FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.28 1996/10/27 23:29:58 sr1 Exp sr1 $ 1. General Questions 1.1.Before reading this document You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ ( ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/doc/FAQ/debian-faq.html ). 1.2.Purpose of this document This document is intended to identify areas that need your contributions. It provides information that hopefully changes quite often, so it supplements the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. 1.3.Feedback Please send additions, corrections, suggestions and wishes to Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please mention to which version of this document your comments refer. 2. Packages needing a new maintainer Please inform me via e-mail: o when you find that you need to discontinue maintaining a package o when you believe that the following list is incomplete o when you would like to maintain one of the packages listed here. David Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o binutils o gcc o libc5, libc6 (potentially a lot of work) o libg++ o libc4, aout-binutils, aout-gcc (stone-age compatibility packages) Andrew D. Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o acs DJ Gregor [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o biff o cdtool o workbone o xwpe Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o aout-svgalib o svgalib1 o svgalib1-bin o svgalib1-dev Christian Linhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o statserial o tgif o xarchie Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o adjtimex o fdutils o hkgerman o html2latex o metamail o xautolock Dale Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o lclint o mailx Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o acm o aout-librl (this package might be unnecessary now) o pmake Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o seyon Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o sokoban Andrew Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xtron Alvar Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o groff o man Dominik Kubla [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o amd o kbd o vlock o ssh (ITAR restricted, needs US maintainer) Stuart Lamble [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o gdb Doug Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o abuse o apsfilter 3. Packages that someone is working on Programs listed in this section aren't yet available as Debian packages, but someone is working on providing a package. If you would like to work on one of these packages please contact the responsible person listed below. Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dome (http://www.netaxs.com/ cjf/jpegs.html) o and probably : xli [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl R. Sackett) : o FreeLIP - large integer package o LEE - Latent Energy Environments artificial life simulator o rsaref - installer scripts for the RSAREF crypto library o swarm - Objective-C based artificial life research tool Mike Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mule Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xbill o LPRng Behan Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] o sxpc (Simple Xwindows Protocol Compresser) o qfax (multi-user e-mail extension to efax). [EMAIL PROTECTED]: o tkHTML Darren [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o giftool o canna o lx-gdb Michael Alan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o glimpsehttpd Warwick Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o mercury (a purely declarative logic programming language with strong modes, strong types, and strong determinism) [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules) ( http://www.pilgrim.umass.edu/pub/osf_dce/RFC/rfc86.0.txt ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o CLISP David H. Silber [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o dbackup - A Debian-specific backup program. o lockstep - A program to keep various directory trees in sync. o uucpconfig - A configuration program which will become part of my uucp package. o latex2html Hakan Ardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o faces - visual list monitor Brian Sulcer [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vile (vi-like editor) o rogue o umoria Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o vtwm: Virtual Window Manager for X11 o mutt: a new mailreader (ftp.infodrom.north.de:/pub/people/joey/debian/beta) Michael Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o amanda, the University of Maryland's free network backup system. o nntplink Bdale Garbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o spice (circuit simulation package) o gforth Billy Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o xbomb Alan Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o gpc (GNU Pascal) Christophe Le Bars [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o MMM: a WWW browser implemented in Caml o doc-linux-fr o doc-debian-fr Yves Arrouye [EMAIL PROTECTED]> : o btoa o povray Jon Rabone [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o SISCAD Christian Lynbech [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o ilisp (emacs interface to a number of lisp systems) o hyperbole (emacs hypertext/info management system) o oobr (emacs package for browsing OO programs) o STk (Scheme Tk, a scheme interpreter with Tk support) Frederic Lepied [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o calc (emacs calculator package) Christian Hudon [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o qmail (waiting for license change) Tim Cutts [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o exim (a mail transfer agent, ftp://cus.cam.ac.uk/pub/software/programs/exim) Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] : o i
Re: shadow passwd?
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Robert Stone wrote: > is there a shadow passwd system available for Debian 1.1? It's not official, but you can find a debianized version of shadow passwords at ftp://serek.arch.pwr.wroc.pl/pub/shadow This is the home of shadow passwords for linux. I haven't tried it yet (I'm installing 1.1 now, I added shadows manually to my 0.93R6 systems). See ya, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors with Ethernet module installation...
