Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 19:45 +0100, Thilo Six wrote: My question: I use ext3 and have /var and /tmp on seperate partitions and would specifically know about noexec and nosuid flags on these partitions. Is it a good advice to use these two flags on these partitions? Are there any programms

Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Thilo Six
Sven Arvidsson wrote the following on 27.01.2007 20:13: snip See the excellent Securing Debian Manual, especially this section, and the one following. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html#s4.10 Thank you. bye Thilo -- gpg key: 0x4A411E09 -- To

Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 07:45:58PM +0100, Thilo Six wrote: Hello I am on the way to try/test debian etch. During instaltion in partition tool one could set special parameters for partition My question: I use ext3 and have /var and /tmp on seperate partitions and would specifically know

Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Thilo Six
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote the following on 27.01.2007 21:02: snip There are a variety of programs that will fail if /tmp is not executable. In general, the noexec flag is really not very useful because it is trivial to work around. Yes that´s what the harden howto also say. I am just

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Ron Johnson wrote: On 01/26/07 23:18, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Friday 26 January 2007 23:19, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Ex-Debian user... ... back to the Gentoo If going to the Mozilla website to download and install Firefox is too much work for you, Debian is

Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:14:09PM +0100, Thilo Six wrote: Yes that´s what the harden howto also say. I am just wondering if this still applies today because this howto seems to be from 2000/2001 that must have been pre woody and we are now on the way to etch. Are the implications that

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I think that automatically upgrading people to Iceweasel is better than leaving the stagnant Firefox package since: - The security team can't support - Debian is not allowed to continue redistributing - People may not know to go looking for it Not to mention the

Re: Netinstall via bridge

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:08:39AM -0500, celejar wrote: Hi list, I plan to do a netinstall on a new laptop (Acer AS3960). There's internal wifi, and I have an Atheros PC card, but I have to assume that neither will be supported during installation. Ethernet directly into my gateway /

Re: Possible New User - Intro

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 10:22:55AM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: I'm teetering on the fence between Arch Linux and Debian Linux. So, I thought I'd post an intro in hopes that someone will give me a gentle nudge in the right direction. Forgive me if I ramble a bit. I've been a Linux user

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 07:31:08PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 23.01.07 01:49, Bruno Voigt wrote: I'm running debian/unstable on my laptop and often the LAN/WLAN is not connected (yet) when the system is starting up - including NTPD. NTPD then seems to discard all unreachable

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:27:07PM -0500, Steve C. Lamb wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:57:07PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote: Personally, I feel this hardcoding of colors in the application is a downside of X. One of the few visual things I miss from OS/2. There I had my apps set to

Re: Switching to amd64 - is it worth it?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 09:33:37AM -0500, Juergen Fiedler wrote: This is not really a problem as such, merely a request for input and interesting anecdotes: I am currently running an x86 sid on a Sempron based machine. On one hand, I am happy with it because just about everything I could

Re: Doing administrative work

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007 at 10:03:30PM -0500, Jim Hyslop wrote: OK, this latest discussion about logging in as root got me thinking. I'm fairly new to Linux. Occasionally, when I need to set up something (as an example, my recent DNS questions) I will need to edit a config file, and restart the

Re: How to catch process that removes files?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 04:52:53PM +0200, WireSpot wrote: Can anyone recommend a piece of software that will watch a file or a directory and tell me what processes mess with the files in there? In particular, I'd like it to react when a file is removed. I tried dnotify but it only tells me

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:52:51PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: I'm not clear on why Firefox couldn't be put in non-free though. (I just figured it was for upgrades.) Probably because of portability. I don't think mozilla provides official binaries for s390 and probably hppa and some of

Re: VMware?

2007-01-27 Thread Mehmet Fatih Akbulut
hi all, what about VirtualBox ? has anyone used this before ? any idea whether it's as good as vmware or worse than qemu ?

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you have found: - you still can fall iceweasel as firefox on the command line - you can browse the web *IN THE EXACT SAME WAY* You can even use the same

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but different. Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? If you miss the firefox logo, and the word firefox in the title bar, then ok, well, run stable. Otherwise

Re: random quirkyness

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 02:41:40PM -0600, Mike Myers wrote: Hi all, I'm still trying to adjust from Gentoo's way of doing things (do it manually) to debian's (apt-something) way. So far everything has been great, but i'm having trouble finding docs on a couple of issues I'm having. Both

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 27 January 2007 16:31, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:52:51PM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: I'm not clear on why Firefox couldn't be put in non-free though. (I just figured it was for upgrades.) Probably because of portability. I don't think mozilla

Re: dialup connectivity problem

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 12:03:27AM -0500, Zach wrote: Hi, I am having a problem in Debian (testing) and wonder if you could help me. In Windoze I can stat a download program and left unattended it will run for 5 hours before the ISP automatically disconnects, however in Linux when I am

Re: dialup connectivity problem

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 05:20:04PM -0600, Owen Heisler wrote: On 1/23/07, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 40C is quite fine, my drives idle at nearly that (spinning but idle). Sometimes they get up to almost 70C when they are really busy. Maybe that's too hot? Comments... My Seagate

