Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the root-2 floppy? Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick us over the edge into root-3 land? We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would prefer to get the

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:45 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 06:30:48PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the root-2 floppy? Would adding

No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports In addition to the already noted problems with 2.4 PowerPC boot floppies, I have two requests for modules to be included on the root or root-2: 1) The change installation priority menu item should be available *very* early in the install process. Best would be

Bug#272310: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac G3 tower

2004-09-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports I tried the PowerMac install floppy set from the 18th Index of /~luther/d-i/images/2004-09-18/powerpc/floppy-2.4 NameLast modified Size Description

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Oh, and btw, I'm just installing my oldworld 4400/200 mac with d-i and the daily built 2.4-floppy images (with root.img and root-2.img) and it seems to work fine - right now. I'll keep you informed in another mail. BTW, as of tomorrows build, the 2.6 images should

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 01:00 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:42:09AM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: [Lots of stuff about what's where in a beige G3 ...] Bottom line, Sven, what pieces of information about the G3 do you need from me? Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 03:55 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 02:31:09AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Meanwhile, back at the 2.4 ranch... The 2.4 boot floppy read, switched to text mode, asked for root, which read, asked for language (English), then gave me a blue screen

Re: No /dev/modem or similar created on PowerPC?

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 17, 2004, at 03:12 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Russell Hires wrote: I'm just poking around on my G3/266 and I'm noticing that I don't have a /dev/modem, or any tty that links to it. Does the d-i create such a device only if you say that you want to install via ppp? This could be a

Bug#270599: Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-09-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:55:17AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Definitively a bug in discover, could you fill a bug report against discover1 with your lspci and lspci -n output ? You won't get much help out of lspci. These are not PCI devices. The macio chip shows up as one huge PCI device, and

Bug#271419: mesh SCSI driver should be loaded by default on OldWorld Powermac

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
PROTECTED]:~$ Enjoy! Rick On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 06:36 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 12:45:00AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Note 1: This machine has a SCSI Zip drive is on the apple mesh scsi controller. Before the discover disks phase, I had to go

Bug#271419: mesh SCSI driver should be loaded by default on OldWorld Powermac

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks! I await the fix with baited breath... (Like the cat beside the mouse hole. -8) Enjoy! Rick On Monday, September 13, 2004, at 07:49 AM, Colin Watson wrote: reassign 271419 hw-detect tags 271419 pending thanks On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 07:15:17AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: The following

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 10, 2004, at 05:04 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: The ofonlyboot has not changed. It reads and inverts the colors of the tuxmac, but never switches to text-mode screen from the inverted color tuxmac. The boot floppy reads and switches to the text screen then asks for the root

Re: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, at 01:23 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 12:45:29PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Ummm... The contents of http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ haven't changed in the last few days. Is the build process stalled

Re: HELP: Failed powerpc autobuild upload again, p.d.o is rejecting my rsync.

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Then it's probably not a hardware problem. On Sunday, September 12, 2004, at 06:00 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 05:10:53AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: On Sun, 2004-09-12 at 03:06, Sven Luther wrote: Here is the error in my log : powerpc/netboot/2.4/vmlinuz-chrp.initrd

Bug#271417: Select keyboard defaults to European when American English is expected on OldWorld PowerPC

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See Note 2 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271418: After reboot wrong ethernet interface is primary on Oldworld PowerPC Macintosh

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See note 3 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271419: mesh SCSI driver should be loaded by default on OldWorld Powermac

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See Note 1 below... INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name

Bug#271421: Printserver task setup defaults to a4 paper when letter is expected.

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac see note 5 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271420: Default kernel image is 2.6.7 -- should be 2.6.8 -- on OldWorld PowerPC Mac

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See note 4 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271423: Floppy driver not loaded during install process on OldWorld PowerPC Macs

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac see note 6 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#271424: Partitioner is checking active swap files!!!