Tim Sailer wrote: > > In your email to me, Bill Vinson, you wrote: > > > > I just decided to reinstall so I would have the chance to install modules > > to work with the SN2000CT ethernet card. It says it is 100% NE2000 > > Ethernet compatible and when I opted to install the NE2000 module I got the > > following error: > > > > nc.c: module autoprobing not allowed. Append "io=0xNNN" value(s). > > Initialization of ne failed > > > > Installation failed. > > > > What does this mean? I'm pretty sure the card is set in the 16-bit slot > > firmly. Did I get a useless ethernet card? Is there a good way to test if > > it is in fact available? No, the card probably isn't causing this problem, you need to tell it where to find the card. > > I think 0x320 it the 'standard' spot the ne2k cards live. At the prompt > for additional command line options (or what ever it is), add > "io=0x320" and see if that works > In my /etc/conf.modules I have: options ne io=0x340 irq=10 which indicates that my card is at io address 0x340 and irq10. You probably need to insert this line into yours as well, or specify it on the command line when you call depmod. You can use the io=0xNNN to get it to autoprobe, apparently, I read this somewhere when I was trying to do understand modules, but can't give you a precise reference. It was probably in one of the files in /usr/doc/modules, the modules howto or /usr/src/linux/Documentation An alternative is to build the driver into the kernel, when it will autoprobe and find out the correct addresses. The kernel prints up this info when it boots (I think), enabling you to find out the the io address and irq if you don't know them. Sorry I can't point you to an exact reference, but I hope this helps. Chris, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How unstable is "unstable"
Joe Emenaker wrote: > > I've noticed that all of the upgrades to packages usually go into > "unstable". > > What, exactly, does "unstable" mean? Does it mean that the packages haven't > been 'frozen' into a new release of Debian? Does it mean that the package > itself is flaky? or does it mean that the version number of the packages > that show up there are likely to change often? > > In short, how wary should I be about using things in "unstable"? Unstable means "in flux" or "changing" as opposed to "tried and tested" and "reliable". Usually the "unstable" stuff is reliable and all, but from time to time you may run into a pothole - like the time when a broken tar was released. And yes, with "unstable" you're bound to see frequent updates of packages. Ciao, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.pages.de/~thb/";>thb's Homepage -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
shadow passwd?
is there a shadow passwd system available for Debian 1.1? a "strings /lib/libc.so.5.2.18 | grep shadow" gives me ... /etc/gshadow /etc/shadow @(#)gshadow.c 1.1 12:22:5113 Feb 1994 (GNU Shadow Library Suite) @(#)shadow.c1.1 12:23:0613 Feb 1994 (GNU Shadow Library Suite) ... which makes me wonder if the code is a part of libc, but I need to tell the system to use the shadow file for calls like getpwent(3) (somehow). any ideas? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix System Administrator -- Access Internet Communications for PGP key send mail with subject "send pgp key" -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faxing?
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: > Just to let everyone know, I'm finishing up Debian packages for > hylafax-server and hylafax-client. They should be ready within 7-10 > days. does it work with mgetty? Craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
J.H.M.Dassen wrote: > If you don't like 'dselect', you can always use 'dpkg' (the lower-level > utility); 'dpkg' allows you to override dependencies. > (In fact, I've used dpkg since before dselect, and only learned to use > dselect lately (a SLiRP connection now allows me to keep stuff up to date; > the FTP method is very handy)). Now one thing I'm wondering about is whether anybody has already developed a small script that moves the files from the dpkg-ftp inbound directory to a local debian installation directory. Right now I'm doing that manually whenever my /var fs fills up, but mv'ing all those files while checking to delete the old versions and later on recreating Packages files is surely a hassle. Ciao, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.pages.de/~thb/";>thb's Homepage -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ghostscript Dependency Problem
joost witteveen writes: > Sure, that's the best. But a lot of Debian maintainers don't really like > "non-free" to begin with, and don't like to give non-free the same > prefferential treatment the main system gets. Then get rid of it. Do it right, or not at all. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
> Guy Maor writes: > > That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies,... I wrote: > Why? Guy Maor writes: > See the Programmer's Manual, section 8.2. I don't have anything identifying itself as the Programmer's Manual. Where is it found? John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: useradd?
