[(fwd): [Debian/Bullseye] - Come far scattare il 'fallback relayhost'?]

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[Debian/Bullseye] - Come far scattare il 'fallback relayhost'?

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Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server -- resolved

> On 8 Sep 2022, at 02:52, Gary Dale wrote: > >  > On 2022-09-07 17:49, Gareth Evans wrote: >> >> >>> On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:24, Gareth Evans wrote: >>> >>>  >>> >>> On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:01, Gareth Evans wrote:  > On 7 Sep 2022, at 21:27, Gareth Evans wr

Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server -- resolved

On 2022-09-07 17:49, Gareth Evans wrote: On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:24, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:01, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 7 Sep 2022, at 21:27, Gareth Evans wrote:  On 7 Sep 2022, at 17:55, Gary Dale wrote: I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limi

Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server

> On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:24, Gareth Evans wrote: > >  > > >>> On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:01, Gareth Evans wrote: >>> >>  >> >> On 7 Sep 2022, at 21:27, Gareth Evans wrote: >>>  >>> >>> On 7 Sep 2022, at 17:55, Gary Dale wrote: I'm using a web hosting company that pret

Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server

> On 7 Sep 2022, at 22:01, Gareth Evans wrote: > >  > > >>> On 7 Sep 2022, at 21:27, Gareth Evans wrote: >>> >>  >> >> >>> On 7 Sep 2022, at 17:55, Gary Dale wrote: >>> I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limits me to using >>> PHPMailer on their servers for sending comp

Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server

> On 7 Sep 2022, at 21:27, Gareth Evans wrote: > >  > > >> On 7 Sep 2022, at 17:55, Gary Dale wrote: >> I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limits me to using >> PHPMailer on their servers for sending complex e-mails (e.g. with >> attachments). That is working. >> >> [...]

Re: How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server

 > On 7 Sep 2022, at 17:55, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limits me to using > PHPMailer on their servers for sending complex e-mails (e.g. with > attachments). That is working. > > [...] > However when I try it with my local Apache2 server, it doesn't

How do I install PHPMailer on a Debian/Bullseye Apache2 server

I'm using a web hosting company that pretty much limits me to using PHPMailer on their servers for sending complex e-mails (e.g. with attachments). That is working. To get it to work, I used the zip archive from the PHPMailer's github page and unzipped it into the site's public directory - so

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 11:58:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: There may be user space components too. I don't know if Debian still ships with openssl or another SSL library now but openssl specifically can be compiled in some FIPS compatibility mode. That's not currently true; as far as I k

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

On 2022-06-15 18:08, Dan Ritter wrote: Tapas Das wrote: Dan, On Redhat Linux, to enable FIPS, FIPS package is available https://access.redhat.com/discussions/3293631 ==> Explains how to validate if FIPS is enabled on Redhat Linux I am looking for something like that, whereby I can inst

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

Tapas Das wrote: > Dan, > > On Redhat Linux, to enable FIPS, FIPS package is available >https://access.redhat.com/discussions/3293631 ==> Explains how to > validate if FIPS is enabled on Redhat Linux > > I am looking for something like that, whereby I can install a package and > en

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

rds Tapas Das -Original Message- From: Dan Ritter Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 1:57 PM To: Tapas Das Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available Tapas Das wrote: > Team Debian, > > Is it possible to enable FI

Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

Tapas Das wrote: > Team Debian, > > Is it possible to enable FIPS on Debian / Debian bullseye. What precisely do you mean? For me, FIPS generally means Federal Information Processing Standards, and refers to a series of documents and protocols that the US government likes. For exam

Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

Team Debian, Is it possible to enable FIPS on Debian / Debian bullseye. Regards Tapas Das

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On 5/22/22, Charles Kroeger wrote: >> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. > > I get a login shell with $su --login > > I don't have sudo installed > > is there something heretical about that, I should know? If this is for your personal machine, no. If this is a multi-user en

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 03:32:22PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-05-22 at 14:53, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > >> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. > > > > I get a login shell with $su --login > > > > I don't have sudo installed > > > > is there something heretical ab

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 09:37:43PM +0200, basti wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=918754#41 > > or use su -l For the record, that URL says: This is a new behavior because the util-linux implementation of su is used now. See also /usr/share/doc/util-linux/NEWS.Debian.

