Re: [testing] cheese ne fonctionne pas

2014-09-29 Thread Émile CARRY
Le 28/09/2014 20:22, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : J'ai vu que la version de sid n'est pas la même. Est-ce que quelqu'un sous sid peut dire si le problème est présent ? J'ai le même pb sous sid avec la même erreur Dans la négative ça ne sert pas à grand chose de faire un rapport, non ? Il y a

Debian et Enlightenment

2014-09-29 Thread maderios
Bonjour Quelques questions concernant Debian, Enlightenment et les EFL Je découvre que les mainteneurs Debian mettent en avant une page Enlightenment obsolète proposant une version obsolète, la 18-RC2 datée de décembre 2013 et présentée comme A new upstream version :

Re: [testing] cheese ne fonctionne pas

2014-09-29 Thread Jean-Marc
Mon, 29 Sep 2014 08:12:06 +0200 Émile CARRY milou-duf.anti-s...@achelem.org écrivait : Le 28/09/2014 20:22, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : J'ai vu que la version de sid n'est pas la même. Est-ce que quelqu'un sous sid peut dire si le problème est présent ? J'ai le même pb sous sid avec la

précisions_Debian et Enlightenment

2014-09-29 Thread maderios
On 09/29/2014 10:56 AM, maderios wrote: Bonjour Quelques questions concernant Debian, Enlightenment et les EFL Je découvre que les mainteneurs Debian mettent en avant une page Enlightenment obsolète proposant une version obsolète, la 18-RC2 datée de décembre 2013 et présentée comme A new

Problème Internet après màj

2014-09-29 Thread Pierre Willaime
Bonjour, Après une mise à jour de Sid aujourd'hui, j'ai perdu ma connexion internet. Depuis cette màj, nm-applet (que j'utilise sous Xfce) se connecte à mon réseau Wifi mais pas à Internet. C'est le même problème pour une connexion filaire (connexion réussie mais impossible d'accéder à la

RE: précisions_Debian et Enlightenment

2014-09-29 Thread valentin OVD
En fait cela signifie juste que le mainteneur du paquet a précisé un mauvais lien dans son debian/watch. -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : maderiosmailto:mader...@gmail.com Envoyé : ‎29/‎09/‎2014 14:18 À :

Antivirus y antispam en Postfix

2014-09-29 Thread Josu Lazkano
Buenos dias, Sigo configurando mi servidor de correo, esta vez me toca afinar un poco Postfix. Lo que quiero es activar el antispam para no llenar las cuentas de basura. He estado leyendo y lo que mas se utiliza es el SpamAssassin. Esta es mi configuracion con cuentas de sistema: # cat

Compatibilidad controladora de discos con Debian Wheezy

2014-09-29 Thread Maykel Franco
Hola buenas, mirando las especificaciones de esta controladora, no veo que soporte debian: HP Smart Array P420 Controller Es lo tipico, reconoce los sitemas operativos de soporte: Operating Systems Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Microsoft Windows Server 2008 Microsoft Windows Server 2012 Red Hat

Re: Saber que paquetes dependen de un determinado repositorio

2014-09-29 Thread Mauro Antivero
El 25/09/14 a las 14:19, Juan José López escibió: El Thu, 25 Sep 2014 12:38:02 -0300 Mauro Antivero mauro.antiv...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados, tengo un par de equipos corriendo Debian Squeeze con los repositorios Backports y Proposed Updates activados. Me gustaría saber si es posible

mi primer bash

2014-09-29 Thread Daxko
Buen dia No se si esta bien el titulo pero quisiera hacer una simple programita que lea un block de nota y que ejecute unos comandos en el terminal y cada línea separa por un punto y coma represente un comando diferente mi explico, será una lista de descarga. Block

Re: Configurar Dovecot

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:19:10 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió: Gracias a los dos, He activado el MD5-DIGEST: # doveconf -n | grep auth_mechanisms auth_mechanisms = digest-md5 No es conveniente que dejes únicamente ese sistema de autentificación (por lo que dice la documentación), añádelo

