Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #1
-Caveat Lector- # FINALLY, AN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION DEDICATED TO CRITICAL THINKING. The Center for Inquiry Institute, where students study pragmatism, critical inquiry, psychology of belief, other courses aimed at making them critical thinkers. All institutions of higher learning should offer courses like this. http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=16305 : Would universal critical thinking mark the doom of religion, creationism, advertising? What do you believe? Are you a sucker, an easy mark, a target? Hah! Don't you believe it! I've been to The Center for Inquiry. It is an organized arm of CSIOP...full of zealots. It is like the Kingdom Hall of atheists. I went to their Halloween thing... All they did was pass out literature on superstitions, force people to walk under ladders and break mirrors. Kind of felt like some kind of encounter therapy group...minus the pillows, ya know? I expect next they will be going door to door on Saturday mornings selling subscriptions to their magazine, The Skeptical Inquirer, preaching the coming of the Darwinian kingdom... You might be interested to know that the head of this little group at SUNY Buffalo is the same guy who wrote the Humanist Manifesto. I guess he's a Trotsky-wanna-be. To his chagrin, he's a philosophy professor there. Need I say more? These guys will go to any length to get somebody to take their courses and retain tenure... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?
-Caveat Lector- According to a friend of mine who studied NLP, with an eye to setting up a practice, it was devised by the CIA as a means of "interrogation". Neurolinguistic Programming is a variant on mind control techniques in that it installs "alters" to carry out certain tasks and "anchors" or trigger words to evoke certain programmed behavior. It was first used in the private sector to enable salesmen to determine their customers' archilles heels. NLP is a nasty, mind-messing bit of business that began and remains in the very worst hands. Gregory Bateson did the seminal work on the NLP process. Jean -- At 09:36 PM 9/4/99 -0500, Gus Delao wrote: -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Wayne Skews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:38 AM To: Ncnculture-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: Aphorism 210 and mental symptoms " in all cases of disease ...the state of the patient's disposition is to be particularly noted ." . In 211 he states, "... the state of the DISPOSITION of the patient often chiefly determines", sounds like NLP ..and if you can change your dispostion (state) then it must affect or change a whole bunch of other things. Wayne By the way, does anybody knows what really NLP is? Is it just another kind of mental control? Or is it more spiritual and truly healing? Thanks, Gustavo. _ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su dirección de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Should we trust the government?
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Sep 99, at 13:59, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/04/1999 12:46:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. Well, it might put a kink in rumored plans of Emperor William to remain in the White House after 2000. And that will take care of the people slaughtered the next time our federal agencies decide to "control a situation." Prudy Red herring! Changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim. Kathleen "When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right." -- Victor Marie Hugo DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Cathy Laughlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ric carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] @ OURANUS IS URANUS IS HEAVEN! URANUS, THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND! http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/hidden.html#KINGDOM Uhhh, eh hem... Excuse me, but Heaven may be YOUR anus, but it sure isn't mine! Speak for yourself, okay? I knew *somebody* would construe this. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] The Bomb that gave Clinton victory
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Sep 99, , Bill wrote: These are not idle questions. A family that lost two children in the day-care center has accused the Justice Department of a cover-up. After conducting their own private investigation for the past 18 months Glenn and Cathy Wilburn have amassed evidence suggesting that the government had prior knowledge of the bombing -- and negligently failed to stop it... The Wilburns, and their daughter Eyde Smith, have now taken their case to the Oklahoma courts. In a civil lawsuit they have named two men -- Michael Brescia and a former German army officer, Andreas Strassmeir -- as alleged accomplices of McVeigh. They have accused the Justice Department of failing to pursue all the conspirators because one or more of them were federal informants who had penetrated the bombing ring. I think in the time that has since elapsed, the Wilburns either dropped or were unsuccessful with their suit. I seem to remember them making "excuses" which suggested that they were overwhelmed or pressured and, finding they could make no headway, decided they had to "get on with their lives." I believe that the two men mentioned above were connected to the same "white supremacist" group that Buford Fowler--the LA Jewish Center shooter--was traced to. My memory could be faulty but my attention was flagged and it seemed to me that there was a link here that someone could follow. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- @ OURANUS IS URANUS IS HEAVEN! URANUS, THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND! Uranus is the ruling planet of the age of Aquarius that we are now entering. As we look around we see that Uranus is true to its reputation, to shake traditional aspects of life cause things to turn upside down. It's right on schedule isn't it? In the Bible Jesus says, " The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." The New Testament was written in Greek and the Greek word for heaven is Ouranos. Uranus. What was actually being said was, " The Kingdom Of Uranus is at hand," and we are witnesses to its changing power. Keep watching. http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/hidden.html#KINGDOM Uhhh, eh hem... Excuse me, but Heaven may be YOUR anus, but it sure isn't mine! Speak for yourself, okay? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Cyrptonym: NSA's crypto KEY in Microsoft's warez
-Caveat Lector- Isn't it interesting how the DOJ (Federal "Justice" Dept... "just-us" in gov't...) seems to have quickly and completely backed off of any interest in the MONOPOLY held by Microsoft ? Could it have anything to do with preferential pricing (or free) software provided to the FEDS? I have seen a MS-Office installation CD marked "Government use only" which required NO "CD-KEY" .. therefore, no serialization... unlike the versions us PROLES purchase, which cannot be installed without a long string of numbers from the little orange sticker on the back of the CD envelope... Or could it have something to do with NSA "Trojan Horse" encryption key in every MS operating system? Both? What other little surprises will come to light, one wonders? Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart * from: http://www.cryptonym.com/ "A demonstration program that replaces the NSA key can be found on Cryptonym's website." *[Comment from Dave: Unfortunately, I was unable to locate this demo program]* In the[Microsoft] CryptoAPI system, it was well known that Windows used special numbers called "cryptographic public keys" to verify the integrity of a CryptoAPI component before using that component's services. In other words, programmers already knew that windows performed the calculation "component_validity = crypto_verify(23479237498234...,crypto_component)", but no-one knew exactly what the cryptographic key "23479237498234..." meant semantically. Then came WindowsNT4's Service Pack 5. In this service release of software from Microsoft, the company crucially forgot to remove the symbolic information identifying the security components. It turns out that there are really two keys used by Windows; the first belongs to Microsoft, and it allows them to securely load CryptoAPI services; the second belongs to the NSA. That means that the NSA can also securely load CryptoAPI services... on your machine, and without your authorization. The result is that it is tremendously easier for the NSA to load unauthorized security services on all copies of Microsoft Windows, and once these security services are loaded, they can effectively compromise your entire operating system. For non-American IT managers relying on WinNT to operate highly secure data centers, this find is worrying. The US government is currently making it as difficult as possible for "strong" crypto to be used outside of the US; that they have also installed a cryptographic back-door in the world's most abundant operating system should send a strong message to foreign IT managers. There is good news among the bad, however. It turns out that there is a flaw in the way the "crypto_verify" function is implemented. Because of the way the crypto verification occurs, users can easily eliminate or replace the NSA key from the operating system without modifying any of Microsoft's original components. Since the NSA key is easily replaced, it means that non-US companies are free to install "strong" crypto services into Windows, without Microsoft's or the NSA's approval. Thus the NSA has effectively removed export control of "strong" crypto from Windows. A demonstration program that replaces the NSA key can be found on Cryptonym's website. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] U.S APEC Security Data Sent To Chicken Factory
-Caveat Lector- Re: APEC secure documents sent to fax machine in South Auckland Chicken-processing factory... Would have been about 9am NY time on Thursday, I think it was, when CNN gave it quite a bit of coverage. Might be on their site. Front page of NZ Herald, main newspaper in Auckland, earlier in week. You could try the site of The Press, a daily which is published in Christchurch, or maybe National Business Review, or Radio New Zealand. The best part was the chap at the factory saying, "I rang the US Embassy several times and asked them to stop sending them, but couldn't get any action out of them". The humour of it all was a welcome relief for a city feeling depressed and gloomy at all the thousands of APEC circus people in town (roads blocked, no hotel rooms available, difficulties in using airport, some people temporarily laid off work because of transport problems, some small businesses almost unable to function, no doubt a heap of extra miniaturised transponder implants for the more restless natives so they can be tracked easily...) Lyn -Caveat Lector- Matt, is there an article on this? How did you find out about this? Hilary -- From: Matt.S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] U.S APEC Security Data Sent To Chicken Factory Date: Friday, September 03, 1999 12:27 AM -Caveat Lector- Yes the boys at the Whitehouse have done it again, a small chicken processing plant in Auckland had its fax machine spitting out confidential security details of communication equipment, routes to be travelled, driver names probably a lot more. It was all supposed to go to the APEC Security Control Office, but it looks like a case of, sorry wrong number. The chicken plant workers said they would have rather had an order for chicken than Clintons security arrangements, what a joke, anyone for a chicken nibble, just contact the Whitehouse, they have the fax number, Matt.S DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: {Y2K} Canadian Army Y2K Preparations
-Caveat Lector-
forwarded...
Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart
-Original Message-
From: Bob Olsen
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 4:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: {Y2K} Canadian Army Y2K Preparations
(Canadian) "Government and military officials have
expressed confidence that disruptions caused by the
Year 2000 computer problem will be minor, similar to
those caused by a major winter storm."
(or maybe not?)
http://www.nationalpost.com/news.asp?f=990904/71167
National PostSaturday, September 04, 1999
[ ]+ Reporter Troops to be trained to use force for Y2K
problems
[ ]+ Politics Military to help police: Possible terrorist
[ ]+ West to East scenarios part of preparation
David Pugliese
[ ]World Ottawa Citizen
OTTAWA - The Canadian military will begin
[ ]+ Postcard training this fall to use force in dealing with
[ ]+ Observer millennium bug problems or year 2000 terrorist attacks.
The Canadian Forces will "train selected units in
[Careerclick]the use of force in domestic operations [and]
practice armed and unarmed assistance" to
[Special Features]law-enforcement agencies, according to documents
obtained under the Access to Information Act.
Units at Canadian Forces bases across the country
will also go through updated training to "conduct
security operations in a Year 2000 environment."
Although all Canadian Forces personnel are
trained in the use of force in combat missions,
[Image] operating with police agencies in Canada requires
Search Helpspecialized training in the use of force in a
civilian setting.
Date[GO] One of the scenarios that military commanders put
Rank down on paper was how to deal with a
millennium-inspired attack in which terrorists
target electric power systems and take hostages
to use the "psychologically powerful turn of the
millennium to focus attention on their cause,"
according to the documents. In the scenario, two
unnamed provinces request the use of the
military's anti-terrorist unit to deal with the
threat.
Government and military officials have expressed
confidence that disruptions caused by the Year
2000 computer problem will be minor, similar to
those caused by a major winter storm. They have
suggested troops would be unarmed and provide
emergency aid such as was done in the 1998 ice
storm. Other documents stated that training
scenarios involving aid to civil powers should
not be included in the military's year 2000
preparations.
Defence officials did not return phone calls
about the training regime. A press release sent
in response to questions listed one year 2000
training scenario as to "assist law-enforcement
agencies with isolated incidents involving
individual (or) groups trying to take advantage
of the year 2000 transition for their own
purposes or beliefs."
In the U.S., preparations are already under way
to deal with millennium unrest. In March, Marine
Corps units started practicing their training in
crowd control and riot techniques in case of
panic.
Other military units in Canada are also getting
ready for the year 2000. The Air Force will
provide an air dispatch service to carry messages
across the country in the "rare event of a
catastrophic collapse of the civil telecom
infrastructure," according to the plans.
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Re: [CTRL] OPEN POLLINATED Seed sources,
-Caveat Lector- Haven't a list handy but suggest Koanga Gardens, RD2, Maungaturoto, North Island, New Zealand, as probably the leading collection. Non-hybrid, organic, open pollinated, heirloom varieties in plenty. -Caveat Lector- Lyn, could you please post info about NZ seed companies? I have a friend in NZ who would be interested. Thanks, Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substanceónot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Truth From Feds Is Hard to Find [Waco]
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Sep 99, , Bard wrote: ruth From Feds Is Hard to Find -- -- By Jennifer G. Hickey -- -- After years of denials, the FBI has said it used flammable tear gas during the siege of the Branch Davidian compound. What does that say about government by the people, for the people? The Cover-Up Game is actually a stall tactic. If you can delay an investigation for 10-50 years, then drag it through panels, studies, commissions, and courts for another quartr of a century, all the leading players will be either retired, doddering, or dead--and thus have attained their objective. The deed is done and the perpetrators get off scott free. Furthermore, all those who were affected or who cared passionately about the matter will also be dead, retired, or past caring and the general public of that future time will only take note of an interesting historical curiosity. That's modern justice for ya. sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Christian Authority to Keep and Bear Arms
-Caveat Lector- Excerpt from the 'Christian Guide to Small Arms' from the Gospel Plow. http://www.frii.com./~gosplow/ -- What authority has the Christian freeman to keep and bear arms ? The Lord Jesus Christ gave very clear instruction to His disciples in the upper room after the Last Supper. They were to be sent on a mission, and were to take with them certain things - moneybag, knapsack, and sword. The Command of Christ And He said to them, "When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?" So they said, "Nothing." Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: 'And He was numbered with the transgressors.' For the things concerning Me have an end." So they said, "Lord, look, here are two swords." And He said to them, "It is enough." -Luke 22:35-38 There are some among those who profess Christianity that advocate the disarmament of all but the police and military. They will not be swayed by the fact that the Constitution of the United States of America regards the right to keep and bear arms as a pre-existent prerogative of a free people. So be it. But then, how do they interpret our Lord's charge to buy a sword? Most commentators take Christ at His word concerning the inoffensive provisions: That the situation in which Christ's apostles would find themselves after his departure would indeed be different from what it was before follows also from the words found in the highpriestly prayer (John 17: 11-13). From now on these men will have to take the initiative. They will need to cultivate courage to a degree not expected of them before. Making provision for missionary travels, such as taking along a purse and a traveling bag, will now be necessary. THE NEW TESTAMENT COMMENTARY; by William Hendriksen When it comes to the sword, however, many commentators refuse to accept the words of Christ in the same sense. Jesus's words on acquiring a sword (v. 36) should not be taken literally; they are a sign of the conflict and opposition which the disciples will face. Evangelical Commentary on the Bible, Elwell; 1989 Baker These instructions are most certainly not to be taken literally, as the disciples at that time seemed to take them. The Layman's Bible Commentary Some popular objections are : The reference is to a knife (butcher, carving). The sword is real, but the command is given only that a prophecy might be fulfilled. The sword is not literal, but figurative. Jesus was non-violent; Christian = pacifist. A Butcher Knife ? Some insist that the two swords produced by the disciples in the upper room were not swords at all, but rather knives. This argument declares that these were two specific knives to be used in the preparation of the Passover lamb - one to slit the lamb's throat, and the other to carve the roasted lamb. Before this time the needs of the disciples had been supplied by others. Their hosts would do the cutting and carving of the meat. Now they will have to do this themselves. This argument ignors the fact that the Passover lamb was but a foreshadow of Christ's Sacrifice, and that the shadow passes away when the reality has come. And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many... For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect... Previously saying, "Sacrifice and offering, burnt offerings, and offerings for sin You did not desire, nor had pleasure in them" (which are offered according to the law), then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God." He takes away the first that He may establish the second. By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. -Hebrews 9:27-10:10 Christ was not commanding His disciples to sell their garment to buy a butcher knife. The Greek word used here is commonly used to describe the short sword, the standard close combat weapon of the era. From STRONG'S EXHAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE OF THE BIBLE - Greek 3162. machaira makh'-ahee-rah; prob. fem. of a presumed der. of Grk 3163; a knife, i.e. dirk; fig. war, judicial punishment:-sword. Greek 3163. mache makh'-ay; from Grk 3164; a battle, i.e. (fig.) controversy:-fighting, strive, striving. If the knapsack and moneybag are to be taken literally, should not the sword be treated the same? Certainly, the disciples would need courage to face the events of the next 24 hours, but the admonition to sell one's cloak in order to buy a sword had to do with trials to be faced beyond the immediate future. Would the disciples need a moneybag and knapsack at Gethsemane? At the praetorium? Notice
Re: [CTRL] 3rd World Disease In New York. Malathion To Be Sprayed.
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Sep 99, , William wrote: Helicopters filled with Malathion, described as a "quite safe" insecticide, began spraying sections of College Point, Whitestone and Auburndale for two hours from 6:45 p.m. Malathion is pretty deadly, totally toxic stuff. I think they gave major public warnings and even did some evacuations when they used it in California. Do they still use it in California? . sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Should we trust the government?
-Caveat Lector- YOU GO, GIRL (A little mutual admiration never hurts :)) ) On 4 Sep 99, , Prudence wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/02/1999 7:02:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the face of this unprecedented attack on American citizens by agents of their own government, a deadly assault that sparked the militia movement as well as the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, an unprecedented silence befell the press. No one stepped forward to be the Davidians friend, writes Richard Shweder, author of Thinking Through Cultures, in the New York Times. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms spent months planning and rehearsing the largest law enforcement operation of its 200-year history. This turned out to be a major military operation, worthy of a police state, carried out against the domestic residence of an unpopular and readily stigmatized religious community. The ACLU does not like guns, and its very busy, so it didnt get involved. The religious leaders of our country do not like cults, and the womens movement does not like patriarchal living arrangements, so they didnt much care. And no one wanted to seem sympathetic to child abuse or unsympathetic to the FBI. I don't know anyone who "trusts" the Government. Trust is not important here. And will you people quit baying about IMPEACHMENT. Just what good does or would it do? I'm so tired of all this basically partisan nonsense. Janet Reno is not fully to blame for WACO or Ruby Ridge and neither is Clinton. Our nation's entire police and intelligence systems have evolved into a league of crazed gestapo-types, and you think impeachment would have an affect on that? We have problems in this town, which is barely a hundred thousand. Police officers are required who are not "too intelligent." God forbid that we place authority and arms in the hands of anyone who has a high IQ. The police in New York City and most other major cities are treating the citizens who pay their wages as a cross between preferred targets and marks (an old Carney term), and you want to impeach the president? There is a lot here that needs to be done. Why do our national agencies that are supposed to be protecting us and our interests behave like badly trained television swat teams? What happened to bravery and brains? What happeded to the low key and very effective presence that used to be law enforcement? Police were always present, but they didn't feel obligated to shoot or beat up every citizen who bumped into them. Why do they now? There's a lot that needs to be done here, and I suggest that citizens start finding a way that they can be saved from the police and federal agencies which now seem only to be looking for excuses to abuse them. It has nothing to do with Clinton or Reno. It didn't start with Clinton's administration, and it won't stop with a Republican in the White House either. Remember all that "LAW AND ORDER" you wanted? Well to carefully recruited, not too smart folks who are now serving as our nation's finest. That means, lock and load and go get em' Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Waco's Little Rock Connection
-Caveat Lector- --- Ric Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bite the (alleged) duck's ass and see. Only if you buy the orange sauce.snort __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: A Message to the Militia- Stand Down
-Caveat Lector- forwarded Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -Original Message- From: Globalist Agendas Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 2:11 PM Subject: A Message to the Militia- From JJ Waco Revelations: An Analysis (A message to the Patriot/Militia Movement) By J.J. Johnson No doubt many of you have been besieged by the numerous postings about what happened back in Mt Carmel, Texas beginning on Feb 28, 1993. This is due in part to sudden new information that seems to have recently come to the surface. What is so surprising to me is that to most of us, these new revelations are more than six years old. It is for this reason, we believe something much more sinister is a foot. It has been said, If we do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. The history of this administration shows us that when ever information critical to its integrity comes forward, it is -not long before something literally blows up. Examples of this Wag-the-Dog principle are the aspirin factory in Sudan, Iraq (a convenient punching bag), Kosovo, and to some degree, the Oklahoma City bombing - just to name a few. Rush Limbaugh has been stating repeatedly on his program that the end result of any Clinton scandal usually results in the downfall of the accuser. In, this case, history has shown this to be true. Question: who are the original accusers in the Waco Holocaust? Answer: Patriots, Militia, and those who speak out against government. The Waco evidence now snowballing in the media does much more than threaten the credibility of the Justice Department. Heaven knows, it had little or no credibility left, anyway. As the truth continues to leak out, it will damage the credibility of the so-called watch-dog groups, the media, and government as whole. Again, we have seen another article about the potential threats from extremist groups at the end of the year. Has anyone notice in all the hype, that this is the forth time this article has been printed (in different forms) this year. Those who archive these articles who notice that recent events (such as the assault on the Jewish community center) are merely plugged in to make the story sound more up-to-date. Thus, many people think that the government has something dirty(er) up their sleeves. Y2K maybe the excuse for Martial Law, some say. Clinton needs something to stay in power. Big event. Blame the Militia. Take the guns. Right? Lets say this was true for a moment. There are big problems with this theory: 1. There is no Militia to blame. Those not tossed in jail wisely went to ground, or disbanned. To date, the media has obeyed the order to keep all those radicals off the talking head shows. 2. Gun Control Failure. If there was an attempt to disarm this country by years end, it has been a dismal failure. America is now armed to the teeth. Ammo is moving off the selves faster than it can be produced. Trust in government is at an all time low. (Notice no Clinton approval ratings recently) 3. Military in chaos. The lynchpin of the Iron Fist is contemplating the draft because no American with half a brain wants their sons (and daughters) taking up arms for this regime. They cant even get compliance for an anthrax vaccine. There simply isnt the quality personnel available to conduct wide-scale house-to-house gun confiscations. Foreign troop intervention will just make it more fun.. They are begging for pilots, engineers, and a few good men. We expect more than half of the enlisted personnel to jump ship at the drop of a hat. 4. Financial Fears. It has been all but assured that too many folks will keep some extra cash around for Y2K meaning the Fed cant print it out fast enough. Add to this, the dilemma of all those Americans who didnt bother to file tax returns this year, figuring there wont be an IRS computer system around to find them next year. 5. Hillary Al. Folks, she bombing in the Empire State. The Tree is bombing nation-wide. Many of the rats (democratic loyalists) are abandoning ship. Hillary doesnt take loosing well. Mark my word, Waco will lead to her doorstep. (Ask Vince Foster) 6. Russia. Forget China. They never did like us. Russia is a time-bomb waiting to happen. In fact, there is no Russia anymore. Yeltsin eating his pistol could boost his approval ratings. This once nuclear power is now a rogue state. And you wouldnt believe what some people will do just for food. (Ask the Chinese Navy) Therefore, if the power-hungry-wannabees want to stay in power, they need an enemy fast. So now we get all this Waco stuff. This from the same media that can cover up TWA Flight 800 right in our faces. Why now? Why all this Waco stuff? As I am writing this article, this came into my mailbox (referring to Waco): " The anti-government movement, the militia, hate groups are absolutely going
[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] MadCow cattle guard
From: Daniel Hopsicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] cattle guard: a closely spaced group of horizontal pipes placed in a roadbed at fence line to prevent cattle from escaping and yet allow vehicles free access. dudes, i'm gonna take a month off this list to finish my book-- before it finishes me. i'll leave y'all with this shocker: yesterday i 'dropped in' on a prominent 'antique dealer' in new orleans, who also happens to have been barry seal's long-time CIA handler. although he denied knowing seal, his protests were more 'for the record' than anything else, and he spent almost a full hour in an upstairs office with debby seal and I. his name is dave dixon. in case anyone here questions how truly deep this all goes, mr. dixon is one of the most prominent citizens of louisiana, revered as the father of the Louisiana Superdome. Usually described in the local press as a French Quarter art dealer, he is also the man credited with bringing professional football to New Orleans, changing the face of professional tennis, and being the architect of the United States Football League. ca-ching. -- Daniel Hopsicker The Drug Money Times http://www.MadCowProd.com "All the news that's ripped from print!" Scandal in contemporary U.S. life is an institutionalized sociological phenomenon. It is not due primarily to psychopathological variables, but is due to the institutionalization of elite wrongdoing which has occcurred since 1963." "Many of the scandals that have occurred in the U.S. since 1963 are fundamentally interrelated: that is, the same people and institutions have been involved." --Prof.David Simon, "Elite Deviance 6th edition --- ONElist Sponsor ONElist: your connection to like-minds and kindred spirits.