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread John Hasler
Angelo Bertolli wrote: I'm not clear on why Firefox couldn't be put in non-free though. Because no DD felt like doing it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security

2007-01-27 Thread Angelo Bertolli
For console, you can use lokkit: lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface) But I don't think it gives you as much control as iptables. Angelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread Mitchell Verter
I am hoping that someone can direct me to the best instructions on the web for setting up a dual-boot system running Debian and NT. Most of the HOW-TOs I've looked at assume that you already have Windows running; my case is the reverse. The computer already has Debian and LILO running. If I

Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 21:14 +0100, Thilo Six wrote: There are a variety of programs that will fail if /tmp is not executable. In general, the noexec flag is really not very useful because it is trivial to work around. At least the /lib/ld-linux.so.2 work around shouldn't work anymore

Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread John K Masters
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:42:42 -0800 Mitchell Verter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am hoping that someone can direct me to the best instructions on the web for setting up a dual-boot system running Debian and NT. Most of the HOW-TOs I've looked at assume that you already have Windows running; my

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security

2007-01-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:21:36 -0500 Angelo Bertolli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For console, you can use lokkit: lokkit - basic interactive firewall configuration tool (console interface) But I don't think it gives you as much control as iptables. My point was that it would be very difficult

Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread Kent West
Mitchell Verter wrote: The computer already has Debian and LILO running. If I want to put NT on the computer too, would I just partition the disk (how do you partition in linux?) and then install NT on the new partition and expect LILO to notice? I like to use cfdisk for partitioning. Be

Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:42:42 -0800 Mitchell Verter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am hoping that someone can direct me to the best instructions on the web for setting up a dual-boot system running Debian and NT. Most of the HOW-TOs I've looked at assume that you already have Windows running; my

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-27 Thread Carl Johnson
Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I used to run chrony (with difficulty) but ran into a problem with my new box: it couldn't access the hwclock. If I told it not to, (so that the hwclock shutdown script could work), it really messed up my time. So I switched to ntp. I access the

Re: Unable to use a new USB drive.

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:30:08PM -0500, Roby wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:26:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:37:11PM -0500, Roby wrote: Only a guess, but is the USB_STORAGE module loaded? No. it isn't. I guess a

Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread Marty
Mitchell Verter wrote: I am hoping that someone can direct me to the best instructions on the web for setting up a dual-boot system running Debian and NT. Most of the HOW-TOs I've looked at assume that you already have Windows running; my case is the reverse. The computer already has Debian

Re: Java and Debian

2007-01-27 Thread Danesh Daroui
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:01, Marc Shapiro wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 10:58, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hi all, I have tried to install JDK5 on debian and it installed without problem by running: apt-get install sun-java5-jdk

[OT] Re: A simple question

2007-01-27 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/26/07 19:28, s. keeling wrote: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. Yes they are. Unless you want to be investigated by Them. The NSA the RCMP are suspicious of anyone running desktop Linux (too many freethinkers), and are

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-27 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 16:47 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: Are there plans to eventually replace some features in Iceweasel with open source versions that could eventually find their way into the Firefox source tree -- eventually replacing all the non-free features? And is any functionality

Re: A simple question

2007-01-27 Thread s. keeling
Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:28 +, s. keeling wrote: And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid those three. Try out some of the other wm's. You might like them. Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available.

Re: [OT] Dilbert cartoon featurng Linux

2007-01-27 Thread s. keeling
Rob Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:08:20AM +, s. keeling wrote: He's suggesting a nickel would get him a better computer than what he's using. That's a pretty damning indictment. A nickel can't buy a computer in any way, shape or form. Are you kidding? I

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installsand security

2007-01-27 Thread Hodgins Family
to create a default set of rules that would work for many people. The default set of rules only needs to get people through the installation safely. After that, they can alter them with their favourite program, as needed. The rules here:

Re: net install using USB flash disc

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:54:34PM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: Hi guys, I'm having no luck following this howto: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en I just get the following: Non-System disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready I tried both

Re: Scheduling FTP / HTTP downloads?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:49:52PM +0100, Mark wrote: Hello all, I was hoping you may have an idea what to use for the following problem: At work we have a 1Mbit line download and upload. But still sometimes people here try to download 350Mb or more over that little tiny wire. We have

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 03:30:48AM +, Tyler wrote: In the meantime, how does one check for bad blocks and bad ram? I have the pre-installed fsck running every 30th boot, and so far no errors have ever been reported. Check the man page for the filesystem-specific fscker (honest, I'm

Re: Java and Debian

2007-01-27 Thread Hal Vaughan
PLEASE! Do NOT send HTML messages on this group. I'm not the only one who has issues with them! Some mail readers can't deal with them. On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:37, Danesh Daroui wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Saturday 27 January 2007 12:01, Marc Shapiro wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote:

Partitioning Safely?

2007-01-27 Thread Mitchell Verter
Thanks for all the dual boot advice. Now I need to partition the disk and move the Linux partition to the second partition I am looking at the Linux Partition HOWTO (http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/) and the parted manual ( http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/parted.html#Introduction) I

Re: Scheduling FTP / HTTP downloads?