2004-09-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc BootX 20040911 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac See note 7 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 11, 2004, at 07:11 AM, Russell Hires wrote: P.S. jokingWhen are you finally going to start work on the manual?/joking All joking aside... That is an important task! But I kinda figured it was less important than getting the software working at all on oldworld hardware,

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 9, 2004, at 12:45 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 09:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 05:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Please try again with todays floppies, and if it doesn't fix the problem, we need to investigate what

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 09:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 05:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Please try again with todays floppies, and if it doesn't fix the problem, we need to investigate what driver is missing or something. I'll try the new floppies tonight

Bug#270599: Floppy install on Oldworld PowerMac

2004-09-08 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 05:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 04:17:55AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports powerpc boot-floppy 20040906 OldWorld PowerMac ... Then I tried the boot floppy. It gave me the tuxmac and made reading noises.

Bug#270239: Timezone configuration should not show 'UTC' after system time

2004-09-06 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 06 September 2004 19:53, Joey Hess wrote: AfAIK hwclock output never includes the timezone. I'm afraid it does. On a system installed with LANG=en_US (on which I based my report): # hwclock --show --localtime | awk '{NF-=2; print $0}' Mon 06 Sep 2004

Bug#270239: Timezone configuration should not show 'UTC' after system time

2004-09-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, September 6, 2004, at 11:00 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Apparently, it looks at the LANG environment variable... LANG=C /sbin/hwclock --show --localtime gives Tue Sep 7 02:22:16 2004 -0.463550 seconds but LANG=en_US /sbin/hwclock --show --localtime

Re: Red X saga -- success!!! (up to a point...)

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 04:45 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, try out : http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot/floppy-2.6-2004.09.01 I have checked the ofonlyboot, boot and root floppies. I tried this -- the usual 30 seconds or so of floppy noises followed by Red X for both the boot and

Bug#269529: OldWorld pmac installation -- several problems

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Can you mail the /var/log/debian-installer/syslog and messages to this The complete set of logs and other system info from that install are available at: http://rcthomas.org:7879/~rbthomas/logfiles/install-6500/ I can mail them to the bug if you like, but why

Bug#269529: OldWorld pmac installation -- several problems

2004-09-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: http://rcthomas.org:7879/~rbthomas/logfiles/install-6500/ Permissions prevent me from reading the syslog. Fixed. Sorry! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Red X -- not quite gone yet...

2004-09-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, It's 2:15 AM, and I've got a meeting tomorrow at work, so I won't be able to test these tonight. I'll try to get to them tomorrow (9/1) in the evening (US East Coast time). Please do me a favor and loop-mount the images to see if they have all the expected pieces and the pieces are of

Re: Red X -- not quite gone yet...

2004-08-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 04:41 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 08:23:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 01:58:34AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Is it possible the objcopy is corrupting it? This is indeed a possibility. I

Re: Red X -- was: Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, August 29, 2004, at 04:31 AM, Rick_Thomas wrote: I tried the new 2.4 PowerMac floppys today. Now I get the Red X on the 2.4 boot floppy as well. I did an experiment... I mounted the 2.4 boot floppy and extracted the zImage file, uncompressed it, and compared it to the

Re: Red X -- was: Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Is it possible the objcopy is corrupting it? This is indeed a possibility. I will disable this again for the 2.4 floppies, and we will see tomorrow what happens. That said, the 2.6 floppies are too big to work with miboot without the objcopy -O

Re: Plea for help from PowerMac Open Firmware gurus -- Testing newoldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies

2004-08-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick_Thomas wrote: Well... on the beige G3, I booted into Open Firmware with the ofonlyboot floppy in the drive. The G3 comes up with console input/output being keyboard/screen. From another Mac running MacOS-9, I connected with MacKermit to the G3's modem port (which is normally

Re: PowerPC Install

2004-08-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: the .coff booting is probably the only free alternative, but i am told requesting a debian oldworld user to get the serial console working is not acceptable. Only unacceptable in the sense that Open Firmware is dramatically different between machine types. Apple

Re: PowerPC Install

2004-08-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 12:22:38AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 06:59, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Any ideas why these daily builds are broken every day? I just tried the 2.4 floppy images. What Wouter says is correct. I'm going to go over the

Re: new oldworld pmac miboot 2.6 floppies, root size should be ok, net_drivers still too big, please test.