On 27 Oct 1996, Guy Maor wrote: > I would recommend NOT using anything but adduser to add a user to your > Debian machine. The other script could very well add the user in some > incompatible way. Instead just read the man page of adduser and > figure out how to translate the call. I doubt it's very difficult. I believe the 'useradd' program was a strictly Slackware program. BUT... It no longer exists in Slackware even.. The useradd program was added to allow COMPLETE command line adding of users, for automated user generation. (I used it for a BBS package that I ran a while back to add new users) It should not be a problem unless you are running shadow passwords, in which you definetely don't want to run it. I'd been running on several different releases, AFTER the Slackware.. (Linux FT, and Redhat) But the suggestion on adapting the calls to the adduser would be the best course. -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faxing?
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Nicholson writes: >Has anybody summarized the differences b/w EFAX and Hylafax? Have you also considered to use mgetty+sendfax? David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CD mounts (was Re: Callback Internet Link)
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, mike horansky writes: >Stephen Pitts wrote: > >> I created a setuid script that attempted to mount my cdrom. Running >> it as a user, the only error I got was that it couldn't modify >> mtab. So, I guess you were right and a script only runs >> semi-setuid. > >You might want to use the "super" utility to run scripts that set uid ... This is probably overkill unless you want to restrict mounts to special persons. You can use the normal mount (be sure to use the newest one; which is bugfixed). Put something like that into /etc/fstab: /dev/cdu31a /cdromiso9660 noauto,ro,user,exec,suid 0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy/a msdos noauto,rw,user 0 0 /dev/fd1/floppy/b msdos noauto,rw,user 0 0 And any user can mount your cdrom. Check the mount(8) and/or fstab(5) manpages. David -- David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |Microsoft isn't the answer...it's the QUESTION. Schlieren, Switzerland |``No'' is the answer. 51F35923114FC8647D05FF173C61EFDE|Use Debian GNU/Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:52:32 CST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: > > This is a long story and it generated a lot of discussions here. > > The consensus is that it's better for user-level programs to be compiled > > with the same set of kernel file than libc was compiled with. > > Obviously, if you want to compile your own kernel-level stuff that's a > > problem. But the kernel itself shouldn't look in /usr/include. I wasn't > > aware that 2.1 was looking here. Hmmm. > > Almost every kernel that have looked in (including 2.0.x) looks in > /usr/include. > > Anytime a file needs an include file it it referenced lise this: > > #include > > This is /usr/include/linux/whatever.h. It is assumed by Linus, > et. al., that /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, and > /usr/include/asm-i386 will all be symlinks to the actual kernel > source. Nope. Linus et al. don't assume anything. If you configure the kernel correctly, it will never have to look up in /usr/include. The -I passed to gcc ensure that the kernel headers are taken from the sources, not anywhere else. > The only solution for me has been to move the offender out of > the way and temporarily create the expected symlinks while I compile > the kernel and then put everything back when I am done. I have put > this in a script since I try to keep up with the 2.1.x kernels and > have to compile somewhat frequently, but this is still kind of a > pain. Maybe someone else can tink of some better solution/compromise. You don't have to do this. There is no problem here :-). There might be a problem when compiling say en external module. Then add the good -I lines to the Makefile, and it's fixed. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: useradd?
Daniel Stringfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 26 Oct 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: > > > What linux's have useradd? > > > > It seems that hylafax's faxsetup script assumes you have useradd. > > > > I know I have adduser > I haven't seen useradd for at least a year. I think that useradd was > "phased out". I would recommend NOT using anything but adduser to add a user to your Debian machine. The other script could very well add the user in some incompatible way. Instead just read the man page of adduser and figure out how to translate the call. I doubt it's very difficult. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) writes: > Guy Maor writes: > > That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies,... > > Why? See the Programmer's Manual, section 8.2. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: > > > This is a long story and it generated a lot of discussions here. > The consensus is that it's better for user-level programs to be compiled with > the same set of kernel file than libc was compiled with. > Obviously, if you want to compile your own kernel-level stuff that's a > problem. But the kernel itself shouldn't look in /usr/include. I wasn't aware > that 2.1 was looking here. Hmmm. > Almost every kernel that have looked in (including 2.0.x) looks in /usr/include. Anytime a file needs an include file it it referenced lise this: #include This is /usr/include/linux/whatever.h. It is assumed by Linus, et. al., that /usr/include/linux, /usr/include/asm, and /usr/include/asm-i386 will all be symlinks to the actual kernel source. The only solution for me has been to move the offender out of the way and temporarily create the expected symlinks while I compile the kernel and then put everything back when I am done. I have put this in a script since I try to keep up with the 2.1.x kernels and have to compile somewhat frequently, but this is still kind of a pain. Maybe someone else can tink of some better solution/compromise. Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ypxfr and hosts.{byaddr,byname}
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Arrigo Triulzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
> I seem to be unable to get ypxfr to receive
>hosts.{byaddr,byname} from the main NIS host. My secondary server
>(slave for purists) complains about a DBM error:
>
>ypxfr: Local dbm operation failed
Hmm.. On the slave, do a rm -rf /var/yp/your.domain, then run
ypinit again to re-initialize the database. That might help.
