Bug#192571: debian-policy: Size limit for doc packages

2003-05-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 9 May 2003, Andreas Tille wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.9.0 Severity: minor Hello, the thread on debian-devel about Generally accepted cut-off limit for -doc packages starting with

Re: Bug#191036: create /run for programs that run before /var is mounted

2003-04-28 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 191036 debian-policy thanks On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.8.1 Severity: normal Tags: patch As per the discussion on debian-devel, I am filing this bug with patch to have base-files create the /run directory. To summarise the

Bug#87510: how build dependencies are specified in policy

2003-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
+ When binary packages are on the so-called ttbuild-essential/tt + list, the build-dependencies can be omitted. Please see + ref id=pkg-relations for more information. A package is build-essential when it's build-essential according to the definition of build-essential.

Re: Bug#177306: please include the complete text of the GNU Free Documentation License

2003-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 177306 debian-policy thanks On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Jordi Mallach wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.6 Severity: normal I just wanted to point at /usr/share/common-licenses/FDL in one of my packages, but surprise, we distribute no such file in base-files. Is there a good

Bug#177306: please include the complete text of the GNU Free Documentation License

2003-01-18 Thread Santiago Vila
Colin Watson wrote: Perhaps it would reduce the frequency of this request if it were mentioned in /usr/share/doc/base-files/FAQ? Good idea. I've just added it to the FAQ. Thanks.

Bug#176300: Please use a better From: line for CVS messages.

2003-01-11 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy This is not a policy proposal, but a request for those of you who manage the CVS server. Please change it so that it does not send messages like this: From: debian-policy@lists.debian.org To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org Those mails trigger two common spamassassin

Re: Bug#174296: base-files: QPLv1 license inclusion

2002-12-25 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 174296 debian-policy thanks On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Luis Bustamante wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.6 Severity: wishlist Under /usr/share/common-licenses I think we should provide also the QPLv1 license. There are a lot of programs that use it and including it in every

Re: Bug#173737: GNU Free Documentation License should be added to common-licenses

2002-12-20 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 173737 debian-policy thanks On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, James A. Treacy wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.6 Severity: wishlist As use of the GNU Free Documentation License is increasing it makes sense to add it to the licenses in /usr/share/common-licenses. The latest version can

Re: Bug#172990: base-files: Please include MIT licence in /usr/share/common-licenses/

2002-12-14 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 172990 debian-policy thanks On Sat, 14 Dec 2002, Matt Hope wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.2 Severity: wishlist Could you please include the MIT licence in /usr/share/common-licences/MIT, such as what is available from http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php I

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Santiago Vila
James R. Van Zandt wrote: Matt Swift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... In the source package, the file ./debian/PVER-elisp.install.in contains the lines: ELCDIR=/usr/share/$FLAVOR/site-lisp/$PACKAGE [...] LOG=`tempfile` [...] $FLAVOR $BATCHFLAGS $PRELOADS

Bug#167422: files in /usr/share should be world-readable

2002-11-09 Thread Santiago Vila
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago What I don't understand is why those .log files have to be created. Because it helps me in debugging problems users may have with my packages. We usually turn off debugging when we are confident that things work as they are expected to do. That's why

Re: Essentialness of awk

2002-09-28 Thread Santiago Vila
Junichi Uekawa wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: I'd rather document awk to be an exception to the clause because unilaterally loosening this clause will require us to further patch the debootstrap phase. What do you mean? You speak as if there were lots

Re: Essentialness of awk

2002-09-28 Thread Santiago Vila
Anthony Towns wrote: Santiago Vila wrote: Several years ago it was agreed that awk would be essential (which is currently implemented by a Depends: awk in base-files). Err, shouldn't base-files Pre-Depends: awk? (In effect, base-files is the Essential: yes package that provides the awk

Essentialness of awk

2002-09-27 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. Several years ago it was agreed that awk would be essential (which is currently implemented by a Depends: awk in base-files). I think this should be reflected in policy in some way, because a lot of people still use Depends: awk in their control fields. Or even worse Depends: mawk | awk

Re: Essentialness of awk

2002-09-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: This paragraph was added to fix Bug#50832 but if we follow it strictly then all the awk packages are in violation, since they use the alternative mechanism to update the awk symlink in /usr/awk

Re: build-arch and autobuilders ?

