Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Alexios Zavras]

Kostas Iliadis wrote [edited]:
> Δηλαδή από τη στιγμή που επιτρέπεται η αναδιανομή τους και υπάρχει το
> license στο docs είμαι οκ έτσι; ( το λέω για όλο το software που θα
> περιλάβω)
[...]
> Εν κατακλείδι όπως είπα και παραπάνω είμαι καλυμμένος στην έννοια
> "περιλαμβάνω το license" όταν αυτό βρίσκεται στο docs?

αν μιλάς για πακέτα debian, ναι, μπορείς να τα περιλάβεις στο πακέτο σου --
τα αναδιανείμει το debian και άρα υποθέτεις ότι θα είναι εντάξει.

όπως είπα και πριν, τα "εκτός debian" πρέπει να τα εξετάσεις ένα-ένα.

κλασσικό παράδειγμα προγράμματος που διατίθεται δωρεάν
αλλά δεν επιτρέπεται η αναδιανομή είναι η Java της Oracle.


α!  για πλήρη διευκρίνηση, για τα FOSS (και του debian),
το να έχεις απλά την άδεια δεν είναι η μόνη υποχρέωση που έχεις.
για παράδειγμα, για όλα τα GPL-licensed, πρέπει να αναδιανείμεις
(ή να κάνεις διαθέσιμο) τον πηγαίο κώδικα.


> Μπορεί να κάνω ερωτήσεις που φαίνονται αστείες σε πολλούς αλλά πιστέψτε με
> έχω μαύρα μεσάνυχτα πάνω στο συγκεκριμένο ζήτημα της αναδιανομής και
> δε θέλω να έχω προβλήματα στο μέλλον...γι' αυτό ζητώ την όποια κατανόηση
> και βοήθειά σας...

οι ερωτήσεις είναι πολύ σωστές -- δυστυχώς αυτά τα θέματα
διδάσκονται σπάνια, δεν ενδιαφέρουν τους περισσότερους,
και μετά τρέχουμε πολλοί να διορθώνουμε καταστάσεις.


-- 
-- zvr --
--  +---+   Alexios Zavras (-zvr-)
| H eytyxia den exei enoxes |   z...@zvr.gr
+---zvr-+

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Kostas Iliadis]

> *συνήθως* επιτρέπεται να τα εγκαταστήσεις.
> αλλά έχεις δίκιο, εσύ θες να τα ανα-διανείμεις
> (και ίσως να τα τροποποιήσεις), άρα (ίσως) ισχύουν άλλα.
> όπως ήδη ειπώθηκε, πρέπει να ελέγξεις τι επιτρέπεται
> (και τι υποχρεούσαι) να κάνεις από τις άδειες.
>
>
> Αυτο προσπαθώ να κάνω απλά δεν είχα τις απαραίτητες πληροφορίες για το πως
δουλεύει το σύστημα...


> τίποτα;!;  πως τίποτα;
> κοίταξες το https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwl3945 ;
> εκεί που βρίσκεις το firmware (http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/)
> εκεί έχει κι ένα αρχείο με το license.
> [I'm pretty certain; it's my day job :-)]
> δεν επιτρέπεται η μεταβολή ή το reverse engineering,
> και μη χρησιμοποιήσεις το όνομα της Intel για προώθηση προϊόντος σου,
> αλλά μπορείς να το αναδιανείμεις (μαζί με την άδεια, βέβαια)
> χωρίς πρόβλημα.
>

Ναι το βρήκα, ευχαριστώ πολύ. :)
εγώ έψαχνα λάθος τα licenses στο google , θα έπαιρνα όρκο οτι θυμόμουν
παλιά το καιρό που κάναμε compile το πρόγραμμα ότι υπήρχε αρχείο που
ονομαζόταν
LICENSE μέσα στο φάκελο του εκάστωτε προγράμματος και το έψαχνα έτσι και
όχι ως copyright. (
Το βρήκα επίσης και στο σύστημα μου στo /usr/share/docs
Δηλαδή από τη στιγμή που επιτρέπεται η αναδιανομή τους και υπάρχει το
license στο docs είμαι οκ έτσι; ( το λέω για όλο το software που θα
περιλάβω)

>
>
για τα άλλα που αναφέρεις (γραφικά και mate)
> δε μπορώ να πω αν δε ψάξω τις άδειες.
> και για τα "commercial" πάλι πρέπει να δεις τις άδειες,
> φυσικά, case by case.  το γεγονός ότι κάτι μπορεί
> να διατίθεται χωρίς κόστος δε σημαίνει ότι *εσύ*
> έχεις δικαίωμα να το ανα-διανείμεις.
>
> Για τα γραφικά επίσης βρήκα το license στο ίδιο μέρος και επίσης
επιτρέπεται
Ναι αυτό το κατάλαβα απ'τη καλή μεριά το θέμα της αναδιανομής. :)


Εν κατακλείδι όπως είπα και παραπάνω είμαι καλυμμένος στην έννοια
"περιλαμβάνω το license" όταν αυτό βρίσκεται στο docs?

Μπορεί να κάνω ερωτήσεις που φαίνονται αστείες σε πολλούς αλλά πιστέψτε με
έχω μαύρα μεσάνυχτα πάνω στο συγκεκριμένο ζήτημα της αναδιανομής και
δε θέλω να έχω προβλήματα στο μέλλον...γι' αυτό ζητώ την όποια κατανόηση
και βοήθειά σας...

Ευχαριστώ πολύ και πάλι

Κώστας

Re: problemas con wheezy y intel haswell

[Alejandro Alcántar]

Que yo recuerde algunas versiones del kernel 3.14 a 3.16.xx salieron
problemáticos. Prueba instalando  kernel 4 .   o regresate al kernel 3.2
que a mi me pareció muy estable. Saludos
On Feb 26, 2016 08:22, "Paradix ;)"  wrote:

> Saludos chicos
>
> tengo un pequeño server con micro i3-4160 basado en Haswell. tiene
> instalado wheezy con kernel 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae de 32 bits. estoy
> presentando problemas con xorg, la pantalla se queda en negro con un
> cursor y tengo q entrar mediante una tty. el error q me devuelve en
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log es el siguiente:
>
> [  1470.047] (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in
> Screen section
> "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
> [  1470.047] (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> [  1470.047] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888
> [  1470.047] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> [  1470.047] (--) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) HD
> Graphics
> [  1470.047] (II) UnloadModule: "intel"
> [  1470.047] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
> [  1470.047]
> Fatal server error:
> [  1470.047] no screens found
>
> ¿alguien ha tenido una experiencia semejante y ha podido darle solución?
> no me vale cambiar a jessie por varias razones muy particulares
>
> --
> Paradix  ;)
>
> Haciendo abogacía por el software libre adonde voy
>
> --
> Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que
> ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema
> Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de
> usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
>
> Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
>
>

Re: streamming de video en Debian

[Alejandro Alcántar]

ffmpeg server, muy bueno, busca en google

Re: Problemas al actualizar chrome

[Alejandro Alcántar]

On Mar 8, 2016 10:09, "Sergio Bessopeanetto"  wrote:
>
> El 08/03/16 a las 13:55, Camaleón escribió:
>
>> El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:47:35 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:
>>
>>> El 08/03/16 a las 12:04, Camaleón escribió:
>>
>>
>> (...)
>>
> Parece que Google ha dejado de dar soporte a la arquitectura i386.
> Está paasando en todas las distribuciones.


 No me lo podía creer pero es totalmente cierto:


Que de raro tiene que GOOGLE haga a un lado a los usuarios por sus propios
intereses

 https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/
 FoE6sL-p6oU
>>
>>
>> (...)
>>
 Esta gente está loca perdida, no puedo decir otra cosa. Primero elimina
 la opción de ejecutar Java, y ahora esto :-(

 Espero que Chromium siga compilando binarios para 32 bits.


No lo creo, chrome obligará a chromium que le siga el juego


>>> Por mí que se hagan una enema con Google Chrome, sólo lo uso para Ver
>>> Netflix. Para todo lo demás está Firefox.
>>

FIREFOX RULEZ

>>
>> Y esa la parte positiva, que más gente se pasará a Firefox. La locura de
>> unos es la bendición de otros :-)
>>
>> P.S. ¿Y qué le pasa a Netflix, no admite Firefox?

Lo mismo de siempre, las grandes compañías lucrativas hacen a un lado el
software libre

>>
>> Saludos,
>>
> Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento. Esperemos
> la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos independizamos de
Google Chrome para siempre.
>

BIBLIOTECA

Cuando van a entender que  "LIBRARY" se traduce como BIBLIOTECA!

Hoy en día también se le puede dar ese huso (librería) también ,pero no es
el concepto correcto que Richard Stallmand le da.

>
>
> --
> Sergio Bessopeanetto
> Buenos Aires - Argentina
>

Re: Help -- Can't logon at GUI session (ctl-alt-F7)

[Michael Milliman]

On 03/08/2016 08:50 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote:

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 20:13:46 -0600
Dennis Wicks  wrote:


I fill in user-id and password, click "Sign In" and the
screen goes blank, flashes a few times, then comes right
back to the sign in screen. Trying to log on with root does
the same thing, even though I am supposed to be able to do it.
I can logon at terminal screens (ctl-alt-f1 etc) with either
my personal userid or as root with no problem.

In case it makes a difference, Jessie AMD64

Many TIA!!
Dennis


Check the files in /home/$USER are not owned by root. They should be
owned by the user. If any hidden files are owned by root, the GUI login
loops.
I would not expect this to be the problem, as OP stated that he could 
also not log-in with GUI as root either...hidden files in the /root 
directory should be owned by root in this situation.

Also check if any partition is full. Running out of space can cause
this.
I did run across this once as well.  The partition that /var is on is a 
prime suspect:-)

These are the things I have found. Perhaps someone else will jump in
with more information.

- -- 
Charlie Kravetz

Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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Re: Help -- Can't logon at GUI session (ctl-alt-F7)

[Charlie Kravetz]

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 20:13:46 -0600
Dennis Wicks  wrote:

>I fill in user-id and password, click "Sign In" and the 
>screen goes blank, flashes a few times, then comes right 
>back to the sign in screen. Trying to log on with root does 
>the same thing, even though I am supposed to be able to do it.
>
>I can logon at terminal screens (ctl-alt-f1 etc) with either 
>my personal userid or as root with no problem.
>
>In case it makes a difference, Jessie AMD64
>
>Many TIA!!
>Dennis
>

Check the files in /home/$USER are not owned by root. They should be
owned by the user. If any hidden files are owned by root, the GUI login
loops. 

Also check if any partition is full. Running out of space can cause
this.

These are the things I have found. Perhaps someone else will jump in
with more information.

- -- 
Charlie Kravetz
Linux Registered User Number 425914
[http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html]
Never let anyone steal your DREAM.   [http://keepingdreams.com]
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Re: streamming de video en Debian

[Carlos Andrés Martín]

El 08/03/16 a las 12:07, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:52:40 -0300, Amid Ale escribió:

(ese formato...)


Quisiera consultar si alguien tiene alguna experiencia en algún sistema
para encodear video para transmisión en vivo bajo Debian en forma
profecional o semiprofesional. Me gustaría también si alguien me puede
recomendar algún servidor de streamming comercial que me permita tener
un número importante de clientes.

Para "encodear" no sé... para "codificar" sí que se ha hablado en esta
lista alguna que otra vez. Puedes buscar en su archivo:

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en_rd=cr,ssl#complete=0=en=streaming+video+site:lists.debian.org%2Fdebian-user-spanish

Saludos,

En la página de Icecast están recomendadas muchas aplicaciones para 
producir el flujo (stream):


http://www.icecast.org/apps/

No sé muy bien si tu intención es contratar un servicio para distribuir 
el "streaming" o quieres un programa para instalar el servidor en tu 
máquina y hacerlo vos. En este último caso, mi recomendación es Icecast.


Saludos.

Re: Help -- Can't logon at GUI session (ctl-alt-F7)

[Michael Milliman]

On 03/08/2016 08:13 PM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
I fill in user-id and password, click "Sign In" and the screen goes 
blank, flashes a few times, then comes right back to the sign in 
screen. Trying to log on with root does the same thing, even though I 
am supposed to be able to do it.


I can logon at terminal screens (ctl-alt-f1 etc) with either my 
personal userid or as root with no problem.


In case it makes a difference, Jessie AMD64

Many TIA!!
Dennis

I have had similar situation before.  I can't say that this is a good 
much less the best way to deal with it, but what I ended up doing is 
deleting all of the configuration files stored in the home directories 
of the affected users.  (anything starting with .)  Once this was done, 
the desktop environment was forced to re-create new configuration 
files.  This problem, in my experience is due to something in one of the 
configuration files that was corrupted.  In your situation, as it 
affects more than one user, this may not work as it it probable that the 
problem is in a global configuration in the /etc directory.  Hopefully, 
someone with more experience will answer and give you a better pointer 
to exactly which files to look at.


--
MEM

Help -- Can't logon at GUI session (ctl-alt-F7)

[Dennis Wicks]

I fill in user-id and password, click "Sign In" and the 
screen goes blank, flashes a few times, then comes right 
back to the sign in screen. Trying to log on with root does 
the same thing, even though I am supposed to be able to do it.


I can logon at terminal screens (ctl-alt-f1 etc) with either 
my personal userid or as root with no problem.


In case it makes a difference, Jessie AMD64

Many TIA!!
Dennis

Re: clone d'un système: problème avec systemd au boot

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 01:06:41 +0100
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Bonjour,
> 
> Je viens de changer le disque dur de mon portable en clonant (avec fsarchiver
> savedir/restdir) son disque vers le nouveau puis en réinstallant grub avec un
> chroot. Mais au boot suivant, bien que la machine démarre, j'ai plein
> d'erreurs systemd du genre:
> 
> Failed to mount Configuration File System
> 
> Failed to mount FUSE Control File System
> 
> Failed to start File System Check on Root Device
> 
> etc.
> 
> Vu que j'entrave que dalle à systemd je ne sais pas trop quoi faire ?
> 
> A+
> 
> Gaëtan

Alors finalement j'ai regardé plus attentivement les log sur l'ancien SSD et
le problème existait déjà. C'est apparu avec la mise à jour de systemd 228-6
vers 229-2.
Par contre ça n'explique pas mon problème de perf sur le nouveau SSD ...

Gaëtan

Re: clone d'un système: problème avec systemd au boot

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Seul le fichier /etc/blkid.tab n'est pas à jour mais je ne sais pas à quoi il
sert ?

