prices, at any rate the rewards to the promoters were ample. Unquestionably Mellon's masterpiece in monopoly is the Aluminum Company of America. To have fashioned the nation's only 100 per cent large-scale monopoly from a mineral which comprises one-twelfth the earth's surface, may to future generations seem his outstanding achievement. Lucky accident placed aluminum at Mellon's doorstep; a superb organization propagated its virtues, applied its uses; but it was the Government itself that cooperated with the Pittsburgh banker to force industry to beat a path to his door. For twentyone years it shielded him from domestic competition by throwing the mantle of patent protection around his process of manufacture; thereafter tariff walls along the American seacoast kept his European allies from falling out of line in the world-wide lockstep of aluminum prices. Never before had one man cornered a metal so useful and essential to mankind. When the 33-year-old banker took charge of aluminum's destinies, it was the rare bauble of kings, an ornament to besilked and bejeweled ladies. But no year since 1888 has failed to turn up a new use. Today it is essentially the metal of the Twentieth Century, the metal of strength and speed and beauty. To the future belongs Mellon-metal: aluminum planes, ships, railway cars, automobiles will speed through air, water or along the earth's crust. Silver from clay, they called it in 1884, when architects capped the Washington Monument with the precious substance, aluminum, then selling at the price of silver, $16 an ounce. Napoleon III patronized its production and ladies of the Empire delighted to feel its feathery lightness in spangles on throat, bosom and wrist. Chemists and metallurgists even then were conspiring over bubbling pots and furnaces, to find more efficient processes to wrest aluminum from powdery alumina, and alumina from bauxite, the whitish mineral whose ultimate reduction presented such mysteries. Official biographers of the American aluminum monopoly give Charles M. Hall, Oberlin graduate, credit for the American invention of the process for reducing alumina by electrolysis in a bath of cryolite, an obscure mineral from Greenland's icy mountains. Oberlin was unable to furnish a furnace large enough for further experiments. Boston capitalists who kept him in supplies for six months decided the young inventor was pulling their legs. A Cleveland banker praised him, but had no money for such esoteric researches. It was then, in 1887, that he turned to the Cowles brothers, proprietors of the Electric Smelting Aluminum Company whose Brush dynamo at Lockport, N. Y., was the largest in the world. The Cowles had been producing aluminum alloyed in copper for several years. Here versions begin to differ. The Cowles declined to accept Hall's process in return for a share in the company, assert the official biographers. "Let us go to Pittsburgh," said Hall to his brother. "There is a city that is looking for ideas." To Pittsburgh they went, to sell their ideas, or as Alfred Cowles later insisted, to sell his ideas. Henry Phipps, Carnegie Brothers partner, and later allied with Mellon in Union Trust, is credited with being the first steel man to employ a chemist to examine the seething contents of furnaces, placing his industry on a laboratory basis. Such a chemist was Alfred E. Hunt, graduate of Massachusetts Institute of Technology and later superintendent for Park Brothers Steel Works in Pittsburgh. In 1882 he and George H. Clapp formed the Pittsburgh Testing Laboratories, whose purpose it was to ally experimental science* with the rough and ready men who made or bought products of Pittsburgh's iron and steel mills. To Hunt and Clapp, Inventor Hall explained his process. Where hard- headed business men had turned him away, the metallurgists gave respectful attention, and backed it with $20,000 for an experimental plant. By November, 1888, Hall was turning out fifty pounds a day, to sell at $2 a pound. The day's product was locked in the safe at night. Soon it overflowed the safe. The newly organized Pittsburgh Reduction Company was overwhelmed by the very efficiency of
Re: [CTRL] Pentagon considers ground operations
-Caveat Lector- From: Dan S [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentagon considers ground operations "The White House yesterday repeated its assurance that President Clinton has no "intention" of dispatching ground troops to Kosovo, but there was growing talk of just that both in Washington and Europe..." http://www.washtimes.com/news/news1.html This conflict has been going on for centuries. An intervening third party (that's us) will only cause more hardship in the immediate sense and will not solve anything as THE PROBLEM will not be addressed but only bombed! Unless NATO is prepared to keep peace keeping troops in the area for the next several hundred years I suggest another plan be devised. I am not suggesting allowing murders to occur (and yes it is on both sides - history alone in a 400 year conflict should assure you of that). My recommendation (for what it's worth) is to relocate the Albanians to Albania and bill Yugoslavia for the trouble - say several billion dollars. If this situation were merely an issue of saving lives that could be accomplished. Evidently, that does not appear to be the objective. It is looking like this whole mess was staged (what's new?). It is looking more and more like Iran has been stirring up the recent trouble here. Now, I'm half Lebanese so, I'm not eager to point a finger at an Arab nation, but it is looking as if Iran is causing some trouble here. And still the plot thickens...We have drug trafficking here (or so some reports are suggesting that) and this could be a drug war to see who is the King Pin. This would explain Clinton's interest in this mess. There is a corporate interest too. Use up our missiles and bombs and we will just HAVE to purchase more. Ching, Ching, I read the cash register ringing to the tune of multi-billion dollar deals. Russia is showing interest in being Papa Bear again and has the opportunity to corral a few more countries into its den. China is just being pissy and outraged (what is new?) though they too have interests in stirring up trouble and getting the focus off of them for awhile. Not to mention an interest in drugs, arms and oil. France is being arrogant and slimy as usual and seems to be cutting a few deals while the iron is hot. Look to them to be making some bucks off of this one and to end up with a few interesting allies. As I read more and more accounts of what is occurring it seems that many countries view this as a day in a candy store and are greedy positioning themselves to get their share of the goodies. Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo - Why? #3
-Caveat Lector- Ramblings, from someone that is wondering what the is going on. http://www.workers.org/ww/1999/kosovo0401.html U.S. attacks little Yugoslavia A day of infamy All the excuses given by President Bill Clinton cannot conceal the naked truth: the world's biggest nuclear power, a country of some 272 million people, has launched a war against a small, mostly agricultural country of 10 million people on the other side of the globe. "Small, Mostly Agricultural Country"? Wonder if they were not intrested in having GM (Genetically Modified) food and Monsanto in their country and they are being used as a example? from: http://www.rockfordinstitute.org/ A HREF="http://www.rockfordinstitute.org/"Chronicles - A Magazine of American Culture/A 2) A French TV crew was present when Yugoslav police took the village and say it was a fire-fight between Yugoslav forces and heavily-armed KLA fighters. Yugoslav forensic authorities have declared the massacre a hoax: dead KLA soldiers, they way, were redressed in civilian clothes and piled into a ditch they had dug. Makes me wonder who is backing the KLA? Could it be the CIA? Or maybe Monsanto, with Bill Clinton and Bush Sr.'s blessing. If they can get the Libary of Congress and the Vatican taken out then they would be able to re-write history. How? By showing that the Constution and the way of life that the 10 Commandments advicate is not working. They would not want that way of thought to surface again would they? Laura DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?