2002-09-12 Thread Santiago Vila
Yann Dirson wrote: I couldn't find in policy 3.5.7.0 any requirement that would allow an autobuilder to know it should call debian/rules build-arch instead of debian/rules build, prior to call fakeroot debian/rules binary-arch. I thought (as outlined in a related bugreport, although my words

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 05:12:52PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: If noone who is faimilar with the history and aims of this transition has any objects, the I will upload the new debhelper tomorrow, I guess. Sounds good. I suppose Santiago'll also be

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-22 Thread Santiago Vila
retitle 69311 [PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore. thanks [ I naively proposed something like this after the release of potato, but it was not the right time... ]. Proposed patch to current policy: diff -r -u debian-policy-3.5.6.1.orig/policy.sgml

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Symlinks in /usr/doc not mandatory anymore.

2002-07-22 Thread Santiago Vila
Sorry, forgot to properly Cc: the bug address. Please second to the bug address as well... Proposed patch to current policy: diff -r -u debian-policy-3.5.6.1.orig/policy.sgml debian-policy-3.5.6.1/policy.sgml --- debian-policy-3.5.6.1.orig/policy.sgml Thu Mar 14 19:17:48 2002 +++

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Joey Hess wrote: So would anyone murder me if the code in debhelper to make postinst scripts manage /usr/doc links just went missing? There would be reasons to murder you if you *don't* do that change ;-) Adam Heath wrote: /usr/info/dir was just recently moved, with dpkg 1.10. That file is

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Adam Heath wrote: Er, this symlink was just recently made. Which means all existing browsers still use /usr/info/dir. I don't know about the others, but the standard info reader (from the texinfo package) supports the dir file being either in /usr/info or /usr/share/info. It uses whichever one

Re: /usr/doc

2002-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
Adam Heath wrote: We first need a script to remove /usr/doc itself, and make it a symlink to share/doc, before you start removing the debhelper code. Otherwise, suddenly /usr/doc becomes empty, and those that access documentation thru that location suddenly can't. We have never released

Re: Bug#152632: please include GFDL

2002-07-11 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 152632 debian-policy thanks On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Robert Millan wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.3 Severity: wishlist Hello! Please could you include the GFDL license in /usr/share/common-licenses ? I delegate the decision of including new licenses in common-licenses to

Re: Bug#147668: base-files: please include the OpenSSL license

2002-05-21 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 147668 debian-policy thanks On Tue, 21 May 2002, Tomas Pospisek wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.2 Severity: wishlist Since so many packages are linking against OpenSSL now, please include the OpenSSL license in common-licenses [1]). OpenSSL is currently ranking as 24th

Re: Bug#139437: base-files: /usr/share/common-licenses should contain the FDL

2002-03-22 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 139437 debian-policy thanks On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Martin Quinson wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0.2 Severity: wishlist Hello, i've half a dozen version of the GNU Free Documentation License on my harddisk. I think it would be a good thing to put it along with the other

Re: Bug#122038: use of /var/backups is apparently undocumented

2002-03-10 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 122038 debian-policy retitle 122038 Use of /var/backups is apparently undocumented thanks [ Sorry for taking so long to do this reassign ]. On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Lee Maguire wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0 Severity: minor debian's use of /var/backups is apparently

Re: Bug#123074: adding gfdl(7) and gpl(7)

2001-12-09 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 123074 debian-policy thanks On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Matthias Klose wrote: Package: base-files Currently the GFDL cannot be found in common-licenses. Not sure where to get this license ... Add it? Attached are the GPL and the GFDL in nroff -man format (from the gcc HEAD sources). gcc

