Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/20/2017 02:46 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: You don't have to use the auto-generated grub.cfg. You can write and maintain your own one manually. You can! Good for you! Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - Intel G3220 - EXT4 at sda1 Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 05:55:15 + (UTC) david...@freevolt.org wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install > > apps, etc., but get no security or stretch-update "fixes," etc. I > > find this unusual. > > And so,

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 07/19/2017 11:33 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Jimmy Johnson composed on 2017-07-19 02:30 (UTC-0700): Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, I've been thinking about this for awhile now and how to solve this problem that Ubuntu does not have. So I

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 08:48:17 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: > On 19-07-17, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > wrote: > > > > > On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:14:28

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Felix Miata
Joe Pfeiffer composed on 2017-07-20 15:38 (UTC-0600): > David Wright wrote: >> On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >>> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? >> I did. Where does it say that? > The closest thing to that statement I've encountered is

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 20:41:33 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/19/2017 07:05 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 13:47:27 -0700 Jimmy Johnson > > wrote: > > > >> On 07/19/2017 01:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >>> On Wed, 19

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Felix Miata
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 23:40 (UTC+0200): > Felix Miata composed: >> Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to >> setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to >> manually >> maintain. > This is your opinion. Grub2 setup can be run

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 07/20/2017 03:16 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: Similarly, it is currently Thu Sep 8724 1993 (Eternal September calendar, available as sdate). Way back on September 4180, 1993, AOL ended Usenet access, the cause of the Eternal September. I'm not sure if it's best to call the next day October 1,

Re: cups

2017-07-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 July 2017 13:51:19 Pol Hallen wrote: > Hi all :-) > > can someone tell me how cups handles pdf files? > > I've cups on server and some clients connected to it > (ipp://ip/printer) > > From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see > that file size about 4/5Mb

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 19:57:57 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 0:40 (UTC+0200): > > > Felix Miata composed: > > >> ...is not > >> always adequate. 240/63, another very common configuration... > > > IME, 31 KiB is still enough to contain a core image when not

Re: Free software

2017-07-20 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 3:46 AM, Doug wrote: > > On 07/20/2017 06:32 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >>> Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward the >>> end as many as 9 or 10,

Re: False dichotomy [was: Apt vs apt-get]

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> From: recovery...@gmail.com > Hi. > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:18:04 +0200 > Frank wrote: >> Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All: >> > Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what >> > the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual >>

Re: cups

2017-07-20 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: > Hi all :-) > > can someone tell me how cups handles pdf files? > > I've cups on server and some clients connected to it (ipp://ip/printer) > > From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see that file > size about

debian 9 no abre writer

2017-07-20 Thread Ricardo Delgado
hola buenas tardes hice una instalacion limpia de debian 9 y tengo el problema que no abre writer, intente desde consola "libreoffice --writer" o "soffice --writer" aparece el logo y luego no hace nada mas. veo que en el link pasa lo mismo, alguien tuvo el mismo problema? pudo encontrar solucion?

Re: Gateway disappears on IPv6

2017-07-20 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Thanks, Guus, for your reply. I just wanted to confirm that the workaround up ip -6 route add default via fe80::1 dev $IFACE onlink works flawless for me. I will upgrade to Stretch with one of the next point releases. Thanks again, Rainer Am Samstag, 15. Juli 2017, 21:30:27 CEST schrieb

Re: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?

2017-07-20 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
David Wright writes: > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> Patrick Bartek composed on 2017-07-19 10:29 (UTC-0700): >> >> > Getting no results from apt-get upgrade after a week. Can install apps, >> > etc., but get no security or

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 22:20, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : On 07/19/2017 11:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ? What would impose it ? Debian grub-legacy setup is

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/07/2017 à 20:33, Felix Miata a écrit : Grub Legacy requires no scripts or filesystem mounting to setup, and its menu.lst is magnitudes easier than Grub2's grub.cfg to manually maintain. This is your opinion. I beg to differ. Once you are used to it, manually maintaining grub.cfg is

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Weaver
On 2017-07-21 07:29, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit : >> On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: >>> On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : > Some of you may already know that setting

Re: Setup Grub-Legacy on Jessie

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 20/07/2017 à 08:51, Curt a écrit : On 2017-07-19, Curt wrote: On 2017-07-19, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/07/2017 à 11:30, Jimmy Johnson a écrit : Some of you may already know that setting up grub-legacy on Debian can be imposable, Imposable ?

