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2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

2002-12-17 Thread Sarad AV
hi, Mr. Scheiner was always a bozo, If he is such a bozo,why are n't many of those saying this not as sucessful as he is? Mr. Sheiner's book on applied cryptography is a beauty for a beginer. --- Sleeping Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Scheiner was always a bozo, for those who

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2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-17 Thread Blanc
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Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

2002-12-17 Thread Vayu Anonymous Remailer
Are you for real??? I'm reading with horror the editorial of your latest crypto-gram. Phrases like revenge only becomes justice if carried out by the State or the Mr. Scheiner was always a bozo, for those who actually know him firsthand. His main talent was creating an extremely successful

Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

2002-12-17 Thread Shawn Duffy
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Re: Libel lunacy -all laws apply fnord everywhere

2002-12-17 Thread David Howe
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Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Schear
At 01:00 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, Shawn Duffy wrote: While I disagree with the phrase revenge only becomes justice if carried out by the State and I certainly don't agree with everything ever written in a Crypto-Gram, I must disagree with your evaluation of Mr. Schneier's editorial. Specifically, the

[IP] Limits Sought on Wireless Internet Access (fwd)

2002-12-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 04:53:42 -0500 From: Dave Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ip [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IP] Limits Sought on Wireless Internet Access Limits Sought on Wireless Internet Access By JOHN MARKOFF SAN FRANCISCO, Dec. 16 The Defense

Re: [s-t] olfactory profiling (fwd)

2002-12-17 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 6:59 PM -0800 on 12/16/02, Mike Rosing wrote: 70% of the dog's brain is devoted to it's nose ...and the other 30% is devoted to mooching lunch. :-). Cheers, RAH Seriously. cf recent neuroscience/paleoanthropology research about the man-dog interface... -- - R. A. Hettinga

Re: Libel lunacy -all laws apply fnord everywhere

2002-12-17 Thread David Howe
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2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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Two Cops Dead in Salvador Prison Riot.

2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-17 Thread Matthew X
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2002-12-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:00 AM 12/17/02 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: RAH Seriously. cf recent neuroscience/paleoanthropology research about the man-dog interface... He's talking about a recent study (in _Science_) comparing the ability of domestic dogs, wolves, and chimps to interpret a human's signals -pointing,

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2002-12-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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RE: [IP] Limits Sought on Wireless Internet Access (fwd)

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Re: Big Brotherish Laws

2002-12-17 Thread Adam Back
I wrote: If I recall some time ago (years ago) there was some discussion on list of using non-US drivers licenses or out-of-state drivers licenses I think to get around this problem. I thought it was Duncan Frissell or Black Unicorn who offered some opinions on this. Below looks like the

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2002-12-17 Thread Steve Schear
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Re: Big Brotherish Laws

2002-12-17 Thread Adam Back
If I recall some time ago (years ago) there was some discussion on list of using non-US drivers licenses or out-of-state drivers licenses I think to get around this problem. I thought it was Duncan Frissell or Black Unicorn who offered some opinions on this. (Actually I am interested in this

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2002-12-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
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Re: Extradition, Snatching,and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-17 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald US policy was to restore the status quo ante in Afghanistan, put things back the way they were before the Soviet invasion. Sarad AV How does that make things better for 'afghan' people,after all the bombing done on their home land? Obviously it makes things

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Re: [IP] more on keep them ignorant -- ElcomSoft Jury Asks for Law Text - judge refuses

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Schear
In cases where the statues might appear to reasonable people, otherwise ignorant of the judicial process, to be made from whole cloth or contrary to fairness or a plain reading of the constitution, denying juries access can help thwart nullification. Its un-American and downright anarchistic

Re: Libel lunacy -all laws apply fnord everywhere

2002-12-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 02:29 PM 12/15/02 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Steve Schear wrote: From the article: The court dismissed suggestions the Internet was different from other broadcasters, who could decide how far their signal was to be transmitted. This is totally bogus thinking. The

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, John Kelsey wrote: The thing that's being missed here is that, if elections can be won by running on a pro-freedom slate, politicians will be found to do that. Note Running and winning are 2 different things. So far most libertarians don't win, but it's slowly changing.

