Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-27 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 5/26/00 6:07:09 PM Central Daylight Time Samantha, there have been "sightings" of all kinds throughout history, it is you, and others of similar mindset (those who are inclined to believe in alien visitation, not that there is anything wrong with that) who classify

[CTRL] Chemtrails And Concentration Camps. 1/2

2000-05-27 Thread Nicky Molloy
Subject: Chemtrails And Concentration Camps. 1/2 -Original Message- From: John F. Winston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 27 May 2000 14:17 Subject: IUFO: Chemtrails And Concentration Camps. From: T N P Subject: REAL Bio/Chem Attacks Possible Late June This warning from USCMike1

[CTRL] Chemtrails And Concentration Camps. 2/2

2000-05-27 Thread Nicky Molloy
-Original Message- From: John F. Winston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 27 May 2000 14:22 Subject: IUFO: Chemtrails And Concentration Camps. Part 2 of 2. ... 25- But one set of doctors examined many vets and analyzed many different chemicals and organisms and discovered at

[CTRL] Fw:The Greatest Fraud in History

2000-05-27 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General
-Original Message- From: miroslava petrovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, May 25, 2000 2:51 AM Subject: Re: From Spasoje Vlajic book: The First World Anti-Christian War - Tesla's Discoveries in the Defense of Christianity

[CTRL] Guns v Airbags

2000-05-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
A small blurb in the Shreveport Times: Published: August 19, 1999 Author: n/a For those of you concerned about [ALL] school shootings, you might be interested to know that since 1993, 82 students have been murdered in shootings in schools (according to the National School Safety Center).

[CTRL] [1] Technology and Sightings of World War II

2000-05-27 Thread Para
PROJECT UFO W.A. Harbinson Chapter 3 [01] Technology and Sightings of World War II Before writing Genesis in the Projekt Saucer series, while researching a novel on World War II, I obtained through the Imperial War Museum, London, two short articles which attracted my attention. One was a

[CTRL] *Are Chemtrails Delivered By Airlines?

2000-05-27 Thread Nicky Molloy
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 27 May 2000 19:47 Subject: IUFO: *Are Chemtrails Delivered By Airlines? - IUFO Mailing List http://www.cosmiverse.com/paranormal052501.html *Are chemtrails delivered

Re: [CTRL] [prj] Millionaire Goldsmith supports the left and the extreme right

2000-05-27 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Dan Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: New Paradigms Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [prj] Millionaire Goldsmith supports the

Re: [CTRL] [1] Drug forfeure [ THE DRUG WAR IS A FAKE DESIGNED TO CONTROL AMERICANS RW]

2000-05-27 Thread Ronald L. Wilson
Thanks for the post Kris. The FAKE drug war is an age old devise utilized for the purpose of managing or controlling certain segments of a political entity. In this case "your" story rivets down the fact that it enables the "establishment": #1 to enable self serving authorities" to illegally

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Belgian Air Force doesn't think they could be man-made. The Belgian Air Force SAYS it doesn't THINK they could be man-made. To be even more precise, a television program supposedly alleged that the Belgian air force supposedly thinks that what was seen

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd never dream that my ideas are above criticism, and never once implied otherwise. I think the screech level that arises on this list when anyone brings up the subject of UFOs is quite telling. There's plenty of evidence, anecdotal and otherwise,

[CTRL] NASA Selects Cloverleaf for chem-trail spraying.

2000-05-27 Thread Nicky Molloy
This is connected too. Press Release - Matria Selects HIE for Clinical Enterprise System Project Even more on Cloverleaf http://www.matria.com/press/033000.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: (Mailing List 1) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (Mailing List 1)

[CTRL] NASA Selects Cloverleaf for chem-trail spraying.