2004-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, August 19, 2004, at 05:00 AM, Sven Luther wrote: happy floppy disk reading noises. However, the noises eventually stopped and a red X appeared over the TuxMac. Then nothing. I had to manually eject the floppy from the drive. What we need would be a way to get a log of it or

Re: Old world mac

2004-08-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 02:19 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: Rikard Borg wrote: I'm one of those out there waiting with a 7200 box at home. Rikard Borg -- Hi Rikard, Did the work-around I sent you help any? Have you got that 7200 box working yet? Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-16 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, August 13, 2004, at 09:53 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Can you please retry the miboot boot floppies tomorrow ? I fixed the daily-builds to rebuild the actual miboot floppies. Now, the only problem remaining would be the root floppy being too big, and the actual 2.6 kernel based miboot

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-16 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 16, 2004, at 03:18 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Thanks Rick for testing it. I will build 2.6.8 miboot kernels today, could you possibly give it a try to see if it boots this evening or something such ? Sure. Expect my report at about the same time tomorrow that I posted today's.

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports I retrieved the floppy images at http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc-small/floppy/ so I could try out a floppy-boot install from them. I got never even got off the ground... 1) The boot.img' floppy seems to have nothing on it but the

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, at 05:45 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 11:25:48AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: # We'd like to use miboot, but it isn't in the archive yet ... #miboot -c ./tmp/powerpc-small_floppy_boot/miboot.conf # ... so instead we do some grungy HFS hacking. I wonder

Bug#264964: OldWorld PowerMac Debian-Install floppys

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, August 11, 2004, at 05:25 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:57:22AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports I retrieved the floppy images at http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc- small/floppy/ so I could try out a floppy

Bug#264963: Installation report for Apple Blue White G3 400 from netinstall CD (powerpc, RC1)

2004-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Evilpig wrote: On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:35:27 +0100, Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not in the lspci output because it's not a PCI card. I thought I'd fixed this one, so I'd like the reporter to show me the output of the following two commands, which you should be able to

Bug#264492: NewWorld (G4) PowerPC d-i hardware detect does not see firewire disk

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, August 9, 2004, at 03:55 PM, Rick_Thomas wrote: OK, as I said, output of lspci and lspci -n will be sent tonight, when I can get my hands on the machine in question. Here is the output of lspci ; lspci -n Hope it helps! BTW, I manually did modprobe ohci1394 ; modprobe sbp2 just before

Bug#264492: NewWorld (G4) PowerPC d-i hardware detect does not see firewire disk

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at 04:04 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, so we do it by hand. I wonder though what newworld pmac box he has that doesn't work, apple usually reused the same componnent in various boxes, and thus it should usually work. Well, it's a PowerMac G4 733 MHz. The case is grey.

Re: Old world mac

2004-08-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Install MacOS-9. Then use the BootX boot-loader. (or 8.5 or 8.6, if 9 won't run on the S-900. I've never seen one of those, so I don't know what will run on it and what wont. I'm told that BootX even works with MacOS 7.5, if your machine can run it and you have a floppy drive to install it

Bug#264492: NewWorld (G4) PowerPC d-i hardware detect does not see firewire disk

2004-08-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc businesscard RC1 NewWorld PowerMac INSTALL REPORT Synopsis: Partition hard drives fails to see FireWire disk on powerpc NewWorld (G4) PowerMac on RC1 businesscard install. You folks are probably tired of seeing OldWorld PowerPC bug reports from me,

Re: Old world mac

2004-08-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Rikard Borg wrote: Hi Rick Thomas Wrote: Any one of these three bugs will render debian-installer unusable for anyone with anything but a plain vanilla hardware or networking environment who doesn't have help from a competant System Administrator, or have such skills personally

Re: Introduction

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 03:52:20AM +1000, James Mills wrote: On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 06:36:42PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: [Please keep further questions on the mailing list, if you would.] Shit. Does this list not have an explicit Reply-To header to the mailing

Re: release status

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: At this point the only delay is waiting for the autobuilders, which are overloaded from all the other uploads surrounding the sarge release, to catch up and build the d-i images. In the past 24 hours, we've gotten builds for hppa, ia64, s390, and sparc, plus a manual build

Re: release status

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
OOOps... I accidentally hit send when I meant to hit save... Here's the complete message as I intended it to be! Rick Joey Hess wrote: At this point the only delay is waiting for the autobuilders, which are overloaded from all the other uploads surrounding the sarge release, to catch up

