Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism

2003-06-17 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- i perceive a typically polarized argument going on here, so i'm going to interject some comments... just because i'm so damn sick and tired of both sides of the left-right culture war!!! On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 12:07 PM, Zuukie wrote: -Caveat Lector- I sent Mark's post

Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism

2003-06-18 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- i'll check out these references. i'm not strongly endorsing macdonald; however having read some criticsm and counter-criticism, i'm not convinced he's anti-semitic. in fact, his academic work is devoted to ethnic particularism in general, and he has studied other diasporic

Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism

2003-06-18 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 11:12 AM, Zuukie wrote: A great deal of the wealth created by the American capitalist economy has been accomplished by taking control of third world nations (see the references below), robbing their natural resources, installing murderous

Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism

2003-06-18 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 08:25 AM, flw wrote: -Caveat Lector- One of the first things the Nazis did was to murder every socialist they could find. When leftists talk about socialism today they mean DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM, with workers (including managers) having democratic

Re: [CTRL] Why most Americans are unable to perceive and protest America's slide into fascism

2003-06-18 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 12:21 PM, Brian Salter wrote: regime. this connection is particularly notable in the writings of vilfredo pareto, a theorist who was influential in the development of fascism. oops, i didn't mean to say Pareto... i was thinking of Georges Sorel

Re: [CTRL] More discussion on Fascism and Socialism

2003-06-23 Thread Brian Salter
On Sunday, June 22, 2003, at 11:06 PM, Zuukie wrote: One of the first things the Nazis did was to murder every socialist they could find. When leftists talk about socialism today they mean DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM,     [Internet Wizards] This is simply not true. The Nazis were proud to claim their

[CTRL] The Goddess Has No Clothes

2003-07-06 Thread Brian Salter
http://www.debunker.com/texts/PGDavis2.html The Goddess Has No Clothes Goddess Unmasked by Philip G. Davis ISBN 0-9653208-9-8. 418 pp., $29.95. (Dallas: Spence Publishing Co., 1998 ) Reviewed by Robert Sheaffer (Originally published in The Skeptical Inquirer May,/June, 1999, Vol. 23:3, p.

[CTRL] JP Morgan Chase question

2003-07-10 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- a somewhat esoteric question: david rockefeller used to be the chairman of the chase manhattan bank international advisory committee. george schultz now is the chair of the jp morgan chase international council. in light of the fact of the merger a few years back, does anyone

[CTRL] Trotsky Wall St. (excerpt from 'Treason')

2003-07-20 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- Excerpt from Treason--The New World Order (Gurudas, 1996) From Chapter VII: Early Signs of Treason, pp. 79-81 There are numerous incidents in the 20th century that show how dangerous the bankers and corporate elite are. Carroll Quigley described how international financiers

[CTRL] W. R. Plumme on Rothschilds the world bankers

2003-07-20 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- (apologies for typos -- bad scanning) excerpt from The Untold History by William R. Plumme pp. 113-119 The purpose of Weishaupt 's Illuminati was to undermine the formantions of Western Civilizatios (i.e., belief in God and HIS Moral Law), and to prepare the way, first, for

Re: [CTRL] People's Commission/Organizing Meetings in NY SF

2002-12-20 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- my apologies to the list and to kris; my last message was not meant to be sent to the list. -brian A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed.

Re: [CTRL] A Baseball Conspiracy?

2003-01-17 Thread Brian Salter
Title: Re: [CTRL] A Baseball Conspiracy? -Caveat Lector- so, might this be a hint why the early bonesmen were apparently so keen on baseball?!? a quick search revealed... the numbers began to be standardized under the direction of yale graduate daniel lucius adams, now increasingly

[CTRL] Iraq WMD discovery in progress?

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- An anonymous report from a few days back, and I'm not aware of any further verification, but I think this should be forwarded widely just as a precaution... -brian

[CTRL] Re: [CTRL] Masters prefer to milk the old, which generates profit and give them control

2004-05-07 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On May 2, 2004, at 9:05 PM, Kris Millegan wrote: Like Nazism, Communism, and Prussianism, groups, like S B and Bohemian Grove are based on statist Hegelian idealism, the precise opposite of our ideal of Constitutional liberty and individual rights. The Owl of Minerva is the

[CTRL] New at QQ: Critique of 9/11 no plane theories

2004-05-19 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- New at questionsquestions.net: an analysis by Eric Salter, refuting several widely-circulated claims about the WTC airliner impacts on 9/11. These include the claims that original video recordings of the impacts were fabricated or altered using computer graphics, that aircraft