[CTRL] GWS Tuite reports
Title: Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart The Tuite Reports Return to the Persian Gulf War Syndrome Lobby. ChronicIllnet is proud to have Mr. James J. Tuite, III -the former congressional investigator under Senator Donald Riegle- continue his pursuit of determining what happened to the troops while deployed in the Gulf and how their exposures are tied to their present illnesses and those of their close family members. Mr. Tuite begins his series of reports with his editorial on "When Science and Politics Collide." We highly recommend you read these reports to understand how chemicals may be important triggers in the initiation of chronic illnesses. 1. Abstracts Obtained from Iran on Medical Research Conducted After the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq War 2. When Science and Politics Collide 3. UNITED STATES DUAL-USE EXPORTS TO IRAQ AND THEIR IMPACT ON THE HEALTH OF THE PERSIAN GULF WAR VETERANSU.S. Senate, Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, SENATOR DONALD W. RIEGLE, JR., CHAIRMAN-- WEDNESDAY, MAY 25, 1994 4. U.S. Chemical and Biological Exports to Iraq and Their Possible Impact on the Health Consequences of the Persian Gulf War.Committee Staff Report No. 3: Chemical Warfare Agent Identification, Chemical Injuries, and Other Findings. 5. Potentiation of Agent Toxicity in Animals (Sheep) 6. PGS and Delayed Toxic Effects of Chemical Agent Exposure 7. 1991 PERSIAN GULF WAR: DIRECT AND INDIRECT CHEMICAL WARFARE AGENT AND RELATED EXPOSURES 8. Testimony - H.R. Govt. Reform and Oversight - Sept. 19, 1996 9. SELECTED REPORTS OF DIRECT CHEMICAL WARFARE AGENT DEPLOYMENT, EXPOSURE, OR LIMITED USE DURING AND AFTER OPERATION DESERT STORM 10. Report on the Fallout from the Destruction of the Iraqi Chemical Research, Production and Storage Facilities into Areas Occupied by US Military Personnel During the 1991 Persian Gulf War 11. Gulf War Syndrome: A Case for Mixed Chemical Agent - Biotoxin Related Exposures (September 9, 1993)Note: This was the first official government report disclosing that US forces were exposed to chemical warfare agents and other hazardous compounds. 12. U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs: Second Staff Report on U.S. Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual-Use Exports to Iraq and The Possible Impact on the Health Consequences of the War (May 25, 1994) NEW Testimony of James J. Tuite, IIIto the Presidential Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' IllnessesSalt Lake City, UtahMarch 18, 1997 Statement of James J. Tuite, III Before the State of Colorado Joint Senate and House Committee on Veterans and Military AffairsFebruary 28, 1995 NEW Mr. Tuite's investigations have uncovered the exposure of Allied troops to chemical warfare agents. This exposure is finally being acknowledged by the Department of Defense. Senator Robert C. Byrd has offered amendments for the care of children of Gulf War vets and for indepedent research. You can read Senator Robert Byrd's article, "Caring for Some of War's Most Innocent Victims" under the Tuite Reports.
Re: [CTRL] CORROBORATIVE INFO FROM THE JOURNAL OF APPLIED PHYSICS
-Caveat Lector- Yes, indeed, I passed the posts on as interesting and as a response to Tony's interview. and as to whetehr mr newman's machine works, I sure dunna know, As always, . . . And I would concur always, with independent verification. Om K In a message dated 9/4/99 2:20:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is NOT verified unless there is INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'Spy cameras may have been installed in photocopiers all ...
-Caveat Lector- Spy cameras may have been installed in photocopiers all over the world, to keep an eye on U.S. allies as well as enemies." Another fine example of how "value-free Science" (boiling down to Technology, which historically began as Engineering For WARFARE] gives FIRST PRIORITY to "national defense," with its supposed benefits "for mankind" provided only in trickle-down fashion, as an afterthought, or worse, cleverly using profits from nonmilitary adaptations to recompense the RD needed for military applications. Rule of thumb: Technology in the public domain --NON-secret technology-- is always about 25 years behind that same technology classified as secret. During that interval, all potential OFFENSIVE applications have already been researched, tested, and were APPLIED -- long before that technology's "invention," by then "denatured," is formally announced to the public. No technology that COULD be used for spying has NOT gone through those stages. For example, when the telephone first became a possibility, ITT (father of ATT and Bell Labs) made an agreement with international spymasters that the system it would erect --the first telephone network-- would secretly include the means for intelligence agencies to eavesdrop, WITHOUT TAPS. Adm. Hillenkoetter (an early CIA Director) plainly admitted that in a book published in the middle '70s, and in a conversation I once had with a slightly tipsy, overly talkative senior tech from ATT, the fact was confirmed. The NSA can do that --electronically but WIRELESSLY (no physical taps) listen in on whomever it chooses-- but not the FBI and possibly not even the CIA, because there are LEVELS of national security and the FBI is nowhere near the TOP of this food chain Now. of course, we have Bill Gates (William H. Gates III, William H. Gates II being a merchant banker) and the "phenomenal success" of his Microsoft, an NSA "front" ... Radio and television, by their nature not designed for TWO-WAY communication and therefore less INTRINSICALLY* (i.e., as part of their construction for consumer use) surveillable, have LIKEWISE been successfully co-opted by The Powers That Be for "offensive" purposes, but in a less obvious way -- as tools for "social engineering," opinion-molding, public attitude formation, and emotional reality-making. Radio came into its own with Orson Welles' famous "War of the Worlds" hoax-broadcast; radio's potential for manipulating emotions was not missed by The Powers That Be, who (as Kris can show you, if he reposts earlier docs from CTRL) turned that objective into a science of its own -- serendipitously, before TELEVISION and before THAT medium's even greater potential for "mind control" ... The first official use of TV was by Hitler in 1936, predictably for Nazi propaganda purposes, and in the decades since, well ... __ *Except indirectly, using technology like "Tempest" ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Authority to Keep and Bear Arms
-Caveat Lector- "The Empire still lives!" (--PK Dick) -- and all TRUE followers of the "Liberator" (a plain, clear Greek term since watered down to imply a NON-PHYSICAL "savior" or "rescuer") are still being persecuted and/or executed for "sedition" against the Absolutist State ... 2000 years of "spiritual" theatre --maudlin bread and circuses for the slave caste-- and a bogus STATE religion ... God IS dead -- so-called CHRISTIANS, in effect, killed Him ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-05 03:10:04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to a friend of mine who studied NLP, with an eye to setting up a practice, it was devised by the CIA as a means of "interrogation". Neurolinguistic Programming is a variant on mind control techniques in that it installs "alters" to carry out certain tasks and "anchors" or trigger words to evoke certain programmed behavior. It was first used in the private sector to enable salesmen to determine their customers' archilles heels. NLP is a nasty, mind-messing bit of business that began and remains in the very worst hands. Gregory Bateson did the seminal work on the NLP process. I'd like to see some corroboration for these assertions, because the devisers of NLP --Bandler Grinder-- clearly and explicitly created their system as a way of "pinning down" the extraordinary abilitity of one man, Dr Milton Erickson, to "hypnotize." There are dozens of volumes published by the NLP founders detailing their project to do so. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] How Uncle SamTurned into a Big Brother
-Caveat Lector- Actually, I think by now he's become a Big Mother-- DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News [re: Uranus]
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In a message dated 99-09-05 03:10:04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
@ OURANUS IS URANUS IS HEAVEN! URANUS, THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND! Uranus is
the
ruling planet of the age of Aquarius that we are now entering. As we look
around we see that Uranus is true to its reputation, to shake traditional
aspects of life cause things to turn upside down. It's right on
schedule
isn't it? In the Bible Jesus says, " The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand."
The New Testament was written in Greek and the Greek word for heaven is
Ouranos. Uranus. What was actually being said was, " The Kingdom Of
Uranus
is at hand," and we are witnesses to its changing power. Keep watching.
http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/hidden.html#KINGDOM
Uhhh, eh hem... Excuse me, but Heaven may be YOUR anus, but it sure isn't
mine! Speak for yourself, okay?
Uh ... LOL A few observations here that may help remove your head from
Uranus.
(1) The term "Kingdom of Heaven" used in the NT is a EUPHEMISM -- avoiding
direct reference to the name of God (Yhwh) in similar fashion as translating
"Yhwh" in the Hebrew obliquely as "Lord" (Kurios) in the Greek (and therefore
in English translation too). The more literal term "Kingdom of God"
(="Divine Kingdom" or "GOD's Rule," in contrast to the rule or territory of
CAESAR) is the preferred in the EARLIER Gospels.
(2) In ancient astrology, back when the zodiac was new, the symbolism for the
sign of Aquarius was that of a handsome youth holding a water jar or cup, in
his role of "butler" or cupbearer to his Lord. In Sumerian myth, the youth
was Adapa (the model for the Biblical Enoch), who recklessly flew to Heaven
on the back of the divine Zu bird in order to steal the secret of
immortality. In Greek myth, it was Ganymedes, whom sky-god Zeus (swooping
down in totemic eagle form) seized and carried off to Olympus to serve as his
servant and pederastic toy-boy. (For THAT reason, it's a fairly common
belief among literate "New Age" homosexuals that the "Age of Aquarius" will
establish a new culture based on "unisex" bonds and homosexuality in general,
turning upside-down the "obsolete" Patriarchal social order.) In the
Babylonian myth of Gilgamesh, in the 12 sequential "tablets" that portray the
Sun King's course through the zodiac (a la "labors" of Hercules), the tablet
corresponding to Aquarius tells the story of the prideful, violent race of
men --those striving to be "like God," as the Serpent promised Adam Eve--
whose hybris was punished by God in Noah's Flood. So, the one theme of
Aquarius which all these archetypes have in common is the greedy intellect of
mere mortals, who seek unauthorized entry to "Heaven" and acquisition of
divine status, but who are then PUNISHED for their arrogance -- at best,
they're "abducted by aliens" to be SLAVES.
(3) The ancients held that the sign of Aquarius was ruled by the planet
Saturn -- the planet ruling Law and Order (actually the Laws of Nature, which
men tend to violate with impunity), but (also sharing rulership of Capricorn)
in a more COLLECTIVE form, e.g., the GROUP ("hive") authority of councils and
elders. Then, when the planet Uranus (originally named "Herschel," after its
discoverer) was discovered in the late 1700s, coinciding with a revolutionary
era, astrologers decided for the first time that Uranus was the true ruler of
the sign Aquarius. They began to study its effects in individual natal
charts, and what they concluded was that, first, "Uranians" were "deviates,"
prone to homosexuality (hence the term "Uranian" was often used in the
Victorian Age to glorify gay and lesbian literati as "supermen" with
"special" sensibilities), and secondly, were "rebels" temperamentally driven
by compulsion to "shock" people with their unorthodox behavior -- "different"
purely for the sake of "difference." In time, the influence of Uranus was
detected in other areas generally more positive (despite its being most
angular in galvanizing public speaker Hitler's chart and dominant in square
to Bill Gates' sun), but even today among astrologers, Uranus in strong
aspect to one of the EMOTIONAL or INSTINCTIVE planets (Moon or Venus) is a
dead giveaway regarding sexual orientation.
(Uranus in aspect to other planets tends to "dissociate" a person from the
physical and the norm, resulting in a highly mentalized "objectivity,"
removed from "natural" feelings, and thus inclining toward a cool
"scientific" non-identification with the physical world
as most humans know it. Mental brilliance with inhuman indifference to
others, except insofar as they provide food for thought and/or new, unusual
experiences/experiments. They make good engineers, but also, good
ideologues, terrorists, and Nazi doctors ...)
Uranus apparently DOES rule Aquarius -- the good and bad of it, as earlier
described.
You're not too far off, in CERTAIN respects. A joke among astrologers has
been, "Yes, men are from Mars, women are from Venus; but gays are
[CTRL] EU's Germany Eyes Poland
-Caveat Lector- Liebensraum 2000 ... "As the first German leader without any personal memory of the Nazi era, Schroeder has been trying to assert Germany's role as a major European power less encumbered with the bitter memories associated with Nazism and the war. "Schroeder said Germany must remember its past aggression against Poland in order to build stronger ties with it today ..." German Leader Makes Push for Poland By BEATA PASEK .c The Associated Press WARSAW, Poland (AP) - German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder ended a mostly symbolic, 2-day trip to Poland today, a trip that commemorated the Nazi invasion of Poland 60 years ago and stressed his country's support for Poland to join the European Union. During Schroeder's stroll today through Warsaw's Old Town, one woman he passed recalled five years she spent as a slave laborer for the Nazis. However, she said, Schroeder's visit was a good sign for future Polish-German relations. ``Life goes on and we cannot live in hatred. It's good for young people,'' said Jadwiga Rzeczkowska, 75. ``I went through many painful things, but I've accepted that as the past.'' The walk concluded a visit that focused on the past and the future. On Friday, he placed flowers at a memorial to Nazi war victims and attended a concert commemorating the German invasion of Sept. 1, 1939, that started World War II. Schroeder also met with President Aleksander Kwasniewski and Prime Minister Jerzy Buzek to pledge his support for Poland's goal of joining the European Union in the year 2003. While calling the date ambitious, Schroeder said Germany would do everything it its power to help Poland succeed. Several former Soviet bloc countries, including Poland, are negotiating to join the European Union, but economic issues such as subsidies for 4 million Polish farmers have complicated their applications. As the first German leader without any personal memory of the Nazi era, the 55-year-old Schroeder has been trying to assert Germany's role as a major European power less encumbered with the bitter memories associated with Nazism and the war. On Friday, Schroeder twice said Germany must remember its past aggression against Poland in order to build strong ties today. But sticky issues linked to the war remain unresolved, including compensation for people forced into slave labor by the Nazis and the return of art work the Nazis took from Poland. A report today in Gazeta Wyborcza, Poland's largest circulation newspaper, said Schroeder and Buzek agreed their governments would turn over centuries-old archival material to each other, a possible first step toward ending the art work dispute. Also today, Schroeder held a 30-minute meeting with leftist opposition leader Leszek Miller that focused on cooperation between their parties and German-Polish relations, including German exiles' claims for property returned to Poland after World War II. Under a draft restitution law approved this week by the Polish government, only Polish citizens would be eligible for compensation for property seized by the Nazis and communist rulers. Miller said Schroeder told him Poland should consider talking to some of the German exiles seeking compensation. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Space Shuttles Grounded
-Caveat Lector- Space Shuttles Virtually Grounded By MARCIA DUNN .c The Associated Press CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) - Space shuttle flights are off until at least mid-October because of a startling amount of damaged wiring discovered throughout the fleet. An exposed wire caused a short circuit that knocked out two engine computers during the launch of the shuttle Columbia in July. Similar flaws later were uncovered elsewhere on Columbia and in the wiring on Endeavour and Discovery. ``It is a serious situation,'' shuttle program manager Ron Dittemore said Thursday. ``We are not going to fly again until we understand what we have and get it fixed.'' As of late this week, technicians had discovered 38 spots with exposed wiring in Endeavour and 26 in Discovery, and even more places where the wires need to be reinforced with tubes and Teflon wrapping ``to bulletproof it the best we can,'' Dittemore said. A quick check of Atlantis turned up one suspect wire. Endeavour should have gone up in mid-September with radar equipment to map Earth's surface, Discovery in mid-October with crucial replacement parts for the Hubble Space Telescope. The delays are making this the leanest year for shuttle launches since 1988, when flights resumed following the Challenger disaster. With only two more launches scheduled by year's end, there could be just four in 1999. The trouble began July 23, when a short circuit five seconds into Columbia's launch knocked out computers for two of the shuttle's three main engines. Because each engine has two computers and only one is needed, Columbia made it to orbit with five astronauts and the powerful Chandra X-ray Observatory. It was believed to be the first time in 95 shuttle missions that a short circuit occurred during liftoff, by far the most dangerous part of the flight. If an engine had shut down, the shuttle would have had to attempt an unprecedented emergency landing in Florida or in Africa. Because Columbia was still in the atmosphere - and not in the vacuum of space - when the short happened in the cargo bay, sparks could have ignited. But shuttle circuit breakers are much more sensitive than those in a home or even on a plane; they immediately pop when a short occurs, halting the flow of electricity. That's what happened aboard Columbia. The half-second short was caused by an exposed wire that had lost its insulation in one spot, allowing the wire to come in contact with a rough screw. Workers evidently had stepped on the wire or brushed a tool or work platform against it. It's possible the damage was there since Columbia's first flight in 1981; the wiring is original. At first, NASA thought the exposed wire in its oldest shuttle was unique and perhaps the result of age. But technicians found another flawed wire on the opposite side of the cargo bay. As a precaution, NASA ordered inspections of the wiring in its three other shuttles. The inspections will take at least another few weeks. Each shuttle has 200 miles of wiring; half of it is being checked, the half where workers are most likely to have damaged it. NASA has yet to decide which mission will go first once flights resume. ``I've told the folks that I don't want you worrying about launch dates,'' Dittemore said. ``I want your heads down in the foxhole fixing these wires.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Federal Mismanagement Follies #4,592
-Caveat Lector- Energy Dept. Admits Laser Flaws By H. JOSEF HEBERT .c The Associated Press WASHINGTON (AP) - Energy Secretary Bill Richardson is ordering an overhaul of an ambitious $1.2 billion program to build the world's largest laser after finding hundreds of millions of dollars in cost overruns. Richardson said he was erroneously assured as recently as June that the project at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California was on target and within budget. The massive laser, which will be housed in a facility as large as a football field and include 192 beams once completed, is a key part of a program to monitor and maintain America's nuclear warheads without actually testing them. Energy Department officials said mismanagement discovered recently may cause the project's cost to soar as much as $350 million above the originally projected $1.2 billion and delay the scheduled 2003 completion date by at least two years. Richardson's announcement Friday came a week after an embarrassing disclosure about the former project director's academic credentials. Edward Campbell resigned the post after it became known that for years he had implied he held a doctorate in electrical engineering when he had never completed his dissertation at Princeton University. Campbell remains an employee at Livermore. Department officials said his resignation was not related directly to the cost overruns. Officials at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, run by the University of California, did not immediately return telephone calls. Sharply critical of the university's handling of the laser construction, Richardson said he has ordered $2 million of the university's $5.6 million good-performance fee withheld because of the laser project problems. Additional money may be held back after a more thorough investigation, he said. The university ``must assume a stronger role in oversight of research and development projects'' such as the laser, Richardson said. He was particularly miffed about long delays in notifying him about management and cost problems surrounding the project, formally called the National Ignition Facility. ``As late as early June, ... I was informed that NIF was on cost and on schedule,'' Richardson said. He said he has directed an independent panel of experts to investigate what happened and recommend how to get the project back on course. Most cost overruns stem from underestimating the difficulty of assembling the high-precision optical components of the 192-beam laser system, said a senior Energy Department official who spoke on condition of anonymity. Richardson directed that a new contractor be found to carry out the final assembly and integration of the facility. The weapons lab retains overall responsibility for the finished product. Last March, Bruce Tarter, director of the Livermore lab, assured lawmakers at a congressional budget hearing that the project was progressing without problems and said half the 192 beams would be available by 2002. The project would be completed in 2003, he said. ``I am pleased to report that NIF construction is on budget and on schedule,'' Tarter testified. He asked for $248.1 million in construction funds for the fiscal year starting Oct. 1. He said 87 percent of the $1.2 billion total cost would be committed by the end of 2000. Since its inception in 1997, the program has been the object of seven scientific and four management reviews, the latest last spring. ``Clearly we have had a major project management surprise,'' Richardson said. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] George Jr and Promise Keepers
-Caveat Lector- "Rev. Tony Evans is a prominent speaker in Promise Keepers, a national evangelical men's group. He and Bush are friends who sometimes pray together." Bush Skips Gov.'s Border Gathering By SCOTT LINDLAW .c The Associated Press SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - When the governors of U.S.-Mexico border states gather for their annual conference this month, there will be one very conspicuous absence: Texas Gov. George W. Bush. He will be the only invited governor on either side of the border to skip the event. Last year, Bush was host to the gathering when it took place in Texas. Bush has cultivated warm trade and cultural relations with Mexico that for years have been the envy of other border states, particularly California. The front-running Republican presidential candidate has made his state's strong ties to Mexico part of his overtures to Hispanic voters. But when the border governors convene Sept. 9 in Tijuana, Mexico, Bush will be addressing an anniversary celebration for a church in the Dallas area, said Bush spokeswoman Mindy Tucker. ``He would have gone, but he had already agreed to attend the event for his friend Tony Evans,'' Tucker said. The Rev. Tony Evans is co-founder and pastor of Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship Church in Dallas and a prominent speaker in Promise Keepers, a national evangelical men's group. He and Bush are friends who sometimes pray together. The Sept. 9 celebration, marking both Evans' 50th birthday and the 30th anniversary of his ministry, is taking place so late that Bush won't be able to attend day two of the border conference either, Tucker said. The 17th annual border conference will focus on cross-border infrastructure, bolstering the image of the border region, protecting the environment and preparing for natural disasters. ``I think it will be a good time for them to come so we can expand all the relationships between the states, and fortify them,'' said Patricia Sahragui, a spokeswoman for Alejandro Gonzalez Alcocer, governor of the Mexican state of Baja California. But she understood Bush's decision. ``This event has been scheduled for a lot of months, but we can understand things that can be in their way, so they can't attend,'' Sahragui said. In July, Bush decided not to appear at a national conference of minority journalists in Seattle, even though he already was in town. Stung by criticism from conference attendees and from the news media, he reversed himself and showed up. A few weeks later, he angered some Hispanics by declining to speak to the National Council of La Raza, a Latino advocacy group. Bush was vacationing in Maine at the time. But Bush has made several trips to Mexico to meet with its presidents, and on Friday, he appeared with President Ernesto Zedillo at the opening of a new bridge on the Texas-Mexico border. On Thursday he attended a Latin Business Association luncheon in Los Angeles. With Bush absent, the other three U.S. governors will take on higher profiles. Gray Davis of California, Gary Johnson of New Mexico and Jane Hull of Arizona have said they will attend, joining six Mexican governors. The gathering will have special significance for Davis, who has made a point of improving California-Mexico ties after the tenure of California Gov. Pete Wilson, whom many Mexicans distrusted for his attempts to halt illegal immigration. When Davis replaced Wilson this year, one of his first acts was travel to Mexico City and Monterrey, Mexico, to bolster trade, education and cultural links. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Falsifying Data for Profit
-Caveat Lector- Lab Heads Admit Doctoring Tests By JEFFREY GOLD .c The Associated Press NEWARK, N.J. (AP) - Supervisors at a central New Jersey testing lab admitted Friday that they doctored data for a Japanese fuel blender so millions of gallons of gasoline designed to reduce air pollution would appear to meet federal standards. As a result, substandard reformulated gasoline was sold for 2 1/2 years to motorists in Connecticut, New Jersey and New York, according to the three men, who each pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court. The three men, supervisors at Caleb Brett's lab in Linden, said they falsified the data on behalf of Itochu Corp., The Japanese company shipped gasoline to Linden for distribution to retailers, but could not unload unless it met specifications. ``It was understood that if we didn't do it, Itochu would take their business elsewhere,'' said former supervisor Ronald J. Domnik, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency had no assessment yet of how much extra pollution the gasoline caused, spokesman Rich Cahill said. A lawyer for Itochu, Lanny Breuer, refused to discuss Itochu's alleged role, but said officials will cooperate with the Justice Department. Domnik and Julius Balogh, who also pleaded guilty to conspiracy, each face five years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Nicholas Lehman pleaded guilty to not telling authorities about the conspiracy and faces three years in prison and a $250,000 fine. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Russianization of Israel
-Caveat Lector- Will Mossad marry the Russian Mafia? Soviet Immigration Changes Israel By SERGEI SHARGORODSKY .c The Associated Press JERUSALEM (AP) - The saleswoman at a downtown Jerusalem pharmacy switches from accented Hebrew to her native Russian, explaining to an elderly customer how to take a prescription drug. Around the corner, the Arbat restaurant prepares for the evening influx of its emigre patrons. Posters at a nearby video store advertise a visiting Moscow pop star; a sweat-bathed customer picks up a handful of Russian-dubbed cassettes that seem to melt on this Mediterranean summer day. One can get by speaking only Russian in Israel these days. Businesses run by immigrants - from travel agencies to non-kosher butchers to Russian-language bookstores - dot the country. Newly formed theater groups put on plays in Russian. Immigrants frequent Russian cafes and can chose from a dozen Russian-language periodicals. In the 10 years since the Kremlin opened its gates to a mass Jewish exodus, 800,000 former Soviets have arrived in Israel. Adding the 150,000 who came in the 1970s, the immigrants now comprise Israel's largest ethnic group. Economic woes, political uncertainty and anti-Semitism in Russia and other former Soviet republics could motivate another 60,000 to move to Israel by the end of the year, immigration officials say. The newcomers, among them a large number of academics, doctors and engineers, have left their mark. Eleven of Israel's 120 legislators are immigrants. The immigrant vote has been credited with determining the outcome of the past three elections. In the May vote, Prime Minister Ehud Barak won, in part, because many Russian voters withdrew their support of his hard-line predecessor, Benjamin Netanyahu. Over the past several years, Soviet emigres have risen to senior municipal posts across Israel. They represent the country in international sports events and beauty contests. With their arrival, the overall education level jumped up, and the number of immigrant officers in the army is on the rise. Immigrant professors and scientists injected new blood into the academic life and Israel's hi-tech industry. The number of professional orchestras has swelled from four to 11. Despite their successes, many immigrants feel they don't quite belong. Yevgeny Soshkin, 25, who edits a magazine sponsored by the Ministry of Immigrant Absorption, avoids socializing with veteran Israelis, saying they are too intrusive and unrefined. Soshkin's transition from the Ukrainian town of Kharkiv to the Israeli desert backwater of Arad in December of 1990 was fraught with pain and rejection. In his hometown, he had started attending medical college. In Arad, the thin, dark-haired youth had to go back to high school. ``I suddenly found myself in hell,'' he said, comparing the unruly classroom to a ``monkey cage.'' His parents also had to scale down their expectations. His father, a former tank academy lecturer, found work as a janitor in a neighborhood of immigrants and his mother teaches biology in high school. Still, Soshkin feels life his getting better. He speaks perfect Hebrew and has moved to Jerusalem where he studies Slavic Studies at the Hebrew University. He knows his way around the city and, like veteran Israelis, likes to eat spicy Middle Eastern food in the outdoor Mahane Yehuda market. The initial euphoria in Israel over the wave of Soviet immigrants quickly gave way to mistrust and disdain. Strictly observant Jews felt the immigration tide carried too many non-Jews to the country, endangering its Jewish character. Many Israelis with roots in North African and Middle Eastern countries who for years encountered discrimination by the European-born Ashkenazi elites were envious of the privileges granted to the newcomers. Indeed, the Soviets received more generous rent subsidies and living allowances than the Sephardi Jews who came from Morocco, Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries in the 1950s, at a time when Israel was still struggling for survival. Today, the government is spending billions of dollars a year on absorbing immigrants. Some veteran Israelis feel the immigrants are opportunists seizing a way to get out Russia, but caring little for Zionist ideology. Stand-up comedians ridicule the ``Russim.'' Police reinforce negative stereotypes with reports that thousands of Russian prostitutes were brought to Israel and that the Russian Mafia is laundering billions of dollars in the country. In 1997, 63 percent of veteran Israelis polled for Israel Radio were opposed to encouraging more immigration from the former Soviet Union and 80 percent said the immigrants were competitors in the workplace. Some 24.5 percent said they associated ``nothing positive'' with the immigrants. Veteran Israelis in the peace camp were angry with the newcomers for espousing hawkish views and accused them of being ignorant of the conflict with the Palestinians. The immigrants,
[CTRL] NSA Builds Security Access Into Windows
-Caveat Lector- Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:41:41 PDT From: "cliff kadmon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: [FP] NSA Builds Security Access Into Windows == SCAN THIS NEWS 9/4/99 [Three articles on Microsoft Windows hidden government-access keys] == NSA Builds Security Access Into Windows http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19990903S0014 (09/03/99 By Duncan Campbell, TechWeb A careless mistake by Microsoft programmers has shown that special access codes for use by the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) have been secretly built into ALL VERSIONS OF THE WINDOWS OPERATING SYSTEM. Computer-security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual features are contained inside a standard Windows driver used for security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables and controls a range of security functions including the Microsoft Cryptographic API (MS-CAPI). In particular, it authenticates modules signed by Microsoft, letting them run without user intervention. At last year's Crypto 98 conference, British cryptography specialist Nicko van Someren said he had disassembled the driver and found it contained two different keys. One was used by Microsoft to control the cryptographic functions enabled in Windows, in compliance with U.S. export regulations. But the reason for building in a second key, or who owned it, remained a mystery. Now, a North Carolina security company has come up with conclusive evidence the second key belongs to the NSA. Like van Someren, Andrew Fernandez, chief scientist with Cryptonym of Morrisville, North Carolina, had been probing the presence and significance of the two keys. Then he checked the latest Service Pack release for Windows NT4, Service Pack 5. He found Microsoft's developers had failed to remove or "strip" the debugging symbols used to test this software before they released it. Inside the code were the labels for the two keys. One was called "KEY." The other was called "NSAKEY." Fernandez reported his re-discovery of the two CAPI keys, and their secret meaning, to the "Advances in Cryptology, Crypto'99" conference held in Santa Barbara. According to those present at the conference, Windows developers attending the conference did not deny the "NSA" key was built into their software. But they refused to talk about what the key did, or why it had been put there without users' knowledge. But according to two witnesses attending the conference, even Microsoft's top crypto programmers were stunned to learn that the version of ADVAPI.DLL shipping with Windows 2000 contains not two, but three keys. Brian LaMachia, head of CAPI development at Microsoft was "stunned" to learn of these discoveries, by outsiders. This discovery, by van Someren, was based on advance search methods which test and report on the "entropy" of programming code. Within Microsoft, access to Windows source code is said to be highly compartmentalized, making it easy for modifications to be inserted without the knowledge of even the respective product managers. No researchers have yet discovered a programming module which signs itself with the NSA key. Researchers are divided about whether it might be intended to let U.S. government users of Windows run classified cryptosystems on their machines or whether it is intended to open up anyone's and everyone's Windows computer to intelligence gathering techniques deployed by the NSA's burgeoning corps of "information warriors." According to Fernandez of Cryptonym, the result of having the secret key inside your Windows operating system "is that it is tremendously easier for the NSA to load unauthorized security services on all copies of Microsoft Windows, and once these security services are loaded, they can effectively compromise your entire operating system". The NSA key is contained inside all versions of Windows from Windows 95 OSR2 onward. "For non-American IT managers relying on WinNT to operate highly secure data centers, this find is worrying," he added. "The U.S government is currently making it as difficult as possible for 'strong' crypto to be used outside of the U.S. That they have also installed a cryptographic back-door in the world's most abundant operating system should send a strong message to foreign IT managers. "How is an IT manager to feel when they learn that in every copy of Windows sold, Microsoft has installed a 'back door' for the NSA -- making it orders of magnitude easier for the U.S. government to access your computer?" he said. Van Someren said he felt the primary purpose of the NSA key might be for legitimate U.S. government use. But he said there cannot be a legitimate explanation for the third key in Windows 2000 CAPI. "It looks more fishy," he said on Friday. Fernandez said he believed the NSA's built-in loophole could be turned round against the
Re: [CTRL] NSA Embedded in Software? .
