Re: wheezy debit tres bas sur la carte reseau eth0

2014-08-10 Thread Frederic Robert
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 01:37:00AM +0200, Christophe wrote: Toutefois, si tu tiens à conserver l'expérience utilisateur du : je branche une clé USB = ça monte, rien de tel qu'une distrib sous Linux. (on est pas tout à fait dans le même monde ;) ). Bonjour, Bonsoir Christophe et à la liste,

Retour d'expérience sur la gestion de son propre depôt

2014-08-10 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, La période estivale est propice aux bonnes résolutions et à la prospective. Je gère quelques dizaines de serveurs sur lesquels il m'arrive d'installer des logiciels à partir de leurs sources (avec le classique configure, make, make install). Certains de ces logiciels ne sont pas

Re: wheezy debit tres bas sur la carte reseau eth0

2014-08-10 Thread BERTRAND Joël
Christophe wrote: Bonjour, Le 10/08/2014 00:17, Frederic Robert a écrit : On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 01:38:58PM +0200, BERTRAND Joël wrote: Bof... Je t'écris depuis un Acer Aspire 1700 sous un FreeBSD des familles (parce qu'ill se bauge moins qu'un Linux sur cette machine bugguée jusqu'à

problème multiarch Sid

2014-08-10 Thread maderios
Bonjour Je suis en amd64. Le multiarch fonctionne normalement avec stable et testing mais je rencontre un truc étrange avec Sid. Quand je souhaite installer un paquet:i386, Apt veut désinstaller le paquet équivalent amd64, exemple, gcc, libc6, etc. Bizarrement, j'ai pu installer

Résolu_Re: problème multiarch Sid

2014-08-10 Thread maderios
On 08/10/2014 04:38 PM, maderios wrote: Bonjour Je suis en amd64. Le multiarch fonctionne normalement avec stable et testing mais je rencontre un truc étrange avec Sid. Quand je souhaite installer un paquet:i386, Apt veut désinstaller le paquet équivalent amd64, exemple, gcc, libc6, etc. C'est

Re: Résolu_Re: problème multiarch Sid

2014-08-10 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le dimanche 10 août 2014, 18:59:43 maderios a écrit : On 08/10/2014 04:38 PM, maderios wrote: Bonjour Je suis en amd64. Le multiarch fonctionne normalement avec stable et testing mais je rencontre un truc étrange avec Sid. Quand je souhaite installer un paquet:i386, Apt veut

Re: Résolu_Re: problème multiarch Sid

2014-08-10 Thread maderios
On 08/10/2014 07:59 PM, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote: Le dimanche 10 août 2014, 18:59:43 maderios a écrit : On 08/10/2014 04:38 PM, maderios wrote: Bonjour Je suis en amd64. Le multiarch fonctionne normalement avec stable et testing mais je rencontre un truc étrange avec Sid. Quand je souhaite

Re: Apache File permissions /var/www/

2014-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:50:38 -0500, Juan Pablo Jaramillo Pineda escribió: Buenas noches lista, Leyendo un poco en la Wiki de Debian me encuentro con lo siguiente[1]: For historical reasons, the Apache runs as a user named www-data. This is somewhat misleading since normally, the files in

Re: Apache File permissions /var/www/

2014-08-10 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 10 ago 2014 a las 07:50 horas (UTC+2), Juan Pablo Jaramillo Pineda escribió: Buenas noches lista, Leyendo un poco en la Wiki de Debian me encuentro con lo siguiente[1]: For historical reasons, the Apache runs as a user named www-data. This is somewhat misleading since normally, the

Re: Apache File permissions /var/www/

2014-08-10 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 10 ago 2014 a las 12:38 horas (UTC+2), Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:50:38 -0500, Juan Pablo Jaramillo Pineda escribió: Buenas noches lista, Leyendo un poco en la Wiki de Debian me encuentro con lo siguiente[1]: For historical reasons, the Apache runs as a user

