Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Jul 01, at 7:05, c. wrote: the initial article backing up his spurious claim was not the reference article of someone who has been studying this subject for over 30 years :) The fact is that anyone that can read these books and botany know what I have written is true. I

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread iggy
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. How do you know? Did you try? Or are you

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- On 4 Jul 01, at 7:05, c. wrote: the initial

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Increasing the concentration say 50 percent of something a, that exists at less that 0.5 percent, only gives you 0.75 percent. I wasn’t talking about increasing the concentration. The concentration is irrelevant. I was talking about increasing the number of flowers, and

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? you'd only get high if you smoke six bales. That wasn't my question. Answer my question. How do you know? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 7:38:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stop smoking so much though, you're starting to sound paranoid and nasty. It tends to do that if you smoke too much, but you cannot accept that because your favorite drug is perfect and the more you smoke to

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Nessie wrote: -Caveat Lector- If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little effect on the amount of THC. The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will go

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- know that this is done How do you know? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 10:27:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. Again if you

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-04 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd) Since it is mostly the leaves that people smoke, some growers

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 2 Jul 01, at 17:22, c. wrote: Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. yes, exactly- it doesn't contain SIGNIFICANT amounts of thc (and the others) because it is a variety of cannabis that has been grown for the material and not the resin. i can't even be

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 9:41:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Another reason conservatives like Bill Howard just hate California WRONG! I don't hate California, just the liberals that infest it. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER ==

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- dear oh dear- well, at least with a bit of backtracking you managed to get here at last. - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is a variety of cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Marijuana is a variety grown for THC content. They are *different varieties* as you have admitted. Do you know the meaning of different? It does not mean 'the same'. It's the same plant. If you grow it for fiber you call it

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 18:47, I wrote: Regarding whether I am acquainted with the effects of marijuana: I am quite familiar with marijuana; I live in N. California where some of the finest marijuana in the world is grown. c. wrote: shyearight the arrogance of some

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 12:22, Nessie wrote: It's the same plant. If you grow it for fiber you call it hemp. If you grow it for THC you call it marijuana. It is amazing the level of ignorance shown by some on this list. A low thc variety will not produce high quality hemp no matter

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 7:43:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A low thc variety will not produce high quality hemp no matter how you grow it. This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions especially density, with a little loving care and husbandry the

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 23:39, Kris Millegan wrote: This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions especially density, with a little loving care and husbandry the THC level of any cannabis strain may be raised or lowered. Cultivation, harvest and curing

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/3/01 8:54:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This statement is true only within the context of growing conditions especially density, with a little loving care and husbandry the THC level of any cannabis strain may be raised or lowered. Cultivation, harvest

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Jul 01, at 0:22, Kris Millegan wrote: But please do not tell me that with some age-old husbandry, one may not—especially in time, also produce spoforic THC level plants from the fiber seed stock. I agree, but the statement I was referring to was i wrote: A low thc

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- If the plant is a low THC variety, growing conditions have little effect on the amount of THC. The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will go up. A

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp for fiber, it will not get you high no matter what the growing conditions. How do you know? Did you try? Or are you repeating hearsay? A

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread c.
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:01 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- The truth is if you get some wild ditchweed weed seeds which escaped from hemp fields in when it was legal to grow hemp

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 22:51, Nessie wrote: The THC is concentrated in the flowers. If one prunes the plant so that it will have more flowers, the percent of THC by weight per plant will go up. Increasing the concentration say 50 percent of something a, that exists at less that

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- On 3 Jul 01, at 18:47, I wrote: Regarding

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-03 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) With genetic engineering, one day people will be growing one huge

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- LOL - Original Message - From: Bill Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 4:25:36 PM

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.
Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote: marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is not the drug marijuana. Any idiot knows that. You've been smoking too much. Hemp does not contain significant amounts of THC. You can smoke hemp all you want and all you'll get is a headache. Steve On 2 Jul 01, at 7:45, c. wrote: hemp is marijuana is hemp. different