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2002-12-17 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, December 15, 2002, at 09:22 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 12:18:52AM +, David Wagner wrote: Declan McCullagh wrote: Also epic.org (not a cypherpunk-friendly organization, but it does try to limit law enforcement surveillance) [...] Is the cypherpunks

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-17 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:56:04PM -0800, Mike Rosing wrote: I don't know, Ashcroft is adament about the 2nd amendment. It's about the only good thing I can think of otherwise. He's not as regulatory as his predecessor, but I find it hard to reconcile that statement with the DOJ's actions in

Re: [s-t] olfactory profiling (fwd)

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: Realtime, cheap, reliable, invisible. Hard to fake, especially if combined with other biometrics. Can be as sensitive as a canine, in principle. [...] http://www.eps.gov/spg/USA/USAMC/DAAD19/DAAD19-03-R-0004/SynopsisP.html I would think anyone doing

Re: CDR: Re: Libel lunacy -all laws apply fnord everywhere

2002-12-17 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Miles Fidelman wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Steve Schear wrote: From the article: The court dismissed suggestions the Internet was different from other broadcasters, who could decide how far their signal was to be

Re: Suspending the Constitution

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Rosing
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Major Variola (ret) wrote: At 03:49 PM 12/14/02 -0800, Tim May wrote: PLONK. Hey, maybe Mike was talking about Mr. Booth, not Mr. Lincoln. :-) Tim has given me some motivation to work on an old idea. We'll see if I get any time in the next year to make it happen.

Re: Privacy qua privacy (Was: Photographer Arrested For Taking Pictures...)

2002-12-17 Thread John Kelsey
At 12:53 PM 12/15/02 -0500, Adam Shostack wrote: ... I think that a law which re-affirmed the rights to be anonymous, to call yourself what you will, to be left alone, to not carry or show ID would transform the debate about privacy into terms in which the issue could be solved. (At least as it

Re: CDR: Re: [IP] Dan Gillmor: Accessing a whole new world viamultimedia phones (fwd)

2002-12-17 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Jim Choate wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: Jim Choate, in a display of bad judgement and ill temper never before seen on the internet, spewed forth the following blood-libel: I have fulfilled a lifelong goal, I have walked where no man has ever

Re: [IP] Dan Gillmor: Accessing a whole new world via multimedia phones (fwd)

2002-12-17 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Steve Furlong wrote: Jim Choate, in a display of bad judgement and ill temper never before seen on the internet, spewed forth the following blood-libel: I have fulfilled a lifelong goal, I have walked where no man has ever walked before. I can now die happy ;) I'm

Re: Extradition, Snatching, and the Danger of Traveling to Other Countries

2002-12-17 Thread Sarad AV
hi, --- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US policy was to restore the status quo ante in Afghanistan, put things back the way they were before the Soviet invasion. How does that make things better for 'afghan' people,after all the bombing done on their home land? The future of

Re: Libel lunacy -all laws apply fnord everywhere

2002-12-17 Thread David Howe
at Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:33 AM, the following Choatisms were heard: Nobody (but perhaps you by inference) is claiming it is identical, however, it -is- a broadcast (just consider how a packet gets routed, consider the TTL for example or how a ping works). ping packets aren't routed any

Woof (Re: [s-t] olfactory profiling (fwd))

2002-12-17 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 11:00 AM 12/17/02 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: RAH Seriously. cf recent neuroscience/paleoanthropology research about the man-dog interface... He's talking about a recent study (in _Science_) comparing the ability of domestic dogs, wolves, and chimps to interpret a human's signals -pointing,

Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

2002-12-17 Thread Shawn Duffy
While I disagree with the phrase revenge only becomes justice if carried out by the State and I certainly don't agree with everything ever written in a Crypto-Gram, I must disagree with your evaluation of Mr. Schneier's editorial. Specifically, the phrase why the state can NOT be just... Please

Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

2002-12-17 Thread Sarad AV
hi, Mr. Scheiner was always a bozo, If he is such a bozo,why are n't many of those saying this not as sucessful as he is? Mr. Sheiner's book on applied cryptography is a beauty for a beginer. --- Sleeping Vayu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Scheiner was always a bozo, for those who

Re: Big Brotherish Laws

2002-12-17 Thread Adam Back
If I recall some time ago (years ago) there was some discussion on list of using non-US drivers licenses or out-of-state drivers licenses I think to get around this problem. I thought it was Duncan Frissell or Black Unicorn who offered some opinions on this. (Actually I am interested in this

Re: War on drugs...

2002-12-17 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On 13 Dec 2002, Sleeping Vayu wrote: Uh...I'd point out that this is no coincidence. The Conpiracy Theorist would say that the War on Drugs was precisely the CIA's way to keep its own drug prices high and continue funding their own little activites. Plausible. Oh, and aside from the fatass

more about using non-US driving licenses (Re: Big Brotherish Laws)

2002-12-17 Thread Adam Back
And this I guess was the cypherpunks post I was thinking about from Duncan below. The only worries then would be if the insurance company would consider you insured in event of an accident with a non-US license. (Where that could a Canadian insurance company, or a US insurance company if you can

Verdict's in: Elcomsoft NOT GUILTY of criminal DMCA violations

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Schear
[I'm more convinced than ever that nullification figured into the verdict. If so, bravo for the jury. steve] http://news.com.com/2100-1023-978176.html SAN JOSE, Calif.--A jury on Tuesday found a Russian software company not guilty of criminal copyright charges for producing a program that can