Mike.
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Re: Ghostscript Dependency Problem
> There's nothing inherently unstable about non-free software, so I > think "non-free" and "unstable" should be orthogonal concepts. How > about a "non-free/stable" in which nothing depends on anything outside > of "stable", and a "non-free/unstable", in which anything goes? > Sure, that's the best. But a lot of Debian maintainers don't really like "non-free" to begin with, and don't like to give non-free the same prefferential treatment the main system gets. I'm sure there one day will be a stable/non-free and unstable/non-free, but I'm not going to be asking for it. -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gs -anitialias * cause core dump(Re: gv -antialias?)
> > > When I try 'gs -anitialias *.ps' it gives me a core dump. I > > have gs-aladdin_4.03-2_i386.deb > > Are you sure gs dumps core or do you merely get regular gs error > messages (which usually almost look like a core dump) ? > > Also, since gs does not know the option "-antialias" (or "-anitalias") > it should emit a warning "Unknown switch -antialias - ignoring", > then display the file(s) regularly. You're dead right. The problem was with his libc (he had 5.4.7), and for some reason the wrapper (gs itself is a wrapper that executes /usr/bin/gs.real) didn't like that. It would dump with any two command line options. But I didn't seem to be able to mail these results back to him, as: $ telnet market1.com 25 Trying 208.129.57.12... Connected to market1.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 explore.market1.com ESMTP server (post.office v1.9.3 trial license expi red ) ready Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:02:16 -0700 quit i.e., his isp's mailserver's trial license expired! One more reason for Debian... -- joost witteveen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Use Debian/GNU Linux! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Permission problems
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Stephen Pitts wrote: > I just repartitioned one of my drives to give Linux more space and Winbloze > less. Now I have four partitions: swap, /, /usr, and /usr/local instead of > three (/, /usr, swap) The system appeared to work OK when I tested it, but > (conveniantly :-) after I turned the usr partition into the usr/local > partition I started getting wacky errors, and xdm wouldn't let me log in > as a regular user. I found that all of the files in my home directory were > owned by root! A find -group root | xargs chown stephen.stephen ficed > most of the problems, but man still says "Can't set effective uid: > Operation not permitted", and my MUA (mutt, an elm clone) can't read from > the spool even though it is owned by stephen. Can anyone offer any > suggestions? How did you move files around? if you used tar without the "preserve uid,gid,permissions" flag, then tar may have reset all of the ownerships, and permissions to root and your umask. This would definitly screw up MUAs, etc. This happened to me once. The only solution (besides manaully changing all the ownerships, permissions) was to redo the move with the proper args. Fortunatly I hadn't erased the original tree yet. Good Luck, Erv ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ ==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ __/ / /\ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /__\ \ \ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org \_\/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faxing?
On 26 Oct 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Has anybody summarized the differences b/w EFAX and Hylafax? Just to let everyone know, I'm finishing up Debian packages for hylafax-server and hylafax-client. They should be ready within 7-10 days. Dermot -- Dermot BradleyEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communications Director Tel: +44 1232 572003 Genesis Project Ltd Fax: +44 1232 560553 Belfast & Coleraine & Desertmartin, N.I. WWW: http://www.gpl.net/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: useradd?