Re: Bug#122817: base-files: Please provide profile.d hook in /etc/profile

2001-12-07 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 122817 debian-policy severity 122817 wishlist thanks On 7 Dec 2001, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pena wrote: Package: base-files Version: 3.0 Severity: important Tag: patch First of all, I'm setting this bug as important due to the fact that, even if it works as is some packages

Re: Bug#111281: base-files: MPL should be included in package

2001-09-05 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 111281 debian-policy thanks On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Tille, Andreas wrote: Package: base-files Version: 2.2.11 Severity: wishlist Hello, there seem several packages in Debian under MPL. I would consider it a good idea if this license which can be found on

Re: Bug#111281: base-files: MPL should be included in package

2001-09-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Tille, Andreas wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Santiago Vila wrote: I have delegated the decision of including new licenses to the policy group. You need two seconds and no objections. Do I have to ask explicitely for this or do they automatically handle the problem to fix

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-09-02 Thread Santiago Vila
David Coe: Maybe this is too nitpicky, but I'd prefer we name it GPL_2 (and the LGPL variants LGPL_2 and LGPL_2.1), to be more consistent with the way we delimit version numbers in other places. Yes, this is too nitpicky :-) One of the reasons we use `_' for packages is that we can use `-'

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-09-02 Thread Santiago Vila
Julian Gilbey: it's just pre-empting the existence of GPL-2.1 or GPL-3. As long as /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL still exists, that's fine. Ok, I have just uploaded base-files_2.2.13, in which GPL is a symlink to GPL-2.

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-09-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Jakob B. Jensen wrote: Suppose package X is licensed under GPL version 1 or later. As long as this text remains on the package, each recipient has the freedom to use it *at his/hers option* under GPL 1, 2 or 3 (or later). Suppose by an act of packaging Debian licenses

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-08-31 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: My belief is that the best approach would be to have /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL symbolically linked in a manner similar to library versions. This will mean that someone wishing to specify a particular version of the GPL can do so by a further

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-08-31 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: On 31-Aug-01, 10:43 (CDT), Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of today, there is only one GPL file. In my opinion it's soon for that. However, if you insist that this has to be done now, then please get policy changed first. For example

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-08-31 Thread Santiago Vila
[ In reply to last Manoj's message ] Ok, let's suppose that we do things gradually, as you suggest. [ I'm trying to delegate the decision to the policy group, if possible ] Let's consider the following proposal: The GPL file in base-files should better be renamed to GPL-2 and GPL should be

Bug#106073: separate doc packages should not be unpacked to /usr/share/doc/[package]-doc/

2001-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Warren Turkal wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.5.0 Severity: normal The separate doc packages should unpack into either /usr/share/doc/[package] or /usr/share/doc/[package]/docs. Where do you put the copyright and changelogs? [ Making them (by policy) to be

Bug#106073: separate doc packages should not be unpacked to /usr/share/doc/[package]-doc/

2001-07-21 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 11:13:36AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Warren Turkal wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.5.0 Severity: normal The separate doc packages should unpack into either /usr/share/doc/[package

Bug#102204: PROPOSAL] Downgrade emacs/tex to optional

2001-06-25 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Anthony Towns wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.5.0 This is a repeat of bug 53849, basically. The patch is the same, with the dates and line numbers changed: --- policy.sgml Fri Jun 1 19:40:16 2001 +++ policy.sgml.emacstexMon Jun 25 20:58:25 2001 @@

Re: Bug#101147: base-files: Include LaTeX Project Common License in /usr/share/common-licenses/

2001-06-16 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 101147 debian-policy thanks On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, C.M. Connelly wrote: Package: base-files Version: 2.2.8 Severity: wishlist It would be nice if the current version of the LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL) was included with the licenses in /usr/share/common-licenses/. The

Re: Is it allowed to remove old changelog entries?

2001-05-15 Thread Santiago Vila
Who cares about changelogs if there is no requirement that they tell the truth?