Re: [OT] Recupercion de archivos grandes

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:28:28 -0400, Fredy Guio escribió: Hola lista. Tengo una duda. Alguien a intentado recuperar archivos borrados, con la aplicacion nftsundelete ? Será ntfsundelete. No, no lo he probado. Una única vez tuve que recuperar datos de un volumen NTFS y obviamente usé

Apagón repentino (Era: Bash vulnerable)

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:34:00 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: buenas noches comunidad recientemente hace 20min me encontraba navegando por la web cuando la maquina se apago pero se apago como si con la root le fueran puesto poweroff ¿Y qué ves en los registros? ¿Alguna orden de

RV: mi primer bash

2014-09-29 Thread Daxko
Buen dia No se si esta bien el titulo pero quisiera hacer una simple programita que lea un block de nota y que ejecute unos comandos en el terminal y cada línea separa por un punto y coma represente un comando diferente mi explico, será una lista de descarga. Block

Re: Compatibilidad controladora de discos con Debian Wheezy

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:25:09 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: Hola buenas, mirando las especificaciones de esta controladora, no veo que soporte debian: HP Smart Array P420 Controller (...) Para controladoras HP mira por aquí: http://cciss.sourceforge.net/ Según esa página, debería estar

Re: Antivirus y antispam en Postfix

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 08:30:26 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió: Sigo configurando mi servidor de correo, esta vez me toca afinar un poco Postfix. Lo que quiero es activar el antispam para no llenar las cuentas de basura. He estado leyendo y lo que mas se utiliza es el SpamAssassin. (...) Para

Error postfix/ldap - Temporary lookup failure

2014-09-29 Thread Marcos Germán Capelari
Hola, Desde anoche estoy teniendo problemas con un server de mail, el tema es que no esta entregando correos, pero si recibe. A alguien le ha pasado? 220 firewall ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU) helo server 250 firewall mail from:admin@localhost 250 2.1.0 Ok rcpt to:root@localhost.interno 451 4.3.0

[OT] Re: mi primer bash

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 08:51:39 -0430, Daxko escribió: Buen dia Malos para quienes no usamos un lector de correo con soporte html. Hay que mandar los mensajes a la lista en texto plano ;-) No se si esta bien el titulo Mi primer programa en bash quizá sería más adecuado pero en cualquier caso

Re: Error postfix/ldap - Temporary lookup failure

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:50:46 -0300, Marcos Germán Capelari escribió: Hola, Desde anoche estoy teniendo problemas con un server de mail, el tema es que no esta entregando correos, pero si recibe. A alguien le ha pasado? ¿Y te ha pasado así sin más, de repente, sin hacer nada, sin actualizar

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:07:11 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 28/09/14 a las 19:02, Manolo Díaz escribió: El domingo, 28 sep 2014 a las 18:55 horas (UTC+2), Eduardo Rios escribió: El 28/09/14 a las 18:03, Fabián Bonetti escribió: Esas no son las pruebas correctas. Las correctas están

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Monday 29 September 2014 14:14:53 Camaleón wrote: Pues ya puedes volver al modo paranoico que esto no ha acabado: Further flaws render Shellshock patch ineffective http://www.itnews.com.au/News/396256,further-flaws-render-shellshock-patch-i neffective.aspx Saludos malvados :-) ¿Es

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:30:32 +0200, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso escribió: On Monday 29 September 2014 14:14:53 Camaleón wrote: Pues ya puedes volver al modo paranoico que esto no ha acabado: Further flaws render Shellshock patch ineffective

Re: Error postfix/ldap - Temporary lookup failure

2014-09-29 Thread Marcos Germán Capelari
Hola, actualice bash por cuestiones de seguridad. Pero eso fue el viernes y esto paso anoche. Esto puede servir, sino dime que datos necesitas: Sep 29 11:13:18 firewall dovecot: pop3-login: Login: user=test1, method=PLAIN, rip=172.21.0.3, lip=172.21.0.152 Sep 29 11:13:18 firewall dovecot:

