Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes (Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.): I see no reason not to reply [...] I think you are being hypocritical. You complain when other people post their opinions and discussions of this topic with you, yet you post your own diatribes here. Since

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 03, 2000 at 12:56:11AM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: I think you are being hypocritical. You complain when other people post their opinions and discussions of this topic with you, yet you post your own diatribes here. Since your request to keep the discussion to private email seems

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone else to listen. Then this principle must

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 09:53:06AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: Your complaint against us using the DUL is valid. It should not be used. Your complaint against IWJ is not, and your complain/threat against Debian even less so since we are not doing that. I'm making no threat. I reserve the

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone else to listen. Then this principle must apply universally. I reserve the right to ignore bug reports for any reason I choose, then. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:00:35PM +0100, Diana Galletly wrote: Yes, sure we could get other addresses that don't use SAUCE, but some of them might use DUL or some such, and then Joseph would be ranting ... Well, everything has consequences. Sysadmins have the right to employ DUL. People on

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone else to listen. Then this principle must apply universally. I reserve the right to ignore

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 03:11:27PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:08:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone else to listen. Then

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 02:09:45AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Then that is what you do every time you reject an incoming mail message having to do with project business. you know, you have a point there - if i wanted to redefine reality into some bizarre idiosyncratic perception of it then

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes (Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.): Sending me mails -- with whatever content -- and discarding my replies regardless of their content is nothing short of harassment. [further polemic] I reiterate, iwj and I are discussing this in private

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-04-01 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 03:20:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: If you really want the topic only to continue in email I suggest that you abide by that yourself ! If you continue to post these kinds of heated messages on -devel you can hardly complain when people respond. It's a matter of

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 11:32:49AM +0100, Stephen Early wrote: All of the recent discussion about various blacklists, dial-up user lists, etc. seems to have frayed people's tempers. I see a lot of messages from angry people, with little useful content. I suggest everyone takes a step back and

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:43:27AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: I'm fighting with iwj about this in private mail, and won't trouble the lists further about it at this time. I do have a better idea of what's going on now, but I still feel his MTA is presuming my box guilty of spam generation

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 03:43:27AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: why? it's his mail server, he can do what he likes with it. he is entitled to reject or defer mail delivery to his system for any reason he chooses, regardless of

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread Diana Galletly
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: On Fri, Mar 31, 2000 at 11:18:47PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: your right to free speech does not include the right to force anyone else to listen. I think Branden's whole point was that he doesn't like to be forced to listen to something

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-31 Thread John Goerzen
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you don't correct this at once I will be forced to re-evaluate my place within a project that is nominally devoted to free and open communication among its members and the rest of the world. Your complaint against us using the DUL is valid. It

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-30 Thread Stephen Early
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: Mar 29 15:20:15 apocalypse sendmail[7886]: e2T8qEi03048: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .greenend.org.uk, ctladdr=branden (1000/1000), delay=11:28:01, xdelay =00:00:21, mailer=esmtp, pri=6332789, relay=chiark.greenend.org.uk. [195.224.76.132], dsn=4.2.0,

Re: Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.

2000-03-30 Thread Ian Jackson
Branden Robinson writes (Ian Jackson, please get me the hell off your blacklist.): Mar 29 15:20:15 apocalypse sendmail[7886]: e2T8qEi03048: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=branden (1000/1000), delay=11:28:01, xdelay=00:00:21, mailer=esmtp, pri=6332789, relay=chiark.greenend.org.uk.