Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:48:22 +0100, Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And Bastian is decidetly anti make-kpkg and wants to remove all make-kpkg use from linux-2.6 as stated several times now. You can see beginings of

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a bug report number I can refer to to refresh my memory on this issue? ... Again, what is broken about EXTRAVERSION? Which bug reports are we talking

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a bug report number I can refer to to refresh my memory on this issue? ... Again,

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:26:57PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a bug report number I

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:26:57 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 09:35:56AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: What architecture line are we talking about here? Is there a bug report number I can refer to to refresh my memory on this issue?

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: From personal experience I must say that bugs reported against kernel-package get manojs attention fast and get fixed fast. Bugs against the linux-2.6 source get ignored or you get

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the real problem is that Manoj could be part of the kernel team, and to a point even is, since he has svn access to the repo. But there is a problem, in that Manoj's

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 10:47:56AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, the real problem is that Manoj could be part of the kernel team, and to a point even is, since he has svn

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 09:31:22AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: And Bastian is decidetly anti make-kpkg and wants to remove all make-kpkg use from linux-2.6 as stated several times now. You can see beginings of that in the xen kernels. That happens if the same problems happens over and

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: BTW, jonas, i notice also : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403203 Yes. I was slightly baffled about that bugreport fork, and is still wondering what to do about it: To me is seems like a report against the

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:09:09PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: BTW, jonas, i notice also : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403203 Yes. I was slightly baffled about that bugreport fork, and is

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:09:09PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I believe that maintaining yaird separately from debian-kernel helps avoid interest conflicts. Well, this is where you are wrong, there is no conclict of

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-17 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Luther wrote: Manoj's principal preocupacion is those user who build their own kernel, and the official kernel is only an after thought In my understanding kernel-package is intended as a _generic_ tool for Debian-packaging a Linux kernel,

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:50:04 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sven Luther wrote: Manoj's principal preocupacion is those user who build their own kernel, and the official kernel is only an after thought This is a egregious mischaracterization of my stance. In my

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 12:30:28AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:50:04 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sven Luther wrote: Manoj's principal preocupacion is those user who build their own kernel, and the official kernel is only an after thought

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:43:06PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0100, Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm not longer interrested in communicating errors in software, which is not able to catch errors but reports

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-15 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 04:40:16PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: From personal experience I must say that bugs reported against kernel-package get manojs attention fast and get fixed fast. Bugs against the linux-2.6 source get ignored or you get comments like breaks cross building and

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061201 20:30]: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced by vorlon, so does this mean it will enter testing today ? What about the remaining (or new) RC bugs ? Some of them being open against 2.6.17, so

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:37:01AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061201 20:30]: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced by vorlon, so does this mean it will enter testing today ? What about the remaining

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced by vorlon, so does this mean it will enter testing today ? What about the remaining (or new) RC bugs ? Some of them being open against

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Teodor-Adrian MICU
I think it is a good ideea to adopt 2.6.19 for etch if its possible. I looked over the changelogs in 2.6.18 and there is one issue that concerns me: commit a4fce7747b167aa5e9aa43c4f816744d8a97e021 Author: Patrick McHardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Oct 11 01:53:26 2006 -0700 NETFILTER:

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:36:30AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced by vorlon, so does this mean it will enter testing today ? What about the

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:51:57AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: The -k7 issue, i don't know, can it be a flavour that was dropped or something ? linux-latest-2.6 is not a candidate because not yet uploaded on sparc. That's the easy part; linux-modules-extra-2.6 is the harder part, currently

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: We need another upload of linux-2.6 and linux-modules-extra-2.6 to fix the following issues: Ok, do we have a plan for this ? Not yet. I'm not longer interrested in communicating errors in software, which is not able to catch

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:41:08AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:51:57AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: The -k7 issue, i don't know, can it be a flavour that was dropped or something ? linux-latest-2.6 is not a candidate because not yet uploaded on sparc. That's the

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread maximilian attems
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: snipp Frankly, 2.6.16 was a total cock-up. Aside from all the extra work it made for the release team, I even found patches I had to reapply for alpha because they were dropped on the floor when 2.6.16 was merged to trunk. I am very much opposed to

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: We need another upload of linux-2.6 and linux-modules-extra-2.6 to fix the following issues: Ok, do we have a plan for this ? Not yet. Can we upload that today or

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread maximilian attems
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:44:11PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: We need another upload of linux-2.6 and linux-modules-extra-2.6 to fix the following issues: Ok,

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Jurij Smakov
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:36:30AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced by vorlon, so does this mean it will enter testing today ? What about the

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0100, Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced by vorlon, so does this mean it will enter testing today ? What about

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:43:06PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:36:30 +0100, Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says Should ignore, but forced

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Teodor-Adrian MICU [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is a good ideea to adopt 2.6.19 for etch if its possible. Please don't unless we can't avoid it. Each time we bring in a new kernel, those of us who maintain external kernel modules have to do a bunch of work to catch up with all the API

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 03:41:24PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:44:11PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:10:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:48:07AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: We need another upload of

Re: 2.6.19, kernel-package problems and what are our plans for etch ...

2006-12-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 01:41:50PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: yes i want to add 2.6.18.5 to linux-2.6 sid, not sure if it breaks abi through.. Sounds to me like something to look into *after* 2.6.18 has had a chance to reach testing? You have to force them than. Bastian -- Killing is