Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list)

On 10 May 2016 at 21:03, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Tuesday 10 May 2016 19:42:41 Michael Fothergill wrote: > > On 10 May 2016 at 19:18, wrote: > > > > Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-30 12:08 (UTC-0700): > > > > >Someone said that I need to use a

Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list)

On Tuesday 10 May 2016 19:42:41 Michael Fothergill wrote: > On 10 May 2016 at 19:18, wrote: > > > Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-30 12:08 (UTC-0700): > > > >Someone said that I need to use a pastebin for images. I've never used > > > >one before so another Fxx

Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list)

On 10 May 2016 at 19:18, wrote: > > Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-30 12:08 (UTC-0700): > > > > >Someone said that I need to use a pastebin for images. I've never used > > >one before so another Fxx Learning Experience. > > No, it's not necessary, in fact its

Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list)

> Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-30 12:08 (UTC-0700): > > >Someone said that I need to use a pastebin for images. I've never used > >one before so another Fxx Learning Experience. No, it's not necessary, in fact its preferable to not use pastebin. There's been other threads where this has

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Mon 02 May 2016 at 12:06:04 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 02 May 2016 11:51:46 Brian wrote: > > I don't know where you (or anyone else) gets the idea there is a 10K > > maximum size limit on attachments in mails sent to -user. > > Here is where I (recently) got it - the CoC just says

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On Monday 02 May 2016 11:51:46 Brian wrote: > I don't know where you (or anyone else) gets the idea there is a 10K > maximum size limit on attachments in mails sent to -user. Here is where I (recently) got it - the CoC just says "not large". :-/ -- "Do

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Sun 01 May 2016 at 18:57:32 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > B. I see no reason to go further with this since everything has been beaten > into the ground and all of my problems have been fixed. I saw no useful > information in the majordomo returned message (after I found it in the aol > spam

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On Monday 02 May 2016 02:57:32 Gary Roach wrote: > > Lisi > > Lesi Accuracy is obviously not something you bother with. Lisi

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 05/01/2016 10:36 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 17:45:44 Gary Roach wrote: On 05/01/2016 04:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:01:12 Gary Roach wrote: On 04/30/2016 03:23 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 13:00:55 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I may have found

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Sunday 01 May 2016 17:45:44 Gary Roach wrote: > On 05/01/2016 04:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:01:12 Gary Roach wrote: > >> On 04/30/2016 03:23 PM, Brian wrote: > >>> On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 13:00:55 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I may have found the problem. When the

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 05/01/2016 04:22 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:01:12 Gary Roach wrote: On 04/30/2016 03:23 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 13:00:55 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I may have found the problem. When the majordomo message didn't return I start digging into aol. I found the

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On Sunday 01 May 2016 02:01:12 Gary Roach wrote: > On 04/30/2016 03:23 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 13:00:55 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > >> I may have found the problem. When the majordomo message didn't return I > >> start digging into aol. I found the return message in the Spam bin.

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On 04/30/2016 03:23 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 13:00:55 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I may have found the problem. When the majordomo message didn't return I start digging into aol. I found the return message in the Spam bin. I've turned the feature off and hope that fixes the problem.

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Lisi writes: > I use a lot of Gmail facilities - just not their SMTP server, nor > their web interface!! I didn't know Gmail offered anything but email services. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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On Saturday 30 April 2016 23:59:42 Mike McGinn wrote: > I bcc all mail to > myself and always get a copy. I said there had to be other simple solutions - I like that one! (Though mine makes better allowance for my appalling memory. :-/ ) Lisi

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On 04/30/2016 06:05 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: >> If, like you. you like a complicated life. As I said, I achieve the >> effect just by posting through my ISP's SMTP server. > > In other words, you avoid Gmail problems by not using Gmail. Sensible > solution and it's what I do as

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Gary writes: > All I want is a pop server and an smtp connection that stays out of my > hair. Newsguy will sell you that for $29/year. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

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On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 13:00:55 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I may have found the problem. When the majordomo message didn't return I > start digging into aol. I found the return message in the Spam bin. I've > turned the feature off and hope that fixes the problem. All I want is a pop > server and

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Lisi writes: > If, like you. you like a complicated life. As I said, I achieve the > effect just by posting through my ISP's SMTP server. In other words, you avoid Gmail problems by not using Gmail. Sensible solution and it's what I do as well, but people who for some reason must use Gmail need

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 30 April 2016 17:26:48 Gene Heskett wrote: > Because gmail see's the echo from the list, going back to the address > that it was posted from, as a duplicate, and deletes it.  So you see the > post, confirming it got there by seeing it on the address you didn't > post it from. If, like

