On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 10:05:28AM +1000, John wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
Oregonians, and to a
On 2002.05.26 23:21 Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the
crap
bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was
a
great place to base a lot of Operations.
Most Americans tend to
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 23:02, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
On 2002.05.26 23:21 Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the
crap
bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was
a
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl
Harbor to awaken the sleeping giant. It actually created a giant
superpower as we like to refer to ourselves. Then on Sept. 11 the
giant awoke again. If something
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
while the US is the lone hyperpower.
There's that superiority complex again.
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Would you deep thinker mind taking this tread offline.
Or maybe start a new list debian-soapbox
Thanks,
David
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 10:21:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
while the US is the lone hyperpower.
There's that
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').
You wanna talk about bitter? South Carolina's unofficial state motto
is 'WE didn't surrender'
Ian,
I've
I just realized I started this thread, several topics ago!
Nothing like militaristic Nazi Germany will happen again
while the US is the lone hyperpower.
Unless fascism takes root in the United States itself. Please read my essay
Is This the America I Love
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 08:02:33AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
But our behaviour as a nation is still young and foolish - maybe if
our elected officials served their country rather than their wallets
we would mature as nation, at a faster pace. I think the lacking
Unfortunately, the
On 2002.05.27 08:02 Thomas Good wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March
Sea').
You wanna talk about bitter? South Carolina's unofficial state
motto
On Monday 27 May 2002 05:02 am, Thomas Good wrote:
[snip]
I've come to regard (former President) Jimmy Carter as a sort of Yank
version of Gandhi. He works hard to help people in need (Habitat for
Humanity), uses his influence for the common good (trying to normalise
relations with Castro),
On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote:
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took
Pearl Harbor to awaken the sleeping giant. It actually created a
giant superpower as we like to refer to ourselves.
This contradiction is only apparent.
While it's perhaps true that most citizen of the USA (*) are pacifist,
most of them are also unaware of what their government _actually_ do in
the matter of foriegn affairs.
This is true, but I think most US citizens prefer to not know these
things,
Dale Hair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
CIA's School of the Americas trained military men from most countries
in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported
economically and politically all of the coups d'etat during the '70s,
mainly to stop the lefty political
On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 17:54, Keith Willoughby wrote:
Dale Hair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
CIA's School of the Americas trained military men from most countries
in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported
economically and politically all of the coups d'etat
on Mon, May 27, 2002, Thomas Good ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Sun, 26 May 2002, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
Oh, that's nothing. You should see what the Yanks do to folks they
really don't like (hint: do a Google search for 'Sherman March Sea').
You wanna talk about bitter? South
You're right, I forgot how I got into this thread, I think it was the
beer. I just poured myself a shot of Bushmills, an Irish whisky.
Memorial Day weekend is over and I'm facing the alligators again in the
morning.
I've pointed this out off-list to several participants.
This discussion is
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 23:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
snip
As much as US action was admirable during World War II, I've noticed
that pretty much every American accomplishment mentioned in casual
conversation is extremely violent, and yet Americans still refer to
America as a peace-loving nation.
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 22:29, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
It's not a bizarre superiority complex. May not be valid,
but certainly not bizarre. I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
You aren't talking about Kent State are you?
I think that's where it was, I
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
It's not a bizarre superiority complex. May not be valid,
but certainly not bizarre. I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies aren't
not speaking Japanese, and the Brits now
begin Craig Dickson quotation:
(Hah. NOW we'll have a flamewar.)
Look, guys, it was a JOKE. J - O - K - E. JOKE. Not meant to be taken
seriously.
Craig
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On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 00:41, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
You aren't talking about
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
home and abroad. And it was still a cheap shot for the national gaurd
to open fire from a helicopter on an unarmed, peaceful war protest.
You aren't talking about Kent State
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 07:57:27AM -0400, Thomas Good wrote:
about this insensitive behaviour. This sort of thing is not taught
in American schools perhaps because it is seemingly at odds with our
democratic principles. The less polished side of US history is covered
well by Howard Zinn
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 06:57, Thomas Good wrote:
On Sat, 25 May 2002, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 12:02:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
[snip]
By the way gents, there was no helicopter involved at Kent State.