-Caveat Lector- I just want to respond to the remarks made by Chelsea and Hillary Clinton regarding the what FBI or Secret Service areto them. " TRAINED PIGS " How dare they??!! These men are there to protect their sorry lives with their own if need be, and this is how they look upon them? If I were one of those chosen to protect either one of them, I'd definately side-step the bullet intended for them. Then that would make Chelsea and mommy "two pigs" By the way Hillary, how was Vince baby in bed? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist
-Caveat Lector- Here are the dictionary meanings of the words socialism and capitalism. Both these systems have problems as I see it. Many people call Clinton a socialist because he was elected under the guise of promoting social programs, being a man "for the people." Obviously this is not the case. Don't look at what he stands for in idealism, look at his actions. Would a socialist end welfare? I don't think so. That is only one example. I won't give more or I'll get on an anti-Clinton rant which isn't productive to discussion. My comments are in brackets []. so*cial*ism (noun) First appeared 1837 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods [ In a practical way of thinking, governments only subdue people. Giving the government the power to own everything and to distribute it as it sees fit is a big mistake. It will favor those who favor giving more power to the government and the government will not be "fair" at all. This is a "Statist" form of government and only the "State" will prosper.] 2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property [ As poor as I am I still would not want to give everything to the State. This is a total lack of Freedom and amounts to nothing more than slavery. Do you who advocate socialism want to be the slaves, or is your idea that you will be the Masters... the government?] b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state [ Same as (1) above] 3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done [ Some may take this to mean that everyone gets the same and all people are equal. I take this to mean that those who work more will get paid the same as those who don't work at all. To my way of thinking, those who are productive should get more.] cap*i*tal*ism (noun) First appeared 1877 : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market [ I favor this system much more than socialism, but with some modifications. Corporations are a problem because they buy votes from the government and run the country which isn't much different from socialism, it is Statist in this form. Capitalism could work much better if changes were made to corporate charters. It makes more sense to me to have corporations owned by the workers within the corporation rather than rich non-workers who only supply capital and take the lion's share of the profits. Capital could be supplied by the government at no interest, no interest means no inflation. ( currently the US gives money to bankers who get rich loaning our money to us) This also equalizes the huge gap between rich and poor. Over a period of time, the poor will virtually disappear. The non-workers in a corporation (managers, presidents, CEOs, paper pushers) would receive the same pay as other workers since everyone contributes... the non-workers would also be elected yearly by the owners. Lobbyists and political donations would not be allowed and government would have very little power over the population. As to those who refuse to work, let them die, for if they are not willing to work they do not deserve to live. As for those who cannot work due to mental or physical disabilities... the corporations would give charity to them since the owners of the corporations would be normal people and not the greedy rich. The owners of the corporations could decide who they want to support. Comments Anyone? Regards, Bob Stokes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
Re: [CTRL] the meaning of the word socialist
-Caveat Lector- --- Bob Stokes wrote: -Caveat Lector- big snip As to those who refuse to work, let them die, for if they are not willing to work they do not deserve to live. As for those who cannot work due to mental or physical disabilities... the corporations would give charity to them since the owners of the corporations would be normal people and not the greedy rich. The owners of the corporations could decide who they want to support. Comments Anyone? Regards, Bob Stokes How would someone such as myself fit into this . I am a stay at home wife and mother . I believe that the primary problem with todays youth gangs , drugs , violence . etc . is the sad fact that most children are primarily left to raise themslves and are highly lacking in both supervision and attention due to todays two income families . Now I realize that many people will argue that they can not make it financially today without two incomes but we have choosen to live a simple lifestyle versus a status quo/materialistic one believing that love is more important than materialistic items to a childs development. An even harder question would be in relation to the single parents , which are so sadly predominate in todays society who truly have no options . Please note that this is in no way a critizism of any kind , would just like to know your thoughts on this subject . Also would like to note that although we are eligible for food stamps and various other governmental aid , a sad fact in itself as my husband works very hard in a highly specialized field , we do not take it due to the complete demoralization and total sign off of all rights to privacy ( or pride ) which one has to suffer in order to obtain it . Divine~ I am numbered by my government therefore I am _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Feminists warm to Clinton after NATO raids
