Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 12:24:14 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ > ^^^ > > ;-) DE - Desktop *Environment*. A case of selective censorship? :) > [...] >

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:21:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:15:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:01:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > [...] > > > > No, I didn't get that idea -- wasn't it you who reminded us that CUPS > > > doesn't require

Debian latency test

2019-08-16 Thread danwe
Hello, is there any program to test the intern latency of Debian? So I just need to know how much time the Linux Kernel needs to response to a request. Kind regards Daniel

Re: Configure apt-get to work through corp internet proxy

2019-08-16 Thread Henning Follmann
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:03:49PM +, Wilkinson, Matthew wrote: > Hello Debian users, > > I'm experimenting with Debian in an enterprise environment. We have a corp. > Internet proxy which downloads and scans files prior to passing the files > onto the client. > > With Debian this seems

Re: Debian latency test

2019-08-16 Thread danwe
I do have Xenomai 2 with RTnet and Xenomai 3 without RTnet. I have tested "latency" on both to see how fast the Kernel can react to a request. In that context I do not want to measure how fast e.g. real-time udp frames will be. I just need to know how fast the Kernel could be. Am Fr., 16. Aug.

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:48:30AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 12:24:14 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ > > ^^^ > > > > ;-)

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:46:17PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:21:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > I'm getting old, so this piqued somewhat my vanity. I double-checked: [...] > It's a fair cop! :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: SOLVED: Re: buster: DNS server?

2019-08-16 Thread Henning Follmann
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 01:01:42PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > Thanks to those who replied to my original post, > <45c61e48-0393-a413-4f7a-d88be911a...@gmail.com>; the responses gave me enough > clues to find the source of the problem. > > The solution turned out to be obvious in retrospect (like

Re: webmail and email from command line

2019-08-16 Thread loredana
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:51 PM Jude DaShiell wrote: > Running using 2fa may be possible with non-browser apps if your security > records indicate you ran with what google considers an untrusted app and > google has it listed. You can generate an app-specific password for the > non-browser app

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 08:39:43 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 09:53:20AM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote: > >

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:48:30 +0100, Brian wrote: > On my print server with buster: > > root@futro:~# apt purge dbus > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > dbus*

Re: Debian latency test

2019-08-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 02:31:38PM +0200, danwe wrote: > is there any program to test the intern latency of Debian? So I just need > to know how much time the Linux Kernel needs to response to a request. latencytop comes to mind first. strace can be used for this, assuming that you

TWAIN in Debian 10.

2019-08-16 Thread peter
Hi again, I'm interested in moving an image from a JVC Digital Camera KY-F70 to Debian 10. The camera is pre-USB; it has a 50 pin SCSII connector. Probably what the Wikipedia SCSII connector article mentions as HPCN50. The JVC manual mentions TWAIN software for image transfer and claims

Re: Trackman Marble under wayland in Buster

2019-08-16 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 11:29:48AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > Hello, > I just updated to buster and with that comes wayland. > I am using a Trackman marble and I do have a custom > configuration for it to switch to scoll when I hold > button 8 (called "EmulateWheel"). > Is there a way to do

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:54:50AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:48:30 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On my print server with buster: > > > > root@futro:~# apt purge dbus > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree > > Reading state

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:01:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:54:50AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:48:30 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > On my print server with buster: > > > > > > root@futro:~# apt purge dbus > > > Reading package lists...

Re: webmail and email from command line

2019-08-16 Thread loredana
First of all, I wish to thank all of you who shared their experience. Be reassured I am taking any constructive suggestion into serious account and exploring more. Then: On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:03 AM Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:24:49 +000 > loredana wrote: > > secure

Re: Debian latency test

2019-08-16 Thread Henning Follmann
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 02:31:38PM +0200, danwe wrote: > Hello, > > is there any program to test the intern latency of Debian? So I just need > to know how much time the Linux Kernel needs to response to a request. > > Kind regards > > Daniel This measurements will be meaningless unless you

Re: webmail and email from command line

2019-08-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019, loredana wrote: > Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 10:02:17 > From: loredana > To: Celejar > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: webmail and email from command line > Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:03:05 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > First

Re: webmail and email from command line

2019-08-16 Thread lena
Hi Loredana, I agree with other debianers that setting a forward to another email provider for now should be the easiest option. I think it would be a good idea to find an email provider that allows smtp/imap clients, and as far as I know protonmail does it only in Pro version. I know there is

