Hi,
Richard Hector wrote:
> When a maintainer tags a bug report with 'wontfix', is there not an
> expectation that they will say why?
Obviously the Debian Developers have much freedom how to act. At least
if it is about packaging and bug report processing.
As for Debian policy, in this case it
Hi,
Richard Hector wrote:
> #389251 (coreutils: date's -d switch doesn't honour locale) - it's quite
> an old one. But I found another instance in which the same claim applies:
Its age makes it hard to conclude nowadays' habits with newly submitted bugs.
The topic looks as promising for Debian
Richard Hector (2018-02-05):
> Actually, a good(ish) explanation is provided in a later bug, #729952:
>
> --8<--
> The date parsing feature exists in Debian only for compatibility with
> upstream. It is a complete misfeature, and I would prefer that it didn't
> exist at all. In an ideal
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 05/02/18 00:43, Nicolas George wrote:
> > Richard Hector (2018-02-05):
> >> #389251 (coreutils: date's -d switch doesn't honour locale) - it's quite
> >> an old one. But I found another instance in which the same claim applies:
> >>
> >>
Michael Stone (2018-02-04):
> Well, it's not particularly convenient for people to have to constantly
> wonder why the parser isn't doing what they think it should do. I've been
> getting the questions and bug reports for 20 years, so trust me when I say
> that people have trouble predicting the
Michael Stone (2018-02-04):
> Heck, let's try some natural language right now:
I hope you enjoy the warmth of the burning straw men. Good day.
Regards,
--
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Richard Hector (2018-02-05):
> #389251 (coreutils: date's -d switch doesn't honour locale) - it's quite
> an old one. But I found another instance in which the same claim applies:
>
> richard@zircon:~$ date -d '4/2/2018'
> Mon Apr 2 00:00:00 NZST 2018
>
> In my NZ locale, that date should be
Le 04/02/2018 à 10:08, Pierre L. a écrit :
J'ai capté comment rechercher des secteurs défectueux sur un disque dur
(à plateaux/aiguilles) à l'aide de la commande badblocks, en notant leur
numéro dans un fichier texte pour utilisation ultérieure.
ex test non-destructif:
badblocks -nvs /dev/sdc
On 05/02/18 00:30, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 05/02/18 00:16, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Richard Hector wrote:
>>> When a maintainer tags a bug report with 'wontfix', is there not an
>>> expectation that they will say why?
>>
>> Obviously the Debian Developers have much freedom how to act.
On 05/02/18 01:32, Nicolas George wrote:
> Richard Hector (2018-02-05):
>> Actually, a good(ish) explanation is provided in a later bug, #729952:
>>
>> --8<--
>> The date parsing feature exists in Debian only for compatibility with
>> upstream. It is a complete misfeature, and I would
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 02:27:00PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
Michael Stone (2018-02-04):
But a better parser would allow the same functionality, without being
confusing, inconsistent, and hard to maintain. So yes, I'll stand by
"complete misfeature".
Can you describe what you mean by
El 4 de febrero de 2018, 06:15, R Calleja escribió:
> Buenos dias ,
> alguien ha instalado los parches de grsecurity en debian 8 y puede ayudarme.
> Instale el kernel con grsecurity desde el repositorio backports, pero no se
> ejecutan libreoffice-cal ni el navegador firefox.
Hi Michael,
On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 11:44:39PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith wrote:
> > If you want to make genuine constructive suggestions for how things
> > could be improved, I think you should start by identifying what
> >
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 04:54:07PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
I hope you enjoy the warmth of the burning straw men. Good day.
Again, 20 years of dealing with people actually having trouble with
this. I'm really not making this up.
Mike Stone
On 05/02/18 00:16, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Hector wrote:
>> When a maintainer tags a bug report with 'wontfix', is there not an
>> expectation that they will say why?
