Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Kneops
I would be happy to pay for a Linux alternative!!! I used Aftershot Pro for a few years, but development stopped and image quality was poor, but using it was a joy and it was very fast. Op 17-02-2021 om 11:07 schreef Martin Straeten: If you're just looking for a free/linux Lightroom

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Terry Pinfold
It is really easy to manage which modules are shown and you can create presets that only show the modules you most use. Then you can use the 'search module' feature to find less used modules that you have not included in your preset. I might be the odd man out here, but I am very happy with the

Re: [darktable-user] style with multiple instances of module

2021-02-17 Thread Terry Pinfold
The style I used was created with version 3.4.1. On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 16:58, KOVÁCS István wrote: > My issue (https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/7655) > occurred with images processed with an older version of darktable ('it > was an issue related to new pipe order introduced in

Re: [darktable-user] style with multiple instances of module

2021-02-17 Thread KOVÁCS István
My issue (https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/7655) occurred with images processed with an older version of darktable ('it was an issue related to new pipe order introduced in 3.0 and completely fixed in 3.2.1 by @TurboGit. Anyway, already affected XMP with multiple instances (so all

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Bill Wohler
Andreas Herold wrote: > > Am 17.02.2021 um 06:40 schrieb Bill Wohler : > > > > How about a preference to sort the module lists by a) alphabetical b) > > pixel pipe? I just wish the lists were alphabetical so that they would > > appear in well-known places and be easier to find. > > > > I would

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Cecil Carpenter
I have followed this thread with a somewhat bemused attitude.  There have been comments, coming from both sides of the discussion, that are somewhat jaundiced in the viewpoint expressed.  Being a former programmer and application architecture developer, I thought it may be helpful to consider some

Re: [darktable-user] style with multiple instances of module

2021-02-17 Thread Terry Pinfold
I'm using 3.4.1 on a windows machine. I have a style that has three instances of contrast equalizer and it is working correctly for me. I apply the style in Darkroom through the quick access option for styles. On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 18:40, Joachim Cziollek wrote: > > > I created a style, which

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Remco Viëtor
On mercredi 17 février 2021 17:39:23 CET Maurizio Paglia wrote: > First of all I desire to point out it was not my intention to be rude or > blame nobody. > Nevertheless the reply " that's quite easy - because none of those who want > this feature become > active, fork the code and simply

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Moreover, I was ready to learn a little of Lua in order to see If I can implement this feature myself, but Lua cannot be used in darkroom mode... Maurizio Il giorno mer 17 feb 2021 alle ore 17:39 Maurizio Paglia ha scritto: > First of all I desire to point out it was not my intention to be

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Maurizio Paglia
First of all I desire to point out it was not my intention to be rude or blame nobody. Nevertheless the reply " that's quite easy - because none of those who want this feature become active, fork the code and simply implement the stuff ... " is really impolite. I cannot write C and cannot start

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Martin Straeten
it's not just a couple of days - that's just the effort needed to mess up the UI ;) you can get an idea on the effort spent just to make module groups customizable by counting commits ( https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/commits/master/src/libs/modulegroups.c) then you might imagine the

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Bill Wohler
How about a preference to sort the module lists by a) alphabetical b) pixel pipe? I just wish the lists were alphabetical so that they would appear in well-known places and be easier to find. I would say that a majority of the users love, love, love the developers and the software, but don't care

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Archie Macintosh
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 13:04, Guillermo Rozas wrote: >> >> why an ordered list starts at >> the botttom and goes up, unlike any ordered list you're likely to come >> across in daily life! > > Any layer-based program goes from bottom to top, with the base image at the > bottom and things applied

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Michael Staats
On 17/02/2021 13:14, Martin Straeten wrote: > "Really, I cannot understand why we cannot have a tab on which any USER > can list his/her preferred modules and can order them as per his/her > preferred workflow" > > thats quite easy - because none of those who want this feature become > active,

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Guillermo Rozas
> > why an ordered list starts at > the botttom and goes up, unlike any ordered list you're likely to come > across in daily life! > Any layer-based program goes from bottom to top, with the base image at the bottom and things applied on top of it (and let's not get into node-based programs...).

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Guillermo Rozas
On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:37 AM Maurizio Paglia wrote: > Really, I cannot understand why we cannot have a tab on which any USER can > list his/her preferred modules and can order them as per his/her preferred > workflow. > There have been several answers touching on this in this thread. You

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Martin Straeten
"Really, I cannot understand why we cannot have a tab on which any USER can list his/her preferred modules and can order them as per his/her preferred workflow" thats quite easy - because none of those who want this feature become active, fork the code and simply implement the stuff ... Am Mi.,

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Andrew Greig
Hey Rahl, I have just received two messages in a row to the list from you, but no comment from you has been made. Did you have something to write or was it a "pocket dial"? Andrew On 17/2/21 10:51 pm, rahl wrote: On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 09:34 +0100, Kneops wrote: I started this

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread rahl
On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 09:34 +0100, Kneops wrote: > I started this topic/conversation about the GUI, but at first it was > just a question, if the order could be changed to make it feel more > logical and pleasant to me to work with. I now understand the > reasoning > behind this and that it

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Maurizio Paglia
Hi all, I desire to let you have my opinion about this matter. In the past I pushed a lot to have this feature. Together with me many other USERS did the same... Really, I cannot understand why we cannot have a tab on which any USER can list his/her preferred modules and can order them as per

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Archie Macintosh
@Martin > I didn't say the developers aren't photographers. I know that some are colour scientists. And I didn't say anything about Lightroom. If some of the developers are professional GUI designers, I'm sorry I didn't know that. On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 10:07, Martin Straeten wrote: > > Thats

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Martin Straeten
Thats nonsense. The darktable developers are not just linux developers but also photographers with much more experience in color science than most usual Lightroom users. This experience is manifestated in darktable. If you're just looking for a free/linux Lightroom alternative then you're on the

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Archie Macintosh
@Kneops > You are raising a genuine issue. Linux applications – dt included – are built by some trully brilliant programmers; but they aren't GUI designers. The GUIs in free software often grow by accretion, user-feedback, design adjustments forced by software developments, and agreements between

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-17 Thread Kneops
I started this topic/conversation about the GUI, but at first it was just a question, if the order could be changed to make it feel more logical and pleasant to me to work with. I now understand the reasoning behind this and that it should not be changed. But underneath there is more I must