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/04/1999 2:38:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Microsoft officials acknowledged that the episode was in any case a black eye for the world's largest software publisher. "We're going to pay and pay and pay for this," said one of the company's security experts, who spoke on the grounds that he not be identified. So if you're doing anything sneaky, buy Mac. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What DID happen to Itavia Flight 870?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/04/1999 2:45:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For 19 years, the cause of the crash has remained unresolved, shrouded in conspiracy theories and cover-ups. Now a new chapter in the mystery of Flight 870 is being written. The Italian government this week indicted four retired Italian air force generals and six senior military intelligence officers for treason, charging them with conspiring to keep silent and destroying evidence of the true cause of the tragedy. What an obscenity our leaders everywhere have become. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Should we trust the government?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/05/1999 3:10:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. Well, it might put a kink in rumored plans of Emperor William to remain in the White House after 2000. And that will take care of the people slaughtered the next time our federal agencies decide to "control a situation." Prudy Red herring! Changing the topic of discussion hardly counts as an argument against a claim. Well to link this together the way it happens for me is this. I can't see how Clinton in or out of the White House or anybody else for that matter being in the White House is going to stop the murder of the innocent the next time our law enforcement agencies of one kind or another decide to "SWAT" whomever they want as a target. I would think that the purpose of finally getting our Government to admit they committed murder at WACO is to stop it from happening again. They've committed this same kind of thing under other presidents. On lesser or greater scales this has happened again and again for some time. I don't like it, and I want it to stop. Whether its a Republicrat or a Democan sitting in the White House will not make the difference I want to see. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Anthrax Vacine Disaster!
-Caveat Lector- From: Jack Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Americans, First of all I would like to thank Jack Koenig for forwarding this important request to his mailing list. Those concerned with the forced Anthrax vaccine program among military personnel have worked diligently for over a year to bring the dangers and shortcomings of this ill conceived program to the attention of congress. Congressman Shays has conducted several hearings on the safety and efficacy of this program. In addition to a web petition to stop this program located at: http://www.e-thepeople.com/petition.cfm?PETID=194215 There are two bills designed to stop the program that need support from all of us. Many members of the military are ill following their being injected with one of more doses of this vaccine. Many are threatened into silence, still others have testified in congressional hearings recently. DoD has gone to great effort to silence those military personnel who speak out on the internet. Some have had their posts to a mailing list on this topic handed to them within hours by their commander, and threatened with charges of attempting to incite mutiny, still others have literally been told not to contact even their congressmen. There is a wealth of information on this subject located at: http://www.dallasnw.quik.com/cyberella/ For those who are willing to help by signing our petition and contacting congress, please feel free to forward this plea to the owner of all lists you may belong to and others who may be willing to sign our petition. A short statement from Major Thomas L. Rempfer below: Thank you, Gretchen Whitney --- Dear Americans, Servicemembers worldwide are speaking out load and clear. Unfortunately, it is through resignations and court-martials. If the mandatory anthrax vaccination policy moratorium legislation becomes law the bleeding of our armed forces readiness will stop. Servicemembers know the threat, and are willing to serve our nation in light of these dangers. Inoculations should be ceased, or made voluntary, until our nation's leaders can offer a safe vaccine, or reevaluate the policy decision to vaccinate against this infinitely dynamic form of warfare. Servicemembers are doing their duty in challenging this doctrinally dubious policy which has manifested itself as a questionable order on every level. We respectfully request a review of this policy and your support of a petition to encourage legislation proposed by our representatives in Congress. Maj. (s) Thomas L. Rempfer This month's Impactnet is sponsored by Senitel Communications. For 100% fiber optic long distance at 5.9 cents/minute from a TOP TIER carrier, visit http://www.senitel.com/www.senitel.com . This IS NOT a teaser rate and is good 24 hours/day, seven days/week with no minimums, no signup charges, or other hidden costs. The Impact Voters of America and their Impact Networks focus on better government. Join us by completing the simple application at http://www.impactnet.org/www.impactnet.org . It doesn't cost a cent! Our email list has now grown to over 17,000. If you received this post as forwarded information and wish to become part of this great list, send your name and email address to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Communications without knowledge is noise. And knowledge without communications is irrelevant! Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
Re: [CTRL] Truth From Feds Is Hard to Find [Waco]
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/05/1999 3:10:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Cover-Up Game is actually a stall tactic. If you can delay an investigation for 10-50 years, then drag it through panels, studies, commissions, and courts for another quartr of a century, all the leading players will be either retired, doddering, or dead--and thus have attained their objective. The deed is done and the perpetrators get off scott free. Furthermore, all those who were affected or who cared passionately about the matter will also be dead, retired, or past caring and the general public of that future time will only take note of an interesting historical curiosity. That's modern justice for ya. I wish this wasn't true, but it right on the button. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Public Access to Federally Funded Research Data
-Caveat Lector- From: Jack Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sunshine Needed! I have been asked to forward the following important information. Jack ACTION ALERT -- Immediate Action Needed Comments must be filed by Friday September 10th. Most of you are already familiar with the controversy over public access to federally-funded research data. In a nutshell, Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL) inserted a two-sentence requirement into P.L. 105-277 last fall that permits public access to federally-funded research data under FOIA guidelines. Eagle Forum supported the Senator Shelby requirement, and submitted comments earlier this year when the OMB issued its initial proposed regulations. Sunshine is a disinfectant, and public access to such data minimizes corruption, mistakes, and fraud concerning such data. For example, the tragedy of the rotavirus vaccine would never have happened if the public had access to the data used by the FDA and CDC in recommending the vaccine. I have been studying the reports and have concluded that the FDA and CDC ignored and concealed data that showed the problems from the outset. The Shelby Amendment, if properly implemented, would ensure that federally-financed research about vaccines could not be withheld from the public. Ultimately this rule should be extended to all data on which the government makes vaccine policy decisions, including privately-funded research data as well. This would greatly improve the integrity of vaccine policymaking. Although 55% of the commenters to OMB indicated their support for the Shelby amendment, OMB has now issued new proposed regulations that would eviscerate the amendment, particularly with respect to vaccine data. We only have until September 10th to submit comments as text (not an attachment) in an e-mail to F. James Charney, Policy Analyst, OMB, Re: OMB Circular A-110, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This recent proposal by OMB would effectively remove all federally-funded vaccine research from public access. It does this by only allowing public access for data "used by the Federal Government in developing a regulation" pursuant to formal rulemaking proceedings. The CDC vaccine recommendations would not qualify, although they would have qualified under the broader rule proposed by OMB earlier this year. The OMB proposed regulation is available at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/OMB/fedreg/2ndnotice-a110.html We need as many people commenting as possible! Time is of the essence. Please write to: F. James Charney, Policy Analyst, OMB, ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and insist he implement the Shelby Amendment as intended! Make certain to cite OMB Circular A-110. This month's Impactnet is sponsored by Senitel Communications. For 100% fiber optic long distance at 5.9 cents/minute from a TOP TIER carrier, visit http://www.senitel.com/www.senitel.com . This IS NOT a teaser rate and is good 24 hours/day, seven days/week with no minimums, no signup charges, or other hidden costs. The Impact Voters of America and their Impact Networks focus on better government. Join us by completing the simple application at http://www.impactnet.org/www.impactnet.org . It doesn't cost a cent! Our email list has now grown to over 17,000. If you received this post as forwarded information and wish to become part of this great list, send your name and email address to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Communications without knowledge is noise. And knowledge without communications is irrelevant! Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/ For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: UNDERNEWS Sep 4
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/04/1999 4:28:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MENAGE A TROIS: The Clinton's sweetheart real estate deal illustrates once again that the law is no better than those who write and enforce it. In today's Washington, anything goes and when, it doesn't, the law is simply reinterpreted to make sure it does. To get a handle of the absurdity involved in this house business, imagine one of your friends co-signing your mortgage note so you can buy yourself a nicer house than you could possibly afford given your financial condition. Make it a $1.7 million house and homebuyer who is $5 million in debt and any argument that the deal is altruistic become comedic. There is only one sane reason to do such a thing and that it because you expect something in return. Years ago giving a pol something of value was called a bribe, kickback, or payoff. Then the lawyers and politicians got hold of the laws and start rewriting them so that it wasn't enough that you gave a politician something of value, but there had to be a provable quid pro quo or, in this case, an easily determined dollar value to the gift. Then the lawyers and politicians would stand before the media and declare something to be ethical because it met their deeply corrupted standards. And the media could be counted on not to see through the scam. This struck me as odd as well. When Reagan left office, a friend GAVE him a ranch in California. When George Bush left office, a friend GAVE him a home. They both had homes at the time, and Reagan had just picked up two million for a speech in Japan. Bush went to Kuwait where I'm sure they expressed their appreciation of his efforts on their behalf during the Gulf War. Clinton is getting a kind of "booby prize." Well maybe that fits. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) More on Hillary for prez
-Caveat Lector- lfaith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He [Bill Clinton] is expendable. Just like his own collegues that conspicuously and mysteriously disappeared over the course of his presidential term and before during and before his Arkansan governorship... H? "Birds of a feather", they say, "flock together". (???) Wonder how Hillary plans to do him in? Probably more gracefully than he has done others. (This scenario should be interesting to watch unfold). eagle 1 - Original Message - From: lfaith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 5:36 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) More on Hillary for prez -Caveat Lector- In light of Bill being the puppet president for the controlling elite- this posting deserves the chuckle of the day award!!! thanks for making me smile!! this is cute! Hilary the puppet of the puppet. No I think when Bill is out of there, they are kind of done with him. He is out to pasture... He is like the tissue president that he is. He is expendable. -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Szocik Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] (Fwd) More on Hillary for prez -Caveat Lector- God help this country if by some miraculous chain of events Hillary was elected President. she would be a "puppet" for the office while Bill continued on with running the country from behind the scenes. Who the hell do they think they are fooling?! Pay attention America; please do not let this become a reality!! JOHN DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Should we trust the government?
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Sep 99, at 8:25, Prudence L. Kuhn wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/05/1999 3:10:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well to link this together the way it happens for me is this. I can't see how Clinton in or out of the White House or anybody else for that matter being in the White House is going to stop the murder of the innocent the next time our law enforcement agencies of one kind or another decide to "SWAT" whomever they want as a target. I would think that the purpose of finally getting our Government to admit they committed murder at WACO is to stop it from happening again. They've committed this same kind of thing under other presidents. On lesser or greater scales this has happened again and again for some time. I don't like it, and I want it to stop. Whether its a Republicrat or a Democan sitting in the White House will not make the difference I want to see. Prudy We're in agreement here, with the exception that I haven't totally given up hope that somehow we might elect someone with a) a different world view, and/or b) a conscience. Either one of these might result in a prohibition of this kind of murdurous exhibition. A Congress and a Senate with the cajones to exercise proper oversight, blackmail and threats be damned, would help too, but I guess that really is just a pipe dream. Kathleen Thought for the day: It is impossible to distinguish, from a distance, whether the bureaucrats associated with your project are simply sitting on their hands, or frantically trying to cover their asses. If you observe a bureaucrat closely enough to make the distinction above, he will react to your observation by covering his ass. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- Reality is what bites your anus. RC Cathy Laughlan wrote: -Caveat Lector- @ OURANUS IS URANUS IS HEAVEN! URANUS, THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND! Uranus is the ruling planet of the age of Aquarius that we are now entering. As we look around we see that Uranus is true to its reputation, to shake traditional aspects of life cause things to turn upside down. It's right on schedule isn't it? In the Bible Jesus says, " The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." The New Testament was written in Greek and the Greek word for heaven is Ouranos. Uranus. What was actually being said was, " The Kingdom Of Uranus is at hand," and we are witnesses to its changing power. Keep watching. http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/hidden.html#KINGDOM Uhhh, eh hem... Excuse me, but Heaven may be YOUR anus, but it sure isn't mine! Speak for yourself, okay? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Christian Authority to Keep and Bear Arms
-Caveat Lector- Darkness as Light. So Insidious. So Banal. So All Encompassing. Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- "The Empire still lives!" (--PK Dick) -- and all TRUE followers of the "Liberator" (a plain, clear Greek term since watered down to imply a NON-PHYSICAL "savior" or "rescuer") are still being persecuted and/or executed for "sedition" against the Absolutist State ... 2000 years of "spiritual" theatre --maudlin bread and circuses for the slave caste-- and a bogus STATE religion ... God IS dead -- so-called CHRISTIANS, in effect, killed Him ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hi Tech Political Control Exposed by European Parliament
-Caveat Lector- Everyone should study this in detail. EU blowing whistle or telegraphing plans for tyranny? http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research (POB 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220), a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. Quarterly journal, book sales, rare/out-of-print searches, New Paradigms Discussion List, Weekly Up-date Lists E-text Archive of research, intelligence, catalogs, resources. To Discuss Ideas: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://msen.com/~lloyd/ For Ordering Info Free Catalog: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://a-albionic.com/formaddress.html For Discussion List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] text in body: subscribe prj [EMAIL PROTECTED] **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html Every Diet Has Failed! What Can I do? Click Below to "Ask Dr. Kathleen"! http://www.radiantdiet.com/cgi-bin/slim/deliver.cgi?ask-1364 *** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: ADV9-4-99:
-Caveat Lector- Violent crimes against whites by minorities aren't considered "hate crimes" -- go figure! Well, there's been another dragging, this one just last week in Martin, South Dakota. Three Indians from a reservation there severely beat a White man, 21-year-old Brad Young, tied a rope around his neck and to the back of their truck, and dragged the White man until they thought he was dead. Then they cut the rope loose from their truck and drove off, leaving their unconscious and badly injured victim lying in a field, where he was later found. His ears had been torn off, and his face and neck were so badly lacerated that his family couldn't recognize him. The sheriff, noting the viciousness of the attack and that the victim was White and his attackers were Indians, told reporters that it was clearly a "hate crime." The fascinating thing about this particular incident is that it is practically a mirror image of the dragging of a Black by three White men in Jasper, Texas, last year: three White men and a Black victim in the first case; three Indians and a White victim in the second case. In both cases the victims had known and been drinking with their assailants. Both draggings were unplanned and simply grew out of drunken fights. In both cases a beating preceded the dragging. The really interesting difference between the Jasper, Texas, case and the Martin, South Dakota, case is the way in which the controlled news media have responded to them. The Jasper, Texas, case was immediately on television screens around the world and remained on the screens for months. It periodically comes back on the TV screens as the deliberately spaced trials of the three perpetrators come up. Bill Clinton addressed the nation about it. Every Jewish propaganda organization and every Politically Correct columnist and commentator had something to say about it. But unless you're an Internet news junkie or a very careful newspaper reader you haven't even heard about the Martin, South Dakota, case. You certainly will never see it on television or hear Bill Clinton comment on it. In the South Dakota case the media people have been trying to pressure the sheriff into backing down from his initial assertion that the dragging was a "hate crime." Since the victim knew his assailants and was voluntarily drinking with them before they beat and dragged him, it wasn't really a "hate crime," the media people have been saying; it was simply a bit of drunken hooliganism that got out of hand. You know, they could have said exactly the same thing about the Texas case, but they didn't, did they? In Texas their motivation was to exaggerate the atrociousness and malice involved, not to minimize it as they have done in the South Dakota case. And for real media minimalization, consider the dragging murder of Patricia Stansfield by a Black near Streator, Illinois, on August 1 last year. I first reported this dragging to you nearly three months ago, in my broadcast of June 12. The 46-year-old White woman, a registered nurse, was deliberately dragged three miles to her death along a country road. Police found blood spots, body tissue, and bits of her clothing along the road. Sounds a bit like the dragging of James Byrd in Jasper, doesn't it, with all of those little painted circles on the road which we saw a hundred times on television? Patricia Stansfield's Black murderer was 26-year-old Christopher Coleman. But you haven't heard even the slightest peep from the Jewish media about the Stansfield dragging, have you? You might ask, why couldn't the media simply have presented the facts in each case, giving them approximately equal coverage and let the public make up their own minds and form their own opinions about them? Well, we all know the answer to that question, don't we? The controlled media are not interested in presenting facts; they are interested in shaping public opinion, so they present the facts which serve their purpose, but not those facts which don't. We have three atrocious interracial draggings in the past 15 months, one with a Black victim and two with White victims. Even if you didn't already know, you wouldn't have to puzzle very long trying to figure out which one the controlled media would choose to report. You know, even when the facts don't fit, the Jews sometimes will try to use them anyway. The media liars still refer to the two killers at Columbine High School this summer as "neo-Nazis" and "racists." They know that one of the killers, Dylan Klebold, was a Jew, and that both were not racists but rather were anti-racists. They know that Eric Harris had an Internet web site in which he talked about how much he hated White racists. Now, those facts don't fit the image the Jews have been forging in the public mind of people who go on shooting sprees as being White racists or neo-Nazis. But they couldn't really suppress the story of the
Re: [CTRL] [SC] Skeptic News - Saturday #2
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reality is what bites your anus. RC Sorry, I didn't quite put it like that - you've misquoted me. Fun fun fun. soapbox "Bite your ass" is a colorful expression which I use to mean "affects you". Reality is whatever affects you. If it can and does affect you, it's real. If it has no noticeable affect upon you, no matter how 'real' it is to other observers, it's unreal to you, irrelevant. But it may affect you unknowingly; so as always, it's up to the individual to keep their senses tuned-up, their perceptions open, their ass in gear. /soapbox Funny, nobody noted the juxtaposition of Uranus and Ouranus. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PARENTS![read this]Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor, Serzone, Anafranil, etc.
