Re: colores en ls y 2000

1998-09-05 Thread M.G.
 On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, M.G. wrote:

  No existe /etc/profile, ni tampoco /home, puede que sea debido a
  no haber creado usuario.

Ni os molestéis en contestar, fue un lapsus, lo siento.

Aprovecharé para ver si puedo aclarar unas dudas no estrictamente
relacionadas con Debian GNU/Linux, aunque sí algo:  es sobre el
efecto del año 2000 en los ordenadores, oí hace tiempo que éste
no afectaría al SO Linux... bueno, que no lo haría en esa fecha,
aunque sí posteriormente (2054, aproximadamente).
Si esto es cierto, no lo entiendo, ya que el problema parece estar
no sólo en los SOs, sino también en el código de los procesadores
y BIOS (había algo así como que reescribir todo este código
conllevaría un enorme trabajo)... a no ser que el hecho de que
Linux utilice la BIOS tan sólo para arrancar y luego la sobrepase
tenga algo que ver (just guessing).

Un saludo,



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Re: colores en ls y 2000

1998-09-05 Thread Antonio Castro
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, M.G. wrote:

  On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, M.G. wrote:
 
   No existe /etc/profile, ni tampoco /home, puede que sea debido a
   no haber creado usuario.
 
 Ni os molestéis en contestar, fue un lapsus, lo siento.
 
 Aprovecharé para ver si puedo aclarar unas dudas no estrictamente
 relacionadas con Debian GNU/Linux, aunque sí algo:  es sobre el
 efecto del año 2000 en los ordenadores, oí hace tiempo que éste
 no afectaría al SO Linux... bueno, que no lo haría en esa fecha,
 aunque sí posteriormente (2054, aproximadamente).
 Si esto es cierto, no lo entiendo, ya que el problema parece estar
 no sólo en los SOs, sino también en el código de los procesadores
 y BIOS (había algo así como que reescribir todo este código
 conllevaría un enorme trabajo)... a no ser que el hecho de que
 Linux utilice la BIOS tan sólo para arrancar y luego la sobrepase
 tenga algo que ver (just guessing).

La cifra no es 2054 sino 2038 puedes probar ahacer un par de touchs.

$ touch -t 010101012038 kk0kk
$ touch -t 010101012039 kk0kk
touch: formato de fecha inválido `010101012039'


 La cifra de 2038 se debe a que en muchas funciones se usa como tiempo 
el número de segundos transcurridos desde el 1-Enero-1970.

Veamos unos calculos.

$bc
2^32 # Cantidad maxima codificable e 32 bits
4294967296
4294967296/(60*60*24*365)# Pasamos de segundos a años
136
136/2
68
1970+68
2038
 
La división de 136/2 es porque se maneja un entero de 32 bits con signo.

La bios está escrita para 32 bits. Linux está pensado para 64 bits o
mejor dicho depende de la arquitectura de la máquina. Linux no usa
la BIOS casi para nada que yo sepa.

-values.h---
#define MINSHORT((short)(1  (SHORTBITS - 1)))
#define MININT  (1  (INTBITS - 1))
#define MINLONG (1L  (LONGBITS - 1))

#define MAXSHORT((short)~MINSHORT)
#define MAXINT  (~MININT)
#define MAXLONG (~MINLONG)
---

 Un saludo,
 
 
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Re: Correction of Clock for summer time

1998-09-05 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 4 Sep 98 10:37:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It turned out to be option a. The help from the list was great as
always. My problem is that I don't know where to start looking in the
MAN pages (I would never have guessed the names tzconfig or hwclock).

Try man -k clock to get a list of all commands that have clock in
their man description.  The command apropos is an alias of this.


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Re: chatscript permissions

1998-09-05 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 4 Sep 98 02:59:09 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Dyer) wrote:

Since I upgraded to hamm,  only root is allowed to run pon.
/var/log/ppp.log reports that my user logon does'nt have permission to
open /etc/chatscripts/provider.
--open /etc/chatscripts/provider failed  :access denied.
All users have read perm.  What file is holding it back?

It sounds like a group permissions problem.  What you need to do is
add non-root users to the groups dip and dialup, and that should
do the trick.


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Re: Correction of Clock for summer time

1998-09-05 Thread David Warnock
Robert Wilderspin wrote:
 
 On 4 Sep 98 10:37:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 It turned out to be option a. The help from the list was great as
 always. My problem is that I don't know where to start looking in the
 MAN pages (I would never have guessed the names tzconfig or hwclock).
 
 Try man -k clock to get a list of all commands that have clock in
 their man description.  The command apropos is an alias of this.

Rob,

Thanks, missed that.

Dave


Re: Debian Netscape Installer and glibc2 Communicator 4.06

1998-09-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
Either get the glibc version of Netscape
in /pub/communicator/4.06/development/english/unix/linux20_glibc2
or install the necessary libc5 packages.

On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Jianbo Zhang wrote:

 Hi Debians,
 
 When I run dpkg -i netscape4_4.0.12.deb, I got some error message: it
 says that some libc5 and motif  related files could not be found.  So I
 installed Communicator 4.06 in my fresh Debian (2.0) Linux box with
 nsinstall. So far I did not find any problem, but I still do not know
 why Debian netscape installer does not work for me. Help is highly
 appreciated.
 
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Problem running Debian 2.0 on an ATT Globalyst S10 server

1998-09-05 Thread Cleto Pescia
Hello,

Sorry for the slightly off-topic question, but I am not sure to what
extent it can be Debian 2.0-related...

I have managed to install Debian 2.0 on an older ATT Globalyst S10
server, which ran NetWare 3.12 for a couple of years.
The first strange thing was that I had to use the tecra resce disk,
because the standard one failed to terminate the boot process.
Then, after I got the system up and running, I compiled a custom
2.0.34 kernel with support for the built-in Adaptec 7870 (BIOS v.1.11,
dated 1994), and that's when I started observing the following two
problems:
- Random reboots at boot time (just after the Loading Linux.).
  That didn't happen with the kernel used for the installation.
- The internal Wang DAT Model 3200 tape is never recognized by Linux,
  even if it shows up in the initial devices list shown by the
  Adaptec BIOS.
The system currently has 4 SCSI devices in it:
- one 1GB Conner HDD (ID #0)
- one Quantum Fireball SE 4.6GB (ID #1)
- a TEAC CD-ROM drive (ID #2)
- a Wang 3200 DAT tape drive (ID #3)
The Adaptec controller is at ID #6. The SCSI chain is terminated at the
CD-ROM drive.