Re: Debian latency test

2019-08-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 02:31:38PM +0200, danwe wrote: >Hello, >is there any program to test the intern latency of Debian? So I just need >to know how much time the Linux Kernel needs to response to a request. >Kind regards >Daniel You don't mention what sorts of requests, but

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 09:53:20AM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:15:18PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 13:01:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > No, I didn't get that idea -- wasn't it you who reminded us that CUPS > > doesn't require avahi-daemon? > > I don't think so; not in this thread anyway. I'm getting

Re: Arrow annotation in GIMP.

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:40:59AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > From: Dan Ritter > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:26:18 -0400 > > Set the background to transparent. > [...] > Really I don't understand the representation used in GIMP. From what > I've read, there are three channels, R, G, B.

Re: Migration des noms des interfaces réseau

2019-08-16 Thread Migrec
Le 16/08/2019 à 01:31, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Peut-on sans risque modifier tous les fichiers de conf qui contiennent eth0 et eth1 pour leurs nouveaux noms ? J'ai un firewall géré avec fwbuilder : dois-je modifier à la main le script généré ? Si vous avez des URL sur cette migration, je

Re: TWAIN in Debian 10.

2019-08-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 07:58:58 -0700 pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi again, > > I'm interested in moving an image from a JVC Digital Camera KY-F70 to > Debian 10. The camera is pre-USB; it has a 50 pin SCSII connector. > Probably what the Wikipedia SCSII connector article mentions as > HPCN50.

Re: Arrow annotation in GIMP.

2019-08-16 Thread peter
From: Dan Ritter Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:26:18 -0400 > Set the background to transparent. Menus: Layer > Tranparency > Add Alpha Channel. The new viewer remains black. Might be transparent. Might not. (If all else fails, will see what happens when the arrow is dropped on the image layer.

maximale Monitorgröße auslesen

2019-08-16 Thread Thomas
Hallo, wie kann ich die maximal anschließbare Monitorgröße auslesen? Der PC hat Stretch. Gruss Thomas

Re: TWAIN in Debian 10.

2019-08-16 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:15 AM wrote: > Has anyone used TWAIN in Debian? TWAIN is my all time favorite acronym.

Re: webmail and email from command line

2019-08-16 Thread Jude DaShiell
anyone who needs that, needs a burner account. Those are lots less permanent and when your account is taken by someone else since you have no way to recover that account it's understood whatever you had in it was encrypted and is disposible. Google provides a higher level of management than you

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > Nowadays that system often relies on printer/print queue Bonjour > > broadcasts. > > And that is called "jumping to conclusions". > Printing itself haven't changed a bit for last 15

Re: Permissions and delivery of LAN email by exim

2019-08-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 02:20:09PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > AIUI exim should be able to deliver emails into a user's mbox, but > I'm confused about how exim is meant to do that, because it runs as > user Debian-exim, but mailbox permissions are normally group:mail. I don't know much about

Re: Compiling Linux with "bdver2" gcc optimization option

2019-08-16 Thread Franco Martelli
On 16/08/19 at 17:22, Étienne Mollier wrote: > Bonjour, > > Woops, this sounds a bit like I might not have used a very clear > wording. If I were at your place, I would proceed so; but I > don't have a Piledriver CPU to do actual testing on my side. > I'm still stuck with an old K10, not to

bash: impossible de régler le groupe de processus du terminal (20286): Ioctl() inapproprié pour un périphérique

2019-08-16 Thread G2PC
.bashrc alias mediawiki1='/usr/bin/php /var/www/wiki.domaine.fr/maintenance/deleteOldRevisions.php --delete' crontab -e 01 10 * * * bash -ic "mediawiki1 >> /var/log/cron-dropbox.log 2>&1" J'obtiens dans les messages system, via mailx : bash: impossible de régler le groupe de processus du

Re: Compiling Linux with "bdver2" gcc optimization option

2019-08-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
Franco Martelli, on 2019-08-16: > On 16/08/19 at 17:22, Étienne Mollier wrote: [...] > > Compilers may have good optimization routines to boost the speed > > of the code in several situations, but in other ones there are > > trade-offs to take between size and performance of the code. I > >