Title: Feminists warm to Clinton after NATO raids News Personalize | Check Email Excite HomeAutosCareersCity GuidesClassifiedsAuctionsComputers InternetEducationEntertainmentGamesHealthHome Real EstateHoroscopesLifestyleMoney InvestingNewsPeople ChatShoppingSportsTravel Pick stateALAKAZARCACOCTDCDEFLGAHIIDILINIAKSKYLAMEMDMAMIMNMSMOMTNENVNHNJNMNYNCNDOHOKORPARISCSDTNTXUTVTVAWAWVWIWY Mortgage typeFixed rateAdjustable rateBalloonFHA or VA Click Here! Save on the latest books at Amazon.com Sections Headline News Oddly Enough Oddly Enough Story SearchExcite Web More Oddly Enough Stories Victims Of Bomb Attack Wed Catholic League Urges Boycott Of San Francisco Police Prevent Escape In Blackout Notable Quotes Feminists warm to Clinton after NATO raids Triumph Seeks China Lingerie Lift Blitz Gives Italy Macabre Lottery Inspiration Town Seeks Divine Help To Pay Its Bills Publisher Drops Monica Book Over Kosovo The Show Must Go On!! More Oddly Enough News... Today on Excite Hot Jobs w/ Top Companies Excite Mail Free Forever! Star Wars Episode I Buzz Women's Spring Fashions ·Get Headline News Daily on My Excite Excite Resources Excite Lifestyle ChannelExcite Entertainment ChannelExcite Games ChannelHumor SitesWatercooler Message BoardGallery of the AbsurdWeird Places on the NetLeonard's Cam WorldCentre for the Easily Amused Feminists warm to Clinton after NATO raids (Last updated 3:39 PM ET March 29) TIRANA (Reuters) - A group of Albanian women who campaigned against Bill Clinton over the Monica Lewinsky scandal have formed an organization supporting the U.S. president after NATO's air strikes against Yugoslavia. Albania's main Koha Jone daily said Friday the women's group in the southern port of Vlore had sympathized with Lewinsky, the former White House intern whose affair with Clinton prompted impeachment proceedings that ultimately failed. However, they now favored Clinton for ordering U.S. forces to take part in the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia over Belgrade's refusal to sign a peace deal for Kosovo, whose population is largely ethnic Albanian. "We are sure that with your authority you would back NATO's attack on Serbia to the end, putting out the flames of war in the Balkans," the women wrote in a letter to Clinton. The "Bill Clinton" association now wants him to do something for their town, ravaged by violence during anarchy in 1997, once the
[CTRL] Publisher Drops Monica Book Over Kosovo.htm
Title: Publisher Drops Monica Book Over Kosovo News Personalize | Check Email Excite HomeAutosCareersCity GuidesClassifiedsAuctionsComputers InternetEducationEntertainmentGamesHealthHome Real EstateHoroscopesLifestyleMoney InvestingNewsPeople ChatShoppingSportsTravel Save on the latest books at Amazon.com Sections Headline News Oddly Enough Oddly Enough Story SearchExcite Web More Oddly Enough Stories Victims Of Bomb Attack Wed Catholic League Urges Boycott Of San Francisco Police Prevent Escape In Blackout Notable Quotes Feminists warm to Clinton after NATO raids Triumph Seeks China Lingerie Lift Blitz Gives Italy Macabre Lottery Inspiration Town Seeks Divine Help To Pay Its Bills Publisher Drops Monica Book Over Kosovo The Show Must Go On!! More Oddly Enough News... Today on Excite Hot Jobs w/ Top Companies Excite Mail Free Forever! Star Wars Episode I Buzz Women's Spring Fashions ·Get Headline News Daily on My Excite Excite Resources Excite Lifestyle ChannelExcite Entertainment ChannelExcite Games ChannelHumor SitesWatercooler Message BoardGallery of the AbsurdWeird Places on the NetLeonard's Cam WorldCentre for the Easily Amused Publisher Drops Monica Book Over Kosovo (Last updated 5:02 PM ET March 26) full imageMonica Lewinsky Reacts during Book Presentation in Hamburg (Reuters) more photos MOSCOW (Reuters) - The Russian publisher of Monica Lewinsky's biography said Friday it had dropped the project because of anti-American fury unleashed by NATO air strikes on Yugoslavia. "The situation in the Balkans makes it impossible," said Anna Sklyaretskaya of publishers Vagrius. She quoted the company's spokeswoman, Tatyana Makarova, as saying: "The relationship of people, both to her and to the leadership of her country, has changed. We don't think people will properly accept her." Vagrius had said last month it would bring the former White House intern to Russia in the summer for the launch of its translation of her authorized biography, "Monica's Story". Ordinary Russians have shared their government's outrage at the air strikes on Yugoslavia, which President Boris Yeltsin labeled "naked aggression". Crowds of Muscovites have burned American flags in front of the U.S. embassy and splattered the building with ink and eggs. Previous story: Town Seeks Divine Help To Pay Its BillsNext story: The Show Must Go On!! © 1999 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication and
Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?
