Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On 5/15/24 10:50, Nicolas George wrote: Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely accepted netiquette set of standards. You can add the “Re: ” to that list. It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing else.

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread James H. H. Lampert
of them. . . . Actually, it isn't necessarily the user's fault. Thanks to the "business standard," (and think about the initials) of top-posting over the complete, unpared quote of the entire thread, there are an awful lot of email readers (and especially webmail interfaces) that make it

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Henning Follmann
Since my request started this offtopic subthread I hope I can put it to rest. Yes I requested to not toppost. I asked politely, and I added pertinent response on topic. I do not claim to be right or wrong about this. I prefer interleaved style for reason. Everyone on this list heard all arguments

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): > PS Afterthought is that email signatures are another of that widely > accepted netiquette set of standards. You can add the “Re: ” to that list. It is the sequence of four octets 0x52, 0x65, 0x3a, 0x20, and nothing else. The MUAs who write “RE: ” are wrong.

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread gene heskett
On 5/15/24 10:06, Nicolas George wrote: Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense to me. Git

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 09:46:08AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the > magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to > both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense > to me. > > PS

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
-Original Message- From: Greg Wooledge To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting Date: 05/14/24 13:41:17 On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Nicolas George
Cindy Sue Causey (12024-05-15): > Best as I was able to discern from the Net [0], 72 characters is the > magic number for line length because 4 extra characters are added to > both ends when e.g. git processes submissions. Makes good common sense > to me. Git is an order of magnitude younger than

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-15 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
-Original Message- From: gene heskett To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting Date: 05/14/24 10:54:50 On 5/14/24 10:09, Richard wrote: Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing

Markup in mail messages (was: Re: OT: Top Posting)

2024-05-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/05/2024 02:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. [...] The only sensible interpretation I can come up with for why these asterisks were added is that they're being placed

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Larry Martell
>>> >>> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett >>> > mailto:loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>>: >>> > >>> > Hi Richard, >>> > >>> > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: >>>

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
On Tue, 14 May 2024, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: >> don't y'all have any thing better to do > > You must be new here. sorta i've only been using versions of linux since the early 90's :) downloaded it from an archie

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > don't y'all have any thing better to do You must be new here. Get used to reading with a "mark thread read" key in your MUA of choice, is my best advice. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > In this particular instance, we've got a person from the second > culture who seems to have no idea that other cultures exist, or that > a mailing list might not adhere to their own expectations. This > person is acting belligerantly, and will not listen to gentle >

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 08:16:20PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Messages in Markdown in the Windows world? I have never seen it. I can't be sure where they're coming from exactly, but every once in a while I see messages on debian-user, bug-bash or help-bash which have extra asterisk characters

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Jeffrey Walton
ts cannot do that, its time to switch to an agent >> that can. There are dozens of them. >> >> > Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett >> > mailto:loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>>: >> > >> > Hi Richard, >&g

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
the software in between cannot take, i.e. most of it. And the “(s)” tells us which culture is more efficient and why. The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, and inline quoting is nigh impossib

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 05:01:31PM +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > how many times has this top post crap been dug up > don't y'all have any thing better to do > i know > how about some real debian issues > Hi, Have a quick look at the Debian-user FAQ posted each month and the Debian

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Nicolas George
t. And the “(s)” tells us which culture is more efficient and why. > The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products > in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, > and inline quoting is nigh impossible. Messages are often sent in ei

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 5/14/24 10:41 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: We have a clash of two cultures here. More than just *nix vs. M$. In business communications by email, the norm is to quote the *entire* thread, every time, without paring anything down, purely for the sake of CYA. As such, top-posting is the only

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
on a terminal, or a terminal emulator. Characters are displayed in a fixed-width font. ASCII art is possible, albeit frowned upon as juvenile. The second culture are Windows users who grew up with Microsoft products in their school or workplace. In this culture, top-posting is the norm, and inli

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread fxkl47BF
how many times has this top post crap been dug up don't y'all have any thing better to do i know how about some real debian issues

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 04:08:19PM +0200, Richard wrote: > Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not > standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a > setting. Most people prefer inline quoting around here (I know I do). That's because

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
> > Hi Richard, > > > > Richard mailto:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > > > > > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being > replied > > > to) is literally industry standard behavior. > >

Re: OT: Top Posting

2024-05-14 Thread gene heskett
:rrosn...@gmail.com>> writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply t