On 26 Oct 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: > What linux's have useradd? > > It seems that hylafax's faxsetup script assumes you have useradd. > > I know I have adduser I haven't seen useradd for at least a year. I think that useradd was "phased out". The release that I last remember seeing it on was a 1.2.9 kernel release of Slackware. Reply back to me if you can't find someone else that has the program, because I might be able to pull it out of one of my old CD's... -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LaTeX fonts
> Please does anyone have (or know of where I can find) as script/Macro I >can run which would check for the fonts installed on my system and write out a Hmm, a ls /var/spool/texmf/fonts/pk/ should give you a first hint ( is the mode supply to mf; most probably cx; but this should be taylored to your printer) >tex file repeating some phrase in the different avaliable fonts. This is so I >can actuall see what the different fonts look like... Not exactly. But there is testfont.tex (tex testfont) where you can print out a sample text of the choosen font. Hope this helps, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gs -anitialias * cause core dump(Re: gv -antialias?)
> When I try 'gs -anitialias *.ps' it gives me a core dump. I > have gs-aladdin_4.03-2_i386.deb Are you sure gs dumps core or do you merely get regular gs error messages (which usually almost look like a core dump) ? Also, since gs does not know the option "-antialias" (or "-anitalias") it should emit a warning "Unknown switch -antialias - ignoring", then display the file(s) regularly. My guess is that you are just trying to view *.ps files which contain postscript code ghostscript doesn't understand, that "gs *.ps" will also cause a core dump core for you and that what seems to be a core dump is just an ugly ghostscript error message. If my guess is wrong and you find problems when using 'gv -antialias foo.ps' where foo.ps is a postscript file that can be viewed with ghostscript, then please contact me. Regards, Johannes Plass -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DialD: Finally
Hi Daniel, Try using the ip-up/ip-down scripts. See the man page for more info Simon -- From: Daniel Stringfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: DialD: Finally Date: 25 October 1996 23:08 Ok!! Don't need help on this anymore!! It works.. finally... BUT... does anyone know how to make it run a custom script that I have to produce a html file that gets uploaded to my ISP? (The script works already... just want diald to automatically do it when I get connected) TIA -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
Guy Maor writes: > That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies,... Why? John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes it does. You can hit "Q" to force dselect to accept things as you > have chosen. Pressing "Q" causes dselect to momentarily forget about dependency conflicts. When installing the packages the user will certainly get lots of error messages related to unresolved dependencies. Furthermore packages which caused dependency problems are left unconfigured and the user can not configure them later using dselect. Furthermore, when using dselect in the future the user can not check for dependencies of other packages by pressing "Return" before leaving the selection mode of dselect since this will cause to pop up all the unresolved dependencies which he tried to override in the previous session, forcing him to override them now again in a lengthy process. In my opinion, pressing "Q" is not the way to go. > Also, as someone else mentioned, you can always use dpkg. Yes, dpkg allows to override dependencies. But the suggestion to use dpkg instead of dselect to handle hundreds of Debian packages is not worth to discuss. > dselect, aside from being a more 'friendly' front end to dpkg, seems to do > the following: > [...] > - half-heartedly attempt to enforce dependencies. The dependencies itself are "half-heartedly". The package maintainer thinks that ghostscript requires the ghostscript fonts, so he defines a "recommend" dependency between these two. But the user thinks the fonts are not needed since he only wants to view pictures, so he wants the dependency to be at most a "suggest". The basic problem is that package maintainers and users may disagree when it comes to defining dependencies between packages. And dselect doesn't provide a decent way to handle this situation. Regards, Johannes Plass -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 17:38:12 +1100 Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED] rmit.EDU.AU) wrote: > I mentioned previously that it's very difficult to compile modules > and things on Debian because /usr/include/linux is from libc5-dev, > and hence contains old version.h, and doesn't contain modversions.h. > This problem is even worse in that you cannot compile kernel 2.1.5 > on Debian; it looks for several files in /usr/include/linux > that are not there. > > Why is /usr/include/linux not part of the kernel-headers or > kernel-source package? I thought it was mandatory to have either > one of these installed. This is a long story and it generated a lot of discussions here. The consensus is that it's better for user-level programs to be compiled with the same set of kernel file than libc was compiled with. Obviously, if you want to compile your own kernel-level stuff that's a problem. But the kernel itself shouldn't look in /usr/include. I wasn't aware that 2.1 was looking here. Hmmm. Phil. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DialD: Finally
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Daniel Stringfield wrote: > > BUT... does anyone know how to make it run a custom script that I have to > produce a html file that gets uploaded to my ISP? (The script works > already... just want diald to automatically do it when I get connected) Enable the ip-up script in diald.options and run your script in ip-up. Mark -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
>Actually, it's really nice for me. It automatically notes new packages that >have been updated and lets me download and install them with less than 10 >or so keypresses whether there are 2 upgraded packages or 200. Sorry, I've been away for a while. Dselect is nice, but I really think the interface needs a facelift. I may be wrong and it may be great, but I remember it being very confusing when I first got Linux and started working with it. It's even occurred to me to see about getting its source code and giving it the old workover. I have some changes in mind for the interface that I might try to implement. Sound like a worthy project? Or am I the only one who'd like to see it? If you think it would be good, let me know either via the list or by E-mail and I might see what I can do. Tim O'Brien - < I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be APPROXIMATED! > - Please direct Email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gs -anitialias * cause core dump(Re: gv -antialias?)