-Caveat Lector- One would hardly think , at least this one :-) , that due to Daddys use of these men to cover his leacherous trail of sexual prowess and murder that they could be expected to like them . Of course if one is coming from the belief that we should support our troops for the same reason it is understandable , I don't agree with it , but I understand it . Divine~ - We're from the government , we're here to help you -- --- John Szocik wrote: -Caveat Lector- I just want to respond to the remarks made by Chelsea and Hillary Clinton regarding the what FBI or Secret Service areto them. " TRAINED PIGS " How dare they??!! These men are there to protect their sorry lives with their own if need be, and this is how they look upon them? If I were one of those chosen to protect either one of them, I'd definately side-step the bullet intended for them. Then that would make Chelsea and mommy "two pigs" By the way Hillary, how was Vince baby in bed? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Kosovo - Why? #3
-Caveat Lector- --- 1lls0081 wrote: -Caveat Lector- Ramblings, from someone that is wondering what the is going on. http://www.workers.org/ww/1999/kosovo0401.html U.S. attacks little Yugoslavia A day of infamy All the excuses given by President Bill Clinton cannot conceal the naked truth: the world's biggest nuclear power, a country of some 272 million people, has launched a war against a small, mostly agricultural country of 10 million people on the other side of the globe. "Small, Mostly Agricultural Country"? Wonder if they were not intrested in having GM (Genetically Modified) food and Monsanto in their country and they are being used as a example? snip, snip Good point to ponder , I also find the statement regarding the US still being the biggest nuclear power to be highly questionable against even one other country such as Russia or China , in terms of both combined not a chance ! Divine~ - It's important to learn from others mistakes , you don't have time to make them all yourself . - _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?
-Caveat Lector- John Szocik wrote: -Caveat Lector- I just want to respond to the remarks made by Chelsea and Hillary Clinton regarding the what FBI or Secret Service areto them. " TRAINED PIGS " What is the source of this quote? Thanks. Rick DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Ship's myth keeps reappearing
-Caveat Lector- The Philadelphia Inquirer, March 26, 1999 -- -- Ship's myth keeps reappearing The legend says the Eldridge vanished briefly in 1943. By Lacy McCrary INQUIRER STAFF WRITER ATLANTIC CITY -- The truth is out here. It is in a hospitality room of a boardwalk hotel, with some old salts sitting around white-clothed tables laughing at reports that their ship was involved in a top-secret World War II experiment. Sailors who served on the USS Eldridge, the ship that legend says vanished briefly in 1943 at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, met here this week for their first reunion in 53 years and spent part of their time joking about the so-called Philadelphia Experiment. The Eldridge, they said yesterday, may well have been invisible to Philadelphia because it was never in Philadelphia. The ship's log and several veterans who were on the ship from its launching on July 25, 1943, at Port Newark, N.J., say it called on many East Coast ports, but never Philadelphia. Two movies, two books and several Web sites have kept the myth about the Eldridge alive. As the story goes, the destroyer escort was surrounded by a greenish fog, disappeared for a few minutes, then reappeared. But none of the veterans believes it. "I think it's somebody's pipe dream," said Ed Wise, 74, of Salem, Ind. Ted Davis, 72, of Grand Island, Neb., was more emphatic. "It never happened," he said. Bill Van Allen, 84, who was executive officer and then captain of the Eldridge in 1943 and 1944, said he never saw any sign of experiments aboard the ship. "I have not the slightest idea how these stories got started," said Van Allen of Charlotte, N.C. These former sailors said they sometimes had fun pretending the experiment actually occurred. "When people would ask me about it, I would play along with them and tell them I disappeared. After a while they realized I was pulling their legs," said Ray Perrino, 72, of Cranston, R.I. None of the 15 at the reunion could explain why writers picked their ship, out of the thousands that sailed in the war, as the site of invisibility experiments. Frankly, some are tired of being asked about it. "We can't wait to put it to rest. We can't because it keeps coming up," Davis said. "I'm still asked about it now, mostly by younger people." "I have a Pennsylvania auto license DE-173 [ the designation and number of the Eldridge ] , and every once in a while somebody will stop and ask me if it was really true," said Mike Perlstein, 72, of Warminster. "I tell them I know nothing about it. I've seen the movie, and it's a good movie, but there's no truth to it," Perlstein said. The Navy said it had received so many inquiries through the years about the Philadelphia Experiment -- the title of a 1984 movie, a 1993 sequel and two books -- that it prepared and sends out a fact sheet. The Navy said the myth dated to 1955 with the publication of The Case for UFO's by the late Morris K. Jessup. It said Jessup later received letters from a Carlos Miguel Allende, who gave a New Kensington, Pa., address, and claimed he witnessed the ship becoming invisible from another vessel. Allende also said the ship was "teleported" to and from Norfolk, Va., in a few minutes with some terrible aftereffects for crew members. Questions about the experiment probably arose from "quite routine" research at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard during the war, according to the Navy fact sheet. "It was believed the foundation for the apocryphal stories arose from degaussing [ demagnetizing ] experiments which have the effect of making a ship undetectable or 'invisible' to magnetic mines," the Navy said. But the Navy said it had never conducted invisibility experiments, either in 1943 or at any other time. The legend says the ship became invisible on July 22, 1943, but ship records and the veterans say it was not launched until July 25. The second experiment, in which the Eldridge was sent to Norfolk and back to Philadelphia, was supposed to have occurred on Oct. 28, 1943. The ship's log says it was at the Brooklyn Navy Yard on that date, but did spend two days in the Norfolk Navy Yard in November 1943. The gray-haired men, some wearing baseball caps with "USS Eldridge" printed on them, chuckled as they ribbed one another about the mental problems the crew supposedly suffered from the experiments. "The only part of the book I think is true is the part about the crew being a little crazy," said Ed Tempany, 75, of Carteret, N.J. He referred to The Philadelphia Experiment: Project Invisibility by William L. Moore in consultation with Charles Berlitz. "When I get home I'm going to apply for disability," Perrino said, with a smile. "Beam me up, Scotty," said Tempany. © 1998 Philadelphia Newspapers Inc. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em
[CTRL] Fwd: Kosovo: Iraq in Europe?
