Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread juan
On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:12:10 +0100 Mark Steward wrote: > On 4 Sep 2016 22:13, "juan" wrote: > > > ... > > > > "Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy > > > > name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or > > > > "The American Civil Liberties Union" (wh

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Cari Machet
On Sep 5, 2016 8:12 AM, "Mark Steward" wrote: > > On 4 Sep 2016 22:13, "juan" wrote: > > > ... > > > > > "Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy > > > > name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or > > > > "The American Civil Liberties Union" (whoops,

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Mark Steward
On 4 Sep 2016 22:13, "juan" wrote: > ... > > > "Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy > > > name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or > > > "The American Civil Liberties Union" (whoops, taken), or > > > "The Society for the Preservation of Cyberspa

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 02:19 PM, juan wrote some telling information about 'where he's been'; a 'place' some of us may not have 'been to'.. > Families and businesses are dictatorial beacause they operate > in a dictatorial environment - child raising tends to be pretty > dictatorial per se.

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread juan
On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 00:22:04 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > On 9/3/16 11:32 PM, juan wrote: > > > > > > Playing with the 92-98 archive... > > > > > > From: tc...@got.net (Timothy C. May) > > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT > > To: cypherpu...@toad.com > > Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK consid

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 02:41:52PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > If you want to longtalk anything other than that to the point > that the charter would need a whole new section just for you, > GO FIND OR MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING LIST FOR THAT. > Indeed. = http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5 1. COINTELPRO T

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 07:17:14PM -0700, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/03/2016 06:45 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > > On 9/3/16 6:35 PM, Razer wrote: > >> > >> On 09/03/2016 06:08 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> > >>> Any real political anarchy has been a failure. > >> Tell that to the people

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 11:32 PM, juan wrote: > > > Playing with the 92-98 archive... > > > From: tc...@got.net (Timothy C. May) > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT > To: cypherpu...@toad.com > Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful. > > > "Similarly, there's the Libertarian Party, with similar t

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
Playing with the 92-98 archive... From: tc...@got.net (Timothy C. May) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT To: cypherpu...@toad.com Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful. "Similarly, there's the Libertarian Party, with similar themes to our own..." "Getti

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 02:41:52PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: [...] > If you're wondering why the "thousands" of people on the list > aren't "analysing political philosophies" with you, it's because > YOU'RE FUCKING OFFTOPIC, THEY DON'T WANT TO, and > they've BLOCKED YOUR ASS. > > But for new people h

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 19:08:51 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > On 9/3/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:08:41 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > > > >>> > >>> http://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html > >>> > >>> "Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital mone

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Razer
.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html >>>> >>>>"Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, anonymous networks, >>>>digital pseudonyms, zero, knowledge, reputations, information >>>>markets, black markets, collapse of governments.

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:08:41 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > >>> >>> http://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html >>> >>> "Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, anonymous >>> networks, digital pseudonyms, zero knowledge, reputations, >>

Re: philosophokiddies: Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/03/2016 07:34 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > You are awfully sensitive. Many of us are feeling rather touchy, I think ;)

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 18:08:41 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > http://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html > > > > "Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, anonymous > > networks, digital pseudonyms, zero knowledge, reputations, > > information markets, black mar

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
rkets, collapse of governments." >>> >>> >>> What are the last three words there? >> What is the whole paragraph? Is it a checklist of goals? Is it a >> statement that everything is desired for any purpose? Or is it a >> definition of a term? >>

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Razer
> > What is the whole paragraph? Is it a checklist of goals? Is it a > statement that everything is desired for any purpose? Or is it a > definition of a term? > > The whole "manifesto" is a statement of predictions and likely results. > The only call to action is a non-specific 'arise'. > >> >> >> So remind me who are in continual violation of list charter? > > Juan more time: you philosophokiddies. > > > sdw >

Re: philosophokiddies: Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 6:16 PM, Razer wrote: > > On 09/03/2016 05:48 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 9/3/16 5:00 PM, Razer wrote: >>> On 09/03/2016 11:41 AM, grarpamp wrote: >>> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing cryptography and its effect on society." >>> That's why

Re: philosophokiddies: Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Razer
On 09/03/2016 05:48 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/3/16 5:00 PM, Razer wrote: >> On 09/03/2016 11:41 AM, grarpamp wrote: >> >>> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing >>> cryptography and its effect on society." >> That's why I'm here. I'm on the 'society' end of th