>
> Obviously the Debian Developers have much freedom how to act. At least
> if it is about packaging and bug
On 05/02/18 01:44, Nicolas George wrote:
>> PS - please don't cc me; I'm on the list.
> Done this once, but I cannot promise I will think of it later. Document
> your preference in your mail mail header, the standard way, so that it
> is automatic and works for everybody, just like I did. Too bad
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:48:45AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote:
In which case, it should refuse to accept '4/2/2018' at all, right?
It can't, that would break working scripts. This is the heart of the
problem: we know the parser is horrible, confusing, and irregular, but
any attempt to
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On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 08:22:23AM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
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> But a better parser would allow the same functionality, without
> being confusing, inconsistent, and hard to maintain. So
> yes, I'll stand by "complete
Michael Stone (2018-02-04):
> But a better parser would allow the same functionality, without being
> confusing, inconsistent, and hard to maintain. So yes, I'll stand by
> "complete misfeature".
Can you describe what you mean by "better parser" in more details?
Beware that the "same
On 05/02/18 02:39, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> And what should human or machine think of my mail client's idea about
> when you sent your mail ?
>
>Tomorrow Richard Hector Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag
Ha! That I'm in NZ, of course. And I'm up too late. I never see that,
because we
El 4 de febrero de 2018, 12:16, Felix Perez
escribió:
> El 4 de febrero de 2018, 06:15, R Calleja escribió:
>> Buenos dias ,
>> alguien ha instalado los parches de grsecurity en debian 8 y puede ayudarme.
>> Instale el kernel con grsecurity desde
Michael Stone (2018-02-04):
> Again, 20 years of dealing with people actually having trouble with this.
> I'm really not making this up.
Ok. Then please let me tell you that you have an observation bias: as (I
suppose) a maintainer of the package, you have to deal with people who
have a problem,
I'm getting the error
avahi-daemon: Failed to open /etc/resolv.conf: Invalid argument
chroot.c: open() failed: No such file or directory
at boot.
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=800643
Is the workaround mentioned above (and below) still valid (bug date Oct 2015)?
On 05/02/18 01:13, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Hector wrote:
>> #389251 (coreutils: date's -d switch doesn't honour locale) - it's quite
>> an old one. But I found another instance in which the same claim applies:
>
> Its age makes it hard to conclude nowadays' habits with newly
Richard Hector (2018-02-05):
> Now that you mention it ... ls was where I started this adventure,
> reading coreutils bugs :-)
>
> And you mention SI prefixes - IMHO, the output of ls should be extended
> to actually show 'GiB' rather than 'G' where that is what is meant.
> Assumptions that the
Hi,
Richard Hector wrote:
> Incidentally, the gnu 'Date input formats' link above does talk about
> only accepting English names for days and months, but doesn't say
> anything about the ordering of day and month (except, under 'General
> date syntax', saying that 'Order of the items is
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 04:04:34PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
All you describe is convenience for programmatic use. As I explained,
this parser is meant for interactive use. For interactive use,
flexibility and natural language are a convenience.
And you keep ignoring the fact that actual
Thomas Schmitt (2018-02-04):
> And what should human or machine think of my mail client's idea about
> when you sent your mail ?
>
>Tomorrow Richard Hector Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag
That it should learn to parse timezones and take them into account. The
date in Richard's mail
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 06:45:16PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
David Wright (2018-02-04):
$ TZ=London date
Sun Feb 4 17:17:56 London 2018
$ TZ=UtterNonsense date
Sun Feb 4 17:44:00 UtterNonsense 2018
The fact that it printed the name you put and not the official name of
the time zone
Hi,
Mike Stone wrote:
> So it must be that "first tuesday" means
> the first tuesday in the month, but "second tuesday" sadly means the first
> tuesday plus one second because "second" has more than one meaning and I
> wanted the other one.