Bug#93724: base-files: please move undocumented(7) from manpages

2001-04-14 Thread Santiago Vila
message -- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:35:33 -0300 From: Nicolás Lichtmaier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: #93724: base-files: please move undocumented(7) from manpages

Bug#90511: proposal] addressing objections (re: disallow multi-distribution uploads)

2001-03-22 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Ben Collins wrote: On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 12:11:43AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: If there is need of a technical reason here, we need a technical reason to forbid legitimate uploads, which is (one of the things) your proposal would do. What is a legitimate reason

Bug#90511: proposal] disallow multi-distribution uploads

2001-03-21 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, Ben Collins wrote: Package: debian-policy Summary: Policy should disallow uploads for multiple distributions. Specifically this means same version uploads to stable unstable. Summary: I object. [...] Technical reasoning: 1) Building for stable unstable means that

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-02-28 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: I would like to propose that the debian/rules file is allowed to be non-makefile. Any kind of a program that can do the required stuff can be a debian/rules file. We shouldn't prohibit it when someone e.g. writes a short shell script or

Re: seeking resolution to issues I have raised

2001-02-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: There has not been a consensus on several issues I have raised here: what to do about cross-compiler directories? Do they belong in /usr/${arch}? I think they do. GCC explains how to build a cross-compiler, and it says /usr/local/${arch}, so

Bug#87711: PROPOSAL] Clarification of example configuration files

2001-02-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.5.2.0 Severity: wishlist [Following from a thread on -mentors] The question: can you have a default configuration file in /usr/share/doc which is copied by the postinst to /etc if it does not yet exist? On Mon,

Bug#42052: Bug#45052: [OLD PROPOSAL] /var/mail and /var/spool/mail

2001-02-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: Section 12.6: the para which currently reads: The mail spool is `/var/spool/mail' and the interface to send a mail message is `/usr/sbin/sendmail' (as per the FHS). ... should be changed to: The mail spool is `/var/mail' and the

Re: Frozen distribution?

2001-02-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Julian Gilbey wrote: Santiago Vila wrote: There is no current practice yet, really. I propose two different ways to do the freeze: 1. Create frozen between testing and unstable, initially as a copy of testing. 2. Create frozen between testing and unstable, initially as a copy

Re: Frozen distribution?

2001-02-15 Thread Santiago Vila
Julian Gilbey wrote: During the run-up to a release, will testing become frozen, or will we have four versions: stable, frozen, testing (continuously changing), unstable? We should modify the policy document to describe the current practice. There is no current practice yet, really. I

Re: changing priorities

2000-12-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 05:22:59PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: If you convince the ftp.debian.org maintainers to fix *all* the bugs (not only those of important severity), fine. This isn't just a matter of having the ftpmasters finally get around

reassign to policy

2000-12-13 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 79538 debian-policy reassign 79541 debian-policy thanks I am being suggested to include the GNU Free Documentation License and the Apache License into /usr/share/common-licenses in base-files. I think adding new licenses to base-files is a decision which is not to be made by myself and

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Raul Miller wrote: On 23 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Woody shall have a full /usr/share/doc/ when released, while allowing for partial upgrades from potato all the way, under the plan. On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 02:03:06PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-24 Thread Santiago Vila
On 23 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Woody shall have a full /usr/share/doc/ when released, while allowing for partial upgrades from potato all the way, under the plan. The partial upgrades issue is a myth. As I said, we have never guaranteed that *every* conceivable partial

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On 22 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I see woody release and making not having docs in /usr/share/doc/pkg as an RC bug as being the stick that shall ensuer compliance (I currently have 170 packages on *my* machine that are not compliant). __ zgrep ^usr/doc Contents-i386.gz |

Bug#69311: PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-21 Thread Santiago Vila
On 20 Aug 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: What is wrong with the plan currently in place? It will slow down the goal of FHS compliance (inclusing an empty /usr/doc) even more. I thought the plan was that for each given Debian distribution, we should be telling our users to look for docs in a

Bug#69229: PROPOSED 2000/08/16] Free pkgs depending on non-US should go into non-US/{main,contrib}

2000-08-17 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist On Wed, Aug 16, 2000 at 10:25:28AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Mike Markley wrote: A dependency on non-us will also land a package in contrib. I think there was a proposal

Bug#69311: [PROPOSAL] Finishing the /usr/doc - /usr/share/doc transition.