Re: Installation of debian/stretch 32-bit error

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 20/07/2017 à 01:57, Felix Miata a écrit : Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-20 0:40 (UTC+0200): Felix Miata composed: ...is not always adequate. 240/63, another very common configuration... IME, 31 KiB is still enough to contain a core image when not needing costly features such as

Re: False dichotomy [was: Apt vs apt-get]

2017-07-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:18:04 +0200 Frank wrote: > Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All: > > Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what > > the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual > > I found, it says apt all

Re: Free software

2017-07-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jul 2017 at 08:59:08 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 20 July 2017 07:32:04 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward > > > the end as many as 9 or 10,

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
That's the revolutionary calendar. On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Doug wrote: Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 14:53:38 From: Doug To: Stephen P. Molnar , debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply) Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017

Re: funding & viability questions of GPL enforcement.

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> On Wed 19/Jul/2017 23:14:35 +0200 Martin Read wrote: >> On 19/07/17 12:17, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >>> One my wonder why GRSecurity is not (optionally) included in Linux. >> >> For a variety of reasons relating to the personalities and opinions of the >> people who would be involved - on both

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Thiago C. F.
Ta certo Ricardo! Abraços! Em 20 de julho de 2017 12:14, Ricardo Ramos escreveu: > Boa Thiago, > > Valeu pela resposta, e bom ouvir outras experiências pra saber como outros > enfrentaram o mesmo problema. > > Tendo em conta que estamos a fugir um pouco do assunto

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All: >> Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what >> the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual >> I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhile there is apt-get >> package to install.

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 07/20/2017 02:53 PM, Doug wrote: On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : /snip/ Is this French? I can understand July being called something that must mean HOT, but is this

Re: French revolution (OT reply) (was intelijammer)

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> Hello Doug, >>Is this French? > Quite likely. >>but is this year 225? Dated from when? > Given the above, I"d say it"s the French Republican (aka Revolutionary) > Calendar. Revolution was 1789 (13 years after americans revolted for the same reasons). 2017-1789=228 The revolution was under the

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Doug
On 07/20/2017 02:03 PM, Frank wrote: Op 20-07-17 om 20:53 schreef Doug: On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : /snip/ Is this French? I can understand July being called

Android Studio and AVDs

2017-07-20 Thread solitone
Is anyone using Android Studio on stretch? Have you managed to run apps on an Android Virtual Device (AVD)? I've tried everything. The emulator seems to start, I get no errors, and the emulated device appears on my screen (at least when using software accelaration, otherwise it doesn't start

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:07:54PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Frank a écrit : > > French revolution, most likely. > > Technically, "republican calandar", not "revolutionary calendar", but > you got the right reference. > > Just a whim I had and implemented

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 13:53:38 -0500 Doug wrote: Hello Doug, >Is this French? Quite likely. >but is this year 225? Dated from when? Given the above, I'd say it's the French Republican (aka Revolutionary) Calendar. -- Regards _ / ) "The

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Frank a écrit : > French revolution, most likely. Technically, "republican calandar", not "revolutionary calendar", but you got the right reference. Just a whim I had and implemented when I was barely more than teenage and never bothered to replace. Regards, --

Re: [resolved] multiple windows, not multiple tabs

2017-07-20 Thread FHDATA
issue was unintended consequence of my customization. i had: System Settings->Windows Behavior->Windows Behavior->Advanced tab checked the Windows Tabbing's Automatically group similar windows. i have un-checked that box now. Thank you, F- On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, FHDATA wrote:

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Frank
Op 20-07-17 om 20:53 schreef Doug: On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : /snip/ Is this French? I can understand July being called something that must mean HOT, but is this

Re: What is Installjammer? (OT reply)

