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ca to update UDD's
lintian version.
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On 2024-08-16 6 h 44 p.m., Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Hi,
Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote on 15/08/2024 at
00:09:15+0200:
On 2024-07-29 4 h 53 a.m., Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello,
As discussed during the DebConf24 Python BoF, I'm submitting this
change to the policy to requir
o generate this kind of information, as it only
has access to the source and binary packages, not the git history.
I feel relying on d/changelog for this doesn't provide enough information.
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oing through the current list as-is by hand is not worth it :P
In the end, I'm not 100% sure what I'll do with all of this yet, but
suggestions are welcomed.
I do have some code to run a bunch of tests on all of our repositories
though and that was also a goal of mine.
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[2]: See empty.txt. I took the liberty of removing them, as they were
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blea
cefpython
cornice
datalad-metala
On 2024-07-29 4 h 53 a.m., Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello,
As discussed during the DebConf24 Python BoF, I'm submitting this change
to the policy to require the use of the upstream test suite, both during
the build process and as an autopkgtest.
You can find the MR here:
On 2024-08-03 4 h 02 a.m., Matthias Klose wrote:
On 03.08.24 07:25, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2024-08-02 20:40, Blair Noctis wrote:
to scale it out in an external source package
which is effectively going against Python upstream, allowing the
thing to live
on, and people to say
;.
[0]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1068659
[1]: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mwclient
thanks in advance,
Taavi
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oved in 3.13.
That is a lot of work and I doubt we'll have a successful transition
without this temporary measure.
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certainly doesn't motivate me to make things in
Debian better :(
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these libraries, I think it should be clear that
they won't be available for Forky (Debian 14). The last thing we want is
to maintain some deprecated zombie-libraries forever in Debian :(
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[1]: https://github.com/simonrob/pyasyncore
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On 2024-07-30 12:58, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On July 30, 2024 2:47:08 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
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On 2024-07-30 11:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On July 30, 2024 12:49:50 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
wrote:
On 2024-07-29 21:07, Scott Kitterman
On 2024-07-30 11:09, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On July 30, 2024 12:49:50 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
wrote:
On 2024-07-29 21:07, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On July 29, 2024 8:53:11 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
wrote:
Hello,
As discussed during the DebCo
On 2024-07-29 23:08, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
Hey,
Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote on 29/07/2024 at
10:53:11+0200:
Hello,
As discussed during the DebConf24 Python BoF, I'm submitting this
change to the policy to require the use of the upstream test suite,
both during the build pr
On 2024-07-29 21:07, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On July 29, 2024 8:53:11 AM UTC, "Louis-Philippe Véronneau"
wrote:
Hello,
As discussed during the DebConf24 Python BoF, I'm submitting this change to the
policy to require the use of the upstream test suite, both during the build
dules/-/merge_requests/24
People present at the BoF seemed to think this was a good idea. If you
don't please reply to this message and make yourself heard :)
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inspiration from another package, I think this one is fairly
straightforward and simple:
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/python-mpv
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That said, if I had more time, I would probably prioritise reviewing and
sponsoring more DPT packages, something I haven't done in a while.
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ition process?
* Can you identify some blockers?
* Do you have some suggestions for enhancements of this process?
I've said it many times but I really dislike transitions that are near
the release freeze. It forces us into a crunch and I don't think that's
healthy
m not 100% sure I understand your question, but is something
preventing you from installing the script with a
debian/binoculars.install file?
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mitted a Python Sprint for DebCamp. I think this time could
be used to do some QA work on the team's packages? If you have ideas of
what people should work on, there's another (temporary?) pad:
https://pad.online.debconf.org/p/python-team-sprint
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that could use it :)
https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=poetry-dynamic-versioning+path%3Apyproject.toml&literal=0
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[1]:
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/dh-python/-/merge_requests/54
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x27;m fine with creating a MR
to be discussed rather in Salsa than this mailing list - whatever seems
worthwhile to you.