Re: Error postfix/ldap - Temporary lookup failure

2014-09-29 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:12:25 -0300, Marcos Germán Capelari escribió: Hola, actualice bash por cuestiones de seguridad. Pero eso fue el viernes y esto paso anoche. ¿Y no había ninguna actualización más de otros paquetes? Esto puede servir, sino dime que datos necesitas: (...) Sep 29

Re: RV: mi primer bash

2014-09-29 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 29-09-2014 a las 09:07 -0430, Daxko escribió: Buen dia No se si esta bien el titulo pero quisiera hacer una simple programita que lea un block de nota y que ejecute unos comandos en el terminal y cada línea separa por un punto y coma represente un comando diferente mi explico,

shockwave flash has crashed

2014-09-29 Thread javier frf
hola, uso debian 7 y google chrome stable, el flash player dejo de funcionar, y purge las configuraciones de chrome y lo desinstalé, lo volví a instalar y sigue con el mismo error. intente instalando chrome beta, y es lo mismo alguien sabe como se puede solucionar? saludos

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 29/09/14 a las 16:14, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:07:11 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: Gracias. Pues ya se me pasa la paranoia ;) :) Pues ya puedes volver al modo paranoico que esto no ha acabado: Further flaws render Shellshock patch ineffective

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Emmanuel Brenes
El 29/09/2014 12:48, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 29/09/14 a las 16:14, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:07:11 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: Gracias. Pues ya se me pasa la paranoia ;) :) Pues ya puedes volver al modo paranoico que esto no ha acabado: Further flaws render Shellshock

OT: Instalación de Debian en ThinkPad W540,(20BGA004LM)

2014-09-29 Thread Anamhoo
Saludos lista, quería preguntar si alguien ha instalado Debian estable en una ThinkPad W540,(20BGA004LM) y en todo caso si tuvieron algún problema con los controladores, o cualquier otra cosa. Procesador Cuarta generación del procesador Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ (6M Cache, 2.4 GHz) Pantalla 15,6

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Eduardo Rios
El 29/09/14 a las 20:56, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: Según entiendo el alcance es remoto, o sea, desde otros computadores se puede ver vulnerado el sistema, el detalle es en circunstancias muy particulares, como han dicho varios ya, a través de páginas que utilicen CGI -scripts que se ejecutan

Re: Configurar Dovecot

2014-09-29 Thread Josu Lazkano
El día 29 de septiembre de 2014, 15:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:19:10 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió: Gracias a los dos, He activado el MD5-DIGEST: # doveconf -n | grep auth_mechanisms auth_mechanisms = digest-md5 No es conveniente que dejes únicamente

Re: OT: Instalación de Debian en ThinkPad W540,(20BGA004LM)

2014-09-29 Thread Rivera Valdez
Aquí aparentemente hay alguna info al respecto, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:W540 Saludos, ! 2014-09-29 16:17 GMT-03:00 Anamhoo anam...@riseup.net: Saludos lista, quería preguntar si alguien ha instalado Debian estable en una ThinkPad W540,(20BGA004LM) y en todo caso si tuvieron

Re: OT: Instalación de Debian en ThinkPad W540,(20BGA004LM)

2014-09-29 Thread Rivera Valdez
Y por si acaso, http://linux-thinkpad.10952.n7.nabble.com/Debian-on-Thinkpad-W540-td21243.html 2014-09-29 18:00 GMT-03:00 Rivera Valdez riveraval...@ysinembargo.com: Aquí aparentemente hay alguna info al respecto, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:W540 Saludos, ! 2014-09-29 16:17

Linux-RT-Kernel en Debian Testing

2014-09-29 Thread Rivera Valdez
Hola, el kernel-rt solía estar junto a los otros, como linux-image-[ARCH]-rt o algo similar (si no estoy recordando mal), pero ahora no lo encuentro por ningún lado, ¿alguien podría decirme cómo instalar el kernel-rt en Debian Testing?, ¿cambió de lugar/nombre/paquete acaso?, ¿tiene algo que ver

