Re: Creando Anonymous FTP

1998-11-30 Thread Jose Luis Trivino
Ramiro Alba Queipo wrote:
 
 Hola a todos:
 
 Estoy intentando poner en marcha un FTP anonymous con el unico
 
 proposito de poner en RED un CD de datos.
 
 Consigo conectarme sin problemas, pero cuando hago 'ls' NO VEO NADA
 
 y sin embargo la informacion está ahi porque puede cambiarme con cd
 
 a los direcctorios del CD-ROM.

Has probado a dar permiso de lectura a los directorios
chmod -R ugo+r directorio_ftp

Hasta mas bits, 

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Debian y KDE

1998-11-30 Thread Nacho Priego
Alguien sabe cual es la nueva posicion oficial de Debian respecto a KDE
ahora que la version 2.0 de Qt va a ser libre (a nuestro estilo)?

Nacho Priego - Alive in the SpanishUnknown


Re: Quiero jugar en KDE

1998-11-30 Thread Conrado Badenas
Nacho Priego wrote:
 
 He buscado el paquee libstdc++2.9 que hace falta para instalar los juegos
 del KDE, pero no lo encuentro en formato debian (ni en la Hamm ni en la
 Slink). Alguien sabe donde esta?

Me acabo de conectar a ftp://ftp.de.debian.org y lo he encontrado en
/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/base/libstdc++2.9_2.91.58-5.deb. El
fichero tiene 93k y fecha Nov 23 18:40.

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Re: VGA16 con una DIAMMOND, porque ???

1998-11-30 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 01:56:14PM -0800, Lord Of Linux wrote:
 Tengo una pentium 133 con una tarjeta diammond Stealth 3d
 2000 4 Mb !!! :_)
 Me ha trabajado bien en otra distribuciones sin problemas
 pero tengo problemas con esa tarjeta en  el debian 2.0 hamm
 en el XF86Setup seleciono la Diammond y la S3v como serve 
 termino la instalacion
 al escribir xinit --bpp 16
 veo que al matar el xinit me dice VGA16  como server usado
 alguien sabe que esta pasando ??

¿Qué pone en tu /etc/X11/Xserver?

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El libstdc++2.9 PETA!!! era Re: Quiero jugar en KDE

1998-11-30 Thread Sergio Gomez Bachiller
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Conrado Badenas wrote:

 Nacho Priego wrote:
  
  He buscado el paquee libstdc++2.9 que hace falta para instalar los juegos
  del KDE, pero no lo encuentro en formato debian (ni en la Hamm ni en la
  Slink). Alguien sabe donde esta?
 
 Me acabo de conectar a ftp://ftp.de.debian.org y lo he encontrado en
 /debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/base/libstdc++2.9_2.91.58-5.deb. El
 fichero tiene 93k y fecha Nov 23 18:40.
 

Acabo de instalar ese paquete via apt-get/dselect como actualizacion
semanal de hamm a slink y tras instalarlo muchos programas me petan, por
ejemplo: el dselect y el telnet, la salida que recibo es:

rabcee02:~# dselect
dselect: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
Finalizó 127

¿Que se supone que tengo que hacer, avisar al que mantiene el paquete?
¿Alguien sabe donde puedo encontrar aún la versión anterior?

Un saludo,

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Re: VGA16 con una DIAMMOND, porque ???

1998-11-30 Thread Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez
Hoal :

 Tengo una pentium 133 con una tarjeta diammond Stealth 3d
 2000 4 Mb !!! :_)
 Me ha trabajado bien en otra distribuciones sin problemas
 pero tengo problemas con esa tarjeta en  el debian 2.0 hamm
 en el XF86Setup seleciono la Diammond y la S3v como serve 
 termino la instalacion
 al escribir xinit --bpp 16
 veo que al matar el xinit me dice VGA16  como server usado
 alguien sabe que esta pasando ??

La primera linea en el archivo

/etc/X11/Xserver

debe ser :

/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3V

seguro, ahora debe estar 

/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16

si fuese haci, substitelo.

Espero que esto funcione.

Hernán.

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   Instituto de Física da USP
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Re: Problema con CDROM PIONEER

1998-11-30 Thread Pere Camps
Hola!

  problema que tengo con todas las distribuciones de linux. Resulta que mi
  unidad de CDROM es un PIONEER DR A-24x 104 y al parecer no es exactamente
  ATAPI.

en el lilo.conf:

append=hdc=cdrom

Y ya te irá bien. :-)

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netscape y acentos

1998-11-30 Thread Pere Camps
Hola!

Alguien a conseguido hacer funcionar los acentos en el netscape
messenger?

Más datos de mi configuración:
Debian 2.0 hamm
Netscape 4.5 libc5 (supported version), la version de libc6 se
me colgaba demasiado.

Gracias por adelantado,

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Lenguaje de programación para gestión

1998-11-30 Thread David
Hola, soy un aficionado a quien le gusta hacer programas sobre gestión
mayoritariamente, y me encuentro con una duda.
He leído muchos artículos sobre Linux y en comparación con windows es
superior; sólo le falta mejorar la facilidad de uso.
El problema es elegir un lenguaje/s ideal para tal tarea.

Gestión de datos --- Visual Foxpro o Visual Basic ---Windows
  ---
¿? ---Linux

Tengo instalado la Debian y tengo que reconocer que no es muy facil; por
lo menos si estás acostumbrado con windows, pero poquito a poco voy
aprendiendo. No se me ha colgado esta ahora, cosa que no puedo decir de
windows. Quiero darle mas oportunidades a Linux pero tengo que encontrar
un lenguaje en el que hacer los programas.
Podéis darme vuestra opinión ?

Un saludo,
David





RE: Lenguaje de programación para gestión

1998-11-30 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez

Hola, soy un aficionado a quien le gusta hacer programas sobre gestión
mayoritariamente, y me encuentro con una duda.
He leído muchos artículos sobre Linux y en comparación con windows es
superior; sólo le falta mejorar la facilidad de uso.
El problema es elegir un lenguaje/s ideal para tal tarea.

Gestión de datos --- Visual Foxpro o Visual Basic ---Windows
  ---
¿? ---Linux

Tengo instalado la Debian y tengo que reconocer que no es muy facil; por
lo menos si estás acostumbrado con windows, pero poquito a poco voy
aprendiendo. No se me ha colgado esta ahora, cosa que no puedo decir de
windows. Quiero darle mas oportunidades a Linux pero tengo que encontrar
un lenguaje en el que hacer los programas.
Podéis darme vuestra opinión ?

Un saludo,
David


Prueba con Tcl/Tk. Hay una VisualTcl que es bastante majo (paquete
vtcl??.deb).

Suerte,
Javi



Re: Lenguaje de programación para gestión

1998-11-30 Thread Berenice Hypatia
 Tengo instalado la Debian y tengo que reconocer que no es muy facil; por
 lo menos si estás acostumbrado con windows, pero poquito a poco voy
 aprendiendo. No se me ha colgado esta ahora, cosa que no puedo decir de
 windows. Quiero darle mas oportunidades a Linux pero tengo que encontrar
 un lenguaje en el que hacer los programas.
 Podéis darme vuestra opinión ?

Hola, 

Te doy mi opinion: 

En primera instancia, de lo mas facil para programar en linux existe el
PERL (Conforme vas aprendiendo puedes hacer cosas sorprendentes en
poquisimas lineas), aparte tiene modulos de interface para todos los
manejadores de bases de datos SQL que te puedas imaginar, asi como otros
tantos modulos para interfaces con el usuario, tanto en medio ambiente
grafico como en consola-termninal. 

Por otro lado , si estas mas o menos acostumbrado al Visual Basic, quiza
debas empezar con Visual TCL / TK, que para diseñar interfaces graficas
esta mas o menos igual. 

Por cierto, hay modulos para usar TK desde Perl. 

Disculpame por no recordar las direcciones exactas, pero estoy segura de
que las podras encontrar facilmente en http://www.altavista.com.

Ciao.


SiS 6326 (AGP)

1998-11-30 Thread Enzo A. Dari
Hola gente!
Alguien sabe si se puede usar una tarjeta grafica
SIS 6326 (usa el port AGP) con el Xfree 3.3.2.2 (de la Hamm)?
En la documentacion aparecen varias SiS, pero no exactamente
ese modelo. El modelo es el reportado por Windows '98, trate
de fijarme en el chip, pero esta tapado por un disipador.
El XF86Setup no se puede usar (no se cuelga, pero no se ve 
la informacion en la pantalla).
Se agradecen sugerencias.