US Thinks Iraq Is Helping Yugoslavs By JOHN DIAMOND .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) -- Yugoslav defense specialists, expecting a war over Kosovo, met last month in Baghdad with Iraqi counterparts in what the Pentagon suspects was a collaboration between two U.S. enemies to prepare Yugoslavia to shoot down American war planes, government officials say. U.S. intelligence agencies kept track of the Yugoslavs going to the meeting but could not get firsthand information about what went on, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity. Nevertheless, Pentagon officials said the meeting's timing and personnel, a similarity in Iraqi and Yugoslav air defense tactics since NATO airstrikes began and separate intelligence about possible arms deals between the two countries all suggest Yugoslavia sought information on U.S. fighter jets and combat tactics. The Baghdad meeting was described to The Associated Press by senior Clinton administration officials, Pentagon officials familiar with intelligence matters and congressional officials briefed on the matter. They spoke on condition of anonymity. Collaboration between Iraq and Yugoslavia predates the Kosovo crisis. Baghdad purchased some air defense equipment from Yugoslavia late in the Cold War, and there have been occasional contacts between the two countries' military experts. But February's two-day visit of a four-member Yugoslav air defense team to the Iraqi military headquarters in Baghdad drew the immediate attention of U.S. intelligence. President Clinton and key congressional leaders were quickly notified, the officials said. Both Yugoslavia and Iraq are under international arms embargoes, and U.S. officials said they have intelligence indicating Yugoslavia was offering to trade military spare parts in exchange for Iraqi intelligence on U.S. air operations. Yugoslavia may also be seeking parts from Iraq. ``Each country has supplies or parts it would like to get from the other country,'' a senior Pentagon official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. An official ``at a fairly high level'' in the Yugoslav military, and accompanying officers ``stayed a couple of days and met with a whole variety of people'' in Baghdad, including air defense specialists, the Pentagon official said. At the time, Belgrade was resisting a diplomatic solution to the Kosovo crisis and bracing for threatened NATO airstrikes, and Iraq was challenging U.S. planes patrolling deny-flight zones over Iraq and coming under frequent retaliatory attacks. U.S. officials said they suspect Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's desire to help another U.S. adversary outweighed any concerns about Serb attacks in Kosovo against ethnic Albanians, who are mostly Muslim. Iraq has had little success defending against U.S. and British airstrikes during the skirmishes since the end of the Gulf War. But Pentagon officials say Baghdad is in a position to share detailed information about the tactics, flight patterns and capabilities of U.S. warplanes, including: How high do U.S. warplanes fly during attack missions and what predictable patterns do they follow? How long does it take a U.S. fighter to react with a radar-seeking missile after an air defense battery directs its radar at the plane? How can military equipment be hidden from view? How can radar systems be tuned to detect, even fleetingly, an F-117 stealth fighter? In the opening days of the NATO campaign over Yugoslavia, Serb forces largely held off firing from their scores of surface-to-air missile batteries, then gradually intensified their air defense fire, the same basic tactic seen recently in Iraq. Yugoslav fighter tactics, however, have been more aggressive. NATO shot down five highly capable Russian-made MiG-29s in recent days. But there have been signs the Serb warplanes are also trying to draw NATO combat aircraft into SAM traps, much as Iraqi fighter planes tried in recent weeks. Pentagon officials say Yugoslavia's air defense system is more capable and better manned than Iraq. ``The Serbs have been tutored by the Russians. Their air defense system has been upgraded more recently than the Iraqis. They have huge numbers of mobile missile launchers, and better terrain and weather for hiding. And we think their people are better trained,'' one Pentagon official said. The downing of an F-117A stealth fighter Saturday has defense officials concerned that U.S. adversaries' knowledge of American air combat methods is improving, the officials said. But the concern hasn't stopped the strikes on Yugoslavia. More F-117As took off Monday from Aviano Air Base, Italy
Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?
-Caveat Lector- i believe its from the book"Unlimited Access" the former agent, who wrote it, was following chelsea around and she started bad-mouthing him- called him a trained pig--he said, look its my job to do this, and i dont take any mouth from little kids--some thing like that--then chelsea said--well, thats what my mom and dad call all you guys liz DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Hawaiian Wealth
"The revenue from 337,000 acres of Hawaii land -- and investments that include 10 percent of the Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs Co. -- is used 'solely' to finance one elite campus for Hawaiian students. But it also pays more than $840,000 a year in commissions to EACH of six politically powerful trustees ..." Rich Hawaii Trust Mired in Scandal By BRUCE DUNFORD .c The Associated Press HONOLULU (AP) -- What would Princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop think? She left an estate now estimated at $10 billion, one of the world's richest trusts. Its sole purpose: to educate children of native Hawaiian ancestry. But for the past two years, the trustees of the Bishop estate have been embroiled in a public tangle of boardroom intrigue, questionable investments, IRS audits and allegations of criminal acts. It all tumbled into a tawdry mix of sex and suicide in early March when an estate attorney killed herself after being caught in a tryst with a trustee in a hotel men's room. The trustee then attempted suicide. On Monday, Attorney General Margery Bronster intends to ask a judge to remove at least four of the five once untouchable trustees from their posts, alleging they withheld $350 million from the schools. The board of trustees is dysfunctional ``and it's not servicing the beneficiaries and it cannot in this atmosphere,'' said Gov. Ben Cayetano. ``I cannot see how the court would ignore the present situation,'' Cayetano said. ``It's an unworkable situation.'' Bishop Estate, Hawaii's largest private landowner, was created in 1884 by the will of the