Re: shockwave flash has crashed

2014-09-29 Thread Jhosue rui
El día 29 de septiembre de 2014, 13:56, javier frf francisco...@gmail.com escribió: hola, uso debian 7 y google chrome stable, el flash player dejo de funcionar, y purge las configuraciones de chrome y lo desinstalé, lo volví a instalar y sigue con el mismo error. intente instalando chrome

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 20:48:37 +0200 Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es escribió: El 29/09/14 a las 16:14, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:07:11 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: Gracias. Pues ya se me pasa la paranoia ;) :) Pues ya puedes volver al modo paranoico que esto no ha

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:29:04 +0200 Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es escribió: El 29/09/14 a las 20:56, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: Según entiendo el alcance es remoto, o sea, desde otros computadores se puede ver vulnerado el sistema, el detalle es en circunstancias muy particulares, como

Re: Configurar Dovecot

2014-09-29 Thread jors
El 28 de septiembre de 2014 17:57:36 CEST, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:19:07 +0200, Josu Lazkano escribió: Gracias por la ayuda, Ya he activado el POP3. Me alegro :-) Tengo otra duda sobre la seguridad, la recepcion de correo Será el envío. lo hago

Re: RV: mi primer bash

2014-09-29 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:07:10 -0430 Daxko dax...@gmail.com escribió: Buen dia No se si esta bien el titulo pero quisiera hacer una simple programita que lea un block de nota y que ejecute unos comandos en el terminal y cada línea separa por un punto y coma represente un comando

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Emmanuel Brenes
El 29/09/2014 13:29, Eduardo Rios escribió: El 29/09/14 a las 20:56, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: Según entiendo el alcance es remoto, o sea, desde otros computadores se puede ver vulnerado el sistema, el detalle es en circunstancias muy particulares, como han dicho varios ya, a través de

Re: Apagón repentino (Era: Bash vulnerable)

2014-09-29 Thread Germán Avendaño Ramírez
On 29 de septiembre de 2014 8:32:12 AM GMT-05:00, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:34:00 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió: buenas noches comunidad recientemente hace 20min me encontraba navegando por la web cuando la maquina se apago pero se apago como

Re: [OT] Recupercion de archivos grandes

2014-09-29 Thread estebanmonge
El 2014-09-29 07:29, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 28 Sep 2014 19:28:28 -0400, Fredy Guio escribió: Hola lista. Tengo una duda. Alguien a intentado recuperar archivos borrados, con la aplicacion nftsundelete ? Será ntfsundelete. No, no lo he probado. Una única vez tuve que recuperar datos de

Re: Bash vulnerable

2014-09-29 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
en realidad nadie tiene idea de q tan malo es el daño todos andan revisando sus app para ver si alguien de ellos cae en la vulnerabilidad hasta donde tengo entendido cualquier aplicacion q use una variable de entorno y de alguna forma salga a internet esa variable ya esta metido en lios Edward

Re: Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS Göteborg, Sweden 31 oct - 2 nov

2014-09-29 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hej Per (och alla andra). Tänkte passa på att tacka för ett bra intitativ! Har nu själv precis bokat min biljett. Kommer förmodligen frenetiskt jobba på bug squashing under dessa dagar som ligger precis innan frys av Jessie. Om andra är intresserade av detta (nya som erfarna) så säg till så

Re: Gnome 3.14 eller Xfce 4.12

2014-09-29 Thread Joakim Roubert
On 2014-09-24 16:17, Rolf Edlund wrote: Idag är det ju meningen att Gnome 3.14 ska släppas. Hoppas det inte blir samma typ av testversion, som jag tycker Gnome har varit efter 3.4. Jag känner igen den känslan! Men det jag hört om 3.14, så låter det iaf väldigt lovande Vad bra! On

Re: Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS Göteborg, Sweden 31 oct - 2 nov

2014-09-29 Thread Per Andersson
2014-09-29 19:02 GMT+02:00 Andreas Henriksson andr...@fatal.se: Hej Per (och alla andra). Tänkte passa på att tacka för ett bra intitativ! Har nu själv precis bokat min biljett. Kommer förmodligen frenetiskt jobba på bug squashing under dessa dagar som ligger precis innan frys av Jessie. Om

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Dica de 2 teclados como entrada para programas diferentes.

