Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread David Wright
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 20:21:27 (-0400), Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-13 6:55 p.m., songbird wrote: > > John Hasler wrote: > > ... > >> No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the > >> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-13 6:55 p.m., songbird wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > ... >> No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the >> sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the >> bottom. A septic tank, for example. It was common to respond to a >>

[OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Stefan Monnier
to...@tuxteam.de [2021-08-13 19:11:43] wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > [...] >> Plonk ? > Greg and The Wanderer already provided a definition. Just adding > one standard reference, the Jargon File [1] in such things. Old > Usenet lore.

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread John Hasler
songbird writes: > i found out years ago that i just don't have the energy any more to > get that mad about something on-line. the n key is many fewer > keystrokes than *plonk*. :) When I find that I'm hitting n every time I see a certain user I killfile them. Saves keystrokes, reduces

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread songbird
John Hasler wrote: ... > No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the > sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the > bottom. A septic tank, for example. It was common to respond to a > particularly asinine article with the one-word followup

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread ellanios82
On 8/14/21 12:17 AM, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: they won't stop and will just continue to argue against themselves   Quite, quite  : this is happening : now .

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Weaver
On 14-08-2021 07:37, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-13 5:31 p.m., Weaver wrote: >> On 14-08-2021 07:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote: Stefan writes: > How odd. I always assumed that it was the

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Punked was [Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)]

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-13 5:31 p.m., Dan Ritter wrote: > John Hasler wrote: >> Stefan writes: >>> How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style >>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly. >> >> No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the >>

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-13 5:31 p.m., Weaver wrote: > On 14-08-2021 07:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote: >>> Stefan writes: How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style representation of the sound of hanging up the

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Dan Ritter
John Hasler wrote: > Stefan writes: > > How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style > > representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly. > > No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the > sound of a small object dropping into a large tank

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Weaver
On 14-08-2021 07:17, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote: >> Stefan writes: >>> How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style >>> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly. >> >> No. I was there when it

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-13 4:59 p.m., John Hasler wrote: > Stefan writes: >> How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style >> representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly. > > No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the > sound of a small object

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Plonk (wss: Meta: behavior on list)

2021-08-13 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > How odd. I always assumed that it was the comic-strip style > representation of the sound of hanging up the phone abruptly. No. I was there when it came into use. It definitely represents the sound of a small object dropping into a large tank with liquid at the bottom. A

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread deloptes
Dan Ritter wrote: > There is no way in which the gender of any participant in > debian-users is relevant. Nor their sexuality, religion, skin > color, national origin, or even the fact that they use other > operating systems from time to time. It is not about the gender but the attitude, capice?

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-13 12:53 p.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> Plonk ? > > In this context, it's the sound that a name makes when it lands in a > killfile, ignore list, or whatever you call it for a given communications >

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 16:05:15 -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-13, Nicolas George wrote: > > > > I used the word "driver" in the technical sense: the piece of code in > > the operating system (in the widest possible sense) that makes it > > possible to use the device. In that sense a mouse

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread John Hasler
>From deep in prehistory, way back when bangpaths ruled and the stain that is Facebook had yet to spill upon the land: (I'm not the author) Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous bullshit, or to take words against a sea of whinings, and by

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > Plonk ? Greg and The Wanderer already provided a definition. Just adding one standard reference, the Jargon File [1] in such things. Old Usenet lore. Cheers [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/P/plonk.html

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-08-13 at 12:49, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > On 2021-08-13 12:41 p.m., Dan Ritter wrote: >> And in conclusion, plonk! > > Plonk ? The sound-effect "plonk" is the traditional onomatopoeia for the sound of a person (or E-mail address, or whatever) hitting the bottom of one's

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 12:49:34PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Plonk ? In this context, it's the sound that a name makes when it lands in a killfile, ignore list, or whatever you call it for a given communications medium.