2000-08-17 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Now that potato has been released, I propose that we start deprecating the /usr/doc compatibility symlinks, at the same time we make using /usr/share/doc a nearly-release-goal for woody. The idea is, assuming this proposal is accepted: * We modify

Re: Virtual packages (was Re: Bug#64006:)

2000-06-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 01:02:26PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: There are still several scripts in Debian which depend on /usr/bin/nawk. All of them should work with /usr/bin/awk. So I guess we should require them to be /usr/bin/awk. Yes, that's

Re: Virtual packages (was Re: Bug#64006:)

2000-06-08 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 7 Jun 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Mon, Jun 05, 2000 at 01:32:16PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: I've just read through the virtual packages list, and there's barely a virtual package which either doesn't do this already, for example awk says: awk Anything

Re: Virtual packages (was Re: Bug#64006:)

2000-06-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 24 May 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 10:04:04AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: My original statement: we should document the APIs provided by virtual packages. My modified statement in light of all the feedback I've gotten: we should document whatever common

Re: PROPOSAL: complete list of documentation files, man packagename, all man pages refer to said doc list in See Also section

2000-05-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 23 May 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: Is there a really good reason why we shouldn't have long package names? dpkg -l, but this is not a really good reason :-)

Bug#62668: permissions on the mail spool directory

2000-05-09 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. I made a proposal to change the mail spool from mail.mail to root.mail. Still looking for seconds. Those who think root.mail is wrong should perhaps make a counter-proposal which adds a suitable rationale for using mail.mail (is there a rationale for that?). I wonder how would we deal with

Re: Policy process

2000-04-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Ian Jackson wrote: [...] I've now done a bit of research about this, prompted by the fact that when I visited -policy in my newsreader today for the first time in a few days there seemed to be very little of any use and a lot of noise. [...] Since I'm in part

Bug#62946: Status change. Update for new non-US layout.

2000-04-25 Thread Santiago Vila
close 62946 reopen 62946 severity normal retitle 62946 [AMENDMENT 24-04-2000] Update for new non-US layout thanks Here is the patch, including Josip's correction: diff -r -u debian-policy-3.1.1.1.orig/policy.sgml debian-policy-3.1.1.1/policy.sgml --- debian-policy-3.1.1.1.orig/policy.sgml

Bug#62947: Status change. s/debian-devel/debian-legal/

2000-04-25 Thread Santiago Vila
close 62947 reopen 62947 severity normal retitle 62947 [AMENDMENT 25-04-2000] s/debian-devel/debian-legal/ thanks Here is the patch: diff -r -u debian-policy-3.1.1.1.orig/policy.sgml debian-policy-3.1.1.1/policy.sgml --- debian-policy-3.1.1.1.orig/policy.sgml Mon Nov 15 16:04:59 1999 +++

Bug#62948: Status change. s/bash/base-files/

2000-04-25 Thread Santiago Vila
close 62948 reopen 62948 severity normal retitle 62948 [AMENDMENT 25-04-2000] s/bash/base-files/ thanks Here is the patch: diff -r -u debian-policy-3.1.1.1.orig/policy.sgml debian-policy-3.1.1.1/policy.sgml --- debian-policy-3.1.1.1.orig/policy.sgml Mon Nov 15 16:04:59 1999 +++

Bug#62668: permissions on the mail spool directory

2000-04-25 Thread Santiago Vila
severity 62668 wishlist thanks Well, let's make a proposal for this also: Current Policy, 5.6, states: The mail spool is 2775 mail.mail, and MUAs need to be setgid mail to do the locking mentioned above [...] AFAIK, we have never followed this, and I have not received any reports against

Bug#62947: [PROPOSAL] s/debian-devel/debian-legal/

2000-04-24 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Version: potato Severity: wishlist Policy 2.1.6, Further copyright considerations says: [...] When in doubt, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be prepared to provide us with the copyright statement. Since the debian-legal mailing list exists and it was specifically

Bug#62948: [PROPOSAL] /etc/profile is now in base-files

2000-04-24 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Version: potato Severity: wishlist Policy 3.9 Environment variables says: [...] Furthermore, as /etc/profile is a configuration file of the bash package, no other package may put any environment variables or other commands into that file. s/bash/base-files/

Bug#61308: Status change.