I too, support this change.
As Scott said, I want to reiterate that I think it's important that
anyone who thinks this is a bad idea to make themselves heard.
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address these issues, but
it's probably not wise to mix that in with the current transition.
Agreed! There currently a lot of instability caused by 3.12 transition
and waiting a little bit would certainly make things easier to deal with :)
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ot only the unit tests) will be
ran and they'll fail. I don't think you want to run the integration
tests, or at least, this should probably be done in an autopkgtest instead.
You can fix this by adding a "d/pybuild.testsuites" file containing
"tests/unit" to specify
ld-backend = "pdm.pep517.api"` line in
pyproject.toml, we are recommending people build-depend on
python3-pdm-pep517.
Should I change something?
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of having a
'dh_install' line in 'debian/rules', as it yields a 'cleaner' d/rules file.
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like you are building in a
clean environment. I would highly recommend you use something like
sbuild to do so:
https://wiki.debian.org/sbuild
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You can "source" those in your d/rules makefile by using:
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probably won't be before the release).
All I know is this late transition leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
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packages that contain or are primarily applications, I don't think it's a
good idea.
Ditto on that one, I don't feel having "python-supysonic" would be a
good naming scheme...
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MBF would be helpful to
keep track at this point...
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On 2022-12-01 13 h 56, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2022-10-14 13 h 55, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2022-10-05 14 h 50, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2022-09-12 17 h 08, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello!
Our next team sprint will be on December 2-3-4 2022 and will be
ecise enough to flag packages that would declare everything
as a Build-Depends-Indep though. This would be much more complex and I
feel this situation is overall pretty rare.
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On 2022-10-14 13 h 55, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2022-10-05 14 h 50, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2022-09-12 17 h 08, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello!
Our next team sprint will be on December 2-3-4 2022 and will be remote.
Please register on this wiki page if you are
minute because upstream doesn't support 3.11...
I've been told the current 3.11 transition was a test, and if it was
clear too many important things were broken and couldn't be fixed, we
would roll back and release using 3.10.
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On 2022-10-21 23 h 28, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello,
This is my review of the pystray package you asked the Debian Python
Team to sponsor in the Debian archive.
1. I doubt d/README.source is needed, as this is a team-maintained
package and most of that info is in the Policy :)
2
the lintian
tags raised are relevant errors that you should fix.
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I've removed your package from the sponsor queue for now, but feel free
to re-add it when you feel like you've dealt with my review. I'll be
happy to sponsor it then.
Thanks for your contribution to Debian.
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feel free to re-add it when you feel like you've dealt with my review.
Apart from the test problem, this is a pretty good package!
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tried building this package, as there were
too many large flaws I think you should try to address first.
Thanks for your contribution to Debian.
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On 2022-10-05 14 h 50, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2022-09-12 17 h 08, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello!
Our next team sprint will be on December 2-3-4 2022 and will be remote.
Please register on this wiki page if you are interested:
https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2022
rint
(December 2-3-4), fixing packages that broke can even be an agenda item
people can work on!
https://deb.li/2S8U
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On 2022-09-12 17 h 08, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello!
Our next team sprint will be on December 2-3-4 2022 and will be remote.
Please register on this wiki page if you are interested:
https://wiki.debian.org/Sprints/2022/PythonTeam
There are plenty of items in the 'Agenda' s
nd in public), I have had no replies:
https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/-/issues/170
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ea on what to work on :)
Please note you need to register **before October 15th** to get food
sponsorship.
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On 2022-08-29 17 h 34, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Thanks to everyone who replied [1].
I think there is enough interest for this to be worth organising. Here's
a poll to find the best dates for the sprint:
https://deb.li/38VrF
There are only 2 options, Oct 28-29-30 & December
/threads.html#00052
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On 2022-08-19 14 h 04, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 08:22:28PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hello folks,
At DC22, a few people seemed interested in a potential Python Team remote
sprint, sometime between October and early December.
