Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le quartidi 4 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Chris Bannister a écrit : What file(s) are you talking about here? ~ $ apt-file show -x '^pulseaudio$' | grep '/usr/share/alsa' pulseaudio: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/pulse.conf pulseaudio: /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf You can see that, at the very

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 04:18:32PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Le primidi 1er fructidor, an CCXXIII, Ric Moore a écrit : Pulse generally is a pussycat. It sits on top of alsa and if alsa is broken, pulse is broken. On the other hand, there are situations where ALSA works perfectly and

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-19 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/19/2015 01:31 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:02:55PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: i know what audio device i should be selecting, i have it set to default in the ~/.asoundrc file and icweweasel just doesn't do

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 17 August 2015 16:40:04 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 16:31:04 doug wrote: On 08/17/2015 11:00 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 15:49:49 doug wrote: On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-19 Thread David Wright
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Monday 17 August 2015 16:40:04 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 16:31:04 doug wrote: Well, I didn't know about dpms, but now I have looked at the man page, it is still not clear to me. I don't use a screen saver. If I enter xset

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-19 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:31:05 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: i know what audio device i should be selecting, i have it set to default in the ~/.asoundrc file and icweweasel just doesn't do anything. This half-answers my question in the other mail -- but still give alsamixer a spin:

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread Mart van de Wege
Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com writes: Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:16:55 +0200 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org [..] You can't install gnome without the pulseaudio libraries, but it runs perfectly fine without the daemon. On Debian? $ aptitude why gnome-core pulseaudio p  

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread briand
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:57:43 -0400 Edward Lukacs lukac...@verizon.net wrote: robust software. Linux has been amazingly good for most of its life but over the last few years it has begun to show serious signs of bloating. I mean the sort of thing that Detroit did when they put tail-fins on

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:02:55PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 08:57:43 -0400 Edward Lukacs lukac...@verizon.net wrote: robust software. Linux has been amazingly good for most of its life but over the last few years

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread Edward Lukacs
I am far from a guru, but I am a twenty-one year Linux user since Kernel 0.91. Pulse audio has been, at least since Kernel 3.0, a pain in my side. I currently run Jessie 8.0 on both my Compaq desktop and my HP laptop (64 bit AMD Sempron and Turion x2 respectively,) On both systems Pulseaudio

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/18/2015 08:57 AM, Edward Lukacs wrote: My own opinion, for what it's worth, is to keep your system simple, stupid, as the saying goes. I used to feel as you do, and ranted on pulse whenever the opportunity arose. But, that was years ago. Pulse is far more simple to use, when it comes

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/18/2015 08:57 AM, Edward Lukacs wrote: it took me a half hour to totally eliminate it and set up a complete alsa installation which is utterly reliable. I will not go back, even if pulseaudio is repaired and made less of a system hog. I don't get this. You got alsa working complete

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/17/2015 10:10 PM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:25:24 +0200 Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:37:37 -0700 From: bri...@aracnet.com [..snip list of PA inadequacies..] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-18 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 1er fructidor, an CCXXIII, Ric Moore a écrit : Pulse generally is a pussycat. It sits on top of alsa and if alsa is broken, pulse is broken. On the other hand, there are situations where ALSA works perfectly and just INSTALLING the pulseaudio package would break it, even if it was

RE: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Arno Schuring
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:16:55 +0200 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org [..] You can't install gnome without the pulseaudio libraries, but it runs perfectly fine without the daemon. On Debian? $ aptitude why gnome-core pulseaudio p   gnome-core Depends pulseaudio This to me suggests that

RE: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Arno Schuring
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:37:37 -0700 From: bri...@aracnet.com [..snip list of PA inadequacies..] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio is a good idea. It's a good thing you're asking for opinions, because that's what you're gonna get. A lot of it, probably

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread briand
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:25:24 +0200 Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com wrote: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:37:37 -0700 From: bri...@aracnet.com [..snip list of PA inadequacies..] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio is a good idea. It's a good

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Arno Schuring (aelschur...@hotmail.com): Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:16:55 +0200 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org [..] You can't install gnome without the pulseaudio libraries, but it runs perfectly fine without the daemon. On Debian? $ aptitude why gnome-core pulseaudio

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread CaT
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 07:10:34PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: I was just wondering if I _really_ needed it. You don't -really- need it. I haven't seen it bring anything of worth to me yet other than bluetooth audio. If it wasn't for that I'd ditch it as it just adds complexity. Since

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread doark
BTW: if you're going to watch a long video, you may want to get a mouse jiggler, so the picture doesn't go away after a few minutes. Why all this technical mumbo jumbo? Mouse jiggler indeed! Just use the word cat :) I believe that: xset s off is what your looking for. Of course, different DEs

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread doug
On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: [...] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio is a good idea. Be warned that this has been a long

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread doug
On 08/17/2015 11:00 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 15:49:49 doug wrote: On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: [...] so soliciting opinions on whether

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/17/2015 12:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 11:35:36 Ric Moore wrote: Welcome back, Ric. ;) It's good to be alive! I wound up with a quad bypass. It was like getting fsck AND a re-boot. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Aug 2015 at 13:18:35 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 08/17/2015 12:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 11:35:36 Ric Moore wrote: Welcome back, Ric. ;) It's good to be alive! I wound up with a quad bypass. It was like getting fsck AND a re-boot. :) Ric Best wishes!

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 17 August 2015 15:49:49 doug wrote: On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: [...] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 17 August 2015 11:35:36 Ric Moore wrote: Welcome back, Ric. ;) On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: [...] so soliciting opinions on whether or

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: [...] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio is a good idea. Be warned that this has been a long

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 17 August 2015 16:31:04 doug wrote: On 08/17/2015 11:00 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 17 August 2015 15:49:49 doug wrote: On 08/17/2015 02:10 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700,

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread Mart van de Wege
Arno Schuring aelschur...@hotmail.com writes: Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 13:37:37 -0700 From: bri...@aracnet.com [..snip list of PA inadequacies..] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio is a good idea. It's a good thing you're asking for opinions, because

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:37:37PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: [...] so soliciting opinions on whether or not getting rid of pulse audio is a good idea. Be warned that this has been a long standing hot-button issue. You might get very

Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?

2015-08-16 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: first there was the obsure changes to the pulse audio config that so that my USB speakers would be made default. then there was the fact that it automatically idled my USB speakers, so i had to disable that feature. now on resuming from