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 21:02:18 +0100
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Oui j'avais déjà modifié les UUID à divers endroits
> (/etc/default/grub, /etc/fstab, /etc/initramfs-tools) mais sans succès.
> 
> A+
> 
> Gaëtan
> 
> Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:45:53 +0100
> Simon Cavey  a écrit:
> 
> > Si le nouveau disque dur a été formaté, il doit y avoir un problème d'UUID.
> > 
> > Solution booter sur un système live. exécuter la commande
> > 
> > sudo blkid
> > 
> > identifier les UUID des partitions.
> > monter le disque dur fraichement restauré
> > mettre à jour les fichier de config avec les nouveau UUID:
> > 
> > /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> > et surtout
> > /etc/fstab
> > 
> > Et ça devrait pouvoir fonctionner à nouveau correctement.
> > 
> > 
> > Le 08/03/2016 01:06, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > Je viens de changer le disque dur de mon portable en clonant (avec
> > > fsarchiver savedir/restdir) son disque vers le nouveau puis en
> > > réinstallant grub avec un chroot. Mais au boot suivant, bien que la
> > > machine démarre, j'ai plein d'erreurs systemd du genre:
> > >
> > > Failed to mount Configuration File System
> > >
> > > Failed to mount FUSE Control File System
> > >
> > > Failed to start File System Check on Root Device
> > >
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Vu que j'entrave que dalle à systemd je ne sais pas trop quoi faire ?
> > >
> > > A+
> > >
> > > Gaëtan
> > >
> > 

Re: SANE scanner error on Debian Jessie

[New Linux]

Thanks Lisi, but still having the same trouble...

I did this:

1) To /etc/apt/sources.list I added the line: deb
   http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-backports main

2) Then did:  apt-get update

3) Then did: apt-get -t jessie-backports install sane libsane libsane-
   common sane-utils

But when I try to scan, I get the same errors as described previously.
Am I doing something wrong there?



- Original message -
From: Lisi Reisz 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SANE scanner error on Debian Jessie
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 23:01:42 +


> Some new information about SANE scanner problem:
>
> Debian (scanner not working): libsane 1.0.24 libsane-common 1.0.24
>
> Ubuntu (scanner working): libsane 1.0.23 libsane-common 1.0.23
>
> To experiment, I used synaptic to remove everything related to SANE on
> Debian Jessie, and then compiled SANE 1.0.23 from source on it. And
> then command line SCANNING WORKED - Great!
>
> Unfortunately, as soon as I reinstalled either XSane or SimpleScan,
> synaptic reinstalled SANE 1.0.24 and then nothing worked again.
>
> If these questions sound like I don't know what I'm doing, it's
> because I don't know what I'm doing (amateur Debian user):
>
> 1) Is there some way I can install the older SANE 1.0.23 via Synaptic?
> 2) Alternatively, since SANE 1.0.22 was part of Wheezy - can that be
>installed via Synaptic on Jessie?

I wrote half an email before doing the correct Google search. :-(

I see that the Jessie libsane problem has already been solved:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libsane=names=all=all

So follow these directions for using Backports, and you will be home and
dry: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

I don't know how you use backports in Synaptic. In Aptitude it is the
same as in apt-get, mutatis mutandis. You could always use apt-get just
this once!

Lisi
>
> Original post:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00241.html

Re: clone d'un système: problème avec systemd au boot

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Bon en fait le problème est plus grave, car je constate des perfs sur le
nouvel SSD totalement anormales (<100Mo/s).
Donc y a vraiment un truc qui merde... :(

Gaëtan

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 20:34:56 +0200, Jarle Aase wrote:

> Thanks for all the hints and suggestions.
> 
> I have still not got the printing to work, but the scanner successfully
> sends the scans to my FTP server (https://sourceforge.net/projects/wfde/).
> That's kind of cool :) The scan quality is fine. I actually like this
> device. I'll see if I get it to print later this week. Tomorrow my dog is
> having an operation, and I have some code to deliver.

Scanning using the Brother closed source driver? Pragmatism in action.
Some security risks are worth taking, :)

No puedo montar particion win

[Germán Avendaño Ramírez]

Hola comunidad

Ahora no puedo montar la partición ntfs que antes montaba regularmente
luego de ingresar mi contraseña SUDO. Lo único raro que hice antes de
notar este inconveniente, fue instalar algunas tareas de Debian-edu,
"education-desktop-xfce" y "education-standalone" usando tasksel.

Ahora me pide la contraseña, pero luego de ingresarla no me permite
montarla, me produce un fallo de autenticación. Luego de ingresarla
varias veces, me aparece el mensaje "Not authorized to perform operation."

Alguna sugerencia para poder solucionar mi problema?

Atentamente,

-- 
Germán Avendaño Ramírez
Lic. Mat. U.D., M.Sc. U.N.
Colegio José Benigno Segura Velásquez
Delegado Asamblea ADE
GNU/Linux user # 531535
Sent from Debian Jessie GNU/Linux

Re: Problemas con la conexión inalámbrica en la instalación

[Alejandro Alcántar]

También INSTALAR DEBIAN SIN CARGADOR DE ARRANQUE (GRUB).
y después arrancas con
el CD "super grub"
Y una vez adentro lo lo reinstalas ;-)

Crash no gdm3 depois de desplugar o cabo de VGA de projetor ou segundo monitor

[Arnaldo Russo]

Olá pessoal,

Estou com um problema, que até agora não consegui encontrar solução, nem
tão pouco gerar um relatório para poder exemplificar.

Quando plug meu computador em um projetor, ou segundo monitor, a imagem
passa tranquilo e consigo usá-los normalmente.

O problema acontece exatamente na hora de desplugar o cabo VGA.
o tty7 morre, e cai para o tty4, mas aparentemente as coisas continuam
rodando no tty7, mas não consigo fazer nada.
Meu procedimento até o momento é mudar para o tty1, e restartar o gdm3, mas
isso faz com que eu perca todas as coisas que estavam abertas.

Alguém já teve problema similar, ou mesmo tem uma luz sobre isso?
Abraço,
Arnaldo

Re: SANE scanner error on Debian Jessie

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 08 March 2016 20:46:19 New Linux wrote:
> Some new information about SANE scanner problem:
>
> Debian (scanner not working): libsane 1.0.24 libsane-common 1.0.24
>
> Ubuntu (scanner working): libsane 1.0.23 libsane-common 1.0.23
>
> To experiment, I used synaptic to remove everything related to SANE on
> Debian Jessie, and then compiled SANE 1.0.23 from source on it. And then
> command line SCANNING WORKED - Great!
>
> Unfortunately, as soon as I reinstalled either XSane or SimpleScan,
> synaptic reinstalled SANE 1.0.24 and then nothing worked again.
>
> If these questions sound like I don't know what I'm doing, it's because
> I don't know what I'm doing (amateur Debian user):
>
> 1) Is there some way I can install the older SANE 1.0.23 via Synaptic?
> 2) Alternatively, since SANE 1.0.22 was part of Wheezy - can that be
>installed via Synaptic on Jessie?

I wrote half an email before doing the correct Google search. :-(

I see that the Jessie libsane problem has already been solved:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libsane=names=all=all

So follow these directions for using Backports, and you will be home and dry:
http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

I don't know how you use backports in Synaptic.  In Aptitude it is the same as 
in apt-get, mutatis mutandis.  You could always use apt-get just this once!

Lisi
>
> Hope someone can help!
>
>
> Original post:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00241.html

Re: [OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 08/03/16 a las 18:10, Paynalton escribió:

Pues de versión no es, acabo de descargar el último binario de la página
de firefox y no funciona con netflix (Eso si, carga la mar de rápido
jajajjaj)

--

  
/ Trabajo hecho en domingo, el diablo se \
\ lo lleva.  /
  
 \   ^__^
  \  (oo)\___
 (__)\   )\/\
 ||w |
 || ||



El mar, 08-03-2016 a las 15:47 -0500, Omar Pacheco escribió:

http://lignux.com/netflix-se-interesa-por-gnu-linux-para-traer-su-sistema-de-reproduccion-de-peliculas-a-ubuntu/

Ahí hablan algo sobre una librería NSS (Network Security Service)
versión 3.16.2 o superior, pero hablan únicamente de google Chrome, si
alguien lo hace funcionar el Firefox que comparta

El día 8 de marzo de 2016, 14:52, Sergio Bessopeanetto
> escribió:
> El 08/03/16 a las 14:35, Camaleón escribió:
>>
>> El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:23:43 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:
>>
>>> El 08/03/16 a las 14:15, Camaleón escribió:
>>
>>
>> (...)
>>
> Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún
no la
> compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento.
> Esperemos que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
> independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.


 Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y
 Firefox.
 Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5,
 así que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?

 https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081

>>> Bueno, acabo de probarlo en Firefox bajo Manjaro y quiso funcionar
pero
>>> al final dice que sólo es compatible con las versiones oficiales de
>>> Mozzila y no por compilaciones que no sean de Mozilla, algo que no
>>> entiendo puesto que se supone que las comunidades que ofrecen la
última
>>> versión como ser las de Ubuntu y Arch, por ejemplo, compilan a
partir de
>>> las fuentes oficiales, entonces la compatibilidad debería estar
>>> solucionada. Cosas extrañas que pasan en el mundo del software.
>>
>>
>> Ah, pues mira qué bien, si funciona en Firefox ya no hay excusa ;-D
>>
>> ¿Has probado a cambiar el "user-agent"? Quizá sólo se trate de una
>> tontuna.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
> Pues nada. Con el pugin de Firefox para cambiar el useragent tampoco
> funciona. Caduca la sesión y se cierra.
> Seguiremos con Google Chrome hasta que se pueda. En 64 bits anda bien.
>
> Saludos.
>
>
> --
> Sergio Bessopeanetto
> Buenos Aires - Argentina
>



También noté la extraordinaria diferencia en velocidad de carga y 
fluidez en las animaciones del menú.

Espero que alguien pueda hacer funcionar esa bendita librería.
Supongo que debe estar en la compilación sino sería muy fácil
incluirla como add-on o plugin.

Saludos.

--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina

Actes Anti-DRM els propers 10 dies

[xdrudis]

On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 11:12:55AM +0100, Ernest Adrogué wrote:
> 2016-03- 4, 10:36 (+0100); xdru...@tinet.cat escriu:
> > Els PCs moderns, portàtils o no, tenen tots problemes de programari
> > incrustat que inclou massa infraestructura per al control remot. Si no
> > els poses els blobs signats pel fabricant ni tan sols arrenquen. I ara
> > es posa de moda afegir blobs signats per a la GPU també. Però es veu que
> > la gent deu pagar un ordinador perquè pertanyi a un altre (al fabricant, 
> > al seu govern, a qui compri algun dia al fabricant i es quedi amb la seva
> > clau, a qui li robi...). 
> > 
> > https://libreboot.org/faq/#intel
> > 
> 
> Fa poc vaig veure un video interessant sobre el tema:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6bJ5b8Dgoc
> 
> La conclusió (spoiler alert) és que actualment no existeix cap portàtil que
> no tingui xips susceptibles de ser utilitzats amb finalitats d'espionatge
> sense coneixement de l'usuari.
> 
> 

Una de les excuses per a fotre porqueries per al control remot a tot
el maquinari que venen és el DRM. Figura que Hollywood i companyia
volen vendre't continguts que puguis veure al "teu" ordinador i no els
puguis copiar, desar, veure una altra estona o en un altre dispositiu,
compartir, o usar de formes (ni que siguin legals) que ells no
controlin. Com que això és impossible si et donen el contingut,
necessiten donar-lo per comptes de a tu a un ordinador que ells
controlin i que tu et pensis que es teu. Per a aconseguir que no sigui
teu necessiten programari privatiu o tivoització (programari amb
llicència lliure però que el maquinari es nega a executar si el
modifiques). I per evitar incompatibilitats entre programari privatiu,
entre altres, volen estandaritzar la interacció entre el navegador i
les extensions privatives de DRM, colant Encrypted Media Extensions
(EME) al World Wide Web Consortium (W3C).

En teoria no es fàcil vendre un ordinador que no faci el que vol el
comprador, sobretot si algú altre en ven que sí que ho fan; és més
fàcil vendre un ordinador que permet veure continguts restringits
populars mentre que el que ven l'altre no ho permet. I els que es
dediquen a usar o distribuir programari 100% lliure, doncs au, a
justificar perquè hi haurà (més) continguts a la web que no seran
accessibles.

Això no és nou, però diu que el 20-22 de març de 2016 hi ha una reunió
del W3C a Boston per discutir les EME. Si ho aproven figura que els
navegadors que compleixin l'estandard hauran d'acceptar extensions
privatives de cada editor de continguts (o consorcis) per a poder
desxifrar i mostrar els continguts amb garanties (per a la "holliweb")
de que l'usuari no pugui fer el que vulgui amb el contingut.

La campanya Defective by Design de la FSF està demanant accions de
protesta abans del 17.3.2016 per intentar que no ho aprovin el 20-22.

El millor seria muntar manifestacions a ciutats amb seus de la W3C
(les més properes als Països Catalans deuen ser Gijón, Paris, Pisa i
Rabat, massa lluny per a mi).  Si no, demanen que els enviem fotos de
persones amb pancartes anti-EME davant les seus d'aquestes ciutats
(amb cara visible o difuminada). I si tampoc, doncs fotos d'aquestes
allà on sigui (no sé quin seria el lloc més simbòlic als Països
Catalans).

Sense EME no vol dir que no hi pugui haver DRM, és simplement que no
estarà refrendat per l'organització que havia vetllat força per una 
web oberta. I amb una miqueta de sort hi haurà més fragmentació al DRM.
Quasi que l'avantatge principal de rebutjar EME és mantenir una mica
la confiança en el W3C.  

Per a més informació :
https://www.defectivebydesign.org/show-them-the-world-is-watching-stop-drm-in-html

Perdó pel cross-posting. He pensat que potser algú vol fer alguna cosa, 
ni que sigui comunicar-ho a coneguts en alguna de les 20 ciutats.

-- 
Xavi

Re: exim4 maildir_tag

[Darac Marjal]

On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 23:21:26 +1100
Andrew McGlashan  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 8/03/2016 8:32 PM, Christian Schmidt wrote:
> > On 07.03.2016 19:34, Andrew McGlashan wrote:  
> >> So, mail queue handling will then be done by dovecot-lda instead
> >> of exim4.  
> > 
> > No, dovecot "only" does delivery to your local users'
> > mailboxes/maildirs.  
> 
> That's what I thought, thanks for confirming.
> 
> >> Will mailq still give me results the same way?  
> > 
> > Sure.  
> 
> Excellent, now I just need to work out how to gzip emails when they
> are larger than the file system block size of 4KB -- although I do
> wonder, does dovecot provide clients with non-zipped data or can it
> benefit form less traffic by providing zipped data over the
> transport?  (like how a web browser might receive zipped content and
> unzip it to build the webpage on the client).

Dovecot has two (relevant) plugins. zlib compresses the stored emails.
This is transparent to all clients - exim provides uncompressed emails,
dovecot compresses them to disk and on-the-fly decompresses them when
serving them back to mail clients.

There is also imap_zlib which works like the HTTP gzip extension. IMAP
communications are compressed, allowing fewer bytes to be sent between
the server and the clients.