Re: OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread Richard
Just because something isn't an official ISO standard doesn't mean it's not standard behavior. And how it relates to this mailing list? It's called a setting. Am Di., 14. Mai 2024 um 15:57 Uhr schrieb Loris Bennett < loris.benn...@fu-berlin.de>: > Hi Richard, > > Richard wri

OT: Top Posting (was: Dovecot correct ownership for logs)

2024-05-14 Thread Loris Bennett
Hi Richard, Richard writes: > "Top posting" (writing the answer above the text that's being replied > to) is literally industry standard behavior. Can you provide a link to the standard you are referring to? Assuming such a standard exists, how would it apply to this newsg

Re: OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

2023-06-23 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 04:24:47PM -0700, Manphiz wrote: > Personally I don't have a strong preference either way, but would like > to hear more opinions on this. The complaint about a top-posted forwarded message just because it had a contextual hint at the top, seemed excessive to me. I

OT: Forwarding and top posting (was: Re: OT: Pedantic, yet wrong)

2023-06-22 Thread Manphiz
David Christensen writes: > On 6/22/23 03:28, Ottavio Caruso wrote: >> Am 21/06/2023 um 15:46 schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > >>> ... top posting ... > >> ... When the message is forwarded ("Weitergeleitet", ... you have no >> other choice

Re: Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-08-30 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:14:16 -0700 Charlie Gibbs wrote: > If someone can't be bothered to take the time to write a readable > message, I can't be bothered to take the time to decipher it. On the other tentacle, this sort of thing is usually the province of newbies. I think it would help to

Re: Top-posting

2020-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
Charlie Gibbs composed on 2020-08-30 09:14 (UTC-0700): > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: >> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + Andy Smith wrote: >>> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >>> difficult to read your

Top-posting (was Re: how to test disk for bad sector)

2020-08-30 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 16:30:01 +0200 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:02:48 + > Andy Smith wrote: > >> Between your top posting and the HTML mails, I find it very >> difficult to read your emails so I mostly haven't bothered. > > Hear, hear. My se

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-21 Thread Felix Perez
gt;> >> otros de otra. > >> >> > >> > No, no es la forma natural ¿o tú respondes antes que te hagan una > >> > pregunta? ¿o respondes antes que te hablen? > >> > > >> > Saludos. > >> > > >> > >

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread Felix Perez
blen? > > > > Saludos. > > > > > Lo concidero la forma natural porque es una respuesta a algo ya leido, > muy diferete a la cominicación hablada, imagina hablando antes de > respoder repetir todo lo ya dicho > La verdad no se te entiende mucho, pero no es natural

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread juan
El 18/9/19 a las 18:10, Felix Perez escribió: El mié., 21 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 13:55, juan (juansanti...@riseup.net) escribió: No sabía que en esta lista hay un regla anti top-postng por eso lo hacía siempre, para mi es la forma natural de responder para mi es muy fácil seguir un hilo si

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread Felix Perez
cesibilidad. > Tal y como cuando un usuario señala que se le envía copia al privado, el usuario podría solicitar que se le conteste con top posting. Saludos. > Yo, personalmente, soy editor de la Wiki Debian; tengo los permisos > necesarios; cosa que no es difícil de hacer, pero tambi

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-18 Thread Felix Perez
El mié., 21 de ago. de 2019 a la(s) 13:55, juan (juansanti...@riseup.net) escribió: > > No sabía que en esta lista hay un regla anti top-postng por eso lo hacía > siempre, para mi es la forma natural de responder para mi es muy fácil seguir > un hilo si se que tengo que hacerlo de abajo a

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-10 Thread Jaime Casanova
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 6:40 PM Jaime Casanova wrote: > > Sin embargo, el hacerlo así no es una cuestión de debian por ejemplo > en el rfc 1855 (https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt) se incluye este > párrafo: > """ > - Be brief without being overly terse. When replying to a message, >

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-10 Thread Jaime Casanova
, aunque así lo parece en realidad Debian como muchos otros proyectos de software libre es una *meritocracia*. > > Siguiendo esta línea de razonamiento pongo sobre la mesa la siguiente > discusión: > > La regla de Top Posting y Bottom-Posting fue establecida en un tiempo en que >

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-09-06 Thread Abogado
> Hola A mi personalmente me da lo mismo Top-posting o Bottom Posting. Lo que creo es que las normas se pueden modificar, no estamos en una dictadura,pero esa modificación debe ser por acuerdo entre todos y que esa norma acordada la cumplamos todos, y no como hasta ahora que unos hacen t

