Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM

2000-12-18 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

El Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 04:33:27PM +0100, Andres Seco Hernandez disidio 
iscribir:
 Al hilo de la RAM, tengo varios equipos (486) con 4 MB, pero veo que
 potato no se deja montar con menos de 12.

Y es una pena :-(

 ¿Qué puede ser más recomendable? ¿Usar hamm o slink?

Yo creo que aunque para instalar necesite 12, luego debe funcionar con
4. Quizas lo suyo sería hacerle una mininstalacion Slink y apt*ualizar a
Potato.

 ¿usar una distribución de esas especiales para mini equipos?

Es buena alternativa, aunque si puedes meter Debian será mejor a largo
plazo (nuevas versiones de programas, etc...)

 Es que preferia usar potato también, para mantener todos los equipos con
 lo mismo.
 
 Evidentemente, no tengo grandes espectativas sobre lo que puedo hacer con
 esos equipitos.

Ni grandes ni pequeñas :- Sólo me he topado con un 486 4Mb (le metí
Slink), y era absolutamente desesperante hasta para la operación más
simple. Creo que la palabra paciencia alcanza nuevas dimensiones ante
esos equipos O:-)

El mismo equipo con 8Mb parecía otra cosa completamente distinta, así
que si pudieses ampliar, o fundir cada par de equipos en uno solo, sería
genial (es muy desesperante esperar un minuto para abrir el joe :-(( )

Saludines
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¿Donde están mis eth's matarilerilerile, donde...?

2000-12-18 Thread Javier Vi?uales Guti?rrez
Buenos días, tardes o noches, según dependa.

Acabo de meter en mi portatil el núcleo 2.4-test12 de GNU/Linux y todo ha
ido perfecto, el soporte integrado de pcmcia ha solucionado el follón
existente con el pcmcia-cs 3.22 que a m no me funcionaba con mi ethernet
compatible ne2000 y muchas cosas más que funcionan mejor.

La sopresa ha venido al hacer un 'apt-get update; apt-get upgrade' después
de desinstalar el paquete pcmcia-cs dado que posteriormente he instalado
pcmcia-cs diréctamente desde sus fuentes originales y no me ha dado
problemas, si, si me he leido el README_2.4 y todo perfecto.

El caso es que al reiniciar e intentar acceder a red, he descubierto que no
tenía mis /dev/ethX, ¿cómo es posible?, ¿quien ha osado aniquilarlos?, que
poco respeto :-D

en fin, me lo tomo a bien pero en realidad estoy bastante escamado,
alguien me podría indicar qué puede haber pasado y cómo puedo solucionarlo.

Muchas gracias y un saludo.
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Soft de Backup.

2000-12-18 Thread Villanueva Tosquella, Pablo
Hola a todos:
Hace un tiempo pedí en la lista opiniones sobre una configuración
para poder realizar copias de seguridad de una red local (TODO Windows). La
popuesta era la siguiente.

 Propuesta:
 - Servidor Linux Debian.
 - Compartir mediante Samba y seguridad=user para que no se puedan
ver los directorios personales entre ellos.
 - Backup usando amanda o kbackup, todavía no lo tengo claro.
Necesitaría uno con interface de línea de comandos (para lanzarlo
desde un cron y con un interface de menú o gráfico para el interactivo.
 - Cinta DAT Seagata 12/24 GB (Si está soportado).


He podido hacer unas cuantas pruebas con el kbackup, pero me peta
estrepitosamente. Lo único que he conseguido es que me diga que hay un error
en la copia (sin dar más pistas).

Por favor, ¿sabe alguien de otras opciones?.


Saludos
Pablo Villanueva



Re: Debian_en_portátil_con_poca_RAM

2000-12-18 Thread first last
   flwm?
   blackbox? 

   En mi 486/66 con 16 megas no van mal. (ya os dire 
como va en un pentium 100 con 16 que me acaban de 
regalar :).

   A mi me va mas flwm porque los menus (EL menu) es
accesible desde el teclado, asi que no tengo que usar
el raton para casi nada.

   Suerte

   Gabriel


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DPT SmartRaidV

2000-12-18 Thread Alexis Roda
Hola a todos,
tengo un equipo con una controladora SCSI DPT SmartRaidV PM2654U2 en el
que me gustaria instalar potato, todos los discos estan conectados a
esta controladora. Adaptec suministra drivers para linux i los nucleos
2.2.x soportan I2O. Mis dudas son:

¿Me la detectara en el arranque de la instalacion? El equipo esta en
produccion y no puedo pararlo para probarlo hasta el dia de la
instalacion.

En caso negativo ¿es posible utilizar un disco de arranque con un nucleo
personalizado para iniciar la instalacion y despues continuar desde el
CD?


Gracias por adelantado.


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Re: El ratón de las X no me funciona.

2000-12-18 Thread Oscar Ramos Moreno
Hace poco tiempo yo tambien he tenido un problema con el ratón y las X. 
Durante año y medio mi ratón ha funcionado como un ps2 normal en /psaux y 
como ps2(configurado desde XF86Setup). Pero mi problema empieza por que sin 
saber muy bien porque cambia de tipo y a otro puerto.
Así mi consejo es q ejecutes el XF86Setup y pruebes hasta encontrar uno q 
funcione.





From: Alberto Rodríguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org 
debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

Subject: El ratón de las X no me funciona.
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:13:00 +

Tengo un Mouseman puerto serie de Logitech. Lo cierto es que cuando
arranco las X, el ratón no se mueve. Originariamente las X no me
funcionaban, pero esto es algo que pude solucionar con XF86Setup.

El ratón sin embargo sigue sin moverse en modo gráfico.

No tengo ningún entorno de escritorio por defecto, sólo elegí en la
instalación el twm como administrador de ventanas.

Pueden ayudarme a solucionar el problemas del ratón?

Desde ya, muchísimas gracias.


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RDSI: es urgente

2000-12-18 Thread Carlos López
Hola a todos.


Tengo una emergencia grave.
¿Sabe alguien que tipo de tarjetas RDSI soportadas por
linux admiten ambos canales de la RDSI a la vez ???
Necesito conseguir un ancho de banda de 128kb.


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RE: RDSI: es urgente

2000-12-18 Thread Angel Vicente Perez

 Hola a todos.


 Tengo una emergencia grave.
 ¿Sabe alguien que tipo de tarjetas RDSI soportadas por
 linux admiten ambos canales de la RDSI a la vez ???
 Necesito conseguir un ancho de banda de 128kb.


En principio, yo creo que todas, luego depende de los proveedores de acceso:
con iddeo por ejemplo solo se puede utilizar un canal. Nosotros tenemos una
Eicon Diva PCI 2.01

Saludos



Re: Debian_en_portátil_con_poca_RAM

2000-12-18 Thread Carles Pina i Estany


Hola

flwm?
blackbox?

Debian en portátil con poca ram?

Slackware (lo siento, pero me mandaron hacerlo con slack) dice que
necesita 16 MB para instalarse. La instalé con 4 MB de RAM, slack 7.1 en
un portátil sin cd-rom (a mano)

Tuve que hacer los boot disk y root disk con un ram disk de 1700 kb (más
no funcionaba) y copiar a mano los paquetes y demás...

fascinante!


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Re: Módulos, modutils y demás zarandajas

2000-12-18 Thread José Luis Gómez Dans
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 08:34:57PM +0100, Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, José Luis Gómez Dans wrote:
  ¿Dónde están todas esas definiciones? (Por favor, sed un poco
  específicos, algunas están en la documentación del kernel, pero no
  todas). 
 
 Parece haber una lista en /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt

¡Uuuhhh! Si ese fichero lo había visto, pero hace falta tener un
cerebro asín de grande para entenderlo :-) Gracias de todas formas, creo
que es el documento que estaba buscando.

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Re: RDSI: es urgente

2000-12-18 Thread Sergio Valdivielso Gomez
Carlos López wrote:
 
 Hola a todos.
 
 Tengo una emergencia grave.
 ¿Sabe alguien que tipo de tarjetas RDSI soportadas por
 linux admiten ambos canales de la RDSI a la vez ???
 Necesito conseguir un ancho de banda de 128kb.
 
 Gracias por adelantado.
 
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Si son externas todas, si son internas puesalgunas.
ziyxel es interna y funciona.
Activar en el kernel todos los modulos referidos a rdsi, tener instalado
un demonio que se llama multilink protocol (mpppd), y luego ademas tener
instalado un paquete de utilidades que se llama isdn4kutils, rezar para
que tu tarjeta este soportada.
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Re: [Anuncio] Wordtrans 0.8

2000-12-18 Thread José Esteban

Hola.