2017-07-20 Thread Doug
On 07/20/2017 08:54 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : /snip/ Is this French? I can understand July being called something that must mean HOT, but is this year 225? Dated from when? --doug

Re: Free software

2017-07-20 Thread Doug
On 07/20/2017 06:32 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote: Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward the end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabinets to keep the stuff in if the subscription was for all of

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Frank
Op 20-07-17 om 18:58 schreef Fungi4All: Does it matter what we all think, even if agree or it matters what the manual of the package says. In my installation this is manual I found, it says apt all over the place, meanwhile there is apt-get package to install. /usr/share/man/man8/apt-get.8.gz

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread andre_debian
On Thursday 20 July 2017 13:18:51 maderios wrote: > On 07/20/2017 12:12 PM, steve wrote: > Si une interface est déclarée dans ce fichier, elle n'est pas prise en > compte par network-manager La situation n'est pas très brillante. En tapant la commande "apt-get dist-upgrade", je me retouve sous

cups

2017-07-20 Thread Pol Hallen
Hi all :-) can someone tell me how cups handles pdf files? I've cups on server and some clients connected to it (ipp://ip/printer) From client I print (ie: a 300Kb of pdf), in log cups server I see that file size about 4/5Mb (why?), so the printer before print it I've to wait also 15 minutes

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> From: deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Agreed. I was beginning to despair of this list while reading through > this thread. But we seem to live in times when evidence matters less > and less, and assertion more and more. > Sorry about the politics. Anyway, AFAICT

Re: What is Installjammer?

2017-07-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 07/20/2017 11:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:54:33AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
> From: solit...@mail.com > The thing is that it"s not obvious to me that you can set any of the values: > "true", "on", "yes" vs. "false", "off", "no". A bit off topic, but in some places the ^ means high in others it means low on top. As in file managers and taks managers. Whatsupwitdat? But

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Ricardo Ramos
Boa Thiago, Valeu pela resposta, e bom ouvir outras experiências pra saber como outros enfrentaram o mesmo problema. Tendo em conta que estamos a fugir um pouco do assunto original, eu fico por aqui. A minha recomendação está feita e qualquer coisa a comunidade está aqui pra tentar ajudar no

Re: [HS] Re: MariaDB / Mysql (Debian vs GPL en général)

2017-07-20 Thread maderios
On 07/20/2017 05:46 PM, Olivier wrote: Bonjour, J'ai noté la suppression dans Stretch du paquet libmyodbc pour cause d'obsolesence de ce paquet. Cette suppression est bloquante pour des projets comme Asterisk qui marginalement, il est vrai, s'intègre à MySQL via ODBC. Je n'ai pas l'impression

Re: Tableta para dibujo

2017-07-20 Thread rv riveravaldez
2017-05-26 14:20 GMT-03:00 Raúl Armenta : > Maldito gmail > > El compañero Jesusda que se pasa por aquí de vez en cuando conoce mucho este > tema a mi me ayudó hace unos años. > Te recomiendo este link > http://www.jesusda.com/blog/ > > Saludos, > > Noseasasi. > > > > >

Re: What is Installjammer?

2017-07-20 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 09:54:33AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just what it is and from whence it came! I

Re: [HS] Re: MariaDB / Mysql (Debian vs GPL en général)

2017-07-20 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, J'ai noté la suppression dans Stretch du paquet libmyodbc pour cause d'obsolesence de ce paquet. Cette suppression est bloquante pour des projets comme Asterisk qui marginalement, il est vrai, s'intègre à MySQL via ODBC. Je n'ai pas l'impression que la Galaxie MariaDB a un équivalent

Re: Quelle application pour piloter une chaine HiFi avec un smartphone Android ? [RESOLU]

2017-07-20 Thread Olivier
Merci à Pascal et Samuel pour vos réponses: elles semblent parfaitement coller à mon besoin ! [1] https://wiki.debian.org/fr/Mpd [2] http://elinux.org/DLNA_Open_Source_Projects Le 20 juillet 2017 à 10:27, Pascal Obry a écrit : > Olivier, > > >> Quelle appli, respectant

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Thiago C. F.
Olá César. Depende do ponto de vista. Como eu sou de vestir a camisa da distro que uso (o Debian, claro) eu indico e se possível instá-lo sem visar o que é complicado ou não, pois a pessoas as vezes não sabe disso e poderá achar dificuldade em qualquer distro "Linux", até no Ubuntu ou Linux Mint,

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-20 Thread solitone
On Thursday, 20 July 2017 08:25:41 CEST David Wright wrote: > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:21:57 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 03:48:03PM +0200, solitone wrote: > > > On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > echo "APT::Clean-Installed

Re: Problems with apt in a clean stretch install.