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-29 Thread Paynalton
El jue., 22 ago. 2019 a las 6:17, Debian () escribió: > Sí. > Nosotros, los propios usuarios, con un acuerdo, podemos modificar las > normas. > Son normas de convivencia, no leyes escritas en piedra bajadas desde lo > alto. > > Lo que habla Fran, invidente, es algo que debe incorporarse en las >

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-22 Thread Debian
Sí. Nosotros, los propios usuarios, con un acuerdo, podemos modificar las normas. Son normas de convivencia, no leyes escritas en piedra bajadas desde lo alto. Lo que habla Fran, invidente, es algo que debe incorporarse en las normas. No se me había pasado siquiera por la mente. Podemos

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Debian Forever
:50, Fran Torres escribió: > > Buenas, > > yo siempre suelo hacer incapié en la accesibilidad (como usuario > invidente de debian). De hecho, si no me equivoco, en la lista > debian-accessibility (también estoy en ella) se utiliza mucho el > top-posting. Por qué? > Por que

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread juan
la lista debian-accessibility (también estoy en ella) se utiliza mucho el top-posting. Por qué? Por que con lectores de pantalla, es mucho más sencillo, rápido y eficiente, leer la última respuesta como la primera. la penúltima como la segunda y así sucesivamente. Es decir, top-posting. A demás, si

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Fran Torres
Buenas, yo siempre suelo hacer incapié en la accesibilidad (como usuario invidente de debian). De hecho, si no me equivoco, en la lista debian-accessibility (también estoy en ella) se utiliza mucho el top-posting. Por qué? Por que con lectores de pantalla, es mucho más sencillo, rápido y

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Debian
"Asunto", agregando al final la palabra "solucionado", así: Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting - [SOLUCIONADO] |Y la respuesta directa a un ||usuario||creo que la mayoría la ||consideramos||improcedente, ||creo que mailman pude bloquear esta posibilidad siempre que los corr

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread juan
|No sabía que en esta lista hay un regla anti top-postng por eso lo hacía siempre, para mi es la forma natural de responder para mi es muy fácil seguir un hilo si se que tengo que hacerlo de abajo a arriba, pero lo más importante es que nos pongamos de acuerdo, ya que el verdadero desbarajuste

Re: OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Debian
Top Posting y Bottom-Posting fue establecida en un tiempo en que la mayoría de los usuarios Debian usábamos clientes sólo texto por su versatilidad, rapidez y muchas otras cosas que en su tiempo superaban a cualquier cliente gráfico. Sin embargo a más de una década desde entonces, además del

OT Top-posting y Bottom Posting

2019-08-21 Thread Paynalton
mayor base tecnológica de nuestros tiempos, se ha convertido en un ejemplo de lo que una organización democrática bien organizada puede lograr. Siguiendo esta línea de razonamiento pongo sobre la mesa la siguiente discusión: La regla de Top Posting y Bottom-Posting fue establecida en un tiempo en

Re: (OT) Top Posting (was Re: Gimp Babl too old)

2018-09-17 Thread Ben Finney
Kenneth Parker writes: > I have a special issue: Using Gmail on a Phone or Tablet (I have > both). Both of those devices lack a proper keyboard. That makes them unsuitable for composing anything but very short messages, and wholly unsuitable for editing text. > Seriously, how do others of you

Re: (OT) Top Posting (was Re: Gimp Babl too old)

2018-09-14 Thread Anders Andersson
computer. Using an inferior tool is no excuse to inconvenience others. My pet peeve here is when people try to use the Stack Exchange app or whatever, and excuse the lousy formatting on "I'm on the phone", but thanks for pointing out another one: gmail top posting! It's bad enough in an a

(OT) Top Posting (was Re: Gimp Babl too old)

2018-09-13 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 10:07 PM Ric Moore wrote: > > > > Same reason some people top post. They just ignore the conventions. > I have a special issue: Using Gmail on a Phone or Tablet (I have both). I have yet to find a Straightforward way to Snip lots of lines, using the Android App.