Re: Compiling Linux with "bdver2" gcc optimization option

2019-08-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonjour, Franco Martelli, on 2019-09-14: > On 13/08/19 at 19:35, Étienne Mollier wrote: [...] > > I would do a few tests with a virtual > > machine supporting bdver2 instructions before going live anyway, > > and backups stored far away from the machine once testing, and > >

Re: Debian latency test

2019-08-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
Reco, on 2019-08-16: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 02:31:38PM +0200, danwe wrote: > > is there any program to test the intern latency of Debian? So > > I just need > > to know how much time the Linux Kernel needs to response to a > > request. [...] > bpftrace definitely can do it, but some learning is

Re: TWAIN in Debian 10.

2019-08-16 Thread peter
From: Dan Ritter Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:15:24 -0400 > The problem with TWAIN, as I recall, is that it wasn't actually > a standard API between devices and OS so much as a standard way > for an application to call a manufacturer-supplied application > in order to control and receive images. >

Confounding behaviour of Empathy.

2019-08-16 Thread peter
The Contacts List in Empathy notifies in bold letters, "You haven't added any contacts yet". Meanwhile the "Add Contact" button is pale grey; disabled. I guess others have encountered this connundrum. Anyone have a solution? Thanks, ... Peter E. --

Permissions and delivery of LAN email by exim

2019-08-16 Thread David Wright
AIUI exim should be able to deliver emails into a user's mbox, but I'm confused about how exim is meant to do that, because it runs as user Debian-exim, but mailbox permissions are normally group:mail. For example, with exim4 on hostR set up as … internet site; mail is sent and received

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Reco
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > Nowadays that system often relies on printer/print queue Bonjour > > > broadcasts. > > > > And that is called

Re: TWAIN in Debian 10.

2019-08-16 Thread Dan Ritter
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hi again, > > I'm interested in moving an image from a JVC Digital Camera KY-F70 to > Debian 10. The camera is pre-USB; it has a 50 pin SCSII connector. > Probably what the Wikipedia SCSII connector article mentions as > HPCN50. The JVC manual mentions TWAIN

Re: maximale Monitorgröße auslesen

2019-08-16 Thread Linux-Fan
Thomas writes: Hallo, wie kann ich die maximal anschließbare Monitorgröße auslesen? Der PC hat Stretch. Gruss Thomas Hallo, *** das hier ist die englischsprachige debian-user Liste, von daher sollten Fragen wohl besser auf Englisch gestellt werden? *** die maximale Auflösung ergibt sich

Re: Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 16/08/2019 à 23:27, Steffen Dettmer a écrit : (Apparently man used uid 13 in Debian 8 / Jessi but 6 in Debian 9 / Stretch). AFAICS, user "man" has had UID 6 since at least Debian 6/squeeze.

Re: bash: impossible de régler le groupe de processus du terminal (20286): Ioctl() inapproprié pour un périphérique

2019-08-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 16/08/2019 22.23, Étienne Mollier wrote: > Qui serait appelé comme ceci : > > 01 10 * * * /root/bin/mediawiki > > Ou bien alors comme cela si le fichier n'est pas exécutable : > > 01 10 * * * /bin/bash /root/bin/mediawiki Hum, bien sûr remplacez root par l'utilisateur en charge

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 22:39:09 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:14:58PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > Nowadays that system often relies on printer/print

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Reco
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:36:57PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 22:15:59 +0100, Tixy wrote: > > > On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 19:41 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > The fact remains that dbus is not a DE only package. How did anyone > > > get the idea it was? > > > > Perhaps because D-Bus

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Reco
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 21:05:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't try to dissuade anyone from using last century's > > > technology > > > if they have their heart

Confounding behaviour of Empathy.