PD: momentamente estoy de-suscripto a la lista, por favor
enviar respuestas a mi direccion particular:
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Xemacs/auctex

1998-11-30 Thread Sebastian Canagaratna
Hi:

I have just installed Debian Linux 2 and xemacs20 and emacs19
with all the necessary files ( I think ). The emacs works fine
with auctex, but the xemacs seems to go into latex
mode but the menu items don't appear. ( I have installed the
same thing on my home computer and it works fine ). Clearly
I am missing something, but I have gone through all the files
necessary according to Packages, and everything is installed.
How do I debug this to find out what's wrong? When I call
up a .tex file the menu changes from the usual Elisp file
menus, but it is not the menu items which appear on the emacs19
when is run ( LaTeX, Command etc ). dpkg -C does not show that
anything is broken.

Will be grateful for any help.

Thanks

Sebastian Canagaratna
Department of Chemistry
Ohio Northern University
Ada, OH 45810 


gimp error

1998-11-30 Thread S Lim
I installed gimpk 1.0.0-1 and gtk 0.0.2-1 using dselect on hamm but 
I got this message when I start gimp:
 
 ** WARNING **: file gdkfont.c: line 115 (gdk_font_ref): font != NULL
 
 ** WARNING **: file gdkfont.c: line 177 (gdk_font_equal): fonta != NULL
 
 ** WARNING **: file gdkfont.c: line 115 (gdk_font_ref): font != NULL
 
 gimp fatal error: sigsegv caught
 [n]othing, [e]xit, [s]tack trace, [a]ttach to process: a

However, I could run gimp remotely. I thought my X-server does not have
enough font installed. So I installed all font packages can be found in
debian 
but gimp still give the same complaints. X always complain that it can not
find
Adobe Helvetica font when it starts. 

What is wrong and how can I correct it? Please reply to my email address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I have been trying unsuccessfully to subscribe to debian-user list.

TIA

Suryani.
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University of Melbourne   
Parkville, Victoria 3052
Australia

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Re: Compress

1998-11-30 Thread Will Lowe
 Anyone know where I can get 'compress' program?

Probably nowhere for linux.  The algorithm it uses is patented,  so it's
not legal to write Free Software versions of it (although gzip can
_un_compress files that have been compressed with compress).  Your best
bet is to either use gzip (it works better anyway) or use compress on a
solaris box.

Will


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Re: How to config XF98_MGA

1998-11-30 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Cesare Tagliaferri wrote:

 On dom, 29 nov 1998, cj wrote:
 Hi!
   
My computer's card is Matrox AGP G100,Now I downloaded a server 
  XF98_MGA.It's only one file 
 after uncompress and i put it to /usr/bin/X11,change the config in 
 /etc/XF86Config and Xserver.
 But it doesn't work.After startx,it report can't find the server.
 
 Did you update the symbolic links /usr/bin/X11/X and /etc/X11/X ? They 
 must
 point to your server.
 

NO! X is a wrapper script in Debian, which calls the Server itself. As
mentioned, check that the absolute path to your Server is on the first
line of /etc/X11/Xserver.  All that the wrapper script does, is setup some
security bits and pieces.

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Re: Compress

1998-11-30 Thread Adam J. Klein
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 02:57:39PM -0600, Andrew Ivanov wrote:
 Anyone know where I can get 'compress' program?

In the 'ncompress' package.

Adam


Re: expect script with ppp and stty forces reboot

1998-11-30 Thread Colin Telmer
On 29 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I talk with the modem in the expect script as follows:
 
  system stty 38400 -echoe -echo raw  /dev/ttyS1  /dev/ttyS1
  spawn -noecho -open [open /dev/ttyS1 r+]
 
 Why do you need to do this?  Pppd will just reconfigure the serial port to
 its satisfaction when it comes up. 

I did that following the example /usr/doc/ppp/examples/secure-card. I
don't know any other way for expect to communicate with the modem. I was
partially wrong about one thing in my previous post - if the first system
line is commented out, the script runs (although it connects at 9600 baud)
but it also hangs on the second try.
 
 If you are just using the expect script to dial and negotiate a connection,
 it would be much easier to use pppd's 'connect' option.  One way to do this
 is to create a file in /etc/ppp/peers/ just like the ones pppconfig makes
 (naming it 'my_office', for example), but replace 
 
   connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider
 
 with
 
 connect /usr/bin/expect /etc/chatscripts/my_office
 
 Then you will be able to connect to your office with 'pon my_office'
 and disconnect with 'poff'.

I tried this a number of times, but I could not figure out how to get
expect to not disconnect the modem connection after exiting. I thought the
overlay command would do this, but it explicitly wants a command to take
the connection. I would prefer to do it that way - any suggestions? Also,
in regards to your first question, even if I could get it going in this
preferable fashion, wouldn't I still need to point expect at the serial
port using the system and spawn commands above?

  overlay -0 $spawn_id -1 $spawn_id /usr/sbin/pppd /dev/ttyS1 38400
 
 Do you really need to run as slow as 38400?
No, I should have changed that. However, when the connection is first
established, it comes up as 38400 in the expect script output. Does pppd
have the ability to speed this up? Also, if I leave out the stty command
from above, the connection is established at 9600 baud.

  This works fine (as far as I can tell), but after disconnecting using
  poff,...
 
 Which kills pppd, causing it to put the serial port back the way it found
 it, i.e., as your stty command set it up.

I don't understand that. I can issue the stty command any number of times
before the ppp connection and it always returns. Only after the ppp
connection is disconnected using poff is when the stty command hangs.
Given my lack of understanding of this stuff, I thought that I was doing
something analogous to leaving the serial port busy so I could not access
it again, but I don't know how to figure that out.

Thanks again for your help, I really appreciate it. This would be a great
deal easier if I didn't need to have an interactive script to ask for a
one-time passphrase. Cheers, Colin.



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Re: reinstallation of system with full complement ...

1998-11-30 Thread David S. Jackson
So then Martin Bialasinski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said . . .

 
  AED == Alan Eugene Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 AED My system is pretty richly endowed with installed software, but is in 
 need
 AED of some rejuvenation---a reinstall from scratch. 
 [...]
 AED I would appreciate any suggestions on upgrading.  I don't want to lose
 AED software I've compiled myself, but I want to install debian from scratch.
 
 If you just installed into /usr/local, then this is easy.
 
 Save /home/ /etc/ and /usr/local/ (using tar or such).
 
 dpkg --get-selections  select.dpkg
 
 will save your package selections.
 
 wipe the partitions, install the base system, then do a 
 
 dpkg --set-selections  select.dpkg
 
 and choose the install option in dpkg. (Maybe apt-get upgrade will
 also do it after setting the selection).

You could still have problems with legacy libraries, especially X-related
libraries.  Maybe you could take an inventory with something like

dpkg -S lib | grep lib[IMPSXanowx] | more

If you're keeping libraries segregated on your system for special use with
certain applications (that conflict with other libraries on the system) you
might want to pay attention to this.  

Good luck!
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Re: Netscape - Newbie Linux User

1998-11-30 Thread Damir J. Naden
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED]; unless Mutt is confused, you wrote:
 
   Subject: Netscape - Newbie Linux User
   Date: Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 12:27:53AM -0500
 
 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  
  Wuz up all?
  
  Alright here is my problem.  I have Debian 2.0 installed.  I downloaded
  [navigator-v45-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar] from ftp6.netscape.com.  I
  installed it and everything.  Now when ever I go to the installed dir
  [/usr/local/netscape] and i type ./netscape it gets an error message
  [unable to load library libXpm.so.4].  I then did a search with dselect to
  find the package [xpm4.7] which contains the [libXpm.so.4] lib.  Then i did
  dpkg -i xpm4.7 and it wouldn't install it.  I don't wanna go through with
  dselect because that takes forever!  And apt doesn't work with my cd-rom :(
Any suggestions?

 Use lynx, take a look in the debian-user archives.  There have been a
 _bunch_ of people with the same problem.  I recall that you have to
 download 4-5 packages to get it working 'the debian' way. Look for
 mail from Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] as he found most of the
 answers to the problem.
 
 HTH
  
  Thanx 
  
  NoDg

I am using non-debianized _libc6 (aka glibc)_ version of netscape4.5 with slink 
debian without this problem. I think the package you need woud be xpm4g (which 
is libc6 based) and _not_ xpm4.7 (which is libc5 based). My libXpm.so.4 is part
of the xpm4g package.
HTH

damir


xfstt obsoleted?

1998-11-30 Thread Gossamer

xfstt has suddenly started showing up in my dselect list as
Obselete!  What replaces it?  I like truetype fonts in X.