Re: release status (checklist)

2004-08-02 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: The test checklist in installer/doc/checklist is still missing many entries and the more complete it is the better I'd feel about calling this release rc1 instead of beta5. If you'll send me a pointer (URL?) to the test checklist, I'll try to make sure that it gets as done

Bug#261460: Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, July 29, 2004, at 05:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 04:27 PM, Joshua Kwan wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:40:30PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Please, somebody, give it a try and let me know I'm not going crazy. It doesn't take very long to get to the point

Bug#261460: Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-08-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks for the prompt reply! On Sunday, August 1, 2004, at 01:55 PM, Joshua Kwan wrote: If you do not CC [EMAIL PROTECTED], nobody except me will see this. I did that. Would somebody please try this out on an i386? (DNSserver address != Gateway address) And let me know if it breaks non-DHCP

Bug#262201: PowerMac (OldWorld) - no driver for onboard SCSI

2004-07-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, July 30, 2004, at 05:34 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 12:24:54AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports powerpc 20040724 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac kernel-2.6 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: sid_d-i/powerpc/20040724/sarge-powerpc

Bug#241516: partial success on Oldworld powermac

2004-07-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks for the reminder. You can close this bug report. The ask for floppy driver module twice (and not fined it at all bug is still present, but I've mentioned it in other bug reports that reference more current CD images, so there's no need for this one. Enjoy! Rick On Friday, July 30,

Bug#261460: Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-07-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, July 28, 2004, at 04:27 PM, Joshua Kwan wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 03:40:30PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Please, somebody, give it a try and let me know I'm not going crazy. It doesn't take very long to get to the point where this bug manifests itself, and you don't ever get

Bug#262198: Partition hard drives fails on powerpc OldWorld PowerMac in 20040729 businesscard install.

2004-07-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc businesscard 20040729 OldWorld PowerMac INSTALL REPORT Synopsis: Partition hard drives fails on powerpc OldWorld PowerMac on 20040729 businesscard install. Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image

Bug#262201: PowerMac (OldWorld) - no driver for onboard SCSI

2004-07-29 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports powerpc 20040724 businesscard OldWorld PowerMac kernel-2.6 INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: sid_d-i/powerpc/20040724/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso Comments/Problems: The powerpc 2.6 kernel on the 20040724 businesscard CD is missing drivers (modules or

Is anyone else seeing this? -- Re: Bug#261460: Non-DHCP network config step of d-i is broken

2004-07-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Is this problem only on OldWorld PowerMac's? Or am I just the only person in the world who wants to configure his network interface without DHCP? If this is happening on i386, it would be a show stopper! Please, somebody, give it a try and let me know I'm not going crazy. It doesn't take

Bug#261463: Missing drivers on powerpc 2.6 businesscard install

2004-07-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 09:25 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:00:46AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: The powerpc 2.6 kernel version of the d-i is missing drivers (modules or built-in) for Mac floppy disks and SCSI CD-ROM drives. I've added the floppy modules. Thanks! Installing

Bug#261463: Missing drivers on powerpc 2.6 businesscard install

2004-07-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:17:46PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: On Monday, July 26, 2004, at 09:25 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2004 at 02:00:46AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Installing on a PowerMac/6500 with a TEAC SCSI CD-RW drive

Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Thomas
I don't know if this is relevant, but some IDE controllers only recognize the first 128 GB(binary) = 137*10^9 bytes. Is it possible that your controller has two modes? Windows uses one mode that recognizes the whole disk, and Linux uses the other (compatibility?) mode that only recognizes the

Bug#260225: Sarge installer not recognising partition table for disk larger than 137GB

2004-07-19 Thread Rick Thomas
on the list knows?) That would be worth a try. I know it's possible to use disks larger than 137 GB with Linux -- I'm doing it! Rick On Monday, July 19, 2004, at 08:33 PM, Sara Falamaki wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 04:15:36PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I don't know if this is relevant, but some IDE

Re: Powerpc netinst iso.