I have browsed DejaNews looking for definitive answers, but without
much success... Am I definitely out of luck with this particular
setting? Could the Adaptec BIOS be too old? What else could I try?

Thanks for any help!

Cleto



Re: Debian Netscape Installer and glibc2 Communicator 4.06

1998-09-05 Thread Matt Garman
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 04:55:44PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 Either get the glibc version of Netscape
 in /pub/communicator/4.06/development/english/unix/linux20_glibc2
 or install the necessary libc5 packages.
 
 On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Jianbo Zhang wrote:
 
  When I run dpkg -i netscape4_4.0.12.deb, I got some error message: it
  says that some libc5 and motif  related files could not be found.  So I
  installed Communicator 4.06 in my fresh Debian (2.0) Linux box with
  nsinstall. So far I did not find any problem, but I still do not know
  why Debian netscape installer does not work for me. Help is highly
  appreciated.

I think what he is saying is that the NETSCAPE INSTALLER requires
libc5.  I have the version of Netscape you speak of, but for the
Debian installer package and wrapper, you must have libc5 installed.


How to install via nfs, ftp?

1998-09-05 Thread Jan Krupa
I have on one partition (1G) Win95, Fat32. I would like to install
Debian on the rest part of hard disk (2G) but the problem is that
I do not have CD-ROM with the distribution and AFIK there is no way
to install debian from Win95 FAT32 partition so I need to install
debian via internet (ftp, fns). How it is possible?

I used rawrite2 to prepare two 1440 floppies: resc1440.bin
and drv1440.bin (from Linux/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/).
I booted compter from floppy resc1440.bin and then installed modules and
drivers from floppy drv1440.bin then configured modules and drivers
(installed support for nfs, eth0, network card) then configured 
network( host name, domain name computer's IP address,...).
After that I chose to install *the base system* via nfs but did not know
how to type the  name of nfs server. e.g. I tried
to type 'debian.org/dist but it did not work.

Could someone please explain to me how to install debian
via nfs or ftp ? I mean which floppies should I prepare and
how to type the name of the nfs server ?

Of course I have other possibility to install the base system
from 5 floppies but what then ? The file basecont.txt shows that
the 5 floppies do not contain e.g. ftp.

For now the only way I see to install debian on my computer is
to buy distribution on CD-ROM but it would be faster(earlier) to install
via ftp.

Thanks in advance

Jan Krupa 


How to install via nfs, ftp?

1998-09-05 Thread Jan Krupa
I have on one partition (1G) Win95, Fat32. I would like to install
Debian on the rest part of hard disk (2G) but the problem is that
I do not have CD-ROM with the distribution and AFIK there is no way
to install debian from Win95 FAT32 partition so I need to install
debian via internet (ftp, fns). How it is possible?

I used rawrite2 to prepare two 1440 floppies: resc1440.bin
and drv1440.bin (from Linux/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/).
I booted compter from floppy resc1440.bin and then installed modules and
drivers from floppy drv1440.bin then configured modules and drivers
(installed support for nfs, eth0, network card) then configured 
network( host name, domain name computer's IP address,...).
After that I chose to install *the base system* via nfs but did not know
how to type the  name of nfs server. e.g. I tried
to type 'debian.org/dist but it did not work.

Could someone please explain to me how to install debian
via nfs or ftp ? I mean which floppies should I prepare and
how to type the name of the nfs server ?

Of course I have other possibility to install the base system
from 5 floppies but what then ? The file basecont.txt shows that
the 5 floppies do not contain e.g. ftp.

For now the only way I see to install debian on my computer is
to buy distribution on CD-ROM but it would be faster(earlier) to install
via ftp.

Thanks in advance

Jan Krupa 


Re: Help: cannot use alien

1998-09-05 Thread Joey Hess
htyj wrote:
 I used alien like the following:
 
 alien -d .rpm
 
 but an error msg was printed out: 
 
 sh: cpio command not found.
 
 I've installed rpm, debmake, gcc, make,etc. 
 Is there any other packages needed? If not, how to deal with this problem?

You need to install cpio. But, this is interesting, I didn't think rpm used
cpio anymore. Please send me the output of rpm --version

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Re: Mail via PPP

1998-09-05 Thread Thomas Behrndt
 I would like my return address on all outgoing mail to be my address at my
 ISP.  I believe this is done by modifying the headers on outgoing mail?

In smail, you use the visible domain name for this. It will use this for
the part of the address after @.
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Re: chatscript permissions

1998-09-05 Thread john
Kenneth Scharf writes:
 Since I upgraded to hamm, only root is allowed to run pon.
 /var/log/ppp.log reports that my user logon does'nt have permission to
 open /etc/chatscripts/provider.  --open /etc/chatscripts/provider failed
 :access denied.  All users have read perm.  What file is holding it back?

The users must also have execute permission on /etc/chatscript.  This a
known bug in the ppp package.
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Re: Kernel compile fails on Cyrix...

1998-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:

[snip]
  Same. Cyrix make cheaper alternatives to Intel chips. The catch is a
  higher power consumption.. therefore HEAT! (Oh.. and not as good an FPU) 
  Try the 'set6x86' package.. good for enabling the HALT feature.. from the
  README file:
  
The 6x86 has a set of configuration registers that allows one to do
a lot of things, like specifying non-cacheable memory areas
(important for e.g. graphics cards), I/O delays, cache write policy
(WB/WT), and also to enable an automatic standby mode where a CPU
halt instruction cuts down power by a factor of 70 (from 5.8 Amps
to 83 milli-Amps for the P133+).
 
 Better yet, install a better cooler. If you are compiling a kernel or if
 you are participating in something like distributed.net's RC5 cracking,
 the processor won't spend much time on the HLT instruction, so it will
 still get hot.

True.. :)

 BTW Michael, your system clock seems to be set to Mon, 1 Jan 1996.

Damned thing.. starts doing that when larger household appliances get
turned on... (washing machine, dishwasher... etc.)


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Inferno

1998-09-05 Thread Phillip Neumann
Hi,



Im wondering if someone is running ``Inferno'' somewhere
Its a network OS from Bell...

If yes, what are the advantages ???



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X windows...

1998-09-05 Thread Taylen
hey, I recently got a new system, and decided that maybe this time my video
card(now an STB nVidia, Riva 128 chipset, with 8 megs of vram)...anyway, I
get it setup with XF86Setup and do startx, it starts, but in 320x240
resolution, I tried doing alt+ctrl+ +or- but that wouldn't work...after
that I tried to set up the resolutions in XF86Config, but it still ends up
small, any explanation for why?