2014-09-29 Thread hamacker
Isso que você quer é o ambiente multiterminal, voce tem 2 monitores, 2 mouse, 2 teclados e o comportamento é uma cpu usado por dois. A diferença é que o shell de login no GDM de um será o programa desejado enquanto no outro será o kde/gnome. Em 21 de setembro de 2014 22:59, William Pereira de

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Dica de 2 teclados como entrada para programas diferentes.

2014-09-29 Thread hamacker
Apenas para você ter uma idéia do ambiente multitermial: http://eduardobecker.blogspot.com.br/2010/05/instalacao-e-configuracao-do.html Em 29 de setembro de 2014 13:42, hamacker sirhamac...@gmail.com escreveu: Isso que você quer é o ambiente multiterminal, voce tem 2 monitores, 2 mouse, 2

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Hörmetjan Yiltiz
It is boiling hot here for days, and if you consider other similar topics, well then, for decades! I like that. It this going to bring some change to status que? ​Best​ , He who is worthy to receive his days and nights is worthy to receive* all else* from you (and me).

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
lee l...@yagibdah.de writes: As I already said: try to get squid 2.7 started and stopped by systemd on a current Fedora installation. This is not the Fedora users list. Sure is, yet why tell me to make software nobody cares about. That won't get systemd out of Debian. Given you don't use

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, September 29, 2014 2:40:02 AM UTC+5:30, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:57:12 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: Change is life. There is nothing static in life. How Eastern Philosophical. I may have to climb a mountain and fast for a month to reach your level of

Re: excessive CPU usage

2014-09-29 Thread Julien boooo
Hello Gary What does top returns ? - high load average ? / high %sys ? ... 2014-09-29 4:32 GMT+02:00 Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net: On 09/21/2014 11:54 AM, Gary Roach wrote: Hi all For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from my system. As an example, it

Bluetooth mouse?

2014-09-29 Thread Johann Spies
I have used a bluetooth mouse for the past 4 years without problems. Since tha advent of systemd I cannot. When I run blueman-manager, it detects the device, but the setup wants to pair the mouse which of cause I cannot do (typing in a code on the mouse). If I proceed without paring and and mark

Re: Reboot After Systemd 215-5 Upgrade

2014-09-29 Thread David Baron
On Sunday 28 September 2014 15:59:33 PaulNM wrote: On 09/28/2014 03:26 PM, Carlo wrote: 2014-09-28 20:31 GMT+02:00 David Baron d_ba...@012.net.il: Here 'tis: ~$ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a

Re: excessive CPU usage

2014-09-29 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote: 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 198 189 000 Old_age Offline -232 0 Get a new drive. -- Håkon Alstadheim / N-7510 Skatval / email: ha...@alstadheim.priv.no tlf: 74 82 60 27 mob: 47

Re: excessive CPU usage

2014-09-29 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 29. sep. 2014 09:55, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote: 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 198 189 000 Old_ageOffline - 232 0 Get a new drive. Sorry to follow up on myself, but, in the mean-time you

Re: Bluetooth mouse? (Solved)

2014-09-29 Thread Johann Spies
Apologies for the noise. Playing again with blueman-manager I found an option 'create paring' and after that I could connect to the mouse and it is working now. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)

Re: excessive CPU usage

2014-09-29 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote: SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Extended offlineCompleted: read failure 90% 35888 307316 # 2 Short offline

Re: excessive CPU usage

2014-09-29 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
This is getting embarassing, hdparm does obvously also need to know which drive to read from, something like hdparm --read-sector 307316 /dev/sda. I'll not bother the entire list with that :) On 29. sep. 2014 10:48, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote: SMART

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 03:21:13PM +0200, Slavko wrote: Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:56:08 +0200 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de napísal: But my challenge to all of you who don´t want systemd as default in Debian still is this: *Stop* complaining and *start* acting.