[CTRL] QQ update: no-planers respond, Eric Salter continues critique

2004-05-28 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- Part 2 of The WTC Impacts: 767s or 'Whatzits' has been posted at questionsquestions.net. Eric Salter counters rebuttals from Webfairy and Scott Loughrey: http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/767orwhatzit2.html Part 1: http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/767orwhatzit.html

[CTRL] Oil cartel, price fixing, fake shortage

2004-06-13 Thread Brian Salter
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3123oil_speculation.html This article appears in the June 11, 2004 issue of Executive Intelligence Review. LaRouche: Bankrupt Speculators With $25 Per Barrel Oil by Richard Freeman and John Hoefle [Note: Figures and tables in this article are available

Re: [CTRL] IRAQ AND VIETNAM

2003-11-03 Thread Brian Salter
On Monday, November 3, 2003, at 01:01 PM, David Sutherland wrote:   The alleged founder of the Illuminati, himself a former student of the Catholic Jesuits himself repelled by their dogmatism, one Adam Weishaupt, was stigmatized by Barruel whom he labelled a human devil.   The Supremacist Aryan

Re: [CTRL] IRAQ AND VIETNAM LaRouche

2003-11-05 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- an email that begins with a pointless and puerile attack on my choice of typing without capitals, and ends with a long quote from a hatchet-piece by chip berlet, a known disinfo asset and apologist for the US ruling establishment, pretty much shows where you're coming from. if you

[CTRL] LaRouche - The Yiddish Renaissance and Its Enemies

2003-11-05 Thread Brian Salter
the following article may be interesting to those who are convinced that lyndon larouche runs an anti-semitic organization. many more articles on israel, david ben-gurion, early non-fascist zionism, etc, can be found at http://www.cecaust.com.au/culture/jewish/part5.htm The Lessons of Wartime

[CTRL] Chip Berlet's apologist defence of ADL spying on US citizens

2003-11-05 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- an early report on a case which didn't end up well for the ADL... The ADL Spy Probe from Alexander Cockburn's Beat the Devil, a bi-weekly column in The Nation. May 31, 1993 There have been fears that political pressure might squelch the case against the Anti-Defamation League

[CTRL] Chaitkin: America's 'Young America' movement: slaveholders and the B'nai B'rith

2003-11-05 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- anton chaitkin continues the tradition of his nazi-hunting father with this research into the pro-confederate, pro-racist origins of the b'nai b'rith: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/conf-iclc/1990s/ conf_feb_1994_chaitkin.html America's 'Young America' movement: slaveholders and

[CTRL] EVANS: WHO IS THIS LAROUCHE AND WHAT DOES HE WANT?

2003-11-05 Thread Brian Salter
here is a rare fair-minded critique of larouche, with no hysterics: WHO IS THIS LAROUCHE AND WHAT DOES HE WANT? BY MARK EVANS Buried in the Lyndon LaRouche/U.S. Labor Party file at the Data Center, the off-Broadway media/research outlet on 19th Street in Oakland, is a curious document dated

[CTRL] Larouche vs. Jesuits Synarchists

2003-11-07 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- the following article is of interest as it is a clear refutation of recent spurious disinfo claims that larouche is pro-jesuit, and that his opposition to the synarchist movement is a cypher for anti-semitism. here, jesuits are identified as being behind synarchist efforts to

Re: [CTRL] Bush The Nazis: New Documents

2003-11-29 Thread Brian Salter
On Saturday, November 29, 2003, at 03:09 AM, William Shannon wrote: http://www.guerrillanews.com/corporate_crime/doc3469.html Bush and the Nazis: New Documents Herbert Parmet,  November 26, 2003 The link for Anton Chaitkin in the article above turns up this interesting recent letter to the

Re: [CTRL] PSYOP to convince people to submit to microchip implantation

2004-07-14 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- From: norgesen . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: July 13, 2004 9:37:05 PM GMT+07:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [cia-drugs] PSYOP to convince people to submit to microchip implantation Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Caveat Lector- 7/12/2004 JAPAN:

Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Apology to Brian Salter, re John Gray

2004-08-14 Thread Brian Salter
didn't exist. Original Message Subject: Re: Nico Haupt on 911truth cointelpro Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:17:38 +0700 From: Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] webfairy, i can imagine that one of the things you like about those statements from nico concerning john

Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Fwd: [CTRL] Fwd: In Plane Site based on disparaged but not discredited evidence ...