I'm thus wr
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On 2022-07-27 16 h 32, Julian Gilbey wrote:
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 07:45:12PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote:
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:26:33AM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
The way I see it:
1. We should have a Lintian tag for packages not using the new
pybuild-autodep8 autopkgtest
e, I'd go with 3. 1 seems
unnecessary disruptive.
I guess fixing those bugs could be a valuable sprint goal for the
potential remote sprint we discussed at DC22. I'll try to prod people on
the ML in the next few days to see who'd be interested.
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imagine a transition that would be mostly automated.
We'd probably have to fix the ones that failed to migrate manually, but
it would be much less work :)
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On 2022-07-27 03 h 52, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 7/25/22 09:37, Julian Gilbey wrote:
On Sat, Jul 23, 2022 at 07:52:19PM +0200, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
Hey folks,
We had a Python Team BoF at DC22 earlier today and I thought relaying
the
notes we took in gobby here would be a good idea
ntian+Janitor is probably the best tool combo for this, yes.
If Jelmer agrees to do the Janitor part, I'll be happy to do the Lintian
part once the pybuild-autopkgtest MR has been merged and we've confirmed
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https://tracker.debian.org/teams/python-modules/
Would be great to have Salsa MRs on it
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[2]: https://dep-team.pages.debian.net/deps/dep14/
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pdm package [3] as well as several of its build-
> dependencies into the NEW queue.
>
> [3] http://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/pdm
Nice!
As I'm sure people will confuse "python3-pdm" (the cli tool) and
"python3-pdm-pep517" (the tool used to build packages),
On 2022-07-07 15 h 36, Boyuan Yang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 在 2022-06-28星期二的 11:19 -0400，Louis-Philippe Véronneau写道：
>> On 2022-06-28 09 h 24, Boyuan Yang wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have encountered more and more packages that uses pdm-pep517 as build
>>
On 2022-03-28 12 h 17, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> On 2022-03-26 18 h 02, Stefano Rivera wrote:
>> Hi Louis-Philippe (2022.03.20_21:51:45_+)
>>> I think it would also be neat to have a team sprint during DebCamp. Here
>>> are a few ideas of things we could
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Once packaged, please ping me so I can update the
"missing-prerequisite-for-pyproject-backend" Lintian tag accordingly and
let people know they can migrate to it.
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Thank you for your guidance.
I have filled all of the regressions you reported in the BTS:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=pytest7;users=debian-python@lists.debian.org
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(AssertionError: previous item was not torn down
properly)
# Already fixed in the archive:
* monitoring-plugins-systemd 2.3.1-2
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27;d happily mentor people in working on this.
I've just submitted the sprint too, the description links to:
https://wiki.debian.org/DebConf/22/Sprints
Which links to:
https://pad.riseup.net/p/dc22pythonsprint-keep
Please add relevant goals there :)
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[2]: https://github.com/sandrotosi/dpt-repos-check/blob/main/violations.txt
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s (3-4 replies) was that it was a good idea.
Anyway, I also vote yes!
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also moved the default branch from `master` to
`debian/master` on Salsa, per the team's policy.
Cheers,
PS: I'm not planning on maintaining this package btw, this really was a
one-off. New versions should be easy to update, since all the deps are
now in Sid :)
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On 2022-01-17 12 h 31, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Monday, January 17, 2022 12:20:59 PM EST Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> The merger between the DPMT and the PAPT into a single entity has been
>> pretty successful IMO and I think it's time to
7;s say 3.9) but builds on the newer version (say 3.10). I think such
use cases are pretty rare though.
Cheers,
[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1001677
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this. I don't have the permissions to
enact this anyway, so if we reach consensus, and admin will have to make
the actual changes :)
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tty upset if someone were to do the opposite on
a package I team maintain :P
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't prevent future errors from popping up and doesn't make
maintainers aware of their errors (so they can learn from it).