princess, a descendant of King Kamehameha, the man who unified the islands in the late 18th century. The revenue from 337,000 acres of Hawaii land -- and worldwide investments that include 10 percent of the Wall Street firm Goldman Sachs Co. -- is used solely to finance Kamehameha Schools, a 600-acre campus for 3,100 Hawaiian students that sits on a wooded hillside overlooking downtown Honolulu. It also pays more than $840,000 a year in commissions to each of the estate's politically powerful Hawaiian trustees -- Gerard Jervis, 50; Henry Peters, 58; Richard ``Dickie'' Wong, 65; Oswald Stender, 67; and Lokelani Lindsey, 60. The estate became the center of public melodrama in 1997 when the school community learned of a private confrontation between Lindsey, the lead trustee for education, and student body president Kamani Kuala`au, who was bound for Princeton. Kuala'au said Lindsey lectured him for 2 1/2 hours because he supported school president Michael Chun, who was feuding with Lindsey. ``How would you feel if I wrote a letter to Princeton and told them that you're a rabble-rouser?'' he said Lindsey told him. About 1,000 demonstrators associated with Kamehameha took to the streets, demanding that Lindsey quit meddling. Five prominent community leaders then wrote an August 1997 essay in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. They alleged mismanagement of trust assets, conflicts of interests by individual trustees and poor selection of trustees, who are named by members of the Hawaii Supreme Court. Bronster, ordered to investigate by the governor, accused the trustees of using trust assets to create an economic empire, engaging in kickback schemes, awarding improper contracts, making sweetheart deals for relatives and friends and using improper business practices, ``all of which have hurt the trust.'' That investigation led to Peters' indictment in November for allegedly receiving a $192,500 kickback in an estate land deal involving Wong's brother- in-law. Wong is being investigated in the same scheme. Bronster's investigation also revealed the IRS had been reviewing trust operations, including trustee compensation and the schools' racial exclusivity policy, for at least three years. After preliminary findings were delivered in January, a judge declared the trustees in conflict of interest and named a separate panel to negotiate with the IRS. An internal dispute became public when Stender and Jervis sued to oust Lindsey for allegedly mismanaging Kamehameha Schools and intimidating teachers and students. A judge's verdict on the lawsuit is pending. And last year, a court-appointed special master said the estate lost $242 million during three fiscal years ending in 1996 and could have done better by opening a standard savings account. Then, on March 3, Jervis and estate lawyer Rene Ojiri Kitaoka, 39, were caught having sex in a men's restroom at the Hawaii Prince Hotel. Kitaoka was chief legal counsel for estate subsidiary Kamehameha Investment Corp. Jervis, as a trustee, is chairman of the corporation. The next day, Kitaoka died of carbon monoxide poisoning in the garage of her home. A week later, Jervis swallowed an overdose of sleeping pills. He was released from a hospital March 22 and promptly apologized for ``the mistakes I have made.'' ``I do not know what the future may bring,'' Jervis said. ``But I have always believed that I should be held
[CTRL] Fwd: (2) Kosovo Fallout: Turkey
Formula for further escalation: Greece and Turkey, US allies but traditional enemies, still at odds over possession of Mediterranean territories like Cyprus -- Greece, having "ties with fellow Orthodox Christian Serbs dating back to the Byzantine wars against the Muslim Ottomans [of Turkey]" and "Moslem Turkey, which has close historical ties to ethnic Albanians" ... ANKARA, March 29 (Reuters) - These are the leading stories in the Turkish press on Monday. SABAH : The secrets of U.S. ``stealth'' technology crashed with the F-117A fighter jet that came down near Belgrade. HURRIYET : Greece air defences locked onto a Turkish F-16 flying over the Aegean Sea. Turkey has sent a stern protest note to its formal NATO ally calling the action ``hostile.'' RADIKAL : The Butcher returns. The Serbian militia leader known as ``Arkan'' has joined Serbian forces carrying out massacres in Kosovo. ZAMAN : Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit expresses worry about a possible spreading of conflict between Yugoslavia and NATO. _ Kosovo weighs on Turk PM Ecevit By Pelin Turgut ISTANBUL, March 28 (Reuters) - Turkish Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit on Sunday faced the double spectre of fears of a spreading Balkan conflict abroad and mounting Kurdish separatist violence at home. Elections are to be held in just three weeks. Turkish officials have expressed growing fear that NATO air raids on Yugoslavia could spread into ground fighting, or across Balkan borders. Although Ecevit said on Sunday there was no immediate need to send in NATO ground troops, he expressed concern over a wider Balkan conflagration. ``We have soldiers in Bosnia and Macedonia, so the possibility of this fire spreading worries me greatly,'' Ecevit told a television programme. Turkey is participating in the NATO operation against Yugoslavia with 11 fighter aircraft, and officials have said Ankara is ready to add ground troops if needed. Overwhelmingly Moslem Turkey, which has close historical ties to ethnic Albanians, is also fearful that a protracted conflict in the volatile region could lead to a mass influx of refugees. Nearly 2,000 Kosovan Albanians arrived in Turkey through Bulgaria in the past week. At home, suspected Kurd rebel suicide bomber killed herself and injured 10 others in a bustling Istanbul square on Saturday. Turkey, particularly its commercial capital Istanbul, has been swept by a wave of unrest since the arrest of Kurd guerrilla leader Abdullah Ocalan last month. Police believe Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels seeking revenge for Ocalan's capture are behind the attacks. ``A sad holiday,'' ran the banner headline on rightist daily Turkiye while the mainstream Hurriyet said: ``The PKK wanted to bloody the holiday,.'' The annual Moslem Eid al-Adha public holiday runs throughout this week. But the governor of Istanbul told reporters that the attacks could have been much worse. ``(PKK) orders to destroy Istanbul after Apo's arrest have failed due to the people's sensitivity and the success of our security forces,'' Erol Cakir said, according to Anatolian news agency. Turkey is counting down to local and general elections on April 18. The polls pit a powerful Islamist party against a handful of secular rivals, including Ecevit.