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Installation problems with 2.0.2

1998-11-30 Thread Tom Anzalone
To anyone who can help me,

I have tried to install Debian 2.0.2 several times but I get the
following error when I get to the installation of the kernal:

Floppy Error!
The attempt to extract the Rescue Floppy failed.

The intial parts of the installation work fine ( i.e. setting up swap
and boot partitions, etc..)

I have Red Hat 5.1 on the same machine and that installed without a
problem.  I also tried to boot from floppy and then install from CD
rather than just from the CD and that still  didn't work.  Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

Tom Anzalone
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Permission(s) /etc/skel

1998-11-30 Thread William Flores
I have a couple of ??'s here...and I'm still new to linux...but have felt
that I have looked everywhere for it...

1st question:  I have /etc/skel w/ public_html in it...  I have /etc/skel
setup for the following permissions.

drwx--x--x   3 root root 1024 Nov 29 12:45 skel

I also have public_html setup for:

drwx--x--x   2 root root 1024 Nov 29 12:45 public_html

Now when I do adduser temp2 .. this is what happens to these two
directories under /home

drwxr-sr-x   3 temp2temp21024 Nov 29 14:25 temp2

now public_html
drwx--s--x   2 temp2temp21024 Nov 29 14:25 public_html

Why do these not show up as the way they are supposed to?  
The main thing I am trying to accomplish is to make sure other users are
not able to see up above their own directory.  The only way I can fix this
is via chmod go-r and go-s on the above files.  What do I do???

2nd Question:  I have a file index.html in the public_html directory and
here is what it looks like:

-rw-r--r--   1 temp2temp2 961 Nov 29 14:25 index.html 

This file pulls up correctly under /~temp2/index.html

Now if I were to u/l a file via WS_FTP say download.html here is what happens:

-rw-r-   1 temp2temp23886 Nov 29 14:32 download.html
-rw-r--r--   1 temp2temp2 961 Nov 29 14:25 index.html

Now look at the difference between index and download  Also I am not
able to pull download.html up via my browser I get a permission denied
message.  In order to fix this I would need to chmod o+r.

Please help.. I would hate to have to fix each users' directory...my
fingers would get really really tired.

Thanks in advance.

William Flores
System Operator


Re: Permission(s) /etc/skel

1998-11-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 08:33:03PM -0600, William Flores wrote:
 I have a couple of ??'s here...and I'm still new to linux...but have felt
 that I have looked everywhere for it...
 
 1st question:  I have /etc/skel w/ public_html in it...  I have /etc/skel
 setup for the following permissions.
snip ls output

Is the /home directory sgid as well? I believe this is why the other
directories become +s. Either way I personally prefer to setup
adduser.conf to not create groups for each user but instead use group
users or staff, then you can chmod -s /home.

 Why do these not show up as the way they are supposed to?  
 The main thing I am trying to accomplish is to make sure other users are
 not able to see up above their own directory.  The only way I can fix this
 is via chmod go-r and go-s on the above files.  What do I do???

The permission you showed will do that. Each user is created with their
own group, meaning that group permissions only apply to them.

snip
 Now if I were to u/l a file via WS_FTP say download.html here is what happens:
 
 -rw-r-   1 temp2temp23886 Nov 29 14:32 download.html
 -rw-r--r--   1 temp2temp2 961 Nov 29 14:25 index.html
 
 Now look at the difference between index and download  Also I am not
 able to pull download.html up via my browser I get a permission denied
 message.  In order to fix this I would need to chmod o+r.

This has to do with possibly your ftpd, not sure why it uses that umask,
but see if it is defined in the ftpd config somewhere, it's also possible
that you ftp client is doing this intentionally from some setting, have
you tried another ftp client perhaps a unix one?

good luck

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Re: Permission(s) /etc/skel

1998-11-30 Thread William Flores
At 09:51 PM 11/29/1998 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 08:33:03PM -0600, William Flores wrote:
 I have a couple of ??'s here...and I'm still new to linux...but have felt
 1st question:  I have /etc/skel w/ public_html in it...  I have /etc/skel
snip ls output

Is the /home directory sgid as well? I believe this is why the other
directories become +s. Either way I personally prefer to setup
adduser.conf to not create groups for each user but instead use group
users or staff, then you can chmod -s /home.

Yes it wasfixed.  Also got rid of the groups and redid the user id's
from scratch. 

snip
 Now if I were to u/l a file via WS_FTP say download.html here is what
happens:
 

This has to do with possibly your ftpd, not sure why it uses that umask,
but see if it is defined in the ftpd config somewhere, it's also possible
that you ftp client is doing this intentionally from some setting, have
you tried another ftp client perhaps a unix one?


Well..I did switch to Netscape and u/l thereboth times.. same thing
happened - permission denied...  But couldn't discover how or where it was
doing it...   :)  Any other ideas..like how to change the permissions the
the users group uses??

Let's try again.


X11 hangs after moving mouse

1998-11-30 Thread Ben Jorgensen
After starting X11 the computer hangs (stone-dead) after a few seconds.
Sometimes it just hangs right away.. I think it may have something to do
with the mouse but I'm not sure.

Today I changed some hardware in my computer (motherboard,ram,mouse). I
used to have a ps/2 mouse but now I have a serial mouse instead. It's a
logitech 3-button mouse.

Thanks for any help!!

//ben
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[no subject]

1998-11-30 Thread Sibuyas Bombay
   Hi !
   Anyone have any idea how do I configure my debian box as a router for my
LAN?
   Anyway, I'm planning to do this and please let me know if my thinking is
wrong.
   I want to ask my ISP for 32 static IP's (203.176.38.32 - 203.176.38.64).
 And I'll assign xxx.33 as my Linux's IP and let them (ISP) configure their
router so that they'll route all traffic for my subnet to my debian box.
   xxx.32 will be my network addy, xxx.64 will be my broadcast and 
255.255.255.224
will be my NetMask. (did I get that right ?)
   
   I am using ppp to connect to my ISP, so that means xxx.33 will be my ppp0
interface's IP rite ?  What about my eth0 interface ?  Will I also need to give
it one IP of its own since its the only interface my LAN (of windoze puters)
can directly see ?
   How about the routing, what other routes do I have to add ?
   Hope someone can help me.
thanks,
Sib

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Re: Permission(s) /etc/skel

1998-11-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:48:25PM -0600, William Flores wrote:
 
 Well..I did switch to Netscape and u/l thereboth times.. same thing
 happened - permission denied...  But couldn't discover how or where it was
 doing it...   :)  Any other ideas..like how to change the permissions the
 the users group uses??

Then your ftpd is setting the umask at 026 by default, you need to find
this in your ftpd's configuration and change it to 022. Sorry I can't be
more specific, but I have no idea which ftpd you are using.

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Re: Permission(s) /etc/skel

1998-11-30 Thread William Flores
That makes two of us...I just found out that it's using proftpd and it's
already using 022 and will try to set it to 26..  ..and try again..  :)  

At 11:11 PM 11/29/1998 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 09:48:25PM -0600, William Flores wrote:
 
 Well..I did switch to Netscape and u/l thereboth times.. same thing
 happened - permission denied...  But couldn't discover how or where it was
 doing it...   :)  Any other ideas..like how to change the permissions the
 the users group uses??

Then your ftpd is setting the umask at 026 by default, you need to find
this in your ftpd's configuration and change it to 022. Sorry I can't be
more specific, but I have no idea which ftpd you are using.

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Re: xfstt obsoleted?

1998-11-30 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On 30 Nov 1998, Gossamer wrote:

 
 xfstt has suddenly started showing up in my dselect list as
 Obselete!  What replaces it?  I like truetype fonts in X.

What Obsolete/local means is that the package does not show up in the
list of available packages for download from the ftp server, or from the
CD ROM.  It by no means indicates that a package is obsolete or shouldn't
be used anymore.  For example, I installed apt on my Debiann 2.0 system.
Apt is part of 2.1, and was not included in 2.0 at all.  When I look at
apt in dselect, it shows up as being obsolete.  That's not because it is,
but because it is not in the Packages file (list of available packages)
that gets shown when I update the 2.0 package list.  Dselect has no idea
where that package came from, so it assumes that it's either obsolete and
no longer included in the distribution, or it's a local package of some
non-Debian software.

I hope this clears things up for you.

noah

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subnetting/debian router Q's

1998-11-30 Thread Sibuyas Bombay
   Hi !
   Anyone have any idea how do I configure my debian box as a router for my
LAN?
   Anyway, I'm planning to do this and please let me know if my thinking is
wrong.
   I want to ask my ISP for 32 static IP's (203.176.38.32 - 203.176.38.64).

 And I'll assign xxx.33 as my Linux's IP and let them (ISP) configure their
router so that they'll route all traffic for my subnet to my debian box.
   xxx.32 will be my network addy, xxx.64 will be my broadcast and 
255.255.255.224
will be my NetMask. (did I get that right ?)
   