2000-04-22 Thread Santiago Vila
close 61308 reopen 61308 severity 61308 normal retitle [AMMENDMENT 22/04/2000] About the use of conffiles Summary: Current policy 4.7.3 says: Configuration file handling must conform to the following behavior: * local changes must be preserved during a package upgrade *

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Final rewording: I propose that we modify paragraph in Policy 4.7.3 by adding the only word, so that it reads as follows: The easy way to achieve this behavior is to make the configuration file a conffile. This is only appropriate if it is possible to distribute a default version that

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-04-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 10:36:04AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: file a conffile. This is only appropriate if it is possible to distribute a [...] It would be more grammatical to say appropriate only rather than only appropriate, since what

Re: Permissions of /var/log.

2000-04-03 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 35504 base-files retitle 35504 /var/log should be 755 and root.root severity 35504 fixed thanks [ fixed in base-files_2.1.20 ]. I consider this proposal rejected, because there has been a formal objection and no seconds. I think I was interpreting Wichert's words too much literally:

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Steve Greenland wrote: It's already in violation of policy. From section 4.7.3: The other way to do it is to via the maintainer scripts. In this case, the configuration file must not be listed as a conffile and must not be part of the package distribution. [...] I

Bug#35504: [PROPOSAL] Permissions of /var/log.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Santiago Vila wrote: The /var/log directory should have permissions 2775 (group-writable and set-group-id) and be owned by root.adm. Why group writeable? Good question. These are the permissions Bruce Perens gave to the /var/log

Bug#35504: PROPOSAL] Permissions of /var/log.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 12:02:18PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: Proposal: (to be inserted into an appropriate place in the policy docs) The /var/log directory should have permissions 2775 (group-writable and set-group-id

Bug#35504: PROPOSAL] Permissions of /var/log.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Seth R Arnold wrote: * Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000329 01:47]: --- The /var/log directory should have permissions 2755 (set-group-id) and be owned by root.adm

Bug#61308: [PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.1.1.1 Severity: wishlist The following proposal tries to address cases like Bug #34294. \begin{proposal} Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. \end{proposal} Rationale: We should try to reduce prompting to a minimum during upgrades.

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:10:54PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: \begin{proposal} Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. \end{proposal} What is a `text database' ? That term seems very unclear to me; but based

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2000 at 02:47:10PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: \begin{proposal} Do not initialize a text database by using the conffile mechanism. \end{proposal} What is a `text database' ? That term seems very unclear to me; but based

Bug#61308: PROPOSAL] Initializing databases by using conffiles.

2000-03-29 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Julian Gilbey wrote: I think this proposal is silly: for something like the cases you mention, it is obvious that they should not be conffiles, but should be created by the postinst if they do not already exist. It would clearly be very stupid for these to be conffiles.

Re: /etc/motd references BOTH /usr/doc/*/copyright AND /usr/share/doc/*/copyright

2000-03-28 Thread Santiago Vila
On 27 Mar 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: This is my take on the subject. An user should not need to know about /usr/share/doc; mentioning it, espescially with the wording that implies that one needs look into both dirs to be sure, is exactly the kind of user interface lossage we

[PROPOSAL] Permissions of /var/log.