--this is with debian 1.31


Re: [Debian] ISDN - Worldwide support

1998-09-05 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 05:09:51PM +0200, Nico De Ranter wrote:
 does anybody know of an ISDN-adaptor that can be used in the 
 whole world (especially Japan and Europe) and is supported by
 Debian?
The hardware isn't the problem. This is an area where ISDN is the
same all over the world (correct me someone if I'm wrong here)

The problem is the D-channel protocol which is different everywhere. There
is DSSS1 in Europe (with a few subtle differences between the countries),
NI-1 and another one in the US and about Japan I don't know. And in Europe
there are the national ones too, like 1TR6 in Germany.

I don't know of a software that operates everywhere.

Nils

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Re: X windows...

1998-09-05 Thread David Warnock
Taylen wrote:
 
 hey, I recently got a new system, and decided that maybe this time my video
 card(now an STB nVidia, Riva 128 chipset, with 8 megs of vram)...anyway, I
 get it setup with XF86Setup and do startx, it starts, but in 320x240
 resolution, I tried doing alt+ctrl+ +or- but that wouldn't work...after
 that I tried to set up the resolutions in XF86Config, but it still ends up
 small, any explanation for why?
 
 --this is with debian 1.31

Taylen,

I am also very new indeed to Linux. But I have just got a STB Velocity
128 to work.

I suggest you look in the man pages for startx. You should see that the
default X server to start is X. On my system that was starting the wrong
server so I changed X to be a symbolic link to XF86_SVGA.

You can see if this solution will work by running XF86_SVGA directly (I
think you need to be root). It wonlt give you a menu or anything but it
should show the resolution that you will get if you do change the X
symbolic link.

Regards

Dave


deb for StarOffice 4

1998-09-05 Thread David Warnock
I have downloaded StarOffice 4. I have not seen a package to install
this (there is one for StarOffice 3.1).

a) Is there a package somewhere that will install so40sp3_lnx_01.tar.gz

b) If there is not how easy is it to create on like the one for
StarOffice 3.1 (or Netscape 4)? I am interested not just for StarOffice
but for apps we write and need to install/uninstll on our own LAN.

Thanks

Dave


running root X programs

1998-09-05 Thread Andrew

I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
for it, but without success. 

How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 



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mutt error

1998-09-05 Thread Andrew
when I try to run mutt I get: 

Need to be running setgid 0 to lock mailbox!

What do I do about this? It works fine when run as root (naturally), but
not as a user. 


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PPPD

1998-09-05 Thread Rick Smith
Hi

I ahve been trying to make it so a few of my friends can dial in to my high
speed line and get PPP access.. I read the howto and have done everything
there and still they get a Cannot establish connection check your password
( you know standard windows error) well we can all dial in normally to the
Debian box but if you try to use anything but just logging in as a
termminal it errors you out!

Any ideas will be appreciated greatly

Rick Smith


Re: PPPD

1998-09-05 Thread Peter Iannarelli
Hello Rick

Provide a trace of a dialin attempt and I'm certain
someone can tell you what is wrong.



Peter

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Subject: PPPD


Hi

I ahve been trying to make it so a few of my friends can dial in to my high
speed line and get PPP access.. I read the howto and have done everything
there and still they get a Cannot establish connection check your password
( you know standard windows error) well we can all dial in normally to the
Debian box but if you try to use anything but just logging in as a
termminal it errors you out!

Any ideas will be appreciated greatly

Rick Smith


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Re: running root X programs

1998-09-05 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
| for it, but without success. 
| 
| How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 

If you're not on a network: 'xhost +localhost' (as user)

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Re: running root X programs

1998-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Andrew wrote:

 
 I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
 for it, but without success. 
 
 How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 

Many ways...

1) su in an xterm.. no worries.

2) As root on a VC:
   # xauth -f /home/[user]/.Xauthority extract - :0 | xauth merge -
   # export DISPLAY=:0
   # [prog] 
   ... no worries.

3) the list goes on.. thats all I can think of at the mo. Anyone else?

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RE: chatscript permissions (fixed)

1998-09-05 Thread Phil Dyer
 Since I upgraded to hamm, only root is allowed to run pon.
 /var/log/ppp.log reports that my user logon does'nt have permission to

 open /etc/chatscripts/provider.  --open /etc/chatscripts/provider
failed
 :access denied.  All users have read perm.  What file is holding it
back?

The users must also have execute permission on /etc/chatscript.  This a
known bug in the ppp package.
--
That's it, just had to give execute to /etc/chatscripts.  Thanks.

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X App Launcher?

1998-09-05 Thread David Warnock
Hi,

I am using XFree86 (the suse one that supports Permedia 2 cards). I am
currently using icewm as my window manager. 

I am looking for an application launcher that will sit on my desktop and
provide direct access to applications. I guess I could change the menu
but I would prefer to lick on icons. 

I would prefer something that does not tie me into a single window
manager but it would also be nice if I could specify which virtual
window items load in.

It would be nice if it had a .deb package and was quick to setup.

What are your suggestions?

Thanks

Dave


X Background

1998-09-05 Thread David Warnock
I am using XFree86 with icewm. The desktop background is a distracting
pattern. So far I clear this (which has sort of difraction patterns at
high res) by using the fishtank application. I am quite a boring person
and wondered how to clear it to a single colour.

Thanks

Dave


Debian and Reh Hat Questions

1998-09-05 Thread Kenneth Scharf

Dinesh Nadarajah wrote:
 
 Couple of questions concerning Debian Linux:
 
 1. How can I install .deb packages in RehHat?


Not likely.  There is a prog called alien that can install a rpm
package on Debian, but it doesn't work all the time.  I don't know if
there is an equivalent for this in RH.  In general, this isn't a good
idea, as there are significant differences between the 2 distributions.
---
I have used alien to install the netscape-communicator package (.rpm)
from the redhat5.5 cd.  Since debian does not come with a netscape
package, I used the one from redhat (infact that's about the only
reason I orderd the redhat cd!)  And its a lib6c version as well.  It
works fine thank you.  Alien can also create RPM's but I'm not sure
what is required on the input.  I think you can de-package a .dep and
then re-package it into an .rpm, but you might have to edit some of
the install scripts to make RH happy.  Get the book 'Maximum RPM' if
you want to try this.
 





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Re: Asking for recomendations of AGP-motherboards

1998-09-05 Thread Ken Westerback
You might try http://www.tomshardware.com. This site specializes in
various hardware reviews, including motherboards. They currently have
several articles about AGP. They even have recommendations - but do not
in my experience mention Linux so be carefull! 