2017-07-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Jul 2017 at 11:10:44 (+0200), Michael Lange wrote: > Hi, > > I'm glad you could finally fix the issue. > > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:15:33 +0930 > "Wayne Hartell" wrote: > > > I know I just wrote a long e-mail on this, but I think I just figured > > out in my

Re: Recuperar archivos de disco con formato ntfs

2017-07-20 Thread rv riveravaldez
2017-06-09 17:15 GMT-03:00 Angel Vicente : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > El Fri, 9 Jun 2017 15:59:01 -0300 > Cristian Mitchell escribió: >> El 9 jun. 2017 3:26 PM, "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" >> escribió: >>

Re: Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread David Wright
On Thu 20 Jul 2017 at 21:21:08 (+1000), Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote: > > David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500): > > > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > > > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Ricardo Ramos
No meu caso as recomendações foram a pessoas que usam no dia a dia, então nem sempre eu estava ao lado pra acompanhar e resolver os problemas. Resumindo, usuário novato sem administrador permanente e com pouca paciência. Depois dessas experiências e que aprendi que primeiro a transição tem que

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Fred Maranhão
2017-07-20 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ricardo Ramos : > Olá Antônio Terceiro, > > Eu entendo os seus pontos e concordo, no entanto após ter instalado Debian > pra algumas pessoas usarem e ter recebido algumas reclamações de programas > que não encontravam e coisas que não

RE : N’hésites pas de commencer une conversation avec moi Coline

2017-07-20 Thread Michel Poulot-cadet
Bonjour  coline  Envoyé depuis mon appareil mobile Samsung. Message d'origine De : Coline Boemler Date : 2017/07/04 16:07 (GMT+00:00) À : debian-user@lists.debian.org Objet : N’hésites pas de commencer une conversation avec moi Coline Je

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

2017-07-20 Thread Nick Boyce
On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 13:45:13 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > Who can compete when Intel refuses to pay > the price of making CPUs that are unsafe at > progressively higher speeds? Er .. s/unsafe/safe/ ??? But basically +1 to everything (else) you wrote. Nick -- Never FDISK

Re: What is Installjammer?

2017-07-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 07/20/2017 09:14 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just what it is and from whence it came! I suggest you start by looking at its timestamp. If it is a directory, look

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-20 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 16:21:57 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 03:48:03PM +0200, solitone wrote: > > On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 15:22:33 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > echo "APT::Clean-Installed no;" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/no-autoclean > > > > I've set it to

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Ricardo Ramos
Olá Antônio Terceiro, Eu entendo os seus pontos e concordo, no entanto após ter instalado Debian pra algumas pessoas usarem e ter recebido algumas reclamações de programas que não encontravam e coisas que não funcionavam (e não deixavam tempo suficiente com a máquina pra fazer troubleshoot), pra

Re: What is Installjammer?

2017-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : > I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just > what it is and from whence it came! I suggest you start by looking at its timestamp. If it is a directory, look at its contents, including the timestamps.

What is Installjammer?