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

Am 20.05.22 um 02:24 schrieb Kenneth Parker: On Thu, May 19, 2022, 4:14 AM 황병희 > wrote: Tom Browder mailto:tom.brow...@gmail.com>> writes: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > su." (...) Just you try like

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On 2022-05-22 at 14:53, Charles Kroeger wrote: >> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. > > I get a login shell with $su --login > > I don't have sudo installed > > is there something heretical about that, I should know? Not heretical, but - if something has compromised your

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. I get a login shell with $su --login I don't have sudo installed is there something heretical about that, I should know?

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 11:04 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > So... we literally can't tell what you did. I think that character munging is because of the unwanted, unedititible html mail from my ipad gmail client. Still wondering why you can't just use the other solutions you've been > given. If

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:40 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > So, I've already given you the solution that *I* would use, which is: > > ln -s /opt/raku/bin/raku /usr/local/bin/raku That works fine, but another part of the work flow for nstallation is the need to access another Raku program which mus

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 10:48:44AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > Yes, I actually used that syntax but failed to put it in the message—same > result: > > sudo —preserve-env=PATH raku -v > sudo: raku: command not found You might have misspelled --preserve. It's hard to tell, because what y

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 09:02 wrote: … Socratic -- I fear you over-estimate me badly :-) You are too modest! Note that the key --preserve-env takes an arg. That would be > > --preserve-env=PATH > > to pass on the PATH environment variable. The arg is a comma separated > list of environment v

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

[reinserted the copy to list: others tend to have better ideas than me] On Sun, May 22, 2022 at 06:15:57AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 11:28 wrote: > ... > > > I'm sure the OP is now able to locate that "security policy" config > > and change it to taste. "--preserve-env=

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 06:04:07PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > Greg Wooledge writes: > > > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:04:01AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > > I am getting nowhere fast. > > > > OK, let's start at the beginning. > > > > You have raku installed in some directory that is not in a regu

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

Greg Wooledge writes: On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:04:01AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I am getting nowhere fast. OK, let's start at the beginning. You have raku installed in some directory that is not in a regular PATH. You won't tell us what this directory is, so let's pretend it's /opt/raku/

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 10:04:01AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I am getting nowhere fast. OK, let's start at the beginning. You have raku installed in some directory that is not in a regular PATH. You won't tell us what this directory is, so let's pretend it's /opt/raku/bin/raku. You have added

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 09:02 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 03:19:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Less typing, more general. Nobody's trying to dissuade you of doing > > "sudo bash" or "sudo su" or... > I am getting nowhere fast. I think all will be okay if (and only if)

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 03:19:09PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Less typing, more general. Nobody's trying to dissuade you of doing > "sudo bash" or "sudo su" or... I'm definitely trying to dissuade people from doing the latter. It's one of those horrible memes that has spread maliciously for

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 11:12:01AM +, Lee wrote: > On 5/19/22, Tom Browder wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54 Kamil Jońca wrote: > > > >> It is quite misterious for me. > >> What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" or "sudo -i" > < .. snip ..> > > > > I have for years n

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Sat 21 May 2022 at 12:24:04 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2022-05-20 at 18:44 +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 20:24:50 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Note, Debian (at least in the Expert Installation Mode) lets me set a Root > > > Password. Ubuntu doesn't,

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Fri, 2022-05-20 at 18:44 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 20:24:50 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: > > [...] > > > Note, Debian (at least in the Expert Installation Mode) lets me set a Root > > Password. Ubuntu doesn't, so one of my early actions after the Install is > > to enter "su

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On 5/19/22, Tom Browder wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54 Kamil Jońca wrote: > >> It is quite misterious for me. >> What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" or "sudo -i" < .. snip ..> > > I have for years now not used the many variants of su, just "sudo" alone > for one-off