[CTRL] Fwd: CHOMSKY: U.S. violates principles of int'l order
The Current Bombings By Noam Chomsky http://www.zmag.org/current_bombings.htm There have been many inquiries concerning NATO (meaning primarily U.S.) bombing in Kosovo. A great deal has been written about the topic, including Znet commentaries. I'd like to make a few general observations, keeping to facts that are not seriously contested. There are two fundamental issues: (1) What are the accepted and applicable "rules of world order"? (2) How do these or other considerations apply in the case of Kosovo? (1) What are the accepted and applicable "rules of world order"? There is a regime of international law and international order, binding on all states, based on the UN Charter and subsequent resolutions and World Court decisions. In brief, the threat or use of force is banned unless explicitly authorized by the Security Council after it has determined that peaceful means have failed, or in self-defense against "armed attack" (a narrow concept) until the Security Council acts. There is, of course, more to say. Thus there is at least a tension, if not an outright contradiction, between the rules of world order laid down in the UN Charter and the rights articulated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UD), a second pillar of the world order established under U.S. initiative after World War II. The Charter bans force violating state sovereignty; the UD guarantees the rights of individuals against oppressive states. The issue of "humanitarian intervention" arises from this tension. It is the right of "humanitarian intervention" that is claimed by the US/NATO in Kosovo, and that is generally supported by editorial opinion and news reports (in the latter case, reflexively, even by the very choice of terminology). The question is addressed in a news report in the NY Times (March 27), headlined "Legal Scholars Support Case for Using Force" in Kosovo (March 27). One example is offered: Allen Gerson, former counsel to the U.S. mission to the UN. Two other legal scholars are cited. One, Ted Galen Carpenter, "scoffed at the Administration argument" and dismissed the alleged right of intervention. The third is Jack Goldsmith, a specialist on international law at Chicago Law school. He says that critics of the NATO bombing "have a pretty good legal argument," but "many people think [an exception for humanitarian intervention] does exist as a matter of custom and practice." That summarizes the evidence offered to justify the favored conclusion stated in the headline. Goldsmith's observation is reasonable, at least if we agree that facts are relevant to the determination of "custom and practice." We may also bear in mind a truism: the right of humanitarian intervention, if it exists, is premised on the "good faith" of those intervening, and that assumption is based not on their rhetoric but on their record, in particular their record of adherence to the principles of international law, World Court decisions, and so on. That is indeed a truism, at least with regard to others. Consider, for example, Iranian offers to intervene in Bosnia to prevent massacres at a time when the West would not do so. These were dismissed with ridicule (in fact, ignored); if there was a reason beyond subordination to power, it was because Iranian "good faith" could not be assumed. A rational person then asks obvious questions: is the Iranian record of intervention and terror worse than that of the U.S.? And other questions, for example: How should we assess the "good faith" of the only country to have vetoed a Security Council resolution calling on all states to obey international law? What about its historical record? Unless such questions are prominent on the agenda of discourse, an honest person will dismiss it as mere allegiance to doctrine. A useful exercise is to determine how much of the literature -- media or other -- survives such elementary conditions as these. (2) How do these or other considerations apply in the case of Kosovo? There has been a humanitarian catastrophe in Kosovo in the past year, over- whelmingly attributable to Yugoslav military forces. The main victims have been ethnic Albanian Kosovars, some 90% of the population of this Yugoslav territory. The standard estimate is 2000 deaths and hundreds of thousands of refugees. In such cases, outsiders have three choices: (I) try to escalate the catastrophe (II) do nothing (III) try to mitigate the catastrophe The choices are illustrated by other contemporary cases. Let's keep to a few of approximately the same scale, and ask where Kosovo fits into the pattern. (A) Colombia. In Colombia, according to State Department estimates, the annual level of political killing by the government and its paramilitary associates is about at the level of Kosovo, and refugee flight primarily from their atrocities is well over a million. Colombia has been the leading Western hemisphere recipient of U.S. arms and training as
Re: [CTRL] excellent dry quote
-Caveat Lector- Though this is quite cute , I do believe the original quote was " a million monkeys at a million keyboards for a million years could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare " , none the less I guess it's a mute point since Shakespeare has already been produced .. and is on the web . Divine~ Life may have no meaning. Or even worse, it may have a meaning of which I disapprove. -- Ashleigh Brilliant --- "J. Hoffa" wrote: -Caveat Lector- "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." --Robert Wilensky DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Who's The Trained Pigs?
-Caveat Lector- Hi, If they said that, they should not be given protection. Could you please state your source? This is a disgrace. I hope it isn't true. Can anyone confirm? I may have to write to the Wite House again. I wonder how many lists I am on so far and if the FBI keeps records of those who disapprove. Paranoid, I know but I was audited last year. Amelia DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Balkan Miscellanea
-Caveat Lector-
Editorial notes: As usual, a topic should be seen from as many sides as
possible (research -- and its particular conceit -- and personal
perspectives {opinions}) in order to retain a sense of objectivity. This
post actually started out to find documentation about Marshall Tito and his
band of guerillas in WW2 and after; the intent was to demonstrate the
Yugoslavian ability to wage uncompromising unconventional warfare as part
of their history (why the USSR let Tito off the leash). There are some
references to this in the following articles; *THIS* is what I would
consider to be the *primary* reason why ground forces would not be part of
the equation.