I think the "perfect" solution would be to have an automated tool (aka
janitor) fixing these automatically, but this would require more work.
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Is there a reason why we shouldn't just file bugs in the BTS? I get it's
not the perfect tool for that, but it would certainly help reach the
maintainers.
Using a common usertag would also make it easier to find and fix these
issues en masse ;)
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avoided maintaining
packages that touch it :)
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If you do not wish to join the team, I can also remove you as uploader
and add myself instead.
Cheers, and thanks a lot Andreas!
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esn't seem like there's a VCS though, so
that might require some work on your side.
If you want, I'd also be happy to take over and maintain it in the
Python Team myself.
Happy holidays!
[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1001292
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if it's OK, I'll read the
upstream code myself and sponsor it.
Cheers,
[1]:
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/python-mediafile/-/blob/debian/master/debian/watch
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On 2021-12-01 15 h 19, Romain Porte wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 27/11/2021 19:32, Louis-Philippe Véronneau :
>> Sorry for being so slow to sponsor.
>>
>> While trying to build, I get this error:
>>
>> mv: will not overwrite just-created
>> 'debian/tmp/
1/debian/sublime-music.install/
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On 2021-11-08 14 h 00, Romain Porte wrote:
> Hello,
>
> 06/11/2021 18:18, Louis-Philippe Véronneau :
>> Hello!
>>
>> Grammalecte was rejected. It would be nice if you could fix the issue
>> mentioned below :)
>
> Please have a look at https://mentors.debian
et. I'd assume those exist
> now, we should check in with what other teams are doing. That stuff can
> all be fixed in one run of a tool, I'd assume.
Could this become part of the Debian Janitor at some point?
I could see teams adding a per-team config file to check things like
Hello!
Grammalecte was rejected. It would be nice if you could fix the issue
mentioned below :)
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Date
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On 2021-06-15 14 h 32, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> On 2021-06-12 16 h 20, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> The deadline to submit talks for DebConf21 is June 20th and I was
>> thinking it would be a good idea to have a Python BoF, as we always
| python-modules-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org
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Good catch. FWIW, I've opened a feature request on Lintian to try to
catch those kind of errors [1].
[1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/b
e of this package.
The "Maintainer" field currently reads
Maintainer: Debian Python Team
It should be
Maintainer: Debian Python Team
I thought there was a lintian tag for that, but there is none. I'll put
that on my TODO.
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On 2021-07-02 18 h 25, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> 2. d/control:
>
> If you require specific dependencies, you should make it clear in
> d/control. It's the kind of thing that helps a lot if people decide to
> backport it.
Specific _versions_ of dependencies. Sor
thon3-httpretty_1.0.5-0.1_all.deb
> --extra-package=/home/eamanu/Debian/DEPENDENCIES/python3-pkginfo_1.7.0-1_all.deb
This package has not been updated on Salsa, or at least, I couldn't find
version 1.7.0-1 anywhere. Maybe you forgot to push?
I'm getting test failures on tests/inspecti
te when it exists (I'm planning on writing a policy
proposal saying this after the freeze). If PyPi releases include them, I
think it's fine (but they often don't).
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On 2021-06-12 16 h 20, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> The deadline to submit talks for DebConf21 is June 20th and I was
> thinking it would be a good idea to have a Python BoF, as we always do.
>
> Anyone opposed to the idea?
>
I've submitted the B
Hey folks,
The deadline to submit talks for DebConf21 is June 20th and I was
thinking it would be a good idea to have a Python BoF, as we always do.
Anyone opposed to the idea?
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age. If not, it should be excluded.
That's pretty much it! Fix those issues and I'll be happy to upload to
experimental.
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me maintainer access so I can move it?
Hi!
If you intend to maintain the package in the Team, you need to follow this
procedure:
https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/tools/python-modules/-/blob/master/policy.rst#joining-the-team
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