2000-05-27 Thread name AOL USER
That the name CLOVERLEAF is used by a computerized healthcare company for a product line is not unusual, as trade-names are in short supply...I cannot see how you can make the connection to chem-trail spraying. If we were to assume that a trade-name has a hidden meaning, then we should avoid

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-27 Thread Ynr Chyldz Wyld
From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it. What 'evidence'? June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

[CTRL] Pollard to be released - Knesset Sends Blessings To Pollard (fwd)

2000-05-27 Thread Yardbird
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 22:58:21 + From: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Pollard to be "released" - Knesset Sends Blessings To Pollard ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D -

[CTRL] Jesus loses defamation suit

2000-05-27 Thread Tenorlove
Noted Without Comment: 'Jesus' Loses Defamation Suit Against Churches May 25, 2000 12:17 pm EST MUNICH, Germany (Reuters) - Three theologians representing Jesus Christ sued the Protestant and Roman Catholic churches for bringing his name into disrepute -- and lost in a German

Re: [CTRL] Posting limits and comments thereon

2000-05-27 Thread Tenorlove
--- nessie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, just going along with what whoever's in charge says is exactly the kind of behavior that got humanity into the mess it's in now. I see and concede your point, Nessie, but this has been going on for days now, and it's one of those

Re: [CTRL] Carter's Odd Almost Assassination.

2000-05-27 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
In a message dated 05/26/2000 6:37:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is historical fact that no serious policy changes were made and no sweeping changes were made in government. Carter remained indecisive in the public eye and by mid-November the following year, the

Re: [CTRL] DEFENDING AMERICA NEWSLETTER 24 May 2000 Part 2

2000-05-27 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
In a message dated 05/26/2000 6:45:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote!

Re: [CTRL] Top Forecasters Say Gore Will Win With 53-60% Of The Vote

2000-05-27 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
In a message dated 05/26/2000 8:48:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You didn't realize that Gore has won the election? A technicality. According to half a dozen political scientists who have honed and polished the art of election forecasting, the die is all but cast.

[CTRL] Reparations Now? (fwd)

2000-05-27 Thread Yardbird
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:55:34 + From: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reparations Now? ___ __ / |/ / /___/ / /_ //M I D - E A S T R E A L I T I E S / /|_/ / /_/_

Re: [CTRL] Pollard to be released - Knesset Sends Blessings To Pollard (fwd)

2000-05-27 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
In a message dated 05/27/2000 8:25:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But even so its hard not to see what's happening here. One guy will be getting a Presidential pardon and will then return a hero with, by the way, a very sizeable bank account the Israelis have been

[CTRL] What's going on with RM News?

2000-05-27 Thread Tenorlove
I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is the Reply To: address given for the emails, and it bounced back with this message, "User Unknown: Mailbox Not Found." Have "they" gotten to the site? Tenorlove __ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party

[CTRL] [prj] Millionaire Goldsmith supports the left and the extreme right

2000-05-27 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: New Paradigms Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [prj] Millionaire Goldsmith supports the left and the extreme right Date:

[CTRL] NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR REMARKS TO THE BILDERBERG STEERING COMMITTEE - And My Comments

2000-05-27 Thread Kris Millegan
from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:617734"NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR REMARKS TO THE BILDERBERG STEERING COMMITTEE - And My Comments/A - Subject: NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR REMARKS TO THE BILDERBERG STEERING COMMITTEE - And

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
[ a bit of a contradiction and she had a DNA marker that has not existed on this planet for a Very long time. How can anyone know this. To know this there would have to be very old dna with which to compare. absolutely wrong there - and stop trying to be scientific - it doesn't work [all of

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
thanks samantha - I was going to use the china argument - if you've never been there and touched it - how do you know it physically exists. This is PURE BULLSHIT. And stupid to boot. You KNOW China exists and so do the rest of us. The existence of China is an agreed upon fact. If you doubt

[CTRL] OEN 5/27/00

2000-05-27 Thread Kris Millegan
from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Digital Society DOJ Wages War on Net Drugs by Declan McCullagh WASHINGTON -- Internet shoppers, look out: The next time you buy from an overseas pharmacy, you might

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: It was a blond chinese person You're not talking about those mummies that turned up in the desert not long ago, are you? Those were Celts. I'm a Celt; lemme tell you a little about the tribe. Despite long standing rumors to the contrary we Celts are actually

[CTRL] CIA-DRUGS SYMPOSIUM IN EUGENE, OR 6/10/200

2000-05-27 Thread Kris Millegan
MEDIA RELEASE May 26, 2000Contact:Kris Millegan For Immediate Release Conference Organizer 541.935.6276 -- www.ctrl.org/ciadrugssymp osium/ CIA-DRUGS SYMPOSIUM IN EUGENE CALENDAR LISTING: Saturday, June 10, 8

Re: [CTRL] UFO should not necessarily imply ET ?