2004-08-15 Thread Brian Salter
. these things are up to the jury in the end. I will be most interested to see if the various slanders against my work, against In Plane Site, and against Phil Jayhan are retracted by rabidnitwitz and crew. To simply turn the guns on Brian Salter instead is not enough, as the connections

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [cia-drugs] Fwd: [CTRL] Webfairy

2004-08-21 Thread Brian Salter
On Aug 22, 2004, at 5:11 AM, Kris Millegan wrote: In a message dated 8/21/04 10:20:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My first enlargements, made by opening the Taner video in Quicktime Pro maximized on my desktop, are still hanging at http://thewebfairy.com/whatzit This is a lie.  The

Re: [CTRL] Webfairy

2004-08-23 Thread Brian Salter
On Aug 23, 2004, at 7:58 PM, Adam Bruce wrote: x-tad-bigger-Caveat Lector- /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerWhile I do not doubt what you have provided here, I would like to state something for clarity's sake:/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger /x-tad-bigger x-tad-biggerIf Webfairy got

Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Fwd: [CTRL] Webfairy

2004-08-24 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Aug 24, 2004, at 2:33 AM, The Webfairy wrote: All it takes to see the backup frame is to look at Eric Salter's excellent and supurb enlargements. His rendition also has the flash frame mysteriously missing from some versions. ... This is a work in progress.

Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy

2004-08-24 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Aug 24, 2004, at 7:37 PM, The Webfairy wrote: I'm not disproven. yeah, of course not, because instead of admitting your mistakes you just deliberately morph your theories to fit, a deliberately contrived attempt to keep critics running around in circles, forced to keep coming up

Re: [CTRL] [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Webfairy

2004-08-25 Thread Brian Salter
On Aug 25, 2004, at 4:10 PM, The Webfairy wrote: If the claim is Eric's source file is the commercially available version of the NAUDET DVD, I'm saying NO WAY. NO WAY IN HELL> I haven't found any description of his techniques, or his source. The footage is filtered, beautifully, wonderfully

Re: [CTRL] [political-research] A Challenge to the Abiotic Oil Camp

2004-09-03 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Sep 3, 2004, at 9:39 AM, Vigilius Haufniensis wrote: VMANN: is there evidence of an oil shortage? 'peak oil' is covering 'neocon' tracks. 'peak oil' advocates claim that US mideast policy is designed around keeping cheap oil flowing. well, why is the US secretly bombing iraq

[CTRL] fyi, demoulins answers olmholt ground effect claims

2004-09-06 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- this is a response from j.p. desmoulins concerning claims from ralph olmholt (http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm) that the aerodynamic ground effect would prevent a 757 from getting low enough to the ground to strike the pentagon at the impact area. (one thing not

[CTRL] New 9/11 video evidence analysis at QQ

2004-09-09 Thread Brian Salter
://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/hoax.html Brian Salter, questionsquestions.net www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy

Re: [CTRL] NSA FTL Communications

2002-03-29 Thread Brian Salter
and fear. This is a nation being transformed before our very eyes. -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] F-16s Pursue Unknown Craft Over Capitol

2002-07-28 Thread Brian Salter
://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8131-2002Jul26.html ~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.questionsquestions.net ~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL

Re: [CTRL] Red (Chinese) Dawn

2002-02-25 Thread Brian Salter
is that it appears as though China is going to stand while the United States is imploded, unless things change quickly. Bates -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org

Re: [CTRL] Red (Chinese) Dawn

2002-02-26 Thread Brian Salter
-- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds

[CTRL] new 9/11 web site

2002-02-26 Thread Brian Salter
. -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing

Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor

2002-02-27 Thread Brian Salter
in Vietnam and who is now fighting to save politics from corruption by special interests. -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL

Re: [CTRL] John McCain, Traitor

2002-02-27 Thread Brian Salter
i joined this list for. -brian -Caveat Lector- On 27 Feb 2002 at 17:18, Brian Salter wrote: may i ask, what does this have to do with conspiracy theory research? We play this little game here called connect the dots. The Secret to the game is to get dots. Now, on some topix there might

[CTRL] Fwd: ENRONITIS - A COMMUNICABLE DISEASE

2002-03-03 Thread Brian Salter
received. -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~

[CTRL] Fwd: [prj] [****] Democracy As Tyranny (review of Democracy: The God That Failed)

2002-03-03 Thread Brian Salter
* -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds

[CTRL] transcript: alex jones interview with greg palast

2002-03-09 Thread Brian Salter
. CopyrightÝ Alex Jones Radio Show, 2002. Reprinted for Fair use only. The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/PAL203A.html -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL

Re: [CTRL] Ruppert Takes AlterNet to Task - re: When 9/11 Conspiracies Go Bad

2002-03-10 Thread Brian Salter
: And Now, Will the Real Skeptic Please Stand Up? http://www.mindspring.com/~briansalter/questions/real_skeptic.html -- ~~~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~

Re: [CTRL] Zionists

2002-09-13 Thread Brian Salter
that the pilots didn't black out under those conditions. If I didn't know better, I'd imagine that the planes were being remotely controlled... ~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.questionsquestions.net ~ A HREF=http

Re: [CTRL] How did he do that?