Re: [OT] top-posting (was: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation)

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
? ;-3) Only if the situation calls for it. This one did :) And the best place for a friendly advice about top-posting is at the top. Reco

Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
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Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Joe
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:08:41 +1100 David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2013 10:31, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. When you're curious about anything, use a search engine, like I used to find

Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Kelly, On a related note, something is wrong with your MUA and quoting. Here's a section of the quoting from your last message, with an additional layer of quoting applied, and trimmed to 20 characters (to avoid further wrapping issues): I'm just curious so upset about top p mind, as

Re: Google other web mail (was Re: top posting)

2013-11-21 Thread Chris Davies
David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: GMail Yahoo Mail both support encrypted POP3 IMAP [...] I don't have to look at their ads since I'm not using their web interface [...] How long do you think it's going to be before they start inserting ads into the message body then? (And/or offering a

top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Brad Alexander
I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through messages that they have already read. I know that I don't. If they are commenting inline, that is fine, but I think

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Wiseman
The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree with you, and for years read my email in reverse chronological order precisely so that I could save time

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree with you, and for years

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread David Guntner
Brad Alexander grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through messages that they have already read. I know that I don't

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Ash Narayanan
to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree with you, and for years read my email in reverse chronological order precisely so that I could save time getting

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread David
On 21 November 2013 10:31, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. When you're curious about anything, use a search engine, like I used to find this for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Especially

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). ​snip​ On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Doug
On 11/20/2013 06:31 PM, Brad Alexander wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through messages that they have already read. I know that I don't

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Brad Alexander
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM, David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: Brad Alexander grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through

Google other web mail (was Re: top posting)

2013-11-20 Thread David Guntner
Brad Alexander grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Actually, I can see the point of posting inline, however, leave it to google and other mail apps to go and ruin it. In the gmail web interface, when you reply to an email or even a thread, you get the text entry box, with the message you are

[Fwd: [D-community-offtopic] Outrageous sexism - dump questions - carbon copy - ignoring hidden ids - HTML - top posting - brainstorming - etc.]

2012-11-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-community-offtopic] Outrageous sexism - dump questions - carbon copy - ignoring hidden ids - HTML - top posting - brainstorming - etc. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:06:26 +0100 Is there anything people are else allowed on Debian user mailing list, besides dissing people for harmless jokes, breaking

Re: [Fwd: [D-community-offtopic] Outrageous sexism - dump questions - carbon copy - ignoring hidden ids - HTML - top posting - brainstorming - etc.]

2012-11-22 Thread Mike McClain
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:14:19PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: snip All off-topic is caused by people who feel offended by harmless jokes, breaking threads, asking the wrong questions, carbon copy, brainstorming etc., not by the people who make harmless jokes, are breaking threads, asking the

[OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera
Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son claras al respecto: 1- Evitar el uso de HTML 2- Evitar el top-posting 3- Evitar los

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread JAP
Walber Zaldivar Herrera escribió: Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son claras al respecto: 1- Evitar el uso de HTML 2

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Enzo Cappa
On Mar 01 Dic 2009 14:16:16 JAP escribió: Walber Zaldivar Herrera escribió: Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread JAP
Estimados nuevos (o newbies, si prefieren el inglés). Son todos bienvenidos a hacer cualquier tipo de pregunta en esta lista, siempre y cuando vuestras preguntas cumplan estos requisitos: Se note que hayan leído las “netiquettes”, o normas de convivencias. Si no lo hicieron, háganlo en

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera
JAP escribió: Y por si a alguien le queda dudas, http://download.bblug.usla.org.ar/netiquette.png JAP Jajajajajajajajajajajajajaja :) :) :) s...@lu2 Walber -- JHS/o +-===| (o_ //\Linux Registered User V_/_ #480598 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\

¿Qué es top-posting y cross-posting?

2009-03-30 Thread santilin
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Re: ¿Qué es top-posting y cross-posting?

2009-03-30 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
2009/3/30, santilin sa...@gestiong.org: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org wikipedia es tu amiga ;) http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Env

Re: ¿Qué es top-posting y cross-posting?