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
At 06:32 AM 27, 05, , 2000 -0400, you wrote: From: "Samantha L." [EMAIL PROTECTED] Um... I think some of them are flown by extra-dimensional or extra-terrestrial life, yes. There is evidence for it. What 'evidence'? June The best evidence I have ever seen for the existence of non-human

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: stop trying to be scientific - it doesn't work Oh no? Explain please. The definition of what a human is is not ambiguous. oh, so you're the missing link then ? How does this follow? Your logic here eludes me. I am saying that UFOs and ETs are

[CTRL] Forfeiture and Seizure Series

2000-05-27 Thread Alamaine
From http://www.kcstar.com/projects/drugforfeit/index.html Note: I added the linques' addresses (they're there, but are 'hot') AER }}Begin Taking Custody Into Cash This series of articles from The Kansas City Star's projects desk is the second examination Star reporter Karen Dillon has made of

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
stop trying to be scientific - it doesn't work Oh no? Explain please. nurev concluded that the dna markers identified in the australian abduction could not be old human because we didn't have any old human dna. He could have realised that genetics is advanced enough to know what all the old

[CTRL] DNA Sample From Abduction Case Raises Big Questions

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
Alien Abductions DNA Sample http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/abduct077.html http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/abduct.html DNA Sample From Abduction Case Raises Big Questions Mystery

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: You're giving me heresay - he could've been lying - and here I find myself repeating the same arguments you used against heresay in an earlier thread. I said, and I quote, "If you want to touch China, go touch China." You can do that if you want. Can I go

Re: [CTRL] Guns v Airbags

2000-05-27 Thread Richard Sampson
Does anyone know how many children are killed by mothers in a typical year? MICHAEL SPITZER wrote: A small blurb in the Shreveport Times: Published: August 19, 1999 Author: n/a For those of you concerned about [ALL] school shootings, you might be interested to know that since 1993, 82

[CTRL] Taiwan Satellite Spy Facility

2000-05-27 Thread William Shannon
US Helps Taiwan Erect Satellite Spy Facility Taipei (AFP) May 23, 2000 - The Taiwanese military is building a ground station to receive China data collected by US spy satellites, reports said Tuesday, as Taipei continued to monitor signs of mainland military movement. Once armed with the

Re: [CTRL] DNA Sample From Abduction Case Raises Big Questions

2000-05-27 Thread nessie
That's an intriguing story. But it's not the actual code. Let's see the actual code. And who, exactly, is the "Anomaly Physical Evidence Group"? Where, precisely, are they located? Has any other lab duplicated their results and drawn the same conclusions? Which lab might that be? How may we

Re: [CTRL] Massive ChemTrails Over Yakima, Wash.

2000-05-27 Thread Marilyn Wright
Just a thought--- Maybe these "chemtrails" have something to do with weather engineeringcreating drought and flood and damaging the nation's agriculture so that Monsanto and the AgriCorps can have their way with us. Here in the NE it's been too wet for farmers to plant their fields and many

[CTRL] Title 18 United States Code, Sect. 1501, which states:

2000-05-27 Thread Bard
SATURDAYMAY 272000 Reno dodges Elian lawsuit papers Judicial Watch: Evading process server in $100 million case illegal By Jon E. Dougherty© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Attorneys for Judicial Watch have

Re: [CTRL] Guns v Airbags

2000-05-27 Thread Tenorlove
I suppose we could just ban everything and spend our lives hiding in little boxes. and then die of boredom instead of everything. --- Richard Sampson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how many children are killed by mothers in a typical year? MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:

[CTRL] Elites uber alles: Council of the Americas

2000-05-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Council of the Americas - The NEW Trilateral Commission Same old wine, different bottle. -- Joshua2 Declaration of the Council of the Americas May1, 2000 The Council of the Americas, meeting in Washington, D.C. on the occasion of the Council's

Re: [CTRL] You are a fraud.