Re: Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-13 12:41 p.m., Dan Ritter wrote: > deloptes wrote: >> @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and >> a waste of time. > > You should have stopped here. > > >> I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I >> think she is

Meta: behavior on list

2021-08-13 Thread Dan Ritter
deloptes wrote: > @Brian communication with Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside is meaningless and > a waste of time. You should have stopped here. > I even had to google her, because I had the feeling I talk to a troll. I > think she is extreme left ... lost in gendering and so on somewhere in >

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-13 1:08 a.m., deloptes wrote: > Brian wrote: > >> Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that >> a Mopria certified device should be ca[able of accepting PDF as a PDL >> in addition to PWG raster and PCLm. >> >>> And all of the condition make a printer

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-13 11:47 a.m., Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Thx to Polyna especially, for telling me that I have x86-64 machine. Do > not yet know x86 part but 64bit it certainly is. > In Mint 32bit i686 still. but now > I know a little bit (!) more about this machine, how chmod is not wise > to use,

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-13 8:33 a.m., Henning Follmann wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 11:15:10AM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: >> I tried to partition with rEFInd because Linux Mint 19 i386 xfce 32bit >> worked with EFI. In hope to upgrade to x86-64bit. After it looked like all >> good, I went out,

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-13, Nicolas George wrote: > > I used the word "driver" in the technical sense: the piece of code in > the operating system (in the widest possible sense) that makes it > possible to use the device. In that sense a mouse requires the driver in But here the "driver," in your sense of

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-13 8:00 a.m., Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 01:53:44PM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> Gunnar Gervin wrote: >> >>> (Later upgrade to 64bit if I can). >> >> I am not sure if you can upgrade 32 to 64bit OS. AFAIK you reinstall > > This is called a "crossgrade" sometimes

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Gunnar Gervin
Thx to Polyna especially, for telling me that I have x86-64 machine. Do not yet know x86 part but 64bit it certainly is. In Mint 32bit i686 still. but now I know a little bit (!) more about this machine, how chmod is not wise to use, etc. Kinda fun, cos Mint lets me in again. So far. My Mini PC

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Greg Wooledge wrote: >On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 01:53:44PM +0200, deloptes wrote: >> Gunnar Gervin wrote: >> >> > (Later upgrade to 64bit if I can). >> >> I am not sure if you can upgrade 32 to 64bit OS. AFAIK you reinstall > >This is called a "crossgrade" sometimes (a portmanteau of "cross" and

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12021-08-13): > Consider a driverless car. It is not really driverless in the sense > you espouse. Otherwise it would not be going anywhere, would it? > From the point of view of the passengers and the Authorities there > isn't a human driver. Exactly. "Driverless" uses the word "driver"

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 15:26:03 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Brian (12021-08-13): > > Did you read the Release Notes for Bullseye? (No advice on cat controls, > > though :) ). > > Enough to upgrade, but I do not know what it has to do with connecting a > printer to an OpenWRT router. There is

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Nicolas George
Brian (12021-08-13): > Did you read the Release Notes for Bullseye? (No advice on cat controls, > though :) ). Enough to upgrade, but I do not know what it has to do with connecting a printer to an OpenWRT router. > Also, the printing system does not have a unified driver. The drivers > used

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 13:10:46 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Hi. > > We finally found an HP DeskJet 2723e at a closer vendor; in terms of > price and bulk it was much closer to to or needs the one we had and the > cat broke. > > I first set it up on wifi only. I used the proprietary HP

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Joe
On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 08:00:35 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 01:53:44PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > > > I am not sure if you can upgrade 32 to 64bit OS. AFAIK you > > reinstall > > This is called a "crossgrade" sometimes (a portmanteau of "cross" and > "upgrade"). It

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 11:15:10AM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > I tried to partition with rEFInd because Linux Mint 19 i386 xfce 32bit > worked with EFI. In hope to upgrade to x86-64bit. After it looked like all > good, I went out, thinking it was OK. But installation came back to start, > asking

Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread ellanios82
On 8/13/21 2:48 PM, deloptes wrote: For me it is not a problem, I simply ignore her posts  - Quite, quite  :) .

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 01:53:44PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Gunnar Gervin wrote: > > > (Later upgrade to 64bit if I can). > > I am not sure if you can upgrade 32 to 64bit OS. AFAIK you reinstall This is called a "crossgrade" sometimes (a portmanteau of "cross" and "upgrade"). It is NOT

Re: Root location

2021-08-13 Thread deloptes
Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Better I try boot > Then see what happens. very good idea > (Later upgrade to 64bit if I can). I am not sure if you can upgrade 32 to 64bit OS. AFAIK you reinstall -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:43:35AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > I don't think tomas felt he was under personal attack, but that he perceived > a > personal attack on Polyna. Good catch, thanks :-) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread deloptes
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> I do not insult anyone and do not attack people, please stop with this BS >> of excuse by political correctness. > > I don't think tomas felt he was under personal attack, but that he > perceived a personal attack on Polyna And I understood completely well. So I

Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, August 13, 2021 02:42:55 AM deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Can we please avoid personal insults? > > > > Each of us has his/her difficult points. If you have issues with > > those points, by all means, speak up. But **attacking people > > personally** does not belong in

Re: Debian Meetup in Stockholm August 2021

2021-08-13 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2021-08-13 skrev Martin Schöön : > Or is it obvious, like the only non-hipsters present? :-) > > /Martin Sorry about the double-posting. I got an error message the first time. /Martin

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Nicolas George
Hi. We finally found an HP DeskJet 2723e at a closer vendor; in terms of price and bulk it was much closer to to or needs the one we had and the cat broke. I first set it up on wifi only. I used the proprietary HP application on my phone, it used bluetooth to give the wifi password to the

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 06:29:52 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-13 6:12 a.m., Brian wrote: > > On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 18:56:58 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2021-08-12 6:27 p.m., Brian wrote: > >>> On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
Hi, On 2021-08-13 6:12 a.m., Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 18:56:58 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 2021-08-12 6:27 p.m., Brian wrote: >>> On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 15:33:26 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >>> Hi, On 2021-08-12 3:22

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Aug 2021 at 09:10:06 -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-08-12, Brian wrote: > > > >> Possibility to send the data in PDF format directly (or JPG) > >> Auto discovery of the services offered thru "Bonjour". > > > > Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that > > a

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 18:56:58 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-08-12 6:27 p.m., Brian wrote: > > On Thu 12 Aug 2021 at 15:33:26 -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 2021-08-12 3:22 p.m., Brian wrote: > >>> On Tue 10 Aug 2021 at

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Curt
On 2021-08-12, Brian wrote: > >> Possibility to send the data in PDF format directly (or JPG) >> Auto discovery of the services offered thru "Bonjour". > > Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that > a Mopria certified device should be ca[able of accepting PDF as a

Root location

2021-08-13 Thread Gunnar Gervin
I tried to partition with rEFInd because Linux Mint 19 i386 xfce 32bit worked with EFI. In hope to upgrade to x86-64bit. After it looked like all good, I went out, thinking it was OK. But installation came back to start, asking me to choose put boot in Mbr, Partition with Gparted or Abort. Mbr

Re: Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 09:03:11AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > deloptes wrote: > > > I think she is extreme left ... > > Would be no surprise with our little commie operating system. This list wouldn't be the same without your humour. (and of course without your deep knowledge you

Re: Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deloptes wrote: > > I think she is extreme left ... Would be no surprise with our little commie operating system. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I strongly disagree. > me too -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

Re: Debian Meetup in Stockholm August 2021

2021-08-13 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2021-08-12 skrev Luna Jernberg : > --1218a305c95711a8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi! > > i will show up myself on Saturday and Sunday this week > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:56 PM Luna Jernberg wrote: > >> Hey! >> >> Me and @Helio Loureiro decided we will have

Re: Debian Meetup in Stockholm August 2021

2021-08-13 Thread Martin Schöön
Den 2021-08-12 skrev Luna Jernberg : > --1218a305c95711a8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi! > > i will show up myself on Saturday and Sunday this week > > On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 8:56 PM Luna Jernberg wrote: > >> Hey! >> >> Me and @Helio Loureiro decided we will have

Re: OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 08:42:55AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Can we please avoid personal insults? > I do not insult anyone and do not attack people [...] I strongly disagree. Rest taken off-list. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

OFFTOPIC Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Can we please avoid personal insults? > > Each of us has his/her difficult points. If you have issues with > those points, by all means, speak up. But **attacking people > personally** does not belong in this list. I do not insult anyone and do not attack people,

Re: Root in /target : how change it?

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 05:29:42AM +0300, Gunnar Gervin wrote: > Hi again. > How use chroot (in terminal) to place Root in /dev/sda1(147gb) > (if that is the better place for it)? > My impression of root in /target is that it isn't easy to find for PC. (Why > the installation system "commits

Re: All-in-One printer: HP OfficeJet 8012

2021-08-13 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:08:06AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > Please give a link at the Mopria website substantiating your clain that > > a Mopria certified device should be ca[able of accepting PDF as a PDL > > in addition to PWG raster and PCLm. > > > >> And all of the