Ricardo Villalba wrote:


Acabo de subir a mi web la versión 0.8 de Wordtrans.
...
Por cierto, ¿alguien tiene Qt 2.2.2? ¿no habeis notado nada raro con esa
versión? A mi de vez en cuando me es imposible teclear acentos (me sale
cami'on, p'ajaro, etc.)


A mí también me ocurre, pero solo lo había observado en emacs. Cuando me 
ha ocurrido, he buscado pistas en emacs y no he encontrado nada. Estaré 
atento al resto de aplicaciones. De pronto (raramente) ocurre y, de 
pronto, ya no ocurre ¿no?


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RDSI: es urgente (parte 2)

2000-12-18 Thread Carlos López
Hola de nuevo.


¿Alguien tiene experiencia en usar el Courier I Modem
de US Robotics para realizar llamadas RDSI??

¿Funciona bien con linux?


Gracias.

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Re: ¿Donde están mis eth's matarilerilerile, donde...?

2000-12-18 Thread Amaya
Javier Vi?uales Guti?rrez dijo:
 El caso es que al reiniciar e intentar acceder a red, he descubierto que no
 tenía mis /dev/ethX, ¿cómo es posible?, ¿quien ha osado aniquilarlos?, que
 poco respeto :-D

Pues sí, los 2.4 no me gustan mucho, pero bueno.

 en fin, me lo tomo a bien pero en realidad estoy bastante escamado, alguien
 me podría indicar qué puede haber pasado y cómo puedo solucionarlo.

Imagino que usas la íltima versión de modutils y otros paquetes relacionados.
Para arreglarlo:

#/dev/MAKEDEV/ update

update  This only works on kernels which have /proc/interrupts
(introduced during 1.1.x). This file is scanned to see what
devices are currently configured into the kernel, and this is
compared with the previous settings stored in the file called
DEVICES. Devices which are new since then or have a different
major number are created, and those which are no longer
configured are deleted.  
O bien:
#/dev/MAKEDEV/ generic

generic Create a generic subset of devices. This is the standard
devices, plus floppy drives, various hard drives,
pseudo-terminals, console devices, basic serial devices,
busmice, and printer ports.  

 Muchas gracias y un saludo.

ültimamente no se me porta tan mal como antes, pero mi primera experiencia con
un 2.4 me enfadó considerablemente...

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Re: Errores al compilar el núcleo

2000-12-18 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On 18 Dec 2000 00:06:33 +, Alberto Rodríguez wrote:
   Acabo de instalar debian-potato. He instalado kernel-source2.2.17...
 
 Me meto en /usr/src/linux, hago make menuconfig y obtengo el siguiente
 error:
 make menuconfig
 rm -f include/asm
 ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
 make -C scripts/lxdialog all
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE 
 -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h   -c -o lxdialog.o lxdialog.c
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
 make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 servidor:/usr/src/linux#
 
 Qué paquetes extras me hacen falta?
 

libncurses y libncurses-dev

 Gracias por adelantado y saludos.
 
saludos



paquetes antiguos

2000-12-18 Thread Sergio Valdivielso Gomez
Muy buenas a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
¿alguien me puede decir donde puedo encontrar paquetes antiguos de
debian?.
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HD Samsung 40G ATA-100

2000-12-18 Thread Jaume Sabater
Enas...

Que... qué sabeis de los HD Samsung de 40G ATA-100?? Lo digo porque hace
una semana compré dos unidades de esas, el veirnes pasado se me corrompió
uno de los discos a saco, y el sábado el otro... Vamos, que me han
fastidiao el finde... Yo quisiera saber que es el causante de semejante
desastre, pues a ver si tengo que devolver esos dos discos, o es que tengo
que cambiar la placa base...

Por el canal de #debian del irc.hispano.org me han sugerido que la culpa es
de Samsung, que hace una mierdecilla de discos... Pero ¿como me pueden
petar dos discos NUEVOS en una semana? Si se os ocurre otro posible
causante de dolores fuertes de cabeza...

Gracias

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Re: Dynamic DNS

2000-12-18 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a



Si no me equivoco puedes buscar en la documentación de 'bind',
también hay una FAQ y en el DNS-HOWTO se habla de ello...
prueba a buscar en google.com dynamic+dns+faq

Javi

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 08:27:25AM -0600, Carlos López wrote:
 A las buenas.
 
 ¿Sabe alguien donde puedo localizar documentacion
 sobre dynamic dns y el software necesario ???
 
 
 Gracias.
 
 
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Re: paquetes antiguos

2000-12-18 Thread José Luis Gómez Dans
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:06:23PM +, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez wrote:
 Muy buenas a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ¿alguien me puede decir donde puedo encontrar paquetes antiguos de
 debian?.

En ftp.debian.org hay un directorio que se llama archive, si no
me falla la memoria. Unos peaso paquetes que hay ahí metidos. La mar de
útiles para usar con mulinux/tomsrbtstststs

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Re: paquetes antiguos

2000-12-18 Thread Jordi
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 04:06:23PM +, Sergio Valdivielso Gomez wrote:
 Muy buenas a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ¿alguien me puede decir donde puedo encontrar paquetes antiguos de
 debian?.

archive.debian.org debian-archive tiene todas las distribuciones antiguas
(creo que excepto slink, todas en source solo).



Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM

2000-12-18 Thread dbote
On Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:20:56PM +0100, Andres Herrera wrote:
 ... 
 Intenta con icewm (pena de aspecto O:-))
 ...

Sin ganas de polémica, a mí me parece muy bueno por, pequeño, consume 
pocos recursos, muy fácilmente configurable, muchos aspectos precocinados con 
el paquete icethemes o algo así, enfin, muy bueno. Al cesar ...

Saludos.

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Re: Mirar procesos después de

2000-12-18 Thread Pérez

¡Qué casualidad! Ahora mismo estoy yo escuchando precisamente ese disco :)

El día Mon, 18 Dec 2000 01:40:05 +0100, Hue-Bond dijo:

  Estaba yo todo  embebido en los compases  de Incantations (de
   lo mejorcito del señor Mike Oldfield) cuando de repente el disco se
   pone a rascar y  veo en el gkrellm que la carga se  pone casi a 3 y
   hay actividad de swap (escritura si no me equivoco). En el xosviev,
   normalmente está todo amarillo, por estar el [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 ejecutándose
   con prioridad  baja. Cuando  hay mucha carga,  una parte  del micro
   queda en  negro (o sea sin  usar... ¿bug de xosview?).  Eso también
   ocurrió  ahora. El  mpg123, aún  a pesar  de que  le puse  5 Mb  de
   buffer, me interrumpe un momento la música.
  
   ¡ARGH!
  
   Lanzo  un top,  pero  ya  es tarde.  Quiero  saber qué  maldito
   proceso tuvo  la osadía :^D  de ponerme  el sistema tan  verde. ¿Me
   sirve el proccess accounting?
  
   Pienso en poner un exec*() logger... ¿alguien tiene?
  
  
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Re: Despues de instalar Debian

2000-12-18 Thread Israel Gutierrez
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El vie, 15 de dic de 2000, a las 06:45:35 +0100, Eugenio Muñoz Doyague dijo:
  windowsmaker que supongo que se instala por defecto... ´
 En efecto. Puedes poner el que mas te guste en el archivo /etc/X11/Xsession 
 para que sea por defecto pa todo el mundo. 
 A mi me gusta mas poner el que yo quiero en el archivo .xsession del 
 directorio $HOME.
 Por ejemplo: 
 gestor que me gusta
Yo no llevo mucho con Debian, pero creo que es mas debianero hacer:
update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

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Re: Errores al compilar el núcleo

2000-12-18 Thread Israel Gutierrez
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El lun, 18 de dic de 2000, a las 12:06:33 +, Alberto Rodríguez dijo:
 In file included from lxdialog.c:22:
 dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory
Yo diria que ademas te hace falta el paquete dialog.

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Como configuro que demonios parten?

2000-12-18 Thread DEWBaCK



Hola, quisiera saber como configurar (seleccionar) 
que deminios parten el iniciarse la m{aquina y cuales no.
Me refiero a un metodo m{as que editar a mano los 
symlinks desde los runlevels hacia el init.d.


Gracias.

Chau.

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Re: Política sobre que software se mete en Debian

2000-12-18 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a writes:
  
  
   Bueno, tarde pero llega...
  