2000-05-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research
yair davidi wrote: At 10:59 PM 5/23/00 -0400, you wrote: 5/23/00 It's over now Yair. Genetics have put an end to your con game. No more extracting book money from those pathetic Biblical Israelite wannabes. You should be made to pay back every penny you got from these idiots. you are

[CTRL] [Fwd: [Eternera] [Fwd: MI6 link to Lockerbie briefings Milosevic assassination]]

2000-05-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Original Message Subject: [Eternera] [Fwd: MI6 link to Lockerbie briefings Milosevic assassination] Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:15:35 +0300 From: Maria Dimitriadou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Eternera Mailing List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[CTRL] Wierd News

2000-05-27 Thread Carl Amedio
A 26-year-old woman started an agency to say prayers for people too busy to say their own (at $1.50 a day and up) (Milan, Italy). A woman was convicted of arranging for her lover to get a penile implant using her estranged husband's health insurance (New York City). A 20-year-old, brand-new

[CTRL] Fw: [RMNEWS] The One World Monetary Cabal -- by GUNTHER RUSSBACHER

2000-05-27 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andy Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jdulaney (by way of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Stepard)) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 5/27/00 5:53:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To be even more precise, a television program supposedly alleged that the Belgian air force supposedly thinks that what was seen could not have been formed by earthly technology. No names of anyone in

[CTRL] Biological and Chemical TerrorismStrategic Plan for Preparedness and Response.h

2000-05-27 Thread Michael Pugliese
Biological and Chemical Terrorism:Strategic Plan for Preparedness and Response 5/17/00 April 21, 2000 / 49(RR04);1-14 Biological and Chemical Terrorism:Strategic Plan for Preparedness and Response Recommendations of the CDC Strategic Planning Workgroup The following CDC staff members prepared

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 5/27/00 10:46:43 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Despite long standing rumors to the contrary we Celts are actually mere mortals. We're a little smarter than the average mortal, and definitely better looking, but we're mortals nonetheless. Oh, the

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Samantha L.
In a message dated 5/27/00 11:05:50 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We can indeed touch China. I personally know a guy who did it. Show us the forensic evidence, please. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

[CTRL] Why the Declaration of Independence matters

2000-05-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[I wonder who might be behind this, who might want to keep our children from having any deep seated values regarding any past[AND FUTURE] struggle for our guaranteed freedoms?? --MS] From: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_keyes/2527_xcake_why_declar.shtml Why the Declaration of

[CTRL] PRIDE: main cause of hatred and disunity in society; also a major sin.

2000-05-27 Thread Bard
(couldn't have said it better myself. be certain you read the Section below: "World Gay [homo] Pride" Thursday May 25 9:59 AM ET Pope Insists on Catholic Opposition to Gay MarriagesBy Philip Pullella VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope John Paul II reaffirmed the Roman Catholic Church's

[CTRL] Would the real idiot please stand up?

2000-05-27 Thread Franklin Wayne Poley
yair davidi wrote: you are the idiot not they. J2 replied cogently: It may be. Or it might be. Perhaps it could be. and... OTHERWISE YOU FRAUD. and... This isn't about racial purity. and... ... you are basically throwing shit up at the ceiling and what sticks is your theory.

[CTRL] Texas Schools Sued For Trashing Bibles

2000-05-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
School sued for 'trashing' Bibles Lawsuit claims teacher threw students' holy books in garbage By Jon E. Dougherty © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Officials at the Lynn Lucas Middle School in Willis, Texas, have been served with a lawsuit filed on behalf of three students who allege that one teacher

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: Do you have any documentation to back that up, or are we supposed to take your word for it? You can check up on the mortality of Celts by looking over the surnames on tombstones at your local graveyard. If you really wanna be really, really sure you can dig

[CTRL] CIA TWA VIDEO

2000-05-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
[We always knew that the CIA cartoon video was nothing but an effort to discredit all the eyewitnesses who saw a streak of light, but appendix FF to the NTSB's eyewitness reports proves it. --MS] May 26, 2000 OFFICIAL LIES ON TWA 800 EXPOSED by Reed Irvine The recently released FBI reports

[CTRL] Media Bias (fwd)

2000-05-27 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 09:01:47 -0700 From: DOC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Media Bias After you read the story from the Washington Post (which I believe has already been posted to CAS, then read the tidbits from the San Jose Mercury News. The

[CTRL] A LONG OVERDUE FLOURIDE APOLOGY

2000-05-27 Thread ATB XX
BULLETIN # 18 Dec. 6, 1999 DR. HARDY LIMEBACK'S APOLOGY Dear All, Jeff green forwarded us this article, and says: We had pre-arranged with Barry Forbes to obtain his permission to reproduce this column throughout the world. We hope that if you find his writing style and the

[CTRL] Check out this site!

2000-05-27 Thread ATB XX
Looking through old "info bins and folders" and stumbled across this old site, when it says "we outgrew..." follow the links, it is worth the trip! I had forgotten how much valuable knowledge was stored here, these folks have a level head and have done their homework.