David Puryear wrote: > I noticed that some ps files gives error when using > gv -antialias > Does anyone know why? I looked at man and docs and couldn't not find > why. Okay, I play around with it some more. It's not gv problem but ghostscript. When I try 'gs -anitialias *.ps' it gives me a core dump. I have gs-aladdin_4.03-2_i386.deb Is this a bug? Thanks, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xterm and TERMCAP
> Zlatko Rek wrote:
>
> >I have problems with xterm. When it is opened the TERM and TERMCAP
> >environment variables are set to:
> >
> > TERM=xterm
> > TERMCAP=co#80:li#24:
> >
> >I use Jed editor and if I want to edit file the "Terminal not powerful
> >enough for SLang." message appears. When TERMCAP is unset Jed works OK.
>
> TERMCAP can be set to either the name of a termcap file (a file
> containing termcap definitions for many terminals), or a literal
> definition for a single terminal. In your case, TERMCAP is defined for
> very nearly the dumbest possible terminal definition.
>
> The fact that Jed works with TERMCAP unset means that it is successfully
> picking up the system-wide termcap file. You need to find out where
> TERMCAP is being erroneously set and unset it. It might be in your
> .bash_profile (or other profile, depending on your shell), or possibly
> in a system-wide set-up file, such as /etc/profile.
TERMCAP is not set in any set-up file. If I login on console then
TERM is set to linux and TERMCAP is unset. I think that TERMCAP is set
by xterm. Now I've put TERMCAP=/etc/termacap in csh.login.
> >Another problem is that command history keys ( up/down arrows) dont
> >work. Next or previous command is appended to the current instead
> >of replace it.
>
> The correct behaviour depends which shell and editing mode you're using,
> and whether your particular terminal type is supported properly. Please
> give details.
I use tcsh 6.06.00 (tcsh-6.06-3.dpkg). Here is my /etc/csh.login file
(I dont use ~/.cshrc and /etc/csh.cshrc is empty)
# /etc/csh.login: system-wide .login file for csh(1)/tcsh(1).
# $Id: csh.login,v 1.1 1994/04/24 15:08:50 imurdock Exp $
if ($?prompt) then
umask 022
if ( `whoami` == root ) then
set prompt="%~%# "
else
set prompt="%~%% "
endif
set path = ( $path /usr/bin/X11 /usr/local/bin /usr/games . )
set autologout=0
set noclobber
set autolist
set ignoreeof
set correct=cmd
set matchbeep=nomatch
set cdpath=( . ~ )
set notify
set history = 100
setenv PAGER less
setenv EDITOR /usr/local/bin/jed
setenv MANPATH /usr/local/man:/usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man
setenv TERMCAP /etc/termcap
alias lf ls -F
alias ll ls -l
alias dir ls -al
alias cls clear
alias clr clear
alias lo exit
alias his history
alias cp "cp -i"
alias mv "mv -i"
alias rm "rm -i"
alias ma 'mount /a'
alias ua 'umount /a'
alias tis 'lynx tis.telekom.si'
if ( $TERM == 'xterm' ) then
alias cwdcmd 'echo -n "]2;${HOST}:$cwd"'
set prompt='%# '
cwdcmd
endif
endif
Regards.