Re: Apache File permissions /var/www/

2014-08-10 Thread Manolo Díaz
El domingo, 10 ago 2014 a las 16:26 horas (UTC+2), Manolo Díaz escribió: El domingo, 10 ago 2014 a las 07:50 horas (UTC+2), Juan Pablo Jaramillo Pineda escribió: Buenas noches lista, Leyendo un poco en la Wiki de Debian me encuentro con lo siguiente[1]: For historical reasons, the Apache runs

Re: [OT] Vigilancia informática

2014-08-10 Thread Petronilo Sanchez
Buen día 2014-08-07 8:47 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 06 Aug 2014 21:52:20 -0300, Francisco Del Roio escribió: El 06/08/2014 02:25 p.m., Camale�n escribió: (...) Empiezo: creo que está bien que se vigile el contenido del tráfico de las redes, sea del contenido que sea,

Re: [OT] Vigilancia informática

2014-08-10 Thread Francisco Del Roio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El 06/08/2014 01:38 p.m., Francisco Del Roio escribió: Hola, Hace un buen tiempo vengo siguiendo el blog de Chema Alonso, seguro que muchos de vosotros lo conocéis incluso personalmente. Hoy publicó un artículo[1] en su blog que me llamó la

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-10 Thread Per Andersson
Hi! On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br wrote: Hi, That's my first mail to this list. Unfortunately in english. Welcome! For this year, I setup a meeting to celebrate Debian Day, in Kista.

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-10 Thread Helio Loureiro
Hi, I just joined this list now. This is my first baby steps in Sweden :-) But feel free to share. The idea is to start more meetings to have Debian users meeting each other. Share stories, technical point of views and have some beer (or coke) at the same time. Abs, Helio Loureiro

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-10 Thread Martin Jernberg
Cool might try to come if i have time :) On 8/10/14, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br wrote: Hi, I just joined this list now. This is my first baby steps in Sweden :-) But feel free to share. The idea is to start more meetings to have Debian users meeting each other. Share stories,

Re: Re: skype

2014-08-10 Thread Shutdown -h now
Cara, Para atualizar o skype via gerenciador de pacotes, abra um terminal e execute os seguintes comandos (como root): apt-get update# Atualiza a lista interna de repositórios apt-get upgrade skype # Atualiza o pacote 'skype', e suas respectivas dependências. Att, Em 9 de agosto de 2014

Res: Re: Re: skype

2014-08-10 Thread jmhenrique
Ola ! Voce poderia me passar a entrada do sources.list para fazer isso? A que eu tinha parou de funcionar assim q a microsoft comprou o skype. Grato Enviado pelo meu aparelho BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Shutdown -h now sh11td...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:40:19 To:

Re: Res: skype

2014-08-10 Thread Andre N Batista
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 12:57:03PM +, jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Atualize o skype. Enviado pelo meu aparelho BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Cecilia Gonzalez ceciepr...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:55:40 To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Subject:

Re: Res: skype

2014-08-10 Thread Alexandre Martins
Eu tive esse mesmo problema, e só consegui arrumar fazendo a atualização da forma que citei anteriormente! Em 10 de agosto de 2014 20:03, Andre N Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com escreveu: On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 12:57:03PM +, jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br wrote: Atualize o skype. Enviado

Re: skype

2014-08-10 Thread G.Paulo
Microsoft disponibilizou nova versão do Skype. Se você usa o Debian Weezy, como eu, não adianta apt-get upgrade, porque a versão atual do respositório não é aceita mais pelo Skype. Se você usa o Debian testing, então, talvez A solução definitiva é baixar a versao do site do Skype e

Re: disable keyboard outside of X Windows too

2014-08-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:02:13 +0800 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson jida...@jidanni.org wrote: So how can I do it (and not zap the USB keyboard at the same time)? This should disable your PS/2 keyboard both in the console or X: echo -n manual /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio0/bind_mode echo -n serio1

Re: understanding Debian support on ARM architecture

2014-08-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:40:05 +0300 Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, according to wiki, Debian is supported on little-endian ARM architecture. However, then wiki lists some sub-architectures which are supported. For example iop32x, ixp4xx, kirkwood and orion5x. Does this mean

Re: Mounting a FreeBSD USB Memory Stick Image rw

2014-08-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:34:35 +1000 Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: Pity we don't have a generic FUSE module to run -all- filesystems in userspace (as/when needed), so we could simply toggle 'experimental' features on easily. Yet we do have UFS2 FUSE implementation :)

RE: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:46:51 + Rodolfo Medina sent: snip I've always used `halt' to shutdown the machine. Is `poweroff' proper to do that? Rodolfo poweroff doesn't work for me, but I tried it as root, next time I use it I will try it as user and see if it works then.