[CTRL] Fwd: EU to debate copyright law, from May 27, 2000 Edupage (fwd)

2000-05-27 Thread Yardbird
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 03:11:50 -0700 From: "Mike M." [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: EU to debate copyright law, from May 27, 2000 Edupage Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:04:48 -0600 From: EDUCAUSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...]

[CTRL] Frank Luntz

2000-05-27 Thread William Shannon
Why should we trust this man? Frank Luntz is king of the pollster pundits, but don't ask him where his numbers come from. - - - - - - - - - - - - By Dante Chinni May 26, 2000 | WASHINGTON -- Whatever it is about the pollster Frank Luntz -- the baby face, the unctuous charm, the ever-changing

[CTRL] NATO's Environmental War: Voices from Canada

2000-05-27 Thread DIG alfred webre
From Janet M Eaton, PhD: Dear All: Further to my post of Wednesday May 24th entitled "Adrienne Clarkson Honoring Gen Wesley Clark?? + [WILPF letter]" - I forward three more letters of concern to the Governor General of Canada appealing to her to reconsider her decision to award the

[CTRL] The Phillip Schneider Investigation

2000-05-27 Thread DIG alfred webre
From IUFO: The Phillip Schneider Investigation Phil Schneider was liquidated just prior to releasing a tell-all book. He had a Rhyolite clearance ~ the highest ever to come out and tell it like it is. The "Esoteric World News" printed much about Phil Schneider a couple years back ~ including

[CTRL] Feinstein Sweeps Crowd With AK-47

2000-05-27 Thread K
Feinstein Sweeps Crowd With AK-47 Shocking but not surprising... The story U.S. Senator Feinstein was promoting at the anti-gun news conference made all the big papers and TV networks. But you had to be there to see the incident that stole the show. Forth Worth Star-Telegram columnist Jill

[CTRL] Nader's slugging it out with the party duopoly.

2000-05-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research
=== Here's a democrat for President! Nader's slugging it out with the party duopoly by Jim Hightower As most of us know by now, the Republicrat two-party duopoly is squeezing the life out of our democratic system. The majority

Re: [CTRL] NYP: Morris-WHO KNOCKED OUT RUDY? (fwd)

2000-05-27 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 05/22/2000 11:23:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Clintons would never be so crass as to leave their fingerprints on this dirty trick. They would do it through one of their operatives, lawyers, donors, consultants, staffers or henchmen. Just like

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread DIG alfred webre
OK - Here is what the former French heads of NASA, Air Force, etc say in their reality-shattering 1999 Cometa report, holding that the extraterrestrial hypothesis has significant support. What follows is a summary by a French scientist. The 500 cases in the report are hard evidence. Ufology is

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread DIG alfred webre
A summary of the 1999 French Cometa report, with 500 hard cases supporting the extraterrestrial hypothesis. Alfred Lambremont Webre, Vancouver, BC = http://www.cninews.com/CNI_French.html The French Report on UFOs and Defence : a short presentation

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread nessie
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: List members engaging in this thread are at a disadvantage, because they are victims of a covert information war by the USA government to suppress facts of the extraterrestrial presence. Possibly, but it is far more likely that the covert information war

Re: [CTRL] Would the real idiot please stand up?

2000-05-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: yair davidi wrote: you are the idiot not they. J2 replied cogently: It may be. Or it might be. Perhaps it could be. and... OTHERWISE YOU FRAUD. and... This isn't about racial purity. and... ... you are basically throwing shit up at the

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Nurev Ind Research
Andrew Hennessey wrote: thanks samantha - I was going to use the china argument - if you've never been there and touched it - how do you know it physically exists. This is PURE BULLSHIT. And stupid to boot. You KNOW China exists and so do the rest of us. The existence of China is an

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-05-27 21:13:12 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Possibly, but it is far more likely that the covert information war is aimed at convincing us that there IS an extraterrestrial presence by using reverse psychology. What could be more convincing to people who mistrust the

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread DIG alfred webre
In a message dated 00-05-27 21:43:19 EDT, you write: No,actually it doesn't. The " reality " of China, and the "reality " of ETs are NOT coequal. I can claim that tooth faeries are as real as lug nut. But that doesn't make it so. Deal with this reality from French fighter pilots and 500

[CTRL] Lockheed Martin's Unmanned Bomber?