2000-03-28 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 35504 debian-policy retitle 35504 [PROPOSAL] Permissions of /var/log. severity 35504 wishlist thanks Some time ago I asked about permissions of /var/log, it's time to do something about it. On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Santiago Vila wrote: How do we want

Re: adding rationale commentary to the policy manual

2000-02-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2000 at 07:30:39PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: I've long felt that one big failing of the policy manual is that it does not include any text describing the rationale behind the rules in it. That's because people like Santiago Vila

Re: Making /usr/doc/XXX symbolic link to ../share/doc/XXX is BAD idea

2000-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On 25 Jan 2000, Manoj Srivastava wrote: reassign 47298 debian-policy thanks Hi, If this is a bug, then it needs to be fixed for all packages, not just libcgi-perl. Marc Due to lack of space on the main partition, I moved /usr/doc to Marc some other partition (let's call

Permissions of /var/log

2000-01-25 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. Some files in /var/log are root.adm, while some others are root.root. How do we want these files to be? a) All of them should be root.root. b) All of them should be root.adm. c) This should not be covered by policy. I would like to hear opinions about this. Thanks. --

Re: Permissions of /var/log

2000-01-25 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Santiago Vila wrote: How do we want these files to be? a) All of them should be root.root. b) All of them should be root.adm. c) This should not be covered by policy. I would say c) and let common sense decide. Generally

Re: many packages still using /usr/doc

2000-01-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Roland Rosenfeld wrote: Do we really have to discuss this again? We asked the technical committee some time ago to decide how to smoothly migrate from /usr/doc to /usr/share/doc and the decision was that every package has to provide /usr/doc/package in potato (either as a

Bug#50832: AMENDMENT] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Anthony Towns wrote: +Since dpkg will upgrade other packages while an _essential_ This will should be really may. +package is in an unconfigured state, all _essential_ packages must +supply all their core functionality even when

Re: Build-depends = change policy wording

1999-10-28 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote: No. depend includes Pre-Depends, [...] Ooops! You are right. -- cdfdd1fe6bf1e8b667d6507e233f92ae (a truly random sig)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-28 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Joel Klecker wrote: At 14:42 +0200 1999-10-27, Santiago Vila wrote: I doubt gcc works without ldso ;-) Sure it does, it's not a libc5 executable. Ooops! I forgot that libc6 uses its own dynamic linker. Why is ldso still essential, then? Maybe it should be just

Re: Build-depends = change policy wording

1999-10-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote: How about: Packages may not depend on packages with lower priority values (excluding build-time dependencies). If this should happen, one of the priority values will have to be adapted. Maybe the fully correct wording would be:

Re: Draft policy 3.1.0.0 now available

1999-10-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 10:56:45PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: in C or C++. The required packages are called _build-essential_, and an informational list will be published separately from this document. I don't see that list.

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 03:50:06AM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: ldso ? Do you need this to compile a Hello World? I doubt gcc works without ldso ;-) [ Every required-and-essential package should be included in the list, because a broken

Bug#34223: APT removes essential packages.

1999-10-26 Thread Santiago Vila
reopen 34223 severity 34223 normal thanks On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote: Santiago indicated a contradiction between APT's behaviour and the packaging manual. Santiago: could you suggest a rewording of the packaging manual which would resolve this issue? Simple answer: No, this is

Re: Build-depends = change policy wording

1999-10-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Julian Gilbey wrote: Given that there are now two sorts of depends, I am changing the paragraph: Packages may not depend on packages with lower priority values. If this should happen, one of the priority values will have to be adapted. to read: Binary

Re: [forward] FHS pre-2.1 draft #3 on web site

1999-09-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On 22 Sep 1999, Chris Waters wrote: No, it implies that creating these unnecessary, redundant, and arguably just-plain-*wrong* directories is *more* support than the whole /opt tree needs or deserves. :-p ;-) Basically, while it may be a form of support, I think it's crossing the line

Re: [Result] Moving to the FHS: ...

1999-09-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On 5 Sep 1999, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Unless someone else volunteers, I could come up with a suggested language to be included in policy. It would be updated with Raul's suggestions about not making all current packages instantly buggy, and allowing the FSSTND conforming

Re: /usr/doc transition and other things

1999-09-01 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 08:12:20AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: It was my understanding that this situation could be resolved in the same fashion that the man and info transitions were. By making the docs viewing programs aware of both the old and new

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