Re: Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 09:36:40PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I wasn't even thinking of it in those terms, although now that you point > it out that's a good thing to be aware of. I was thinking of it in terms > of A: trying to write scripts that are safe against such problematic > elements being

Re: Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

On 2022-05-20 at 21:20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 08:41:43PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2022-05-20 at 20:28, David Wright wrote: >> >> > $ function /usr/bin/sudo { echo teehee; } >> > $ /usr/bin/sudo whatever >> > teehee >> > $ >> >> A quick test demonstrates that th

Re: Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 08:41:43PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2022-05-20 at 20:28, David Wright wrote: > > $ function /usr/bin/sudo { echo teehee; } > > $ /usr/bin/sudo whatever > > teehee > > $ > > A quick test demonstrates that this can be worked around via the 'unset' > command: Until yo

Avoiding command hijacking in shells (was Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11))

On 2022-05-20 at 20:28, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 15:42:33 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >> On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: >> > Tom Browder writes: >> > >> > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo >> > > su." (...) >> > >> > Just yo

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Fri, May 20, 2022, 7:28 PM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 19 May 2022 at 15:42:33 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > > > Tom Browder writes: > > > > > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > > > su." (...) > > > >

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu 19 May 2022 at 15:42:33 (-0500), Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > > Tom Browder writes: > > > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > > su." (...) > > > > Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way.

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu 19 May 2022 at 20:24:50 -0400, Kenneth Parker wrote: [...] > Note, Debian (at least in the Expert Installation Mode) lets me set a Root > Password. Ubuntu doesn't, so one of my early actions after the Install is > to enter "sudo su -" and, on the resulting Root Shell, type "passwd root".

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 8:25 PM Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022, 4:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > >> Tom Browder writes: >> >> > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo >> > su." (...) >> >> You do not need to use sudo with su. When you enter su you are prompted

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 4:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > su." (...) > > Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way. > > Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee > > -- > ^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^))// > When

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022, 3:14 AM 황병희 wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > > su." (...) > > Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way. > When I need to use sudo or su to invoke executables, I fully qualify the pa

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:31 Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > > > > I feel like you're doing "sudo su" out of some bad habit that you've > > > developed. You'd be doing yourself a favor if you retrain yourself > > > to use "sudo -s" instead. > > > > Greg, I think I need to change the paths in the sud

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:22:07AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:47:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > > $ sudo su > > > # ./myprog install > > > > Again, there's no reason to use both "sudo" AND "su". Just

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 06:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:47:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > $ sudo su > > # ./myprog install > > Again, there's no reason to use both "sudo" AND "su". Just "sudo -s" > would give you the interactive root shell, without changing di

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 05:47:29AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > $ sudo su > # ./myprog install Again, there's no reason to use both "sudo" AND "su". Just "sudo -s" would give you the interactive root shell, without changing directory. I feel like you're doing "sudo su" out of some bad hab

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54 Kamil Jońca wrote: > Tom Browder writes: > > > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." > How can I set that up correctly? > > It is quite misterious for me. > What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" or "sudo -i" KJ,

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

Tom Browder writes: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." How > can I set that up correctly? It is quite misterious for me. What is the purpose of "sudo su" instead of plain "sudo" or "sudo -i" KJ -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

Tom Browder writes: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo > su." (...) Just you try like as "sudo su -". Sometimes i use it that way. Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On 2022-05-19 04:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: A much better workaround is to create the /etc/default/su file and put the line ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes well that's handy. "su -" puts you in /root whereas with that you stay in $PWD. cheers mick

Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 09:36:56PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." How > can I set that up correctly? Let's start by pointing out how silly the latter is. You're running TWO different setuid programs, either one of which is capab

setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)

I need a special path setting for root after both "sudo" and "sudo su." How can I set that up correctly? Searching for a definitive answer seems hopeless. Any working solution is greatly appreciated. In desperation I've thought about modifying /etc/login.defs for both root and all users, but hope

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 28/04/2022 18:05, Stefan Monnier wrote: I finally got it working! I blame lack of attention to details, old age, shaky hands, and < 100% vision. I uninstalled the ssd, looked all over I consider these kinds of reaction as a variation of Stockholm syndrome: when something doesn't work under G