-Caveat Lector- The International Coalition For Drug Awareness http://www.drugawareness.org/ WARNING: Withdrawal can often be more dangerous than continuing on a medication. Please click here before proceeding! For Art Bell Show Listeners: Dr. Tracy to appear on The Art Bell Show, Saturday Night/Sunday Morning, 11pm to 3am PDT, September 4th/5th. Dr. Ann Tracy, the Executive Director of the ICFDA, will again be interviewed on the Art Bell Program Saturday Night/Sunday Morning September 4/5, 1999. If you miss this show, and want to hear it, and if your computer is equipped for audio and has the Real Player software installed, you can access the file on the Art Bell site, or click here for list of participating radio stations. Link to order Dr. Tracy's book and tape. For a listing of other appearances, please check Ann's site at http://members.aol.com/atracyphd/appear.htm. News: For information about the Columbine shootings in Colorado, click here. For the latest information about the Forsyth "Prozac" trial in Hawaii, click here. For stories and releases regarding recent studies or other legal actions, click here. The International Coalition for Drug Awareness Did you know... . . you have a seven times greater chance of dying walking into your doctor's office than you do getting behind the wheel of your car? Prescription drug adverse reactions are the third leading cause of death in America! Every year approximately 200,000 die from prescription drug reactions and another 80,000 die from medical malpractice, while 41,000 die in auto accidents. [DRUG TOPICS, October 23, 1995, pg. 14-16.] What is wrong with our focus on the "drug war" when 200,000 die each year from prescription drugs, yet approximately only 20,000 die as a result of illegal drug use? Billions of dollars go into illegal drug issues in this country every year even though far more are dying from legal drugs. Everyone is asking, "Where is the FDA?" Busy approving another new drug? And how many more will die from that one? Morton Mintz, a former Washington Post reporter, and a Nieman Fellow who won the Raymond Clapper award for reporting the thalidomide tragedy published a book in 1965 entitled, THE THERAPEUTIC NIGHTMARE. His warnings heeded then, and the warnings coming from many other men of great integrity since then, could have spared us the agony we have experienced from the drug tragedies since that time and those we are engulfed in today. He begins with, "Here we shall see that there have been instances when our excessive trust in certain Corporate Consciences has been rewarded with inadequately and even fraudulently tested drugs, with useless drugs and inferior versions of good drugs, with protraction of illness, and with waste of our money. In order that sales may begin and continue, regardless of whether we are healed and spared pain, evidence of serious and even lethal effects has been withheld from the responsible government agency and concealed from the medical profession and the public." (p.xiv) We wish to honor him here (and those who have followed in his footsteps) in their unending efforts to warn us of these serious problems associated with the drugs we have come to learn to blindly trust. This site is to assist us in making sure that trust is no longer a "blind" trust. We must take the responsibility to educate ourselves about what we are putting into our bodies and brains. Some of the most popular drugs on the market today are those that increase serotonin levels like the diet pills that were just pulled from the market. Originally Phen-Fen Redux were thought to be so safe that 18 million people took the drugs. Now we know that they were so dangerous that those who took even one pill have been advised to have their hearts checked. If these drugs could be among the most popular on the market and touted as "the thing" for weight management for a two year period, leaving a backlash of victims that attorney's offices cannot even begin to handle, what other mistakes will we wake up to tomorrow? What are you taking right now that could be just as dangerous or as damaging as these diet pills? What do you know about the medication you are currently taking? What do you know about the dangers of taking the drugs you are taking in combination with one another? Even more frightening to ask is "What does your doctor know or not know about the answers to these questions?" Drugs like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor, Serzone, Anafranil, etc. are some of the biggest money makers ever for the pharmaceutical companies. Yet are you aware that the use of Prozac among children from ages 6-12 went from 41,000 in 1995 to 203,000 in 1996. The number of new prescriptions written increased almost 400% in just one year?!! This is a very powerful mind-altering drug that has not been approved for use in children and yet our children are popping it like candy! Just Prozac's affect upon cortisol levels alone should frighten
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990905a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No inconsistencies were resolved during the production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Spacecraft Looks for Twists in Space-Time. Wrinkles, warps, wobbles in the space-time continuum are slowly escaping from the realm of the imaginary. Long the sole jurisdiction of theoretical physicists SciFi writers, the peculiarities predicted by Einstein's theory of general relativity are now the target of a small group of spacecraft operators in charge of the Rossi X-ray Explorer. Wow. http://www.space.com/science/astronomy/rossi.html : What's your favorite space-time twist? Are your knickers twisted? Are you warped, wrinkled, wobbled? Have you fallen thru a space/time-warp lately?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Flying Triangles Make A Triumphant Return To Israel. The summer of 1999 saw the return of flying triangular formations over Israel and as always, their appearance was greeted with video cameras to solidly document them. With the media uninterested in the phenomena, it is Israel's old guard of skywatchers who made certain that the aerial invaders were captured on film. http://www.sightings.com/ufo4/IsraelUFO-u.htm : What's your favorite spacecraft geometry? Have you captured any images of flying triangles, rectangles, ovals, circles? Sharp or fuzzy images? Why? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ $ Enter the Valley: UFOs, Religious Miracles, Cattle Mutilations, and Other Unexplained Phenomena in the San Luis Valley, by Christopher O'Brien: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312968353/bufosweirdworl08 $ ENTER THE VALLEY is a sequel to THE MYSTERIOUS VALLEY: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0312958838/bufosweirdworldA/ $ Alien Base: The Evidence for Extraterrestrial Colonization of Earth: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0099255022/bufosweirdworl08 $ ALIEN BASE's Timothy Good wrote seminal UFO coverup book ABOVE TOP SECRET: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0688092020/bufosweirdworldA/ : Are you colonized? Do aliens cluster in your neighborhood? Do aliens lower property values? Do you live in a Reptilioid slum? Are they just impossible? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # ARIZONA UFOs - Scott Heckman's UFO Sightings. I have just returned from my camp in the Dragoon Mtns, in SE AZ. I experienced a flyover by the craft that I have been "aquatinted" with for the last sixteen years. They custo- mary flight [sic] enters AZ. airspace from the New Mexico-Arizona border of Hidalgo-Cochise counties. http://caus.org/az094099.htm : Have you seen many UFOs near military areas? Are you surprised? Do aliens cluster around military bases, war-games zones, test ranges? Are they sly?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Computers get creative. (BBC) Which is more creative - a person or a computer? According to a study published in the journal Science, a well- programmed computer may well be more creative than a person - unless the person is a professional designer. Humans are already obsolete, eh? # Also: Biological computer born: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_358000/358822.stm # Best brain boosts artificial life: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_25/250343.stm # I compute therefore I am: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_166000/166370.stm : Have you created anything lately? Has your computer created stuff? Which are better? How can you tell? Are you ready for the scrap-heap yet? When?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Mummification for Faith Profit: Ancient Art Held a Dual Role in Egyptian Society. NEW YORK (Fox) In the 2nd century AD, when the last Greco-Roman mummies were laid out in a subterranean tomb near Egypt's Bahariya Oasis, three millennia of continuous tradition was nearing an end, the end of one of ancient Egypt's great industries: embalming. "It was big business... the best business in ancient Egypt." Like today's computer industry - see http://www.foxnews.com/js_index.sml?content=/news/international/ : Have you mummified anyone lately? Is it a thriving business? Who would you like to mummify? Have you taken it online? Did you register mummies.com yet? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PERSONAL CONTACT EXPERIENCEs (PCEs) - Small Crystal Recovered from Child. In 1992 my daughter called me and said that her son (age 12) woke up and was crying because his back was hurting. She looked at his back and there was a small sliver of crystal stuck in his back. They had nothing that would have that kind of material in the house. She mailed it to me. For the complete PCE, see: http://caus.org/pc090499.htm : Do you have crystal slivers in your body? Do aliens implant them? Where? Have you implanted crystal slivers in anyone's body? Why? Was it fun? How? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Re: [CTRL] cripes
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ric carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 9:40 AM Subject: cripes On Cripes: My wife's from the Midwest. Very nice people there. Very wholesome. Yes, the KKK started in Kansas, is strong in Indiana. They use words like, 'Cripes'. 'For Cripe's sake.' Who would that be, Jesus Cripe's? The son of 'Gosh' of the church of 'Holy Moly'? I'm not making fun of it. You think I wanna burn in 'Heck'? Probably. But I digress. The Midwest seems to foster a strange conspiracy of euphemism, a denaturing of English/ American language, to render it bland and tasteless, like the Midwestern culinary diet. This masks an underlying bitterness, a horrendous subconscious monster that devours the soul. Poor sods. No wonder their kids turn Satanist. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [Fwd: [patrickcrusade] State sponsored terror]
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] State sponsored terror - British Forces Collude in Murder and Terrorism http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/1922/ This new campaign website contains the previously unpublished affidavit of former RUC officer John Oliver Weir. In his statement Weir gives hitherto undisclosed details on how British forces targetted the nationalist community during his 10 years as an RUC officer. The statement contains details of shootings, bombings and the murder of nationalist civilians by serving officers. The publication of the Weir affidavit on the internet is the first time such detailed information on collusion between regular British forces and pro-British paramilitaries has ever reached the public domain. It will shock you. We hope it will also inspire you to support the campaign for an international inquiry into this collusion. Support this campaign! Visit the site for more information. Please forward this mail to friends and colleagues. --- ONElist Sponsor GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: DOUBLE Rewards points, NO annual fee rates as low as 9.9 percent FIXED APR. Apply online today! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/nextcard5 "Click Here/a Visit the P.A.T.R.I.C.K web site: http://www.patrickcrusade.org --- You are subscribed to the PATRICK Crusade mailing list. To subscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] PARENTS!..extreme dangers of America's most popular medications.[Luvox]
-Caveat Lector- Please forward this Post to ALL your contacts, especially concerned Parents. Just one more good reason Parents should remove their children from government schools, and assume more direct responsibility for them. Columbine: Eric Harris was under the influence of the Prozac clone, LUVOX, at the time of the Littleton shooting. A Morbid Welcome to my World. Learning from this tragedy is the greatest gift we can give to those who lost their lives in each of these tragedies. by Dr. Ann Tracy Littleton Colorado blew the door wide open to reveal to the world the pain and suffering I have witnessed on a daily basis since these newer serotonergic antidepressants (Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Effexor, Serzone, etc.) hit the market. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, along with 12 classmates and a teacher lost their lives April 20 in another preventable tragedy. This incident, like so many others before it, could save more lives than were lost IF this time we learn from this tragic and heart breaking incident. If we don't learn this time there will be another and another and another Littleton, Colorado, Springfield, Oregon, Boise, Idaho, etc. Learning from this tragedy is the greatest gift we can give to those who lost their lives in each of these tragedies. As Eric Harris was found to be under the influence of Luvox at the time of the tragedy, this must be a wake up call to the most extreme dangers of America's most popular medications - the new serotonergic antidepressants - Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Effexor and Serzone. Listed in the manufacturer's warning as "frequent" adverse reactions to Luvox are "manic reaction" and "psychotic reaction." Of course psychotic reaction means the drug can induce what laymen would call insanity. Mania is another slightly different and potentially very dangerous form of psychosis or insanity. the danger affects to both the patient and those around him. Symptoms of mania include delusions of grandeur (such as planning to fly a plane into New York City and crash it into the city), intense irritability and rages (as was witnessed in Eric Harris' web site), criminal behavior including aggressive, violent, and hostile behaviors (all too obvious in this case),cravings for alcohol or drugs (Eric was reportedly drinking Jack Daniels.), drastic personality changes swinging from one end of the spectrum to the other, extremely deceitful, manipulative and controlling of all those around them, although easily distracted they are very determined in acting upon their delusional thoughts, and very convincing to those around them of their perception of reality - perhaps because they, themselves, are so convinced of the reality of their delusions, etc. Periods of mania with delusional thoughts can persist for months and years. It is living in a dream world or a fantasy world. And when the brain has been programmed with violent video games, it would not be at all uncommon for those fantasies to become one's "reality" in a manic reaction. This is not a conscious state and is the method by which these drugs are so effective in merging fantasy with reality. When you add to the alarming disclosure about the frequency of mania and psychosis with Luvox, the fact that "cough" is also listed as a "frequent" adverse reaction to this medication the explosive potential is magnified greatly. The reason for the danger in this combination of cough and Luvox use lies in the interaction between popular cough medications containing dextromethophan and the serotonergic antidepressants. The mixing of these two can greatly increase the possibility of a toxic reaction known as serotonin syndrome leading to PCP (Angel Dust) reactions. Would anyone have been surprised at Eric Harris' behavior if they knew he had been using PCP? Of course not! The tragedy lies in our ignorance of the drug interactions and the negligence of the manufacturer to inform patients of this danger and the negligence of doctors and pharmacists in warning young patients and their families of the dangerous potential psychotic reactions to Luvox or any of the other Prozac clones. We witnessed the same type of drug-induced murderous rampage in the Connecticut Lottery shooting just one year ago. Matthew Beck (see below) who worked at the lottery went to work where he shot and killed four fellow workers in a Luvox induced psychotic rage before taking his own life. How many deaths do we need to witness before we say, "Enough is enough?" In investigating 30 cases that have taken place over the last four years of something extremely rare before but becoming much more common - women committing murder and then attempting suicide - we also find an alarming link to these medications. Out of these 30 cases of mothers killing their children or their husbands and then themselves, 22 were on serotonergic medications at the time of the murder. This is an alarmingly high figure! We had all better educate ourselves rapidly.
Re: [CTRL] PARENTS![read this]Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Effexor,Serzone, Anafranil, etc.
-Caveat Lector- Every year approximately 200,000 die from prescription drug reactions and another 80,000 die from medical malpractice, So if 4000 people die every year from accidents with handguns, then this makes doctors and their drugs about 500 times more dangerous than handguns afterall! BG DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OEN 9/5/99
-Caveat Lector- A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Today's Lesson From The Laundreymen by Jeffrey Robinson The so-called "South African method" is a brazen approach concocted by a Johannesburg businessman who beat currency export controls by faking a badly sprained ankle. Booked on a flight to London, he asked the airline to supply a wheelchair to help him get to the gate because he had a cast on his leg. Departure scrutiny in those days was very strict, and on the day of his flight an anonymous call came into South African customs warning them that a man with a cast on his leg was using it to smuggle a large sum of money out of the country. When he wheeled up to the Customs and Immigration checkpoint, he was stopped. Officers opened his baggage, went through it, found nothing, then announced they wanted to search him. He refused. They insisted. He demanded he be permitted to call his attorney. Senior officials were summoned and the argument continued. By the time his lawyer arrived, the man's flight had taken off without him. The man threatened to sue. His lawyer managed to calm him down and explain that the officers were acting well within their rights. Protesting to the very end, the fellow had no choice but to sit there while his cast was sawn off. It was empty. Now the man raised hell. He started calling everyone he knew in government. Red-faced apologies, though plentiful, were inadequate. He ordered his lawyer to file law suits against the government and the airlines for allowing this to happen. He said he not only wanted retribution, w cast plastered over his ankel--and cash packed firmly inside--Customs and Immigration officials personally helped him onto the plane. = Barbecued Children Special Operations Command at Waco We told the Secretary of Defense. We told the Join Chiefs of Staff. WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon's elite Special Operations Command sent observers to the siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Texas more than a month before the final assault on the compound, suggesting that military commandos had a far longer and closer involvement in the disastrous 1993 operation than previously divulged, according to declassified Government documents. The documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act also show for the first time that officials at the highest levels of the Defense Department, including Secretary of Defense Les Aspin and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, were briefed by the Special Operations Command about the events near Waco. The command, which is based at MacDill Air Force Base in Florida, oversees the military's most secretive commando squads, including the Army's Delta Force and the Navy Seals, and the documents suggest that the command was monitoring the situation virtually from the start of the 51-day siege. The command's spokesmen did not return calls for comment on the documents. The exact relationship between the military and law-enforcement agencies in the planning of the raid on April 19, 1993, which ended in the fiery destruction of the compound and the deaths of about 80 people, has long been a mystery. It is expected to be a topic of Congressional hearings this fall into the siege, especially given the new disclosure that possibly incendiary military-issue tear-gas canisters were fired near the compound. Congressional officials say they want to know where the canisters came from, and who gave approval for their use. Clinton Administration officials, aware of the severe legal restrictions on the use of American troops in the United States, have long said that the military's role in the siege was purely advisory to law-enforcement agencies, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. The heavily censored documents do not show that the military took an active part in the siege and F.B.I. officials have long acknowledged that the military assisted the law enforcement agency. Today, John Collingwood, an F.B.I. spokesman said "The Department of Defense played no operational role at Waco." A report issued last month by the General Accounting Office, the accounting arm of Congress, which examined the military's role in Waco, did not contradict the F.B.I. account, but did find that the military had provided about $1 million in equipment, supplies and electronic surveillance gear to the F.B.I. and the A.T.F., which had launched an ill-fated arrest raid on the compound in February 1993. Although Administration officials have previously acknowledged that three soldiers assigned to Delta Force were at the cult compound on the day of the fiery raid as observers, the documents show that the first Special Operations monitors actually went there more than a month earlier, and that their findings were reported to Washington and to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The documents were provided to The
Re: [CTRL] Psychotic American Militarist Dreams of Total World Domination
-Caveat Lector- all u.s. goverment sites, including military ones, contain a ".gov" somewhere in the url. this has not been posted by the u.s. military. == http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/ ^^^ The US military's plans for the taking over of the world and the systems it needs to assure permanent, total dominance and control over us all. And they're posted quite openly. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Gus Delao [EMAIL PROTECTED] By the way, does anybody knows what really NLP is? Is it just another kind of mental control? Or is it more spiritual and truly healing? Thanks, Gustavo. _ I can vouch personally that NLP at least CAN be a powerful healing set of techniques. Like anything, it is a tool that cannot choose how it is used. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Myth of Microsoft Security
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A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/microsof_nsa.htm"The Myth of Microsoft
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The Myth of Microsoft Security
Prologue
Robert Novak Hypes "Microsoft's Powerful Codes"
Buzzwords, by J. Orlin Grabbe
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Buzz Words
by J. Orlin Grabbe
Latest to join the ranks of encryption-nazis, along with en vogue
bashing of Bill Gates, is Robert Novak, a columnist for the Chicago
Sun-Times and regular on CNNs Capital Gang. Writing in a June 28 column
"A high-tech defeat," Novak drags out the tired boogeyman of
"international drug lords" and "drug cartels" to explain why the DEAs
Thomas A. Constantine and the FBIs Louis J. Freeh should be able to
listen to our conversations at their leisure. The fact they cant is all
the fault of Bill Gates ("the worlds richest man," Novak darkly notes)
because "encryption devices sold by his company and used by
international drug lords are so powerful they cannot be deciphered by
law enforcement." Gee, fancy that.
The satire is all the richer once one realizes that Novak may believe
his own moronic bilge. Lets summarize the plot and the cast of bit
players.
First we have Bill Gates, an evil plutocrat who is being taken to task
for not selling shoddy-enough products: his software actually runs on
some computers, and his encryption devices cant be broken by Beavis and
Butthead.
"As Gates knows, no computer is big enough to break Microsofts new
codes," warns Robert Novak, crusading journalist, moral conscience of
the nation, and also secretly-paid Microsoft PR agent whose primary task
is to promote the notion that some of Microsofts encryption products
are actually secure.
Next, we have "career cop" Thomas Constantine, the ring-leader of a gang
of pirates whose main job is to protect the high profit margins
available to approved dealers of illicit drugs by busting the
competition and thus restricting the supply. Constantine has in recent
years graduated to international bank theft as noted in a previous issue
of Liberty ("The Money Laundromat," November 1995).
Then there are the Freehstone Kops, who (headed by a panty-waist in
elevator shoes) are actually scared of real criminals, and so prefer to
content themselves with monitoring the conversations of widows and
orphans, and others they can easily pick on. In recent years, the Kops
have adopted the motto that "if you cant beat em, join em," and
(according to detailed journalistic accounts and court filings) become
heavily involved in protecting the drug trade in locations such as
Montana. However, part of their operation has now fallen apart,
apparently because they werent using Microsofts "powerful" encryption
products.
Now for the plot complication. Are you ready? The evil Drug Lords, who
work hand-in-hand with Bill Gates to provide a paycheck to the Con and
the Kops, have discoveredprepare yourself now, are you ready?LEVEL TWO
ENCRYPTION. Their billions in drug profits had not previously allowed
the Drug Lords to reach this plateau of enlightenment, but now with the
aid of the sinister Bill Gates they have gotten their mojo working.
Crusading moralist Novak explains: "Freeh and Constantine are desperate.
Wiretapping is law enforcement's biggest weapon, authorized by court
order 1,329 times nationwide in 199872 percent for drug cases. No
longer able to infiltrate the narcotics apparatus, the DEA depends on
eavesdropping.
"But intercepted conversations now are interrupted by a steady buzz,
signifying that intelligible conversation is encrypted. What experts
call level-one encryption could be decoded, but the drug lords have
turned to level two.
" And we can't break it, Constantine told me. There's no big computer
in Livermore [Calif.] or in New York City that you can take your staff
to and say, "Take the buzz, and make it into words." It's just that
encryption is ahead of the power of the decrypt. The agents need the
key supplied by the manufacturers."
Closely pursued by a STEADY BUZZ, Con and Kops go in search of the
sacred keys. After many adventures and close calls, the pair of lovable
rogues rescue a sexy blonde, Helga, 19, whose bits were previously held
in bondage to Microsofts powerful codes. She gives them a list of
computer manufacturers: Compaq, Dell, Apple, IBM . . . .
"You left off Microsoft," Con points out suspiciously.
"Microsoft doesnt manufacture computers," Helge explains with a flutter
of her eyelashes. "We need the keys supplied by the manufacturers,
remember?"
Their team is soon joined by Novak, the crusading journalist and Jesus
of juju. He hastily delivers the latest news: ". . . the Senate and
House Commerce committees last week approved bills to end export
controls over encryption systems to which law enforcement and national
security
[CTRL] Eeenglish? We don' need no steenkin Eeenglish.
-Caveat Lector- 9/5/99 Yet another example of tribalism reasserting itself in reaction to forced universalism. This is happening all over the world. While the New World Order is dependent upon establishing a form of Universalism in order to facilitate economics and markets without borders, the people of the world ( non-elites ) are re-establishing their identities. Whether by language, religion, or ethnicity, ordinary people will not give up their tribalism as the rich want them to do. This is the one of the main reasons that the NWO is doomed to fail. Joshua2 = Financial Times - September 2, 1999 EL CENIZO ADOPTS SPANISH By Hillary Durgin in El Cenizo Until last month, El Cenizo was just another poor and dusty community on the Texas shores of the Rio Grande, inhabited mainly by Mexican immigrants or the sons and daughters of immigrants wearied by routine Border Control checks of their proof of citizenship. But El Cenizo has suddenly acquired a significance far beyond its size. In August the town council established Spanish as its sole official language and declared itself a safe haven for illegal immigrants. In doing so, it touched two of the most sensitive nerves in American society today - language and immigration. When the local council next meets to discuss the furore that has rippled across the nation in the wake of these decisions, the representatives will use Spanish only, and when official announcements are relayed to residents, the documents will all be in Spanish. El Cenizo's language ordinance is believed to be the first of its kind in the US. Several southern communities from Florida to California are bilingual or multilingual. But El Cenizo is the first to consign English to second class status. Critics fear the move foreshadows the balkanisation of America. "The major issue is that this country isn't really taking seriously the question of what it means to be an American," says US English, a Washington-based group that advocates the entrenchment of English as the national official language and promotes rapid assimilation of English in US schools. "The reason the American experiment has worked is that the fire under the melting pot is English. Without it a nation of immigrants cannot communicate," it says. Officials in El Cenizo, a district of about 7,800 people, say they have been misunderstood. Flora Barton, a feisty city commissioner who helped champion the new laws, says: "Everybody's gotten it wrong...like we're going to call Washington and say, 'Hey, Como está?'. "If you speak Spanish, it doesn't make you any less American," she said. On the contrary, she argues, the law allows residents, many of whom feel frightened and neglected, to have a sense of belonging to their community. Mrs Barton said the council's measure establishing El Cenizo as a "safe haven" for illegal immigrants simply made it illegal for city employees to turn in undocumented immigrants to the Border Control. The law was adopted, she said, to reassure residents that officials were not behind what townspeople say has become routine bullying by the Border Control. Meanwhile, Texan Border Control officials yesterday commemorated the second anniversary of Operation Rio Grande, a program that has increasingly militarised the border in an attempt to combat the influx of illegal aliens and drug smugglers. Officials in the nearby city of Laredo say the El Cenizo ordinance doesn't affect what they do. They have begun stopping El Cenizo's commuter bus that takes residents to and from Laredo for work. The administration of mayor Rafael Rodriguez, which came to power only last November, has other reforms in the works. A rickety pickup truck that collects garbage for residents will soon be replaced by the city's first real garbage truck. And stretched across one side of the little, one-roomed city hall is a banner that reads "Census 2000" - an early effort by city officials to encourage residents to be counted. Like his neighbours, Mr Rodriguez speaks little English, although he recently became a US citizen. Asked why he wanted to be mayor, he replied, in Spanish: "To help. To communicate." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
Re: [CTRL] [MC] Re: GI Cop/Paramilitary/MC
-Caveat Lector- I don't know if you feel safe devuldging the details of these operations, but I for one would very much like to hear more about these two incidents. What is lacking on all mind control forums, in my estimation are real-life situations which people have witnessed. Putting many of these situations together will give us a survey of data from which to unravel what international crime groups are doing to whom -- possibly why too. I am now convinced that, and I keep saying it to deaf ears it appears, the "drug" scene is NOT a narcotics story -- much. No. It is not. It IS about secretive chemcials -- it is about hard to get chemicals -- but not specifically narcotics. AND it is about hybrids -- part human/part other species -- AND it is about some species which do shape shifting -- yes, yes. It is about the use of a SEND frequency system, with some very interesting high tech devices, to control large segments of the world's populations. And it is about co-opting -- people selling out to cults/quasi-religious groups/Intel units in neighborhoods -- and about these new curmudgeon crime groups -- infiltrating all world communities now. It is about clandestine eugenics rings, and about staged pregnancies and births using outside ovum - etc. All of this I am confident fits into the larger picture of what the paramilitary are handling in neighborhoods. The paramilitary succeed in part, like the CIA, because they target INDIVIDUALS. It is therefore nearly impossible for these crime groups to not succeed. It is one against hundreds. These victims are outnumbered unless they coagulate. Which the Net is affording them some degree of comfort in accomplishing. Later -- Judith In a message dated 9/4/99 10:34:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have specific knowledge of one very high-profile operation dated 1980, and possibly another dated 1997, which appear to me to have had a "Prove how good we are, to get the contract" motive. Lyn Milnes DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Jean Staffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] NLP is a nasty, mind-messing bit of business that began and remains in the very worst hands. Gregory Bateson did the seminal work on the NLP process. Jean -- The premier writers and tutors of NLP have written a multitude of books on the subject. Read it and judge for yourself and know that until you do, all else is hearsay. They are two writers that usually write together. One of their names is Richard Bandler and the other escapes me. A good book to read to understand it is called "Trance-formations." __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What really is NLP?