   Se puede empaquetar cualquier cosa con licencia libre en Debian pero
  es prerogativa del autor autorizar esto, sí, aunque sea GPL. Como mínimo se
  debe enviar una nota al autor diciéndole he empaquetado esto ¿tienes
  problema porque lo distribuya en Debian?

Hasta donde yo sé, si es software libre puedes modificarlo y
redsitribuirlo. Luego puedes modificarlo para Debian, y puedes
redistribuirlo en Debian. Otra cosa es que por educación quieras
avisar al autor...

Saludos,

Jesus.

  
  On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 09:29:46PM +0100, Luis M. Arroyo Egoscozabal wrote:
   Hola, tengo una duda.
   ¿Que paquetes [ mejor software] se pueden meter en una distribución de
   Debian?
   Me explico. Si navegando por ahí, me encuentro unas librerías para algo, o
   un juego de mus :-) que se ha realizado acogiéndose a la licencia GPL, pero
   sólo esta en formato tar.gz, puede cualquiera hacer un paquete .deb, o 
   tiene
   que autorizarlo el autor del software, o cómo funciona eso?
   
   
   Gracias por sacarme de mi ignorancia... :-)
   
   Esta pregunta se quedo en el tintero por falta de tiempo en la conferencia
   de jfs en el irc, aprovecho para felicitarte por esta y la del Hispalinux 
   de
   Octubre...
   
  
   Es una lástima... dos horas y se quedaron cosas en el tintero... en
  fín... para aquellos que querais (y no pudisteis asistir) creo que la
  conferencia está en http://umeet.uninet.edu (el diario de la sesión IRC)
  
   Un saludo
  
   Javi
  
  
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Re: La barra de Gnome

2000-12-18 Thread Vicente
 Probando a cambiar los gestores de ventanas me encontre que al volver a
 restablecer el sawfish no me cargaba los iconos del escritorio, pero
 estaban
 en .gnome-desktop. :-?

Yo no conseguí que aparecieran hasta qeu me actualicé
a helix-gnome
 
 Por cierto, hay alguna forma de crear un escritorio continuo, como en
 fvwm,
 que segun mueves el raton hacia el borde vas metiendote en el siguiente.

Botón central sobre el escritorio,
Settings
Virtual Desktop Settings
Activa Enable edge flip

Pero no sé si será como el fvwm.

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Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM

2000-12-18 Thread Amaya

Hola, os contesto un poco a los dos ;-)

Andres Herrera dijo:
 El Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 04:33:27PM +0100, Andres Seco Hernandez disidio 
 iscribir:
  Al hilo de la RAM, tengo varios equipos (486) con 4 MB, pero veo que
  potato no se deja montar con menos de 12.
 
 Y es una pena :-(

Se pueden bajar unos disquetes de arranque para equipos con poca RAM.
Es un rollo instalar así, pero va mejor.

  ¿Qué puede ser más recomendable? ¿Usar hamm o slink?
 
 Yo creo que aunque para instalar necesite 12, luego debe funcionar con
 4. Quizas lo suyo sería hacerle una mininstalacion Slink y apt*ualizar a
 Potato.

En mi modesta opinión, una Slink irá mejor (yo tengo 32 megas de RAM y he visto
caer el rendimiento al pasar a Potato y luego a Woody).
 
  ¿usar una distribución de esas especiales para mini equipos?
 
 Es buena alternativa, aunque si puedes meter Debian será mejor a largo
 plazo (nuevas versiones de programas, etc...)

Mi consejo: Debian, Debian, Debian. Está bien soportada, documentada, ya la
conoces... Esas minidistros no están mal, pero si vas a usar las máquinas para
algo medianamente serio (tirar correo y otras cosillas que pueden hacer sin
mayor esfuerzo), merece la pena poner una debian en condiciones.

 Ni grandes ni pequeñas :- Sólo me he topado con un 486 4Mb (le metí
 Slink), y era absolutamente desesperante hasta para la operación más simple.
 Creo que la palabra paciencia alcanza nuevas dimensiones ante esos equipos
 O:-)

Yo he probado un portátil 486 que no se deja tocar el disco ni a tiros y lo que
es la instalación de Slink iba bien, pero la de Potato se comía al pobre bicho
:-(

O sea, que no lo he usado realmente, pero tampoco iba tan mal. Como consola
está de lujo.

 El mismo equipo con 8Mb parecía otra cosa completamente distinta, así que si
 pudieses ampliar, o fundir cada par de equipos en uno solo, sería genial (es
 muy desesperante esperar un minuto para abrir el joe :-(( )

Completamente de acuerdo. Nunca hay suficiente RAM.


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Re: Como configuro que demonios parten?

2000-12-18 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a

Lo que buscas es update-rc.d que gestiona los enlaces (puede
ponerlos y quitarlos a capricho). En cualqueir caso ten en cuenta que el
superdemonio inetd lanza los suyos bajo demanda (ficher /etc/inetd.conf)
a ver si un día tengo tiempo de traducir la Debian-Securing HOWTO..

Javi


On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 03:51:32PM -0300, DEWBaCK wrote:
 Hola, quisiera saber como configurar (seleccionar) que deminios parten el 
 iniciarse la m{aquina y cuales no.
 Me refiero a un metodo m{as que editar a mano los symlinks desde los 
 runlevels hacia el init.d.
 
 
 Gracias.
 
 Chau.
 
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Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM

2000-12-18 Thread Amaya
ciph3r dijo:
 quiero usar el WindowMaker más que nada para poder lanzar Emacs con
 colorines 

Eso no depende del gestor de ventanas ;-)

 y como mucho un Netscape antiguo en el que recibir el correo.

Lee el correo en consola con Pine o Mutt. Van de vicio!

 Yo tenía entendido que el WindowMaker consumía poco. ¿Si lo pongo sin
 temas ni nada, consumirá menos?

Cuantas menos pijadas, menos consumo, está claro. Pero Emacs no es precisamente
ligero tampoco.

 Si quisiera más rendimiento, ¿vosotros lo haríais a base de más RAM o de más
 MHz?

Yo metería RAM a muerte y un disco rápido. Pero me imagino que a ciertos
niveles tampoco se nota tanto.

 Aunque muy callado, sigo este correo desde hace tiempo, e incluso te seguía
 en ECOL aun antes de que aparecieras por aquí. Para mí eres un clásico en
 esto del Linux.

Santiago es _mucho_ Santiago :-)

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Re: HD Samsung 40G ATA-100

2000-12-18 Thread Amaya
Jaume Sabater dijo:
 Si se os ocurre otro posible causante de dolores fuertes de cabeza...

Así a ciegas, la fuente de alimentación? Picos de tensión?
Parece bastante raro, una partida de discos defectuosa?

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debian embebido

2000-12-18 Thread admsis2
Hola, alguien sabe donde puedo encontrar informacion sobre el debina embebido?



Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM (PERO CON PERDÓN)

2000-12-18 Thread infos



Primero de todo perdón por el correo (es que estoy liado con la instalación en casa del Notes 5.0 sobre windows) pero he visto el correo y no me he podido resistir a contestar. Así aprobecho para ver como queda lo del Lotus Notes este...

Yo tengo un P133 con 32Mb y sobre el gestor and bailando entre afterstep y Enlightment (o como se escriba) y van bastante bien los dos.

Pos eso, nada más.. y vuelvo a pedir perdón.

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Para:debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
cc:
Asunto:Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM
Guenas

El Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 01:26:36PM +0100, ciph3r disidio iscribir:
 ¿Qué me recomendáis vosotros? Irá un poco escasito de RAM, pero ¿creeis
 que tirará?. ¿Y con el WM? Sé que es ligerito, pero no sé si me tendré
 que conformar con el fvwm...

Hombree, tirar tirará, pero si puedes poner algo más modestito con
el consumo de RAM, mejor que mejor.

Intenta con icewm (pena de aspecto O:-)) o como último recurso mete uwm
(es my pequeño, pero rarito).

Saludines
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Re: el dselect y el dpkg se me han quedado lelos

2000-12-18 Thread Julian Armando Mena Zapata

yo uso
apt-get dselect-upgrade --fix-missing
y me funciona (a veces)

o 
apt-get -f install

o
cualquier cantidad de cosas que sirvan con el dpkg

intenta primero con
apt-get dselect-upgrade



On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Reverendo wrote:

 Pues si señores, pido ayuda porque al instalar la Potato que vendian los de 
 Solo Programadores Linux, la instalanción empezo a pedir reentry,una y otra 
 vez, y siempre salia el mismo mensaje. Así que le di al no y apartir de ahi 
 el dselect no funciona y salen los siguientes mensajes. Cuando le doy a 
 actualizar:
 
 update available list script returned error exit status 1.
 