> 
> Oh and the system_filter saves files directly to backup areas that are
> not users on the system; so I have some work to do on that as well.
> 
> Thanks
> AndrewM
> 

Re: clone d'un système: problème avec systemd au boot

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 01:06:41 +0100
Gaëtan PERRIER  a écrit:

> Bonjour,
> 
> Je viens de changer le disque dur de mon portable en clonant (avec fsarchiver
> savedir/restdir) son disque vers le nouveau puis en réinstallant grub avec un
> chroot. Mais au boot suivant, bien que la machine démarre, j'ai plein
> d'erreurs systemd du genre:
> 
> Failed to mount Configuration File System
> 
> Failed to mount FUSE Control File System
> 
> Failed to start File System Check on Root Device
> 
> etc.
> 
> Vu que j'entrave que dalle à systemd je ne sais pas trop quoi faire ?

Ce qui est bizarre c'est qu'une fois démarré si je fais un systemctl --failed
tout est ok ...

Gaëtan

Re: [OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Paynalton]

Pues de versión no es, acabo de descargar el último binario de la página
de firefox y no funciona con netflix (Eso si, carga la mar de rápido
jajajjaj)
-- 

 
/ Trabajo hecho en domingo, el diablo se \
\ lo lleva.  /
 
\   ^__^
 \  (oo)\___
(__)\   )\/\
||w |
|| ||



El mar, 08-03-2016 a las 15:47 -0500, Omar Pacheco escribió:

> http://lignux.com/netflix-se-interesa-por-gnu-linux-para-traer-su-sistema-de-reproduccion-de-peliculas-a-ubuntu/
> 
> Ahí hablan algo sobre una librería NSS (Network Security Service)
> versión 3.16.2 o superior, pero hablan únicamente de google Chrome, si
> alguien lo hace funcionar el Firefox que comparta
> 
> El día 8 de marzo de 2016, 14:52, Sergio Bessopeanetto
>  escribió:
> > El 08/03/16 a las 14:35, Camaleón escribió:
> >>
> >> El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:23:43 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:
> >>
> >>> El 08/03/16 a las 14:15, Camaleón escribió:
> >>
> >>
> >> (...)
> >>
> > Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
> > compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento.
> > Esperemos que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
> > independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.
> 
> 
>  Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y
>  Firefox.
>  Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5,
>  así que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?
> 
>  https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081
> 
> >>> Bueno, acabo de probarlo en Firefox bajo Manjaro y quiso funcionar pero
> >>> al final dice que sólo es compatible con las versiones oficiales de
> >>> Mozzila y no por compilaciones que no sean de Mozilla, algo que no
> >>> entiendo puesto que se supone que las comunidades que ofrecen la última
> >>> versión como ser las de Ubuntu y Arch, por ejemplo, compilan a partir de
> >>> las fuentes oficiales, entonces la compatibilidad debería estar
> >>> solucionada. Cosas extrañas que pasan en el mundo del software.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ah, pues mira qué bien, si funciona en Firefox ya no hay excusa ;-D
> >>
> >> ¿Has probado a cambiar el "user-agent"? Quizá sólo se trate de una
> >> tontuna.
> >>
> >> Saludos,
> >>
> > Pues nada. Con el pugin de Firefox para cambiar el useragent tampoco
> > funciona. Caduca la sesión y se cierra.
> > Seguiremos con Google Chrome hasta que se pueda. En 64 bits anda bien.
> >
> > Saludos.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sergio Bessopeanetto
> > Buenos Aires - Argentina
> >
> 
> 
> 

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Kostas Iliadis]

Commercial εννοώ με την ευρύτερη έννοια εμπορικά. Με συγχωρείς αν σε
κούρασα αλλά δε τα γνωρίζω αυτά ούτε μ'ενδιέφεραν μέχρι τώρα.
Τώρα που πρέπει να τα περιλάβω στη διανομή πρέπει να περάσω αυτό το κυκεώνα
γιατί σαν απλός χρήστης επιτρέπεται να τα εγκαταστήσεις.

Όσο για τα licenses που μπορώ να τα βρώ , να κατεβάσω το source code?
Για τη κάρτα γραφικών βρήκα οτι είναι GPL and additional rights.
Για το mate στο community μου είπαν οτι δεν υπάρχει πρόβλημα αν το
πειράξεις δε χρειάζεσαι άδεια
Για το wifi δε βρίσκω τίποτα.

Ευχαριστώ και πάλι.

2016-03-08 19:43 GMT+02:00 John Tsiombikas :

> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:34:53PM +0200, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> >  Τα θέματα που με καίνε είναι τα εξής μέχρι
> στιγμής:
> > 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη διανομή μου
> > (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
>
> Ti ennoeis commercial? Den se endiaferei an einai commercial to
> programma, to licnese tou se endiaferei kai an epitrepei anadianomi. Ola
> ta anothen pou eipes epitrepoun anadianomi, alla to skype den einai free
> software, kati pou tha rotiseis ton eayto sou an se apasxolei i oxi. To
> debian giayto to logo den to symperilambanei sto main repo tou.
>
> > 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
>
> Des to license tou.
>
> > 3) Ati Graphic Firmware
>
> Des to license tou.
>
> > 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του Mate ktl
>
> Des to license tou.
>
> > με τιμή,
>
> Me kourasi.
>
> --
> John Tsiombikas
> http://nuclear.mutantstargoat.com/
>
>

Re: [OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Omar Pacheco]

http://lignux.com/netflix-se-interesa-por-gnu-linux-para-traer-su-sistema-de-reproduccion-de-peliculas-a-ubuntu/

Ahí hablan algo sobre una librería NSS (Network Security Service)
versión 3.16.2 o superior, pero hablan únicamente de google Chrome, si
alguien lo hace funcionar el Firefox que comparta

El día 8 de marzo de 2016, 14:52, Sergio Bessopeanetto
 escribió:
> El 08/03/16 a las 14:35, Camaleón escribió:
>>
>> El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:23:43 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:
>>
>>> El 08/03/16 a las 14:15, Camaleón escribió:
>>
>>
>> (...)
>>
> Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
> compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento.
> Esperemos que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
> independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.


 Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y
 Firefox.
 Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5,
 así que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?

 https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081

>>> Bueno, acabo de probarlo en Firefox bajo Manjaro y quiso funcionar pero
>>> al final dice que sólo es compatible con las versiones oficiales de
>>> Mozzila y no por compilaciones que no sean de Mozilla, algo que no
>>> entiendo puesto que se supone que las comunidades que ofrecen la última
>>> versión como ser las de Ubuntu y Arch, por ejemplo, compilan a partir de
>>> las fuentes oficiales, entonces la compatibilidad debería estar
>>> solucionada. Cosas extrañas que pasan en el mundo del software.
>>
>>
>> Ah, pues mira qué bien, si funciona en Firefox ya no hay excusa ;-D
>>
>> ¿Has probado a cambiar el "user-agent"? Quizá sólo se trate de una
>> tontuna.
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
> Pues nada. Con el pugin de Firefox para cambiar el useragent tampoco
> funciona. Caduca la sesión y se cierra.
> Seguiremos con Google Chrome hasta que se pueda. En 64 bits anda bien.
>
> Saludos.
>
>
> --
> Sergio Bessopeanetto
> Buenos Aires - Argentina
>



-- 
Saludos,

Omar Daniel Pacheco Díaz.

Re: SANE scanner error on Debian Jessie

[New Linux]

Some new information about SANE scanner problem:

Debian (scanner not working): libsane 1.0.24 libsane-common 1.0.24

Ubuntu (scanner working): libsane 1.0.23 libsane-common 1.0.23

To experiment, I used synaptic to remove everything related to SANE on
Debian Jessie, and then compiled SANE 1.0.23 from source on it. And then
command line SCANNING WORKED - Great!

Unfortunately, as soon as I reinstalled either XSane or SimpleScan,
synaptic reinstalled SANE 1.0.24 and then nothing worked again.

If these questions sound like I don't know what I'm doing, it's because
I don't know what I'm doing (amateur Debian user):

1) Is there some way I can install the older SANE 1.0.23 via Synaptic?
2) Alternatively, since SANE 1.0.22 was part of Wheezy - can that be
   installed via Synaptic on Jessie?

Hope someone can help!


Original post:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00241.html

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 20:28:18 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:34:56PM +0200, Jarle Aase wrote:
> > Thanks for all the hints and suggestions.
> > 
> > I have still not got the printing to work, but the scanner
> > successfully sends the scans to my FTP server
> > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/wfde/). That's kind of cool :) The
> > scan quality is fine. I actually like this device. I'll see if I get
> > it to print later this week. Tomorrow my dog is having an operation,
> > and I have some code to deliver.
> 
> Similar to what Gene mentioned, I've seen printers which want a CTRL-Z
> at the end of the job; the output filter would usually take care of
> that.

Which output filter are you referring to? Take note: the OP is adamant
about not using the Brother lpr filter. 

> A shot in the dark-and-muddy, but who knows.

Indeed.

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Felix Miata]

Jarle Aase composed on 2016-03-08 16:56 (UTC+0200):


The printer display says that it is receiving data. Then nothing happens. So
the comm-link is OK.


I have a bunch of multiboot machines. Among the installations are Wheezy, 
Jessie and Stretch, among various releases of Fedora, Kubuntu, openSUSE, 
Mageia, and others.


Last summer, to replace a Canon MF laser (Canon I'll never buy again, printer 
or anything else, due to lack of customer support for Linux users) I acquired 
first (new):


Brother HL-5470DW

then (new, but very old stock):

Brother MFC-420CN

Both are connected only via Ethernet. On some installations I had no trouble 
making the laser print, while on others I never did figure it out. Whether 
any Jessie was among those successful I don't remember, and I think I didn't 
even try with Stretch. IIRC, it was only in the most recent releases using 
the latest CUPS versions that I had trouble, but I've forgotten all details. 
As a result of the trouble I had, I've never even tried to configure the 
inkjet as a printer. I've used it only as a copier so far. It's nuts. If out 
of color ink it refuses to print anything (according to Brother, that's 
normal, and really stupid), even when I want black only, and it won't print 
black at all anyway (it did when I got it, but quit long before the first ink 
cartridge ran out).

--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

do not know how to report this bug

[quench]

I recently made a 8.3 netinstall cd and went through the installation 
process (with encryption). After installation was done it rebooted and 
the password prompt came up. I tried entering my password several times, 
failing each time, even though I am sure I entered it correctly most of 
the time.


I then re-inserted the 8.3 netinstall cd and using rescue mode, I was 
able to successfully enter the password and mount the drive in 'rescue 
mode'. I am new to Linux so i wasn't sure how to fix it from there.


I then made a 7.9 netinstall cd and installed with encryption to test if 
my hardware was at fault. This time I was able to successfully enter my 
password and boot my encrypted OS.


BTW my password consisted of upper case, lower case and numbers.

Re: clone d'un système: problème avec systemd au boot

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:44:09 +0100
pmenier  a écrit:

> Le 08/03/2016 01:06, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Je viens de changer le disque dur de mon portable en clonant (avec
> > fsarchiver savedir/restdir) son disque vers le nouveau puis en
> > réinstallant grub avec un chroot. Mais au boot suivant, bien que la
> > machine démarre, j'ai plein d'erreurs systemd du genre:
> >
> > Failed to mount Configuration File System
> >
> > Failed to mount FUSE Control File System
> >
> > Failed to start File System Check on Root Device
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > Vu que j'entrave que dalle à systemd je ne sais pas trop quoi faire ?
> >
> > A+
> >
> > Gaëtan
> >
> >
> Salut
> 
> J'ai déjà fait ce genre de manip avec clonezilla sans rencontrer de 
> problemes. Si tu as toujours l'ancien disque sous la main ça pourrait 
> valoir le coup d'essayer ...
> De plus pas besoin de bouiner pour réinstaller GRUB avec cet outil.
> 
> Patrick
> 

Je garde éventuellement cette solution pour plus tard mais jusqu'à maintenant
j'ai toujours transféré mes systèmes par copie + chroot pour grub sans aucun
soucis. C'est la première fois que ça me fait ça ...

A+

Gaëtan

Re: clone d'un système: problème avec systemd au boot

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Oui j'avais déjà modifié les UUID à divers endroits
(/etc/default/grub, /etc/fstab, /etc/initramfs-tools) mais sans succès.

A+

Gaëtan

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 07:45:53 +0100
Simon Cavey  a écrit:

> Si le nouveau disque dur a été formaté, il doit y avoir un problème d'UUID.
> 
> Solution booter sur un système live. exécuter la commande
> 
> sudo blkid
> 
> identifier les UUID des partitions.
> monter le disque dur fraichement restauré
> mettre à jour les fichier de config avec les nouveau UUID:
> 
> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> et surtout
> /etc/fstab
> 
> Et ça devrait pouvoir fonctionner à nouveau correctement.
> 
> 
> Le 08/03/2016 01:06, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > Je viens de changer le disque dur de mon portable en clonant (avec
> > fsarchiver savedir/restdir) son disque vers le nouveau puis en
> > réinstallant grub avec un chroot. Mais au boot suivant, bien que la
> > machine démarre, j'ai plein d'erreurs systemd du genre:
> >
> > Failed to mount Configuration File System
> >
> > Failed to mount FUSE Control File System
> >
> > Failed to start File System Check on Root Device
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > Vu que j'entrave que dalle à systemd je ne sais pas trop quoi faire ?
> >
> > A+
> >
> > Gaëtan
> >
> 

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[tomas]

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On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 08:34:56PM +0200, Jarle Aase wrote:
> Thanks for all the hints and suggestions.
> 
> I have still not got the printing to work, but the scanner
> successfully sends the scans to my FTP server
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/wfde/). That's kind of cool :) The
> scan quality is fine. I actually like this device. I'll see if I get
> it to print later this week. Tomorrow my dog is having an operation,
> and I have some code to deliver.

Similar to what Gene mentioned, I've seen printers which want a CTRL-Z
at the end of the job; the output filter would usually take care of
that.

A shot in the dark-and-muddy, but who knows.

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Re: Fwd: KVM Bridge wlan0

[Gustavo S. L.]

already tried?

# apt-get install libvirt-bin
# virsh net-start default

Following if you use the virt-manager will easily specify the network
interface as a bridge

2016-03-08 16:34 GMT-03:00 Pascal Hambourg :

> Le 08/03/2016 18:59, Dan Ritter a écrit :
>
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections
>>
>> There are special instructions for wireless bridges.
>>
>
> Interesting, but it won't be of much help if the kernel itself prohibits
> bridging of a wireless interface.
>
>


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Re: [OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 08/03/16 a las 14:35, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:23:43 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:


El 08/03/16 a las 14:15, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento.
Esperemos que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.


Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y
Firefox.
Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5,
así que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?

https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081


Bueno, acabo de probarlo en Firefox bajo Manjaro y quiso funcionar pero
al final dice que sólo es compatible con las versiones oficiales de
Mozzila y no por compilaciones que no sean de Mozilla, algo que no
entiendo puesto que se supone que las comunidades que ofrecen la última
versión como ser las de Ubuntu y Arch, por ejemplo, compilan a partir de
las fuentes oficiales, entonces la compatibilidad debería estar
solucionada. Cosas extrañas que pasan en el mundo del software.


Ah, pues mira qué bien, si funciona en Firefox ya no hay excusa ;-D

¿Has probado a cambiar el "user-agent"? Quizá sólo se trate de una
tontuna.

Saludos,

Pues nada. Con el pugin de Firefox para cambiar el useragent tampoco 
funciona. Caduca la sesión y se cierra.

Seguiremos con Google Chrome hasta que se pueda. En 64 bits anda bien.

Saludos.

--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina

Re: Fwd: KVM Bridge wlan0

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 08/03/2016 18:59, Dan Ritter a écrit :


https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections

There are special instructions for wireless bridges.


Interesting, but it won't be of much help if the kernel itself prohibits 
bridging of a wireless interface.

Re: Certificado Digital (eCPF) - Token Safenet - eToken 510X

[Moacir Hardt Godoy]

Eu tenho um certificado A3 (Alladin e-token pro 72k) usando o safenet
8.3 no debian. Baixei de um revendedor aqui no Brasil,
mas não me lembro onde. Caso interesse compartilho no dropbox. Funciona
direitinho.

Moacir

Em 08/03/2016 10:38, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:
> Em 08-03-2016 10:13, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:
>> [...]
>> Daí temos que recorrer ao fabricante do software, creio que
>> também para eTokens, a SafeSign [3], que parece que foi engolida pela
>> CertSign+Microsoft e não responde, não encontrei mais nada desse
>> site. Perguntando ao Gooráculo pela versão 3.0.87 do Safesign que tem
>> para Windows, mas para Linux, "safesign 3.0.87 linux download", vem
>> site do Serasa que tem para Linux a versão 3.0.43, que não reconhece
>> os novos certificados, que exigem no mínimo a versão 3.0.77. Logo
>> depois vem esse [4] da Valid, que tem a versão 3.0.87 para Windows e
>> 3.0.77 para Linux, que já nos atende.
>> Bom, se alguém encontrar e/ou tiver um link _seguro_ da
>> versão 3.0.87 do SafeSign para Linux, favor postar aqui.
>> [...]
>
> Em tempo, quando eu disse _seguro_, eu quis dizer em site de revendas
> de certificados conhecidas e no Brasil. Mas tenho esse link que não
> posso garantir a procedência:
>
> http://lliurex.net/trusty/pool/main/s/safesignidentityclient/
>
>

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[deloptes]

Jarle Aase wrote:

> And frankly, it makes no sense to me that printers require special
> drivers in order to work. The transport protocols are standardized. The
> page description protocols are standardized (or at least well known).

This is true, but the internal machinery must be driven somehow - this is
not covered by anything standardized.

> Using proprietary transport or page description protocols seems just
> like a waste of development resources and support resources. It's very
> hard to make good, optimal implementations of anything slightly complex
> (it's just weeks ago another dns bug was found in glibc!). Therefore it
> should be best for everyone to refine common code to do such things as
> safe and efficient as possible. Not reinventing wheels and doing the
> same stupid mistakes over and over again. I really don't understand what
> the printer industry (this is not only a problem with Brother) is doing.
> May be it boils down to something as simple as the egos at incompetent
> product managers.

Well, I also do not understand capitalist way of thinking perfectly well.
While no one is supposed to reinvent the wheel, industry etc works in
secrecy and does not share - thus one is supposed to reinvent the wheel at
the end or share profit (patent rights).
One mentioned obsolescence before. I think the profit driven corporations
are acting nowdays as psychopats.

The printing would work without proprietary software as you pointed out -
that protocol is standard but if you check the specs of the device, you
would find out that it is All-in-one unit - scanner + printer + wireless
print server. All this needs a software - I highlight 2 points from the
specs

- Wireless Mobile Device Printing
- Web Connect Scan to popular cloud services including Google Drive™,
DropboxWeb Connect Scan to popular cloud services including Google Drive™,
Dropbox, Evernote® and Evernote Business® , Microsoft OneNote® and more,
Evernote® and Evernote Business® , Microsoft OneNote® and more

http://www.brother-usa.com/MultiFunction/ModelDetail/4/mfcj5720dw/Overview#.Vt8TanYiQR9

So if you want to just print - buy just printing device and do not moan
about proprietary drivers. 

I personally prefer HP business class laser printers - you could opt in
wireless or whatever features - ex:
http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/business-solutions/hp-laserjet-p2035-printer-ce461a-aba

Epson products are also on my table, however people save 100$ to complain
later and drop the product in 5 years. I've been using Epson needle printer
since 1996 and HP LJ 5L since 2001. I hope I can use them another 5-10y.

regards

Re: [OT] sobre monitoring

[Cristian Mitchell]

El 7 de marzo de 2016, 11:46, Alba Ferri escribió:

> Hola lista,
>
> Mando esta consulta como OT porque no es algo de debian especificamente,
> pero como he visto que a veces se pregunta por temas relacionados con
> monitorizacion (nagios), queria preguntaros si sabeis si existe alguna
> lista en español donde se trate el tema...
> si no es así (que creo que no) que canales/webs/foros soleis usar?
>
> Gracias!
>
> Alba.
>

Alba

El tema de monitoreo consta de dos parte la primera
es la instalación y configuración
esa es la parte estandard
la segunda es la mas compleja por que depende de lógica análisis e
imaginación
para diseñar un esquema de análisis que de seguridad de respuesta y
monitoreo de lo que se necesita

en mi experiencia o lees sobre el tema y consultas en este tipo de listas
o si es muy importante contratas a una persona para hacerlo


-- 
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Linux user number 412793.
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las grandes obras,
las sueñan los santos locos,
las realizan los luchadores natos,
las aprovechan los felices cuerdo,
y las critican los inútiles crónicos,

Re: Résiliation

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 17:59:34 +0100,
Haricophile  a écrit :

> Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:48:14 +0100,
> Christophe M  a écrit :
> 
> > Bonsoir
> > 
> > Merci de me désabonner définitivement du forum
> > 
> > Cordialement  
> 
> Je suggère de consulter les en-têtes du message ou la page appropriée.
> 

bonjour,

voici la solution :

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+user+french+unsubscribe=1

slt
bernard

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Jarle Aase]

Thanks for all the hints and suggestions.

I have still not got the printing to work, but the scanner successfully 
sends the scans to my FTP server 
(https://sourceforge.net/projects/wfde/). That's kind of cool :) The 
scan quality is fine. I actually like this device. I'll see if I get it 
to print later this week. Tomorrow my dog is having an operation, and I 
have some code to deliver.


jgaa

Re: Résiliation

[Haricophile]

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:48:14 +0100,
Christophe M  a écrit :

> Bonsoir
> 
> Merci de me désabonner définitivement du forum
> 
> Cordialement

Je suggère de consulter les en-têtes du message ou la page appropriée.

-- 
haricoph...@aranha.fr 

Re: Per ajudar a l'equip de neteja de SPAM....

[rita]

Gràcies, Òscar! Ara ho entenc!

Doncs quan es tanqui el mes dono un cop de mà, que veig que només 
requereix una mica d'atenció i temps, i no coneixements que encara no 
tinc :)


Fins ben aviat!

---
rita :)

A 08/03/2016 18:52, Oscar Osta Pueyo escrigué:

Hola,
En resposta al dubte de la Rita i creant un nou fil.

Per ajudar a l'equip de neteja de SPAM és bastant senzill.

Primer de tot, necessites un usuari per editar el wiki de debian, pots
donar-te d'alta aquí
https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean?action=newaccount

Un cop tinguis l'usuari creat has d'anar a
https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean on trobaràs l'objectiu
i algunes indicacions per fer la neteja.

En resum, la idea és verificar tots els missatges per
debian-user-catalan i debian-l10-catalan un cop el mes està tancat.
Has de verificar missatge per missatge i en el cas de detectar que un
missatge és SPAM fer servir el botó de la part superior dreta del
missatge i reportar el missatge com SPAM. Un missatge es considera
SPAM si s'ha reportat 5 cops.

Llavors, un cop comprovat tots els missatges, has d'editar el wiki per
canviar en la secció de la llista i mes el següent:
1. <

Re: Résiliation

[Haricophile]

Le Tue, 8 Mar 2016 16:48:14 +0100,
Christophe M  a écrit :

> Bonsoir
> 
> Merci de me désabonner définitivement du forum
> 
> Cordialement

Je précise : Dans les entêtes des message (voir le
source...) on a entre autre :

List-Help:


donc si on clique sur le lien ou rédige un message (mailto) avec:
destinataire : debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org
sujet : help

on reçoit par retour toutes les instructions. De même on peut même en
sujet unsubscribe  

List-Unsubscribe:


ou même se réabonner

List-Subscribe:


Je précise parce que c'est la même chose pour la majorité des listes de
diffusions, en tout cas les vraies liste qui sont utilisées par les
gens du libre. C'est comme ça que fonctionnent les robots qui
s'occupent des listes.

-- 
haricoph...@aranha.fr 

Re: Fwd: KVM Bridge wlan0

[Dan Ritter]

On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 03:01:17PM -0500, Timothy Marion wrote:
> I have a laptop with an wireless adapter. I would like to run KVM with 
> virtual machines. I would like to be able to access the internet from the 
> virtual machine. Can anybody tell me how that is done using the wireless 
> adapter?



https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections

There are special instructions for wireless bridges.

-dsr-

OT Diagnóstico de red

[Paynalton]

Hola, Me pidieron que preguntara acá en la lista si alguno de ustedes
puede hacer un dagnóstico de red. Es para una sucursal con unas 50
maquinas que actualmente está teniendo problemas de conectividad.

La pregunta es quien puede ir a esta sucursal en la zona industrial
Vallejo, Ciudad de México, y cuanto nos cobraría por hacer el
diagnóstico.


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Per ajudar a l'equip de neteja de SPAM....

[Oscar Osta Pueyo]

Hola,
En resposta al dubte de la Rita i creant un nou fil.

Per ajudar a l'equip de neteja de SPAM és bastant senzill.

Primer de tot, necessites un usuari per editar el wiki de debian, pots
donar-te d'alta aquí
https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean?action=newaccount

Un cop tinguis l'usuari creat has d'anar a
https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean on trobaràs l'objectiu i
algunes indicacions per fer la neteja.

En resum, la idea és verificar tots els missatges per debian-user-catalan i
debian-l10-catalan un cop el mes està tancat. Has de verificar missatge per
missatge i en el cas de detectar que un missatge és SPAM fer servir el botó
de la part superior dreta del missatge i reportar el missatge com SPAM. Un
missatge es considera SPAM si s'ha reportat 5 cops.

Llavors, un cop comprovat tots els missatges, has d'editar el wiki per
canviar en la secció de la llista i mes el següent:
1. <

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[John Tsiombikas]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:34:53PM +0200, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>  Τα θέματα που με καίνε είναι τα εξής μέχρι στιγμής:
> 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη διανομή μου
> (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)

Ti ennoeis commercial? Den se endiaferei an einai commercial to
programma, to licnese tou se endiaferei kai an epitrepei anadianomi. Ola
ta anothen pou eipes epitrepoun anadianomi, alla to skype den einai free
software, kati pou tha rotiseis ton eayto sou an se apasxolei i oxi. To
debian giayto to logo den to symperilambanei sto main repo tou.

> 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945

Des to license tou.

> 3) Ati Graphic Firmware

Des to license tou.

> 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του Mate ktl

Des to license tou.

> με τιμή,

Me kourasi.

-- 
John Tsiombikas
http://nuclear.mutantstargoat.com/

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[John Tsiombikas]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 04:54:59PM +0200, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> Το Mate όμως; Θεωρείται ξεχωριστό ή μέρος του Debian; Γιατί κατά την
> εγκατάσταση το έβαλα, δε το έβαλα μετά με package manager...

Den xreiazetai na einai meros tou debian gia na exeis dikaioma na to
anadianymeis. To license tou mate tha sou pei an exeis dikaioma na to
anadianymeis kai ypo poious orous. Panta to license tou ekastote
programmatos tha koitas.

P.S. Don't top-post.

-- 
John Tsiombikas
http://nuclear.mutantstargoat.com/

Re: [OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:23:43 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

> El 08/03/16 a las 14:15, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

>>> Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
>>> compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento.
>>> Esperemos que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
>>> independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.
>>
>> Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y
>> Firefox.
>> Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5,
>> así que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?
>>
>> https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081
>>
> Bueno, acabo de probarlo en Firefox bajo Manjaro y quiso funcionar pero
> al final dice que sólo es compatible con las versiones oficiales de
> Mozzila y no por compilaciones que no sean de Mozilla, algo que no
> entiendo puesto que se supone que las comunidades que ofrecen la última
> versión como ser las de Ubuntu y Arch, por ejemplo, compilan a partir de
> las fuentes oficiales, entonces la compatibilidad debería estar
> solucionada. Cosas extrañas que pasan en el mundo del software.

Ah, pues mira qué bien, si funciona en Firefox ya no hay excusa ;-D

¿Has probado a cambiar el "user-agent"? Quizá sólo se trate de una 
tontuna.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: [OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 08/03/16 a las 14:15, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:09:01 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:


El 08/03/16 a las 13:55, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


P.S. ¿Y qué le pasa a Netflix, no admite Firefox?

Saludos,


Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento. Esperemos
que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.


Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y Firefox.
Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5, así
que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?

https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081

Saludos,

Bueno, acabo de probarlo en Firefox bajo Manjaro y quiso funcionar pero 
al final dice que sólo es compatible con las versiones oficiales de 
Mozzila y no por compilaciones que no sean de Mozilla, algo que no 
entiendo puesto que se supone que las comunidades que ofrecen la última 
versión como ser las de Ubuntu y Arch, por ejemplo, compilan a partir de 
las fuentes oficiales, entonces la compatibilidad debería estar 
solucionada. Cosas extrañas que pasan en el mundo del software.


Saludos

--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 17:13:58 +, Brian wrote:

> On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 11:32:25 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> > I've been using Brother printers, laser versions, for several years now, 
> > and as long as I use the name I gave it in the cups configs, they Just 
> > Work(TM).  They are, or cups is, case sensitive.  The color laser has

I managed to delete my own message when I snipped the rest of your post. :(

Queue names are case-insensitive. Please see lpadmin(8). 

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Kostas Iliadis]

Σχετικα με το Mate έχω βάλει τα δικά μου εικονίδια αντικαθιστώντας του Mate
με αποτέλεσμα το εικονίδιο πάνω πάνω αριστερά να έχει αλλάξει καθώς και το
εικονίδιο στο About. Αυτά εννοώ αν θα έχω πρόβλημα...