2004-07-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven, You didn't ask for my opinion, but here it is anyway... As a user, I think splitting netinst/businesscard into separate 2.4 and 2.6 isos is a wonderful idea. The fewer unneeded Megabytes I have to download and burn before I can get started installing the better! I usually know whether

Re: powerpc status and missing 2.6.7 .udebs and .debs in sarge.

2004-07-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 11:45:38AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 11:07, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 10:55:36AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Last night I downloaded and installed on my test-machine [beige G3 mini-tower (OldWorld)]

three different sets of daily ISOs -- what's the difference?

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
There are three (seemingly) different sets of daily ISOs at http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040710/ http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d- i/powerpc/20040710/ http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/20040710/ Can anybody explain

Bug#258907: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac businesscard daily CD 2004/07/11 fails initial reboot

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040711/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 12, 2004 Method: How did you install?

Bug#258908: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac sid_d-i businesscard daily CD 2004/07/11 fails installing unstable

2004-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040711/sarge-powerpc-businesscard.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 12, 2004 Method: How did you install?

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Rick Thomas wrote: Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Last night I tried installing both 2.4 and 2.6 on my OldWorld Beige G3. (using the sarge netinst daily CD from 2004/07/07) Neither worked, but for different reasons. I've sent installation reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Bug#258541: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 fails toinstall

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040708/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: early AM EDT Saturday, July 10, 2004 Method: How did you install? What

Bug#258545: OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 success (mostly)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040708/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-powerpc #1 mer avr 14 15:38:38 CEST 2004 ppc GNU/Linux Date: 11 PM EDT July 9, 2004 Method: How

Bug#258545: OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/08 success (mostly)

2004-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, July 10, 2004, at 07:33 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 03:46:29AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Everything went like clockwork except that it tried to install the quik bootloader. IT's not supposed to do that for OldWorld machines, is it? This is a beige G3 minitower

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
powerpc === In unstable, 2.4 and 2.6 both work fine on newworld pmac. 2.4 oldworld pmac is unbootable, but then again it always has been. It is reasonable to move for a 2.6 powerpc kernel for sarge, for all currently supported architectures, the support for those is better, and

Bug#258422: Kernel 2.6 OldWorld PowerMac netinst daily CD 2004/07/07 fails toinstall

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/20040707/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: didn't get far enough to get this... Date: 11 PM EDT July 9, 2004 Method: How did you install? What did you boot

Re: Minutes of #debian-boot meeting of 20040706 (was: Debian Installer IRCmeeting on Tuesday 07/06 20:00 UTC)

2004-07-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: Last night I tried installing both 2.4 and 2.6 on my OldWorld Beige G3. (using the sarge netinst daily CD from 2004/07/07) Neither worked, but for different reasons. I've sent installation reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but they haven't yet shown

Re: Debian Sarge on oldworld Powermac?

2004-06-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Reset (zap) the PRAM. Turn the power off, then turn it on with the Command-Option-P-R keys (all of them) held down. Hold the keys down til it bongs a couple of times, then release and it should boot normally from floppy. Rick On Sunday, June 13, 2004, at 05:51 AM, matt-land.com wrote: On

Bug#244099: your installation report

2004-04-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, April 20, 2004, at 01:47 AM, Joey Hess wrote: Note that if you hit the go back button at the hostname question, you'll get to the main menu, and hitting enter will let you choose how to configure it. Thanks! That solves my problem. However, we still need to get some way to set the

Bug#244394: FWD: eject-udeb

2004-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: snip Still, i wonder were the right place would be for this .udeb : 1) in the cdrom iinitrd to have access to it as soon as possible ? (it doesn't seem to appear though in the first stage of debian-installer's main menu, don't know why though). 2) have

Bug#244367: PowerPC install from boot floppy mostly successful - still some problems.

2004-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
I'll give it a try this evening (US/Eastern time zone) Enjoy! Rick Matt Kraai wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 2004 at 04:04:13AM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: 1) It automatically ejected the boot floppy when asking for the root floppy. Thanks for that, whoever put that patch in. However, when

Re: d-i, FAI, quik-installer for oldworld, debconf4

2004-04-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Holger Levsen wrote: snip I would like to start hacking a quik-installer (for oldworld powerpc) now, but I am a little unsure how to test it on my own: Since my only oldworld system to develop with is a pmac4400 at the moment I have to boot if from floppies. Then I'll usually insert the

Re: Bug#243166: eject should provide a .udeb, so that an eject menu item can be found in debian-installer.