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 5/5/22 10:23, Borden wrote: Good to see that the issue was just mis-installation, as I recently upgraded from a Samsung 2TB EVO to a Crucial 2 TB drive without issue (well, I had PLENTY of issues with Samsung's "customer service" and Newegg's "return policy"). Resolved never to buy Samsu

Re: Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

Good to see that the issue was just mis-installation, as I recently upgraded from a Samsung 2TB EVO to a Crucial 2 TB drive without issue (well, I had PLENTY of issues with Samsung's "customer service" and Newegg's "return policy"). Resolved never to buy Samsung products again, as their "warran

[SOLVED] Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 14:17 Tom Browder wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:12 Alexander V. Makartsev > wrote: > >> On 27.04.2022 20:37, Tom Browder wrote: >> > ... >> > If either of those fail to see it, I’m afraid I toasted it. I don’t >> > think that will qualify for a return. > > > I final

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 27/04/2022 18:11, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: It is next to impossible to actually mishandle and "toast" a device simply by unpacking it and connecting to a SATA port. (Even when PC is powered on¹). SSDs are not fragile, they are electrically compatible with SATA standard, so both data and p

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 27/04/2022 12:57, Tom Browder wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 06:42 Christian Britz mailto:cbr...@t-online.de>> wrote: ... I have seem some indications on the web though, which suggest there might be an ISO image for updating the drive too. What is the exact model name? Crucial M

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:08:04 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > On 27.04.2022 16:06, Tom Browder wrote: > > I am trying to replace the original hard drive on an old Toshiba > > laptop with a 1 TB SSD from Crucial. (I had recently successfully done > > that in an old Dell Latitude and had n

Re: how to install gcc-6 in debian bullseye

On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 11:51:02PM +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 5/2/22 23:25, michaelmorgan...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can anyone kindly instruct me how to install gcc-6 in Debian 11? I need > > compile a software and was hinted gcc version (10) is too high. I have > > old machine with gcc 6 a

Re: how to install gcc-6 in debian bullseye

On 5/2/22 23:25, michaelmorgan...@gmail.com wrote: > Can anyone kindly instruct me how to install gcc-6 in Debian 11? I need > compile a software and was hinted gcc version (10) is too high. I have > old machine with gcc 6 and was able to compile it there. > It seems that Debian 9 has gcc-6 so yo

Re: how to install gcc-6 in debian bullseye

On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 03:25:20PM -0500, michaelmorgan...@gmail.com wrote: > Can anyone kindly instruct me how to install gcc-6 in Debian 11? I need > compile a software and was hinted gcc version (10) is too high. I have > old machine with gcc 6 and was able to compile it there. Stop looking at

how to install gcc-6 in debian bullseye

Can anyone kindly instruct me how to install gcc-6 in Debian 11? I need compile a software and was hinted gcc version (10) is too high. I have old machine with gcc 6 and was able to compile it there. Thank you very much. Michael

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 4/27/22 05:24, Will Mengarini wrote: * Tom Browder [22-04/27=We 05:50 -0500]: I really appreciate all the advice, but I am not going to build from scratch again [...]. Just in case anybody's discouraged that the OP won't build from scratch, I just want to say /I/ found this thread valuable

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 4/27/22 03:50, Tom Browder wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 08:49 Christian Britz wrote: ... I really appreciate all the advice, but I am not going to build from scratch again (but I will encourage my grandchildren if they ever get interested). In that vein, the link on the modern build-your-

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 12:12 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 27.04.2022 20:37, Tom Browder wrote: > > ... > > If either of those fail to see it, I’m afraid I toasted it. I don’t > > think that will qualify for a return. I finally got it working! I blame lack of attention to details, old age

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 27.04.2022 20:37, Tom Browder wrote: ... If either of those fail to see it, I’m afraid I toasted it. I don’t think that will qualify for a return. ... What makes you think that way? It is next to impossible to actually mishandle and "toast" a device simply by unpacking it and connecting t