Zlatko
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cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev
I mentioned previously that it's very difficult to compile modules and things on Debian because /usr/include/linux is from libc5-dev, and hence contains old version.h, and doesn't contain modversions.h. This problem is even worse in that you cannot compile kernel 2.1.5 on Debian; it looks for several files in /usr/include/linux that are not there. Why is /usr/include/linux not part of the kernel-headers or kernel-source package? I thought it was mandatory to have either one of these installed. hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B
Neal R. Dalton wrote: > > Has any installed a Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B on a 2.x kernel? I > installed Debian 1.1 and tried to get eepro100.c working. > > How about other 100Mb cards? > > Thanks, > I had it working under 2.0.22 and couple of versions below (that was under RH 3.0.3 distribution) -- are you having problems or you are just stating that you have it running? Vladislav -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Vladislav Papayan wrote: > Neal R. Dalton wrote: > > > > Has any installed a Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B on a 2.x kernel? I > I had it working under 2.0.22 and couple of versions below > (that was under RH 3.0.3 distribution) -- are you having > problems or you are just stating that you have it running? I'm not getting any network connectivity. I'm reinstalling Debian 1.1 and going to try rebuilding the the driver. I heard one person had to move the board around in PCI slot to get a IRQ of 10 to get it to work. The board works undre NT, but who wants to run NT. Neal -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who do I give package to?
I've made some packages (wine, joystick, mutt), and would like to know where to upload them to. Also, I might try my hand at Acrobat. Does Debian have the most packages of any distribution? It sure seems like it! -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with "Send PGP Key" in the subject to get my PGP key. One learns to itch where one can scratch. -- Ernest Bramah pgpR9diiAltEN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problems with my hard drive
On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Matthew D Moss wrote: > I have a 1gig IDE hard drive in my Intel/Debian Linux machine. The machine > is up all the time, and up until now, I've had no problems with it. > > Recently, the hard drive has starting making a weird "ping" noise that > I know I've never heard before. These ping's are very infrequent, but > usually come 2-3 within a minute, then won't happen again (that I know) > for a day or two. Even that seems too often > > Can anyone tell me what this might indicate? Hopefully it's not the drive > going bad, considering it's less that 6 months old. What would be the > best way to diagnose and repair this problem??? I really don't favor > getting another drive, since this is my primary machine. Unfortunately, this is the drive physically going bad. The ping sound is the built-in controller of the drive losing control of the drive... :( I recommend backing it up ASAP and then return it to who you purchased it from. -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How unstable is "unstable"
I've noticed that all of the upgrades to packages usually go into "unstable". What, exactly, does "unstable" mean? Does it mean that the packages haven't been 'frozen' into a new release of Debian? Does it mean that the package itself is flaky? or does it mean that the version number of the packages that show up there are likely to change often? In short, how wary should I be about using things in "unstable"? - Joe -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
useradd?
What linux's have useradd? It seems that hylafax's faxsetup script assumes you have useradd. I know I have adduser -- They pay homage to a king who's dreams are buried in their minds. His tears are frozen stiff. Icicles drip from his eyes. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gv -antialias?
Hi all, I noticed that some ps files gives error when using gv -antialias Does anyone know why? I looked at man and docs and couldn't not find why. Thanks for any information, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors with Ethernet module installation...
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Tim Sailer wrote: > I think 0x320 it the 'standard' spot the ne2k cards live. At the prompt > for additional command line options (or what ever it is), add > "io=0x320" and see if that works anything from 200-360 usually is "normal" for a ne2000 board. 320 is the RECOMMENDED port for most systems, but from what I have seen, most boards default to something completely off. (I'm a computer tech, so I see lots of boards...) -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
I agree wholeheartedly! I am a beta-tester for XFree86 and update by distribution about twice a week with new alpha releases. Every time I run "make Everythingl make install", I overwrite debian libraries and binaries. I am going to have to d/load XFree86 3.2 in debian form, even though I have 70+ MB of source and binaries on my machine. After 3.2, I think I'll just install XFree86 in /usr/local/X11R6. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with "Send PGP Key" in the subject to get my PGP key. If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants. -- Isaac Newton In the sciences, we are now uniquely privileged to sit side by side with the giants on whose shoulders we stand. -- Gerald Holton If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders. -- Hal Abelson In computer science, we stand on each other's feet. -- Brian K. Reid pgpkEEshBNkc7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
> From: Johannes Plass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Debian's realization of package dependencies is, in my opinion, > too tight. > Two (out of many possible) examples may illustrate my point: [ snip ] > The basic problem is that deselect doesn't allow to override > any dependencies specified by package maintainers. Yes it does. You can hit "Q" to force dselect to accept things as you have chosen. Also, as someone else mentioned, you can always use dpkg. dpkg is the tool that apparently handles maintaining the list of installed packages, removing and installing of packages, etc. dpkg *does* seem to sometimes enforce some package dependencies, but that has only happened to me once. dselect, aside from being a more 'friendly' front end to dpkg, seems to do the following: - automatically retrieve names & versions of currently available packages. - point out packages that have been updated. - automatically retrieve the package files via ftp, cdrom, etc. - half-heartedly attempt to enforce dependencies. > But as it is currently, maintaining a Debian system by using > deselect is a real pain ... Actually, it's really nice for me. It automatically notes new packages that have been updated and lets me download and install them with less than 10 or so keypresses whether there are 2 upgraded packages or 200. - Joe -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors with Ethernet module installation...