This illustrates the fundamental problem with natural
Hello,
I would like to open a LUKS container (which is the OS Debian) through
GRUB, but with the header stored in a USB key for example. Through the
file crypttab
(https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/cryptsetup/crypttab.5.en.html), it
seems possible to specify the path of the header, but I
David Wright (2018-02-04):
> $ TZ=London date
> Sun Feb 4 17:17:56 London 2018
$ TZ=UtterNonsense date
Sun Feb 4 17:44:00 UtterNonsense 2018
The fact that it printed the name you put and not the official name of
the time zone shows that the value is invalid. The correct value would
have been:
On Sun 04 Feb 2018 at 18:45:16 (+0100), Nicolas George wrote:
> David Wright (2018-02-04):
> > $ TZ=London date
> > Sun Feb 4 17:17:56 London 2018
>
> $ TZ=UtterNonsense date
> Sun Feb 4 17:44:00 UtterNonsense 2018
>
> The fact that it printed the name you put and not the official name of
>
Buenas,
Tengo un pequeño problema de scripting que no se como resolver.
Dispongo de un comando que me da el consumo eléctrico de mi casa:
# rtl_fm -f 43350 -s 20 -r 96000 -g 19.7 2>/dev/null | Efergy
Lo que quiero es redirigir esta salida a un script en bash y tratar la
salida como una
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 05:00:14PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
Anyway, if you propose to remove the ability to write something like
"2017-12-04 + 73 days", I veto as strongly as I can.
The above is a very restricted subset of the date(1) grammar. Your
confusion seems to stem from the fact
On Sun 04 Feb 2018 at 14:39:44 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard Hector wrote:
> > Incidentally, the gnu 'Date input formats' link above does talk about
> > only accepting English names for days and months, but doesn't say
> > anything about the ordering of day and month (except,
On Sun 04 Feb 2018 at 17:44:54 (+0100), Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Mike Stone wrote:
> > So it must be that "first tuesday" means
> > the first tuesday in the month, but "second tuesday" sadly means the first
> > tuesday plus one second because "second" has more than one meaning and I
> >
On 05/02/18 09:49, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
They seem to happen when I am
running four or more apps at the same time.
I would never expect to see orphaned inodes except after a system crash
or kernel memory corruption. How did you test your CPU and RAM? Do you
see any other symptoms such as
On 4 February 2018 at 22:50, Michael Fothergill <
michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 4 February 2018 at 15:20, Andy Smith wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 11:44:39PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>> > On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith
On 4 February 2018 at 15:20, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 11:44:39PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > On 3 February 2018 at 23:14, Andy Smith wrote:
> > > If you want to make genuine constructive suggestions for how
El día 4 de febrero de 2018, 21:32, Josu Lazkano
escribió:
> Buenas,
>
> Tengo un pequeño problema de scripting que no se como resolver.
> Dispongo de un comando que me da el consumo eléctrico de mi casa:
>
> # rtl_fm -f 43350 -s 20 -r 96000 -g 19.7 2>/dev/null |
a mi se me ocurre
export variable="$(rtl_fm -f 43350 -s 20 -r 96000 -g 19.7
2>/dev/null | Efergy)";
y ya podrias usar la variable dentro de MiScript.sh
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 3:34 PM, fernando sainz wrote:
> El día 4 de febrero de 2018, 21:32, Josu
Bonsoir,
J'ai testé la distrib , y a ce PB continuelle de l'authentification WIFI, et
donc c'est quoi les clés de hash du bon système, je vais pas corriger les
amusements de certain ...
Sinon, chez Fedora ils m'ont dit que sur une tablette il existe une signature
de l'OS, et que chacun est
I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform.
Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes.
I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no
results that make any sense to me. I've been using computer since the
early 1960's but am an
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 03:49:36PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform.
> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes.
>
> I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no
> results that make
On Sunday 04 February 2018 15:49:36 Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform.
> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes.
>
> I have goggled the causes. cures and prevention, but have gotten no
> results that make any
On 2018-02-04 at 20:06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
>
>> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform.
>> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes.
>
> That means:
>
> 1. "unlinked" files or
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform.
> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes.
That means:
1. "unlinked" files or directories were still open when the filesystem
had to be shutdown/made
Hi all,
This might not be the most useful list, but I'm not subscribed to -devel
and don't want to jump in there without good reason.
When a maintainer tags a bug report with 'wontfix', is there not an
expectation that they will say why?
I was just reading a bug report that seemed valid (if
On 05/02/18 00:43, Nicolas George wrote:
> Richard Hector (2018-02-05):
>> #389251 (coreutils: date's -d switch doesn't honour locale) - it's quite
>> an old one. But I found another instance in which the same claim applies:
>>
>> richard@zircon:~$ date -d '4/2/2018'
>> Mon Apr 2 00:00:00 NZST
Quelqu'un m'appelle au secours a propos d'un mac qui démarre plus. Il y
a un double boot mac/linux et pour les deux systèmes les syptomes sont
les memes : ca fait mine de démarrer, puis écran noir et plus rien ne se
passe.
Un essai de démarrage sur une clef USB avec SystemRescueCD a fait plus
Bonjour,
Essai d'installer OS X sur un support externe (disque externe par exemple)
et démarre avec, si ça bloque au bout de la barre de chargement, selon les
nombreux cas que j'ai eu sur les macs, ça viendrai de la puce graphique.
Si ça démarre normal avec le disque externe, dans ce cas
Salut,
As-tu essayé de zapper la P-RAM ?
Appuyer sur « [Command]+[option]+[P]+[R] » dès le son de démarrage (il faut les
3 mains, je sais ;-) et garder l’appuis sur au moins 4 ou 5 reboot (son de
démarrage) puis lâcher. Si je me souviens bien, l’effacement des données de
préférence d’affichage
Le 05/02/2018 à 08:38, Belaïd a écrit :
Bonjour,
Essai d'installer OS X sur un support externe (disque externe par
exemple) et démarre avec, si ça bloque au bout de la barre de
chargement, selon les nombreux cas que j'ai eu sur les macs, ça
viendrai de la puce graphique. Si ça démarre
On 2/4/18 12:49 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
receiving warning messages from the OS,
Please post the warning messages from the OS, and identify where they
are coming from.
Please run 'mount' and post the prompt, the command, and the relevant
portions of the output. Please do the same for
Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> Can anyone give me some guidance in what I should be looking for? It
> would be much appreciated.
>From my experience most probably inappropriate shutdown (no unmount when
shutdown).
How do you shutdown your machine?
Can you try without systemd (just install sysvinit
> Le 16/01/2018 à 15:12, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>
> > C'est quand même un gros progrès. Avec bash, j'ai espoir de configurer
> > le démarrage du réseau, et me connecter en SSH, un jour, peut-être...
Le Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 08:48:17PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
>
> Tu pourrais connecter
Bonjour,
Petite pêche à l'info à propos de l'utilisation de badblocks...
J'ai capté comment rechercher des secteurs défectueux sur un disque dur
(à plateaux/aiguilles) à l'aide de la commande badblocks, en notant leur
numéro dans un fichier texte pour utilisation ultérieure.
ex test
Bonjour, avez vous testé le changement de la home page vers about:blank ?
Éric Dégenètais
Le 3 févr. 2018 1:48 PM, "Eric Degenetais" a écrit :
> Custom Search Engine... ne serait-ce pas l'un de ces sites qui propose de
> chercher dans ses pages à l'aide d'un formulaire
Buenos dias ,
alguien ha instalado los parches de grsecurity en debian 8 y puede ayudarme.
Instale el kernel con grsecurity desde el repositorio backports, pero no se
ejecutan libreoffice-cal ni el navegador firefox.
Sabe alguien como se administra grsecutiry.
Muchas gracias, Roberto.
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