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Within months of my switch, oops, here comes systemd. Consider switching to the Debian/kFreeBSD. It's the same Debian, yet there won't be no systemd in the foreseeable future. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Report a testing update bug?

2014-08-10 Thread Felix Natter
hi, I've seen sed: -e expression #1, char 6: unknown command: `m' when updating my testing system: --- Setting up virtualbox-dkms (4.3.14-dfsg-1) ... Loading new virtualbox-4.3.14 DKMS files... Building for 3.14-1-amd64 and 3.14-2-amd64 Building

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 9 Aug 2014 23:49:37 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk napísal: On Sat 09 Aug 2014 at 16:47:54 -0400, AW wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Hi all, Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to

Re: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir

2014-08-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 aug 14, 14:58:15, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm still not sure why it isn't in testing at the moment, http://tracker.debian.org/encfs and click on the question mark next to The package has not entered testing even though the delay is over The rest should be self-explanatory. but as

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 09/08/14 22:26, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program. 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gunge (in this case Plymouth) 3) To get closer to the Unix Philosophy

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 August 2014 08:37:24 Slavko wrote: I consider these posts as not OT. No-one said that they were OT. Merely that this list is about Debian in general, not only systemd, and the subject has been done to death. If some of you don't like it, write the software you want. Or pay

Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Floris
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:32:00 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: snip Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2 keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2 Nvidia video cards with 2 monitors attached and 2 USB mice and I run systemd, then it will figure out

Disk space usage

2014-08-10 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, I have a strange issue with wheezy 7.6.0 : the system complains for only left 487 Mo on the ROOT level. But a : du -shx * on the ROOT shows : 7.3M bin 18M boot 0 dev 125M emul 12M etc 185G home 0 initrd.img 148M lib 4.0K lib64 16K lost+found 28K media 4.0K mnt 1.4G opt du: cannot access

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George Shuklin george.shuk...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin george.shuk...@gmail.com wrote: dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. When I add new version I make

Re: Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Floris
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:16:58 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:32:00 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: snip Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2 keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2 Nvidia video cards with 2 monitors

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bob Proulx a écrit : Mike McClain wrote: __ | Debian| LAN| Windows 2000 | Inet|Linux|-| S40 | (ppp) | 192.168.1.2 |

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 6:33 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote: I moved the script from /etc/init.d to /etc/network directory and changed the shebang line

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Mike McClain a écrit : On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:13:23PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Same as Nemeth Gyorgy : restart without any filtering, just the IP forwarding and masquerading. If it does not work, it's not due to filtering. Then when everything works add the filtering. All

Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: And what is that google-chrome-unstable deb? Does that have a version number? $ apt-cache show google-chrome-unstable | grep Ver Version: 38.0.2114.2-1 $ apt-cache show google-chrome-beta | grep Ver Version:

Re: TCP fast open IPv6

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Georgi Naplatanov a écrit : I thought that IPv4 and IPv6 use the same implementation for TCP fast open and I just wondered why /proc/sys/net/ipv6/tcp_fastopen doesn't exist on my Jessie system. AFACS, there are no /proc/sys/net/ipv6/tcp_* parameters at all. When applicable, TCP connections

Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid

2014-08-10 Thread John Holland
Sorry, if you do a google search on google-chrome-unstable you can find google's page where you can download that deb. #dpkg -i google-chrome-unstable.deb #apt-get -f install (this is on Sid VM) On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 21:51:41 -0500 Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote: John Holland

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Mike McClain a écrit : from a zsh prompt: Mike zsh:~ nslookup Default Server: resolver1.opendns.com Address: 208.67.222.222 Didn't return. Of course not. If you don't provide a domain name to query in the command line, nslookup just sits there and waits for a command or a name to query.