On 26 Oct 1996, Bill Vinson wrote: > I just decided to reinstall so I would have the chance to install modules > to work with the SN2000CT ethernet card. It says it is 100% NE2000 > Ethernet compatible and when I opted to install the NE2000 module I got the > following error: > > nc.c: module autoprobing not allowed. Append "io=0xNNN" value(s). > Initialization of ne failed > > Installation failed. > > What does this mean? I'm pretty sure the card is set in the 16-bit slot > firmly. Did I get a useless ethernet card? Is there a good way to test if > it is in fact available? You must specify port address manually. (the initial installation lets you do this, but you can also load it by hand by load 8390.o (or something similiar named) and then ne.o with io=0x???. HTH -- Daniel Stringfield mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jax-inter.net/user/servo Send email for more information on the Jacksonville Linux Users Group! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faxing?
> From: Robert Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Can you fax text etc in EFAX without ghostscript? Yes and no. Yes, because efax comes with a utility to turn text files into group-3 fax images. It's called "efix" and an example usage is given near the bottom of the efax man page. No, because I haven't been able to successfully fax anyone with efax yet. It starts transferring the fax and then wigs. It's probably a class 1 vs. class 2 thing or something... but I haven't figured it out yet. So, to summarize, I can't fax with efax, but it has nothing to do with my not having ghostscript. - Joe -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Annoying package dependence concept
"Joe Emenaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > dpkg *does* seem to sometimes > enforce some package dependencies, but that has only happened to me once. That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies, but dpkg only treats them as suggestions. See Programmer's Manul 8.2. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sendfax keeps getting rejected
I'm trying to send faxes via either efax or mgetty's sendfax with no success. I started by using efax's "efix" to generate some group-3 files. Once upon a time efax would try to send them... now it isn't even able to dial. So, I went with sendfax. Sendfax dials, connects, and then starts sending, but it then fails. I've tried having it call my Win95 machine running MS-Exchange and Exchange shows the fax coming in at a fairly good clip. Then, when it's received just about all of the first page, Exchange says "Page 1 rejected" and then sendfax reports that Exchange has dropped the connection. I'd think this was because the fax file was all messed up, but Exchange actually lets me see the "partially received fax" and it looks perfect! Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Permission problems
I just repartitioned one of my drives to give Linux more space and Winbloze less. Now I have four partitions: swap, /, /usr, and /usr/local instead of three (/, /usr, swap) The system appeared to work OK when I tested it, but (conveniantly :-) after I turned the usr partition into the usr/local partition I started getting wacky errors, and xdm wouldn't let me log in as a regular user. I found that all of the files in my home directory were owned by root! A find -group root | xargs chown stephen.stephen ficed most of the problems, but man still says "Can't set effective uid: Operation not permitted", and my MUA (mutt, an elm clone) can't read from the spool even though it is owned by stephen. Can anyone offer any suggestions? -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 on an Intel Pentium 150 Send a message with "Send PGP Key" in the subject to get my PGP key. The Psblurtex is an 18-inch long anaconda that hides in the gentlemen's outfitting departments of Amazonian stores and is often bought by mistake since its colors are those of the London Reform Club. Once tied around its victim's neck, it strangles him gently and then claims the insurance before running off to Germany where it lives in hiding. -- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac" pgpDg4t3frY9H.pgp Description: PGP signature