   I am using ppp to connect to my ISP, so that means xxx.33 will be my ppp0
interface's IP rite ?  What about my eth0 interface ?  Will I also need to give
it one IP of its own since its the only interface my LAN (of windoze puters)can
directly see ?
   How about the routing, what other routes do I have to add ?  Im also confised
whther I also have to add additional #ifconfig commands.
   Hope someone can help me.
thanks,
Sib

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Re: X11 hangs after moving mouse

1998-11-30 Thread Mark Panzer
Ben Jorgensen wrote:
 
 After starting X11 the computer hangs (stone-dead) after a few seconds.
 Sometimes it just hangs right away.. I think it may have something to do
 with the mouse but I'm not sure.
 
 Today I changed some hardware in my computer (motherboard,ram,mouse). I
 used to have a ps/2 mouse but now I have a serial mouse instead. It's a
 logitech 3-button mouse.
 
 Thanks for any help!!
 
That means you have to run the X setup program (eg XF86Setup) and select
the serial mouse instead of the ps/2, X won't know what to do without
knowing where the new mouse is.
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Upgraded to unstable, now unstable

1998-11-30 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
Folks,

Have used Debian for critical office uses for over two years now.  And
last saturday, being in Office, decided to upgrade from hamm to slink.
(Please do not shoot yet).

Near the end, I started getting:

update-menus: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

Hmmm.  No problem, will right it self, I thought.  The same sort of
library problems had occured when upgrading my Debian/Sparc installtion.

But no way.  Many tools have stopped working (groff, etc); and to top it
all, apt-get and dselect too.  So no hope of the next day's updates on
slink righting matters.

Output of nm below:


earth# nm -D /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 | grep frame
 U __deregister_frame_info
 U __frame_state_for
 U __register_frame_info


Help?  

PS: If you answer this on the newsgroup, please mail me a copy.  My Linux
box was handleing the newsfeed, as well.



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xdm at startup?

1998-11-30 Thread Matt Garman

I installed xdm on my system.  Everything is fine, but at install-time
I chose to *NOT* have it start at boot-time.  Now I wish to have it
invoked automatically at startup.  What do I need to do?

Also, is there a way to change the default xdm background (i.e. the
login screen)?  The greyish default is kinda nasty.

Thanks!
Matt

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libstdc++2.? breaking

1998-11-30 Thread surak
I foolishly did an `apt-get -m upgrade` to upgrade my slink distribution
even though I was getting errors about libstdcsomething.deb being
unlocatable. Now I have a big problem with a lot of my programs, including
telnet, man (groff to be exact), apt-get, dselect, etc.

When I try executing the above programs, I get this error message:

program_name: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

I think it's a problem with my libstdc++2.9 packages; at least it seems
like that's the case. Does anyone know where I can download either an older
working version or a fixed version of the package? Right now I have
2.91.58-5.

On the other hand, looking at the time libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so was
created (Nov 17 05:21, I started having problems around 2100), maybe I'm
wrong. :(

Thanks in advance,

Alan


Re: xdm at startup?

1998-11-30 Thread Robert Rati
Edit your /etc/X11/config file and change the no-start-xdm to start-xdm.

On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Matt Garman wrote:

 
 I installed xdm on my system.  Everything is fine, but at install-time
 I chose to *NOT* have it start at boot-time.  Now I wish to have it
 invoked automatically at startup.  What do I need to do?
 
 Also, is there a way to change the default xdm background (i.e. the
 login screen)?  The greyish default is kinda nasty.
 
 Thanks!
 Matt
 
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Re: Virtual Console Messed Up When Switching From X

1998-11-30 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ruchira Datta) writes:

 Sometimes when I switch from X to a virtual
 console with Ctrl-Alt-Fn, the virtual console starts substituting some
 characters for others.

Try the command `setfont'.

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Re: Big problem, help !

1998-11-30 Thread Andreas Kremer
Hi,

   I have just upgraded my debian, unstable version. Here is the message
 I get when I do virtually anything:
 groumph:/usr/lib# dselect
 dselect: error in loading shared libraries
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info
 groumph:/usr/lib# telnet
 telnet: error in loading shared libraries
 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol:
 __register_frame_info

I got the same on my system with wine, wmcdplay and wmmount? Is there
anybody who can fix this problem?


re:re:How to Config XF98_MGA

1998-11-30 Thread cj
At 98-11-30 13:21:00, you wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Cesare Tagliaferri wrote:

 On dom, 29 nov 1998, cj wrote:
 Hi!
   
My computer's card is Matrox AGP G100,Now I downloaded a 
server XF98_MGA.It's only one 
file 
 after uncompress and i put it to /usr/bin/X11,change the 
config in /etc/XF86Config and 
Xserver.
 But it doesn't work.After startx,it report can't find the 
server.
 
 Did you update the symbolic links /usr/bin/X11/X and 
/etc/X11/X ? They must
 point to your server.
 

NO! X is a wrapper script in Debian, which calls the Server 
itself. As
mentioned, check that the absolute path to your Server is on the 
first
line of /etc/X11/Xserver.  All that the wrapper script does, is 
setup some
security bits and pieces.

   Michael Beattie ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


I have set the first line of /etc/X11/Xserver to my 
/usr/bin/X11/XF98_MGA before i mail 
the letter.After startx,it report the server type is SVGA,and 
support Matrox G100.But below 
the message of font,it report fatal error of not find the 
configured device or what i assigned 
in the Screen section of XF86Config is not what it's recognized 
server.Now I can only use 
640x480,16 colors in VGA16.I don't like it.
Is there the way the make it run?
cj



Re: Kernel compile problem

1998-11-30 Thread Kalle Valo
Roger Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I got a sound card (my wife insisted on having a sound card), and am now
 trying to recompile the kernel to include support for it.
 
 I've got the configuration set up, and everything appears to be correct.
 
 I run make-kpkg, and it runs until I get this:
 
   gcc:  Internal compiler error: Program cc1 got fatal signal 11.
 
 This apparently occurs at random points during the run of the compile;
 this particular one occurred while compiling init.o.  Previous errors
 have occurred at floppy.o, keyboard.o, pty.o.  I get the same error
 trying to compile the kernel manually (make clean, make config, make
 dep, make zImage).

I think you should read the sig11 FAQ at
http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/. It could help you a bit. btw, I'm
having same kind of problems, but sometimes my machine lockups
completely. I haven't investigated what's the cause. I can still
compile kernels, I just use 'make-kpkg kernel_image' again. It
continues there it left before the lockup and the compiled kernel
works fine.

Sorry about my english,
Kalle Valo


Re: Upgraded to unstable, now unstable

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon

 But no way.  Many tools have stopped working (groff, etc); and to top it
 all, apt-get and dselect too.  So no hope of the next day's updates on
 slink righting matters.

You could try using dpkg to upgrade the various libraries. Slink shouldn't
be broken though

Matthew

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About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread WuArMy490
Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom
Because when I install debian I do
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get
/dev/cdrom file or Dir not found
I thought you can only mount a cdrom drive with /dev/cdrom


Re: Upgraded to unstable, now unstable

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon

 Have used Debian for critical office uses for over two years now.  And
 last saturday, being in Office, decided to upgrade from hamm to slink.
 (Please do not shoot yet).
 
 Near the end, I started getting:
 
 update-menus: error in loading shared libraries
 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

Do you mean slink or unstable? If you mean unstable, then this is rapidly
becoming an FAQ, and a fix was posted a few days ago. I'll find it and
forward it on to the list, as people seem not to have read it...

Matthew

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RE: More dselect wishes

1998-11-30 Thread Leandro Dutra
 Bottom line: suggestions can do no harm, and they may help.

I agree.  It's just that people keep asking for things every time,
and do not even give a try at implementation... some people know they could
contribute, but others think this is just like Microsoft, where you ask
and perhaps someone will fulfill your wish.  So it will be no harm
remembering people they can always do something themselves.

Also, perhaps it would be better to forward such suggestions to
debian-devel or another list like that...


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda


FIX: __register_frame_info/dpkg/apt problem (fwd)

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon
FYI, here it is again.

Apologies to Mitch if he didn't want it re-posted.

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:24:33 -0500
From: Mitch Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: FIX: __register_frame_info/dpkg/apt problem
Resent-Date: 27 Nov 1998 15:20:48 -
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Resent-cc: recipient list not shown: ;

For all of you who have been bitten by this problem, here
is your quickie solution.

Go to http://blevins.simplenet.com/foobar/
Download the .debs there, and upgrade/downgrade to these versions
using dpkg (which should still work).