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 07:53:47PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 29 April 2016 18:33:07 Stephen Allen wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:33:33PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 04/30/2016 07:35 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 30 April 2016 15:13:06 Brian wrote: On Fri 29 Apr 2016 at 17:17:11 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 04/29/2016 03:45 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: address. But I don't think that aol or my

Re: pastebinning (was: Posts don't show on list)

Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-30 12:08 (UTC-0700): Someone said that I need to use a pastebin for images. I've never used one before so another Fxx Learning Experience. Not a big deal. Just go there, and paste in whatever it was you would have attached to or pasted into your email. A

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 12:08:06 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > Someone said that I need to use a pastebin for images. I've never used one > before so another Fxx Learning Experience. The 'u', 'c', 'k', 'i', 'n' and 'g' keys on your keyboard are not working. A separate thread to deal with the

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Sat 30 Apr 2016 at 15:35:15 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 15:13:06 Brian wrote: > > It needn't be the case, but it looks like gary719_li...@verizon.net is > > subscribed to the list (garyro...@verizon.net is not a subscriber). Just > > as a check: send a mail to > > > >

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On 04/30/2016 07:35 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 30 April 2016 15:13:06 Brian wrote: On Fri 29 Apr 2016 at 17:17:11 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 04/29/2016 03:45 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: address. But I don't think that aol or my

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 30 April 2016 09:29:03 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 13:10:56 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 02:39:38 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 00:53:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > With > > > > gmail, the only practical way to do that is to

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 30 April 2016 15:13:06 Brian wrote: > On Fri 29 Apr 2016 at 17:17:11 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > On 04/29/2016 03:45 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > >On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > >>address. But I don't think that aol or my mail client is the problem > >

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Fri 29 Apr 2016 at 17:17:11 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > On 04/29/2016 03:45 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > >On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > >>address. But I don't think that aol or my mail client is the problem here. I > >>have mailing lists that are hosted by

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 30 April 2016 13:10:56 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 02:39:38 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 30 April 2016 00:53:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > With > > > gmail, the only practical way to do that is to subscribe using two > > > different names, and always send to

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 30 April 2016 02:39:38 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 30 April 2016 00:53:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > > With > > gmail, the only practical way to do that is to subscribe using two > > different names, and always send to only one, but you will then get > > the list echo back on the 2nd

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 4/29/2016 7:17 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Thanks for the info. Presently, none of my posts show up in the thread making it difficult, sometimes, to figure out what is going on. if now one replies, I have no idea if the message got through (redundant statement I know). See

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 30 April 2016 00:53:47 Gene Heskett wrote: > With > gmail, the only practical way to do that is to subscribe using two > different names, and always send to only one, but you will then get the > list echo back on the 2nd account.  Its a PITA with gmail, but its the > only way I know of

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On Friday 29 April 2016 23:20:14 Gary Roach wrote: > >> I'm glad you thing this is a minor problem. Just put out a critical > >> question, get no answer and not know whether its due to the message > >> not getting through or just no interest. It drives me nuts. Things > >> are inconsistent as

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 04/29/2016 03:45 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: address. But I don't think that aol or my mail client is the problem here. I have mailing lists that are hosted by GoogleGroups and by Sourceforge that work fine. Does any one know who hosts

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Friday 29 April 2016 18:33:07 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:33:33PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it came

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Fri 29 Apr 2016 at 15:20:14 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: > On 04/22/2016 04:16 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 15:22:11 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: > >>On 04/22/2016 06:02 AM, Mimiko wrote: > >>>On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: > It's because you use gmail and that has a

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > Does any one know who hosts this list. It doesn't have any info > at the bottom of the page like the others do. There used to be information at the bottom of the emails but it was moved to the headers because it broke digital

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 03:20:14PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > address. But I don't think that aol or my mail client is the problem here. I > have mailing lists that are hosted by GoogleGroups and by Sourceforge that > work fine. Does any one know who hosts this list. It doesn't have any info > at

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 04/22/2016 04:16 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 15:22:11 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: On 04/22/2016 06:02 AM, Mimiko wrote: On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn off that deliberately hides your own messages.