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
of a term? The whole "manifesto" is a statement of predictions and likely results. The only call to action is a non-specific 'arise'. > > > So remind me who are in continual violation of list charter? Juan more time: you philosophokiddies. sdw

philosophokiddies: Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 5:00 PM, Razer wrote: > On 09/03/2016 11:41 AM, grarpamp wrote: > >> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing >> cryptography and its effect on society." > That's why I'm here. I'm on the 'society' end of that dyad. > > Just in case it REALLY matters to Juan (hereaft

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
; in this list eh? http://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html "Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero, knowledge, reputations, information markets, black markets, collapse of governments." What are

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 16:49:36 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > > 1992 : > > > > "Computer technology is on the verge of providing the > > ability for individuals and groups to communicate and interact with > > each other in a totally anonymous manner. " > > > > I wonder i

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/03/2016 01:17 PM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: >> We are "anarchists" and we do what we want. > > Anarchy doesn't scale. What will you expect with billion+ people > without societal structure? Watch World War Z and then Book of Eli to > find out. Anarchy is a beautiful dream. But it's unworkable,

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/03/2016 12:41 PM, grarpamp wrote: > On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> shit and get down to business on analysing political philosphies, to >> find practical approaches for our modern societies full of schooled > > This list is *not* for that, and it's not a list to l

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Razer
On 09/03/2016 11:41 AM, grarpamp wrote: > > "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing > cryptography and its effect on society." That's why I'm here. I'm on the 'society' end of that dyad. Just in case it REALLY matters to Juan (hereafter known as 'the troll') to know what

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 2:41 PM, juan wrote: > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:14:13 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> On 9/3/16 1:30 PM, juan wrote: >>> On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400 >>> grarpamp wrote: >>> >>> [1] "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing cryptography an

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 01:29:23 +0300 Cari Machet wrote: > Why are you fucks trying to kill a listserv ? ... because you are > fascists the topic of fascism is brought to the list by you enacting > fascist tendencies ... should we ban the topic of fascism ? lets ban > you and any admin because that i

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Cari Machet
Why are you fucks trying to kill a listserv ? ... because you are fascists the topic of fascism is brought to the list by you enacting fascist tendencies ... should we ban the topic of fascism ? lets ban you and any admin because that is fascist ... if you dont want to be wholly part of the list yo

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:14:13 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > On 9/3/16 1:30 PM, juan wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400 > > grarpamp wrote: > > > > > >> [1] > >> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing > >> cryptography and its effect on society." > > inc

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 1:30 PM, juan wrote: > On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400 > grarpamp wrote: > > >> [1] >> "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing >> cryptography and its effect on society." > incomplete, and you didn't even provide a 'source' > > plus, it's obvious tha

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread juan
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 14:41:52 -0400 grarpamp wrote: > [1] > "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing > cryptography and its effect on society." incomplete, and you didn't even provide a 'source' plus, it's obvious that you haven't read the 1992 - ~1998

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, 2016-09-03 at 14:41 -0400, grarpamp wrote: > "The Cypherpunks mailing list is a mailing list for discussing > cryptography and its effect on society." There are reasonable relateds > within the realm of "cypherpunk" to include *its* computing, tools, > privacy, surveillance, law, news, lite

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 3, 2016 3:57 PM, "Александр" wrote: > > 2016-09-03 21:41 GMT+03:00 grarpamp : >> >> Have some respect for that. > > grarpamp and alike, with lll the respect - Go, please go, please go go go fuck yourself at last! You peace of petty HYPOCRITE(s)! Alexander, The man you are of

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Xer0Dynamite
> We are "anarchists" and we do what we want. Anarchy doesn't scale. What will you expect with billion+ people without societal structure? Watch World War Z and then Book of Eli to find out. The future will probably be some mix of Apocalypse and Enlightenment, with the latter growing over the f

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach grarpamp [2016-09-03 20:41 +0200]: > If you want to longtalk anything other than that to the point > that the charter would need a whole new section just for you, > GO FIND OR MAKE YOUR OWN FUCKING LIST FOR THAT. Thanks for that. It's been appauling… -m digital_signature_gpg.asc De

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread Александр
2016-09-03 21:41 GMT+03:00 grarpamp : > Have some respect for that. Yea Yh! For that shit, real SHIT of pseudo-respect to some imaginable list rules - grarpamp gives AND demands respect. YEAH!!! Respect!!! But giving some respect for some things... you know, a little, just "a lit

Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-03 Thread grarpamp
On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > shit and get down to business on analysing political philosphies, to > find practical approaches for our modern societies full of schooled This list is *not* for that, and it's not a list to longtalk food recipes, or anything else either. L