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

Tom Browder composed on 2022-04-27 10:37 (UTC-0500): > I removed the old drive, installed the new SSD, then booted off a Debian > live dvd. > It never found the drive, so I may have killed it. Killed it how? My Linux-only 120G & 240G MX500s were mere PNP, the smaller originally setup in a tower

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 10:11 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Tom > > Did you remove the old drive and try the SSD using the installer? > I removed the old drive, installed the new SSD, then booted off a Debian live dvd. It never found the drive, so I may have killed it. I am twiddling my thumbs unti

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

Tom Did you remove the old drive and try the SSD using the installer? On 27 April 2022 11:06:20 am UTC, Tom Browder wrote: >I am trying to replace the original hard drive on an old Toshiba laptop >with a 1 TB SSD from Crucial. (I had recently successfully done that in an >old Dell Latitude and

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

Tom Browder wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 06:42 Christian Britz wrote: > ... > > I have seem some indications on the web though, which suggest there > > might be an ISO image for updating the drive too. What is the exact > > model name? > > > > Crucial MX500 1000GB 2.5-INCH SOLID STATE DRIVE

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 8:48 AM Anssi Saari wrote: > Tom Browder writes: ... > Looks like the SB800 south bridge supports SATA 3.0 6Gb/s interfaces so > it doesn't seem like it's the problem here. But I have no idea what the > problem could be, other than a faulty drive. Well, as I said original

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

Tom Browder writes: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:08 Alexander V. Makartsev > wrote: > ... > > The laptop is a Toshiba C655D-S5136 Satellite. > The SSD is a Crucial MX500 1000GB 2.5 inch SSD. Some quick specs from https://www.cnet.com/reviews/toshiba-satellite-c655d-review/: Price as reviewed

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

Hi, Christian Britz wrote: > I found it. https://www.crucial.com/support/ssd-support/mx500-support, > there seem to be two versions. Click on the appropriate blue button, a > zip file will be downloaded which contains the ISO. Apparently this can > not be written to USB. Both of them look like th

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 2022-04-27 07:46:27 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > And for future reference, what brand of SSDs (and memory) do you use? A few months ago, when I looked at what was recommended to change the SSD disk of my laptop, I found that the Samsung 870 EVO 1TB was generally recommended. So this is what I ch

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 2022-04-27 17:08:04 +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > I've never heard anything like that and I've worked with many > consumer-grade SSDs. > Usually all SSDs "just work". They may come pre-partitioned and > pre-formatted, but this could be reconfigured with any standard utility > programs.

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 2022-04-27 14:46 UTC+0200, Tom Browder wrote: > And for future reference, what brand of SSDs (and memory) do you use? Currently I use what is built in to my laptop, a SK Hynix SSD. The Raspi home server is connected to a traditional hard disk. In the past I had a Samsung EVO SSD for home u

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 27.04.2022 17:17, Tom Browder wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:08 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: ... The laptop is a Toshiba C655D-S5136 Satellite. The SSD is a Crucial MX500 1000GB 2.5 inch SSD. Thanks, Alexander. -Tom Crucial MX500 is based on SM2258 controller IC from Silicon Motion.

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:30 Christian Britz wrote: … > I found it. https://www.crucial.com/support/ssd-support/mx500-support, > there seem to be two versions. Click on the appropriate blue button, a > zip file will be downloaded which contains the ISO. Apparently this can > not be written to US

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

* Tom Browder [22-04/27=We 05:50 -0500]: > I really appreciate all the advice, but I am > not going to build from scratch again [...]. Just in case anybody's discouraged that the OP won't build from scratch, I just want to say /I/ found this thread valuable too. Where do you all buy parts? Alte

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 2022-04-27 14:22 UTC+0200, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2022-04-27 13:57 UTC+0200, Tom Browder wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 06:42 Christian Britz > > wrote: >> ... >> >> I have seem some indications on the web though, which suggest there >> might b

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 2022-04-27 13:57 UTC+0200, Tom Browder wrote: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 06:42 Christian Britz > wrote: > ... > > I have seem some indications on the web though, which suggest there > might be an ISO image for updating the drive too. What is the exact >