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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 06:33:33PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it came right back. It shows as being 'Read', but it's there. > > > > > > >

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On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Yes, it came right back. It shows as being 'Read', but it's there. Marc You're reading the 'All Mail' Gmail directory that's why. Copies don't come back to one's regular inbox, but

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On 04/28/2016 09:36 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 06:01:54PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Yes, it came right back. It shows as being 'Read', but it's there. Marc

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 06:01:54PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yes, it came right back. It shows as being 'Read', but it's there. > > > > > > > > > Marc > > You're

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On 04/27/2016 04:21 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: Yes, it came right back. It shows as being 'Read', but it's there. Marc You're reading the 'All Mail' Gmail directory that's why. Copies don't come back to one's regular inbox, but

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:26:36PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Yes, it came right back. It shows as being 'Read', but it's there. > > > Marc You're reading the 'All Mail' Gmail directory that's why. Copies don't come back to one's regular inbox, but will be in the all mail directory if my

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 04/26/2016 11:24 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 04/22/2016 06:20 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : If the list software did this modification for _all_ messages, not just ones from Gmail addresses, I don't see how it would break threading It

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 04/22/2016 06:20 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : If the list software did this modification for _all_ messages, not just ones from Gmail addresses, I don't see how it would break threading It breaks it for the *senders*: they would have the

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Saturday 23 April 2016 07:41:48 cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 05:11:07AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > That's a frequently reported "feature" of gmail. > > > Personally I suspect "free" service isn't

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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:35:31PM +0100, Joe wrote: > Upload to a website, either your own or a public one. I don't use > a public one, so I have no recommendation, but no doubt others will. > > It is a courtesy in any case, in any list or group, as some > subscribers may have limited Internet

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[Please don't top post] On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:24:26PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no rejection > notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not found

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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 05:11:07AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > That's a frequently reported "feature" of gmail. > > Personally I suspect "free" service isn't worth what you pay for it. > > I'm very happy using paid ($) mail and news

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On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 02:23:46PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:12:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > [...] > > > In this case, what appears to happen is that Gmail assumes that > > Message-ID is unique, and consequently that it only needs to keep one > > copy of

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On 23/04/2016 3:39 AM, John Hasler wrote: > David writes: >> I only use my ISP sending from home, and never for receiving mail. > > I pay my ISP to connect me to the Net. They do a pretty good job of > that. I pay Newsguy to handle email for me. They do an excellent job. > I pay Gandi to

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 22/04/2016 11:02 PM, Mimiko wrote: > On 22.04.2016 11:59, Gene Heskett wrote: >> What you Mimiko, should be doing is using your own ISP's mail server, >> which on this mailing list I am, by setting up your own email agent. >> There are quite a few available for linux. > > I don't want to use

Re: Posts don't show on list

Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-22 12:24 (UTC-0700): Gary Roach wrote: For the last several weeks my posts to this site have not been showing up. I am not sure whether they are getting through or not. Someone respond to the message just to show me that my postings are getting through.

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On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 15:22:11 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: > On 04/22/2016 06:02 AM, Mimiko wrote: > >On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: > >>It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn > >>off that deliberately hides your own messages. > > > >On 22.04.2016 09:55, Brad

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On Friday 22 April 2016 20:20:50 Brian wrote: > It's a waste of time. Even if you conclusively demonstrated the offending > header was Message-Id: (and it almost certainly is a major player) what > would you do? Better is to avoid providers who think it fine to mess with > your mail. People

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On 2016-04-22 at 15:20, Brian wrote: > On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 18:29:11 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote: >>> I'm talking about what it uses for detecting duplicates so it can >>> discard them >> >> That is worth my while to investigate. I am a

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 04/22/2016 06:02 AM, Mimiko wrote: On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn off that deliberately hides your own messages. On 22.04.2016 09:55, Brad Rogers wrote: > Like I said to Michael; gmail. > > I find it surprising, to

Re: Posts don't show on list

On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 12:24:26 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no > rejection notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not > found any information that would

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On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 12:24:26 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an You mean that all those posts from months ago are now available to you? > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no rejection > notice. I have

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:24:26 -0700 Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no > rejection notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not found >

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OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no rejection notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not found any information that would exclude attachments. Since I have not found a way to embed a

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On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 18:29:11 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote: > > I'm talking about what it uses > > for detecting duplicates so it can discard them > > That is worth my while to investigate. I am a bit pushed at the moment, but > will report

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On Thu 21 Apr 2016 at 19:18:36 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the > problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a > return copy of our posts Your last posts to the list were on or about the 9th and 18th

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David writes: > I only use my ISP sending from home, and never for receiving mail. I pay my ISP to connect me to the Net. They do a pretty good job of that. I pay Newsguy to handle email for me. They do an excellent job. I pay Gandi to host my Web sites. They do an excellent job. Do you see

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On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote: > I'm talking about what it uses > for detecting duplicates so it can discard them That is worth my while to investigate. I am a bit pushed at the moment, but will report back. Lisi

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On 2016-04-22 at 12:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 13:56:49 The Wanderer wrote: >> Interesting. Do you have any evidence for the idea that it uses >> more than just Message-ID? I can't prove that it doesn't, but I've >> never seen anything that I recall to indicate that it does.