 Y cuando le doy a seleccionar paquetes me sale:
 
 dselect: parse, error in file /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 3671 package 
 python-orbit:
 missing version.
 
 Y ahí me quedo.
 Tambien lo he intentado accediendo al paquete con el dpkg -i python-orbit, 
 pero me sigue saliendo el mismo mensaje. Es más, no puedo intalar ningun 
 paquete, sea el que sea.
 Os agradezco por adelantado la ayuda que me podais ofrecer y que santo Linux 
 os lo recompense con muchos bits de software libre.
 un saludo.
 Juan Carlos
 



Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM

2000-12-18 Thread Andres Herrera
Guenas

El Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:57:40PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disidio iscribir:
  Intenta con icewm (pena de aspecto O:-))
 
   Sin ganas de polémica, 

No, no hay polémica. Yo expresé una manía puramente personal, como la
que pueda tener por las gambas :-)))

a mí me parece muy bueno por, pequeño, consume pocos recursos, 

Totalmente de acuerdo.

muy fácilmente configurable, muchos aspectos precocinados con el paquete 
icethemes o algo así, enfin, muy bueno.
Al cesar ...

Si estoy de acuerdo, es pequeño, rápido y configurable. Es pura manía:
lo veo y me pasa como con el fvwm95: tengo esa sensación de ¿me he
equivocado de cuento?. Eso sí, si por el mismo tamaño y velocidad le
quitan la barra inferior y le ponen el wharf o zharf o como se llame la
del windowmaker y me lo llevo puesto, oiga :-)))

Pensándolo bien, a lo mejor hasta se puede hacer.

Saludines
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Re: Alienar RPMs...

2000-12-18 Thread José Esteban

Hola.

Soy reciente en linux, pero antes de Potato, y en su espera, me instalé 
una SuSE 6.3. Quizá debido a mi querencia por Debian, probé varios 
gestores de paquetes que andaban por allí, por los menús de KDE, y que 
afirmaban poder gestionar paquetes debian. Cada uno de los gestores tuvo 
su oportunidad en diversas ocasiones, y nunca conseguí echar a andar un 
.deb en SuSE.


La verdad es que tampoco se las apañaban demasiado bien con los rpm, 
pero eso no me importaba, tiraba de YaST. Y también, seguro que otras 
utilidades de consola seguro que irían mejor.


El caso es que salí yo escaldado de eso de andar mangoneando con los 
formatos de paquetes. Hasta que no hace mucho, ya con debian, decidí que 
necesitaba urgentemente instalar la ultímííísima versión de Amaya, y 
decidí tirar de alien, a ver qué pasaba, porque ésa no la localizaba en 
formato .deb.


Dado que fue como la seda, pues supongo que ésta es una importante 
utilidad de alien, puesto que no debe ser muy bueno soltar directamente 
al rpm en el patio debian.


Saludos.

Faro wrote:


On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 12:31:39AM -, BPD :-) wrote:
...
Mi pregunta es: Ya que veo que por internet se distribuyen casi todos los 
programas de linux (que exagerado :-)) en formato RPM y que debian tiene la 
utilidad 'alien' para pasarlo de formato. La utilidad 'alien' nunca falla? o 
sea, todos los programas se pueden pasar a formato .deb sin muchos 
problemas?



Creo que lo mejor es que instales .deb nativos. Te sorprenderás de
la cantidad de ellos que hay disponibles. Sólo en el caso de algún
programa concreto debes tirar de alien. Ahora mismo no se me ocurre
ninguno :-/
 



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Re: Debian en portátil con poca RAM

2000-12-18 Thread José Esteban

Hola.

Amaya wrote:




Si quisiera más rendimiento, ¿vosotros lo haríais a base de más RAM o de más
MHz?



Yo metería RAM a muerte y un disco rápido. Pero me imagino que a ciertos
niveles tampoco se nota tanto.



RAM,RAM,RAM.

Si usas X, abres aplicaciones+ventanas (RAM). Si no usas pijadas con 
texturas y eso (y no se te ocurre utilizar Mozilla), no necesitas 
demasiada CPU. Y si dejas abierto siempre lo que usas (lo que es viable 
con mucha RAM), no molestas mucho al disco.


Por cierto, y hablando de Mozilla. ¿Es igual de pesado Open Office?

Saludos.
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Granada. Spain.



Re: El ratón de las X no me funciona.

2000-12-18 Thread Alberto Rodríguez
Javier Vi?uales Guti?rrez wrote:
 
 On lun, dic 18, 2000 at 12:13:00 +, Alberto Rodríguez wrote:
Tengo un Mouseman puerto serie de Logitech. Lo cierto es que cuando
  arranco las X, el ratón no se mueve. Originariamente las X no me
  funcionaban, pero esto es algo que pude solucionar con XF86Setup.
 
  El ratón sin embargo sigue sin moverse en modo gráfico.
 
 Pon en tu /etc/gpm.conf lo siguiente:
 repeat_type=raw
 
 Si te funciona el ratón en consola, te ha de funcionar en X, partiendo de la
 base que tienes bien el /etc/X11/XF86Config.
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Pues nada, que sigue sin funcionarme el ratón en las X. De hecho mira lo
que hay ahora mismo en mi gpm.conf:

device=/dev/mouse
responsiveness=15
repeat_type=raw
type=mman
append=

donde /dev/mouse es un enlace simbólico a ttyS1, que es donde tengo
puesto el ratón.

Ah! Otra cosa extrañísima, con el dmesg veo que debian me detecta mi
MouseMan de Logitech puerto serie como un raton tipo psaux. Alguien
entiende algo?

A ver quien me echa una manita...

Gracias y saludos.



Re: Sparc 5 Debian

2000-12-18 Thread orange

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Fredrik Bjurenfors wrote:
 Under installationen nu så stöter jag på alla möjliga problem med att 
 den hänger sig under första instalationen till att den vid första 
 rebooten hängers sig och säger att den inte kan hitta arp/rarp paket.

Skall du nätboota den?
Jag har haft stora probelm med Linux som nätbootserver till sparcar.
FreeBSD funkar mycket bättre.

Själv har jag försökt mig på med en SS4'a, med seriel anslutning till en
annan PC, fick ju ialf upp lite text, men kunde aldrig skriva nått så jag
gav upp. Den ville inte ta några kommandon, antagligen ingen dålig idé att
försöka skrapa ihop en skärm/tangentbord. :)

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apt-get upgrade ; apt-setup ; apt-get upgrade

2000-12-18 Thread will trillich
what's the lag on various debian mirror sites?

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

apt-setup /pick a different mirror/

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
Need to get hoards o new stuff.

eh?

in researching an apt-get answer on a previous post, i selected
a new mirror via apt-setup and then did an apt-get update ;
apt-get upgrade...  funny thing, tho -- i had just done the
update/upgrade thing moments before, before running apt-setup.

now, after selecting a different source, i get
% apt-get update
...
% apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be upgraded
  bind-doc elvis-tiny ncurses-term task-dns-server tcpdump
xfree86-common xlib6g
7 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
upgraded.
Need to get 2718kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be
used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

so am i downloading old packages from a stale mirror? or did
this mirror just now get some updates? or maybe different
mirrors have different package subsets? hmm?

i'd just switched from ftp-mirror.internap.com to ftp.digex.net
if that matters...?

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Re: su in X/menus - how?

2000-12-18 Thread kmself
on Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 09:50:40PM -0500, addiction ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Greetings, all.
 
 This may be a newbie-ish question, but here goes. How can I make menu entries
 for programs that need to be run as root? I've tried all kinds of things, and
 the best thing I've come up with (which sucks, really) is opening an xterm and
 doing su -c. Of course I'd rather not do this.. and I'd rather not install
 kdebase
 just to get kdesu. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

One option is to use sudo.  You'll have to run 'sudo -v' to bypass the
timeout, and, depending on use, you'll probably want to set yourself up
with full priviledges under sudo, which while convenient, isn't the
safest thing in the world.

Me, I generally just use an xterm.  Or the 'run' dialog under
WindowMaker.

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X keyboard problem

2000-12-18 Thread N. Raghavendra
Hello,

I am using Debian 2.2r0 and wdm. Often when I log out of an X
session, and return to the wdm login screen, the keyboard dies.
The mouse would be still fine, but I cannot login again because
the keyboard wouldn't be working. It starts working again only
after the machine is rebooted. Sometimes it takes two or three
reboots to get the keyboard going again.