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 4:47 PM, AW debian.list.trac...@1024bits.com wrote: On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program.

Re: Disk space usage

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Diogene Laerce a écrit : I have a strange issue with wheezy 7.6.0 : the system complains for only left 487 Mo on the ROOT level. But a : [...] where /boot, /etc, /home, /opt, /tmp, /usr, /var and / are on their own partitions. What's the output of df -h ? So please, anyone knows

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Tom H a écrit : Please bottom-post. Please don't. It's annoying to have to scroll down all the (needlessly) quoted text to read your reply. Top-posting is bad, but bottom-posting without trimming a long quoted text is worse. Consider interleaved/inline posting with proper trimming instead.

Fsck Every ## Mounts

2014-08-10 Thread David Baron
On my previous 32-bit system, I would get fsck run on filesystems every so-many mounts. Was using ext3 with some ext4 extensions. Could take a bit on multi- hundred gig partitions but assumed a necessity to keep things playing. On my new 64-bit system with ext4 filesystems, I have yet to see

Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread David Baron
With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to lilo. Now have all that text back. Is there an append= or lilo.conf entry to control/eliminate the text playback? -- To

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 1:15 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Tom H wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I believe the point was that it should be make before break. They should have allowed people to use systemd without preventing people from not using it. They didn't make a new system without

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread Sven Hartge
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Remove quit from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub, run update-grub. S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Fsck Every ## Mounts

2014-08-10 Thread Sven Hartge
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: On my previous 32-bit system, I would get fsck run on filesystems every so-many mounts. Was using ext3 with some ext4 extensions. Could take a bit on multi- hundred gig partitions but assumed a necessity to keep things playing. On my new 64-bit system

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 10 August 2014 13:13:13 Sven Hartge wrote: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Remove quit from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub, run update-grub. S° Thanks, but I

Re: Software compatibility between different architectures?

2014-08-10 Thread Martin T
how compatible are drivers on ports for different CPU architectures, e.g. I have a USB HSDPA modem which works great on Wheezy port for x86 architecture, but can I expect it to work on Wheezy port for ARM? If your ARM platform's USB driver works, then yes, you can expect the exact same

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 14:22:56 +0300, David Baron wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2014 13:13:13 Sven Hartge wrote: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Remove quit from

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 6:36 AM, David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to lilo. Now have all that text back. Is there an append= or

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread Sven Hartge
David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2014 13:13:13 Sven Hartge wrote: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Remove quit from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub,

Re: Software compatibility between different architectures?

2014-08-10 Thread Sven Hartge
Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote: how compatible are drivers on ports for different CPU architectures, e.g. I have a USB HSDPA modem which works great on Wheezy port for x86 architecture, but can I expect it to work on Wheezy port for ARM? If your ARM platform's USB driver works, then yes,

Re: Software compatibility between different architectures?

2014-08-10 Thread Joel Rees
2014/08/10 20:30 Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com: how compatible are drivers on ports for different CPU architectures, e.g. I have a USB HSDPA modem which works great on Wheezy port for x86 architecture, but can I expect it to work on Wheezy port for ARM? If your ARM platform's USB driver

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Wanderer: While using Wheezy starting to use poweroff is the proper way to migrate from halt. But I do agree, it might have been a good idea to communicate this in a better way. That's

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 5:26 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 2:18 PM, George Shuklin george.shuk...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote: From the man page: --increment, -i Increment either the final component of the Debian release num-

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-08-10 14:46 +0200, The Wanderer wrote: On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: quote- If halt or reboot is called when the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6, in other words when it's running normally, shutdown will be invoked instead (with the -h or -r flag). For more

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/10/2014 09:12 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-08-10 14:46 +0200, The Wanderer wrote: On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: quote- If halt or reboot is called when the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6, in other words

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Charlie: According to the man pages all 3, halt, poweroff and reboot, use the shutdown command to perform the necessary steps when not starting in runlevel 0 or 6, which is

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:45:04 + Bonno Bloksma sent: Charlie: According to the man pages all 3, halt, poweroff and reboot, use the shutdown command to perform the necessary steps when not starting in runlevel 0 or 6, which is pretty much always. So it is really weird that in your case