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On Friday 22 April 2016 14:20:18 Nicolas George wrote: > I suspect the misfeature belongs in gmail's web interface, > actually, and the mails are really present in the archive and accessible > through IMAP. Possibly. I avoid all I care about (I use threading) by using an email client, POP3

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On Friday 22 April 2016 13:56:49 The Wanderer wrote: > Interesting. Do you have any evidence for the idea that it uses more > than just Message-ID? I can't prove that it doesn't, but I've never seen > anything that I recall to indicate that it does. It doesn't use MORE than the message ID. It

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On Friday 22 April 2016 14:02:11 Mimiko wrote: > I don't want to use my ISP's mail account. Its limited. It can be > blocked. I can switch to another ISP. So you switch your SMTP sever. What is the problem??? Lisi

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On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 05:11:07 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > I have participated in several threads on this list and have > > > asked a few questions on the list. I never see my own

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Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > I'm not sure this would actually manifest the way you're describing it - > but I'm not positive it wouldn't, either, and I don't care to invest the > brainpower in working it out for certain right now. Actually, it is even worse than I

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On 2016-04-22 at 09:20, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : >> If the list software did this modification for _all_ messages, not >> just ones from Gmail addresses, I don't see how it would break >> threading > > It breaks it for the *senders*: they

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Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > If the list software did this modification for _all_ messages, not just > ones from Gmail addresses, I don't see how it would break threading It breaks it for the *senders*: they would have the message in their "sent" archive with the

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On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn off that deliberately hides your own messages. On 22.04.2016 09:55, Brad Rogers wrote: > Like I said to Michael; gmail. > > I find it surprising, to say the least, that, even after all

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On 2016-04-22 at 08:20, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > >> This means that the mailing-list software _could_ technically work >> around this behavior by modifying the Message-ID of the received >> message before it sends that message out to

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:26:33AM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: [...] > Okay, if this is some convoluted thing that Gmail does, then sure, I > couldn't see complicating the Debian server just to overcome this. > However, I think it would be nice

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:12:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: [...] > In this case, what appears to happen is that Gmail assumes that > Message-ID is unique, and consequently that it only needs to keep one > copy of a message with any given

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Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > This means that the mailing-list software _could_ technically work > around this behavior by modifying the Message-ID of the received message > before it sends that message out to list members. > > That strikes me as a dreadful idea from

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On 2016-04-22 at 07:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 07:25:25AM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: > >> On 04/22/2016 02:55 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> I find it surprising, to say the least, that, even after all this >>> time, some people still do not know that gmail does not

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 07:25:25AM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: > > On 04/22/2016 02:55 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:57:51 +0300 > >Mimiko wrote: > > > >Hello Mimiko, > > > >>I've never seen my own posts nor

Re: Posts don't show on list

On 4/22/2016 4:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected.

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On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > >> Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. > >> Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your > >> reply.

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On Friday 22 April 2016 01:57:51 Mimiko wrote: > On 22.04.2016 07:49, Michael Milliman wrote: > > On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > >> Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. > >> Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. > >> Normally we do

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On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a return copy of our posts I have participated in several

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 07:55:59AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:57:51 +0300 > Mimiko wrote: > > Hello Mimiko, > > >I've never seen my own posts nor in this list, nor in other lists > > Like I said to

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On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:57:51 +0300 Mimiko wrote: Hello Mimiko, >I've never seen my own posts nor in this list, nor in other lists Like I said to Michael; gmail. I find it surprising, to say the least, that, even after all this time, some people still do not know that gmail

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On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 08:57 +0300, Mimiko wrote: > I've never seen my own posts nor in this list, nor in other lists. This > is very bad, as there are questions from me which never been asked. And > I don't know if this is due to the fact that my post didn't get to list, > or nobody have an

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On 22.04.2016 07:49, Michael Milliman wrote: On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a return copy of our posts I have participated in several

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On Thu, 21 Apr 2016 23:49:13 -0500 Michael Milliman wrote: Hello Michael, > I never see my own posts, but as I do see the Because you use gmail. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent"

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On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a return copy of our posts I have participated in several threads on this list and have asked a few

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Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a return copy of our posts Gary R. On 04/21/2016 06:04 PM, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: Yup, we got it. Evidently we don't receive a copy of our own

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Yup, we got it. Evidently we don't receive a copy of our own messages... On Apr 21, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Gary Roach wrote: For the last several weeks my posts to this site have not been showing up. I am not sure whether they are getting through or not. Someone respond

Posts don't show on list

For the last several weeks my posts to this site have not been showing up. I am not sure whether they are getting through or not. Someone respond to the message just to show me that my postings are getting through. Gary R.