I would put these packages on hold for a few days til the problem
gets fixed on your mirrors.  After you are feeling adventurous,
take them off hold.  If this breaks things again, go back to foobar and:
download
rinse
repeat.

Individual packages (not dselect/apt/dpkg) may or may not still work,
but at least you've still got dselect. :(

Read the discussion on debian-devel for more info on the problem and
for status updates.

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Re: About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 12:05:24AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom
 Because when I install debian I do
 mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get
 /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found
 I thought you can only mount a cdrom drive with /dev/cdrom

Your CD-ROM drive is probably hdc (for IDE) or scd0 (for SCSI) or
something. It's not /dev/cdrom unless you make a symbolink link
from the real device (eg /dev/hdc or /dev/scd0) to /dev/cdrom.
Debian doesn't care what your CD-ROM device is called, as long as it
exists in /dev and is the correct device file.

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Re: About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon

 Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom
 Because when I install debian I do
 mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get
 /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found
 I thought you can only mount a cdrom drive with /dev/cdrom

Nope. You can mount a cdrom on anywhere (even /bin if you really want),
but /dev/cdrom isn't created by default.

mkdir /dev/cdrom

should do the trick.

HTH,

Matthew

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Re: linuxconf

1998-11-30 Thread Joerg Friedrich
On 29 Nov 1998, Joachim Trinkwitz wrote:

 Pere Camps [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Has anyone succesfully installed linuxconf on debian? If yes, is
  it worth it?
  
 I would be more interested in webmin http://www.webmin.com/webmin
 which looks very interesting. There is only a Debian 1.3 version
 available; *not* a deb package -- seems no one was interested to
 package it ...
 
 Has someone tried out webmin on a Debian 2 system? (I am for much a
 newbie in system administration to try it out more than installing it
 and looking at it's great looking web interface.)

The only problem it that webmin is non-free. 

But it also works well.
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Re: About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread Damon Buckwalter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom
 Because when I install debian I do
 mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get
 /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found
 I thought you can only mount a cdrom drive with /dev/cdrom
 

/dev/cdrom is a tradition followed by most Linux systems.  It is not
your CDROM device, but instead, a symbolic link to the CDROM device.

First, you'll need to know which device is your CDROM.  This can be sen
at boot up.  If it's an IDE CDROM, it's most likely hdb or hdc.  Try
'cat /proc/ide/hdc/model' to verify this.  If it's SCSI, It's probably
scd0.

You can then create /dev/cdrom by executing the following commands as
root:

cd /dev
ln -s cdrom hdc
ls -l cdrom

This will create a symbolic link from /dev/cdrom - /dev/hdc.  Read 'man
ln' for more info.  Then,

mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom

should work.

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Re: Xemacs/auctex

1998-11-30 Thread Cesare Tagliaferri
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:

I have just installed Debian Linux 2 and xemacs20 and emacs19
with all the necessary files ( I think ). The emacs works fine
with auctex, but the xemacs seems to go into latex
mode but the menu items don't appear. 

Have you added the line:

(require 'tex-site)

to your ~/.emacs file? This should force xemacs to load auctex.

Hope this helps!

Cesare Tagliaferri


Re: X11 hangs after moving mouse

1998-11-30 Thread Peter Berlau
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 04:52:56AM +0100, Ben Jorgensen wrote:
hi ben,
 After starting X11 the computer hangs (stone-dead) after a few seconds.
 Sometimes it just hangs right away.. I think it may have something to do
 with the mouse but I'm not sure.
 
 Today I changed some hardware in my computer (motherboard,ram,mouse). I
 used to have a ps/2 mouse but now I have a serial mouse instead. It's a
 logitech 3-button mouse.
sometimes there is a problem in using gpm and X at same;
especially if using a serial mouse, and kernel  2.0.35
please try using 'gpm -k' before start the X-Server; mostly it help's

please note: this problem don't occurs if You use a PS/2-mouse, ;-)
-- 
Cheers 
Peter


Re: More dselect wishes

1998-11-30 Thread Gossamer
Leandro Dutra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote...
  Bottom line: suggestions can do no harm, and they may help.
   I agree.  It's just that people keep asking for things every time,
 and do not even give a try at implementation... some people know they could
 contribute, but others think this is just like Microsoft, where you ask
 and perhaps someone will fulfill your wish.  So it will be no harm
 remembering people they can always do something themselves.

Perhaps youc ould have phrased it a bit better the first time :)  It
-did- feel a bit like an attack.

I don't know about the others, but my suggestions were meant to be
taken more in the sense of If you're working on this area and wondering
what people are wanting   I know as a developer (and I've worked
on bunches of open-source projects it's often hard to know what the
lusers want because once I've been developing I know the program so
well it's oozing out my ears!

   Also, perhaps it would be better to forward such suggestions to
 debian-devel or another list like that...

It might well be, and if somebody who's a deb developer had suggested
it then I would have, but nobody did.  Is there a suggestion box
anywhere?  Should there be?


bekj

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Re: FIX: __register_frame_info/dpkg/apt problem (fwd)

1998-11-30 Thread Mitch Blevins
M.C. Vernon wrote:
 FYI, here it is again.
 
 Apologies to Mitch if he didn't want it re-posted.
 http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/

Thanks, I've been wrestling with my mail transport and would
appreciate it if anybody helps with the reposts.

-Mitch


Re: Netscape - Newbie Linux User

1998-11-30 Thread Richard Lyon

 Alright here is my problem.  I have Debian 2.0 installed.  I downloaded
 [navigator-v45-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0.tar] from ftp6.netscape.com.  I
 installed it and everything.  Now when ever I go to the installed dir
 [/usr/local/netscape] and i type ./netscape it gets an error message
 [unable to load library libXpm.so.4].  I then did a search with dselect to
 find the package [xpm4.7] which contains the [libXpm.so.4] lib.  Then i did
 dpkg -i xpm4.7 and it wouldn't install it.  I don't wanna go through with
 dselect because that takes forever!  And apt doesn't work with my cd-rom :(
   Any suggestions?

What are you using on your machine libc5 or libc6? It is generally not a good 
idea to mix these. The version of navigator you downloaded was for libc5. If 
you want to stick with libc6 you should download 
navigator-v45-export.x86-unknown-linux2.0glibc.tar.gz

The libc6 version of the xpm libraries installs correctly from the hamm cdrom 
using dselect. What sort of errors messages did you get? These may give a clue 
as to what went wrong.

Out of interest, how long does dselect take to complete a simple install on 
your machine?

Regards ...


Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems

1998-11-30 Thread Richard Lyon
 We'll find out shortly.  I'm FTPing the sources from sunsite.  Never did
 like the Debian way of doing the Kernel.
 

GULP This seems a bit drastic, make zlilo works for me with 2.0.34. It 
almost seems like you have not installed all the right development bits. Have 
you got a copy of these missing header files anywhere on your machine?


Which package for pkzipped files?

1998-11-30 Thread Richard Lyon
Hello,

I have an archive file created on a windows machine with pkzip. Which debian 
package is most suitable for extracting files from this archive? There is no 
password protection on the file.

Regards ...


Re: Installing Debian 2.0 (Intel) for first time

1998-11-30 Thread Richard Lyon
See comments below:

 I am new to Linux  Debian, Also I am not a programmer. I have
 tried to install Debian 2.0 (Intel)from CD. I have Win98 on my 4.3GB
 hard drive so I cleared 2.4G and managed to create a 200Mg root
 partition dev/hda3, a 96MG ((is this much necessary? )swap partition
 dev/hda7 an a 2.1+GB linux partition dev/hda8 and have reached the
 Configure Device Drivers step; but I am unsure what settings to use.

The approach I took was to start simple. Don't try and get everything running 
in one hit. Just select the serial and parallel ports. It is better to work 
through hardware issues one-by-one. You don't want to be restarting the 
install again and again.

Did you start the install from CD-ROM?


 Can you please let me know what I must do to get them to run in
 Linux?. Also at one attempted to install I left Configure Device
 Drivers blank, then when I reached the list of access methods in
 Dselect, when I chose cdrom it requested the Block I do not know
 what this is. I read the Dselect documentation for beginners but it
 has no mention of this. It does talk about mounting your CD could you
 explain what mounting is and how I can mount the CD drives mentioned
 above.

The exact block device depends upon your computer setup. There is no harm in 
trying a few different devices. What sort of disk controllers do you have 
installed? Is your CD-ROM SCSI or ATAPI. If it ATAPI, then there is a good 
chance that /dev/hdb is the block device to use.

If I recall correctly you are presented with a menu showing a choice of which 
device to select for the CD-ROM. I found the correct device by trial and error 
as I misunderstand how my pc was setup.