2009-03-30 Thread Alberto Vicat
santilin escribió: Top-posting es contestar arriba del mensaje respondido en vez de abajo, cosa que hace incómoda la lectura: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting Cross-posting es preguntar lo mismo en varias listas, lo que ocasiona cierta mescolanza cuando alguien responde: http

Re: mutt tip (was ... Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting)

2009-03-29 Thread Christofer C. Bell
2009/3/28 Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:48:10AM EDT, Chris Bannister wrote: I was asking one of the top-posting advocates to elaborate on archaic mail readers .. written in the 1980s .. I believe he wrote.. I would assume he is not using one himself

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Bannister
confusing. :o So in that situation I was happier[2] seeing a silly top posting message. [2] Only because I didn't have to press space a dozen or so times. As you use mutt, 'S' should skip to the end of each section of quoted text, or, if you know there is no interleaved quoting, just press

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:48:26AM EDT, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:11:38PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: Now then.. I have two bottom posters .. and one top poster.. OK. What do I do? Snip out the irrelevant bits. Do you use vim as your editor? If so you can put a

Re: mutt tip (was ... Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting)

2009-03-28 Thread Chris Jones
is using if you put in your .muttrc: I was asking one of the top-posting advocates to elaborate on archaic mail readers .. written in the 1980s .. I believe he wrote.. I would assume he is not using one himself .. but then who knows.. - # What headers are displayed ignore * unignore From

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:04:54PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. No. You obviously should middle post as I have done here: find the median line and insert your comments is the center of it, splitting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:43:28AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. Then, of course, it follows that not posting at all is ideal. I *should* have said: Without triming bottom posting

mutt tip (was ... Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting)

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:08:35PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: What mailer are you referring to? I use mutt and it threads messages reliably, flagging malformed mails that it adds to a thread when it You can see what mailer he is using if you put in your .muttrc: - # What headers are

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 06:11:38PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: Now then.. I have two bottom posters .. and one top poster.. OK. What do I do? Snip out the irrelevant bits. Do you use vim as your editor? If so you can put a number before the 'dd' command: 40dd will delete 40 lines. -- Chris.

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent too much time using Windows. Or who reads

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-03-24 07:06, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40:14AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Bob Cox
top posting message. [2] Only because I didn't have to press space a dozen or so times. As you use mutt, 'S' should skip to the end of each section of quoted text, or, if you know there is no interleaved quoting, just press the 'End' key to go right to the bottom ;-) -- Bob Cox. Stoke

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
in that situation I was happier[2] seeing a silly top posting message. [2] Only because I didn't have to press space a dozen or so times. As you use mutt, 'S' should skip to the end of each section of quoted text, or, if you know there is no interleaved quoting, just press the 'End' key

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-24 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Barclay, Daniel dan...@fgm.com mailto:dan...@fgm.com wrote: Christofer C. Bell wrote: Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 3: Q: Why is top-posting such a bad

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Jesus Arocho
is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent too much time using Windows. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Freedom is not a license for anarchy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 22 March 2009 23:07:29 Dave Patterson wrote: * Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net [2009-03-22 20:34:50 -0500]: That's hyperbole, at the very least. The original Pentium was released on March 22, 1993. 3 1/2 disks had been available for a while. While the first GB disk

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net mailto:ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 2009-03-22 11:45, Chris Bannister wrote: ... A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Barclay, Daniel
Chris Jones wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:51:31PM EDT, Florian Kulzer wrote: [..] I need to see the relevant context quoted (properly trimmed as the discussion progresses, of course), especially if a thread has run for a while. Most business mail runs something like this: -

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Barclay, Daniel dan...@fgm.com wrote: Christofer C. Bell wrote: Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 3: Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? Mail 4: A: Because it messes up the order in which people

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 143f0f6c0903230837k4d6bc8a5r55fe985e82993...@mail.gmail.com, Christofer C. Bell wrote: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Top-posting. What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Top-posting. Why is top-posting such a bad thing? What

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:57:09AM EDT, Barclay, Daniel wrote: Chris Jones wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:51:31PM EDT, Florian Kulzer wrote: [..] I need to see the relevant context quoted (properly trimmed as the discussion progresses, of course), especially if a thread has run

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:37:21AM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Barclay, Daniel dan...@fgm.com wrote: Christofer C. Bell wrote: Mail 1: Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Mail 2: A: Top-posting. Mail 3: Q: Why is top-posting

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:16:12PM EDT, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 143f0f6c0903230837k4d6bc8a5r55fe985e82993...@mail.gmail.com, Christofer C. Bell wrote: [..] Thank goodness my threaded mail reader never shows 4 messages at once. (Alright, alright, it *can* but it doesn't do so for

Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-23 Thread Chris Jones
. Manners or No Manners; it's an easy choice. Bottom posting of course is just as bad or worse than top posting. The only person who can say that with a straight face is one who has spent too much time using Windows. Now then.. I have two bottom posters .. and one top poster.. What do I

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