2019-08-16 Thread peter
The Contacts List in Empathy notifies in bold letters, "You haven't added any contacts yet". Meanwhile the "Add Contact" button is pale grey; disabled. It needs a file initialized? A dependancy? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Oberon Tel: +1 604 670

Re: bash: impossible de régler le groupe de processus du terminal (20286): Ioctl() inapproprié pour un périphérique

2019-08-16 Thread G2PC
Super, il semble bien que j'ai oublié de passer les logs vers un fichier, pour m'en débarrasser. Je pense utiliser le bashrc, donc, pas besoin de créer un script complémentaire. Merci pour ce retour. Le 16/08/2019 à 22:23, Étienne Mollier a écrit : > G2PC, au 2019-08-16 : >> .bashrc >> alias

Re: Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:18 PM Steffen Dettmer wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for your quick reply. > > I see, multiboot with different /etc but shared /usr or /local could > invite a lot of trouble if using different UIDs, indeed! Thanks for the > quick explanation. > > > (Apparently man used uid 13

Re: Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread David Wright
On Sat 17 Aug 2019 at 04:18:00 (+0200), Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > I see, multiboot with different /etc but shared /usr or /local could invite > a lot of trouble if using different UIDs, indeed! Thanks for the quick > explanation. Sure. Most system files can be copied between different /etc

Re: bash: impossible de régler le groupe de processus du terminal (20286): Ioctl() inapproprié pour un périphérique

2019-08-16 Thread Étienne Mollier
G2PC, au 2019-08-16 : > .bashrc > alias mediawiki1='/usr/bin/php > /var/www/wiki.domaine.fr/maintenance/deleteOldRevisions.php --delete' > > > crontab -e > 01 10 * * * bash -ic "mediawiki1 >> /var/log/cron-dropbox.log 2>&1" Bonjour, D'après le manuel de bash(1), section ALIASES, les alias ne

Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, is the "Debian Wiki" at https://wiki.debian.org/ "official"? If so, I hope here is the right place to ask. The wiki at e.g. https://wiki.debian.org/LSB tells "Currently all major distributions comply with the LSB" and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLsb tells "Debian strives to follow and

Re: Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread Dan Hitt
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:28 PM Steffen Dettmer wrote: > Hi, > > just for my curiosity I wonder why the numeric UID values matter at all, > for example: > > > I believe file ownership is tracked by numeric UID rather than user name. So, for example, if you multi-boot, a file owned by user 500

Re: Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread David Wright
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 23:27:27 (+0200), Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > just for my curiosity I wonder why the numeric UID values matter at all, > for example: > > update-passwd has found a difference between your system > accounts and the current Debian defaults. It is advisable to > allow

Re: Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-16 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:15:32PM +0200, Steffen Dettmer wrote: >Hi, >is the "Debian Wiki" at  [1]https://wiki.debian.org/ "official"? If so, I >hope here is the right place to ask. The wiki at e.g. >[2]https://wiki.debian.org/LSB tells "Currently all major distributions >

Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, just for my curiosity I wonder why the numeric UID values matter at all, for example: update-passwd has found a difference between your system accounts and the current Debian defaults. It is advisable to allow update-passwd to change your system; without those changes some packages

Re: Debian Wiki and LSB (https://wiki.debian.org/LSB)

2019-08-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, ok, thank you for your quick reply! I hope it is OK to edit there. To avoid confusion I added a hint with a link to https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/ and updated the following WikiTopics: - https://wiki.debian.org/LSB - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLsb -

Re: Why do UID values of system users matter?

2019-08-16 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, thanks for your quick reply. I see, multiboot with different /etc but shared /usr or /local could invite a lot of trouble if using different UIDs, indeed! Thanks for the quick explanation. > (Apparently man used uid 13 in Debian 8 / Jessi but 6 in Debian 9 / > > Stretch). > > AFAICS, user

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:06:43 +0200, john doe wrote: > On 8/15/2019 6:52 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote: > > > >> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer. > >> > >> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote: > >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 09:51:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 08:47:34PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 15 Aug 2019 at 21:05:10 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:41:06PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > I wouldn't try to dissuade anyone from using

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:06:43AM +0200, john doe wrote: [...] > Okay, as far as I understand it, depends means that it will be pulled as > an dependency but not that it is required for it to work properly. > What I'm starting to realise is that to much dependencies are pulled to > implement

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 11:03:41AM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ ^^^ ;-) [...] > As Reco said: > > > If you don't need it - just uninstall it. > > What do you get for 'apt purge dbus'? Not the OP, but here's mine:

Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

2019-08-16 Thread john doe
On 8/15/2019 6:52 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote: > >> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer. >> >> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote: I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros

Re: webmail and email from command line

2019-08-16 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:02:57PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:24:49 + > loredana wrote: > > ... > > > secure applications, this is likely not to be a viable solution (it > > seems that google is going to forbit less secure application access > > starting November first