2002-09-13 Thread Brian Salter
as calling aluminum, al-you-min-ee-um. Seems like an educational deficiency to me. - ~ Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.questionsquestions.net

[CTRL] Alternative Media Censorship: Sponsored by CIA's Ford Foundation?

2002-09-17 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- new at questionsquestions.net: - ALTERNATIVE MEDIA CENSORSHIP: SPONSORED BY CIA's FORD FOUNDATION? by bob feldman The multi-billion dollar Ford Foundation's historic relationship to the Central Intelligence

[CTRL] QQ: Bob Feldman and Brian Salter reply to a reader

2002-09-21 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- new from questionsquestions: Bob Feldman and Brian Salter reply to a reader Hello, I saw and appreciated your essay on the foundational support for Left orgs and writers that dismiss anything that smacks

[CTRL] QQ: Alternative media paymasters: Carlyle, Alcoa, Xerox, Coca Cola...?

2002-10-02 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- new at questionsquestions.net: Alternative media paymasters: Carlyle, Alcoa, Xerox, Coca Cola...? by Brian Salter 30 September 2002 The Ford Foundation, historically closely linked to the CIA and the military-industrial-academic complex, has in recent years provided

[CTRL] QQ: Updates to Feldman's ALTERNATIVE MEDIA CENSORSHIP

2002-10-02 Thread Brian Salter
://www.questionsquestions.net/feldman/ford_sb.html commentary: Bob Feldman and Brian Salter reply to a reader http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs0209/0920_response.html - note: If you do not wish to be included on further mailings

[CTRL] QQ: 2 new articles by Bob Feldman + Max Kolskegg 9/11 in Context

2002-10-10 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- new at questionsquestions: 2 new articles by Bob Feldman -- TIME FOR FORD FOUNDATION AND CFR TO DIVEST? Like MIT and Harvard University, the Ford Foundation and the Council on Foreign Relations [CFR] also may invest in Big Oil stock, U.S. war machine stock, and in the stock of

Re: [CTRL] People's Commission/Organizing Meetings in NY SF

2002-12-17 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- hey kris, this message may be unnecessary, but i wanted to check with you about the consorts list since i think i neglected to mention to you that it is normally a private list. if you checked with carol before forwarding this, then of course it's fine. i don't think i

[CTRL] Riley / von Kleist disinfo ops

2004-10-08 Thread Brian Salter
since posting a critique of the video 911 in plane site, from dave von kleist and joyce riley of 'powerhour', to my site (questionsquestions.net), i've been informed by a few people about a controversy over their role in gulf war vets' issues and gulf war illness. they have been facing

Re: [CTRL] [911truthalliance] 100 Respected US Leaders Families Demand 9/11 Investigation ! Respected Lead

2004-10-27 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Oct 27, 2004, at 2:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Virginia Deane Abernethy, Ph.D., anthropologist, author, Population Politics i'm delighted to see that the racial eugenics / population reduction movement is getting ever more promotion by the 911 truth movement! abernethy is on

[CTRL] URL for my previous post

2004-10-27 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- RE: http://www.911Truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633 www.ctrl.org DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and

Re: [CTRL] [911truthalliance] Re: V. Abernethy

2004-10-28 Thread Brian Salter
-Caveat Lector- On Oct 27, 2004, at 9:30 PM, Michael Kane wrote: Agreed entirely. This persons endorsement should be purged from the petition. I suggest people just do a quick review of this website http://theoccidentalquarterly.com and decide for yourself. It only took me 5 minutes to make up my

[CTRL] Fwd: [911truthalliance] Kane Responds to Thorn's Attack on Ruppert

2004-12-11 Thread Brian Salter
Begin forwarded message: From: Brian Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: December 10, 2004 7:59:56 PM PST To: Michael Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 911 Truthalliance [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Riseup. Net [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [911truthalliance] Kane Responds to Th