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: If halt or reboot is called when the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6, in other

Re: Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Floris wrote: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:16:58 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:32:00 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: snip Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2 keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2 Nvidia video cards with

Re: Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Floris wrote: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:16:58 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:32:00 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: snip Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2 keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2

Re: understanding Debian support on ARM architecture

2014-08-10 Thread Martin T
Reco, thanks for this explanation! Could you please explain this hardware enumeration provided by x86/x86-64 CPU's to kernel bit more? What kind of information is provided to kernel in case of x86/x86-64 CPU? thanks, Martin On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/10/2014 02:45 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: If halt or reboot is called when the system is not in

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 08:32 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/09/2014 12:24 PM, Gary Dale wrote: However I can see you wanting them to be out of the way. par2 actually puts them in the current directory unless you tell it differently so you could for example do: cd /mnt/datadrive/.par2/stuff par2

Re: understanding Debian support on ARM architecture

2014-08-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:09:58 +0300 Martin T m4rtn...@gmail.com wrote: Reco, thanks for this explanation! Could you please explain this hardware enumeration provided by x86/x86-64 CPU's to kernel bit more? What kind of information is provided to kernel in case of x86/x86-64 CPU? Sure:

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-10 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/10/2014 10:15 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 08/10/2014 09:26 AM, Tom H wrote: halt/poweroff/reboot have called shutdown at least since 6/squeeze. Ah, so that may be a

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
If some of you don't like it, write the software you want. Or pay someone to write it. But enough already. Doesn't guarantee that Debian will decide to use it. I think the right way is to submit bug-reports about particular problems you find in systemd. Maybe that won't cause a change to

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 06:02 PM, AW wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:37:52 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: The speed of the check is usually limited by the speed of reading the file(s) from disk. A par2 check is more direct and will also automatically repair any bit rot that has

Re: [OT] [politics] Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 09 August 2014 21:42:32 Iain M Conochie wrote: I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It is obvious what the NSA want to do (snoop), I'm not so sure what google want to do. Almost 300

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 August 2014 15:50:29 Stefan Monnier wrote: If some of you don't like it, write the software you want. Or pay someone to write it. But enough already. Doesn't guarantee that Debian will decide to use it. No - but the individuals concerned can. I think the right way is to

Re: Fsck Every ## Mounts

2014-08-10 Thread Gary Dale
On 10/08/14 07:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: On my previous 32-bit system, I would get fsck run on filesystems every so-many mounts. Was using ext3 with some ext4 extensions. Could take a bit on multi- hundred gig partitions but assumed a necessity to keep

Suppressing pushd output

2014-08-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, In my shell (bash) scripts, I occasionally use pushd/popd to descend into subdirectories; pushd $dir; do_something; popd Unfortunately the pushd/popd generate a lot of (mostly) unwanted output, with no apparent way of suppressing it. So, my solution is: pushd $dir /dev/null; do_something;

Re: Suppressing pushd output

2014-08-10 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:03:20 +0200 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: DEBUG=1 if [ $DEBUG -eq 0 ]; then NULLOUT='/dev/null' fi pushd $dir ${NULLOUT}; do_something; popd ${NULLOUT} Try it like this: #DEBUG=1 OUT=/dev/null [ -z $DEBUG ] OUT=/dev/stdout pushd $dir

Re: par2

2014-08-10 Thread AW
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:50:42 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Your results... The test was only a very simple comparison. If you want a more thorough test, it's certainly much better to break everything out the way you have listed... and it's probably best done on the chosen and

Towards an instructive minimalist intall of Openbox

2014-08-10 Thread Richard Owlett
My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally isolated from internet ;) History: When initially moving from Windows to Debian, installed Squeeze

Re: since demise of encfs what to use for encrypting dir

2014-08-10 Thread Andre N Batista
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:16:17AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 04 aug 14, 14:58:15, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm still not sure why it isn't in testing at the moment, http://tracker.debian.org/encfs and click on the question mark next to The package has not entered testing even