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: Das GOAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to see some corroboration for these assertions, because the devisers of NLP --Bandler Grinder-- clearly and explicitly created their system as a way of "pinning down" the extraordinary abilitity of one man, Dr Milton Erickson, to "hypnotize." There are dozens of volumes published by the NLP founders detailing their project to do so. == Truly. I have known dozens of practitioners and none of them were of the mind-control typem, many of them being decidedly anti-government. It is quite openly practiced in some places in the United States as a therapy tool. To give an example of an NLP technique [a rather simple one]: consider the fact that every day a multitude of things occurs that has never happened in the world. consider also that in many ways, humanity is simply repeating the same patterns over and over in different ways. one could say that nothing changes and, in a sense, one would be correct. yet in another sense, things are always changing. say you are involved in a debate about the subject [and this is where NLP comes in, being a communication tool]. someone asserts that nothing ever changes and you believe that things are in constant flux. yet you recognize that both stances are true, each from its own standpoint. a typical response to the said person would be something like "yes BUT i see things change every day." in stating your view in this way you invite argument by merely using the word "but." that particular contraction is one of confrontation, one of objection. if you instead answer "yes AND i see things change too," you have stated your viewpoint without using the quite invalidating "but" dagger. yes it is subtle and to some it may seem trivial but in practicing speech in this way, we foster an environment conducive to acceptance of others' opinions while not assuming that one must be right and one must be wrong. in this way, merely being exceptionally conscious of how we speak and respond to people, we foster unity, if only subtly. we don't control another this way, we merely make it clear that we are open to others' opinions yet our own remains unchanged. offering the opportunity to have one's opinion deemed valid, even if not agreed to, in offering the initiative in the endeavor of unity, we encourage a space that can be exceptionally healing. it is quite an earth-shaking event when one realizes that we DO indeed have the tools at our fingertips for getting along, when we realize that an opinion contrary to our own is not even remotely an invalidation of your own. we see here that tolerance leads to peace. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] NSA Embedded in Software? .
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: "Prudence L. Kuhn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So if you're doing anything sneaky, buy Mac. Prudy == in fact, macs have been y2k compliant from the get go. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 990905b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question : Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. : Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning. : No incriminating evidence disappeared during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Asia awaits 9s on calendar. TOKYO (AP) In Japan, nine is bad. Usually. In China, it's good. Most of the time. In Myanmar next week, it could spell trouble. For computer specialists around the world, the string of nines on the calendar next Thursday, 9 Sept 1999, is being watched as a potential Y2K-style bug that could prompt some older programs to shut down automat- ically. But for many Asians, computers are hardly the concern. It's luck - or the potential lack of it. Four Nines Day, 9-9-99, presents a bit of a paradox for the superstitious in Asia. Nine, pronounced "ku" in Japanese, is a homonym with the word for pain and suffering, and is thus a very inauspicious number, especially at hospitals. "Dressed to the nines" is bad: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560990844-9fd : What're your most/least favorable numbers? Are you affected by 8s, 9s, 13s or zeroes? Would you switch calendars to avoid inauspicious dates? To which? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Internet encryption divides America - Civil libertarians and the US Gov't are at odds over encryption. (BBC) you might associate encryption with the German Enigma machine and its decoding at Bletchley Park during WWII, but these days it has become a hot Internet, and even, a civil rights issue. More and more Internet communications are being encrypted, but governments worldwide worry that encryption also gives criminals safe communications. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_43/430384.stm @ Links - US Department of Justice: http://www.usdoj.gov/ @ Federal Bureau of Investigations: http://www.fbi.gov/ @ Centre for Democracy and Technology: http://www.cdt.org/ @ Electronic Privacy Information Centre: http://www.epic.org/ @ International PGP Homepage: http://www.pgpi.org/ @ PGP US: http://www.nai.com/asp_set/products/tns/intro.asp : Are you in a criminal group? Has your encryption been broken yet? Have you penetrated the cops' security? Who has better crypto? Do Reptilioids help?? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Virus threatens Microsoft Word users. NEW YORK (Reuters) - A new computer virus has been found that infects Microsoft Word documents and threatens to wipe out computer hard drives on Dec. 13, but experts agreed the threat has been caught early enough to prevent its wide-scale spread. The "Thurs- day" virus has the potential to destroy information stored on hard disks on computers running Microsoft Corp.'s Word 97 word processing program. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560985462-2b3 # NSA Builds Security Access Into Windows: http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB19990903S0014 # "Microsoft, the NSA, and You": http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa.html # More on NSA Key: A Mysterious Component Roils Microsoft http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/99/09/biztech/articles/04soft.html # Crypto expert: Microsoft products leave door open to NSA http://cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/03/windows.nsa/ # Who Has A Back Door Into Windows? http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/twokeys990903.html : Have you ever trusted MicroSoft? Are you insane? Wanna buy a nice bridge? Wanna test a nice virus? Wanna give up all your secrets? Wanna be violated? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Canada to test-burn US nuke waste. WASHINGTON (AP) Researchers will use a shipment of reactor fuel from New Mexico's Los Alamos lab to test whether Canada's nuclear reactors are suitable to dispose of weapons-grade pluto- nium. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2560989729-1fd : Are you overloaded with radioactives? Where would you like to send them? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ THE SEDONA VORTEX. I asked [the motel worker] if he knew about the vortex activity in Sedona. He said he's lived all of his life at the place where there is supposed to be the most active biggest vortex. I asked him what his experience was from the vortex. He said. Nothing, I have never experi- enced anything. But he said, its good for the tourists. We hear a lot from them about experiences. http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/sedona.html : Have you ever experienced the Vortex? Was it transcendent? Have you ever sold anything to anyone who experienced the Vortex? Is it good for bizness? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # PARANORML NEWS NETWORK (P3N) - When aliens come abducting, ask for warm probe. IF YOU GET abducted by space aliens, you're going to get probed. You might as well face it. That's why they abduct you. Not that you can do anything about getting abducted. If they want to abduct you, they'll abduct you, right? http://caus.org/pn090499.htm : Have
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Child Abuse At Waco.
- SNETNEWS Mailing List PRELIMINARY STATEMENT CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ON WACO Bruce Duncan Perry, M.D., Ph.D. CIVITAS Child Trauma Programs A Partnership of: CIVITAS Initiative, Baylor College of Medicine and Texas Children's Hospital ABUSIVE CHILDREARING PRACTICES AT RANCH APOCALYPSE Destructive characteristics of this setting included undermining traditional parent-child relationships by David Koresh Attachments to parent figures were continually undermined and replaced with inappropriate dependence upon a central figure, David Koresh. Continuous undermining of other relationships, including sibling relationships, husband and wife relationships, and friendships was pervasive. Any attachment judged to be more important to an individual than the attachment to God or David was undermined. By 1992, these children were taught to view David Koresh as their father, and later, these children were taught to consider David as God (see slides). In the context of this evolving theology, Koresh's views became increasingly restrictive, unpredictable and harsh for the children living at Ranch Apocalypse (see Attachment 7). These children had a set of inappropriate and age-inappropriate behaviors and significant gaps in general understanding, reflecting the idiosyncratic teaching practices present in the compound. For example, very young children, including a six year old girl, knew an incredible amount about weapons, while they knew almost nothing about other common age-appropriate concepts. In one example, we had a room with a variety of toys, including a small bolt action toy rifle. Invariably, in the first visit to the room, each child first went over and picked up the rifle. In one interview, a young girl went over, picked up the rifle, pulled the bolt back, looked down the barrel and said with disgust, "This isn't a real gun." It is clear that these children were significantly traumatized by previous harsh and inappropriate disciplinary techniques including severe corporal punishment, extended isolation (overnight), severe food restrictions and separation from primary caretakers. These children were continually exposed to harsh, capricious, and humiliating disciplinary techniques. Children expected to be beaten for events such as spilling milk. Infants were severely spanked for 'misbehaving'. In addition, these children were threatened with death if they revealed aspects of life inside the compound to the 'non-believers'. As is typical when an abusive adult threatens a child, they were told that 'they will not understand our special ways'. These children were convinced that David Koresh would return from the grave and punish them if they betrayed the Davidians by interacting with, or disclosing to, the 'bad guys' (law enforcement, non-believers, 'Babylonians'). Koresh was exploitive and manipulative of these children and exposing them to a variety of inappropriate sexual content -- such as graphically describing intercourse and sexual 'technique' in his hours-long sermons where children were present. Furthermore, the girls were socialized to believe that sex with Koresh, by age 12 (and earlier), was normative, appropriate, and, indeed, desirable -- being part of God's plan as revealed to David. All of the young girls were being prepared to be David's wives and that was a healthy and desired position to be in. One of the older girls expressed distress, now that she had been released from the compound, that she would not be able to be picked by David as one of his brides. Clear and compelling disclosure of sexual abuse of a 10 year old child by David Koresh was obtained during this time. This child had left the compound in the year prior to assault. The nature of the disclosure, the content and detail of the abuse all were very consistent with the content of sexual beliefs which were shared with our team by many of the 21 released children. These children were significantly exploited, manipulated and exposed to a variety of inappropriate experiences and deprived of other normative experiences. These children were very rarely given the opportunity to be independent and when they did make any independent decisions about any aspect of their lives, including things as small as choosing what they would eat, who they would sit next to at dinner or choosing what clothes they would wear, David Koresh would periodically challenge, provoke and demand that they change what they were doing -- for example, he would demand that someone eat only potatoes for the next three days. Because of the lack of opportunity to make independent decisions about even minor aspects of their lives, these children experienced significant abnormalities in areas of functioning which are globally called ego function. This includes things such as sense of self, self-esteem, dependence/independence and abstract thinking. This was illustrated by a poignant series of drawings by one child (see slides). SUMMARY In summary, our work
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Child Abuse At Waco (2)
- SNETNEWS Mailing List
APPENDIX VIII
Issues Relating to Physical, Sexual and Emotional Abuse and Neglect in the
Koreshian Children
Bruce D. Perry, M.D., Ph.D.
Associate Professor and Vice-Chairman for Research, Psychiatry and Behavioral
Sciences
Chief of Psychiatry, Texas Children's Hospital
Director, Post-traumatic Stress Disorders Clinical Research Team, Houston VAMC
Baylor College of Medicine
April 26, 1993
CIVITAS ChildTrauma Programs
A Partnership of:
CIVITAS Initiative,
Baylor College of Medicine
and Texas Children's Hospital
1. Physical Abuse
a. Allegations: Former 'members' of this group have described corporal
punishment of young infants to the point of bleeding. Some ex-members
describe public physical discipline. In addition, previous CPS contacts with
David Koresh indicated that physical discipline ('squeezing or holding them
tight') of infants began at 8 months. We are not aware of reports of
physically assaultive behaviors outside of the context of discipline.
b. Preliminary Findings: During the first two weeks outside the compound,
several of the girls were noted to have circular lesions (approx. 1 inch in
diameter and healing) at the base of their spines/top of their buttocks.
These were initially described by the children as resulting from 'falling
down'. Soon, however, at least one of the girls acknowledged that the lesion
was from being paddled with the 'Helper" by her mother (see Appendix I). No
other physical evidence of potential physical abuse was observed in the 21
children released from the compound.
History was obtained from several of the children that mothers and
occasionally David physically paddled the children that were unable to comply
with the rules of the compound. One of the children most frequently
disciplined by David was among those released. The children were open about
being disciplined with the Helper. There was an expectation that they would
be physically disciplined for minor behavioral or social infractions. History
was obtained which described physical punishment for children unwilling to
participate in staged 'fights'. The context of these fights is not clear,
however, it appears that adults (frequently David) encouraged fighting
between the children as part of their paramilitary training. Children
refusing to fight or fight hard were paddled. It was the opinion of the
treatment group that full disclosure regarding these practices was not made.
One of the parents released from the compound described how 'well the
children acted' even by age 1 because they knew what 'the Helper' was.
Several of the children mentioned dead babies. They made the statement that
dead babies were kept in the freezer until they could be buried (or burned).
There was an ongoing secretive quality to these occasional allusions to
births, dead babies, miscarriages, storage of dead babies in the freezer,
burning bodies, a ceremony with a male baby underwater and other incomplete
and unformed stories. When any of the children mentioned theses subjects,
there was some group monitoring, some censoring and avoidance of disclosing
any more information. The relationship of these issues to potential physical
abuse is unclear at this point.
Behavioral observation of the children in the first few weeks suggested that
these children had come from an environment which employed severe physical
punishment for behavioral control. Initially, the children expected to be hit
when they did things as minor as spilling milk. Later, without the external
threat to force compliance, these children began to have difficulties with
behavioral acting out and compliance with directives. It became apparent that
the initial observations of these children being 'well behaved' was not a
manifestation of internalized ideas, cognitions or motivations regarding
interactions with others but was motivated by fear of punishment.
c. Conclusions: Independent of external reports regarding excessive physical
punishment, our team found some physical evidence, significant historical
reporting and clear behavioral and emotional functioning consistent with an
excessive style of corporal punishment. This alone, however, does not
necessarily comprise evidence of physical abuse required for state
intervention beyond guidance regarding more appropriate styles of discipline.
2. Sexual Abuse
a. Allegations: The press and ex-members of this group have described that
David Koresh had multiple 'wives'. This list of wives includes girls from age
12-16. All of the sexual abuse allegations we are aware of involve David
Koresh and the girls living in the compound. We are unaware of any
allegations regarding sexual activities with the boys in this group. We are
unaware of any allegations of other adults participating in sexual activities
with the children except as knowing that this occurred with children and
David.
b. Preliminary Findings: No physical evidence of sexual abuse was observed in
these children. Indeed, the
[CTRL] 9:..part of a CIA mind control experiment?
-Caveat Lector- Interesting background story. Not sure of accuracy of all details. --dcw PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE Clive Prince and Lynn Picknett wonder if the CIA are behind the New Age and Alternative. About The Nine, Puharich, Geller, Hurtak, Einhorn, Hoagland, the UN, Al Gore... Also mentions the Russians and Gorbachev Foundation ©John Brown Publishing / Fortean Times 99 http://www.forteantimes.com/artic/126/nine.html PLANET NINE FROM OUTER SPACE One New Age channelling cult, above all the rest, has had a huge - very disturbing influence on hundreds of thousands of devotees worldwide. Known as 'The Nine', its disciples include cutting edge scientists, multi-millionaire industrialists and leading politicians. This exclusive extract based on The Startgate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince looks at the sinister origins of The Nine I am the beginning. I am the end. I am the emissary. But the original time I was on the Planet Earth was 34,000 of your years ago. I am the balance. And when I say "I" - I mean because I am an emissary for The Nine. It is not I , but it is the group We are nine principles of the Universe, yet together we are one. The declaration above is typical of the channelled pronouncements of the Council of Nine or just The Nine. They contain all the usual New Age ingredients of grandiose statements, shaky grammar and unprovable predictions. But unlike all the other channelling cults, that of The Nine has serious clout. Perhaps the reason for this is that they claim to be the Ennead, or the nine major gods of ancient Egypt (see panel). Or could there be another reason, one that owes more to The X-Files than the Pyramid Texts? Although The Nine may appear to be quintessentially a modern phenomenon, our research uncovered its truly astonishing pedigree. In fact, the story begins nearly 50 years ago, in a private research laboratory in Glen Cove, Maine, called the Round Table Foundation, run by a medical doctor named Andrija Puharich (also known as Henry K Puharich).Set up in 1948 to research the paranormal, among the noted psychics studied at the Foundation were the famous Irish medium Eileen Garrett and the Dutch clairvoyant Peter Hurkos (Pieter van de Hirk). Prominent members included the influential philosopher and inventor Arthur M Young and the socialite Alice Bouverie (née Astor). In December 1952, Puharich brought into his laboratory an Indian mystic named Dr D G Vinod, who began to channel The Nine or the Nine Principles. In the months before Vinod returned to India, a group met regularly to hear The Nines channelled wisdom. Never known for their modesty, The Nine proclaimed themselves to be God, stating "God is nobody else than we together, the Nine Principles of God." Three years later, there appeared to be independent confirmation of their existence. In Mexico, Puharich and Young met Charles and Lillian Laughead, former Christian missionaries who were by then prominent in the burgeoning UFO contactee movement. (For a description of their involvement in the Dorothy Martin circle, see Jerome Clarks When Prophecy Failed in FT117.) Back in the States a few weeks later, Puharich received a letter from the Laugheads containing messages received by their groups channeller. This message also claimed to come from the Nine Principles, even amazingly including references to the earlier communications transmitted through Dr Vinod. Could The Nine possibly be for real? Perhaps the answer is embedded in the career of Puharich himself. After disbanding the Round Table Foundation in 1958, he worked for 10 years as an inventor of medical devices and achieved international recognition as a parapsychologist, most famously studying the Brazilian psychic surgeon, Arigo (José Pedro de Freitas). But all that was to pale into insignificance because, in 1971, Puharich discovered Uri Geller. At their first meetings in Tel Aviv in 1971, Puharich hypnotised Geller in an attempt to find out where his abilities came from. As a result, the young Israeli started to channel Spectra an entity which claimed to be a conscious super-computer aboard a spaceship. However, Puharich suggested to him that there might be a connection with the Nine Principles, and Spectra readily agreed that there was. The Nine claimed that they had programmed Geller with his powers as a young child. Through Geller, The Nine alerted Puharich to his lifes mission, which was to use Gellers talents to alert the world to an imminent mass landing of spaceships that would bring representatives of The Nine. However, Geller by now an international psychic superstar bowed out in 1973 and has resolutely turned his back on The Nine ever since. Puharich had to find other channels. He joined up with aristocratic former racing driver Sir John Whitmore and Florida-based psychic and healer Phyllis Schlemmer. They
Re: [CTRL] Supreme Allied Commander Europe - General WESLEY K.CLARK
-Caveat Lector- Das GOAT wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-01 10:15:27 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: General Clark is a 1966 graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York, where he graduated first in his class. He holds a degree in Philosophy, Politics and Economics from Oxford University where he studied as a Rhodes Scholar (August 1966-August 1968). Rhodes Scholar, eh? ARGH! GET THEM OFF ME. THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. AAARRRGH! jOSHUA2 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Slate On Pat Buchanan
-Caveat Lector- Who's afraid of Pat Buchanan? His spineless Republican rivals and the political punditocracy, that's who. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Jake Tapper Sept. 4, 1999 | Pat Buchanan is back in the presidential campaign saddle again, leaving a trail of racist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic rhetorical dung behind him wherever he goes. But unlike in his two previous runs, this time around virtually no one seems willing to call him on it. Not the press, not the commentators and, most significantly, not his fellow Republicans. This week, as rumors intensify that Buchanan may bolt for the Reform Party, thereby becoming a significant factor in the presidential race, the silence has become deafening. "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice," says conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer, one of the few members of the news media willing to speak out about Buchanan's bigotry. "He tries to be subtle, the comments are not direct appeals to prejudice, which is one of the reasons he gets away with it." But the subtle appeal, Krauthammer argues, "is very much heard by his audience." Subtle, but not too subtle. You knew who Buchanan was talking about, for example, during the week of the Iowa straw poll when he blamed the farm crisis on "New York bankers" and "the money boys up in New York." He didn't say "money-grubbing kikes," but it was there, lurking in the subtext. Or, in a radio interview, when Buchanan justified his anti-immigration policies by insinuating that the character of Mexicans was generally criminal -- "60,000 of them are in our prisons." The "railroad killer" is the kind of person we're going to have more of unless we build up the border patrol, he said. He didn't say "dangerous wetback drifters." He didn't have to. And again, during his speech at the straw poll, he promised that, if he were elected, he'd open up China for U.S. trade -- or else China will have sold its "last pair of chopsticks in any mall in the United States of America." He didn't say "yellow menace" or "Chinks" or "they're not like us" -- not in so many words, anyway -- but he seemed dangerously close to the precipice of actually uttering such words. Buchanan has a documented history of making these kinds of incendiary comments. In 1992, the Anti-Defamation League charged that Buchanan had shown "a disregard or hostility toward those not like him and a consequent displeasure with the exercise of freedom by these others ... [a] displeasure ... expressed in a 30-year record of intolerance unmatched by any other mainstream political figure." Even Richard Nixon found the views of his former speech writer, Buchanan, too extreme on the segregation issue. According to a John Ehrlichman memo referenced in Nicholas Lemann's "The Promised Land," Nixon characterized Buchanan's views as "segregation forever." After Nixon was reelected, Buchanan warned his boss not to "fritter away his present high support in the nation for an ill-advised governmental effort to forcibly integrate races." This mind-set continued as Buchanan segued from working in communications for Nixon and Reagan to bloviating as a columnist and a CNN windbag. In 1990, Buchanan spewed out another hate-filled sound bite: "With 80,000 dead of AIDS, 3,000 more buried each month, our promiscuous homosexuals appear literally hell-bent on Satanism and suicide." Many in the media, when asked by Salon News why they aren't covering Buchanan's slightly more veiled bigotry in 1999, suggest that he's only a marginal political figure. "I had to think twice before I wrote about him," Krauthammer explained. "He's simply not a player. It's like attacking Lamar Alexander." Maybe. But Buchanan kicked Alexander's butt in the Iowa straw poll. And while Alexander has since withdrawn from the race, Buchanan's name is increasingly bandied about as a possible Reform Party candidate. In fact, the entire debate on CNN's "Crossfire" last Wednesday night focused on whether Buchanan would go third party. Buchanan's bigotry wasn't mentioned once during the half-hour show. The Wall Street Journal's conservative columnist Paul Gigot devoted his space Friday to a discussion of how a Perot/Buchanan deal could deny the White House to the GOP next year, again without so much as mentioning "Pitchfork Pat's" racism. "I don't have unlimited space," Gigot said in an interview with Salon News, explaining why he didn't mention Buchanan's bigotry in his column. "But my guess is that if Buchanan does become a third-party candidate, or if he does well in the primaries, the press is going to cheer him on. Members of the press like a contest. and they like the idea that he's going to stick it to Bush." Nonetheless, Gigot says, if Buchanan "becomes a player, I assume all those things would come back." (Neither Pat Buchanan nor his campaign returned phone calls for comment for this story.) There is plenty of reason to believe that Buchanan may not be as marginal a figure
Re: [CTRL] Slate On Pat Buchanan
-Caveat Lector- Actually, it's from Salon...oops! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Eeenglish? We don' need no steenkin Eeenglish.