2 days before the Massacre, there was a helicopter used to
try and
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
Oregonians, and to a lesser degree, Idahoans, tend to look in from the
On 2002.05.26 20:05 John wrote:
There's a lot of Aussies still pretty bitter about how hard it was to
get the Yanks to abandon the idea of giving nearly half the contenent
to the Empire. We sometimes wonder if that's what our allies are like
what would we expect in say an invasion from
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 19:05, John wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
Oregonians, and to a lesser
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 19:38, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
On 2002.05.26 20:05 John wrote:
There's a lot of Aussies still pretty bitter about how hard it was to
get the Yanks to abandon the idea of giving nearly half the contenent
to the Empire. We sometimes wonder if that's what our allies
Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the crap
bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was a
great place to base a lot of Operations.
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl
Harbor to awaken the sleeping giant. It
On Sun, 2002-05-26 at 21:42, Dale Hair wrote:
Actually, the USA was asked to help Australia in 1939. We had the crap
bombed out of us. After Pearl Harbour the USA decided that Oz was a
great place to base a lot of Operations.
Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it
on Thu, May 23, 2002, Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Glyn Millington wrote:
When woody emerges, what's the best champagne?
By definition, one from Champagne, France -- anything else is not
champagne, only sparkling wine (not that that can't be good; I'm just
being picky about
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
Pity there's nobody on the list living in Napa serving the wine
industry
Or Oregon, for those of us who avoid sending money to California.
I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_
distro has
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 09:49, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:40:07AM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
Pity there's nobody on the list living in Napa serving the wine
industry
Or Oregon, for those of us who avoid sending money to California.
I'm coming up with another
begin Karsten M. Self quotation:
I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_
distro has 100+ post flamewars on beer?
Actually, the amazing thing is that it hasn't been a flamewar at all,
aside from a few mildly inflammatory remarks from Australians and
Canadians (two
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
Actually, the amazing thing is that it hasn't been a flamewar at all,
aside from a few mildly inflammatory remarks from Australians and
Canadians (two countries whose inhabitants are well-known for their
inferiority complexes).
If you want to spend less than US $30, then unless you find a real
bargain somewhere, you're stuck with California sparkling wines, in
which case Domain Chandon is a reasonable choice.
We've sampled Gloria Ferrer Fridays at work, it's passable dry
bubbly. I should ask around for some
On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 04:46:29AM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
[snip]
To make an observation, Americans have this bizarre superiority complex.
Oregonians, and to a lesser degree, Idahoans, tend to look in from the
It's not a bizarre superiority
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 01:00:51PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
Not only that, nobody even DARED to post complaining stay on topic,
please !... :)
My only real disappointment is the subject line I put on when the topic
changed didn't stick...
apt-get install debian-beer
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On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:12:37AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
It's not a bizarre superiority complex. May not be valid,
but certainly not bizarre. I can list 1,000 US accomplish-
ments, not the least of which is making sure that Aussies aren't
not speaking Japanese, and the Brits now
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 12:33:38PM -0700, Craig Dickson wrote:
Guinness's cans even have a little gadget inside to pump up the head as
you pour it out.
Interesting... are there any good pictures on the web of a Guinness can
disected? My roommates aren't into Guinness (preferring Moosehead,
Gary Turner wrote:
Guiness absolutely sets the standard, especially if you can find it on
tap and nitrogen charged. I've been favorably impressed by some other
Irish beers (but not recently nor often enough to name names).
...But with Guiness you need to use a fork to drink your beer!
On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 13:06, Rich Puhek wrote:
Gary Turner wrote:
[snip]
German imports to the US are good to very good for the most part.
Haven't found an outstanding brew (yet).
German beer doesn't really count if it leaves the country. Gotta try one
of the local brews,
Rich Puhek writes:
Sam Adams has some good stuff. Leinenkeugel (sp?) from Wisconsin is
pretty good too.
Leinenkugel's.
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Rich Puhek writes:
Sam Adams has some good stuff. Leinenkeugel (sp?) from Wisconsin is
pretty good too.
Leinenkugel's.
Leinenkugel's, schmeinenkugels!! When woody emerges, what's the best
champagne?
Glyn
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begin Ron Johnson quotation:
Czech beers are tops. Staropraman 12 is the uber-beer. Too
bad it's not available stateside. The pasteurization and
travel across the pond in big, hot cargo ships would probably
kill the taste...
That may explain why I have not been particularly impressed
Glyn Millington wrote:
When woody emerges, what's the best champagne?
By definition, one from Champagne, France -- anything else is not
champagne, only sparkling wine (not that that can't be good; I'm just
being picky about the nomenclature -- then again, I've yet to find a
sparkling wine to
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