Βαγγέλη μαζί μιλάμε στο irc στο κανάλι του Mate? :)

Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 5:58 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Vangelis Mouhtsis <
vange...@gnugr.org> έγραψε:

> Γιά περισσότερες πληροφορίες θα μπορούσες να ρωτήσεις στο
> #debian-derivatives on irc.oftc.net
> Το MATE ναι είναι πλέον μέρος του Debian και ναι μερικά πακέτα είναι
> DFSG. Άνετα όμως μπορείς να το θέσεις σαν default DE.
>
> Greets
> Βαγγέλης Μουχτσής
>
>
> On 08/03/2016 05:06 μμ, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> > Θα μπω να το ψάξω σ'ευχαριστώ πολύ... Αν κάποιος άλλος έχει περισσότερες
> > πληροφορίες ας απαντήσει...
> >
> > Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
> > > έγραψε:
> >
> > Το Mate θεώρησέ το και αυτό ένα πακέτο που φυσικά έχει κοινότητα και
> > lisence
> >
> >
> > On 03/08/2016 03:54 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> >> Το Mate όμως; Θεωρείται ξεχωριστό ή μέρος του Debian; Γιατί κατά
> >> την εγκατάσταση το έβαλα, δε το έβαλα μετά με package manager...
> >>
> >> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:50 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
> >> <john.pro...@gmail.com
> >> > έγραψε:
> >>
> >> To debian δεν έχει κάποιο θέμα αν το κόψεις-ράψεις-κτλ
> >> (
> https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/),
> >> όσο για τα πακέτα που θα του προσθέσεις θα πρέπει να το δεις
> >> για το καθένα ξεχωριστά.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/08/2016 03:47 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> >>> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα
> >>> μετά. Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το
> >>> Debian. Υπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου
> >>> κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
> >>>
> >>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:44 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Kostas Iliadis
> >>> > έγραψε:
> >>>
> >>> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω
> >>> τα μετά. Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με
> >>> κυνηγάει το DebianΥπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού;
> >>> Υπάρχει κάπου κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
> >>>
> >>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 3:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
> >>> <john.pro...@gmail.com
> >>> > έγραψε:
> >>>
> >>> "Εις άτοπον απαγωγή", άρχισε να το φτιάχνεις και να
> >>> βάζεις και αν κάποιος σου παραπονεθεί το αφαιρείς ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 03/08/2016 12:34 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>  Καλησπέρα σας,
> 
>  Eδώ και καιρό προσπαθώ να
>  φτιάξω τη δική μου linux διανομή βασισμένη στο
>  Debian και έχω συναντήσει κάποιες δυσκολίες σχετικά
>  με το software που μπορώ να περιλάβω. Αυτό
>  περιλαμβάνει από προγράμματα χρήσης υπολογιστή
>  ,firmwares, μέχρι και customization.
>  Θα μπορούσα να μάθω από
>  κάπου  για το τι μπορώ να περιλάβω , αν μπορώ να
>  περιλάβω κάτι με κάποια σχετική άδεια και πως
>  γίνεται αυτό , μέχρι και το τελικό στάδιο του
>  publishing με όλες τις λεπτομέρειες που χρειάζονται
>  και δε τις ξέρω εγώ;
>   Τα θέματα που με καίνε
>  είναι τα εξής μέχρι στιγμής:
>  1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη
>  διανομή μου (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
>  2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
>  3) Ati Graphic Firmware
>  4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του
>  Mate ktl
> 
> 
>  Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
> 
>  με τιμή,
> 
>  Ηλιάδης Κωνσταντίνος
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

[OT] Netflix (era: Problemas al actualizar chrome)

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 14:09:01 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

> El 08/03/16 a las 13:55, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

>> P.S. ¿Y qué le pasa a Netflix, no admite Firefox?
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
> Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la
> compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento. Esperemos
> que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos
> independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.

Por aquí¹ dice que trabaja con Safari o IE/Edge, Chrome, Opera y Firefox. 
Quizá el problema sólo sea en linux pero pensaba que ya usaba html5, así 
que no sé de qué biblioteca se debe tratar :-?

https://help.netflix.com/es-es/node/30081

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 11:32:25 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

> I've been using Brother printers, laser versions, for several years now, 
> and as long as I use the name I gave it in the cups configs, they Just 
> Work(TM).  They are, or cups is, case sensitive.  The color laser has 

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Re: Problemas al actualizar chrome

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 08/03/16 a las 13:55, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:47:35 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:


El 08/03/16 a las 12:04, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


Parece que Google ha dejado de dar soporte a la arquitectura i386.
Está paasando en todas las distribuciones.


No me lo podía creer pero es totalmente cierto:

https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/
FoE6sL-p6oU


(...)


Esta gente está loca perdida, no puedo decir otra cosa. Primero elimina
la opción de ejecutar Java, y ahora esto :-(

Espero que Chromium siga compilando binarios para 32 bits.



Por mí que se hagan una enema con Google Chrome, sólo lo uso para Ver
Netflix. Para todo lo demás está Firefox.


Y esa la parte positiva, que más gente se pasará a Firefox. La locura de
unos es la bendición de otros :-)

P.S. ¿Y qué le pasa a Netflix, no admite Firefox?

Saludos,

Netflix usa una librería privativa que la compró Google pero aún no la 
compró Mozilla así que no funciona en Firefox por el momento. Esperemos
que la gente de Mozilla compre la bendita librería así nos 
independizamos de Google Chrome para siempre.


Saludos

--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 16:55:52 +0200, Jarle Aase wrote:

> Den 08. mars 2016 14:02, skrev Brian:
> >
> >>I am very skeptical to installing 3rd party deb packages from hardware
> >>vendors. I don't think they have quite the same focus on security that I
> >>have. Basically, if a network printer require proprietary drivers to work -
> >>then it is broken by design. I have used lpd + postscript for around 20
> >
> >You are not bothered about the security of the closed source firmware on
> >the printer but are concerned about a closed source driver on the PC/
>
> My printer does not sign code or certificates. My PC does :)
> 
> It would be unfortunate if my printer participated in a bot-net. Or acted as
> a gateway for attacks against my PC's. It would be a disaster if my gpg key
> or other certs were used to sign male-ware, or if back-doors was injected in
> my code base.

Fair enough; we'll go for completely free software. 
 
> >Theoretically, a Generic PCL or PostScript PPD could be used with this
> >printer. You'd lose its specific printer options of course.
> 
> That's what I am trying to do.

 lpadmin -p myprinter -v socket:// -E -o printer-is-shared -m 
drv:///sample.drv/generpcl.ppd

Or

 lpadmin -p myprinter -v socket:// -E -o printer-is-shared -m 
drv:///sample.drv/generic.ppd

Or delete the two *cupsFilter: lines in the Brother PPD and

 lpadmin -p myprinter -v socket:// -E -o printer-is-shared -P 


You'll be looking at error_logs if there are problems.

Re: jessie backports letsencrypt

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2016-03-08, Michael Bonert  wrote:
> Has any one managed to installed 'letsencrypt' on jessie?
>
> I note that there are a few bugs... saying it will be available in a week
> or so -- a couple of weeks ago.
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809018
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805027
>
> (I have the sense that it is stuck in a dependency jungle at the moment.)
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> -
> What I get when I try installing it:
>
>   apt-get install letsencrypt
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   letsencrypt : Depends: python-letsencrypt (= 0.4.1-1~bpo8+1) but it  
> is not going to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
>   apt-get install python-letsencrypt
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   python-letsencrypt : Depends: python-acme (>= 0.4.1) but it is not  
> going to be installed
>Depends: python-cryptography (>= 0.7) but  
> 0.6.1-1 is to be installed
>Recommends: letsencrypt but it is not going to  
> be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>
>
>   apt-get install python-acme
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   python-acme : Depends: python-openssl (>= 0.15) but 0.14-1 is to be 
> installed
> Depends: python-cryptography (>= 0.8) but 0.6.1-1 is  
> to be installed
> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

The usual invocation for jessie backports should work:

apt-get install -t jessie-backports letsencrypt

-- 

Liam

Re: Problemas al actualizar chrome

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 12:47:35 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

> El 08/03/16 a las 12:04, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

>>> Parece que Google ha dejado de dar soporte a la arquitectura i386.
>>> Está paasando en todas las distribuciones.
>>
>> No me lo podía creer pero es totalmente cierto:
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/
>> FoE6sL-p6oU

(...)

>> Esta gente está loca perdida, no puedo decir otra cosa. Primero elimina
>> la opción de ejecutar Java, y ahora esto :-(
>>
>> Espero que Chromium siga compilando binarios para 32 bits.
>>
>>
> Por mí que se hagan una enema con Google Chrome, sólo lo uso para Ver
> Netflix. Para todo lo demás está Firefox.

Y esa la parte positiva, que más gente se pasará a Firefox. La locura de 
unos es la bendición de otros :-)

P.S. ¿Y qué le pasa a Netflix, no admite Firefox?

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 08 March 2016 10:17:54 Ron Leach wrote:

> On 08/03/2016 14:56, Jarle Aase wrote:
> > The printer display says that it is receiving data. Then nothing
> > happens. So the comm-link is OK.
>
> I had a Brother MFC around 6 years ago and remember having difficulty
> setting it up.  In the end, if I remember correctly, the issue was
> that the printer would only print from a queue with a specific name.
> It may have been " _binary ", or something.
>
> I found that out on some web site or other, and might have been
> Brother's own support site for its Linux driver.  I am sorry I have no
> more-specific details.
>
> I could understand that Brother might keep using the same codebase for
> its Linux support of each new printer, perhaps just tweaking some or
> other details and, if the case, then the issue about Brother printers
> requiring some specific queue name might still exist.
>
> Have you seen anything about this?
>
> regards, Ron

I've been using Brother printers, laser versions, for several years now, 
and as long as I use the name I gave it in the cups configs, they Just 
Work(TM).  They are, or cups is, case sensitive.  The color laser has 
both usb, cat5, and wireless capability.  Wireless is disabled foir 
security reasons, but the other two interfaces are interchangeable by 
changing the printers "cups name" as cups thinks its 2 printers, one 
with a usb interace and one with a cat5, addressed on my local home 
coyote.den network.  The network interface is noticeably faster than the 
USB as its a USB2.0 max data rate.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: streamming de video en Debian

[Paynalton]

Actualmente estoy usando VLC para streaming de unas cámaras de
vigilancia.

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El mar, 08-03-2016 a las 12:14 -0300, Amid Ale escribió:
> (ese formato...)
> 
> yo le saco el formato, no se que pasa.
> 
> 
> Muchas gracias
> 
> 
> 
> El 8 de marzo de 2016, 12:07, Camaleón  escribió:
> 
> El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:52:40 -0300, Amid Ale escribió:
> 
> (ese formato...)
> 
> > Quisiera consultar si alguien tiene alguna experiencia en
> algún sistema
> > para encodear video para transmisión en vivo bajo Debian en
> forma
> > profecional o semiprofesional. Me gustaría también si
> alguien me puede
> > recomendar algún servidor de streamming comercial que me
> permita tener
> > un número importante de clientes.
> 
> Para "encodear" no sé... para "codificar" sí que se ha hablado
> en esta
> lista alguna que otra vez. Puedes buscar en su archivo:
> 
> 
> https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en_rd=cr,ssl#complete=0=en=streaming+video+site:lists.debian.org%2Fdebian-user-spanish
> 
> Saludos,
> 
> --
> Camaleón
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Bind aguarra no shutdown ou reboot

[Andre Luiz]

Obrigado pelo retorno Rodolfo.

Eu estou fazendo dessa forma mesmo. Mas se eu fizer isso e deixar o serviço
habilitado no systemd (systemctl enable bind9), ele demora a parar.

Estou vendo como automatizar no desligamento.

Em 8 de março de 2016 09:14, Rodolfo  escreveu:

> Bom, sinceramente nunca vi isso, mas nesse caso você pode executar em uma
> linha só:
>
> # systemctl stop bind9; systemctl poweroff(ou reboot)
>
> Qualquer coisa cria um script bash para automatizar, se eu encontrar
> qualquer informação acerca disso compartilho aqui.
>
> Em 8 de março de 2016 05:37, André  escreveu:
>
>> Bom dia amigos da lista!
>>
>> Estou tendo um problema em um servidor relatido ao bind.
>>
>> Quando eu desligo ou reinicio a máquina, o serviço fica quase 2 minutos
>> para finalizar. Mas se eu parar manualmente com um "systemctl stop bind9"
>> ele pára na hora. Confirmei que o problema era o bind desabilitando o
>> serviço no systemd antes de reiniciar ou desligar.
>>
>> Não encontrei nada nos logs e na web. Em um fórum, recomendaram comentar
>> uma linha no arquivo /etc/network/if-down.d/bind9, mas não funcionou. Já
>> tentei também executar um "sync" antes de reiniciar, mas não resolveu.
>>
>> Como workaround, desabilitei o bind9 no systemd e adicionei no rc.local
>> para subir no boot, mas não creio que seja o ideal.
>>
>> Agradeço qualquer ajuda. Obrigado!
>>
>> --
>> André 
>>
>>
>

Re: binary-i386 packages missing in Release file

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 08 March 2016 10:07:35 Haines Brown wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 12:46:14PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > > It sounds as though your Jessie is being identified as Wheezy.
> > > > > You get that warning with Wheezy, even if it is 64bit Wheezy
> > > > > with 64bit Google-Chrome. Presumably because Google hasn't
> > > > > written a string of different error messages for the various
> > > > > different things it has just stopped supporting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why Jessie is being identified as Wheezy is another question.
> > > > > Is there any reason why you might get identified as Ubuntu
> > > > > 12.04?  Another of the things that has just dropped off
> > > > > Google's cliff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lisi
> > > >
> > > > Lisi, I have to make a confession. The machine is actually
> > > > running devuan Jessie. That is probably the reason.
> > >
> > > Glad we have solved the mystery - though sadly not your problem.
> > > :-(
> >
> > A potential solution to the problem would be Jessie proper, but
> > without systemd.  It seems to work rather well, in fact, from what
> > people doing so say.  I am about to cross my fingers and try it
> > myself.
> > Lisi
>
> In thinking about it, I'm not sure now if I installed the devuan ISO
> or debian Jessie and then removed systemd. As I tell my wife, I always
> am thinking about higher things! How would I know at this point which
> I did?
>
> Haines

Whether you can get away with that depends on the age of the wet ram, I 
have reached that age (81) where I can recall stuff I did in the '60's, 
but not what, if anything, I had for breakfast for breakfast this 
morning, it takes 2 to 3 cups of caffiene before I can claim to even be 
awake.  That means 2 more before I'm safe around machinery. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 08 March 2016 09:56:57 Jarle Aase wrote:

> Den 08. mars 2016 15:39, skrev Dutch Ingraham:
> > When networked printers "print" without errors and without actually
> > printing, it could be your firewall blocking.
>
> The printer display says that it is receiving data. Then nothing
> happens. So the comm-link is OK.
>
> Jarle

I have encountered in past lives, printers that needed a final form feed, 
chr$(12) before they would print the buffer.