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up with their brokenarch and left users stranded with no possible fix for the things they broke. The only reason I'm here is because I have it running on my server, and the

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, September 29, 2014 3:40:01 PM UTC+5:30, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up with their brokenarch and left users stranded with no possible fix for the things they broke. The only

Gnome 3.14 keyboard shortcut question

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Ashley
Greetings, System: up to date Debian Testing, 64 bit, Gnome 3.14 I'm trying Gnome again after several years of using Fluxbox and need some help with creating a custom keyboard shortcut. I'm using 8 workspaces and successfully created keyboard shortcuts for workspaces 1-4 using Settings-

Gnome 3.14 keyboard shortcut question (Clarification)

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Ashley
Greetings, This is to clarify my original request for help. The shortcuts I'm trying to make are to switch to workspaces 5-8. Sorry for the confusion. System: up to date Debian Testing, 64 bit, Gnome 3.14 I'm trying Gnome again after several years of using Fluxbox and need some help with

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 02:43 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: lee l...@yagibdah.de writes: As I already said: try to get squid 2.7 started and stopped by systemd on a current Fedora installation. This is not the Fedora users list. Sure is, yet

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up with their brokenarch and left users stranded with no possible fix for the

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 03:21:47AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: On Monday, September 29, 2014 3:40:01 PM UTC+5:30, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up with their brokenarch and left users

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
This came across another list, in relation to Apple's latest iOS update. It just seems so appropriate to the systemd discussion: However, for iOS major releases, almost immediately you start to see app updates that require the new iOS release. So at least for iOS, you're almost forced into

Re: Gnome 3.14 keyboard shortcut question

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Ott
Hi Tom! System: up to date Debian Testing, 64 bit, Gnome 3.14 I'm trying Gnome again after several years of using Fluxbox and need some help with creating a custom keyboard shortcut. I'm using 8 workspaces and successfully created keyboard shortcuts for workspaces 1-4 using Settings-

installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debian folks, I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie on an AMD 64 box). I found a web site https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra where there appeared to be some packages that may may not

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Mart van de Wege
lee l...@yagibdah.de writes: Karl E. Jorgensen k...@jorgensen.org.uk writes: * not doing crazy things, like running backports or testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. Debian isn't as stable as you like to think. I am required to run the latest kernel from

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Fabrice Vaillant
On 29/09/2014 09:14, Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debian folks, I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie on an AMD 64 box). I found a web site https://launchpad.net/~rebuntu16/+archive/ubuntu/other-stuff/+sourcepub/4038858/+listing-archive-extra

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-29 Thread green
Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-28 22:04 -0500: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 18:10:52 -0500 green greenfreedo...@gmail.com wrote: Microkernels, as I understand, aim to support a highly modular system *design* but are themselves minimal (Minix 3 has about 4000 lines of executable kernel code). This core

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
Hi I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried following the instruction described here https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce? Thank you for your reply I already have xfce installed. But I assumed (maybe I am wrong) that xfce-theme-manager - 0.3.5-1 is not automatically

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Fabrice Vaillant
Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood. I would sugest building it from source as indicated here http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647. On 29/09/2014 10:24, Michael Fothergill wrote: Hi I believe XFCE is already included in debian repository. Have you tried following the

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:14:42PM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote: Dear Debian folks, I have been trying to install xfce theme manager (I am running Debian Jessie on an AMD 64 box). I found a web site

Re: Bluetooth mouse? (Solved)

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:08:02 +0200 Johann Spies johann.sp...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies for the noise. Playing again with blueman-manager I found an option 'create paring' and after that I could connect to the mouse and it is working now. Regards Johann Johann, Great to hear you got it

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 07:50:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Michael Fothergill
Oh, then I am afraid you misunderstood. I would sugest building it from source as indicated here http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=149647. I will go ahead and do that. Thank you very much for the advice. It's not always obvious which packages you can use apt with and which you have