 Ken

Phillip Neumann wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I want to chage my video card to the matrox millenium g200 8 mb. I
 understand it is APG, so i need to change my motherboard and cpu too. (i
 have a 200mmx).
 
 The problem is that i dont know very much about computing, and dont know
 what motherboard to get. I need:
 1) compatibility with my computer things (*), stability.
 2) good APG support for my new video card
 3) good performance (Bus 100mhz??)
 4) some factures like overclocking, `wake up on ring', suspend to disk
 etc... (not so important..)
 I heared, mother has a chipset inside and it could be different types
 and models. I just need a good one..
 
 So can you recommend me a mother board??
 
 I have here about AOpen AX, what about it??
 
 Ahh and ``little'' note: mother board cannot be  than around 150$
     (  motherboard + video should be between 200 and
 300 US$ )
 
 (*) my computer perihapts:
 . mouse ps2
 . keyboard
 . SB16 isa
 . modem isa
 . HD
 . floppy
 . cdrom
 . 4 x 16= 64  ram, 72pines  [simms?]
 
 Thanks for information,
 
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Re: X Background

1998-09-05 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 12:45:43PM +, David Warnock wrote:
 I am quite a boring person and wondered how to clear [the X background] to
 a single colour.
xsetroot -solid name of your colour

Nils

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setting lib path

1998-09-05 Thread Kenneth Scharf
I think you might have to add /usr/local/lib to your shell path
variable.


I just installed a program that has a dynamically linked library. I
placed
the lib in /usr/local/lib and added /usr/local/lib/ to /etc/ld.so.conf
and ran ldconfig as root. However, the lib wasn't found, but putting the
lib in /lib works fine. What more should I do to get /usr/local/lib
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X windows

1998-09-05 Thread Kenneth Scharf
As X usually starts in the HIGHEST supported resolution, it appears
that your config is broken for anything better than 320x240.  This
usually happens when the server thinks that it does not have access to
enough video memory, or the proper clock rates.  Run superprobe and
see what it finds.  You may have to set the memory and clock rates by
hand in XF86Config if the probing fails.  Make sure that your monitor
is proper for the desired dot freqs (ie scan rates fast enough), and
configure your monitor properly in XF86Config.  Have you used
XF86Setup to create your config file.  This was the easiest way for me
to get mine going.
--

hey, I recently got a new system, and decided that maybe this time my
video
card(now an STB nVidia, Riva 128 chipset, with 8 megs of
vram)...anyway, I
get it setup with XF86Setup and do startx, it starts, but in 320x240
resolution, I tried doing alt+ctrl+ +or- but that wouldn't work...after
that I tried to set up the resolutions in XF86Config, but it still ends
up
small, any explanation for why?

--this is with debian 1.31




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I can not make a bootable CD for Debian 2.0

1998-09-05 Thread Ramiro Alba Queipo

Hello everyone:

I have downloaded the whole Debian 2.0 distribution in order to make
installation CDs for me
and people working in our laboratory. When I did so for the release
1.3.1 I had no problems at all
but this time I can not make the official CD bootable. The steps were
the following:

1 - Installation via ftp of a working system running Debian 2.0 -> OK
2 - Mirroring of the entire distribution using the nearest mirror ->
OK
3 - Building of a CD image using the debian-cd package and saved in
a FAT partition
4 - Burning of the CD under Windows NT using the HP CD-Writer Plus
7.200 and the Adaptec Easy CD-Creator

When I did similar steps for the burning of the Debian 1.3.1 CD, it
worked at the very first time. What is up in this case then?


Can anyone suggest an explanation. Any comment is welcome


PD: The image "resc1440.bin" in the /boot directory of the CD when put
in a disket make it bootable.

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Quick/Easy 2.0 Question: Installed permissions for /dev/dsp, /dev/audio are ...?

1998-09-05 Thread Ken Westerback
Late at night after a hard day fiddling with getting my Debian 2.0
installation working I was working on RealAudio and got so frustrated
with problems accessing /dev/dsp and /dev/audio that I changed their
permissions with 

chmod 622 /dev/dsp
chmod 622 /dev/audio

thus allowing everyone (my normal uid included) to write to them. And
RealAudio worked so I was happy and went to bed.

In the cold light of morning I realized (after reading some more) that
what I really should have done was

adduser krw audio

Now I have done this (adduser ...) and I would like to change the
permissions on /dev/dsp and /dev/audio back to what they were.

Can someone take a quick look at their Debian 2.0 installation and tell
me what the permissions are after installation? Thanks.

 Ken


Re: Debian Netscape Installer and glibc2 Communicator 4.06

1998-09-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
Jianbo Zhang wrote:
 
 Hi Debians,
 
 When I run dpkg -i netscape4_4.0.12.deb, I got some error message: it
 says that some libc5 and motif  related files could not be found.  So I
 installed Communicator 4.06 in my fresh Debian (2.0) Linux box with
 nsinstall. So far I did not find any problem, but I still do not know
 why Debian netscape installer does not work for me. Help is highly
 appreciated.
 
 Jianbo
 


The v4 installer assumes it is installing the libc5 version of NS, thus
it has dependancies on the libc5 package.  We now have libc6 versions of
NS, but there hasn't yet been an update to these Deb installers.  So you
did what you had to do (install NS without the Deb installer).  I did
the same thing.


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Re: StarOffice

1998-09-05 Thread David Frye




Subject: deb for StarOffice 4
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 10:40:04 +
From: David Warnock [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian Users Mailing List debian-user@lists.debian.org>
I have downloaded StarOffice 4. I have not seen a package to install
this (there is one for StarOffice 3.1).

a) Is there a package somewhere that will install so40sp3_lnx_01.tar.gz

b) If there is not how easy is it to create on like the one for
StarOffice 3.1 (or Netscape 4)? I am interested not just for StarOffice
but for apps we write and need to install/uninstll on our own LAN.

Thanks

Dave



To my knowledge, there is no deb package for installing StarOffice.
What you have to do is to make a directory for it, link to the old
libs it requires, and then run the StarOffice installer after editing the
paths in the install script. Here is what I did:
mkdir /usr/local/StarOffice
mkdir /usr/local/StarOffice/lib
ln -s libc.so.5 libXpm.so.4
ln -s /lib/libc.so.5.4.38 libc.so.5
./Setup
My Setup file looks like this:
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/StarOffice/lib
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
cd /mnt/StarOffice/Office40
./setup /net
Hope that this helps. It has worked for me. It works great on Debian
2.0.






Re: I'm totally confuzed!!

1998-09-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
Nathan Einwechter wrote:
 
 Help!
 I just installed Debian on my laptop and don't know where to go from here. I
 can't add any programs because I can't figure out how to dial into my
 server. Some out there! PLEASE HELP!
 