I do not know if that includes the Brother MF stuff, but I have 2 of 
their HL series laser printers here, and both work well using the 
driver/wrappers and ppd's suplied by Brother for use with cups and have 
worked well for several years now.

They don't call home, and they Just Work(TM).

However a recent nearly 8 hour power outage caused by a 200 yo tree 
falling off the mountain in an ice forming storm, onto a main circuit 
coming into town, did disclose that having a standby generator with a 5 
or 6 second response time can put the color laser at least, into an 
unusable state which a printer panel power cycle will not reset. It must 
have the power cord pulled for long enough to move it to a different 
pluggin in my system here in the coyotes.den. I did have it straight 
into the wall, and moved it to a different plug that has a very high 
rated, 5 kilojoules IIRC, surge arrester behind the plug.  And 
amazingly, that longer powerdown, probably over a minute because the 
cord was so entangled in the midden heap here (its been collecting for 
26 years now :), apparently fixed it.

Your trivia factoid re Brother printers for the day ;-)  If all else 
fails, do a prolonged, power cord unplugged, reset.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: squid

[Paynalton]

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El mar, 08-03-2016 a las 15:41 +0100, fernando sainz escribió:

> El día 8 de marzo de 2016, 15:19, Jose  escribió:
> > Saludos lista bueno tengo una  duda quiero implementar  una  acl de tiempo
> > para  los estudiantes q  solo puedan  navegar después de las 6 de  la tarde
> >
> > el problema q  me esta dando es el siguiente
> >
> > #ACL navegacion estudiantes
> > acl hora_usuariosestudiantes time MTWHF 06:00-07:00
> > acl usuariosestudiantes src -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> > acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> >
> > http_access allow usuariosestudiantes hora_usuariosestudiantes
> >
> > y me esta dando el siguiente
> >
> >
> > /etc/init.d/squid3 restart
> > [] Restarting Squid HTTP Proxy 3.x: squid32016/03/03 08:20:06|
> > strtokFile: /etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes not found
> > 2016/03/03 08:20:06| Warning: empty ACL: acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth
> > -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> > 2016/03/03 08:20:06| aclParseAclList: ACL name 'usuariosstudiantes' not


Como que falta una 'E' en 'usuariosstudiantes'


> > found.
> > FATAL: Bungled squid.conf line 93: http_access allow usuariosstudiantes
> > hora_usuariosestudiantes
> > Squid Cache (Version 3.1.20): Terminated abnormally.
> > CPU Usage: 0.045 seconds = 0.044 user + 0.001 sys
> > Maximum Resident Size: 76480 KB
> > Page faults with physical i/o: 0
> >  failed!
> >
> > --
> > Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que
> > ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema
> > Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de
> > usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
> >
> > Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
> >
> 
> Mira a ver los nombres, porque parece que te falta una e en: 
> usuariosstudiantes
> 
> S2.
> 

Re: binary-i386 packages missing in Release file

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 08 March 2016 15:07:35 Haines Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 12:46:14PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > > > It sounds as though your Jessie is being identified as Wheezy.
> > > > > You get that warning with Wheezy, even if it is 64bit Wheezy
> > > > > with 64bit Google-Chrome. Presumably because Google hasn't
> > > > > written a string of different error messages for the various
> > > > > different things it has just stopped supporting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why Jessie is being identified as Wheezy is another question.
> > > > > Is there any reason why you might get identified as Ubuntu
> > > > > 12.04?  Another of the things that has just dropped off Google's
> > > > > cliff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lisi
> > > >
> > > > Lisi, I have to make a confession. The machine is actually running
> > > > devuan Jessie. That is probably the reason.
> > >
> > > Glad we have solved the mystery - though sadly not your problem. :-(
> >
> > A potential solution to the problem would be Jessie proper, but without
> > systemd.  It seems to work rather well, in fact, from what people doing
> > so say.  I am about to cross my fingers and try it myself.
> > Lisi
>
> In thinking about it, I'm not sure now if I installed the devuan ISO or
> debian Jessie and then removed systemd. As I tell my wife, I always am
> thinking about higher things! How would I know at this point which I
> did?

:-))

But if you installed Jessie proper without systemd you shouldn't be having the 
Google-Chrome problems - and we are back to square one!!

Lisi

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Vangelis Mouhtsis]

Γιά περισσότερες πληροφορίες θα μπορούσες να ρωτήσεις στο
#debian-derivatives on irc.oftc.net
Το MATE ναι είναι πλέον μέρος του Debian και ναι μερικά πακέτα είναι
DFSG. Άνετα όμως μπορείς να το θέσεις σαν default DE.

Greets
Βαγγέλης Μουχτσής


On 08/03/2016 05:06 μμ, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> Θα μπω να το ψάξω σ'ευχαριστώ πολύ... Αν κάποιος άλλος έχει περισσότερες
> πληροφορίες ας απαντήσει...
> 
> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
> > έγραψε:
> 
> Το Mate θεώρησέ το και αυτό ένα πακέτο που φυσικά έχει κοινότητα και
> lisence
> 
> 
> On 03/08/2016 03:54 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>> Το Mate όμως; Θεωρείται ξεχωριστό ή μέρος του Debian; Γιατί κατά
>> την εγκατάσταση το έβαλα, δε το έβαλα μετά με package manager...
>>
>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:50 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
>> <john.pro...@gmail.com
>> > έγραψε:
>>
>> To debian δεν έχει κάποιο θέμα αν το κόψεις-ράψεις-κτλ
>> 
>> (https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/),
>> όσο για τα πακέτα που θα του προσθέσεις θα πρέπει να το δεις
>> για το καθένα ξεχωριστά.
>>
>>
>> On 03/08/2016 03:47 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>>> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα
>>> μετά. Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το
>>> Debian. Υπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου
>>> κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
>>>
>>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:44 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Kostas Iliadis
>>> > έγραψε:
>>>
>>> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω
>>> τα μετά. Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με
>>> κυνηγάει το DebianΥπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού;
>>> Υπάρχει κάπου κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
>>>
>>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 3:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
>>> <john.pro...@gmail.com
>>> > έγραψε:
>>>
>>> "Εις άτοπον απαγωγή", άρχισε να το φτιάχνεις και να
>>> βάζεις και αν κάποιος σου παραπονεθεί το αφαιρείς ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/08/2016 12:34 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
 Καλησπέρα σας,

 Eδώ και καιρό προσπαθώ να
 φτιάξω τη δική μου linux διανομή βασισμένη στο
 Debian και έχω συναντήσει κάποιες δυσκολίες σχετικά
 με το software που μπορώ να περιλάβω. Αυτό
 περιλαμβάνει από προγράμματα χρήσης υπολογιστή
 ,firmwares, μέχρι και customization.
 Θα μπορούσα να μάθω από
 κάπου  για το τι μπορώ να περιλάβω , αν μπορώ να
 περιλάβω κάτι με κάποια σχετική άδεια και πως
 γίνεται αυτό , μέχρι και το τελικό στάδιο του
 publishing με όλες τις λεπτομέρειες που χρειάζονται
 και δε τις ξέρω εγώ;
  Τα θέματα που με καίνε
 είναι τα εξής μέχρι στιγμής:
 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη
 διανομή μου (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
 3) Ati Graphic Firmware
 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του
 Mate ktl


 Ευχαριστώ πολύ,

 με τιμή,

 Ηλιάδης Κωνσταντίνος
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
> 



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Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 14:35:22 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:29:11PM +, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 12:36:56 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 12:02:14PM +, Brian wrote:
> > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > You are not bothered about the security of the closed source firmware on
> > > > the printer but are concerned about a closed source driver on the PC/
> > > 
> > > This is the usual dangerous strawman which leads, at the end, to do
> > > nothing [...]
> 
> > I asked a question, one which may give pause for thought and give focus
> > and direction to what is presumably the chief objective - printing with
> > a Brother MFC printer. No argument (strawman or otherwise) was given; no
> > view advanced. No Brother bashing. :)
> 
> Perhaps I'm a little dense, but I have a hard time reading your question
> differently than "why you agonize about a non free driver if the whole
> firmware of your printer is non-free"?
> 
> But I'm always interested in learning.

Yes, it's the same question - expressed differently. It's still not a
formulated argument and merely expresses curiosity on my part. My
curiosity is satisfied by

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00297.html

Résiliation

[Christophe M]

Bonsoir

Merci de me désabonner définitivement du forum

Cordialement

Re: Problemas al actualizar chrome

[Sergio Bessopeanetto]

El 08/03/16 a las 12:04, Camaleón escribió:

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:58:27 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:


El 07/03/16 a las 23:34, Omar Pacheco escribió:

Buenas noches lista,

Tengo instalado tanto en debian(8.3) como en ubunto(14.04) el navegador
google chrome, esta noche al intentar actualizar ambos sistemas me
encontré con este mensaje:


W: Imposible obtener
http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  No se pudo
encontrar la entrada esperada «main/binary-i386/Packages» en el archivo
Release (entrada incorrecta en sources.list o archivo mal formado)

E: Algunos archivos de índice fallaron al descargar. Se han ignorado,
o se han utilizado unos antiguos en su lugar


(...)


Parece que Google ha dejado de dar soporte a la arquitectura i386.
Está paasando en todas las distribuciones.


No me lo podía creer pero es totalmente cierto:

https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/FoE6sL-p6oU

***
Hi Everyone,

To provide the best experience for the most-used Linux versions, we will
end support for Google Chrome on 32-bit Linux, Ubuntu Precise (12.04),
and Debian 7 (wheezy) in early March, 2016.  Chrome will continue to
function on these platforms but will no longer receive updates and
security fixes.

We intend to continue supporting the 32-bit build configurations on Linux
to support building Chromium. If you are using Precise, we’d recommend
that you to upgrade to Trusty.

Kind Regards,

-- Dirk
***

Esta gente está loca perdida, no puedo decir otra cosa. Primero elimina
la opción de ejecutar Java, y ahora esto :-(

Espero que Chromium siga compilando binarios para 32 bits.

Saludos,

Por mí que se hagan una enema con Google Chrome, sólo lo uso para Ver 
Netflix. Para todo lo demás está Firefox.


--
Sergio Bessopeanetto
Buenos Aires - Argentina

Re: Bateria de Testes/Teste de Stress

[Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA , Leandro]

2016-03-08 8:49 GMT-03:00 Paulo Correia :
>
> Alguém conhece algum programa que faça uma bateria de testes (Testes de
> Stress) ?
> Se alguém souber de um teste de performance, agradeço.
> Poderiam indicar os nomes e onde baixá-los ?

De desempenho, tem o da AnandTech?


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Re: Quelques applis bloquée sur un lien 4G [RESOLU]

[Olivier]

Bonjour,

Sur une autre liste, plusieurs personnes m'ont indiqué que le pb que je
rencontrait provenait probablement d'un pb de MTU.

L'adresse www.google.com étant résolue en 64.233.166.104, j'ai saisi les
commandes :
#ping -c1 -M do -s 1272 64.233.166.104
PING 64.233.166.104 (64.233.166.104) 1272(1300) bytes of data.
72 bytes from 64.233.166.104: icmp_req=1 ttl=41 (truncated)

--- 64.233.166.104 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 52.260/52.260/52.260/0.000 ms
# ping -c1 -M do -s 1273 64.233.166.104
PING 64.233.166.104 (64.233.166.104) 1273(1301) bytes of data.

--- 64.233.166.104 ping statistics ---
1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms

J'en ai déduis que le MTU était de 1272+28=1300 sur un lien 4G Bouygues.

En appliquant bestialement, la commande ci-après, les commandes qui
échouaient, ont fonctionné.
ip link set eth0 mtu 1300


J'ai passé beaucoup de temps, pour monter dans mon labo, une plate-forme
reproduisant le pb.
Je n'ai pas réussi à reproduire le pb.
Le lien [1] suggère que le pb est peut être lié à un firewall qui écarte
les paquets fragmentés.
Comme ma plate-forme de test ne comportant pas de firewall, ceci explique
peut-être pourquoi je n'arrive pas à reproduire le pb.


[1] http://www.snailbook.com/faq/mtu-mismatch.auto.html

Merci à tous pour vos aides.


Le 4 mars 2016 à 07:13, Josh  a écrit :

> On 03/03/2016 17:51, Olivier wrote:
> > En anticipant que l'origine du blocage serait un MTU incorrect, j'ai
> > cherché à déterminer celui-ci avant la commande ci-après:
> > ping -c1 -M do -s 1272 194.158.122.10
> > où 194.158.122.10 est l'adresse du serveur DNS de Bouygues.
> >
> > Au delà de 1272, j'ai:
> > PING 194.158.122.10 (194.158.122.10) 1273(1301) bytes of data.
> >
> > --- 194.158.122.10 ping statistics ---
> > 1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms
> >
> >
> >
> > Avec 1272 et en deçà, j'ai:
> > PING 194.158.122.10 (194.158.122.10) 1272(1300) bytes of data.
> > 1280 bytes from 194.158.122.10: icmp_req=1 ttl=244 time=55.1 ms
> >
> > --- 194.158.122.10 ping statistics ---
> > 1 packets transmitted, 1 received, 0% packet loss, time 0ms
> > rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 55.123/55.123/55.123/0.000 ms
> >
> >
> > Que penser de tout ça ?
> >
> > Le 3 mars 2016 à 16:37, Olivier  a écrit :
> >
>
> Lu,
>
> Que c'est très moche de ne pas renvoyer le paquet icmp erreur
> "fragmentation needed and DF set" ? :-)
> Pourquoi, je n'en sais rien par contre. Bonne question ?
> A moins que ça vienne de chez toi/que tu filtres icmp ?
>
> Il faut aller voir du coté des options --mssfix et --fragment d'open-vpn
> pour l'empêcher de transmettre des paquets qui seraient supérieur au mtu
> du/des routeurs qui posent soucis (en restant abusivement silencieux, ne
> lui permettant pas de découvrir le mtu max et d'ajuster ses datagrams
> udp en fonction de celui ci).
>
> --mssfix devrait être particulièrement utile pour ssh (et tcp en général).
>
> Sinon, éventuellement passer open-vpn sur tcp à la place d'udp.
>
> --
> Josh
>
>

Re: jessie backports letsencrypt

[Dan Ritter]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:50:16AM -0500, Michael Bonert wrote:
> Has any one managed to installed 'letsencrypt' on jessie?
> 

Well, I *use* lets encrypt on jessie and wheezy, but not via
the official client.

I use https://github.com/diafygi/acme-tiny and a very little bit
of shell and cron around that to create and renew SSL certs.

The dependencies boil down to python and openssl, both of which
you presumably already have.

-dsr-

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Stefan Monnier]

FWIW, I stick to printers whose drivers are right there in Debian.
That saves me work and that lets me put my money where mouth is.
Maybe it's not too late to return your printer?