2000-05-27 Thread William Shannon
ROBOFALCON -- -- By Steve Douglass Someone at Lockheed Martin, Ft Worth had a good idea. Maybe it went something like this. Two aircraft engineers stand in a near empty hangar staring at a dust covered F-16 A . They

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence. . .TONE DOWN PERSONAL ATTACKS

2000-05-27 Thread tenebroust
J2, you know I agree with you about evidence and proof and that calling evidence or information that is unsatisfactory BULLSHIT is quite aright, BUT please tone down your personal comments towards Andrew and Samantha. We can all get a lot further if we don't attack each other, even by

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread tenebroust
I think the point is missed here Andrew. We both DON'T know that ET's exist, (UFO's exist absolutely) we do both know that China exists, thus there is a conflict and this argument does not hold water. What evidence is there that UFO's (and I mean any of them) are physical craft, being

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread tenebroust
This post is a good example of fair treatment and good natured back and forth dialogue without the personal affronts. Incidentally I agree with Nessie and say PLEASE tell us what you have, and point us to the references that you have intrigued us with in this post! I would also point out that

[CTRL] Fw: 17 Aug 2000 - WORLD GATHERING

2000-05-27 Thread Rory Winter
Subject: 17 August 2000 - The WORLD GATHERING*Please send this e-mail around the WORLDI M P O R T A N TPlease pass this information around the world as soon as possible*1 7 A U G U S T 2 0 0 0T h e W O R L D G A T H E R I N G It's time to change the worldT O G E T H E R, WE CAN DO ITWhat

[CTRL] the problem with aliens

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
We've had Hollywood churn out X-files, Independence Day, Dark Skies, Progeny, Galaxy Quest - and somehow the goverment history factory called hollywood has provided the anxious and stressed - 'future shocked' - planet - with the explanations that their exhausted, hysterical and battered

[CTRL] Highway Interdiction Program

2000-05-27 Thread lloyd
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: Lloyd Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Highway Interdiction Program Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 7:45 AM From: The Extremist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: The

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread tenebroust
In this quote below from the Belgian report summary posted by Alfred there is stated that various phenomena that are "non-scientific" are dismissed. Why is this? What criteria did they use to decide this? It closes down a whole avenue of research in favor of the idea of "aliens". This does

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Andrew Hennessey
At 07:39 PM 27, 05, , 2000 -0700, you wrote: I think the point is missed here Andrew. We both DON'T know that ET's exist, (UFO's exist absolutely) we do both know that China exists, thus there is a conflict and this argument does not hold water. I've never been there, to China, never touched it

Re: [CTRL] Alien Presence? Evidence. .

2000-05-27 Thread Nicky Molloy
Nessie, You don't speak for all the Celts. You are still trying to figure out if there are even aliens, yet you are inplying you are above average intelliegence. On the other hand Andrew and I have both had extensive personal dealings with Ets and written books on this. We are termed 'Celt'. In

[CTRL] CAN BELIEF IN UFO's AND ASCENSION CAUSE YOUR CHILDREN TO BE TAKEN FROM YOU?

2000-05-27 Thread v2o
CAN BELIEF IN UFO's AND ASCENSION CAUSE YOUR CHILDREN TO BE TAKEN FROM YOU? http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/custody_news1.html PLEASE DISTRIBUTE FAR AND WIDE Surfing The Apocalypse interview is being used as evidence against a Mother in her child custody case. May 27, 1000 By Theresa de

[CTRL] GUN LAWS ARE FOR EVERYONE BUT ME

2000-05-27 Thread Bill Richer
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[CTRL] Fw: [firebase-news] Fw: memorialday

2000-05-27 Thread Bard
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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] The GOP: Clinton's Bag Boys

2000-05-27 Thread Bill Richer
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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Bush Leaves Conservatives Breathless

2000-05-27 Thread Bill Richer
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Dear Brigade, "The

[CTRL] [Fwd: [RMNEWS] UFO BELIEFS USED AGAINST MOTHER IN CUSTODY CASE]

2000-05-27 Thread v2o
Original Message Subject: [RMNEWS] UFO BELIEFS USED AGAINST MOTHER IN CUSTODY CASE Date: Sun, 28 May 2000 00:56:20 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY=== UFO BELIEFS USED AGAINST MOTHER