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 08:22:23AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: lee l...@yagibdah.de writes: Karl E. Jorgensen k...@jorgensen.org.uk writes: * not doing crazy things, like running backports or testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. Debian isn't as stable

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 10:49 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 07:50:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: What's wrong with the current multiarch implementation in your option? I'm really curious as

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:50:45 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 Yes. I'm a huge believer in wiping and

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 07:50:21AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 05:49 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 04:31:01PM +0200, lee wrote: Debian already lost me (after over 15 years) when they came up

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28:55AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: Header files are arch-agnostic, it's the .la files that case all the trouble. I'm afraid that's not always the case. I've encountered specific cases where the headers are different between architectures. Hmm. Kernel

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 29 September 2014 16:29:48 Michael Fothergill wrote: It's not always obvious which packages you can use apt with and which you have to compile. You can use apt with packages which are in the repositories. You can find this out with aptitude search or equivalent or by looking on

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:45:13 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:50:45 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware)  time is always UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. Erm What do you think we who live near Greenwich do??? Lisi

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:42:36AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: About the only thing that I'm missing here is why would anyone should compile anything on a production server, Xen's dom0 specifically (as it seems to be the main lee's concern). I do it all the time. Packaging of some of

Business suggestion

2014-09-29 Thread Jim Lawrence
Hey, I had visited your site http://www.debian.org and I was very impressed. I think it would fit my clients' demands perfectly. Let me clarify, my name is Jim and I'm an advertising representative. My job is to find sites like yours, which are willing to sell advertising space to my clients.

Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Sorry, sent to steve instead of list by mistake Original Message Subject: Re: cron in UTC? Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 16:18:35 +0100 From: Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org To: Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:57 +0100 Tony van der Hoff

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Joe Loiacono
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote on 09/29/2014 12:13:48 PM: On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware) time is always UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread John Hasler
Tony van der Hoff writes: My problem is that cron works to localtime. I want my cron tasks to be triggered at the same time (UTC) each day, regardless of the current localtime, wherever I may be. man 5 crontab -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

2014-09-29 Thread Philippe Clérié
On 09/27/2014 01:27 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 September 2014 17:57:06 Philippe Clérié wrote: Thanks for the tips. Bug filed as #763072. -- Philippe -- The trouble with common sense it that it is so uncommon. Anonymous I have looked at the bug report, and I would suggest that

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:57 +0100 On 24/09/14 16:01, Don Armstrong wrote: My #1 suggestion is to have system time be GMT, and every shell/user set TZ appropriately. That's basically the only sane setting, as many time zones do DST (and change

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-29 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/29/2014 at 12:03 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28:55AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: Header files are arch-agnostic, it's the .la files that case all the trouble. I'm afraid that's not always the case. I've encountered

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/14 17:13, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 29 September 2014 17:01:31 Tony van der Hoff wrote: well, it's my understanding that the system (hardware) time is always UTC, but there is no way to set localtime to GMT (or UTC). Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you. Erm What do you think

Re: Gnome 3.14 keyboard shortcut question--Solved

2014-09-29 Thread Tom Ashley
Thanks much. Tom On Sep 29, 2014 8:46 AM, Michael Ott mich...@king-coder.de wrote: Hi Tom! System: up to date Debian Testing, 64 bit, Gnome 3.14 I'm trying Gnome again after several years of using Fluxbox and need some help with creating a custom keyboard shortcut. I'm using 8

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Stephen Allen wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 08:22:23AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: lee l...@yagibdah.de writes: Karl E. Jorgensen k...@jorgensen.org.uk writes: * not doing crazy things, like running backports or testing/unstable [2], and no grabbing *.debs from weird places. Debian

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/14 17:48, John Hasler wrote: Tony van der Hoff writes: My problem is that cron works to localtime. I want my cron tasks to be triggered at the same time (UTC) each day, regardless of the current localtime, wherever I may be. man 5 crontab Believe me; I've beaten that man to

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:45:13 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:29:22AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:50:45 +1300 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400,

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