Did pppconfig work for you?  Please be a little more specific; what
exactly doesn't work.  Let's see the error message(s).


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Re: X windows...

1998-09-05 Thread Ed Cogburn
Taylen wrote:
 
 hey, I recently got a new system, and decided that maybe this time my video
 card(now an STB nVidia, Riva 128 chipset, with 8 megs of vram)...anyway, I
 get it setup with XF86Setup and do startx, it starts, but in 320x240
 resolution, I tried doing alt+ctrl+ +or- but that wouldn't work...after
 that I tried to set up the resolutions in XF86Config, but it still ends up
 small, any explanation for why?
 
 --this is with debian 1.31
 


Post your XF86Config so we can see.  Have you tried 'xf86config', it
might work better than XF86Setup.  What xserver are you using (the first
line in /etc/X11/Xserver)?


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Re: Quick/Easy 2.0 Question: Installed permissions for /dev/dsp, /dev/audio are ...?

1998-09-05 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
*-Ken Westerback [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| Late at night after a hard day fiddling with getting my Debian 2.0
| installation working I was working on RealAudio and got so frustrated
| with problems accessing /dev/dsp and /dev/audio that I changed their
| permissions with 
| 
| chmod 622 /dev/dsp
| chmod 622 /dev/audio
| 
| thus allowing everyone (my normal uid included) to write to them. And
| RealAudio worked so I was happy and went to bed.
| 
| In the cold light of morning I realized (after reading some more) that
| what I really should have done was
| 
| adduser krw audio
| 
| Now I have done this (adduser ...) and I would like to change the
| permissions on /dev/dsp and /dev/audio back to what they were.
| 
| Can someone take a quick look at their Debian 2.0 installation and tell
| me what the permissions are after installation? Thanks.

They are both crw-rw

Hint: '/dev/MAKEDEV audio' would fix it...

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wmaker 0.19

1998-09-05 Thread Paulo José da Silva e Silva
Hello,

Today I have dowloaded and isntaled wmaker 0.19 from slik (unstable)
using apt.

The instalation was OK, but I can not start wmaker now. I get the
following error message:

$ wmaker
/usr/X11R6/bin/WindowMaker: error in loading shared libraries
: undefined symbol: _Xsetlocale

I first though that it could be some change in xbase and upgraded it
too. But I still am in trouble.

Does anymone know if I should install some other package or how to solve
this?

Thanks 

Paulo

PS: I dont know if this can help, bu typing locale in my terminal I get:

$ locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE=en_US
LC_NUMERIC=en_US
LC_TIME=en_US
LC_COLLATE=en_US
LC_MONETARY=en_US
LC_MESSAGES=en_US
LC_ALL=


using debian passwords in NT.

1998-09-05 Thread Pere Camps
Hi!

Simple question:

Does anybody know of a way of making winNT use the usernames and the
passwords of a debian machine?

If so, please tell me!

Thanks!

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Megahertz combo card

1998-09-05 Thread D'jinnie
Hi - I've had this problem with Redhat (before I scrapped it) but now I
have debian so I thought I'd ask here - I've a megahertz combo card
(10baseT/28.8). Unfortunately, both cannot work at the same time! In
winblows I had to create two hardware profiles to disable respective
portions of the card...cardmgr recognizes (I think) the card and does eth0
init and THEN setserial - which blows away eth0...I thought I've gotten
rid of all mentions of setserial - but it still doesn't work, the lights
on the card blink during initialization and then go out, after I try to
ping somewhere, dmesg claims link beat lost...switching to 10base2
I would appreciate any suggestions...

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Re: Help! finding superblocks on hosed partition table

1998-09-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Wed, 02 Sep 1998 07:52:25 CDT, 
 Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
  
  Oh, dear.  Just as i decided to store the whole file system, reinit
  the hd, and reinstall, it beat me to it by one boot.  I had been
  getting error messaes from fdisk, and it wouldn't create my new
  partition 3.  (the resource busy, reboot to save message)
  
  The last act was to use mtools to copy from a dosimage to the floppy.
  The new files didn't show up on the floppy, and now there's no 
  partition table.  And I don't recall the sizes :(
  
  What I do know is that hda1 was a small (30mb?) partition for /boot.
  I forget what was on hda2, but it was small enough that hda3 could
  start in the first 1024 cylinders.  and hda4 was an extended partition.

You can create a partition table from scratch if you knew the exact geometry 
using linux fdisk.  I am not sure if you can do this without knowing it at all. 

 
  A couple of weeks ago, i read about a program to scan the disks for
  superblocks to try to solve these problems.  Does anyone recall 
  what/where it is?

The superblocks are usually located every 8k on the filesystem.  The first one 
is at block 1, second is at 8193 and so on...  You can tell e2fsck (and other 
ext2 utils such as tune2fs, dumpe2fs) the location of the superblock by using 
the -b option.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V98 #913

1998-09-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Wed, 02 Sep 1998 11:15:31 EDT, 
 Person, Rod wrote:
  I can't figure this out. I have been installing Debian for about 2 weeks
  of and on. I'm downloading from the net to a DOS partition.
  Every so often my Linux partition gives me a 'can not allocate memory
  error.' I run df and sure enough 100% of my partition is in used. Then I
  run dselect again or re-boot and I get the correct reading of 62% of the
  partition used! The last time this happened was last night. The night
  before I was using linux, but made no modification. I didn't add any
  files or remove any. I did touch and of the configuration file (the one
  that I know are anyway). I was in X using dfm to explore the structure I
  try to figure out the other problems I have. Maybe it has something to
  do with the way I logoff, that's all I can figure out. Can someone clue
  me in?

Something must be opening a huge temporary file (or not that huge, how big is 
your linux partition?), and of course, after you reboot, the file disappears.  
Look for interesting things in /tmp and try to track down when exactly the hd 
usage goes up to a 100 (i.e. which program uses all that space).

  
  
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Re: Your friends...... whatever.

1998-09-05 Thread Igor Grobman
Some time around  Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:37:55 +1200, 
 Michael Beattie wrote:
  
  Isnt that a valid reason to filter out @hotmail.com, @lycos.com etc?

I am the debian anti-spam person, and I don't like to blanketly filter on 
from: addresses.  Hotmail or lycos do not have anything to do with spammers.  
Most of the time the spammers set their from address to an invalid hotmail 
address just because that's the service they know.  However, there are more 
than a few people who use such email services legitimately.  I would rather 
block the real providers of the spammers (those that give them access and/or 
relay for them) rather than block on the from: address which does not mean 
much with spammers.