2017-07-20 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have just installed Debian 9.0.0 on my 64bit Linux platform (upgraded from 8.8.0 as a fresh install). I have just noticed an entry , ~/.instlljammer, and would like to know just what it is and from whence it came!Google tells me that it is a cross platform utility that is no longer be

Re: Free software

2017-07-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 20 July 2017 07:32:04 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward > > the end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabinets to keep > > the stuff in if the

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Ramon Chaves
Olá Antônio Terceiro, legal suas considerações. a lista de firmwares free que suportadas desde já no Debian (sem pacotes non-free, obviamente) é literalmente esta deste link? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/firmware-linux-free Ou além disso tem mais coisa? Abraços,Ramon Em

Re: Indicação

2017-07-20 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 05:55:56AM +, Ricardo Ramos wrote: > E aí pessoal, > > Eu rodo o Debian num Lenovo s400 sem problemas, só foi necessário baixar o > firmware pro wifi no repositório nonfree, tirando isso ele roda liso. > > Também rodo o Ubuntu num vaio antigo PCG-6Q2M, e nas versões

Re: funding & viability questions of GPL enforcement.

2017-07-20 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 19/Jul/2017 23:14:35 +0200 Martin Read wrote: > On 19/07/17 12:17, Alessandro Vesely wrote: >> One my wonder why GRSecurity is not (optionally) included in Linux. > > For a variety of reasons relating to the personalities and opinions of the > people who would be involved - on both sides -

suspension en debian 8

2017-07-20 Thread marcelo
Hola amigos. Estoy teniendo problemas con la suspensión. Cuando quiero volver a conectar la computadora la pantalla se queda negra y no responde. Me fuí a revisar el archivo pm-suspend y me llamó la atención que en vez de tener fecha de ayer (día que la suspendí) tiene fecha de antes de ayer.

Re: Q: systemd is restarting demons?

2017-07-20 Thread Lck Ras
On 07/20/2017 07:23 PM, Hans wrote: > Hello, > > I am wondering, if it is normal, that systemd is restarting a service, which > I as root did > stop. In may case it is laptools-mode. > > See the output of syslog: > Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active

[RESOLU] Choisir un outil de sauvegarde, et utilité du compte système "backup"

2017-07-20 Thread Thierry Bugier Pineau
Le samedi 15 juillet 2017 à 23:35 +0200, G2PC a écrit : > Le 15/07/2017 à 22:31, Thierry Bugier Pineau a écrit : > > Bonjour > > > > Je veux mettre en place un système de sauvegarde adapté à mon > > infrastructure personnelle, et préparer la création de mon système > > de > > messagerie (avoir

Re: Free software

2017-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 1er thermidor, an CCXXV, Ben Finney a écrit : > By analogy: I am not capable of maintaining the house I live in, let > alone of making significant improvements. > > Yet I benefit from the fact that anyone sufficiently motivated can learn > to do so and they don't need permission from

Re: Q: systemd is restarting demons?

2017-07-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le duodi 2 thermidor, an CCXXV, Hans a écrit : > Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active Unless I am mistaken, that means the service is not currently running, but set up to start automatically at boot (or more specifically for the target blah blah). It is exactly the same as

Re: Free software

2017-07-20 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 09:27:16 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > Doug is correct. Every shop had a subscription to SAM's and toward the > end as many as 9 or 10, tall 4 drawer fileing cabinets to keep the stuff > in if the subscription was for all of the stuff. Ahh, Sam's was a good clue (for me)--I

Re: Q: systemd is restarting demons?

2017-07-20 Thread Dominik George
Hi, >I am wondering, if it is normal, that systemd is restarting a service, >which I as root did >stop. In may case it is laptools-mode. > >See the output of syslog: >Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active > > >I know, I can force systemd, not to start demons at boot, but

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread steve
Le 20-07-2017, à 13:18:51 +0200, maderios a écrit : Plus exactement, le contenu d'un /etc/network/interfaces par défaut pour utiliser network-manager ## source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback ## Si une interface est déclarée dans

Apt vs apt-get [Was: Apt-get Upgrade Problem in Stretch?]