-Caveat Lector- In the beginning there was the school. Then came the herd, quickly followed by the pack. From the pack came the tribe. There is no usurping it as you have said. The strongest tribes are the ones that hunt the best. Nurev Ind Research wrote: -Caveat Lector- 9/5/99 Yet another example of tribalism reasserting itself in reaction to forced universalism. This is happening all over the world. While the New World Order is dependent upon establishing a form of Universalism in order to facilitate economics and markets without borders, the people of the world ( non-elites ) are re-establishing their identities. Whether by language, religion, or ethnicity, ordinary people will not give up their tribalism as the rich want them to do. This is the one of the main reasons that the NWO is doomed to fail. Joshua2 = Financial Times - September 2, 1999 EL CENIZO ADOPTS SPANISH By Hillary Durgin in El Cenizo Until last month, El Cenizo was just another poor and dusty community on the Texas shores of the Rio Grande, inhabited mainly by Mexican immigrants or the sons and daughters of immigrants wearied by routine Border Control checks of their proof of citizenship. But El Cenizo has suddenly acquired a significance far beyond its size. In August the town council established Spanish as its sole official language and declared itself a safe haven for illegal immigrants. In doing so, it touched two of the most sensitive nerves in American society today - language and immigration. When the local council next meets to discuss the furore that has rippled across the nation in the wake of these decisions, the representatives will use Spanish only, and when official announcements are relayed to residents, the documents will all be in Spanish. El Cenizo's language ordinance is believed to be the first of its kind in the US. Several southern communities from Florida to California are bilingual or multilingual. But El Cenizo is the first to consign English to second class status. Critics fear the move foreshadows the balkanisation of America. "The major issue is that this country isn't really taking seriously the question of what it means to be an American," says US English, a Washington-based group that advocates the entrenchment of English as the national official language and promotes rapid assimilation of English in US schools. "The reason the American experiment has worked is that the fire under the melting pot is English. Without it a nation of immigrants cannot communicate," it says. Officials in El Cenizo, a district of about 7,800 people, say they have been misunderstood. Flora Barton, a feisty city commissioner who helped champion the new laws, says: "Everybody's gotten it wrong...like we're going to call Washington and say, 'Hey, Como está?'. "If you speak Spanish, it doesn't make you any less American," she said. On the contrary, she argues, the law allows residents, many of whom feel frightened and neglected, to have a sense of belonging to their community. Mrs Barton said the council's measure establishing El Cenizo as a "safe haven" for illegal immigrants simply made it illegal for city employees to turn in undocumented immigrants to the Border Control. The law was adopted, she said, to reassure residents that officials were not behind what townspeople say has become routine bullying by the Border Control. Meanwhile, Texan Border Control officials yesterday commemorated the second anniversary of Operation Rio Grande, a program that has increasingly militarised the border in an attempt to combat the influx of illegal aliens and drug smugglers. Officials in the nearby city of Laredo say the El Cenizo ordinance doesn't affect what they do. They have begun stopping El Cenizo's commuter bus that takes residents to and from Laredo for work. The administration of mayor Rafael Rodriguez, which came to power only last November, has other reforms in the works. A rickety pickup truck that collects garbage for residents will soon be replaced by the city's first real garbage truck. And stretched across one side of the little, one-roomed city hall is a banner that reads "Census 2000" - an early effort by city officials to encourage residents to be counted. Like his neighbours, Mr Rodriguez speaks little English, although he recently became a US citizen. Asked why he wanted to be mayor, he replied, in Spanish: "To help. To communicate." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being
Re: [CTRL] Truth From Feds Is Hard to Find [Waco]
-Caveat Lector- Its why they classify certain things for shorter periods of time, like Nixon did a lot of...classified for 25 years etc, then, if the public is still aware after all the coercion to dumbfound it, just destroy the evidence, as happened with his 4000 hours of tapes right before they were to be declassified...a blatant admission of guilt on the part of the Foreign Federal Reserve, but try and prove anythingyeah. "Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote: -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/05/1999 3:10:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Cover-Up Game is actually a stall tactic. If you can delay an investigation for 10-50 years, then drag it through panels, studies, commissions, and courts for another quartr of a century, all the leading players will be either retired, doddering, or dead--and thus have attained their objective. The deed is done and the perpetrators get off scott free. Furthermore, all those who were affected or who cared passionately about the matter will also be dead, retired, or past caring and the general public of that future time will only take note of an interesting historical curiosity. That's modern justice for ya. I wish this wasn't true, but it right on the button. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Gore's Beary Hug
-Caveat Lector- Someone been bogarting the Teflon ? From www.insightmag.com/articles/story1.html Picture Vol. 15, No. 36 -- September 27, 1999 Published Date September 3, 1999, in Washington, D.C. www.insightmag.com Picture: buttonbar2.gifPicturePicturePicturePicturePicture Gore's Embrace By J. Michael Waller Money-laundering charges have raised questions about the vice president's warm relationship with Russian President Boris Yeltsin's corrupt, inept administration. Picture: Vice President Al Gore is in the doghouse over his no-holds-barred support for Russian President Boris Yeltsin, and it isn't just his Republican critics who are pointing the fingers. One of the Democrats' shining stars, former New Jersey senator Bill Bradley, who is challenging Gore for the presidential nomination, blasted the administration's Russia policy after reports that Russian gangsters, possibly in league with top Russian officials, laundered billions of dollars of U.S.-backed loans through New York banks. . . . . "Our assistance and lending policies," said Bradley, "have done very little to further our strategic goal, the needs of the Russian people or the cause of Russian reform. Billions of dollars have been promised to Russians, but far too much money has been siphoned off by untrustworthy Russian 'capitalists.'" It was an implicit swipe at Gore, who was one of the main champions of the taxpayer-subsidized loans to the Russian Central Bank believed to have been laundered through the Bank of New York, which happens to be in the state that first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton wants to represent in the Senate. . . . . No one is rushing to Gore's defense. With most of official Washington out of town for the Labor Day holiday, few were available for comment. But a spokesman for retiring New York Democratic Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the influential foreign-policy voice whose seat Hillary Clinton hopes to take next year, tells Insight, "He's following the issue but we have not made any statement." The Democratic Leadership Council, which President Clinton headed when he was governor of Arkansas, said it had no one qualified to comment. And a spokeswoman for Mrs. Clinton, when asked for comment, said, "Ugh. I don't know about that one." . . . . Painting Gore further into the corner are revelations from the U.S. intelligence community that while the vice president was pushing for more cash to Russia, he was rejecting CIA reports that his Russian interlocutors were crooked or involved with organized crime. . . . . "Though no one has charged that Gore knew of the financial diversions," reported the Washington Post, "the still emerging money-laundering scandal has tendrils that could run close to the vice president." Newsweek opined, "It may be Al Gore who pays for the sins of the Russian elite." In a Washington Post op-ed, David Ignatius asked, "What did the vice president know about the looting of Russia by organized crime, and why didn't he do more to stop it?" . . . . Gore finds himself in the hot seat because of his unique relationship with certain Russian leaders alleged to have participated in some of the looting. Unlike any vice president in U.S. history, he has taken a lead strategic foreign-policy role. The first Clinton administration was just three months old in April 1993 when, in partnership with then-Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, Gore headed the U.S.-Russian Commission on Economic and Technological Cooperation, popularly known as the Gore-Chernomyrdin commission. . . . . The commission was designed to work on a range of energy, industrial, technological and economic issues and to cut through bureaucracy. Supporters say that in the course of the often rocky U.S.-Russian relationship, the commission provided an even keel for conducting bilateral relations on a daily basis. Critics argue that it was a funnel for U.S. cash and technology into Russia's corrupt bureaucracy and banking sectors. . . . . Gore won bipartisan accolades for his commission work, gaining himself statesmanlike status. But Chernomyrdin, ousted last year, lost his luster amid reports he had privatized a nine-figure portion of Gazprom, the Russian natural-gas monopoly he once headed, to himself. With the latest reports that the U.S.-backed International Monetary Fund, or IMF, loans which Gore helped engineer to prop up Yeltsin may have been diverted and laundered through the Bank of New York, Gore's relationship with Chernomyrdin suddenly threatened his undoing as a world statesman. . . . . Surveying the ruins of the administration's Russia policy that in the end failed to foster permanent pro-Western, free-market reforms, the New York Times Magazine reported, "When this checkered record is eventually held up to the light
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] Excerpts of The Wilcher Report Part One
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = ==RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY == http://www.rumormillnews.com = Dateline: 09.05.99 Excerpts of The Wilcher Report The Truth About Waco Part One of Two Parts Rumor Mill News was started in June of 1996 by Gunther and Rayelan Russbacher and several of Gunther's colleagues. Gunther and two of his best friends were the men who gave Paul Wilcher the information that is contained in the Wilcher Report Paul Wilcher was a lawyer and investigator who had met Gunther and Rayelan shortly after Gunther had gone public that he was the October Surprise Pilot. This revelation on Gunther's part, earned him a 21 year prison sentence. Paul Wilcher went from Washington D.C. to Jefferson City, Missouri to help Russbacher prove that he was a CIA deep cover operative. If this could be proved, Missouri would have to release him from prison. Wilcher stayed over three months interviewing and debriefing Russbacher. Many documents and tapes were produced from these meetings with Russbacher. In addition to learning about the October Surprise scandal, Wilcher learned about the related pattern of crimes and coverups that have been committed by various branches of the United States government. Wilcher was privy to current inside information because Russbacher, even though in prison, received daily CIA briefings. The following information was passed to Paul Wilcher via telephone by Gunther Russbacher and others. Wilcher recorded the conversations and wrote a letter to Janet Reno that was over 100 pages long. Gunther Russbacher told his wife, Rayelan and author, Rodney Stich, that the complete Wilcher letter was 105 pages. The last four pages are missing. * * * * * From the Wilcher Report Starting on Page 29 #16) Mind Control Memory Blocks to Ease the Consciences of the CIA's PROFESSIONAL Killers: Thus far, we have been discussing mind control and memory blocks in the context of the CIA's "Manchurian-Candidate-type robot assassins - those low-level individuals -- like Sirhan Sirhan, David Hinckley, Mark David Chapman (who assassinated the Beatles' lead singer/song writer John Lennon), and the six (6) Black men murdered in Pershing Park -- as discussed starting on Page 22 above -- persons who are programmed by the Agency to be used only once and then "thrown away" and discarded -- i.e., persons who are destined either to be killed or imprisoned for the rest of their lives, once they have performed their pre-ordained secret mission. In other words, these low-level individuals are highly expendable -- particularly when getting rid of them will 'preserve the "plausible deniability" that the Agency had anything to' do with their training, conduct, or activities. In the context of these low-level individuals, the mind control programming we have been discussing is used not only to condition the desired robotic response to a pre-ordained secret signal, but also to prevent the subject from remembering anything about the conditioning and programming experience, so that he is virtually helpless to counteract or overcome it -- without many years of deep hypnosis and therapy -- as in the case of Candy Jones, discussed on pages 20 and 21 above. There is, however, a totally different category of covert operatives employed by the CIA -- the real PROFESSIONAL killers -- who are used for multiple high- level, top secret missions, over an entire life time. These top-level "black" operatives are generally men of extraordinary intelligence, education, talent, training, and experience, and it is into their hands that most of the real 'dirty work" of the Agency -- including top-level assassinationsis entrusted. For example, the Agency will use a low-level programed robot like a Sirhan Sirhan or a David Hinckley -- to be the "patsy" for a top-level assassination, or assassination attempt (like the murder and attempted murder of Senator Robert Kennedy and President Reagan, respectively). But they rarely entrust the task of actually pulling the trigger in such a high-profile case to such a low- level cutout. Instead, the real work in such top-level assassinations is carried out only by the Agency's true PROFESSIONAL killers -- persons who are NOT used just once and then discarded, but who, instead, are used over and over again, year in and year out, for nearly all of the Agency's most secret and sensitive dirty work. "Wet" Ops: Such dirty work is generally referred to, among "black" (covert) operatives within the Agency, as "wet" operations -- operations where one or more persons are to be killed, where human blood (which is wet) is to be--spilled. DEBRIEFINGS AFTER CIA "WET" OPERATIONS The normal procedure is that after each "BLACK" or
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] Wilcher Report Excerpts Part Two
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Excerpts of Wilcher Report: Part Two There is also a part Three... as Part Two was too big to fit (Wilcher Report cont.) although I am confident that you (Janet Reno) will learn what it would have been when the 16 covert operatives discussed below finally come forward to testify. But apparently, one of the factors which strongly influenced the CIA to initiate the original BATF raid on February 28th, in the first place, was that Koresh and his 6 fellow "sleepers" were said to be resisting the attempts by their handlers to prepare them for that secret mission. (RMNews Wilcher means that the "sleepers" had refused to be picked up by government agents and taken to be reprogrammed. Members of the Davidian church did not trust the government, therefore they resisted attempts to be taken from the compound by men who appeared to be government agents.) (Wilcher Report cont.) Therefore, one of the Principal reasons for the initial February 28th raid was to chasten Koresh and his fellow "sleepers" -- to frighten them , and to whip them into shape . (RMNews has been given conflicting information as to why the BATF got involved. Our information came from three of the same sources that gave the original information to Wilcher. According to our sources, the BATF had no idea what was really going on at the Davidian compound. The BATF was carrying out a raid similar to the raid on Randy Weaver's family at Ruby Ridge. (The BATF was given information that Koresh was dealing in illegal weapons. They were also told Koresh and his followers were a Christian Doomsday cult who were preparing to use the weapons to commit terrorist acts. The BATF had no idea that a chemical device was being constructed in the underground bunker or that the device could wipe out up to 350,000 people. (The BATF was told that Koresh and his followers had most of their weapons stored in a nearby hanger. The arms and ammunition was being readied for transport by Buffalo Airlines to drug dealers in South America. RMNews does not know if this information, which was given to BATF agents, was accurate. What is known, is the BATF did not expect the members at the compound to be as fully and powerfully armed as they were.) (Wilcher Report cont.) This is apparently why the BATF did not try to kidnap Koresh while he was jogging along the county roads near the compound, and also why it did NOT postpone or call off the raid even after it knew, to an absolute certainty, that the supposed element of surprise had been taken away, since Koresh and his followers had been tipped off in advance that the raid was about to occur. (RMNews Paul was almost correct in what he stated. The BATF DID want to "send a message" to Koresh, his followers, and Christian Patriots nationwide. The message that was being sent was the same message being sent at Ruby Ridge, i.e. that patriots and their families will be horribly murdered if they continue to resist the New World Order. Many people never knew that while the siege was taking place at Ruby Ridge, a government unit tried to drop flammable liquid on the Weaver's cabin and burn them alive... just like what happened at Waco. The only thing that stopped them was the reporters and the friends and family of the Weavers who were close enough to see what was going on. (According to CIA operative Gunther Russbacher, there was another message being sent. Russbacher once stated that Randy Weaver was also a programmed "sleeper". Russbacher indicated that Vickie Weaver had somehow "deactivated" Randy's programming. Russbacher seemed to imply that the attack on Ruby Ridge was intended to send a message not only to the Patriot community, but to all "sleepers" from the special forces community. Some of these "sleepers" realized they had been programed, and were trying to find the "sleeper" program and deactivate it. Russbacher said this was happening in some of the men who had been programmed during the Viet Nam War. (In "Operation Open Eyes" an article written by Rayelan Russbacher from notes given to her by her husband, Gunther, it is detailed how mind controlled Manchurian Candidates are created. The article discusses the fact that all Special Forces operatives have been subjected to the same three levels of programing that "sleepers" go through. "Operation Open Eyes" can be found on Jeff Rense's Sightings web page. www.sightings.com Or it can be easily downloaded from the Ru Mills One List archives. You have to join Ru Mills One List Community to be able to download the article. www.onelist.com ) (Wilcher Report cont.) Thus, the purpose of the raid was NOT to surprise Koresh, or to take him peacefully. The purpose was to be as heavy handed, and as unsubtle, as possible (RMNews According to Russbacher, this is true) so that Koresh and his fellow "sleepers" could not possibly miss the message: "Either shape up and get back into line, or we will 'take you out' -- i.e., "WE WILL KILL
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] WILCHER REPORT EXCERPT PART THREE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WILCHER REPORT EXCERPT Part Three HOW THE FIRES WERE STARTED #18) The remaining task for this "wet" team -- after the multiple murders, described above, had been carried out -- while they were still inside, was to place 3 or 4 canisters of "Willie Peter" (White phosphorus) in strategic locations throughout the compound in order to start the fires. These canisters were all equipped with delayed timing devices, all set to go off simultaneously -- apparently at or shortly before 11:45 AM, since that's when the fires were actually sighted by outside observers on the scene. White phosphorus is one of the most fearsome incendiary device imaginable, and is therefore a favorite of CIA's "wet" teams, ignites instantly, immediately burns with white hot intensity, consumes, beyond all recognition, everything in its path -- thereby destroying all possible forensic evidence -- and covering, as well as one can possibly imagine, the trail of assassins (like this particular "wet" team) who want to try to claim later that their actual mass murder was merely a "mass suicide" or a "tragic accident." CIA "wet" teams have also been known to corner their intended targets into a closed quarter, and then throw "Willie Peter" in their midst, so that these victims are instantly immolated right before the team's eyes. The fire which "Willie Peter" produces is so intense, and the combustion so complete, that victims -- as was the case here in Waco -- can only be identified by their dental records. But here, because the team itself was inside the closed quarters they had to use delayed timing devices on the "Willie Peter" canisters -- to give themselves time to make their own exit before the entire compound was consumed in the monumental conflagration all watched in horror on television. #19) Notice that this explanation of how the fires started comports with the observations on the scene -- with what the television cameras ground level recorded, and with what the military helicopters and their infrared cameras overhead observed -- i.e., that 3 or 4 fires started simultaneously at different places in the compound. And then these separate fires spread rapidly (because of the wood construction, the straw which was everywhere, the high winds, and the white hot "Willie Peter" incendiary devices which had started these separate blazes in the first place), until they united into cohesive whole, involving the entire compound, which became far more destructive than the sum of these separate smaller fires, until it ultimately became a massive conflagration which consumed everything in sight. One possible contrary explanation, which has been offered by, commentators and "tragic accident" theory advocates, is that the tear gas sprayed into, the compound by the tanks [ignoring the fact that what was injected was NOT just tear gas, but a tear gas/nerve gas combination] was itself a combustible substance, that one of the tanks, in punching holes in the exterior walls, had accidentally knocked over a kerosine lantern or container, and that the kerosine had then ignited the tear gas, which then resulted in the conflagration. This "tragic accident theory, however, simply does NOT square with the known facts, preserved on video tape, because the compound did NOT explode into a massive fire ball all at once (as would have been the case if the tear gas itself had been combustible, and had been ignited by a torch, like lighted kerosine). #20) The other point to be made here is that, while the "wet" team did kill many of those inside the compound prior to setting the fires (by means of the"Willie Peter" canisters on delayed timing devices, discussed above), they apparently did NOT murder (at least, directly) ALL of the 86 men, women, and children who ultimately died in the tragedy -- meaning that many of those who died were left paralyzed by the nerve gas, unable to get up or free themselves from this disaster in progress, and were thus consigned to being consumed alive in the giant conflagration brought on by the white phosphorus. (RMNews We have been told that the reason the men who made up the Delta Force Group came forward and told their stories to Gunther Russbacher, who then told the story to Wilcher, was because they did not know that the people were immobilized with the nerve gas. They believed the women and children could escape once the fire started.) (Wilcher Report Cont.) And those consigned to this horrible fiery fate -- being burned alive -- apparently included men, women, and children. NOTE WELL #21) The bottom line here is that 86 men, women, and children died - i.e., they were murdered in the Branch Davidian compound on Monday, April 19th, 1993 ALL at the hands of the 4 members of this CIA "wet" team, operating under the cover of the Delta Force. #22)The bottom line is also that high ranking officials in our government -- though NOT yourself, Attorney General Reno, (RMNews true), and NOT
[CTRL] Fw: Should Christians Abandon the Government Schools?
-Caveat Lector- URGENT * URGENT * URGENT * URGENT * URGENT Should Christians Abandon the Government Schools? Rev. "Curt" Tomlin, President The Christian Alert Network (TCAN) Inc. 5 Sept 1999 Does the evolving government school system provide an acceptable (1) spiritual, (2) psychological, (3) social, (4) academic and (5) physical environment for our children? To answer that question logically, each of the five "areas of influence" (AOI) noted above, must be examined in depth and must be examined in light of known, fixed and proven standards. In order for a final conclusion within any one, or combination of two or more of the five AOIs to be valid, meaningful, and useful, the comparative analysis must be based on known, fixed, and proven standards. Any conclusion not based on known, fixed and proven standards, has no value and is therefore absolutely worthless and without question extremely misleading. Often the "misleading" aspect on the part of the government has, without question, proven to be deliberately intentional. The influences within each of the five AOI, define and determine all aspects of the child's life. For that reason these areas become extremely important to most parents considering whether to abandon the government schools in favor of private school or home school. Recognizing the importance of the five areas of influence, we at The Christian Alert Network, have chosen the oldest, the most durable, and the most proven standard known to mankind.. The Holy Scriptures, as our standard of choice upon which to base our comparative analysis of the five areas of influence. The results of our comparative analysis will provide all parents with the information necessary upon which to base their decision to abandon the government school system in favor of private Christian school or home school for their children. This brief introduction will be followed by a series of articles addressing, in turn and in detail, each of the five areas of influence (AOI) noted above. Each of the follow-up articles will contain PROOF that the federal government is deliberately targeting "all" American children, Christian and non-Christian alike, with anti-Christian influences. This writer urges all readers to clip and save this introduction and all follow-up articles because the information presented, represents years of information research, analysis and documentation. We urge you to share this information with your friends and neighbors and especially your local school district officials. All follow-up articles can be viewed on the TCAN web site at; http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin Due to the urgency of the situation in the government school system TCAN respectfully request that all who receive this alert, please forward it to the maximum extent possible. * Rev. "Curt" Tomlin President The Christian Alert Network,Inc. POB 11746 Killeen, Tx 76547-1746 Ph: 254-628-7043 Fax: 254-628-7894 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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From emperors-clothes.com
This is just the start of the posting; go and read as you like. This may be
just one viewpoint but suggest researching the comparative 'success' of the
former East Germany with the former West Germany {economies, i.e.}. I see some
common elements -- not that the 'old ways' were necessarily 'best'; it's still
a matter of how well those on what used to be the other side are able to
accomodate the brave New World (order).
AER
Beginning of excerpt
With her eyes opened
A Letter to the 'Serbian Opposition' from a Bulgarian woman
by Doncheva
I was an activist in the Union of Democratic Forces (UDF) until June 1993. UDF
is the mirror image of the Serbian Alliance for Change (the United Democratic
Opposition).
The Bulgarian Union of Democratic Forces or UDF received a lot of money in 1990
- cars, computers, luxurious placards (transported from abroad in big trucks)
for the 1990 elections and the next ones - until the consolidation of the UDF in
power. We think that a certain amount of money continues to flow, but now it is
directed only to the UDF officials presently in power.
You all know what the Bulgarian government of the UDF did during the US war
against neighboring Yugoslavia. I will remind those who might happen not to know
or who have forgotten.
It provided FULL SUPPORT for the USA.
It gave the US and NATO all the asked-for corridors - in the air and on the
ground. (There is talk that Southern Serbia has been demolished by US planes
flying over Bulgaria from a US Turkish base.)
For the first time since the end of the 500 year Turkish Yoke last century
Turkish ground force passed through Bulgaria.
Here's an easy question: "From whence does money for the UDF (and now for UDF
leaders) mainly come?" You get one guess.
So. We, here in Bulgaria, have had US-style democracy since 1989. For 10 years
already.
MY TEN MOST AWFUL YEARS.
What happened during that most awful period of my life on Earth?
Through the ardent UDF leaders in power, the International Monetary Fund and the
World Bank are successfully devouring Bulgarian industry, destroying the social
fabric and opening national boundaries. (Our national boundaries, mind you,
never those of the US or Germany.)
Three ways they devour Bulgarian industry
- privatizing the Bulgarian plants and factories and liquidating them
afterwards;
- directly liquidating them;
- selling them for twopenny-halfpenny to powerful foreign corporations. For
instance, the Copper Metallurgical plant near the town of Pirdop producing gold
and platinum as well as electrolytic copper was sold in 1997 to Union Miniere,
Belgium for next to nothing!
Conclusion: Bulgarian industry and infrastructure (the roads for instance) have
been most successfully demolished - and this WITHOUT bombing! - in less than ten
years. All this, just from doing what the Serbian opposition is saying the Serbs
should do.
A popular joke here during the US war on Yugoslavia: two Turkish pilots, flying
over Bulgaria, are looking down at the Bulgarian landscape. One of them says: "I
wonder
Have we dropped bombs here?" "Dont be silly," answers the other. "It is
Bulgaria! They look like that without bombing.")
End of excerpt
From www.zmag.org
Forum Post
Chomsky On
U.S. British Political Relationship
Leonard Abrahamson, on the US-British political relationship, and why British
elites accept the role of "junior partner," as the British foreign office saw
its place, with much distress, half a century ago.
You're quite right about the illusions. From the perspective of US planners, the
"special relationship" perceived by British elites has not been taken very
seriously. More accurate are the remarks of a senior Kennedy adminstration
adviser in internal discussion: the British are "our lieutenant (the fashionable
word is partner)." And they were treated accordingly.
I think you've identified the basic factors: "the ambiguous relationship of
Britain to the big, continental, European states," and "Britain's spectacular
decline as an economic power" after the two World Wars, particularly the second,
when it was -- spectacularly -- displaced by the US as the dominant world power,
far beyond anything that Britain had dreamed of. Britain at first tried to hold
on to some kind of imperial system, but although the US tolerated that for a
time for various reasons (Britain's military power was useful for US ends; the
"dollar gap" prevented Britain from purchasing US exports; etc.), that was not
going to last. The US was committed to a form of "liberal internationalism" in
which all regional groupings would be eliminated (apart from its own) and the
world would be opened to US economic penetration and political control.