Stefan

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Ron Leach]

On 08/03/2016 14:56, Jarle Aase wrote:



The printer display says that it is receiving data. Then nothing
happens. So the comm-link is OK.



I had a Brother MFC around 6 years ago and remember having difficulty 
setting it up.  In the end, if I remember correctly, the issue was 
that the printer would only print from a queue with a specific name. 
It may have been " _binary ", or something.


I found that out on some web site or other, and might have been 
Brother's own support site for its Linux driver.  I am sorry I have no 
more-specific details.


I could understand that Brother might keep using the same codebase for 
its Linux support of each new printer, perhaps just tweaking some or 
other details and, if the case, then the issue about Brother printers 
requiring some specific queue name might still exist.


Have you seen anything about this?

regards, Ron

Re: squid

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:19:58 -0500, Jose escribió:

> Saludos lista bueno tengo una  duda quiero implementar  una  acl de 
> tiempo para  los estudiantes q  solo puedan  navegar después de las 6 
> de  la tarde
> 
> el problema q  me esta dando es el siguiente
> 
> #ACL navegacion estudiantes
> acl hora_usuariosestudiantes time MTWHF 06:00-07:00
> acl usuariosestudiantes src -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> 
> http_access allow usuariosestudiantes hora_usuariosestudiantes
> 
> y me esta dando el siguiente
> 
> 
> /etc/init.d/squid3 restart
> [] Restarting Squid HTTP Proxy 3.x: squid3
> 2016/03/03 08:20:06| strtokFile: /etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes not 
> found
   

Dice que ese archivo no existe, mira a ver si te dice la verdad o tiene 
algún problema de acceso a esa ruta (p. ej., si se está ejecutando squid 
enjaulado).

> 2016/03/03 08:20:06| Warning: empty ACL: acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth 
> -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"

Dice quee stá vacío, en blanco, seguramente por el error de arriba.

> 2016/03/03 08:20:06| aclParseAclList: ACL name 'usuariosstudiantes' not found.
  ^^

Si has copiado/pegado los datos que has puesto arriba no sé de dónde saca 
squid ese nombre de ACL. Busca en el archivo de configuración ese nombre
a ver si te saca alguna coincidencia.

> FATAL: Bungled squid.conf line 93: http_access allow usuariosstudiantes 
> hora_usuariosestudiantes
   ^^

(...)

Bueno, entiendo que este error estará relacionado con la línea 
inmediatamente superior.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: streamming de video en Debian

[Amid Ale]

(ese formato...)

yo le saco el formato, no se que pasa.
Muchas gracias

El 8 de marzo de 2016, 12:07, Camaleón  escribió:

> El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:52:40 -0300, Amid Ale escribió:
>
> (ese formato...)
>
> > Quisiera consultar si alguien tiene alguna experiencia en algún sistema
> > para encodear video para transmisión en vivo bajo Debian en forma
> > profecional o semiprofesional. Me gustaría también si alguien me puede
> > recomendar algún servidor de streamming comercial que me permita tener
> > un número importante de clientes.
>
> Para "encodear" no sé... para "codificar" sí que se ha hablado en esta
> lista alguna que otra vez. Puedes buscar en su archivo:
>
>
> https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en_rd=cr,ssl#complete=0=en=streaming+video+site:lists.debian.org%2Fdebian-user-spanish
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

Re: streamming de video en Debian

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 09:52:40 -0300, Amid Ale escribió:

(ese formato...)

> Quisiera consultar si alguien tiene alguna experiencia en algún sistema
> para encodear video para transmisión en vivo bajo Debian en forma
> profecional o semiprofesional. Me gustaría también si alguien me puede
> recomendar algún servidor de streamming comercial que me permita tener
> un número importante de clientes.

Para "encodear" no sé... para "codificar" sí que se ha hablado en esta 
lista alguna que otra vez. Puedes buscar en su archivo:

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en_rd=cr,ssl#complete=0=en=streaming+video+site:lists.debian.org%2Fdebian-user-spanish

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: binary-i386 packages missing in Release file

[Haines Brown]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 12:46:14PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> > > > It sounds as though your Jessie is being identified as Wheezy.
> > > > You get that warning with Wheezy, even if it is 64bit Wheezy
> > > > with 64bit Google-Chrome. Presumably because Google hasn't
> > > > written a string of different error messages for the various
> > > > different things it has just stopped supporting.
> > > >
> > > > Why Jessie is being identified as Wheezy is another question.
> > > > Is there any reason why you might get identified as Ubuntu
> > > > 12.04?  Another of the things that has just dropped off Google's
> > > > cliff.
> > > >
> > > > Lisi
> > >
> > > Lisi, I have to make a confession. The machine is actually running
> > > devuan Jessie. That is probably the reason.
> >
> > Glad we have solved the mystery - though sadly not your problem. :-(
> 
> A potential solution to the problem would be Jessie proper, but without 
> systemd.  It seems to work rather well, in fact, from what people doing so 
> say.  I am about to cross my fingers and try it myself.
> Lisi

In thinking about it, I'm not sure now if I installed the devuan ISO or
debian Jessie and then removed systemd. As I tell my wife, I always am
thinking about higher things! How would I know at this point which I
did?

Haines

Re: Problemas al actualizar chrome

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 08 Mar 2016 07:58:27 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

> El 07/03/16 a las 23:34, Omar Pacheco escribió:
>> Buenas noches lista,
>>
>> Tengo instalado tanto en debian(8.3) como en ubunto(14.04) el navegador
>> google chrome, esta noche al intentar actualizar ambos sistemas me
>> encontré con este mensaje:
>>
>>
>> W: Imposible obtener
>> http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  No se pudo
>> encontrar la entrada esperada «main/binary-i386/Packages» en el archivo
>> Release (entrada incorrecta en sources.list o archivo mal formado)
>>
>> E: Algunos archivos de índice fallaron al descargar. Se han ignorado,
>> o se han utilizado unos antiguos en su lugar

(...)

> Parece que Google ha dejado de dar soporte a la arquitectura i386.
> Está paasando en todas las distribuciones.

No me lo podía creer pero es totalmente cierto:

https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/chromium-dev/FoE6sL-p6oU

***
Hi Everyone,

To provide the best experience for the most-used Linux versions, we will 
end support for Google Chrome on 32-bit Linux, Ubuntu Precise (12.04), 
and Debian 7 (wheezy) in early March, 2016.  Chrome will continue to 
function on these platforms but will no longer receive updates and 
security fixes.

We intend to continue supporting the 32-bit build configurations on Linux 
to support building Chromium. If you are using Precise, we’d recommend 
that you to upgrade to Trusty.

Kind Regards,

-- Dirk
***

Esta gente está loca perdida, no puedo decir otra cosa. Primero elimina 
la opción de ejecutar Java, y ahora esto :-(

Espero que Chromium siga compilando binarios para 32 bits.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Ioannis Proios]

Το Mate θεώρησέ το και αυτό ένα πακέτο που φυσικά έχει κοινότητα και lisence

On 03/08/2016 03:54 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> Το Mate όμως; Θεωρείται ξεχωριστό ή μέρος του Debian; Γιατί κατά την
> εγκατάσταση το έβαλα, δε το έβαλα μετά με package manager...
>
> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:50 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
> > έγραψε:
>
> To debian δεν έχει κάποιο θέμα αν το κόψεις-ράψεις-κτλ
> (https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/), όσο για τα πακέτα που θα
> του προσθέσεις θα πρέπει να το δεις για το καθένα ξεχωριστά.
>
>
> On 03/08/2016 03:47 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα
>> μετά. Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το
>> Debian. Υπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου
>> κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
>>
>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:44 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Kostas Iliadis
>> > έγραψε:
>>
>> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα
>> μετά. Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το
>> DebianΥπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου
>> κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
>>
>> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 3:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
>> > έγραψε:
>>
>> "Εις άτοπον απαγωγή", άρχισε να το φτιάχνεις και να
>> βάζεις και αν κάποιος σου παραπονεθεί το αφαιρείς ;)
>>
>>
>> On 03/08/2016 12:34 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>>> Καλησπέρα σας,
>>>
>>> Eδώ και καιρό προσπαθώ να φτιάξω
>>> τη δική μου linux διανομή βασισμένη στο Debian και έχω
>>> συναντήσει κάποιες δυσκολίες σχετικά με το software που
>>> μπορώ να περιλάβω. Αυτό περιλαμβάνει από προγράμματα
>>> χρήσης υπολογιστή ,firmwares, μέχρι και customization.
>>> Θα μπορούσα να μάθω από κάπου
>>>  για το τι μπορώ να περιλάβω , αν μπορώ να περιλάβω κάτι
>>> με κάποια σχετική άδεια και πως γίνεται αυτό , μέχρι και
>>> το τελικό στάδιο του publishing με όλες τις λεπτομέρειες
>>> που χρειάζονται και δε τις ξέρω εγώ;
>>>  Τα θέματα που με καίνε είναι τα
>>> εξής μέχρι στιγμής:
>>> 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη
>>> διανομή μου (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
>>> 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
>>> 3) Ati Graphic Firmware
>>> 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του Mate ktl
>>>
>>>
>>> Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
>>>
>>> με τιμή,
>>>
>>> Ηλιάδης Κωνσταντίνος
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Jarle Aase]

Den 08. mars 2016 15:39, skrev Dutch Ingraham:

When networked printers "print" without errors and without actually
printing, it could be your firewall blocking.

The printer display says that it is receiving data. Then nothing 
happens. So the comm-link is OK.


Jarle

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Jarle Aase]

Den 08. mars 2016 14:02, skrev Brian:



I am very skeptical to installing 3rd party deb packages from hardware
vendors. I don't think they have quite the same focus on security that I
have. Basically, if a network printer require proprietary drivers to work -
then it is broken by design. I have used lpd + postscript for around 20

You are not bothered about the security of the closed source firmware on
the printer but are concerned about a closed source driver on the PC/

My printer does not sign code or certificates. My PC does :)

It would be unfortunate if my printer participated in a bot-net. Or 
acted as a gateway for attacks against my PC's. It would be a disaster 
if my gpg key or other certs were used to sign male-ware, or if 
back-doors was injected in my code base.


Theoretically, a Generic PCL or PostScript PPD could be used with this 
printer. You'd lose its specific printer options of course. 


That's what I am trying to do.

Jarle

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Jarle Aase]

Den 08. mars 2016 13:26, skrev deloptes:
Of course if you require high level of security you can not trust such 
binaries, but if you are at this level of security I do not think you 
will be working at the computer that much or at least use such kind of 
hardware. In such case it is best to use analog equipment or PC in 
closed network. You still have choice(s). regards 


Many years ago, when I was CTO (function, not title) at a small company, 
the developers had two PC's, one connected to the Internet, and one 
connected only to an internal development network. Binaries was burned 
to CD and then given to customers, or copied to our web servers. 
Eventually it became too hard to keep the development on a closed 
system. More and more of the development tools expected an Internet 
connection. At that time we made most of the revenue making software 
that ran on Windows.


Today I miss the feeling of security I had back then. It would be very, 
very hard for an adversary to penetrate the closed network and 
compromise the software we delivered. I assume that a determined 
adversary can penetrate my current defenses relatively easy. There are 
so many layers of potential vulnerable firmware and software between the 
network plug and my file systems and system memory that any other 
assumptions would be rather naive. Still, I try to defend my code, my 
privacy and my intellectual property as good as I can. Not running 
java-script outside disposable virtual machines is one line of defense. 
Not running alien shell scripts or drivers from untrusted sources is 
another. It does not make my system safe - but it makes it less likely 
at least to be penetrated by the most clueless script-kiddies or 
automated bots.


And frankly, it makes no sense to me that printers require special 
drivers in order to work. The transport protocols are standardized. The 
page description protocols are standardized (or at least well known). 
Using proprietary transport or page description protocols seems just 
like a waste of development resources and support resources. It's very 
hard to make good, optimal implementations of anything slightly complex 
(it's just weeks ago another dns bug was found in glibc!). Therefore it 
should be best for everyone to refine common code to do such things as 
safe and efficient as possible. Not reinventing wheels and doing the 
same stupid mistakes over and over again. I really don't understand what 
the printer industry (this is not only a problem with Brother) is doing. 
May be it boils down to something as simple as the egos at incompetent 
product managers.


Jarle

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Ioannis Proios]

To debian δεν έχει κάποιο θέμα αν το κόψεις-ράψεις-κτλ
(https://www.debian.org/legal/licenses/), όσο για τα πακέτα που θα του
προσθέσεις θα πρέπει να το δεις για το καθένα ξεχωριστά.

On 03/08/2016 03:47 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα μετά. Μη
> κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το Debian. Υπάρχει
> κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου κάποιο Documentation να
> συμβουλευτώ;
>
> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:44 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Kostas Iliadis
> > έγραψε:
>
> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα μετά.
> Μη κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το
> DebianΥπάρχει κάποιος να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου κάποιο
> Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
>
> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 3:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios
> > έγραψε:
>
> "Εις άτοπον απαγωγή", άρχισε να το φτιάχνεις και να βάζεις και
> αν κάποιος σου παραπονεθεί το αφαιρείς ;)
>
>
> On 03/08/2016 12:34 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>> Καλησπέρα σας,
>>
>> Eδώ και καιρό προσπαθώ να φτιάξω τη
>> δική μου linux διανομή βασισμένη στο Debian και έχω
>> συναντήσει κάποιες δυσκολίες σχετικά με το software που μπορώ
>> να περιλάβω. Αυτό περιλαμβάνει από προγράμματα χρήσης
>> υπολογιστή ,firmwares, μέχρι και customization.
>> Θα μπορούσα να μάθω από κάπου  για το
>> τι μπορώ να περιλάβω , αν μπορώ να περιλάβω κάτι με κάποια
>> σχετική άδεια και πως γίνεται αυτό , μέχρι και το τελικό
>> στάδιο του publishing με όλες τις λεπτομέρειες που
>> χρειάζονται και δε τις ξέρω εγώ;
>>  Τα θέματα που με καίνε είναι τα εξής
>> μέχρι στιγμής:
>> 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη διανομή
>> μου (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
>> 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
>> 3) Ati Graphic Firmware
>> 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του Mate ktl
>>
>>
>> Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
>>
>> με τιμή,
>>
>> Ηλιάδης Κωνσταντίνος
>
>
>

Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Kostas Iliadis]

Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα μετά. Μη
κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το Debian. Υπάρχει κάποιος
να μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;

Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 4:44 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Kostas Iliadis 
έγραψε:

> Το θέμα είναι να ξέρω πριν αν βγάλω το iso ώστε ν'αποφύγω τα μετά. Μη
> κάθομαι και το ξαναφτιάχνω. Ούτε να με κυνηγάει το DebianΥπάρχει κάποιος να
> μιλήσω περί αυτού; Υπάρχει κάπου κάποιο Documentation να συμβουλευτώ;
>
> Στις 8 Μαρτίου 2016 - 3:57 μ.μ., ο χρήστης Ioannis Proios <
> john.pro...@gmail.com> έγραψε:
>
>> "Εις άτοπον απαγωγή", άρχισε να το φτιάχνεις και να βάζεις και αν κάποιος
>> σου παραπονεθεί το αφαιρείς ;)
>>
>>
>> On 03/08/2016 12:34 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
>>
>> Καλησπέρα σας,
>>
>> Eδώ και καιρό προσπαθώ να φτιάξω τη δική μου
>> linux διανομή βασισμένη στο Debian και έχω συναντήσει κάποιες δυσκολίες
>> σχετικά με το software που μπορώ να περιλάβω. Αυτό περιλαμβάνει από
>> προγράμματα χρήσης υπολογιστή ,firmwares, μέχρι και customization.
>> Θα μπορούσα να μάθω από κάπου  για το τι μπορώ να
>> περιλάβω , αν μπορώ να περιλάβω κάτι με κάποια σχετική άδεια και πως
>> γίνεται αυτό , μέχρι και το τελικό στάδιο του publishing με όλες τις
>> λεπτομέρειες που χρειάζονται και δε τις ξέρω εγώ;
>>  Τα θέματα που με καίνε είναι τα εξής μέχρι
>> στιγμής:
>> 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη διανομή μου
>> (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
>> 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
>> 3) Ati Graphic Firmware
>> 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του Mate ktl
>>
>>
>> Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
>>
>> με τιμή,
>>
>> Ηλιάδης Κωνσταντίνος
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: squid

[fernando sainz]

El día 8 de marzo de 2016, 15:19, Jose  escribió:
> Saludos lista bueno tengo una  duda quiero implementar  una  acl de tiempo
> para  los estudiantes q  solo puedan  navegar después de las 6 de  la tarde
>
> el problema q  me esta dando es el siguiente
>
> #ACL navegacion estudiantes
> acl hora_usuariosestudiantes time MTWHF 06:00-07:00
> acl usuariosestudiantes src -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
>
> http_access allow usuariosestudiantes hora_usuariosestudiantes
>
> y me esta dando el siguiente
>
>
> /etc/init.d/squid3 restart
> [] Restarting Squid HTTP Proxy 3.x: squid32016/03/03 08:20:06|
> strtokFile: /etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes not found
> 2016/03/03 08:20:06| Warning: empty ACL: acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth
> -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
> 2016/03/03 08:20:06| aclParseAclList: ACL name 'usuariosstudiantes' not
> found.
> FATAL: Bungled squid.conf line 93: http_access allow usuariosstudiantes
> hora_usuariosestudiantes
> Squid Cache (Version 3.1.20): Terminated abnormally.
> CPU Usage: 0.045 seconds = 0.044 user + 0.001 sys
> Maximum Resident Size: 76480 KB
> Page faults with physical i/o: 0
>  failed!
>
> --
> Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que
> ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema
> Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de
> usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
>
> Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
>

Mira a ver los nombres, porque parece que te falta una e en: usuariosstudiantes

S2.

squid

[Jose]

Saludos lista bueno tengo una  duda quiero implementar  una  acl de 
tiempo para  los estudiantes q  solo puedan  navegar después de las 6 
de  la tarde


el problema q  me esta dando es el siguiente

#ACL navegacion estudiantes
acl hora_usuariosestudiantes time MTWHF 06:00-07:00
acl usuariosestudiantes src -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
acl usuariosestudiantes proxy_auth -i 
"/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"


http_access allow usuariosestudiantes hora_usuariosestudiantes

y me esta dando el siguiente


/etc/init.d/squid3 restart
[] Restarting Squid HTTP Proxy 3.x: squid32016/03/03 08:20:06| 
strtokFile: /etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes not found
2016/03/03 08:20:06| Warning: empty ACL: acl usuariosestudiantes 
proxy_auth -i "/etc/squid3/user/usuariosestudiantes"
2016/03/03 08:20:06| aclParseAclList: ACL name 'usuariosstudiantes' not 
found.
FATAL: Bungled squid.conf line 93: http_access allow usuariosstudiantes 
hora_usuariosestudiantes

Squid Cache (Version 3.1.20): Terminated abnormally.
CPU Usage: 0.045 seconds = 0.044 user + 0.001 sys
Maximum Resident Size: 76480 KB
Page faults with physical i/o: 0
 failed!

--
Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que 
ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema 
Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar 
el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas

Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[tomas]

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On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 01:29:11PM +, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 12:36:56 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 12:02:14PM +, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > You are not bothered about the security of the closed source firmware on
> > > the printer but are concerned about a closed source driver on the PC/
> > 
> > This is the usual dangerous strawman which leads, at the end, to do
> > nothing [...]

> I asked a question, one which may give pause for thought and give focus
> and direction to what is presumably the chief objective - printing with
> a Brother MFC printer. No argument (strawman or otherwise) was given; no
> view advanced. No Brother bashing. :)

Perhaps I'm a little dense, but I have a hard time reading your question
differently than "why you agonize about a non free driver if the whole
firmware of your printer is non-free"?

But I'm always interested in learning.

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Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 13:51 +, Brian wrote:
> The printer does Bonjour broadcasting. The broadcasts are detected on
> Debian by avahi-daemon. Applications using the GTK print dialog (for
> example, Iceweasel) can use avahi-daemon directly to display the
> printer
> in the dialog. Non-GTK applications cannot consult avahi-daemon
> directly
> and need cups-browsed and cupsd to get the printer displayed.
> 
> I do not have an AirPrint capable printer but have complete faith in
> the
> process working. :)
> 
> > 
> > I find a lot of information about setting up Cups as an AirPrint
> > server, but nothing about using it as a client.
> This is really about using CUPS with an AirPrint device such as an
> iPAD
> and printing to a non-AirPrint capable printer. The Debian CUPS has
> been
> patched to do this; no setup is required on the server.

Ah I should have known, I'm actually familiar with this part as it
makes it very easy to set up shared Cups printers in Debian (at least
with GNOME).

I guess it's good to know that Apple users will find it easy to use my
printer :)

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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Re: Linux Distribution βασισμένη στο Debian

[Ioannis Proios]

"Εις άτοπον απαγωγή", άρχισε να το φτιάχνεις και να βάζεις και αν
κάποιος σου παραπονεθεί το αφαιρείς ;)

On 03/08/2016 12:34 PM, Kostas Iliadis wrote:
> Καλησπέρα σας,
>
> Eδώ και καιρό προσπαθώ να φτιάξω τη δική μου
> linux διανομή βασισμένη στο Debian και έχω συναντήσει κάποιες
> δυσκολίες σχετικά με το software που μπορώ να περιλάβω. Αυτό
> περιλαμβάνει από προγράμματα χρήσης υπολογιστή ,firmwares, μέχρι και
> customization.
> Θα μπορούσα να μάθω από κάπου  για το τι μπορώ
> να περιλάβω , αν μπορώ να περιλάβω κάτι με κάποια σχετική άδεια και
> πως γίνεται αυτό , μέχρι και το τελικό στάδιο του publishing με όλες
> τις λεπτομέρειες που χρειάζονται και δε τις ξέρω εγώ;
>  Τα θέματα που με καίνε είναι τα εξής μέχρι
> στιγμής:
> 1) Τι προγράμματα commercial μπορώ να διαθέσω με τη διανομή μου
> (skype,vlc,chrome κτλ)
> 2) Wifi firmware και συγκεκριμένα iwl3945
> 3) Ati Graphic Firmware
> 4) Αλλαγές στην εμφάνιση πχ αλλαγές εικονιδίων του Mate ktl
>
>
> Ευχαριστώ πολύ,
>
> με τιμή,
>
> Ηλιάδης Κωνσταντίνος

Re: Certificado Digital (eCPF) - Token Safenet - eToken 510X

[Linux - Junior Polegato]

Em 08-03-2016 10:38, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:

Em 08-03-2016 10:13, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:

[...]
Daí temos que recorrer ao fabricante do software, creio que 
também para eTokens, a SafeSign [3], que parece que foi engolida pela 
CertSign+Microsoft e não responde, não encontrei mais nada desse 
site. Perguntando ao Gooráculo pela versão 3.0.87 do Safesign que tem 
para Windows, mas para Linux, "safesign 3.0.87 linux download", vem 
site do Serasa que tem para Linux a versão 3.0.43, que não reconhece 
os novos certificados, que exigem no mínimo a versão 3.0.77. Logo 
depois vem esse [4] da Valid, que tem a versão 3.0.87 para Windows e 
3.0.77 para Linux, que já nos atende.
Bom, se alguém encontrar e/ou tiver um link _seguro_ da 
versão 3.0.87 do SafeSign para Linux, favor postar aqui.

[...]


Em tempo, quando eu disse _seguro_, eu quis dizer em site de revendas 
de certificados conhecidas e no Brasil. Mas tenho esse link que não 
posso garantir a procedência:

http://lliurex.net/trusty/pool/main/s/safesignidentityclient/


Procurando um pouco mais, cheguei à empresa A.E.T. [1] que hoje mantém o 
SafeSign, mas não o disponibiliza, e neste documento [2], que afirma ter 
também as versões 3.0.88 e 3.0.93. Então procurando por essas versões, 
cheguei à esse repositório [3]. Bom, nada oficialmente _seguro_, mas 
serve de referência para termos ciência de que as versões para Linux 
existem, estão em alguns lugares e documentos, mas as empresas no Brasil 
não os disponibilizam.


[1] https://www.aeteurope.nl/
[2] 
https://www.itshop.nl/templates/itshop/images/uploaded/Safesign_Documentation/SafeSign-IC-Standard_3.0_Linux_Product_Description.pdf
[3] 
http://mirror.sit.fraunhofer.de/ubuntu/ubuntu-repo/pool/sit-adm/s/safesignidentityclient/


--

[]'s

Junior Polegato

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 14:15:54 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

> On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 12:02 +, Brian wrote:
> > The MFC-J5720DW supports AirPrint. Depending on which applications
> > you print from you do not require cupsd on the PC, so you could
> > dispense with a PPD and driver.
> 
> Do you know if/how this works on Debian? 

The printer does Bonjour broadcasting. The broadcasts are detected on
Debian by avahi-daemon. Applications using the GTK print dialog (for
example, Iceweasel) can use avahi-daemon directly to display the printer
in the dialog. Non-GTK applications cannot consult avahi-daemon directly
and need cups-browsed and cupsd to get the printer displayed.

I do not have an AirPrint capable printer but have complete faith in the
process working. :)

> I find a lot of information about setting up Cups as an AirPrint
> server, but nothing about using it as a client.

This is really about using CUPS with an AirPrint device such as an iPAD
and printing to a non-AirPrint capable printer. The Debian CUPS has been
patched to do this; no setup is required on the server.

jessie backports letsencrypt

[Michael Bonert]

Has any one managed to installed 'letsencrypt' on jessie?

I note that there are a few bugs... saying it will be available in a week
or so -- a couple of weeks ago.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=809018
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=805027

(I have the sense that it is stuck in a dependency jungle at the moment.)

Thanks,
Michael

-
What I get when I try installing it:

 apt-get install letsencrypt

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 letsencrypt : Depends: python-letsencrypt (= 0.4.1-1~bpo8+1) but it  
is not going to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


 apt-get install python-letsencrypt

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 python-letsencrypt : Depends: python-acme (>= 0.4.1) but it is not  
going to be installed
  Depends: python-cryptography (>= 0.7) but  
0.6.1-1 is to be installed
  Recommends: letsencrypt but it is not going to  
be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.


 apt-get install python-acme

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 python-acme : Depends: python-openssl (>= 0.15) but 0.14-1 is to be installed
   Depends: python-cryptography (>= 0.8) but 0.6.1-1 is  
to be installed

E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Dutch Ingraham]

When networked printers "print" without errors and without actually
printing, it could be your firewall blocking.

Re: Certificado Digital (eCPF) - Token Safenet - eToken 510X

[Linux - Junior Polegato]

Em 08-03-2016 10:13, Linux - Junior Polegato escreveu:

[...]
Daí temos que recorrer ao fabricante do software, creio que 
também para eTokens, a SafeSign [3], que parece que foi engolida pela 
CertSign+Microsoft e não responde, não encontrei mais nada desse site. 
Perguntando ao Gooráculo pela versão 3.0.87 do Safesign que tem para 
Windows, mas para Linux, "safesign 3.0.87 linux download", vem site do 
Serasa que tem para Linux a versão 3.0.43, que não reconhece os novos 
certificados, que exigem no mínimo a versão 3.0.77. Logo depois vem 
esse [4] da Valid, que tem a versão 3.0.87 para Windows e 3.0.77 para 
Linux, que já nos atende.
Bom, se alguém encontrar e/ou tiver um link _seguro_ da versão 
3.0.87 do SafeSign para Linux, favor postar aqui.

[...]


Em tempo, quando eu disse _seguro_, eu quis dizer em site de revendas de 
certificados conhecidas e no Brasil. Mas tenho esse link que não posso 
garantir a procedência:


http://lliurex.net/trusty/pool/main/s/safesignidentityclient/


--

[]'s

Junior Polegato

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Brian]

On Tue 08 Mar 2016 at 12:36:56 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 12:02:14PM +, Brian wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > You are not bothered about the security of the closed source firmware on
> > the printer but are concerned about a closed source driver on the PC/
> 
> This is the usual dangerous strawman which leads, at the end, to do
> nothing: "as long as there's something bad happening at X, why would
> you care about Y".
> 
> Your harddisk has "closed source" firmware. Heck, your CPU, if any newer,
> has "closed source" firmware (Intel IME, AMD has something similarly
> horrible). Why are you using Debian GNU Linux in the first place?
> 
> For me, there's an answer to that, and it is that conquer happens
> gradually, sometimes by reverse engineering, sometimes by persuasion.
> Watch at the evolution of Qualcomm's stance in the wake of Raspberry
> Pi's success for a beautiful example of the second.
> 
> As life is, there's no "total victory", but if you do nothing, you
> lose.

I asked a question, one which may give pause for thought and give focus
and direction to what is presumably the chief objective - printing with
a Brother MFC printer. No argument (strawman or otherwise) was given; no
view advanced. No Brother bashing. :)

A pragmatist would take the Brother lpr driver option. Together with the
PPD it offers all the functionality the printer is capable of. As a
matter of interest, the lpr driver is legally distributable by Debian.

Relying on a Generic PPD could lead to satisfactory printing. I'd try it
with a USB connection first. Thinking on, it is possible to adjust the
Brother PPD to not use the lpr driver. This would give a free printing
system on the PC.

The AirPrint facility can also be used to avoid any concerns with
security on the PC.

Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 12:02 +, Brian wrote:
> The MFC-J5720DW supports AirPrint. Depending on which applications
> you
> print from you do not require cupsd on the PC, so you could dispense
> with a PPD and driver.

Do you know if/how this works on Debian? 

I find a lot of information about setting up Cups as an AirPrint
server, but nothing about using it as a client.

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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