The keyboard section of my XF86Config file looks like this:

Section Keyboard
   ProtocolStandard
   XkbDisable
   XkbKeymap   xfree86(us)
EndSection

(I disabled the XKEYBOARD extension because I thought that may
have been the cause, but the problem still persists, though it
doesn't happen as frequently now.)

The board has 104 keys. Any help is appreciated.

Regards,
Raghavendra.

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Re: Using apt-get upgrade-Any way to get list first? Solved!

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:08:18PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
 
 try
   apt-setup
 or if you don't have that,
   apt-get install base-config
 which provides it. it lets you select, first of all,
 which method (http/ftp) to use.
 
 my sources.list resembles this:
 
   deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free
   deb http://ftp.digex.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
   # deb-src http://ftp.digex.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
 non-free

Thanks for the info.

 apparently ftp was designed for nosing around, checking out
 directory listings, downloading a file, maybe another, moving on
 to another directory... whereas http was designed for here's
 that file you asked for thus making http quicker,
 protocol-wise.

It's just that a while ago I had heard the opposite, that http was for
looking around and so slower. Maybe things have changed.

Thanks again, this is a big help.

Jonathan
 

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Re: exim (probably broken thread)

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 11:49:47AM -0600, Phil Brutsche wrote:
 exim can be configured to run from inetd - I have the commented-out line
 

Ok, thanks for all the help. I'll try and muddle through this. But I
have a direction now.

Jonathan


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How set up kill file?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,
I'm getting spammed by people offering me degress and whatnot. Is this
proverbial kill file another filter listed at te end of my .procmailrc,
or something sourced from somewhere else? Any pointers in how to set one
up apreciated. Especially one that can be easily added to...

Thanks

Jonathan

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Re: Using apt-get upgrade-Any way to get list first? Solved!

2000-12-18 Thread will trillich
Jonathan Gift wrote:
 
 On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 08:08:18PM -0600, will trillich wrote:
 
  try
apt-setup
  or if you don't have that,
apt-get install base-config
  which provides it. it lets you select, first of all,
  which method (http/ftp) to use.
 
  my sources.list resembles this:
 
deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.digex.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
# deb-src http://ftp.digex.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 
  non-free
 
 Thanks for the info.
 
  apparently ftp was designed for nosing around, checking out
  directory listings, downloading a file, maybe another, moving on
  to another directory... whereas http was designed for here's
  that file you asked for thus making http quicker,
  protocol-wise.
 
 It's just that a while ago I had heard the opposite, that http was for
 looking around and so slower. Maybe things have changed.

my first impression was the same.

but when you think about it --

you web browser asks you what address to look up.
you give it the full address; if the server redirects
the browser, it's the server's responsibility to do
so correctly -- at any rate, every image the http
protocol inlines into your web pages, are all specified
in advance. each one is merely gimme file path/to/item!

ftp on the other hand -- if you've ever used ftp from
the command line or even via a web browser --

ftp ftp.somewhere.org.tld
user: nobody
password: somethingelse
careful, we'll track everything you do!
ls
files files files
cd /path
ls
files files files
cd subpath
ls
files files files
image
get some-file-or-other

once the transfer starts, they should be about the same,
but there's lots of overhead for ftp. (okay, i'm exaggerating;
if you know exactly which file to ftp in advance, you can
skip all the LS and CD, but there's still some extra finagling
that HTTP doesn't need.)

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Re: Surfboard 4100 cable modem?

2000-12-18 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 23:11:07 -0500
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   I thought cable-modems generally were external things that used an
 ethernet
 board in the computer itself to hook the system up to the cable box. 
 However,
 he says that Windows doesn't have a driver for any sort of Ethernet
 card,
 instead it has some sort of Motorola Surfboard 4100 driver.  This
 suggests
 to me that they have their own private type of Ethernet card that will
 have
 to be handled.  Does anyone know first if this is correct, and second if
 there's any hope of getting the Linux kernel to talk to these devices? 
 I
 didn't see any promising drivers (aside from a SurfBoard 1000, which is
 completely different) in the kernel.

The Surfboard 4100 can indeed be connected to a Linux box. As long as the
Linux box has an ethernet card and is configured correctly to use it, the
Surfboard will work.

The latest version of the Surfboard has an alternative method of
connecting to the PC by using USB - maybe this is what you mean when you
say that Windows appears to have a Surfboard driver and no ethernet
driver?

-- 
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Using Storm Linux 2000



Re: debian 2.2 + kernel 2.2.18 + USB

2000-12-18 Thread John Travis
 Davi and others:

 I'm interested in the 250 MB ZIP USB that I acquired and use under
 Windows, but want to access it under Linux. I know about
 adding USB support to the kernel, but else must I do?

 Would someone point me to the right place to find how make this
 device work with Potato. RTFM is ok, if the right manual and
 where to find the manual are given.

Nothing really :).  Just load the apropriate modules.  Then mount it 
with something like

mount /dev/sda4 -t vfat  /zip

This is just an example and I don't have any other scsi disks.  You 
have to select the forth partition (due to mac compatibility in the 
disks).  If you formatted them ext2 it would obviously be different.  
Then just add whatever you want to /etc/fstab to simplify matters.  I 
guess the grand total for the modules I would need would be... uhci, 
usbcore, usb-storage, fat, vfat.  But then it all depends on how you 
compiled everything.

HTH,

jt



less can't show ä,ü,ö

2000-12-18 Thread Manuel Hendel
Hi everybody,

kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
if I do a less file.

Thanks for any help,
Manuel



Re: less can't show ä,ü,ö

2000-12-18 Thread Michal F. Hanula
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:52:15AM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
 if I do a less file.
 
 Thanks for any help,
 Manuel
Try less -r 
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Re: less can't show ä,ü,ö

2000-12-18 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:52:15AM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 
 kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
 if I do a less file.

$ export LANG=de_DE

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Re: less can't show ä,ü,ö

2000-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
Manuel Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
if I do a less file.

'less -r file' for a quick fix. 'export LANG=de_DE' works for me, and is
probably better long-term.

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Re: How set up kill file?

2000-12-18 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:37:39AM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: 

 I'm getting spammed by people offering me degress and whatnot. Is this
 proverbial kill file another filter listed at te end of my .procmailrc,
 or something sourced from somewhere else? Any pointers in how to set one
 up apreciated. Especially one that can be easily added to...

Mutt offers scoring and it is supposed to work pretty good. Read the
manual (/usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz) for information.
Of course you can use procmail for this but scoring is more elegant ;)
Phil



Re: less can't show ä,ü,ö

2000-12-18 Thread Cleto Pescia
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Colin Watson wrote:

 Manuel Hendel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
 if I do a less file.
 
 'less -r file' for a quick fix. 'export LANG=de_DE' works for me, and is
 probably better long-term.

'export LC_CTYPE=de_DE' should also work, if you want to keep messages in
English, but still get the Umlaute. At least it works for me with bash.

Cleto



mouse probs on 2.2 install

2000-12-18 Thread Dominic Blythe
used the X configuration script to set up my ps/2 mouse as type 4
during install, and when X is running it stays at the bottom of the 
screen and only moves from side to side. It works ok in character mode.

previous installation of corel worked straight away, no problem.

The only difference is I'm now using a PC99 motherboard, you know with
ps/2 mouse, ps/2 keyboard and usb sockets. In fact, corel still ran the same

after I changed the m/board.

any help gratefully rec'd as I've been running on corel for a long time
and finally found the guts to take on the scary debian install process - 
don't want one little glitch to send me back...

pls copy response 2 me as I can't cope with the list traffic  


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Re: Using apt-get upgrade-Any way to get list first? Solved!

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 01:37:54AM -0600, will trillich wrote:
 but there's lots of overhead for ftp. (okay, i'm exaggerating;
 if you know exactly which file to ftp in advance, you can
 skip all the LS and CD, but there's still some extra finagling
 that HTTP doesn't need.)

Good point. I think they were also talking of general use. Obviously
clicking on web pages is slower, whait with graphics, etc. But a direct
http link would be another matter.

Anyway, I'll stick to the http. Thanks for the help.

Jonathan

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potato, 2.4.0-test11, isdn

2000-12-18 Thread fm
hi

i'm running potato with 2.4.0-test11. isdn is not working:

using the potato isdnutils i was able to dial in and ping a host by it's
name
but neither ftp nor http would work.

using the woody isdnutils (and ppp package) i get the following error

  /sbin/MAKEDEV: major_vc/0=4: No such file or directory)
  isdn_ppp_bind: Can't find a (free) connection to the ipppd daemon.
  ippp0: Resource temporarily unavailable1

any help? if i get it to work i could do a dist-upgrade to woody, since
it seems to me mixing potato with some woody packages is not the best
idea,
is it?

bye
fabian



Re: How set up kill file?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:19:52AM +0100, Philipp Schulte wrote:

 manual (/usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz) for information.
 Of course you can use procmail for this but scoring is more elegant ;)
 Phil

Elegance, as always:) Off to score!