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:08 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: ... The laptop is a Toshiba C655D-S5136 Satellite. The SSD is a Crucial MX500 1000GB 2.5 inch SSD. Thanks, Alexander. -Tom

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 27.04.2022 16:06, Tom Browder wrote: I am trying to replace the original hard drive on an old Toshiba laptop with a 1 TB SSD from Crucial. (I had recently successfully done that in an old Dell Latitude and had no problems.) I first did a clean install of Debian 11 on the old drive to ensure

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 06:42 Christian Britz wrote: ... I have seem some indications on the web though, which suggest there > might be an ISO image for updating the drive too. What is the exact > model name? > Crucial MX500 1000GB 2.5-INCH SOLID STATE DRIVE Thanks, Christian -Tom

Re: Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

On 2022-04-27 13:06 UTC+0200, Tom Browder wrote: > drive. From what I can find at Crucial, I need to install their Storage > Executive program on a Windows host, hook up the SSD to a USB/SATA > connector on that host, and configure or install the firmware onto the SSD. Sounds really crappy. A

Crucial SSDs and Debian Bullseye

I am trying to replace the original hard drive on an old Toshiba laptop with a 1 TB SSD from Crucial. (I had recently successfully done that in an old Dell Latitude and had no problems.) I first did a clean install of Debian 11 on the old drive to ensure the laptop works okay. Then I installed the

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 08:49 Christian Britz wrote: ... I really appreciate all the advice, but I am not going to build from scratch again (but I will encourage my grandchildren if they ever get interested). In that vein, the link on the modern build-your-own case (Fractal Design) from David wa

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 2022-04-26 15:28 UTC+0200, Stefan Monnier wrote: > As a Debian user who considers current computer hardware should have a life > expectancy of at least 10 years, my main question w.r.t to those beasts > is what part of the hardware is supported by the vanilla Linux kernel > (since that's gen

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 2022-04-26 10:49 UTC+0200, Jeremy Ardley wrote: > I also use a fanless home server, but it's definitely no slouch. > > My one is a NanoPi M4V2 usingRockchip RK3399 64-bit Dual Core Cortex-A72 + > Quad Core Cortex-A53 It [...] > snappy. It gets 12.47 seconds in the hardinfo n-queens test w

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my remote ones. I am looking at Dell's site and an almost-empty chassis with a low-end Intel, 1 TB SATA, and 8 Gb ECC RAM is in the $800 ball park. It looks very upgr

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 26/4/22 2:56 pm, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-04-25 23:58 UTC+0200, Stefan Monnier wrote: That's quite vague. I myself use a BananaPi as home server with good results (for my use case anyway), but I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't cover half the needs of some other people's notion of "ho

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 2022-04-25 23:58 UTC+0200, Stefan Monnier wrote: > That's quite vague. I myself use a BananaPi as home server with good > results (for my use case anyway), but I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't > cover half the needs of some other people's notion of "home server". I agree with Stefan. I am

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 4/25/22 18:57, Felix Miata wrote: Tom Browder composed on 2022-04-25 18:30 (UTC-0400): I'm now 78 and don't do serious building any more--I stand a good chance of frying a CPU! And I wouldn't trust any of my friends, either ;-D IMO, almost everyone who can admin a server can build one. It'

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

Tom Browder composed on 2022-04-25 18:30 (UTC-0400): > I'm now 78 and don't do serious building any more--I stand a good chance of > frying a CPU! And I wouldn't trust any of my friends, either ;-D IMO, almost everyone who can admin a server can build one. It's a lot simpler than it was 30-40 ye

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On 4/25/22 15:30, Tom Browder wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:07 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my remote ones. And to all others, thanks for your advice. I'm now

Re: Recommendations for a home server running Debian Bullseye (11)?

On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:07 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 10:25:46AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > I am looking for a commercial grade server (for home use) to replace my > > remote ones. ... The HP Microserver is the same sort of beast: HPE Proliant Microserver > Gen 10

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