Having said that there is one exception to this rule ;-) and that is aol.com . 
It has been established that 99.9% of the mail with @aol.com from field has 
nothing to do with any topics relevant to debian lists.  Right now, all 
aol.com posts come to me, and I forward them to the list if necessary (I 
haven't had to do any of that lately).



  
  I dont know about anyone else... But that sort of [EMAIL PROTECTED] really 
  bugs me.
  Unfortunately, my spam filter wont catch stuff sent to the list.. :(
 

I am trying my best to make sure debian lists do not get spam.
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Re: Commandline FTP

1998-09-05 Thread jesse
The latest version of ncftp beta (not sure if it's in a deb tree yet) has
two additional programs, ncftpget and ncftpput, for doing exactly that, get
and put ftp operations from a script.

Available here:

http://www.probe.net/~mgleason/

On Thu, Sep 03, 1998 at 02:54:46PM -0700, Darren Benham wrote:
 Does anyone know of a program/script that will SEND files to an FTP site?  I
 know that 'ftp' can be used to RETRIEVE.  I want to upload files via a 
 makefile.
 
 
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debian 2.0, keyboard conflict with PCMCIA

1998-09-05 Thread jesse
I've successfully installed debian 2.0 on my thinkpad 560e, but I'm
still getting frequent crashes.  It boots and loads fine, and is
network accessible, but seconds after I start typing on the keyboard
it unloads the pcmcia card and reloads it.  This behavior ONLY happens 
if I type on the machine's keyboard, I can telnet in from elsewhere
and type all I like.

I've tried this with two different cards, a 3com 3c589 and a motorola
mariner, each exhibits the same behavior, and both work on a similar
laptop in slackware (and on the failing laptop in windows).

My log/messages file gets a whole series of these:

Aug 30 19:57:49 ankle kernel: loading device 'eth0'...
Aug 30 19:57:49 ankle kernel: eth0: 3Com 3c589, port 0x300, irq 3,
 Auto port, hw_addr 00:60:97:41:81:78
Aug 30 19:57:49 ankle kernel: eth0: switched to 10baseT port

And eventually it crashes the machine.

Spread out in the log is also a random sampling of other errors, very
inconsistent:

Aug 30 15:01:31 ankle kernel: eth0: 91c92 hardware Tx buffer allocation failed, 
status 0xff. 
Aug 30 15:02:03 ankle kernel: eth0: SMC91c92 transmit timed out, Tx_status ff 
status . 
Aug 30 15:02:03 ankle kernel: eth0: 91c92 hardware Tx buffer allocation failed, 
status 0xff. 
Aug 30 15:02:12 ankle kernel: smc91c92_cs: Unable to find hardware address. 
Aug 30 15:02:15 ankle kernel: smc91c92_cs: using 8-bit IO window. 
Aug 30 15:02:15 ankle kernel: smc91c92_cs: Yikes!  Bad chip signature! 
Aug 30 15:02:15 ankle kernel: smc91c92_cs: Yikes!  Bad chip signature! 
Aug 30 15:02:15 ankle kernel: eth0: 91c92 hardware Tx buffer allocation failed, 
status 0xff. 
Aug 30 15:02:45 ankle last message repeated 4 times
Aug 30 15:03:00 ankle last message repeated 3 times
Aug 30 16:05:34 ankle kernel: memory_cs: mem0: anonymous: unknown size 

But in spite of these ominous looking errors, the ethernet stays up
fine (I was able to install debian via FTP!) as long as I don't type
on the keyboard.

The errors above are pretty rare, mostly it just cycles through the
unloading/loading messages without any errors.   

I've tried excluding the IRQ/port, but that had no effect.
/proc/interrupts and /proc/ioports look okay anyway:

# cat /proc/interrupts
 0:3960057   timer
 1:  4   keyboard
 2:  0   cascade
 3:   3119   3c589_cs
11:  1   i82365
12: 44   PS/2 Mouse
13:  1   math error
14: 210238 + ide0
# cat /proc/ioports
-001f : dma1
0020-003f : pic1
0040-005f : timer
0060-006f : keyboard
0080-008f : dma page reg
00a0-00bf : pic2
00c0-00df : dma2
00f0-00ff : npu
01f0-01f7 : ide0
0300-030f : 3c589_cs
03c0-03df : vga+
03e0-03e1 : i82365
03f0-03f5 : floppy
03f6-03f6 : ide0
03f7-03f7 : floppy DIR
03f8-03ff : serial(set)

(for completeness) 
 
# uname -a
Linux ankle 2.0.34 #13 Sun Aug 30 21:17:55 PDT 1998 i586 unknown

# lsmod
Module PagesUsed by
psaux  11 (autoclean)
3c589_cs   21
ds 2[3c589_cs]  3
i82365 42
pcmcia_core8[3c589_cs ds i82365]4

I've read everything I can find, and the only person I found with the
same error gave up on his machine.  Does anyone have any ideas?


Re: How to install via nfs, ftp?

1998-09-05 Thread Oleksiy \(alex\) Bolgarov
Jan Krupa wrote:
 
 I used rawrite2 to prepare two 1440 floppies: resc1440.bin
 and drv1440.bin (from Linux/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current/).
 I booted compter from floppy resc1440.bin and then installed modules and
 drivers from floppy drv1440.bin then configured modules and drivers
 (installed support for nfs, eth0, network card) then configured
 network( host name, domain name computer's IP address,...).
 After that I chose to install *the base system* via nfs but did not know
 how to type the  name of nfs server. e.g. I tried
 to type 'debian.org/dist but it did not work.
 
 Could someone please explain to me how to install debian
 via nfs or ftp ? I mean which floppies should I prepare and
 how to type the name of the nfs server ?
 
 Of course I have other possibility to install the base system
 from 5 floppies but what then ? The file basecont.txt shows that
 the 5 floppies do not contain e.g. ftp.
 
 For now the only way I see to install debian on my computer is
 to buy distribution on CD-ROM but it would be faster(earlier) to install
 via ftp.
 

Well, I have now Debian Linx installed via ftp, and I have no
distribution CD - so I can assure you that it is possible...

I had done following: 

I had Windows NT running on my computer (and it runs now as well,
as second OS).

First of all, I very attentively studied Debian Linux Instalation
Guide on Debian web site (most important was infornation about how to
use dselect - I started installation only after I was pretty sure 
that installation by ftp was possible, and that I understand all steps
necessary for this).

