Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-11 Thread Peter Cripps
Bill, thanks for letting us try your noise profiles. I did some quick tests, and they seem to work very well, particularly for very noisy images. On 03/10/2018 07:35 PM, William Ferguson wrote: I usually shoot 1000-1500 images per game (football, soccer, basketball), and 600-800 for baseball

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread William Ferguson
I usually shoot 1000-1500 images per game (football, soccer, basketball), and 600-800 for baseball and softball. I shoot raw because of the stadium light problem. I'll shoot a burst and get 3 too green, 2 just right, 3 too red, 1 just right... I shoot with a Canon EOS 7D, a camera not renowned f

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Robert Krawitz [03-10-18 14:07]: [...] > I do shoot JPEG only. I need to. I shoot something like 2000 frames > per game, but I want to get the noise down a tad. conversely I shoot only raw, but on a weekend I may have 3-4 soccer games at 4-800 shots per game and usually two are late enough t

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:48:55 +0100, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > > On 03/10/2018 05:34 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:04:45 +0100, David Vincent-Jones wrote: >>> When I apply the 'denoise (profiled)' onto a fairly raw image the >>> results, on my data, look quite acceptable. I

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread David Vincent-Jones
I am finding that the 'denoise (profiled)' when switched from NLM to wavelets is doing a fairly good job in particular on my sky areas it is a bit aggressive but can be toned down as needed. On 03/10/2018 05:34 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:04:45 +0100, David Vincent-Jone

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread David Vincent-Jones
On 03/10/2018 05:34 PM, Robert Krawitz wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:04:45 +0100, David Vincent-Jones wrote: >> When I apply the 'denoise (profiled)' onto a fairly raw image the >> results, on my data, look quite acceptable. I have been trying to see >> which modules that I am using are creating

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 17:04:45 +0100, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > When I apply the 'denoise (profiled)' onto a fairly raw image the > results, on my data, look quite acceptable. I have been trying to see > which modules that I am using are creating more noise than others. > > In another test I have

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread David Vincent-Jones
When I apply the 'denoise (profiled)' onto a fairly raw image the results, on my data, look quite acceptable. I have been trying to see which modules that I am using are creating more noise than others. In another test I have used the para. mask to eliminate some processing from sky areas ... it i

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Sometimes there are problems with a particular channel. I have had this kind of problem also with the blue channel (not the sky= in some specific conditions where there are few data on the blue channel and the white balance / colour balance tends to lower it even more. In this case, you can ends up

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 16:44:24 +0100, David Vincent-Jones wrote: > Your examples interest me since they are shown on a blue subject. My > experience with a fully profiled sensor is that the 'basic' Denoise > (profiled) works quite well by itself EXCEPT for blue sky areas. > > My sky areas tend to for

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-10 Thread David Vincent-Jones
Your examples interest me since they are shown on a blue subject. My experience with a fully profiled sensor is that the 'basic' Denoise (profiled) works quite well by itself EXCEPT for blue sky areas. My sky areas tend to form into rosette clumps whenever some reasonable degree of processing is a

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread Bernhard
Robert Krawitz schrieb am 08.03.2018 um 03:52: On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 20:36:14 +0100, Matej Martinovic wrote: Hey, denoising in darktable is somewhat tricky: Use the *denoise (profiled)*, set it to "wavelet" and set blend mode to "color". This eliminates the awful color noise. Use a *second ins

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread I. Ivanov
I took the profile Denoise_chinese from https://dtstyle.net/ Some times I simply rely on it while others I only tweak the demosaic module to VNG4 two times full average or Amaze. I should say however that I very rarely shoot at more than ISO 6400. Never compared to RawTherapee... I had a bit

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread Robert Krawitz
On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 20:36:14 +0100, Matej Martinovic wrote: > Hey, > > denoising in darktable is somewhat tricky: > > Use the *denoise (profiled)*, set it to "wavelet" and set blend mode to > "color". This eliminates the awful color noise. Use a *second instance* of > denoise (profiled), set it to

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread Jack Bowling
To get an image squeaky clean, you can set the blend mode to multiply and then work the opacity slider to taste. Mind you, this tends to make things a bit clinical. Jack On 2018-03-07 12:10 PM, darkta...@911networks.com wrote: Thanks to all. It does help. On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 20:36:14 +0100

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread darktable
Thanks to all. It does help. On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 20:36:14 +0100 Matej Martinovic wrote: >Hey, > >denoising in darktable is somewhat tricky: > >Use the *denoise (profiled)*, set it to "wavelet" and set blend mode >to "color". This eliminates the awful color noise. Use a *second >instance* of deno

Re: [darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread Matej Martinovic
Hey, denoising in darktable is somewhat tricky: Use the *denoise (profiled)*, set it to "wavelet" and set blend mode to "color". This eliminates the awful color noise. Use a *second instance* of denoise (profiled), set it to non-local means and choose blend mode "lightness". With that second

[darktable-user] denoising problems

2018-03-07 Thread darktable
DT 2.4.1 I'm having problems with the denoising: Canon 7DMkII and Canon 70-200L IS f/4 ISO1250 Darktable: * before denoise: https://i.imgur.com/k9Njy70.png * denoise profiled: https://i.imgur.com/Unw2i8O.png and it's very blotchy * equalizer denoise: https://i.imgur.com/8E1CzHt.png (w/o the