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Re: less can't show ä,ü,ö

2000-12-18 Thread N. Raghavendra
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:52:15AM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote:

 kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
 if I do a less file.

Hello,

Reading from the manpage for 'less', the option '-r' or
'--raw-control-chars' causes raw control characters to be
displayed.

Regards,
Raghavendra.

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Re: How set up kill file?

2000-12-18 Thread kmself
on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:37:39AM +0100, Jonathan Gift ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm getting spammed by people offering me degress and whatnot. Is this
 proverbial kill file another filter listed at te end of my .procmailrc,
 or something sourced from somewhere else? Any pointers in how to set one
 up apreciated. Especially one that can be easily added to...

I've set up and am using Lars Wirzenius's procmail recipes, available
as the Debian 'spamfilter' package.

They're pretty good, but there are some things you should be aware of.

First, I'd suggest the following as a general configuration for setting
up mail filtering rules:

  - backup important messages
  - cron-subroutine
  - handle duplicate messages
  - handle DAEMON MESSAGES
  - handle plus addressed message (RFC plus or sendmail plus addresses)
  - handle server requests (file server, ping responder...)
  - drop MAILING LIST messages
  - send possible vacation replies only after all above
  - apply kill file
  - detect mime and format or modify the message body
  - save private messages
  - and last: FILTER UBE.

My own inclination is to use a default deny policy.  I'm seeing huge 
proportions of Asia-originating spam -- jp, cn, kr, and uunet.com, are
probably my primary sources.  I'd like to be able to set this up at the
ISP level so that I can automatically reject all mail known to be spam,
but am currently stuck with dealing with it after I've downloaded it via
fetchmail.

WRT spamfilter:

  - If you're not familiar with it, procmail rules are somewhat complex,
and Lars is an adept.  Working out what's going on is complicated
for newbies.

  - TURN OFF THE AUTORESPONDER.  The easiest way is to add a negation to
the rule in ~/.procmail/rules/spam.rules:

  * !
  ...prior to the sendmail rule.

  - Enable logging, and I'd highly encourage verbose logging.

  - Go over your mailing list filter rules very carefully.  Anything you
don't catch here will be treated as spam.  I really pissed off a
list admin (and author of a software package I'm quite interested
in) by autoresponding to a post of his as spam.  Not to mention Theo
de Raat's response on OpenBSD-misc last week  Great OS, but man,
what a personality

  - The greylist rules are broken and don't properly identify all list
mail.  They also trap my list *responses* to a couple of lists
incorrectly, meaning my posts don't show in folder.  This is
annoying to say the least.


Other than that (and yes, I sometimes do ask myself if it's been worth
the trouble), the filters are effective.  I get some 500+ pieces of mail
a day, subscribe to over a dozen lists, and see a fair bit of personal
mail.  I've found a few pieces of miscategorized mail, one or two items
of miscategorized spam, and a slightly more substantial amount of mail
which turns up in my greylist.  But the bulk of spam is properly sorted.
What I'm working on now is tools to handle spam responses for me.

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Re: Procmail recipe to fetch gpg keys?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:50:13AM +0100, Thorsten Haude wrote:
 of such a recipe?
 I asked for it a few ago. The trick is to let GPG do it. Put
 set pgp_getkeys_command=
 in your .muttrc and
 keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
 in your .gnupg/options.
 

I have both of these options and will only be able to read keys while
online. No way, I suppose, of getting them while getting mail so
everything is ok offline?

Jonathan

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Re: Woody Progress

2000-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
Raphael Deimel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(Sorry, delayed reaction ...)

From: Scott Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 3. new installer - someone else mentioned it, but this is a definite in my
 book

called deity, imho definitely a must (dselect drives me nuts when i'm
searching for packages ;)

No, deity is the old name for apt. The installer Scott's talking about
isn't part of the package management system; instead it's the
replacement for boot-floppies, which installs a base Debian system from
floppies (erk), CDs, the net, whatever. See the archives of debian-boot
for more information.

Incidentally, I doubt woody will particularly be waiting for gcc 3.0. If
it's released in time, all well and good, but everything I've heard
suggests it's a good way off yet.

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Re: oldest single-step upgrade to 2.2

2000-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
Russell, Richard (DEH) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vaguely recall that about when 2.2 came out, someone was saying that they
upgraded in one hit from a very old version of debian and it worked fine.
What version was it that they upgraded from,and what trouble (if any) did
they come across? (If anyone can remember, that is... :)

Yes, Anne Bezemer was talking about that a couple of months before the
release. Apparently buzz (1.1, the first official release) to potato is
possible with a little manual intervention and one reboot
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd-0005/msg00018.html); there are
instructions at
http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/potato/upgrade-i386/UPGRADING.html.
I've no idea how well they work. :)

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cdrecord

2000-12-18 Thread Debian Ghost
Can anyone help with a cdrecord problem?
I've read the docs and man and still get errors.

Please reply if you have some experience or could lead me to developers.

Thanks,

D. Ghost



remote attack?

2000-12-18 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi,
seems my machine was subject to an remote attack. I saw these in the logs:

Dec 16 05:10:03 ap031 rpc.statd[21964]: gethostbyname error for 
^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%236x%n%137x%n%10x%n%192x%n\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220\220
[...]

How can I find out where the attack came from? Plus I hope that a woody
machine is not vulnerable?
 
Christian



Best entry level scanner USB/P for Potato?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

I'm considering an entry level scanner. Something that will do good work
but not be to expensive if I don't get into it in any big way. Any
recommendations for potato? And will both USB and parallel work? And if
USB, then I have to compile it in the 2.2.17 kernel?

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Re: debian 2.2 + kernel 2.2.18 + USB

2000-12-18 Thread Rob VanFleet
You might also want to check out Iomega.com.  They actually have a small linux
utility that offers *some* of the functions of IomegaTools.  I haven't used it
in awhile, so I don't remember if it was particularly useful, but the download
is just a few KB, so it's worth looking at.

-Rob

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:17:46AM +0100, John Travis wrote:
  Davi and others:
 
  I'm interested in the 250 MB ZIP USB that I acquired and use under
  Windows, but want to access it under Linux. I know about
  adding USB support to the kernel, but else must I do?
 
  Would someone point me to the right place to find how make this
  device work with Potato. RTFM is ok, if the right manual and
  where to find the manual are given.
 
 Nothing really :).  Just load the apropriate modules.  Then mount it 
 with something like
 
 mount /dev/sda4 -t vfat  /zip
 
 This is just an example and I don't have any other scsi disks.  You 
 have to select the forth partition (due to mac compatibility in the 
 disks).  If you formatted them ext2 it would obviously be different.  
 Then just add whatever you want to /etc/fstab to simplify matters.  I 
 guess the grand total for the modules I would need would be... uhci, 
 usbcore, usb-storage, fat, vfat.  But then it all depends on how you 
 compiled everything.
 
 HTH,
 
 jt
 
 
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gphoto + USB

2000-12-18 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
Hi.

How do we specify an USB port?

I have bought an Kodak EZ200 (it is the same as the DC200???) and I
want to use it under Linux.

I already have the 2.2.18 kernel with USB support. :)

I already have instaled the gphoto program. :)

How can I put all that stuff working?

Gphoto ask for an /dev/ttyS0 (1,2,3) Port, or other. How can I say to
it that I have an USB port?

Thanks.

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Gnome user's profile...

2000-12-18 Thread cedric lejeune

Hi everybody!

I've a problem with Gnome and user's profile. When I lauch Gnome, nothing 
seems to append. Alias don't works




Xlock do org message or bitmap?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

Busy day here... I checked xlock's man pages but couldn't find anything
and made numerous attempts playing around, no go. So, the questions are:

1. Can I put an original text msh in xlock's screensaver as in:
xlock -mode text Back 10 mins
2. Can I put in an original image as in:
xlock -image ~/background/wow.jpg

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Gnome users' profile...

2000-12-18 Thread cedric lejeune

Sorry for previous mail! Wrong manipulation... : (

Hi everybody!