Using Windows browser, I downloaded all disk images from Debian
web site (resc1440, drv1440, and five base14-*), prepared seven
disks  (using rawrite.exe), and just installed base system,
following quite simple instructions of installation program
(why do they complain that installing Linux is a complicated
task?). I did not try to install something from ftp when
installation started dselect as it's last step, I just exited 
from dselect.

After installation was finished, I make sure that I can
boot my computer into NT as before, and into Linux from floppy
(I did not install LILO during installation, and did create
a boot floppy - I have a (usefull) habit of creating all boot/resque/...
floppies whenever installations of various OSes suggest this ;)

(And as a side note, I _strongly_ suggest to anybody who
is installing Linux, to make all possible precautions
to be sure that he/she will be able to boot up previous
OS if something goes wrong - for my case, I had refreshed
set of NT rescue disks, and did not try to install LILO into
MBR of first drive. So I was sure I could search Internet
for answers to problems, or read documentation directories
on the distribution CD, if I had one)

Well, at this point I had a working Linux configuration.

Next step was to configure ppp connection to my ISP.
I do not remember how exactly I have done this - this was 
one month ago, and at that time I was trying to install three
different versions of Linux (RedHat from CD from a book
I purchased at local bookstore, then SuSE from their ftp
site, and finally Debian), and I remember that for one installation
I had gone manually through all steps as was described in PPP-HOWTO,
for other I used pppconfig script, but I don't remember for which
installation. I think, that base debian system that is installed from
floppies already have pppconfig, so you can use it
to configure ppp. (and anyway, if you are not a serial-line
communications expert, reading of PPP-HOWTO is a good thing.)

So, i typed 'pon' on command line and waited for lights on my
modem to show me that internet connection was up. Then, I
started 'dselect' from command line, and configured 
'Access method' to use ftp. I used the default ftp site and
directories - the ones dselect suggested itself, so I just 
hit Enter to each question.

Then, dselect conected to this ftp site and downloaded
list of packages, and from this everything was reasonable
straightforward (if you can adopt ugly dselect's keyboard
interface, and do not panic when it waits between some operations
for long time with blank screen). One of first things I
downloaded was Midnight Commander ;)

Since then, I installed via ftp X11, Netscape, KDE, 
even new Debian installer 'apt' from unstable directories -
and it works much more pleasant then dpkg - it shows progress
of download, for example, which is quite important for
good health of your soul, if you have internal modem without
those joyfully blinking lights... Rrecently I've got XEmacs
and now I'm learning it...

So, it is quite possible to have Linux been installed 
directly from Internet.

Well, reading again your message, it seams to me that
possible your problem was not to have up internet connection -
as far as I understend, you tryed to use nfs access when
installation started dselect as final step? (By the way, 
I'm not sure that it is possible at all have nfs 

Re: Debian and Reh Hat Questions

1998-09-05 Thread Noel Yap
Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
 Dip is for an old package called 'dip'. It was sort of line 'pon' I think. 
 Since the
 package has long since gone away I find it annoying we're still stuck with 
 the group.

On the contrary, dip is still available in slink.  I use it to dial up
my ISP since it's the only package that does SLIP.

Noel

~ $ dpkg --status dip
Package: dip
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: net
Installed-Size: 202
Maintainer: Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 3.3.7p-2
Replaces: netstd (= 2.14)
Depends: libc6, liblockdev0g
Conffiles:
 /etc/diphosts 7cbf2c9d02415cd75fafac56a6c62dc8
 /etc/slip.dip 0907d6a1717749ea2827498f5bfa4ec5
 /etc/ppp.dip 4fbc6b28e998e7fa098d08e0ab1efae4
Description: Tool for handling SLIP/PPP dialup IP connections
 This program handles the connections needed for dialup IP links, like
 SLIP or PPP. It can handle both incoming and outgoing connections,
 using password security for incoming connections.


Re: X windows...

1998-09-05 Thread Noel Yap
David Warnock wrote:
 I suggest you look in the man pages for startx. You should see that the
 default X server to start is X. On my system that was starting the wrong
 server so I changed X to be a symbolic link to XF86_SVGA.
  
On a Debian system, /usr/bin/X11/X is not a symlink at all but actually
a wrapper program that checks the file /etc/X11/Xserver for the proper X
server to call.  You'll want the first line in that file to read
/usr/bin/X11/XF86_SVGA.  See /usr/doc/xbase/README.Debian for more
information.

Noel


Re: running root X programs

1998-09-05 Thread chandran
From the xhost manpages, ``xhost +local:'' should work better than +localhost,
if you are on a network; this only allows clients on the local machine to 
display X clients.

Chandran

 If you're not on a network: 'xhost +localhost' (as user)

Andrew wrote on Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 10:53:01PM +1200..

 I know this has been addressed before, I've tried searching the archives
 for it, but without success. 
 
 How do you run an X program as root whilst still in a user X session? 

Why search list archives when the info is on your system?

$ man -k x
xhost (1)- server access control program for X


can't mount floppy

1998-09-05 Thread Hank Fay
I rebuilt my kernel (Hamm) for firewalling, and included the floppy support
option.  However, since then I can't mount the floppy drive.  I see it
recognized (fd0) at boot up, but when I

mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy

I'm told that fs type msdos is not supported by the kernel.  When I try vfat
the same.  When I try ext2, I'm told it is not a valid block device.

Any ideas appreciated.  This did work before the kernel rebuild, from
install.


Thanks,

Hank



Re: can't mount floppy

1998-09-05 Thread chandran
You need msdos fs support in the kernel, as the error message says.  Add this
support as a module so you won't have to reboot to enable it.

Chandran

Hank Fay wrote on Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 03:37:27PM -0400..
 I rebuilt my kernel (Hamm) for firewalling, and included the floppy support
 option.  However, since then I can't mount the floppy drive.  I see it
 recognized (fd0) at boot up
 
 I'm told that fs type msdos is not supported by the kernel.  When I try vfat
 the same.  When I try ext2, I'm told it is not a valid block device.
 
 Hank


Re: Inferno

1998-09-05 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 02:16:39 + Phillip Neumann writes:
 
 Hi,
 Im wondering if someone is running ``Inferno'' somewhere
 Its a network OS from Bell...
 
 If yes, what are the advantages ???

Take a look into the comp.os.inferno newsgroup.  Maybe there are FAQs
or something similiar posted.

Torsten


HP Kayak and Debian linux

1998-09-05 Thread eric stern
Hi,

I am trying to put Debian linux on an HP Kayak machine.  I've put
Debian on a bunch of other machines before, but this one is
giving me problems unlike any I've seen.  The system has a
Symbios 53C875 SCSI controller with one disk, an IDE interface
connected to the CDROM, an integrated ethernet network
interface of some HP flavor, and a graphics card based on a
Cirrus Logic chip.