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nurev Ind.
experience have you? I strongly recommend that you don't make a clear ststement like this in public. J2 - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK)(fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 6:31:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just to confuse the issue... Did you know that canvas comes from the word cannabis and was a huge part of the old hemp/ maritime industry So when the sailors got bored they smoked their sails? Or where the

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 7:14:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where'd you hear this? It's absurd. Hash isn't cooked. The process doesn't involve any heat whatsoever. This was reported years ago on that very liberal news network, ABC. A

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- Hemp is not the drug marijuana. yes it is steve

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.
- however tenuous the trail from the email to the home address is! - Original Message - From: Nurev Ind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- c. wrote

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- This was reported years ago Says you. Show us the citation. on that very liberal news network, ABC. What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term liberal anyway? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Aleisha Saba
-Caveat Lector- My old boss used to say I am liberal in meeting the needs of the people; however, I am conservative in spending their money. Now that line got him elected for 30 years total. He always believed in the Golden Rulel - Screw them before they screw you. He was a Lawyer, nobody is

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/2/01 10:30:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term liberal anyway? a. the mouse b. Brain dead. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread c.
: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/2/01 10:30:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What makes ABC liberal and what, exactly, do you mean by the term liberal anyway? a. the mouse b. Brain dead. A HREF=http

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/2/01 12:00:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: let me get this straight bill. you were watching this braindead channel and are repeating it's braindead opinions as yours? wowee, conservatism is broad church indeed. You got me on that one. A

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-02 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- a. the mouse b. Brain dead. Could you please be a little more specific and articulate? What the heck are you talking about? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

[CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon Why farmers in Hermel have more faith in 'Gold' than government By Robert Fisk 01 July 2001 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=81153 At first, it looks like a cornfield. But step a few metres into the

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 8:16:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon Hashish is not a crop. It is distilled from weed. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hashish is not a crop. Correct. Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one lof the products made from hemp. There are others. It is distilled from weed. Incorrect. It is not distilled. The ripe flowers are shaken over a large cloth. The dust that settles is collected and

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 9:40:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Incorrect. It is not distilled. The ripe flowers are shaken over a large cloth. The dust that settles is collected and pressed into bricks or, in Lebanon, into shoe shaped loaves. Then, these are the bricks which

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK)(fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Mark McHugh
-Caveat Lector- Yardbird wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon An amusing piece of cluelessness! Fields of hash! I remember hearing of children wearing leather aprons running through the marijuana fields in Michoacan, collecting resin to be scraped off

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Jul 01, at 9:41, Nessie wrote: Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one lof the products made from hemp. There are others. Hashish is NOT made from hemp. Hemp contains very little THC. Hashish is made from cannibis (marijuana). Hemp is not the same as marijuana. Steve

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread c.
-Caveat Lector- marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different emphasis- fruit or flesh. - Original Message - From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Then, these are the bricks which explode in the faces of the workers and do serious damage to their bodies? What are you talking about? A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- Hemp is not the same as marijuana. It's the same plant. Some strains are grown for their stems, some for their flowers. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER =CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/1/01 4:25:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are you talking about? I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash and have the mixture explode in their faces. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon(Independent UK)(fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Steve wrote: -Caveat Lector- On 1 Jul 01, at 9:41, Nessie wrote: Hemp is the crop. Hashish is merely one of the products made from hemp. There are others. Hemp is the crop. It is a variety of canabis. Hemp and Marajuana plants are bothe canabis. One is grown for the

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 1 Jul 01, at 21:59, c. wrote: marijuana is hemp is marijuana. just different strains give different emphasis- fruit or flesh. Not correct, c. Hemp and marijuana are related but different. Our governments would like you to believe that they are the same however. Read

Re: [CTRL] Hashish grows again in the fields of Lebanon (Independent UK) (fwd)

2001-07-01 Thread Nessie
-Caveat Lector- I'm talking about the people in the third world countries who cook up hash and have the mixture explode in their faces. Where'd you hear this? It's absurd. Hash isn't cooked. The process doesn't involve any heat whatsoever. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A