I've a problem with Gnome and users' profile. When I lauch Gnome, nothing 
seems to append. Alias don't work, etc... I've a /etc/profile file that 
contains the following command line:


[ -f /usr/local/bin/profile ]  source /usr/local/bin/profile

/usr/local/bin/profile contains the following line:

case $SHELL in
*bash)
[ -f /usr/bin/local/alias ]  source /usr/local/bin/alias
[ -f ~/alias ]  source ~/alias
;;
esac

Something wrong?

One way to solve the problem is to use--login option at prompt line when 
I call xterm (same way with quick lauch button). Another one is to rename 
xterm and create a file that calls xterm --login. But I'd like to know if 
there is a better way.


Thanks for help ; )

cedric.



Re: ssh: localhost: Temporary failure in name resolution

2000-12-18 Thread Andre Berger
kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:

 on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 10:41:05AM +0100, Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
  
   on Sat, Dec 16, 2000 at 12:36:17AM +0100, Andre Berger ([EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]) wrote:
I get ssh: localhost: Temporary failure in name resolution with

ssh_1%3a2.2.0p1-1.1progeny1_i386.deb
ssh-askpass-gnome_1%3a2.2.0p1-1.1progeny1_i386.deb

but I can ping localhost, and I can still access other machines with
ssh. Any ideas? I've just upgraded from potato and its ssh.
   
   Possibly reverse-DNS lookup from the sshd server -- check your logs.  Is
   your DNS server (named) running, if you are using local DNS?  I've had
   issues with servers failing to restart during/after recent updates, tend
   to go through them by hand or script these days.
 Shit, I don't know, I just roll into /var/logs, do an 'ls -t | head
 -number' to see what's reporting current activity, and grep for the
 daemon I'm looking for.  Usually /var/log/daemon.
 
 You're looking for any sshd refused connect errors.  If you're not
 seeing these messages, you're not even getting there.
 
 Other thing to try is 'ssh -v host' -- this will give verbose output on
 the status of the connection, allowing you to troubleshoot from the
 client end.

I found nothing in any log or additional information with 'ssh -v',
but I found a work-around. I added

Host localhost
HostName 127.0.0.1

to /etc/ssh/ssh_config, and 'ssh localhost' now gives
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: and access.

But still I don't understand what's wrong.

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Re: Can you play sounds over the net in Potato?

2000-12-18 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 17 Dec 2000, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 on Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:19:18PM +, Anthony Campbell ([EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Various sites offer you the option to play sound over the net but all
  require you to have some software to enable this.  I followed some links
  for this in Linux Debian but they were all for Woody, which I don't want
  to upgrade to yet.
  
  Is there anything available for Potato?
 
 This is a question which requires a case-by-case answer.  
 
   - Primitive file formats (e.g.:  *.au, *.wav), can be handled through
 the 'play' command (sox package).
 
   - *.ra and *.ram are played by the proprietary RealPlayer player,
 there's a Debian wrapper package but you have to download the
 program yourself.
 
   - Flash is supported with the Shockwave Flash plugin for Netscape,
 Mozilla, etc.  Think twice before accepting it -- there's a hell of
 a lot of Flash abuse on the Net right now.
 
   - Some movie formats play with xanim, though this is primitive.
 There's an xmms plugin for handling several other formats.  
 
   - Quicktime and Windows Media Player formats don't currently play
 under GNU/Linux natively, though you might check with Wine
 emulation.
 
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Thanks for the clarification. I'm very new to sound and was not familiar
with all the formats. I've come across some of the .ram files so I'll
look into the RealPlayer option.

Anthony

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Re: less can't show ä,ü, ö

2000-12-18 Thread Frederico S. Muñoz


Manuel Hendel wrote:
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
 if I do a less file.
 


export LANG=de_DE

or

export LC_CTYPE=de_DE

or, if this doesn't work,

export LESSCHARSET=de_DE

cheers,

fsm
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Re: Surfboard 4100 cable modem?

2000-12-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 07:31:17AM +, Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
I thought cable-modems generally were external things that used an
  ethernet
  board in the computer itself to hook the system up to the cable box. 
  However,
  he says that Windows doesn't have a driver for any sort of Ethernet
  card,
  instead it has some sort of Motorola Surfboard 4100 driver.  This
  suggests
  to me that they have their own private type of Ethernet card that will
  have
  to be handled.  Does anyone know first if this is correct, and second if
  there's any hope of getting the Linux kernel to talk to these devices? 
  I
  didn't see any promising drivers (aside from a SurfBoard 1000, which is
  completely different) in the kernel.
 
 The Surfboard 4100 can indeed be connected to a Linux box. As long as the
 Linux box has an ethernet card and is configured correctly to use it, the
 Surfboard will work.
 
 The latest version of the Surfboard has an alternative method of
 connecting to the PC by using USB - maybe this is what you mean when you
 say that Windows appears to have a Surfboard driver and no ethernet
 driver?

  Ah, maybe that's what's happening.  Unfortunately, it doesn't look like
there's a driver for the USB interface, if that's what they're using. :( So I
guess they'll have to buy more hardware if they want to use Linux, or wait
for someone to write one..

   Thanks,
  Daniel

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2.4 module madness

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Markevich
This has the air of a FAQ, but, here I ask anyway.

I've compiled 2.4.0-test 12 on my potato system... and it won't load any
modules.  This APPEARS to be the new structure of the /lib/modules
directory.. nothing's immediately below /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12, but it's
in a build link to the kernel source!  Is there another step I have
overlooked?

Thanks.

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Re: less can't show ä,ü, ö

2000-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
Frederico S. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mu=F1oz?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Manuel Hendel wrote:
 kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
 if I do a less file.
[...]
or, if this doesn't work,

export LESSCHARSET=de_DE

That should be 'export LESSCHARSET=latin1' or 'export
LESSCHARSET=iso8859'.

Cheers,

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Re: less can't show ä,ü, ö

2000-12-18 Thread Frederico S. Muñoz


Colin Watson wrote:
 
 Frederico S. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mu=F1oz?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Manuel Hendel wrote:
  kann anyone help fixing my problem with less? I can't see any ä,ü or ö
  if I do a less file.
 [...]
 or, if this doesn't work,
 
 export LESSCHARSET=de_DE
 
 That should be 'export LESSCHARSET=latin1' or 'export
 LESSCHARSET=iso8859'.
 


Arrrgh, of course, you're right, I just had de_DE in mind and didn't
think.

yours,

fsm
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Re: installing pine

2000-12-18 Thread David Wright
Quoting Dwight Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, ktb wrote:
 
You might want to try mutt.  I like it a lot better.  It
  took some configuring but it isn't as clunky as pine.
 
 I have recently been trying mutt and, quite honestly, I have find mutt a
 lot clunkier than Pine.
 
 One example: when you call up Pine for the first time in any home
 directory, Pine creates a default .pinerc and it is extremely easy to
 customize Pine from the Pine master menu.
 
 In contrast, with mutt, no .muttrc is created automatically on first use
 and evidently there exists no easy to use configuration program (at least I
 have been unable to find one) as there is in Pine.

These are the sorts of issues that concern beginners who can be
helped by having a good /etc/Muttrc file. Power users aren't really
concerned.

As my institutional copy of mutt resides in my own disk space (they
don't support it), I would be disappointed at being quota'd for all
that redundant help.

 It took me an hour of
 wading through documentation to figure out how to just get my 'From:'
 header to display my e-mail address. Apparently, I must do the same for
 each item of customization I want in mutt.
 
 Another example: control and navigation keys are clearly displayed at the
 bottom of each Pine screen. For the equivalent functionality in mutt, I
 must press '?' and wade through a gadzillion keys displayed over multiple
 screens.

There's a set of key bindings in the deb for people used to pine.
Again, for the power user, there's no desire for real estate to be
wasted on stuff like that.

 I would gladly convert to mutt from Pine just to get a more pure open
 source license. But, in my opinion, the clunkiness of mutt makes such a
 conversion quite formidable when I must still read my e-mail each day.

There are very few different commands you actually need just to
read day-to-day emails, and the keystrokes needed can be (and are
by default?) displayed in one line.

 So I am very surprised to hear you say that you think Pine is clunkier than
 mutt. I would welcome learning in what ways.

Configurability, customisability, whatever, of keystrokes and status
information for each type of screen, navigation, colours, headers,
editor, etc.

Cheers,

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8139too.o module loading problem

2000-12-18 Thread M. V. Nguyen
Hi,

I get the following error message when trying to load the 8139too.o module.

/lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: symbol for parameter
debug not found
/lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.o: insmod 8139too
failed

I'm using woody, generic pentium2 based machine. I compiled the kernel the
debian way cos I'm lazy. I did an upgrade on all the debs before i compiled
this
kernel. The network card is fine because I can still use it in mswindows.