British elites knew it, at least the smarter ones, and didn't like it, but
couldn't do much about it. In the mid-40s, British officials complained
[CTRL] Substancial Liques
-Caveat Lector- From TheNation.CoM September 20, 1999 Links and Resources Related to the War on Drugs The Lindesmith Center The Lindesmith Center is a drug policy research institute that seeks to broaden the debate on drugs and drug policy. It hosts an ongoing seminar series, and offers on-line registration to receive notices of their upcoming events and publications. http://www.lindesmith.org The Drug Policy Foundation The Drug Policy Foundation is a national nonprofit organization dedicated to creating reasoned and compassionate drug policies. DPF members support comprehensive, legislative and regulatory reform of our nations drug laws and work to publicize the failing "war on drugs." http://www.dpf.org Common Sense for Drug Policy Common Sense for Drug Policy is a nonprofit organization dedicated to expanding discussion on drug policy through questioning our existing laws and educating the public about alternatives to current policies. http://www.csdp.org Families Against Mandatory Minimums Families Against Mandatory Minimums is a national organization of citizens working to reform federal and state mandatory sentencing laws. FAMM educates the public and policy makers about mandatory sentences through media outreach, grassroots campaigns and direct action. http://www.famm.org ACLU Drug Policy The American Civil Liberties Union Freedom Network believes the best way to deal with drugs is through regulation. The ACLU opposes criminal prohibition, not only because of the current policy's failure to deal effectively with the drug problem, but also because they subject otherwise law-abiding citizens to arrest, prosecution and imprisonment. http://www.aclu.org/issues/drugpolicy/hmdrugpolicy.html National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws NORML is the principal national organization dedicated to ending "marijuana prohibition," by advocating the decriminalization and legalization of marijuana. http://www.norml.org The Drug Reform Coordination Network The Drug Reform Coordination Network is an organization of concerned citizens working for drug policy reform from a variety of perspectives, including harm reduction, reform of sentencing and forfeiture laws and the medicalization of some drugs. http://www.drcnet.org North American Syringe Exchange Network The North American Syringe Exchange Network is an organization dedicated to the creation, expansion and continued existence of needle-exchange programs as a proven method of stopping the transmission of blood-borne pathogens among drug users. http://www.nasen.org Marijuana Policy Project The Marijuana Policy Project is a Washington, DC-based organization that is exclusively committed to lobbying for marijuana-law reform on the federal level. Its mission is to develop and promote policies to minimize the harm associated with marijuana prohibition. http://www.mpp.org The November Coalition Foundation A grassroots organization of citizens whose lives have been gravely affected by the US government's present drug policy. The coalition is dedicated to educating the public about the destructive increase in prison population in the United States due to our war on drugs and the steady erosion of our civil rights and freedoms by the federal government. http://www.november.org Forfeiture Endangers American Rights FEAR is a national nonprofit organization dedicated to reform of federal and state asset-forfeiture laws to restore due process and protect property rights of innocent citizens. http://www.fear.org Human Rights 95 Human Rights 95 is a photo project/exhibit dedicated to the prisoners of the drug war, their families and to those who are working to regain their freedom and restore respect for all human rights. HR95 is composed of case studies--including photos and stories--provided by nonviolent prisoners of the drug war who feel their penalties are unjust. http://www.hr95.org E-mail this story to a friend. AER ~~~ The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + A merely fallen enemy may rise again, but the reconciled one is truly vanquished. -Johann Christoph Schiller, German Writer (1759-1805) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal
[CTRL] Fwd: [RuMills] MESSAGE FROM RAYELAN ALLAN (RUSSBACHER) RU MILLS
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] September 5, 1999 Dear Rumor Mill News Readers I thought I would give you an update on what has been happening, both with the computers and with me. One of the computers, miraculously came back to life!! Hooray!!! I was on the telephone with the Compaq technician at the time itself. According to him, what happened, when it came back to lifeis impossible. That is why I call it a "miracle". Many of the files on the computer are corrupted, and some files are completely missing from their folders... but for the most part, I still have all my information. As for the other one I spent four days and countless hours on the telephone with technicians from Compaq and Windows98. They finally decided that my files are probably still in in tact. But I can't reinstall Windows 98 without running the risk of losing some of the files. I was told to download the Iomega dos program from the web, and use it in the A drive of my broken computer to tell the computer to run my Zip drive. My only problem is: It is a zipped file, and when I unzip it, it won't fit on a floppy. Therefore, my computer doesn't know it has a zip drive which is big enough to hold my files. So... this is the condition of my computers. As for the attacks on Gunther Russbacher and his wife Rayelan They are continuing. But at least I have found out where they are coming from. Today, I could have taken the time to deal with the attacks, or I could have used the same 8 hours to clean up 15 pages from the Wilcher Report which I had scanned into my OCR reader, add my comments and send the three parts out to you. The reason it takes so long to clean up the Wilcher Report, once it is scanned is that Paul preferred to print everything in BOLD. Therefore, when it is copied, the type becomes fuzzy or runs together. Which would you have preferred I do? Spend eight hours responding to attacks that are so off base and stupid that they don't deserve a response or put out work that is vital to what is going on right now AT THIS MOMENT! Getting out true information is what I am all about. Those of you who have been reading the Rumor Mill for a while know that when I make mistakes, or when I get sucked in by an unscrupulous source, I admit it. When I am wrong... I tell the whole world. All you have to do is read the Rumor Mill News web page archives and you will find examples of the mistakes I have corrected. During the years I have been releasing information that powerful men would rather see buried, I have been accused of being a CIA disinformation agent, a KGB spy, a State Department Consular Operative, a spawn of satan, a New Age wacko, a right wing militia Mama, a left wing commie picko, a mind controlled assassin, a reptilian, a fundamentalist Bible banger, Gunther's control officer, a black ops Navy Intelligence Admiral, a drug mule, a poor deluded wife with an active imagination, and an alien spaceship commander. I am sure there have been a few I have missed. When Gunther and I first came under attack in 1991, he and I tried to respond to attacks. What we discovered is that all of our time was taken up responding to the attacks. We weren't accomplishing anything constructive that would lead to his being freed. I can remember one time my best friend, Barbara Honegger attacked Gunther and me so unmercifully that Dave Emory, from Radio Free America, brought me and Harry Martin on his radio show to respond to Barbara's pack of lies. It had taken Barbara 45 minutes to sprew out her attacks on Harry, Dave, Gunther and I... but it took Harry, Dave and I FOUR hours to respond and explain how she was wrong in everything she said. This taught all of us a very good lesson the lesson being, the government has clever ways to keep people so occupied that they don't have time to do the work that they are supposed to do. One thing I know for sure, is that God would not have placed me in such strategic places, if He did not want me to tell the world what I have seen and learned. I have seen and heard things that only people with the highest clearances ever hear. I have had lunch with men and women who really do know what is going on in the world. The present attacks appear to be attempts to keep me from putting out the information that is being given to me. I have discovered, from two independent researchers meaning they don't know each other that the source of the attacks is a woman named Virginia McCoullough. I have not spoken to Virginia since Christmas eve in 1991... Why do I remember the day so well? I remember it because it was right at the height of the controversy regarding Gunther being the October Surprise pilot. There had already been several attempts on his life and on mine. I was doing as many radio shows as I could. I was talking to as many reporters and investigators as I could. My phone bill was sky high. It averaged between $1500 to $3,000 during those years.
[CTRL] Fwd: PLA Billionaire LI Ka-Shing - Email attachment
The following documents were obtained from Smith v. Commerce and show that the Dept. of Commerce was fully aware of Li Ka-Shing's funding communications systems with the PLA. Li Ka-Shing currently has control of both ends of the Panama Canal through his Hutchison Whampoa Group. Li Ka-Shing is to the PLA what Howard Hughes was for the CIA. crs To: Alain DeSarran@USFCSHqOIOEAP@DoC Cc: Dolores F Harrod@USFCSHqOIODAS@DoC Mark Bayuk@USFCSBeijing@DoC Bcc: From: Robert Bannerman@USFCSBeijing@DoC Subject: Helms Tesitmony Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 9:15:37 CST Attach: Certify: Y Forwarded by: Dear Alain: Mark Bayuk obtained a chart from DAO entitled "China's Defense-Industrial Trading Organizations", which is a non-classified document. The reference number for this document is: Defense Intelligence Reference Document No. PC- 19212-57-95, October 1995. According to Mark, BXA has a copy of this chart (which is too big to fax to you), and he will ask someone at BXA to give it to Dolly. I think this chart is what you are looking for. It includes companies such as China North Industries Group (NORINCO), China Electronic Systems Engineering Company (CESEC), etc. I will also fax you a typical article I found yesterday which mentions CESEC and identifies it has a PLA-affilated company. This chart is the only list that we have here in China of PLA-affiliated companies. The Chinese government does not publish such a list, nor do we know of any other published source or data base of PLA-affiliated companies. If you have any trouble getting a copy of this chart from BXA, please let me know and I will have someone type up the list of companies from the chart and send it to you. Regards, Bob 1997 Asia Communications CDMA Network Development Underway CHINA's second carrier is hoping to enlist Hong Kong based Hutchison Telecom in the development of a CDMA mobile phone network, writes Nick Ingelbrecht. Lian, Tong Telecommunications Corp is aiming to launch services in an initial 20 cities next year as a precursor to a national service and was due last month to finalize an agreement with Hutchison for technical and financial support. The planned network will have capacity for 400,000 subscribers in the first phase and room for a further 600,000 users under phase two. Lian Tong officials said the CDMA network would supplement their GSM service in areas where customer demand exceeded be available radio frequencies. The carrier has recruited CDMA suppliers Lucent, Samsung and Motorola to build trial networks in Shanghai, Tianjin and Guangdong. The focus of the build-out will be in southern China and 13 of the initial 20 cities are in Guangdong province. Networks are also planned for Shanghai, Tianjin, Beijing, Suzhou and Hangzhou. This arrangement would enable Lian Tong to take advantage of roaming arrangements with Hutchison's CDMA subscribers in Hung Kong. Lian Tong has opened a new wireless department at its Beijing headquarters to oversee the CDMA project. Lian Tong has a national assignment of 4MHz of radio spectrum in the 800MHz band for the new network. Hutchison's parent company, Hutchison Whampoa is already investing in a separate CDMA venture in China through its Chung Kiu joint venture. Chung Kiu has agreements to develop CDMA networks in some 37 cities in association with Great Wall Mobile Communications, the joint venture between the Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications (MPT) and China Electronics Systems Engineering Company (CESEC) a subsidiary of the People's Liberation Army. Lian Tong said it has 30 GSM networks connected with the national phone network, serving a total of 300,000 cellular subscribers. http://www.softwar.net/kashing.html Pcyphered SIGNATURE: 377D9B2BC98E68F49235F10F95C02045EAEA60069B918D8F1575AF349A36D8D6 662EE6E27956C7CD61A8F9FEBA15CF6EC4FFDE7E7DCD8DDB5061ED7C3C982B6D EC9570909FFF22D4 SOFTWAR EMAIL NEWSLETTER www.softwar.net 09/05/99 *** to unsubscribe reply with "unsubscribe" as subject***
[CTRL] Bulgar/Brit
-Caveat Lector- Not long after I stumbled across the Bulgarian's lament, I also stubbed my touchpad finger on these. It seems there may be a trend in Europe (check out their UNemployment figures) with 'marginalisation' of members of their societies. Note that the UNemployment figures ANYWHERE account for those reporting to various agencies and may not include those who just live in the shadows (or, what used to be not so out of the ordinary). Anyway, the statistics look good for councils meetings polls whathaveyou but there's always that plus or minus a per cent or two or three or more that remain(s) unaccounted for. AER From www.demos.co.uk DEMOS is an independent think tank and research institute based in London. Launched in 1993, its role is to help reinvigorate public policy and political thinking and to develop radical solutions to long term problems. the most influential think tank in Britain The Economist the most challenging agenda for the next century The Times exactly the sort of long term thinking that is missing from the current political debate Financial Times The Real Deal What young people really think about government, politics and social exclusion By Tom Bentley and Kate Oakley with Sian Gibson and Kylie Kilgour ISBN 1 898 309 83 3 £11.95 Published: Monday 17th May 1999 Young people are the focus of debate and attention across the developed world. Images of youth dominate the media and the effects of social exclusion and disadvantage on the young are the cause of growing concern. Governments have responded with policies on schools, jobs, drugs, crime and homelessness, while public and media debates focus on the pressures and risks faced by young people growing up now and the apparent inability of adult society to support them more effectively. But the voices of young people themselves are rarely heard in these debates. Despite their direct experience and expertise, media and policy makers are often unable or unwilling to include them systematically in debating and deciding what should be done. The Real Deal, a unique consultation project, set out to address this problem. Over 150 young people aged 14-24 were consulted over a period of eight months. Between them they have experience of homelessness, school exclusion, the care system, family breakdown, abuse, unemployment, drugs and crime. Their views and ideas had never been sought before. This report sets out what they said. The real deal presents a direct and authoritative picture of life for people growing up with social exclusion in the United Kingdom today and the issues which matter to them. These include: community and identity drugs and recreation learning and working politics and government family and support housing and homelessness The report shows that, despite the disillusionment and sense of isolation which many of these young people feel, they want the same things in life as most other people and are determined to find positive solutions to the challenges they face. The policies they call for are essential to ensuring that all young people are involved in creating a more positive future. Destination Unknown Engaging with the problems of marginalised youth By Tom Bentley and Ravi Gurumurthy ISBN 1 898309 29 9 £9.95 Published: Monday 17th May 1999 This ground-breaking report sets out, for the first time, a detailed national picture of the numbers of young people who are 'off register': not in work, full-time education or training and not claiming unemployment benefits. It shows that the problems facing those at risk are far greater than the limited picture provided by unemployment statistics or school league tables . The situation they face puts them at disproportionate risk of long-term marginalisation, with huge costs to individuals, government and society as a whole. Many of these young people do not show up in official registers of unemployment or qualify for programmes such as the New Deal. Their contact with government and mainstream society is infrequent, their attachment work, learning and community life are weak. However, far from being a 'lost generation' , some people have shown how to engage and support those most at risk and increase their chances of long term achievement . Ensuring that all young people have the opportunity to reach productive , independent adulthood requires a campaign of outreach and engagement, and long term change to the framework of public services. The report argues that reforms must focus on the overall coherence of support and provision, rather than on the effectiveness of single institutions and programmes. Drawing on lessons from local projects, international best practice and new statistical evidence, it sets a challenging agenda for government, the voluntary sector and local communities to achieve social inclusion for all. Then, and THEN, I found this (same general
[CTRL] rapist wouldn't back Navy officer after laser attack
-Caveat Lector- I am much afraid that schools will prove to be the great gates of hell unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures, engraving them in the hearts of youth. I advise no one to place his child where the scriptures do not reign paramount. Every institution in which men are not increasingly occupied with the Word of God must become corrupt. -- Martin Luther http://www.washtimes.com/investiga/gertz2.html Published in Washington, D.C. 5am -- May 17, 1999 www.washtimes.com Book Excerpt Clinton wouldn't back Navy officer after laser attack By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Bill Gertz, defense and national security reporter for The Washington Times, details the motives and dangers of the Clinton administration's national defense policies in a new book, "Betrayal: How the Clinton Administration Undermined American Security" (Regnery Publishing Inc.). he phone rang in the middle of the night at the Canadian home of U.S. Navy Lt. Jack Daly. "The Kapitan Man is inbound about to enter the strait," the watch officer told Lt. Daly over the phone from the joint intelligence center at Canada's military base near Esquimault, on Vancouver Island. The Kapitan Man for years had masqueraded as a merchant vessel but actually was one of two Russian spy ships that tracked nine U.S. nuclear submarines based nearby in Bangor, Wash. Now the Kapitan Man was at the mouth of the 100-mile Juan de Fuca Strait, heading into Puget Sound. Lt. Daly's orders: secretly photograph it from above with a digital camera as part of the crew of a Canadian helicopter. It was 3:30 a.m. April 4, 1997. The mission would change Lt. Daly's life -- and his opinion of the U.S. government and the Navy he loved. He showered, grabbed his flight suit and headed for the base as reports on the Kapitan Man's movements continued to flow from the Coast Guard. Lt. Daly sat in a jump seat on the port side of the CH-124 helicopter, hooked up to a safety line, as the aircraft took off about noon and flew southeast from Victoria International Airport. "We've got an outbound boomer on the surface," Capt. Pat Barnes, the pilot, announced as they reached the water. The huge, black submarine was the USS Ohio, which had dropped off an ill crew member at its home port, Bangor. Because its missions are secret, the nuclear sub was not supposed to be on the surface. It had just had a direct encounter with the Kapitan Man. "If we had launched five minutes sooner, I would have been able to photograph both vessels in the same frame," Lt. Daly said. Three merchant ships came into view, the Kapitan Man in the middle. At Lt. Daly's direction, Capt. Barnes made a single circle over the U.S.-flagged container ship President Jackson and then headed east for three passes of the Kapitan Man. After three circles, the chopper flew directly over the top of the ship. It was about 12:30 p.m. "As far as I knew," Lt. Daly said, "the camera was working and the mission was successful." 'You better take a look' Lt. Daly, a foreign intelligence liaison officer, was assigned to Maritime Forces Pacific, a joint command staffed by about 1,500 Canadian navy, air force and army personnel who defend Canada's West Coast and work closely with the U.S. Navy. In an informal debriefing back at the airfield, the crew reported having seen someone on the bridge of the Kapitan Man holding what appeared to be binoculars. A Canadian intelligence officer saw a man on deck, his arms crossed over his head. About 4 p.m. at Esquimault, Lt. Daly handed the digital camera to U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer Scott Tabor, who was trained in imagery technology and analysis. Chief Tabor downloaded the images to an office computer. About 5:30 p.m., Chief Tabor walked into Lt. Daly's office. "Are you having any problems with your eyes?" he asked. "Yeah, my right eye is bugging me," Lt. Daly replied. "I guess I must have gotten something in it when I stuck my head out the door because of the wind." "Are you experiencing any kind of headache?" "Yeah, I have a real bad headache." "Well, I think you better take a look at this." Chief Tabor handed him a photo. It showed a red dot of light on the bridge of the Kapitan Man. "I think you may have caught a laser beam in this picture," Chief Tabor said. "I know this is supposed to be the running-light area, but the signature of the light in this picture just doesn't look right to me." 'Definitive evidence' The former Soviet Union often used lasers for military purposes. During the Cold War, the Russians fired lasers at pilots. Air crews had been warned to don protective eye gear, but pilots
[CTRL] rapist failed to punish nuclear proliferation
-Caveat Lector- They [the Founding Fathers] were intent upon establishing a Christian commonwealth in accordance with the principle of self-government. They were an inspired body of men. It has been said that God sifted the nations that He might send choice grain into the wilderness Who can fail to see in it the hand of destiny? Who can doubt that it has been guided by a Divine Providence. -- Calvin Coolidge - Published in Washington, D.C. 5am -- May 18, 1999 www.washtimes.com Clinton failed to punish nuclear proliferation By Bill Gertz THE WASHINGTON TIMES Bill Gertz, defense and national security reporter for The Washington Times, details the motives and dangers of the Clinton administration's national defense policies in a new book, "Betrayal: How the Clinton Administration Undermined American Security" (Regnery Publishing Inc.), which is excerpted below. larm bells went off at the headquarters of the supersecret National Security Agency on a cold December day in 1995. NSA, located inside an Army base at Fort Meade, Md., is the U.S. intelligence community's ears around the world. It picks up millions of communications, from coded military radio transmissions to cellular-phone conversations by international weapons dealers. This time, NSA listeners got the immediate attention of Vice Adm. J. Michael McConnell, who, as the agency's director, was the nation's premier electronic spymaster. The intercept that crossed his desk revealed that a year earlier, in December 1994, China completed a $70,000 deal to sell Pakistan 5,000 custom-made "ring magnets" produced by an arm of the Chinese government's China National Nuclear Corp. The intelligence report noted that the devices -- ring-shaped, high-technology magnetic bearings -- are key components in making fuel for nuclear weapons. The technology transfer remained secret until this reporter broke the story on the front page of The Washington Times on Feb. 5, 1996. But the Clinton White House made sure the State Department did not conclude China violated the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty or impose legally required economic sanctions. The administration's policy was that sanctions against China should be avoided. It would be bad for the international business that Commerce Secretary Ronald H. Brown was trying to drum up. "The lengths this administration went to to ignore great dangers to U.S. national security in the name of promoting business were unprecedented," said a former military officer who worked in the White House and declined to be named. And on May 29, 1998 -- about 2 and a half years after U.S. intelligence flagged the China deal with Pakistan -- the ground shook in a remote region of southwestern Pakistan as that nation conducted an underground nuclear test. It was the beginning of a new arms race in Southwest Asia. Back in December 1995, NSA immediately had sent a top-secret cable under Adm. McConnell's title to the head of the CIA's Non-Proliferation Center and to senior officials at the Pentagon, White House and State Department, notifying them of China's shipment of ring magnets to Pakistan. The intelligence report created a furor within the Clinton administration over whether China had helped Pakistan make fuel for its nuclear-weapons arsenal, estimated at 10 to 15 unassembled nuclear devices. At the State Department, Robert Einhorn, deputy assistant secretary for political-military affairs, quickly recognized the problem. He had been assigned the task of looking into the application of complex laws enacted by Congress to put teeth into policies designed to halt the spread of weapons of mass destruction. Made of a special alloy called samarium-cobalt, ring magnets must be precision-manufactured to withstand the high speeds of gas centrifuges that are part of the process for making nuclear-bomb fuel. China is the world leader in producing the components. The sale triggered a provision of law on business loans requiring the secretary of state to notify the Export-Import Bank when any nation is caught helping another nation develop nuclear weapons. Mr. Einhorn called the bank and told officials the intelligence reports meant that, under the 1994 Nuclear Proliferation Prevention Act, the bank could be required to hold up all new loan guarantees for projects sought by American businesses in China. But the Commerce Department, headed by Mr. Brown, former Democratic National Committee chairman, soon was leading the charge to block economic sanctions against Beijing and Islamabad. The Clinton administration ignored the violations. 'Chinese not forthcoming' The United States had imposed sanctions against China in 1993 for selling M-11
[CTRL] rapist's mortgage deal [London Telegraph]
-Caveat Lector- ISSUE 1563 Sunday 5 September 1999 Critics attack Clintons' mortgage deal By David Wastell PRESIDENT Clinton was engulfed in a fresh financial controversy yesterday over the mortgage arrangements for the $1.7 million (£1.1 million) house which will provide the base for his wife's Senate election challenge. The Clintons, who have legal debts of more than £3 million, were able to buy the 11-room colonial-style house in Chappaqua, north of New York city, only after the President's chief fund-raiser, Terry McAuliffe, personally secured the £840,000 loan. Mr McAuliffe, 42, who rose to prominence raising cash for President Jimmy Carter's 1980 re-election campaign, is seen by many as the personification of the campaign finance system, which critics say is in danger of corrupting United States politics. Although the financier has never been the target of any criminal inquiry, several of his business dealings have come under legal scrutiny. Pressure groups seeking higher ethical standards in public office pounced on the Clintons' arrangement yesterday, referring to Mr McAuliffe as the US First Family's "First Friend". Chuck Lewis, of the Centre for Public Integrity, said the deal meant Mr McAuliffe had become the Clintons' "personal financial backer". He added: "I've never seen a president so personally dependent financially on one person." Ellen Miller, of Public Campaign, said: "Probably no one has more and longer tentacles into the worlds of money and politics than Terry McAuliffe. It's an unhealthy relationship for anyone to have to the President and the First Lady." A spokesman for Democracy 21 said: "It's dangerous." The Clintons' mortgage, which is on an interest-only basis and which must be repaid in full after five years, comes from a bank with which three Clinton administration aides or friends have ties. Although the interest rate will be adjustable, it is currently expected to be set at 6.52 per cent when it is fixed for the first six months on November 1, the closing date for the purchase. Monthly payments will be £4,500, which can be offset against tax. Under the unusual arrangement made with the bank, Bankers' Trust Private Banking, Mr McAuliffe will deposit the full amount he is guaranteeing for the lifetime of the mortgage. By doing so, say mortgage experts, he enables the Clintons to avoid having to endure the full financial scrutiny of the bank. If the Clintons default on the mortgage, the bank will seize Mr McAuliffe's cash. Otherwise he will receive it back, with interest, when the mortgage is repaid. The deal is set up in such a way that, under US government rules, Mr McAuliffe's loan does not constitute a gift. Vernon Jordan, a Washington lawyer and another close friend, is one of three people connected to Mr Clinton with links to the bank, although it is not known whether he played any part in setting up the loan. He is a former director. The bank's current vice-chairman and its former chief executive both previously held junior positions within the administration. A White House spokesman dismissed the criticism, saying: "Terry McAuliffe is a close friend of the President and he's happy to be of some help here." Meanwhile in Chappaqua, Westchester County, there were murmurings of discontent at the prospect of the 11,200-strong community facing large bills for the extra policing required to deal with the traffic and parking problems caused by the Clinton entourage and sightseers. The town supervisor, Clinton Smith, said: "We'd have no qualms about suggesting that it should be the responsibility of the federal government." 3 September 1999: Clintons buy New York home offered at £1m 2 September 1999: Hillary's consort runs gauntlet in enemy territory 30 August 1999: Cash rolls in as Hillary Clinton meets the rich 24 August 1999: Taxpayers foot Hillary's holiday campaign bill 30 July 1999: Clinton told to pay £56,000 costs over Lewinsky 'lies' 15 November 1998: Clinton camp to turn the heat on Starr http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=001863356114602rtmo=VZ4Vjj4xatmo= pg=/et/99/9/5/wclin05.html Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Martin Luther comment on institutions of Learning
-Caveat Lector- I am much afraid that schools will prove to be the great gates of hell unless they diligently labor in explaining the Holy Scriptures, engraving them in the hearts of youth. I advise no one to place his child where the scriptures do not reign paramount. Every institution in which men are not increasingly occupied with the Word of God must become corrupt. -- Martin Luther Provable Accusations against American Public Schools http://www.riverpup.com/brainwash/school2.html Bard I do not believe human society, including not merely a few persons in any state, but whole masses of men, ever have attained, or ever can attain, a high state of intelligence, virtue, security, liberty, or happiness without the Holy Scriptures; even the whole hope of human progress is suspended on the ever-growing influence of the Bible. -- William Henry Seward DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Stop war upon women, drug victims, minorities, and the environment
-Caveat Lector- Below the line following is a petition to the United Nations, for the relief of atrocious human rights abuses of women in Afghanistan, which I am emailing here to UN offices and copying to others for supportive responses, including many media outlets for coverage of this issue as relates to covert US agency policies, et al. This petition seems to be a variation of another on the internet some months ago which was terminated because it was too successful and overwhelmed the server at Brandeis University. In addition to the points raised below I have two major concerns. First that this problem is generally perceived as a symptom of "fundamentalism" in the Islamic faith, which in fact is not the case, and I hope that any clarifying details on this can be sent out via appropriate media. In this regard I am inspired to know of the prominent leadership roles, such as that to the UN on the 13moon Global Peace Calendar Change proposal http://www.earthascending.com , taken by women like Mother Tynetta Muhammad in that segment of the American Islamic community known to themselves as the Nation of Islam, and to others as the "black Muslims" http://www.finalcall.com ). I hope that their example will be an inspiration for others in demonstrating increasing respect for the leadership of women as evidenced also in many indigenous American cultures (eg, the leaders of the Haudenosaunee "Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy", after which the "Founding Fathers" patterned the US system of goverment, are all chosen by women). http://www.sixnations.org Secondly, ample evidence exists to show that the so-called Taliban movement in political control of Afghanistan, which is responsible for this "gendercidal" policy there towards women, is a creation of the US CIA in its ongoing complicity with the illegal drug trade around the world (see http://www.copvcia.com and http://www.macronet.org/cia/ciadrugs.html ), meaning that the hoodwinked citizens of the United States, and their government, bear a significant share of the responsibility for this war upon the women of Afghanistan and so they must take direct responsibility for solving the problem by bringing out the truth about this "scandal of the century" as per the "tip of the iceberg" confession of CIA drug smuggling complicity in CIA Inspector General's internal investigation report volume2 now in Congress and almost buried from public view because of adverse political impacts for major figures in both Democratic and Republican Parties (see info CIA IG report at www.copvcia.com ) and because of the enormous extent to which the American economy, the stock market, and the hidden "American Ethnic Cleansing Policy" (against Blacks, American Indians, etc.) are all addicted to illicit drug profits with the increasing police state and prison industry "necessary" to combat associated violence and street crimes. These and other issues related to oppression of women and minorities will be among the many social and environmental survival issue messages carried next year from San Francisco (January 15th MLK birthday) to Washington, DC (Columbus Day), to New York City for the United Nations 55th anniversary (October 24, 2000), to unite all survival issues in the prayer for "Global Peace Now!" as a universal human resolve and for a worldwide Global Peace Zone2000. Please add your message and support for GPW2000 http://www.globalpeacenow.org for its success as the first great transcontinental peace march of the new millennium of the Gregorian Calendar, and first peace march ever to inaugurate the harmonizing 13moon Global Calendar of Peace already presented to the United Nations this summer after the World Summit on Peace and Time at the UN associated University for Peace in Costa Rica. - Please spare a minute to read this mail. Thank you. Rather than pass it on as is, I have added above suggestions to remedy the subject problem and sending to UN offices now rather than wait until 50 people have signed below because the "chain letter" format of this request is not consistent with my service agreement with my ISP provider and this format ultimately results in many duplicated names being sent with an impossible job to sort out the actual numbers of endorsers by ultimate recipients (even if their server can keep up). I suggest each person receiving this send this or a variation/expanded version to addressees above, individually instead of lists of 50, and whatever other media, government, and public contacts that you can.-dcw The government of Afghanistan is waging a war upon women. The situation is getting so bad that one person in an editorial of The Times compared the treatment of women there to the treatment of Jews in pre-Holocaust Poland. Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to wear burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the proper attire, even if this means simply not having the
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: SNET: Child Abuse At Waco.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/05/1999 3:10:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In this regard, let me emphasize that, despite what religious and social apologists say, any adult who grooms children to be his sex objects is sexually abusing those children. Sex between an adult and a child is abusive. Sex between an adult and an 11 or 12 year old child can not be consensual. The fact that the name of God and religion were used to obscure this exploitive and abusive practice make these activities even more heinous and destructive to the long term development of these children. \ I agree with you, and if what is written in your posting is true, then the authorities should have been charging this guy with child sexual abuse and putting him in jail. Why was the only reason for going after him something to do with weapons? For some reason or other, no one cared about the children even before they killed them. It was weapons that were important. Why didn't they simply pick this guy up from one of his jogs and charge him with his crimes? No matter how you slice it, nothing the Government (local or federal) makes any sense at all. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Going Postal and Beyond: Part I
-Caveat Lector- I can certainly say something about the Postal Service and why there is so much violence within it. There is this because of many factors. The fact that we have a high stress job that is made worse by Unions who ineffectively protect workers rights by making deals with management that the membership neither knows about nor approves. Management's continuing lack of concern for the individual and a totalitarian style which punishes all things with discipline (the use of leave is restricted so much that you must have doctor's excuse for every absence, and you must be incapacitated for work if you use sick leave or it is a disciplinary action against you). Other leave is stingily granted and rigidly controlled. There is the constant threat of deadline and the ominous "privatization" thing always brought out of the woodwork to heighten the stress. The fact that there are so many veterans and mentally disturbed people (along with many just plain weirdoes, who are really scary) makes me think these people are hired BECAUSE they are that way and it is part of some plan to keep the workforce forever unstable and subject to random acts of violence and repression. Hey its just a thought but I have some knowledge on the matter. It could be incorporating a social or cultural experiment since the PS is everywhere and is so big, and is so diverse, that it is the population in microcosm. A perfect environment to do sociological experimentation, including. . .who knows what? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] a vote for GWB is a vote for the NWO; make no mistake!