2004-04-12 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 12:28:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: tags 243166 moreinfo help thanks On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:52:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: A .udeb package would allow to eject the cdrom during the install. Would be particularly usefull

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, April 11, 2004, at 01:56 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Ok. Now wee need to see why this happens. It seems that nobody was able to make it work with the boot floppies built by me, is that exact ? Only by those built by Jeremie. We need to find out why. Jeremie, did you modify the kernel

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi! See comments interleaved below... Rick Malte Cornils wrote: Hi Rick, On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the firmware

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 01:37:21AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Malte, Rick, does this mean that the daily build floppies work for you now ? Friendly, Sven Luther Yes. It reads all the floppies and launches d-i as expected. I still have problems with d-i once

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-09 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 09 April 2004 20:40, you wrote: Booting off of floppy, there is no way to invoke ...PRIORITY=medium mode. It just does the default. Are you sure? You have to enter 'linux DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium' Frans This is OldWorld PowerMac. Booting off of floppy

Re: d-i oldworld mac: floppies fail on 4400/200 and 7200/75

2004-04-08 Thread Rick Thomas
Malte, Errors like that are usually symptomatic of a dirty/dusty floppy drive. In particular, if the boot floppy is ejected, it means that the firmware got an error trying to read it, or couldn't find the magic numbers in the magic places that it was expecting from a real-live Macintosh boot

Re: Fw: Request for review of partman-newworld

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Thomas
Frans Pop wrote: Hello Rick, Are you still planning to work on the manual for Macs? If so, could you take a look at the text below, snip Yes I am. I got side-tracked for a while in testing d-i on old-world Macs. Thanks for the words. I'll take a look at it this weekend. Enjoy! Rick

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-04-07 Thread Rick Thomas
I just had an interesting conversation with an Apple developer (Apple employee) regarding the legal status of the boot sector for oldworld Macs. He pointed out that Darwin runs (and boots) on (at least) the beige G3, and that's oldworld. I don't know anything about Darwin except that it's

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, April 5, 2004, at 07:12 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 04:29:14PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader The installer should automatically recognize the OldWorld subarchitecture

Bug#242143: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least)

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: boot-floppy Severity: normal Subject: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least) On OldWorld PowerPC Macintoshes there is no way for a user to do an expert mode boot starting from the boot floppys. I suppose theoretically that one can do

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader On OldWorld PowerPC Macs the yaboot bootloader doesn't work. Without resorting to expert mode (DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium or better) there is no way to

Bug#241516: install-report success (sort of) on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Date: daily for powerpc for March 30, 2004. Image from: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/powerpc/20040330/sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso uname -a: Linux debian 2.4.25-powerpc #1 ven mar

Bug#241228: Oldworld from floppy, installing the kernel fails

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: Another solution would be for base-installer to install the -powerpc kernel on your box too, since the main reason to use the -powerpc-small kernel is so that it will fit on a floppy with miboot. Would it be possible to restrict use of -powerpc-small kernel to just

Bug#241228: Oldworld from floppy, installing the kernel fails

2004-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, April 1, 2004, at 05:57 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: another mail, same topic: Is there support for setting open firmware values in debian-installer at the moment ? Not yet, but you are welcome to provide patches. We'll see, I will try to setup a d-i build this weekend or next week

Re: goals for next release

2004-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas
Sven Luther wrote: I would also vote for : ESC abort current action if possible and drop back in the main menu (at possibly a lower priority). If abortion is not possible, you simply do the drop back at the earliest possible convenience. Sorry, was not talking about the help

Re: Debian-installer, older hardware, boot loaders, miboot amiboot ..

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, March 30, 2004, at 10:47 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 04:01:49PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:56:21PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: Google macintosh boot block turns up official Apple information

Re: corrections

2004-03-30 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Simon, Can you give a blow-by-blow installation procedure for installing debian on oldworld Macs without BootX? I've done it for woody with BootX -- I haven't figured out how to do woody without BootX. Unfortunately, sarge has completely eluded me so far -- with or without BootX. Thanks!

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