2017-07-20 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 20.07.17 03:27, Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2017-07-19 23:33 (UTC-0500): > > > On Wed 19 Jul 2017 at 14:57:50 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> Did you miss that in Stretch apt is preferred to apt-get? > > > I did. Where does it say that? > > It was a long time ago that I

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread maderios
On 07/20/2017 12:12 PM, steve wrote: Le 20-07-2017, à 12:00:55 +0200, André Debian a écrit : J'ai relancé la commande "apt-get upgrade" aujourd'hui, et je suis passé de 604 paquets non mis à jour à 299. Je vais tenter alors un "apt-get dist-upgrade", on verra... Parfois, il faut un peu

Re: WLAN connection: 5 GHz priority

2017-07-20 Thread Dan Purgert
solitone wrote: > On Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:05:56 CEST Dan Purgert wrote: >> That being said, most network admins worth anything will be approaching >> the problem from their side too (e.g. with band steering), in order to >> "encourage" client devices to connect to the 5 GHz signal. > > I've

Q: systemd is restarting demons?

2017-07-20 Thread Hans
Hello, I am wondering, if it is normal, that systemd is restarting a service, which I as root did stop. In may case it is laptools-mode. See the output of syslog: Jul 20 12:16:47 localhost laptop-mode: enabled, not active I know, I can force systemd, not to start demons at boot, but this

Re: WLAN connection: 5 GHz priority

2017-07-20 Thread solitone
On Thursday, 20 July 2017 10:05:56 CEST Dan Purgert wrote: > That being said, most network admins worth anything will be approaching > the problem from their side too (e.g. with band steering), in order to > "encourage" client devices to connect to the 5 GHz signal. I've tried the band steering

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread steve
Le 20-07-2017, à 12:00:55 +0200, André Debian a écrit : J'ai relancé la commande "apt-get upgrade" aujourd'hui, et je suis passé de 604 paquets non mis à jour à 299. Je vais tenter alors un "apt-get dist-upgrade", on verra... Parfois, il faut un peu forcer, et à la longue ça passe. Enfin,

Re: WLAN connection: 5 GHz priority

2017-07-20 Thread Dan Purgert
solitone wrote: > [...] > Is there some tweak I can do on the kernel module, so that the choice > doesn't rely on any specific configuration on the AP? Not directly (usually), it's a mix of a few things (as you'd done/ mentioned). You may be able to set some preferences in Network Manager / wicd

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread andre_debian
On Thursday 20 July 2017 11:33:26 steve wrote: > Ok, une simple mise à jour donc. C'est vraiment étonnant que tu aies > autant de paquets en hold. C'est quand la dernière fois que tu as fait > cette opération ? > As-tu essayé de relancé la commande ? On Thursday 20 July 2017 11:34:40 Gaëtan

Installer le plugin facebook et hanghouts pour pidgin

2017-07-20 Thread G2PC
Bonjour, Je partage avec vous mon pâté qui ressemble à un script d'installation. Hormis le .deb qui est adapté pour Ubuntu / Mint, il devrait être fonctionnel pour GNU/linux Debian. Je cherche à améliorer la gestion des erreurs. Page officielle :

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Ah ok. Désolé je croyais que c'était de Jessie à Stretch. Ça fait combien de temps que tu n'avais pas mis à jour ta Jessie ? Tu as les dépôts backports ? Si oui un dist-upgrade peut-être nécessaire. Gaëtan Le 20 juillet 2017 11:20:12 GMT+02:00, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : >On

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread steve
Salut, Le 20-07-2017, à 11:20:12 +0200, André Debian a écrit : On Wednesday 19 July 2017 23:08:04 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:00:33 +0200 andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit: > Je viens de faire un apt-get upgrade de ma jessie vers dernière version. > apt-get update,

Re: user shutingdown/rebooting system w/wo sudo

2017-07-20 Thread Lck Ras
On 07/20/2017 05:39 PM, Fungi4All wrote: > Apart from what different wm/dm do, should a user without sudo > priviledges be able to stop or restart a system? > In most wm I have seen the user is able to do this without being > asked for root priviledges and I believe this is wrong and should > not

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread andre_debian
On Wednesday 19 July 2017 23:08:04 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: > Le Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:00:33 +0200 > andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit: > > Je viens de faire un apt-get upgrade de ma jessie vers dernière version. > > apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update, apt-get autoremove : > > Tout

Random hanging with stretch when laptop is connected to AC

2017-07-20 Thread Sebastiaan L. Zoutendijk
Dear Debian Users, Since I upgraded from jessie to stretch at the start of this month, I am experiencing random hangs when my laptop (Clevo W950JU barebone) is connected to AC. The screen freezes and if sound was playing it is repeated in a 2-second loop. The system does not recover from this

Re: user shutingdown/rebooting system w/wo sudo

2017-07-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 04:39:20AM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > Apart from what different wm/dm do, should a user without sudo > priviledges be able to stop or restart a system? > In most wm I have seen the user is able to do this without being > asked for root priviledges and I believe

Re: Quelle application pour piloter une chaine HiFi avec un smartphone Android ?