Finally can you recommend the best learning materials for learning
 how to use and get the most out of Linux ( remembering I am a beginner )

The install notes are very important. It pays to read through them very 
carefully before starting any install.


Re: Is this really the right thing to do?

1998-11-30 Thread Richard Lyon
  The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package
 grouping'
  feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the
  relationship between packages.
 
   Do anyone knows what the dpkg developers think about the issue?

Is this a documentation issue? Maybe there is a requirement for a document 
explaining the general layout of the packages. The grouping of packages seems 
to be ok.


RE: Is this really the right thing to do?

1998-11-30 Thread Leandro Dutra
 The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package
  grouping'
   feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the
   relationship between packages.
 
 Is this a documentation issue? Maybe there is a requirement for a document
explaining the general
 layout of the packages. The grouping of packages seems to be ok.

No, I think the original poster thought of a kind of hierarchical
grouping where each program/function would be the root of a little tree
detailing all its packages... something like

X-+-xbase
  |
  +-xservers
  |
  +-xfonts

Anyway, this is a thread that could (should) be in the debian-devel
group...

There is the apt package in development, all such new features
probably should be implemented in apt.


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Re: Which package for pkzipped files?

1998-11-30 Thread Damon Buckwalter
Richard Lyon wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have an archive file created on a windows machine with pkzip. Which debian
 package is most suitable for extracting files from this archive? There is no
 password protection on the file.
 
 Regards ...
 

Go into dselect and type '/' and then 'zip'.  This should find you the
packages 'zip' and 'unzip', which can deal with PkZIP files.

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Re: Hello World doesn't work

1998-11-30 Thread Brian May
Hmmm. I was told that 'int func(void)' means it takes no parameters,
while 'int func()' means it could take any.

As silly as it seems, I think this is part of the ANSI C standard (to
allow for older programming styles). Otherwise, there would never have
been any need for 'int func(void)'.

I think C++ changes this and makes 'int func()' mean the same thing
as 'int func(void)'. If you want to pass multiple parameters (eg
printf), you can use 'int func(...)' instead.

I personally try and avoid the use 'int func()' unless I am compiling
a C++ program, where it means no parameters (ie its use is obvious).

Brian May


/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

1998-11-30 Thread Oliver Thuns
/usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol:
__register_frame_info

Why is this not fixed now?!? :-(

There are fixed libs, but they are not on the debian ftp server. Should
not to hard to upload the fixed libs to the ftp server.





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Re: About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
M.C. Vernon wrote:
  Nope. You can mount a cdrom on anywhere (even /bin if you really want),
  but /dev/cdrom isn't created by default.
  
  mkdir /dev/cdrom
  
  should do the trick.

Absolutely NOT!

/dev/cdrom should be a symbolic link to a real device, not a directory!

ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
   ^^^
substituting for hdc as appropriate to your system.


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Xserver extension missing

1998-11-30 Thread Gregory Vandenbrouck
Hi,

  I get this message when working on my project:

Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display 139.124.51.69:0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display 139.124.51.69:0.0.

Is there a way to add this extension to my x server ? 
I use:
ii  xbase   3.3.2.3a-8.1   X Window System (XFree86)
infrastructure

TIA 

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Re: linuxconf

1998-11-30 Thread Pere Camps
Joachim,

 Has someone tried out webmin on a Debian 2 system? (I am for much a
 newbie in system administration to try it out more than installing it
 and looking at it's great looking web interface.)

Just tried it yesterday I prefer the interface to linuxconf. Can't
do as many things as linuxconf, but I think it's more straightforward.
Nice web interface.

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Re: About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, M.C. Vernon wrote:

 
  Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom
  Because when I install debian I do
  mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get
  /dev/cdrom file or Dir not found
  I thought you can only mount a cdrom drive with /dev/cdrom
 
 Nope. You can mount a cdrom on anywhere (even /bin if you really want),
 but /dev/cdrom isn't created by default.
 
 mkdir /dev/cdrom
 
 should do the trick.

You are getting /dev/cdrom mixed with /cdrom. /dev/cdrom should be a link
to /dev/hd[bcd], whereas /cdrom is the mount point by tradition.

You are right though, A cdrom can be mounted anywhere.


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Re: X11 hangs after moving mouse

1998-11-30 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Peter Berlau wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 04:52:56AM +0100, Ben Jorgensen wrote:
 hi ben,
  After starting X11 the computer hangs (stone-dead) after a few seconds.
  Sometimes it just hangs right away.. I think it may have something to do
  with the mouse but I'm not sure.
  
  Today I changed some hardware in my computer (motherboard,ram,mouse). I
  used to have a ps/2 mouse but now I have a serial mouse instead. It's a
  logitech 3-button mouse.
 sometimes there is a problem in using gpm and X at same;
 especially if using a serial mouse, and kernel  2.0.35
 please try using 'gpm -k' before start the X-Server; mostly it help's
 
 please note: this problem don't occurs if You use a PS/2-mouse, ;-)

Strange, I have no problems with a serial mouse..

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RE: PPP options for different providers - how ?

1998-11-30 Thread Chang, FKK
Thanks to all who suggested that I toss away my /etc/ppp/options 
file and reinstall using pppconfig.

It now works.

Felix


Re: xdm at startup?

1998-11-30 Thread Martin Waller

And to change the default xdm background, install Xbanner.

Martin


Subject: Re: xdm at startup?

Edit your /etc/X11/config file and change the no-start-xdm to 
start-xdm.

On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Matt Garman wrote:

 
 I installed xdm on my system.  Everything is fine, but at 
install-time
 I chose to *NOT* have it start at boot-time.  Now I wish to have it
 invoked automatically at startup.  What do I need to do?
 
 Also, is there a way to change the default xdm background (i.e. the
 login screen)?  The greyish default is kinda nasty.
 
 Thanks!
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RE: Modules and the kernel

1998-11-30 Thread Leandro Dutra
  AFAIK the only modules which need such stuff are the sound modules
 
 In fact, the do not really *need* it. They (OSS makers) inserted the check
 just to avoid problems like your module kills my kernel - because they
 sell it, so they have responcibility even when user messes it up. But

Why the even the free sound drivers need to be compiled with
the kernel in the 2.0 version?


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda


FW: Modules and the kernel -- SORRY

1998-11-30 Thread Leandro Dutra
Wrong mailing list, sorry!

  AFAIK the only modules which need such stuff are the sound modules
 
 In fact, the do not really *need* it. They (OSS makers) inserted the check
 just to avoid problems like your module kills my kernel - because they
 sell it, so they have responcibility even when user messes it up. But

Why the even the free sound drivers need to be compiled with
the kernel in the 2.0 version?

Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda


RE: Modules and the kernel

1998-11-30 Thread Leandro Dutra
  AFAIK the only modules which need such stuff are the sound modules
 
 In fact, the do not really *need* it. They (OSS makers) inserted the check
 just to avoid problems like your module kills my kernel - because they
 sell it, so they have responcibility even when user messes it up. But

Why then even the free sound drivers need to be compiled with
the kernel in the 2.0 version?


Leandro Guimaraens Faria Corcete Dutra
Amdocs Brasil Ltda


Re: Kernel compile problem

1998-11-30 Thread Kenneth Scharf


On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:06:29PM +, Roger Franz wrote:
 
   gcc:  Internal compiler error: Program cc1 got fatal signal 11.

Ohh, nasty. AFAIR this means you have some bad mem or cpu (more likely
memory). I could be wrong.
 ---

I once got some messages like the above.  I re-loaded the kernel
sources, re-configured and tried again -- and the problem went away. 
Maybe a 'make clean' would have helped, then again maybe my kernel
sources really did get corrupted somehow.  I think this did happen the
first time I tried to compile sound.  I did happen on after the 3rd or
4th compile of the kernel however.  This was under debian 1.3.1 and I
seem to remember that the sound configuration option was sortof broken
under 1.3.1 (not all of the options could be selected.  did not have
the problem under slackware, or debian 2.0).






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About cdrom

1998-11-30 Thread Kenneth Scharf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote


Is debian supposed to have a /dev/cdrom
Because when I install debian I do
mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom and I get
/dev/cdrom file or Dir not found
I thought you can only mount a cdrom drive with /dev/cdrom
--
/dev/cdrom is a possible sudoname for your cdrom.  Unless you have a
simlink between the real device and /dev/cdrom it won't work.  For
example, if your cdrom is on /dev/hdc (master on IDE cable #2) then
make the link: ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom.  Or just mount it as
mount /dev/hdc -t iso9660 /cdrom.  All dev 'short cuts' must be set up
by the user. (such as /dev/mouse, /dev/modem, etc)



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RE: Is this really the right thing to do?