Re: Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Floris
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: ... 'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks! I forgot to ask: is systemd also necessary? Hugo you need loginctl, so the

Re: Disk space usage

2014-08-10 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Suggestion to do: du / -hx --max-depth=1 (this doesn't show the mount points like /home or /sys) If this does not add up to the size of the root partition, then mount --bind / /mnt du /mnt -hx --max-depth=1 If this adds up to approximately the size of the root partition, there's

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-10 Thread Mike McClain
On Sat, Aug 09, 2014 at 10:30:53PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Mike McClain wrote: Pascal Hambourg wrote: Please describe your network topology. Where's the Win2k box ? __ | Debian| LAN

Re: Towards an instructive minimalist intall of Openbox

2014-08-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Aug 2014 at 10:46:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [Snip} What should I be reading to understand: 1. what would be minimal set of programs to install? minimal can mean different things to different people and different things to the same person at different times. Narrowing down

Re: Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Floris wrote: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: ... 'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the hardware lying around. Any further links are welcome. Thanks! I forgot to ask: is systemd also necessary? Hugo you need

Re: Towards an instructive minimalist intall of Openbox

2014-08-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally isolated from

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:51:30 +0400 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: Within months of my switch, oops, here comes systemd. Consider switching to the Debian/kFreeBSD. It's the same Debian, yet there

Re: Disk space usage

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Jörg-Volker Peetz a écrit : And what is the meaning of Go? Giga-octet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53e7a3b7.8000...@plouf.fr.eu.org

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:37:10 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 10 August 2014 08:37:24 Slavko wrote: I consider these posts as not OT. No-one said that they were OT. Merely that this list is about Debian in general, not only systemd, and the subject has been done to

Re: Irony

2014-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:26:22 +0200 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: On 09/08/14 22:26, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program. 2) To get rid

Re: Suppressing pushd output

2014-08-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Tony van der Hoff wrote: Unfortunately the pushd/popd generate a lot of (mostly) unwanted output, with no apparent way of suppressing it. Do you have CDPATH set? If CDPATH is set then there is ambiguity over where the cd actually went since it may be one of the CDPATH components. If so the

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debian in any other way), has said on his blog it seems eventually GNOME will head to be systemd and

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-10 Thread Erwan David
Le 10/08/2014 19:23, Steve Litt a écrit : On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 06:35:54 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Olav Vitters, a Gnome guy who always argues on behalf of Gnome/systemd on debian-devel@ (I don't think that he's involved in Debian in any other way), has said on his blog it seems

Re: Quiet Bootups

2014-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 13:36:43 +0300 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il wrote: With Grub, I did not see that endless stream of text pouring on the screen to rapidly to read. Because I (presumably) know how to configure it, I have gone back to lilo. Now have all that text back. Is there an append=

Re: Suppressing pushd output

2014-08-10 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/10/2014 01:20 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: Unfortunately the pushd/popd generate a lot of (mostly) unwanted output, with no apparent way of suppressing it. Do you have CDPATH set? If CDPATH is set then there is

Re: Setup a Nvidia multiseat

2014-08-10 Thread Floris
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:02:42 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: Floris wrote: Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 15:49:38 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com: ... 'Tis amazing. I am going to have to try this because I have the hardware lying around. Any further links are

Re: Bug#736258: acpid won't stop, won't upgrade (systemd) - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=736258

2014-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Sorry about the delay in responding. Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org writes: Large time outs can cause bad side-efects on surprising ways. If the socket is down, you get an immediate connection refused reply, which short-circuits the time out. As this is a generic feature, we

Re: Towards an instructive minimalist intall of Openbox

2014-08-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:46:56 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: My goal: understand Debian from a fairly low level on up Environment: a laptop dedicated exclusively as a learning environment Resources: complete DVD sets for Squeeze and Wheezy (totally isolated from

Re: Suppressing pushd output

2014-08-10 Thread Bob Proulx
The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: If you don't need CDPATH then try unsetting it. Is CDPATH used at all by pushd / popd? I don't see any indication of that in bash(1), but since cd itself isn't involved here AFAICT, bringing up CDPATH wouldn't seem to make sense otherwise. Well we are

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