From http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usassi/ssipubs/pubs95/enigma/enigmatc.htm
DECIPHERING THE BALKAN ENIGMA:
USING HISTORY TO INFORM POLICY
Revised Edition
William T. Johnsen
November 7, 1995
The views expressed in this report are those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the Department of
the Army, the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government.
PART IV
PRE-WORLD WAR I
By the turn of the 20th century, nationalist passions had reached a fever
pitch, and conflicts raged across the region with little respite as nations
great and small fought over the carcasses of the declining Habsburg and
Ottoman empires. In 1908, Bulgaria gained its independence, fanning
nationalist flames throughout the region. More importantly, also in 1908,
Austria annexed Bosnia- Hercegovina, frustrating Serbian nationalist
aspirations for that territory and dealing the Russians a humiliating
diplomatic defeat, both of which would have severe repercussions.61
Within short order, Southeastern Europe suffered the First Balkan War
(1912) between Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece, on the one hand, and the
Ottomans on the other. Rapidly defeating the Turks, the victorious allies
soon fell to squabbling over the division of Macedonia and Albania. Serbian
and Greek designs on Albania particularly upset Austria and Italy which did
not want to see any strong power, specifically Serbia, established on the
Adriatic coast. As a result, the Great Powers again imposed a peace
settlement on the Balkans that left nationalist expectations unfulfilled.62
Feeling isolated and not trusting its erstwhile allies, Bulgaria attacked
Greece and Serbia, starting the Second Balkan War (June 1913). In a
remarkable turnaround, the Ottomans joined the Greeks, Serbs, and Romanians
in quickly defeating Bulgaria. By means of the Treaty of Bucharest,
however, the Great Powers again imposed a territorial solution upon the
region. Serbia and Greece received those parts of Macedonia they had
seized, but not the full amounts they desired. Bulgaria retained only a
part of Macedonia, and kept a small coastline in Thrace along the Aegean
Sea, but lost Thessaloniki to Greece. While Greece gained territory at
Bulgarian expense, the concomitant establishment of an independent Albania
meant Greece received only a portion of Epirus, all of which it coveted.
The Ottomans recovered Adrianople and territory up to the Maritsa River,
but still suffered the loss of considerable territory relative to 1911.
Only the Romanians, who obtained southern Dobrudja, and the Albanians, who
achieved their independence, expressed satisfaction with the final
settlement. The other states could be expected to seek redress at the
earliest opportunity.63
WORLD WAR I
Gavrilo Princip (an ethnic Bosnian Serb terrorist intent on promoting union
of Bosnia-Hercegovina with Serbia) provided that opportunity in June 1914,
when he assassinated Archduke Francis Ferdinand of Austria in Sarajevo. The
events that turned the third Balkan War into World War I, as well as the
events of the war, are well known and will not be repeated here. However,
several key consequences of the war merit further discussion.
First, the various alignments of the powers during the course of the war,
both within and outside the region, contributed to unresolved tensions that
continued to afflict the region after the post-war settlements. For
example, Bulgarian support of the Central Powers and murderous occupation
of Macedonia and Montenegro only increased Serbian hatred of their eastern
neighbor.64 Similarly, Greek entry into the war against Bulgaria and Turkey
only further sharpened centuries-old animosities.
A second critical consequence of the war was the considerable devastation
that significantly set back the agricultural and industrial sectors of the
economy.65 More importantly, nations in the region paid a high cost in
human suffering that fed tensions in the post-war era. The plight of
Yugoslavia is illustrative. According to documents provided at the
Versailles Peace Conference, Yugoslavia suffered 1,900,000 deaths (from all
causes) during World War I. Of the 705,343 men Serbia mobilized during the
war, 369,815 were killed or died of
Re: [CTRL] $20bn PLANE DOWNED BY HAND GUNS (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- God, I love this story!! Don't get me wrong: I'm glad the pilot was rescued and that the only thing lost was just a little bit of that famous American arrogance. And to think by a handgun, no less. KISS THIS KLINTON :-) Edward "A US F117 aircraft has been shot down over Yugoslavia. The aircraft was hit by small arms fire from local militia causing a fire on board and rendering it's much vaunted 'stealth' technology useless. The subsequent high IR-signature was then locked onto by a missile battery with fired off a single SA6 anti-aircraft missile. The missile struck the target and the aircraft crashed in flames some 20 miles from Belgrade. The pilot managed to bail out and was rescued within hours by NATO forces." Anyone who doubts the effectiveness of firearms in the hands of the citizenry to wage war on a well armed military should think again. Strike one for RKBA. Joe. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om "From the rage of today's downtrodden comes the revenge of tomorrow's revolutionary force." Edward Britton http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5285/connector1.html Talk to the planet: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Map A Nuclear Blast
-Caveat Lector-
LOOKING TO RELOCATE?
When choosing a new place to live, don't just check out the school
system, neighborhoods, and property values. Be sure to also 1) determine
if
any potential military targets--government contractors, army bases--are
nearby and then 2) run to the Nuclear Blast Mapper at
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/amex/bomb/sfeature/blastmap.html
where you can find out how a nuclear attack on these targets will
affect
your "quality of life." Just choose your weapon (1- or 25-megaton
device)
and name the target; then watch the site generate maps and text
detailing
the damage and fallout you might expect. After all, does it matter how
good
the school system is if you have too many snow days during nuclear
winter?
--This tip contributed by Mark Scapicchio
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