Re: CDR: RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Damian Gerow
After reading this, I feel like I missed something in my original post... Mike Rosing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then the whole world dies, because of ... what? Natural stupidity. grin Spot on. Which is why MAD works. But a regular bombing run on a few oil refineries would put the

Nuking kasmir (Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV)

2003-04-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:43 PM 4/1/03 -0800, Sarad AV wrote: Well-pakistan has been constantly nuclear black mailing india.They say that their nuclear options are always open and there is nothing india can do about it. Sarath. Hilarious, dude. Who got nukes first? India. See your own propoganda site,

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Ken Brown wrote: On paper they won on the Eastern Front, but the Soviet Union was produced out of the Russian defeat and I suspect many Germans would, in the log run, not have thought that that was a good outcome. One really can't deny that that shipping the secret weapon

Re: Logging of Web Usage

2003-04-02 Thread Bill Frantz
At 2:58 PM -0800 4/2/03, John Young wrote: Ben, Would you care to comment for publication on web logging described in these two files: http://cryptome.org/no-logs.htm http://cryptome.org/usage-logs.htm Cryptome invites comments from others who know the capabilities of servers to log or

Re: Logging of Web Usage

2003-04-02 Thread Morlock Elloi
Frankly, it seems that some brains around here are softening. Relying on httpd operators to protect those who access is plain silly, even if echelon (funny how that word dropped below radar lately) did not exist. The proper way is, of course, self-protection. Start with tight control of outgoing

Logging of Web Usage

2003-04-02 Thread John Young
Ben, Would you care to comment for publication on web logging described in these two files: http://cryptome.org/no-logs.htm http://cryptome.org/usage-logs.htm Cryptome invites comments from others who know the capabilities of servers to log or not, and other means for protecting user

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Tim May
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 10:43 PM, Sarad AV wrote: --- Damian Gerow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then the whole world dies, because of ... what? Seriously, I *highly* doubt that any nation at this time would *seriously* think of bombing another nuclear-enabled nation with a nuclear

Re: Logging of Web Usage

2003-04-02 Thread Thomas Shaddack
Relying on httpd operators to protect those who access is plain silly, even if echelon (funny how that word dropped below radar lately) did not exist. Echelon could be grouped together with Carnivore and CALEA devices into the group of Generic Transport-level Eavesdroppers. No need to consider

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:16:20PM +0100, Vincent Penquerc'h wrote: I don't think they will need to fight us, just impose sanctions by the UN, or even just a world boycott of the US. That and a few suicide bombers in the US now and again. How many suicide bombers in airports would

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread David Howe
at Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:53 PM, Kevin S. Van Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say: What's a legitimate government? One with enough firepower to make its rule stick? One with real (not imagined) WMD to frighten off american presidents. NK being a good example...

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Ken Brown
Kevin S. Van Horn wrote: the side contributing the most corpses won. True of Vietnam of course. And of WW2, the dead being mainly in Eastern Europe and China. Arguably of WW1 as well, the Germans lost fewer men on the Western Front than the Belgians, French and British, but they had more

Re: CDR: RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Sarad AV
--- Damian Gerow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then the whole world dies, because of ... what? Seriously, I *highly* doubt that any nation at this time would *seriously* think of bombing another nuclear-enabled nation with a nuclear weapon. It's just suicide. Well-pakistan has been

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-04-02 Thread Ken Brown
Harmon, your knowledge of the history of the Roman Empire early Christianity is flakier than Choate's physics. Go home and read some history books instead of New Age loonies with a persecution complex. No point in refuting the heap of ignorance appended below because there isn't enough

Re: Trials for those undermining the war effort?

2003-04-02 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:22:31PM +0100, Ken Brown wrote: Harmon, your knowledge of the history of the Roman Empire early Christianity is flakier than Choate's physics. Go home and read some history books instead of New Age loonies with a persecution complex. I'm not reading new age

Re: CDR: RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Damian Gerow
Sarad AV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, I *highly* doubt that any nation at this time would *seriously* think of bombing another nuclear-enabled nation with a nuclear weapon. It's just suicide. Well-pakistan has been constantly nuclear black mailing india.They say that their

Re: Duct-tape and tin foil nukular reactor?

2003-04-02 Thread Tyler Durden
Tim May wrote... You fucking cretin, _you_ are the one who cited the article and then wrote: I always get a distinct pleasure out of getting posters to go postal. This is close and I'm laughing my ass off! (Even better is to knock a poster out of his nym into a new one. Tim? How about

RE: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

2003-04-02 Thread Trei, Peter
Kelsey[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] How ever I wonder if the report of an Apache helicopter being shot down by a farmer with his rifle-the chopper was certainly downed but I find it hard to beleive that a bullet brought it down. I heard (I think on BBC) that a whole bunch of the choppers we

Re: Missile -launchers in iraq

2003-04-02 Thread Sarad AV
hi, Blitz comes with high casualities.Shock and awe technique can use troops paratrooping into baghdad.But casualities are always unacceptable to the U.S. So they do it the conventional way. Sarath. --- Ken Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tyler Durden wrote: [...] PS: Anyone notice the