1998-11-30 Thread Mário Olímpio de Menezes
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Leandro Dutra wrote:

The developers of dpkg could do something like add a 'package
   grouping'
feature that lets newcomers (especially newbies to X11) understand the
relationship between packages.
  
  Is this a documentation issue? Maybe there is a requirement for a document
 explaining the general
  layout of the packages. The grouping of packages seems to be ok.
 
   No, I think the original poster thought of a kind of hierarchical
 grouping where each program/function would be the root of a little tree
 detailing all its packages... something like
 
 X-+-xbase
   |
   +-xservers
   |
   +-xfonts
 
   Anyway, this is a thread that could (should) be in the debian-devel
 group...

Hi,

I think the user list is a proper forum for such thread, that
could be in debian-devel too. 
Things could go simpler and with such splits of packages, they are
going harder to manage. dselect isn't easy to understand but after  
several readings and tries in the docs, so becoming things easier is ''a
must' for the growth of debian. With 2700 packages, this is near to
impossible. Grouping seems to me that is the way to go. Sorry for the poor
english :-(

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Re: Kernel compile problem

1998-11-30 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 05:05:24 -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 07:06:29PM +, Roger Franz wrote:
gcc:  Internal compiler error: Program cc1 got fatal signal 11.
 
 Ohh, nasty. AFAIR this means you have some bad mem or cpu (more likely
 memory).

Not necessarily, but quite possibly.

Check out the FAQ at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/

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auto dependency

1998-11-30 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
Hi all,

Just wandering about the frozen distribution, I looked at
plotutils_2.1.6-1.deb.  With dpkg --info, I get

 new debian package, version 2.0.
 size 797944 bytes: control archive= 686 bytes.
 517 bytes,13 lines  control  
 250 bytes,14 lines   *  postinst #!/bin/sh
  58 bytes, 4 lines   *  prerm#!/bin/sh
  33 bytes, 1 lines  shlibs   
 Package: plotutils
 Version: 2.1.6-1
 Architecture: i386
 Depends: libc6, libc6 (= 2.0.7u), plotutils (= 2.1.4-1), xlib6g (= 3.3-5)
^^

The package depends on an earlier version of itself.  Is this aceptable
`package idiom', or a bug?

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Can someone give me some pointers

1998-11-30 Thread Mario Filipe
Hi

Today i made an update on my system, the onluy problem is that I forgot that
unstable now means unstable... :(

After the upgrade I didn't notice anything bad but now i was going to run
dselect and :

dselect: error in loading shared libraries
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

And the same for apt-get (at least dpkg works :))

I've looked arround to see if I could understand what is causing this so that i
could replace  the packages with some from slink or hamm but wasn't able so i
include a strace of apt-get (output) and a list of the packages that I have
installed.

Thanks, and if you need any information that might help you to help me just
blaze away, and yes you can flame me too :(

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Re: /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

1998-11-30 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Oliver Thuns wrote:

 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2: undefined symbol:
 __register_frame_info
 
 Why is this not fixed now?!? :-(
 
 There are fixed libs, but they are not on the debian ftp server. Should
 not to hard to upload the fixed libs to the ftp server.

Nope, it's not hard at all.  It just takes a bit of time to get out of
incoming: ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/debian/incoming/

With that said, the upgrade will break packages built with the bad version
of these libs (at least that's my understanding of the thread so far).

Brandon

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XF86Config help needed

1998-11-30 Thread Scott Thomas
I am trying to do a new install on a Hitachi M-Series laptop. I have
the base installation loaded, but can't get the X server to run.

Hitatchi says the V Freq for all resolutions is 60 Hz, and provides no
additional information. The card is a Cirrus CL-GD7543, which is
detected as having dotclocks of 40 at a depth of 8. There is 1 Mb
VRAM.

When I go through XF86Setup after clicking Done and Okay, the text
screen (not the GUI text screen) blinks on and off, and Ctrl-Alt-Bsp
does nothing. When I use xf86config I get Attempting to start
server... _X11 TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect errno=111, and
then it goes to a black screen with two orange horizontal lines,
roughly at 1/3s of the screen. C-A-Bsp will terminate the X server.

Starting X  file 21 gives a listing of ModeLines, all saying the
hsync is not large enough and the screen deleted, then says no screens
found. If I increase hsync (it sets it at 31.5-55 by default), the
screen for which I changed it isn't deleted, but it still won't start,
and still says no screens found.

I have been through the XF86HOWTO and the XFree86-Video-Timings-HOWTO,
but I feel that I'm missing some data from Hitachi (like Hsynch).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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RE: ascd

1998-11-30 Thread Robert Rati
Well, I have asmixer running and the volume is at full blast, but I still
don't hear anything from the speakers.  Have any other ideas?

Rob

On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Leandro Dutra wrote:

  I use Afterstep as my window manager and I have asmixer installed,
  but I can't find it anywhere on my system.
 
   Run
 update-menu
 
   If you still can't find asmixer, try typing
 asmixer
   in any xterm (or similar windowed shell).
 
   If asmixer isn't in your path, try
 locate asmixer
   That requires that you've installed dbupdate, which I think is part
 of the GNU fileutils.
 
   If you do not have locate, try:
 find / -name asmixer
 
 
 
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Re: More dselect wishes

1998-11-30 Thread john
bekj writes:
 Is there a suggestion box anywhere?

Yes.  The bug tracking system.  File a 'wishlist' bug.

You could also post your suggestion to debian-devel or email it to the
maintainer.
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pb SCSI card Tekram with rescue disk

1998-11-30 Thread Francois chevrollier
I can't boot with the rescue disk because it can't initialise my scsi
card (it's a tekram DC-390), so I can't install DEBIAN 2.
I downloaded the files 'linux' 'root.bin' 'resc1440.bin'
'drv1440.bin'nbsp;
from debian.org in order to boot from floppies or hard disk, but it
didn't
work

thanks for helping me :-)
(sorry for my bad english, I'm french)


libjpeg62

1998-11-30 Thread Rodrigo Moya
Hi all!

Installing one of the GNOME packages from slink (I don't remember which one
right one, maybe gnome-gxsnmp) I got a dependency problem, saying that
libjpeg62 was needed. Now, I have been looking around the slink distribution
but have found libjpeg6...2 libjpeg6..1, installed them but the problem
persists, so I am getting the wrong library. But I cannot find a libjpeg62
nowhere, where is it?

Cheers


includes?

1998-11-30 Thread Christopher J. Morrone

I am pretty sure that I have seen this discussed in the past, but I can't
seem to find it in the mailing list archives.

What is the deal with the include directories?  My specific problem is
that I am trying to install the 2.0.36 kernel, with a Pentium performance
counter patch from the Beowulf project.  Now I made the patch, and used
make-kpkg to build the kernel-headers and installed that.

The perf patches have an additional header file, which did appear in the
/usr/src/linux sym linked directory which was installed from the header
package that I just created.

But when I try to build the perf patch library, it can't find that header
file!  And then I realized that /usr/include has no links to
/usr/src/linux.  So what is the point in installing header packages?

What am I missing?  How are these header files supposed to be accessed by
users at compile time?

(Please CC to me directly, I'm not on the list any more; mail server
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unmapping alt-Q on netscape 3

1998-11-30 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

About twice a week, I hitt alt-Q rather than alt-W in netscape, 
bringing down the whole netscape.  This is version 3 (4 is missing a 
couple of things that I use).  Is there any way to disable that key 
sequence?

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Re: Can someone give me some pointers

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Mario Filipe wrote:

 Hi
 
 Today i made an update on my system, the onluy problem is that I forgot that
 unstable now means unstable... :(
 
 After the upgrade I didn't notice anything bad but now i was going to run
 dselect and :
 
 dselect: error in loading shared libraries
 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8: undefined symbol: __register_frame_info

Please check the archives for this list. A solution was posted a few days
ago, and I reposted it this morning.

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Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems

1998-11-30 Thread Steve Lamb
On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 01:39:25PM +1100, Richard Lyon wrote:
  We'll find out shortly.  I'm FTPing the sources from sunsite.  Never
  did like the Debian way of doing the Kernel.
  

 GULP This seems a bit drastic, make zlilo works for me with 2.0.34.
 It almost seems like you have not installed all the right development
 bits. Have you got a copy of these missing header files anywhere on your
 machine?