2017-07-20 Thread Pascal Obry
Olivier, > Quelle appli, respectant l'absence de gestionnaire de fenêtre, > conseillez-vous ? > Suggestions ? > > J'utilsie MPD (Music Player Daemon) sur mon serveur et l'application (Open Source aussi) Android MPDroid. Ça marche super bien, simple et fonctionnel. Cordialement, -- Pascal

user shutingdown/rebooting system w/wo sudo

2017-07-20 Thread Fungi4All
Apart from what different wm/dm do, should a user without sudo priviledges be able to stop or restart a system? In most wm I have seen the user is able to do this without being asked for root priviledges and I believe this is wrong and should not be done. As I see contradictory reading material on

[Résolu] Re: xfce4-terminal ne lit plus .dircolors

2017-07-20 Thread steve
Bonjour Etienne et merci pour cette réponse détaillée. J'ai corrigé la petite typo (le " manquant). Avant ta réponse, j'avais posé la question sur une autre liste et la solution vient du fait que xfce4-terminal ne lit .bashrc que si bash est utilisé comme un shell de connexion non interactif

Re: Quelle application pour piloter une chaine HiFi avec un smartphone Android ?

2017-07-20 Thread Samuel Cifuentes
Bonjour pour ma part, coté serveur j'utilise minidlna il y en a d'autres : fdupes, et puis des beaucoup plus "jolis" fais une recherche sur "dlna linux", tu en trouveras plein (Kodi, etc.) Le 20/07/2017 à 10:24, Olivier a écrit : Bonjour, À mon domicile, je met en place un nouveau

Quelle application pour piloter une chaine HiFi avec un smartphone Android ?

2017-07-20 Thread Olivier
Bonjour, À mon domicile, je met en place un nouveau serveur "headless" sous Debian Jessie. Ce serveur sera connecté à ma chaine HiFi qui n'a aucune fonction "informatique". J'envisage d'utiliser mon smartphone sous Android pour: 1. sélectionner mes disques et mes morceaux préalablement copiés

Re: Upgrade jessie et 604 paquets non mis à jour

2017-07-20 Thread Jean-Marc
Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:08:04 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait : > Le Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:00:33 +0200 > andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit: > > > Bonsoir, > > > > Je viens de faire un apt-get upgrade de ma jessie vers dernière version. > > > > apt-get update, apt-get

WLAN connection: 5 GHz priority

2017-07-20 Thread solitone
Although this issue is widely discussed, but I didn't find a way to solve it. My access point provides both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands, and I'd like my WiFi adapter chose 5 GHz over 2.4. To accomplish this, I reduced the AP's TX power for 2.4 GHz, and increased that for 5 GHz. The point is that

Re: problème python3 sur un apt-get upgrade

2017-07-20 Thread Alexandre Hoïde
On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 08:57:14AM +0200, Vincent Bain wrote: > Le mercredi 19 juillet 2017 à 21:44 +0200, Alexandre Hoïde a écrit : > > De quoi ? De Python, de Debian, ou des deux ? ;) Si tu parles de > > Debian, à ta place, j'essaierais également de résoudre les problèmes > > avant de passer à

Re: apt-get autoclean configuration

2017-07-20 Thread solitone
On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:02:04 CEST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > There is this function StringToBool in apt-pkg/contrib/strutl.cc: > > [...] > > |// Check for positives > |if (strcasecmp(Text.c_str(),"no") == 0 || > | > |strcasecmp(Text.c_str(),"false") == 0 || > |

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