2007-01-27 Thread Bud Rogers
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:34, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:49:52PM +0100, Mark wrote: I was hoping that there are programs/webinterfaces out there that can take this load off of our shoulders and download things during the night? If user's can append a url

Re: [OT] Re: A simple question

2007-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 17:52, s. keeling wrote: Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/26/07 19:28, s. keeling wrote: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are not the only choices available. Yes they are. Unless you want to be investigated by Them. The NSA the RCMP are

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-27 Thread Stef Daniels VK5HSX
Greetings, After attempting to do changeover from Ubtunu 6.06 to Debian Etch by changing sources.list and doing a #apt-get dist-upgrade, I ended up having to grab the net-install image and do the installation that way. I ran into several problems that become hard to overcome. Some crutial

Re: A simple question

2007-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 18:00, s. keeling wrote: Sven Arvidsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:28 +, s. keeling wrote: [snip] Not necessary with any sort of net connection. It doesn't take long to apt-get/aptitude/synaptic install a wm.

Re: Partitioning Safely?

2007-01-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 19:00, Mitchell Verter wrote: [snip] I bought the laptop with Debian installed, so I know little about it. I don't think there is much data on it and I probably don't care about keeping old data, just preserving important system

Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Saturday 27 January 2007 18:09, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:42:42 -0800 - resize linux partitions (cfdisk, parted, ...) For non destructively resizing partitions, I have previously used qtparted and I found that the GUI is pretty neat and intuitive. I have no qualms in

xorg mouse/touchpad issues on a sony laptop

2007-01-27 Thread Robert D. Crawford
I have just done an install on a Sony r505 laptop and have some issues that I have never seen concerning the touchpad. Pointer motion is painfully slow. I have tried reconfiguring the xserver, changing the corepointer from the configured mouse to the synaptics, changing the acceleration in

Dell i600m - broadcom 4306 wifi problem in etch.

2007-01-27 Thread L . V . Gandhi
I used to work with this wifi comfortably in sarge with ndiswrapper. In etch i have problems. first bcm43xx driver didn't work with the firmware extracted automatically while installation and also from the working driver in windows. I copied the files as read in /lib/hotplug/firmware. I have read

Re: dialup connectivity problem

2007-01-27 Thread Zach
On 1/27/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't suppose you told pppconfig to make it an on-demand connection? Hi Douglas, Exactly how can I enable this? Personally, I also use the persist option so that it redials if the connection dies. Cool. How can I enable this

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:01:43PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 19:03, Hodgins Family wrote: Many people are installing Debian from the internet. Yet, the Securing Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the

Re: Raid trouble

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:26:01AM -0800, Land Haj wrote: Hi! I decided to try etch out and use raid-1. All went fine until I mounted one of the raid disks from another debian installation on the same computer, to

Re: Debian/NT Dual Boot?

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:42:42PM -0800, Mitchell Verter wrote: I am hoping that someone can direct me to the best instructions on the web for setting up a dual-boot system running Debian and NT. Most of the HOW-TOs I've looked at assume that you already have Windows running; my case is the

Re: aditional partition parameter

2007-01-27 Thread Thilo Six
Sven Arvidsson wrote the following on 27.01.2007 23:51: There are a variety of programs that will fail if /tmp is not executable. In general, the noexec flag is really not very useful because it is trivial to work around. At least the /lib/ld-linux.so.2 work around shouldn't work anymore

Re: dialup connectivity problem

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:49:06PM -0500, Zach wrote: On 1/27/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't suppose you told pppconfig to make it an on-demand connection? Hi Douglas, Exactly how can I enable this? Personally, I also use the persist option so that it redials

Re: USB Flash Memory permissions

2007-01-27 Thread Wang Xu
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:49:39PM +, John Talbut wrote: As I understand it, Gnome Volume Manager, invokes pmount-hal which passes back settings from hal and hal gets settings from udev. I have looked through the various udev rules files and anything to do with hal and I cannot work

Re: dialup connectivity problem

2007-01-27 Thread John Hasler
Zach writes: Exactly how can I enable [dial on demand]? Change-provider name-Advanced-Demand How can I enable [persist] also? Change-provider name-Advanced-Persist -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: apt-listbugs behavior (was libpangocairo and gimp...)

2007-01-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:15:19AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 12:12:44PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: use aptitude interactively and ':' will hold a package at its current level. also, '?' within apt-listbugs allows you to pin the packages, but I've not

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 27, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: I used to run chrony (with difficulty) but ran into a problem with my new box: it couldn't access the hwclock. If I told it not to, (so that the hwclock shutdown script could work), it really messed up my time. So I switched to ntp.

Modem connection dropping Debian Etch

2007-01-27 Thread John Kerr Anderson
John Kerr Anderson wrote: Hello everyone, I have a very annoying problem. I am trying to download some new programs via aptitude and notice that my modem connection keeps dropping out after 5 - 10 minutes. The connection keeps dropping esp. if I try to check a web-page out while it is

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