Drastic?  Why?  Seems sensable to me.  Anyway, found out what the
problem was.  I updated libc to get apt working on my laptop which runs a
mainly hamm system.  Of course, when I did that I didn't update the header
files, just removed them, because apt will not install anything if there is
an error in the database, even if it is unrelated.  Most annoying.  So once
I knocked myself on the noggin' for that one I get the headers and a new
libc.  Of course, now apt is broken.  :/

OTOH, I finally got my kernel recompiled and my trackpoint is working. 
Now to just get pcmcia working.  :/

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X won't start - error 111

1998-11-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
I just downgraded my X packages to  3.3.2.2-1 to see if that would get
rid of a bug in some commercial software.  X now refuses to start on my
console:

  _FontTransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
  failed to set default font path 'tcp/localhost:7100,tcp/localhost:7101'

(I can give the whole output of startx if anyone thinks it will help.)

I can't find out what is causing this error.

Error 111 is defined as 'connection refused', but what is trying to
connect to which?.

/etc/X11/config:

# This file contains configuration flags for the X Window System.
# For a description of the meanings of the flags, see
# /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian

run-xconsole
obey-nologin
allow-user-resources
allow-user-modmap
allow-user-xsession
allow-failsafe
start-xfs
no-xdm-start-server
use-sessreg
start-xdm
=


Re: xdm at startup?

1998-11-30 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And to change the default xdm background, install Xbanner.

Not neccessarilly. If you only want a simple background (e.g. a solid
bacground in any color) you only need to edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession_0
to include a call to xsetroot.

peloy.-


compiling xfree 3.3.3?

1998-11-30 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.

Given some of the strange quirks on my machine, and that xfree 3.3.3 
won't make it into slink, I'm toying with compiling it myself.  But 
aren't there a couple of oddities about xfree  debian that I need to 
know about?  Or can i just compile it?  or swap the tarball with the 
3.3.2 source and do a sed replace?

rick

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Re: xdm at startup?

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon
On 30 Nov 1998, Eloy A. Paris wrote:

 Martin Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And to change the default xdm background, install Xbanner.
 
 Not neccessarilly. If you only want a simple background (e.g. a solid
 bacground in any color) you only need to edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession_0
 to include a call to xsetroot.

So does this mean that you could do something like xscreensaver, and have
a groovy animation as your xdm background? that would be way cool :)

Matthew

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Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems

1998-11-30 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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| On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 01:39:25PM +1100, Richard Lyon wrote:
|   We'll find out shortly.  I'm FTPing the sources from sunsite.  Never
|   did like the Debian way of doing the Kernel.
|  
|
|  GULP This seems a bit drastic, make zlilo works for me with 2.0.34.
|  It almost seems like you have not installed all the right development
|  bits. Have you got a copy of these missing header files anywhere on your
|  machine?
|
| Drastic?  Why?  Seems sensable to me.
[snip]

Personally, I rarely use the stock Debian kernels. Mainly because I
have an Adaptec 2940UW that isn't supported so well, at least until
2.0.36, without patches. I also fiddle with the development kernels on
occasion. With make-kpkg I can easily build my own custom kernels and
install them just as I would one of the stock Debian kernels.

I'm also a bit of a control freak when it comes to my kernels. I want
to be able to boot my kernel and have access to all the hardware I'd
need to do a full restore of my system from tape, without kernel
modules. It makes it easier to build a set of custom rescue diskettes
with such a kernel and the stock Debian kernel doesn't allow this.

So, Steve building his own kernels, directly from the source on
ftp.kernel.org (mirrored on sunsite) isn't so unusual.

Gary


ld can't find -lstdc++

1998-11-30 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I too am a victim of the __register_frame_info fiasco. :)

I used the fix that Mitch suggested which seemed to correct the problems.
Unfortunately, I can't compile C++ programs now.  I get link errors like:

/usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lstdc++: No such file or directory
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

but libstdc++ appears to exist:

-rw-r--r--   1 root root  1869960 Nov 25 13:22 
libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.a
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   260908 Nov 25 13:25 
libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   29 Nov 30 12:52 
libstdc++-libc6.0-1.a.2 - libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.a
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   30 Nov 30 12:50 
libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 - libstdc++-2-libc6.0-1-2.9.0.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   20 Mar 24  1998 libstdc++.so.2.7.2 
- libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   240240 Oct  7  1997 
libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   18 Nov 30 11:12 libstdc++.so.2.8 - 
libstdc++.so.2.8.0
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   270044 Nov 27 17:03 libstdc++.so.2.8.0
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 2424 Nov 25 13:25 libstdc++.so.2.9

By the way, why is libstdc++.so.2.9 so small?

Any suggestions on how to correct this link problem?

Thanks,
-Ossama
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What does the # of supported visuals depend on?

1998-11-30 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi!

I am currently porting my program from an SGI to a DEC Ultrix and a
PC Linux system.  The biggest problem (besides byte swapping stuff)
is the number of supported visuals.  On the SGI I can chooes between
lots of different truecolor, directcolor and pseudocolor visuals.
The same on the DEC (with smaller colormaps however :-[ ), but on
my Linux box with XFree running in 16bpp mode I only have _one_
truecolor visual.  If I start X with 8bpp I get some more, but then
the truecolor visuals look really ugly.

So, I am really wondering:
 What does the number of supported visuals depend on?
 And why is there no pseudocolor visual in 16bpp?

Any help or pointer is appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
 Andy.

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?what version of glibc?

1998-11-30 Thread Daryl Williams
i am running debian linux 2.0.34 and i need to determine what
version of glibc and libthread are installed on the system. i did
a strings on libc that yielded the following information:

GNU C Library production release version 2.0.7, by Roland McGrath et al.

but running strings on libpthread yields no success. is there a better
way to determine the version of a library?

tia,

//daryl

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HELP! 2.0 (hamm) base install impass

1998-11-30 Thread Yavuz Onder
Hi,

I have installed 5 1.4MB base floppies without any problem. Then I have
browsed the dselect to familiarize myself with it, and quit it and went
to bad happy.

This was three nights ago.

Since then I am trying to continue from where I left to connect to a
mirror site and finish up my installation.

I have two formidable blocks:

   * Although the base install was promised to contain networking I
 cannot see the pppd, chat etc in there.
   * I cannot start dselect. I cannot even find an executable called
 dselect (or dpkg for that matter) neither in the environment
 booted off the floppy, nor in the hard-disk system that I
 installed. Yet I am sure they must be there, as I have been dropped
 into dselect once.

Since I don't have the latter, I cannot install the former. And since I
don't have the former, I cannot download and experiment with various
pieces fast enough to get out of this bind.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...




Re: HELP! 2.0 (hamm) base install impass

1998-11-30 Thread M.C. Vernon

 I have installed 5 1.4MB base floppies without any problem. Then I have
 browsed the dselect to familiarize myself with it, and quit it and went
 to bad happy.

:)
 
 This was three nights ago.
 
 Since then I am trying to continue from where I left to connect to a
 mirror site and finish up my installation.
 
 I have two formidable blocks:
 
* Although the base install was promised to contain networking I
  cannot see the pppd, chat etc in there.

try dpkg -s ppp. ppp and ppp-pam should be installed as part of the base
system.

* I cannot start dselect. I cannot even find an executable called
  dselect (or dpkg for that matter) neither in the environment
  booted off the floppy, nor in the hard-disk system that I
  installed. Yet I am sure they must be there, as I have been dropped
  into dselect once.

Hmm... are you booting from floppy (the custom boot floppy you made), or
direct from hard disk (it should not matter tho)?

you need to be root to install stuff and configure the network (I've
needed ppp, so I can't help there). /usr/bin/dpkg and /usr/bin/dselect are
the executables you need tho...

HTH,

Matthew

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Re: Kernel 2.0.34 problems

1998-11-30 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote:

 : On Sun, Nov 29, 1998 at 10:22:24AM +0100, Egon Schmid wrote:
 :  Oh sorry, I have never tried to build a kernel the Debian way. So I have
 :  to symlink the header files according the README. Could it be that there
 :  is something wrong?
 : 
 : We'll find out shortly.  I'm FTPing the sources from sunsite.  Never did
 : like the Debian way of doing the Kernel.

Why not?

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Problems with ftp and exporting filesystems.

1998-11-30 Thread Familien Bolding
Hi 

Today I upgraded to netstd ver. 3.07-7 at work with the result that you
can't ftp
to my machine and people can not mount my exported filesystems.
I did a dpkg -S /etc/inetd.conf and the only thing I got was

netbase: /usr/man/man5/inetd.conf.5.gz
so I guess inetd uses and old version of /etc/inetd.conf from a previous
version of netbase.

Does anybody have a clue what I have to upgrade/downgrade/install to get
a working /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/services.

Karsten

PS: I use slink and have installed nfs-server (2.2beta37-1) and 
wu-ftpd-academ (2.4.2.16-12).

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