-Caveat Lector- "What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based upon shared principles and the rule of law The illumination of a thousand points of light The winds of change are with us now." President Bush - In his State of the Union message during the Gulf War. Folks, Due to corrupt government schools the underclass will not have the necessary skills to earn a living wage to buy even the sh*t manufacturered by the Asian ants, let along the necessities of life. Mark my Word! No way can they compete in an Information Technology environment. The illegal immigration only compounds the problem. GWB can take his Spanish-speaking skills and sick them up where the sun don't shine; talk about pandering!! Provable Accusations against American Public Schools http://www.riverpup.com/brainwash/school2.html Will be interesting to see if Pat Buchanan succumbs to the pressure of the GOP leadership thugs and remain in the Repub Party. lol Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] a vote for GWB is a vote for the NWO; make no mistake!
-Caveat Lector- You are correct! And considering that GWB was a member of his father's own "SkullBones" sick society, there is no doubt that they share the same f*cked-up brain. From: Bard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] a vote for GWB is a vote for the NWO; make no mistake! Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:03:11 -0700 -Caveat Lector- "What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based upon shared principles and the rule of law The illumination of a thousand points of light The winds of change are with us now." President Bush - In his State of the Union message during the Gulf War. Folks, Due to corrupt government schools the underclass will not have the necessary skills to earn a living wage to buy even the sh*t manufacturered by the Asian ants, let along the necessities of life. Mark my Word! No way can they compete in an Information Technology environment. The illegal immigration only compounds the problem. GWB can take his Spanish-speaking skills and sick them up where the sun don't shine; talk about pandering!! Provable Accusations against American Public Schools http://www.riverpup.com/brainwash/school2.html Will be interesting to see if Pat Buchanan succumbs to the pressure of the GOP leadership thugs and remain in the Repub Party. lol Bard Visit me at: The Center for Exposing Corruption in the Federal Government http://www.xld.com/public/center/center.htm Federal Government defined: a benefit/subsidy protection racket! DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Breaking the Circle of SRA
-Caveat Lector- This may be triggering for survivors of abuse. IMO, the sections below help explain why some survivors may become reinvolved in cults after leaving their original one. Codependency characteristics can be used by some groups to revictimize survivors. Survivor alters can be used by other cults or cult-like groups to reprogram victims, if these groups can find the survivor's triggers and make them emotionally dependent on the new group. "Non-RA" techniques (which I have mentioned in previous posts) can be also be used to reprogram survivors. Sincerely, Neil Brick The following selections are from "Breaking the Circle of Satanic Ritual Abuse - Recognizing and Recovering from the Hidden Trauma" Daniel Ryder CCDC, LSW pub. CompCare Publishers, 2415 Annapolis Lane, Minn, MN 55441 1-800-328-3330 c 1992 "While it is becoming clear that cult ritual abuse has been going on for generations, the horrible tales are only now surfacing with steady frequency, simply because only recently has an environment been created to support survivors getting in touch with these kinds of memories. This environment is partially, if not largely, attributable to improved counseling techniques, better understanding of the psychological effects of trauma, and the evolution of the Twelve Step self-help movement ...into areas of codependency, sexual abuse and ritual abuse. Codependency can be defined as a condition marked by an inordinate reliance on person(s), thing(s), or activities, for personal well-being and self-esteem. " (preface section) Ritual Abuse Characteristics List (pg. 9) Having some of the following characteristics may indicate ritual abuse in one's background: 1. Dreams with reoccurring images of blood, robed figures...(etc.) 2. Vague, scattered, or almost nonexistent childhood memories. 3. Pronounced panic reactions to films (with SRA themes)...and (extremely) violent ...movies 4. Self-mutilation... 5. An extremely passive nature. Inordinate fear of physical violence... (or weapons) 6. Hypersensitivity about being the center of attention...uncomfortable in, or around...circles 7. Sexual perversion or dysfunction...(ex:) sadomasochistic tendencies 8. A propensity for urinary problems, rectal symptoms...odd-shaped rashes (body memories) 9. Hypersensitivity to unexpected touch and loud noises. 10. Extreme difficulty with trust 11. Codependency characteristics in the extreme 12. Extreme scrupulosity ...Phobia about snakes Transgenerational Cults (pg 14 - 17) ...are those perpetuated through family generations...may be based on other forms of religious tradition (besides Satanism)...certain children are earmarked for certain roles...some ... are groomed to be high priests or priestesses...some to be recruiters ...some such as where and how to dispose of victims' remains...it is this attention to detail, combined with highly sophisticated mind-control techniques, and the identity facade of who the cult members appear to be, that may account for these types of cults going undetected for so long monitor police scanner frequencies...are stationed as perimeter security...victims reports show some of the members are doctors, lawyers, respected business people, PTA mothers, regular church attendees, clergypersons, law enforcement officials...they seem to have all the bases covered...cult's biggest fears revolve around being exposed Leaving the Cults (pg 30 - 31) "Some survivors get out of the cult...when they move...it is most often some of the alter personalities in survivors with ...MPD that get reinvolved with the cult or a cult in another city, without the "birth person's" conscious knowledge. Survivor reports indicate victims are often programmed to come back later in life to the original cult, or to get involved with another." DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] a vote for GWB is a vote for the NWO; make no mistake!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/5/99 7:25:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are correct! And considering that GWB was a member of his father's own "SkullBones" sick society, there is no doubt that they share the same f*cked-up brain. A TOTAL "Amen" Pennie!! Bill/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] a vote for GWB is a vote for the NWO; make no mistake!
-Caveat Lector- Thank you, Bill! Now, if we all just vote for Forbes, we can cause some changes around here! From: William Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] a vote for GWB is a vote for the NWO; make no mistake! Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:21:00 EDT -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/5/99 7:25:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are correct! And considering that GWB was a member of his father's own "SkullBones" sick society, there is no doubt that they share the same f*cked-up brain. A TOTAL "Amen" Pennie!! Bill/ DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] criminotourism
-Caveat Lector- 3. From iafrica.com: South Africa - a criminal's paradise. With more than 11 000 murderers on the run in South Africa, Satour should change its target market. Instead of cajoling families and fun-seekers, it should focus on those who would really find South Africa attractive - budding and fully-fledged criminals. Echo? Shmecho! We suggest: Criminotourism! Direct URL: http://iafrica.com/forum/index.htm?src_id=tmp0336 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Going Postal and Beyond: Part I
-Caveat Lector- In my ll-year experience with a large federal gov. agency, I agree it is not just USPS that is affected. The problem is a maniacal octopuslike Bureaucracy, made worse by a "reinvention" that has brought ills as diverse as reductions in force to early-out retirement payoffs and has done little about the primary problem, funding. There is not enough tax dollars to pay for the equipment upgrades that will work efficiencies. Nor enough tax dollars to pay for a sufficient number of workers to maintain those efficiencies. Management is not trained in management. Therefore they are bad managers. They are part of the problem but not voluntarily so (at least the ones with brains). Management just passes along ideas the Bureaucratsters believe work. The Bureaucratsters typically get their marching orders from Congress and/or think tanks and consulting groups. Incestuous. The little people suffer. Now, in the millennium, the middling people will suffer, too. Only those who don't buck the Bureaucracy will go forth and prosper. Whining Whistleblower Wannabe, Terry DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] WACO INFORMATION CONTINUES TO SURFACE (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- From: Frontline: http://fps1999.webjump.com/ WACO INFORMATION CONTINUES TO SURFACE By. John Culbertson There are more developments in the Waco case. Reports are circulating that Federal Marshals have served search warrants on the Federal Bureau of investigation Headquarters in Washington and have seized additional unseen until now evidence regarding the FBI's conduct at Waco. In another development the Justice Department is challenging a federal judge's authority to take control of evidence under the control of the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS), despite the fact that DPS has filed a motion requesting that he do so. MILITARY DOCUMENTS DESTROYED FRONTLINE has obtained documents that show yet another component of the puzzle that we see unfolding about us. Documents that have been obtained by FRONTLINE show that the US Military destroyed "all files" concerning the support mission at Waco on or about October 1, 1994 about a year and a half after the fire that destroyed the Davidian compound and almost a year before Congressional hearings into the series of events now characterized as Waco. In other words important files were discovered during the course of a Congressional investigation. The document, a United States Army Special Forces Command "Staff Action Summary Sheet" on the subject of the "DISPOSITION OF FILES REGARDING USASFC COUNTERDRUG SUPPORT IN WACO. TEXAS" is dated November 21, 1994 is a routine enough report. But the routine nature changes when one discovers in item 2 "DISCUSSION" that "All files concerning this mission support have been destroyed on or about 1 October, 1994." FRONTLINE contacted military affairs expert Lt. Col. Roger Charles (USMC Ret.) who inspected the document and talked to FRONTLINE regarding the normal disposition of documents within the US military system. When asked about the normal procedures for the handling of files particularly ones regarding actual missions, Charles replied: "It is very unusual (to destroy documents) particularly in a high profile case, even routine documents are supposed to be retained for 2 years." Charles went on to characterize the destruction of the documents as a "Flagrant violation of regulations and says very loudly that someone was very concerned about something that would happen later." It is clear that an order originated somewhere to cause the destruction of the files. By doing so during the course of an official investigation by Congressional committees into the actions taken at Waco, the destruction of these files in all likelihood constitutes obstruction of justice. SPECIAL FORCES INVOLVEMENT Other information that can be gleaned from this document include the fact that the mission originated in February of 1993, and was carried out by Joint Task Force Six and the 3rd Special Forces Group. According to the US Army Joint Task force Six can be described as follows: "Joint Task Force Six (JTF-6), located at Biggs Army Airfield, Fort Bliss, Texas, is assigned to U.S. Atlantic Command, under the operational control of the U.S. Forces Command. JTF-6 is a multi-service command comprised of approximately 159 soldiers, sailors, Marines, airmen, and civilian employees. JTF-6's role in the counterdrug effort is articulated in its mission statement: "JTF-6 synchronizes and integrates DOD operational, technological, training and intelligence support to domestic law enforcement agencies' counterdrug efforts in the continental United States to reduce the availability of illegal drugs in the United States." 3rd Special Forces Group is headquartered at Ft. Bragg, North Carolina and like most Special Operations groups the Army has little comment regarding these operational units. Other documents support the involvement of forces from Ft. Bragg in the pre raid planning activities and training. This raises questions as to just what the involvement was of military units in the entire operation from pre-raid planning all the way through the final assault and deadly fire. The destruction of evidence in contravention of established procedures and records is troubling to say the least. The very fact that Special Forces command had a concern as to the disposition of files regarding the operation raises troubling questions regarding the actual involvement of the US Military at Waco. Because the US Military acts only at the request and pleasure of civilian control, questions regarding the entire operation must focus on the Department of Justice, Treasury and with the Administration. There are currently discussions in Washington on forming a joint House-Senate Committee to investigate the activities of all parties involved in the events at the Davidian compound in Waco. Formation of an independent investigative body to fully explore the evidence and report to the American people on the conduct of their government is a needed first step in restoring the credibility of Federal Law Enforcement. There is no doubt that
[CTRL] Reason for Oklahoma City Federal building bombing discovered
-Caveat Lector- This story details links between Gulf War Syndrome, a prison inmate medical testing program by a company that George Bush had investments in, and the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma. " In his congressional testimony, Dr. Garth Nicolson stated that the Gulf War was the first time in history that vaccine records on the troops were classified and remain classified to this day. The Department of Defense has admitted, however, that over 400,000 records have disappeared." "Former Air Force Captain Joyce Riley, a Gulf War vet and another major figure working to expose the causes of GWI, has concluded that medical records of approximately 70% of all Gulf War vets are listed as "missing." *"Another bizarre twist to this tale is that the army's medical records from the Gulf War were in storage at the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City when it was bombed." "As Garth Nicolson reported his discoveries, [on prison inmate testing of mycoplasma fermentans] he encountered increasing hostility from his peers, including Dr. Charles LeMaistre, a friend of George Bush and the past president of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center; Dr. George Young, chief of the VA in Houston; and Dr. Robert M. Couch, head of the Baylor Influenza Program, because his findings implied illegal testing. Among Tanox's investors are George Bush and his former Secretary of State and fellow Texan James Baker III. As opposition rose, so did their understanding of M.D. Anderson's deep involvement in biological weapons research and testing since the late 1970s, and that M.D. Anderson was specifically engaged in research on mycoplasma fermentans as a biological weapon." Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart Heroic Nicholsons Get Funding As GWI Explodes Into US Population By Paul Likoudis The Wanderer Feature Article Gulf War Illness Probe To Advance With New Study Tom Clancy's latest novel Rainbow Six rivets readers with a fictional account of environmentalist elites who decide that the only way they can save the world is to radically eliminate over 95% of the human population. Some of the world's leading scientists develop a strain of viruses, which they call Shiva after the Indian goddess of death, and devise an ingenious method to infect the world's population. Part of Clancy's plot involves the development of two antibodies to fight the new virus, one of which will be for the world's elite, to inoculate them; the other for the sick, to make them sicker. But there's a more riveting reallife scenario unfolding in the United States and around the world that puts Clancy's fictional thriller into the realm of the credible: the efforts of a small group of reputable scientists, sick U.S. veterans, and a handful of investigative journalists to unlock the secrets of Gulf War Illness (GWI), sometimes referred to as Gulf War Syndrome, which has afflicted between 100,000 and 200,000 military personnel who served in President George Bush's Desert Storm and their families, and which is responsible for perhaps 15,000 deaths. The number of military personnel who have died of the mysterious illness remains a classified secret, one of GWI's top researchers, Dr. Garth Nicolson of the Institute for Molecular Medicine, told The Wanderer. For nearly ten years, since his daughter Sharron returned from the gulf where she served with the 101st Airborne, Nicolson and his wife, Nancy, a molecular biophysicist, have waged a lonely, frustrating, and often dangerous campaign to discover the causes of GWI while working on a treatment. Their first big break came last week (Jan. 12th) when they were notified by the U.S. Army that their research had been validated and their Institute for Molecular Medicine would be one of three centers, with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and the University of Texas at San Antonio, involved in a $12 million Veterans' Administrationfunded project to develop a treatment for the debilitating and often fatal illness, an infection known technically as mycoplasma fermentans. Dr. Nicolson explains that slightly under onehalf of the Gulf War veterans he has tested have shown signs of infection by mycoplasma fermentans. For the husband/wife team of researchers, the army's notice came as a tremendous vindication after years of repeated attempts by government agencies to ruin their careers, their credibility, and their research. As both Nancy and Garth Nicolson wrote in the October, 1996 issue of Criminal Politics, since he began researching the causes of GWI, he has lived through a government sponsored "nightmare." "We were attacked by high level military physicians, ostracized by certain colleagues who spread rumors about our sanity, forced out of academic institutions by a concerted effort that involved nonstop
[CTRL] MILITIA attacks drive out United Nations officials[Timor]
-Caveat Lector- September 6 1999 FAR EAST Anti-independence militiamen kill 20 Australian Navy to evacuate UN staff 150,000 flee East Timor terror FROM DAVID WATTS IN DILI AND JAMES BONE IN NEW YORK MILITIA gunmen rampaged through the capital of East Timor last night killing more than 20 people as violence throughout the territory forced up to 150,000 a quarter of the population to become refugees. The well co-ordinated attacks appeared designed to drive out United Nations officials, aid workers and foreign media after the historic vote for independence from Indonesia. The militiamen surrounded the UN compound and overran hotels used by foreigners. Today Australia will launch an evacuation of non-essential United Nations staff and Australians, a defence official said. Lieutenant-Colonel David Tyler said that the Australian Defence Force would make several sorties into Dili using five C-130 Hercules transport aircraft flying out of the Tyndall air force base at Darwin in Northern Territory. The UN Security Council decided yesterday to send a mission to Jakarta to put pressure on the Indonesian government to halt the violence. Reports from Dili said that pro-Indonesian militias had attacked the home in the capital of the Nobel Peace Prize winner Bishop Carlos Belo, torching the Roman Catholic diocese office and burning houses. Bishop Belos fellow prize winner, the independence leader Jose Ramos-Horta, called for international military intervention, saying that the credibility of the United Nations was at stake. "People must be protected by an independent, neutral armed force in the territory," he said. Pro-independence sources said at least 100 East Timorese had been killed in two days of bloody unrest since Saturdays announcement that a UN-organised ballot on August 30 had recorded a 78.5 per cent vote in favour of the territorys independence from Indonesia. Indonesia came under blistering international criticism for failing to control the proJakarta militias, as its ministers of defence, foreign affairs, police and justice flew to Dili to discuss the crisis with UN officials. Last night the UN convened an emergency session and Australia made a proposal to send in a UN-authorised peacekeeping force. Indonesia is resisting the suggestion. Only hours after the referendum result was announced militiamen began rampaging through areas known to support independence. The militias appeared determined to carry out their threat of civil war if Jakartas offer of autonomy without independence was turned down. Shortly after nightfall, in a well-organised exercise in terror clearly intended to look like civil war and to paralyse UN operations, gunmen started firing streams of tracer fire over a crowded camp in a school area next to the UN compound. It had the desired effect. Men, women and children threw themselves at the razor wire that surrounds the compound in a frantic attempt to escape what they had been warned would happen to them. The women had been told to dance and enjoy the day because it would be their last. Shredding themselves on the wire, they ran screaming into the UN base; 1,400 men, women and children crammed into the hall. They were already hungry and tired from days in the camp. "Ive never seen a controlled situation so out of control," an official said. James Dunn, a leading foreign expert on the territory, said: "Its a thoroughly planned campaign from over the border in West Timor which has exposed the Indonesian lie that they are loved here in East Timor. "The vote is an utter humiliation for the army and they are venting their frustration on the people." The UN pulled all its staff in the capital back to its main compound and suffered its first serious Western casualty when a young American doctor was ambushed east of Dili by a dark-clad gunman carrying an automatic weapon and wearing a flak jacket similar to those used by Indonesias mobile brigade. The representatives of CARE International, Mèdecins sans Frontiéres and World Vision International were all threatened or attacked. The offices of the principal human rights association were raided, the attackers smashing in the windows and climbing in. Eight people were killed in a diocesan house in the centre of Dili, and about 20 elsewhere in the town. In the past 24 hours, 25,000 people in the capital have become refugees. The total number of refugees was reported to be more than 100,000 and up to 150,000. http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/99/09/06/timfgnfar01004.html?11240 27 Bard DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no