I'm loading the system from a Debian 2.0 distribution CD.  I've
got the base system loaded, but getting the network interface
configured is a problem.  There are no IRQ conflicts but Windows
95 cheerfully reports a conflict that the ethernet interace, the
SCSI controller, and the PCI-PCI bridge are all sharing an area
in memory and in IO space.  Windows doesn't seem to have a
problem with this, but whenever I try to ifconfig the ethernet
device it is reported as busy.  Does anyone have any clues on
this?  Turning PnP on or off in the CMOS setup doesn't seem to
have any effect on this.

Thanks,

-- 
Eric Stern
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


X Windows

1998-09-05 Thread spOOL
First of all, HUGE THANKS  to everyone who has answered my questions over
the past few weeks. Just to let you know, I actually have X running now. 

Now my ???

1.  Is there a different way to install packages while in X or should I
still be using dselect??
2.  What/How/Where/Who/When do I install to access a Winblow$ 95 filesystem.
The W95 filesystem is the first partition on my drive.
3.  I want to install WINEare there any steps that I need to take 
first???
4.  Everytime I reinstall(because I did something stupid) I get a dependency
error that says something like can't install auctext(sp??) dependency
problems and then it says something like involves emacs20. Everything
seems to work fine. Any ideas???
5.  How do I get rid of my ppp connection when i'm done?
6.  Can I set ppp to start automatically when I need it??

that should do it for now

THANKS TO EVERYONE



Re: wmaker

1998-09-05 Thread Michael Montz
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:

 (Before somebody asks: I *am* uploading -- or trying to -- 0.19.1-1 right
 now)

Has this happen yet?

Regards,
Michael


PON As Normal User

1998-09-05 Thread DMDP
If there anyway to have a normal user access PON?

If not, is there a way to enable dial up access to an ISP for a normal user
using some other utility?

Thanks,

Denis


Re: ppp connection with Demon

1998-09-05 Thread shaul
Perhaps I can help you a bit:

1) PPP HOWTO and /usr/doc/ppp/* help a lot.

2) You might did it already, but one thing to do when trying to test the 
connection is to log in as root. This way you can eliminate problems that can 
rise because of unsatisfactory permitions untill after you know you can 
establish the connection.
  
 
 I have never used linux before, so I'm groping around a bit.
 
 I am trying to connect to Demon Internet using a chatscript. The server =
 is able to use either PAP or text-based login, but I got furthest with =
 text-based. I set ppp up with pppconfig and I have checked the =
 /etc/ppp/peers/Demon it created and the chatscript it refers to.
 I have a static IP address but when pon gets to the IP entry in =
 peers/Demon it says my IP address command not recognised or =
 something like that.
 I have tried making the connection with minicom, which happens really =
 slowly (I don't know how fast it should go). I got the connection speed =
 back (56K) and the server's address then:
 login:
 password:
 protocol: (I entered ppp)
 host: (my username) IP: (my IP, which is static)
 ppp begun at (something) mail maintenance completed. routing problems =
 with (something or other) fixed. finger (an address) for info. L
 and it stops there. If ppp was being set up, I would have seen some =
 garbage wouldn't I?
 Since it tells me my address anyway, I removed the IP address from =
 peers/Demon and tried pon again. This time it got through the login =
 sequence, including the protocol bit, then (plog) said serial connection =
 established. ifconfig only showed loopback. After a while plog said that =
 LCP timeout sending config requests. At no point could I use anything =
 that needed a ppp connection.

3) It seems to me that you can't establish a ppp connection because 
/etc/ppp/options or /etc/ppp/peers/Demon does not contain the correct 
switches. Perhaps you can try to read pppd man page and /etc/options to learn 
what flags are needed for your connection.

 
 I'm confused and I'd be very grateful for any help.
 

4) Try to enable debugging info and learn from that what is wrong. Maybe 
debugging info + trying different pppd switches can help you solve your 
problem.

5) Sending debugging info to the list can help others to isolate the problem.





Re: wmaker

1998-09-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
It showed up in slink earlier today.

On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, Michael Montz wrote:

 Marcelo E. Magallon wrote:
 
  (Before somebody asks: I *am* uploading -- or trying to -- 0.19.1-1 right
  now)
 
 Has this happen yet?
 
 Regards,
 Michael
 
 
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Re: PON As Normal User

1998-09-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
Add the user to the group dip.

On Sat, 5 Sep 1998, DMDP wrote:

 If there anyway to have a normal user access PON?
 
 If not, is there a way to enable dial up access to an ISP for a normal user
 using some other utility?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Denis
 
 
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Re: X Windows

1998-09-05 Thread Ken Westerback
1. ... don't know (I'm still using dselect, haven't tried apt)

2. Make sure you have fat/vfat  msdos support compiled in your kernel
and then mount (manually or via some entry in fstab) your Win9x
partition with the command 'mount -t msdos /dev/hdxx /mnt' where hdxx is
replaced by you partition id, and /mnt replaced with your desired mount
point. There is another set of tools (mtools?) that may offer another
method.

3. ... haven't played with it

4. You may be having the same problem I had (and found the solution for
on this mailing list) - the 'tm' package. Run dselect and 'purge' that
package. When I did that emacs installed fine.

5. If you are using pon to start it up, then poff will end it. 

6. ... Still working on this myself

 Ken
spOOL wrote:
 
 First of all, HUGE THANKS  to everyone who has answered my questions over
 the past few weeks. Just to let you know, I actually have X running now.
 
 Now my ???
 
 1.  Is there a different way to install packages while in X or should I
 still be using dselect??
 2.  What/How/Where/Who/When do I install to access a Winblow$ 95 
 filesystem.
 The W95 filesystem is the first partition on my drive.
 3.  I want to install WINEare there any steps that I need to take 
 first???
 4.  Everytime I reinstall(because I did something stupid) I get a 
 dependency
 error that says something like can't install auctext(sp??) dependency
 problems and then it says something like involves emacs20. Everything
 seems to work fine. Any ideas???
 5.  How do I get rid of my ppp connection when i'm done?
 6.  Can I set ppp to start automatically when I need it??
 
 that should do it for now
 
 THANKS TO EVERYONE
 
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 Unsubscribe?  mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /dev/null


Re: X Background

1998-09-05 Thread David Warnock
Nils Rennebarth wrote:
 
 On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 12:45:43PM +, David Warnock wrote:
  I am quite a boring person and wondered how to clear [the X background] to
  a single colour.

Nils,

Great thanks, just what I wanted.

Dave