I don't know what the error mean or how to fix the problem. Can someone help
me?

M.



Problems with xutils on woody dist-upgrade

2000-12-18 Thread bryan
Hello,
This morning I did an apt-get -f dist-upgrade on my woody box and
ran into a problem.  The dist-upgrade is stopping with the xutils package.
I get the following:

Unpacking xutils (from .../xutils_4.0.1pre2.RC3-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/xutils_4.0.1pre2.RC3-1_i386.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin/showfont', which is also in package
xcontrib
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/xutils_4.0.1pre2.RC3-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks,
Bryan



Re: Previous versions of woody .debs

2000-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are previous versions of debs in woody kept anywhere? In this case I have
not set apt-move or apt-get to delete old versions, probably just some other
stupidity which has lost me the file. An archive of old versions would help
those who have though!

As far as I know, I'm afraid, previous versions haven't been kept until
very recently. With the advent of package pools, previous versions of
packages are now kept around for a while in debian/pool on Debian
mirrors, although I assume that they're eventually deleted to save disk
space.

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PS Kill File

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
PS Can'y I use procmail as well to send someting to /dev/null? I've read
so much about that and for so long it would be nice...

As in...

# The Killing Files
:0:
* ^Subject.*UNIVERSITY
/dev/null

Jonathan

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VMWare -- Express or Workstation

2000-12-18 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
Greetings,
I was perusing vmware's site http://www.vmware.com, and I noticed the
vmware Express for linux.  Does anyone have a clue on what is different
between the Express and Workstation?  It seems that they both offer the same
functionality.  Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Brooks



version 2.2.14 kernel+pcmcia deb packages needed

2000-12-18 Thread Stodolsky, Marvin
Folks,
IOMEGA has a 2.2.14 compatible ZIP driver available off of 
http://www.iomega.com/software/featured/iomegawarelinux.html
However the small disk laptop I want to use it on is running 2.2.18 and the
2.2.14 deb packages are no longer available at www.debian.org.  While I
could do a tedious work around, it would save me a lot of time if some still
has a  kernel-image-2.2.14-version.deb and the compatible pcmcia-version.deb
packages. 

If anyone still has these packages, 1st reply to this address with
instructions for an FTP download if possible, or just an email notice of
availability.  Haven't my mail box stuffed with 1 M packages is not
desirable.

MarvS



The Debian way (kernel)

2000-12-18 Thread Ray Percival
I'm getting ready to go to kernel 2.2.18. I know there is a Debian way to do 
the kernel but damned if I can think of where I could find it. Could any of you 
please point me towards it and also anybody run into anything to be aware of 
with this one. I'm doing it mostly for the USB backports (think I may be 
getting some devices for xmas :)) In any case any advice would be very cool. 
Thanks.



Re: How set up kill file?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:32:47AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to give such an obviously considered reply.
Given the material you've covered, I'm going to save it as a file and
go over it point by point.

It is appreciated.

Thanks again,

Jonathan

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Re: PS Kill File

2000-12-18 Thread Gary Hennigan
Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 PS Can'y I use procmail as well to send someting to /dev/null? I've read
 so much about that and for so long it would be nice...
 
 As in...
 
 # The Killing Files
 :0:
 * ^Subject.*UNIVERSITY
 /dev/null

Yep, nothin' wrong with that, although you generally don't have to
worry about locking /dev/null, which is what that : after the 0
means. You can leave it out, like:

:0
* ^Subject.*UNIVERSITY
/dev/null

Of course you'll want to be pretty careful with rules like this. If
you're not careful you might dump something of interest. Personally I
keep a separate file for Spam storage which I occasionally check and
clear. So my spam rule would be:

:0:
* ^Subject.*UNIVERSITY
Spam.spool

Gary



RE: VMWare -- Express or Workstation

2000-12-18 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
Okay, so I am answering my own question.  It seems that the Express version
only supports win95/98, but the workstation supports many other guest os
options.

 -Original Message-
 From: Brooks R. Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:42 AM
 To: Debian-User
 Subject: VMWare -- Express or Workstation


 Greetings,
   I was perusing vmware's site http://www.vmware.com, and I
 noticed the
 vmware Express for linux.  Does anyone have a clue on what is different
 between the Express and Workstation?  It seems that they both
 offer the same
 functionality.  Any thoughts?

 Thanks,

 Brooks


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Re: Which IMAP server to use

2000-12-18 Thread Juergen Fiedler
Thanks for the hint. I would much prefer to use a server that is secure.
Even as we speak, I am connected to my current IMAP from work. I'd rather
not be restricted to reading my private mail from home.
On the other hand, I like the fact that the UW IMAP uses the traditional
mailbox format. Cyrus doesn't do that, does it? Is there a way to access
cyrus' mail database with a POP server?

Thanks,
j

On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:49:44AM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
 Juergen Fiedler wrote:
  
  On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
  I installed it on my test machine, and it couldn't have been easier.
  Netscape is still bitching because I didn't create a site certificate
  yet, but it's working.
 
 i would block connections from the world to a UW imapd server. it is
 well known to be full of security holes(most of the known ones are
 patched however from what i gather on BUGTRAQ the whole design of the
 server isn't done with security in mind). or compile UW IMAP with the
 stackgaurd GCC compiler. if your imap server is on a private network
 then i guess there isn't much to worry about.
 
 i for one just recently switched from uw imapd to cyrus, performance
 increased by about 10 fold.
 
 nate
 
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Re: The Debian way (kernel)

2000-12-18 Thread Gary Hennigan
Ray Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm getting ready to go to kernel 2.2.18. I know there is a Debian
 way to do the kernel but damned if I can think of where I could find
 it. Could any of you please point me towards it and also anybody run
 into anything to be aware of with this one. I'm doing it mostly for
 the USB backports (think I may be getting some devices for xmas :))
 In any case any advice would be very cool. Thanks.

One suggestion first, get your email program to wrap your lines. While
gnus handles an approx. 400-character line-length article like yours,
other mail clients may not! Generally a 70 character line length is
considered good form.

As to your question, what you're looking for is the kernel-package
package. So
apt-get install kernel-package
cd /usr/share/doc/kernel-package
zcat README.gz|less

Good Luck!
Gary



apt-get cancel

2000-12-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello all
I have been using apt-get to install packages from the Internet. I prepared
to install some packages from the non-free section off the debian site and
the info told me that I was in the process of downloading 35mb. Since i am 
using a 56k
dial up access this was going to take a considerable period. I cancelled the
operation using C-c. I want to know how to cancel this in totality so that
when i am installing packages in the future apt-get does not tory to install
these other packages.
Thanks for your time
jm



The better ftp server for Debian...

2000-12-18 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro
Hi,

Could you recommend the best ftp server for my Linux-Debian box?

Thanks,

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Re: Low SBLive volume

2000-12-18 Thread Scott Patterson



Finally can hear sound, but with low volume and when I try to move the
control in the mixer the sound vanishes.

I have a similar problem. When I installed my SBLive, the volume is low in both
Linux and Windoze compared to my previously installed SB16. I can increase the
main volume to its maximum level and it's acceptable, but, it seems like I
shouldn't have to do that. I'm using the kernel 2.2.18pre21 module for sound.
Anyone else have a similar problem?

Scott





RE: The better ftp server for Debian...

2000-12-18 Thread Jason Holland
i use proftpd, its pretty sweet.  the config file syntax is a lot like
apache config files.  its stable, good performance, and more secure that
wu-ftpd i think.  just my personal $0.02.  later

Jason


 Hi,

 Could you recommend the best ftp server for my Linux-Debian box?

 Thanks,

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Re: apt-get cancel

2000-12-18 Thread Pollywog

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 00:47:44 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 hello all
  I have been using apt-get to install packages from the Internet. I prepared
  to install some packages from the non-free section off the debian site and
  the info told me that I was in the process of downloading 35mb. Since i am 
 using a 56k
  dial up access this was going to take a considerable period. I cancelled the
  operation using C-c. I want to know how to cancel this in totality so that
  when i am installing packages in the future apt-get does not tory to install
  these other packages.
  Thanks for your time

Have you tried writing a script that will only update the packages
you regularly want updated?
That way, you don't have to enter the same command (apt-get install
thispackage thatpackage thatotherpackage) with possibly many packages
in the list.

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RE: Low SBLive volume

2000-12-18 Thread Jason Holland
I did.  Until i used aumix to change the volume, and it fixed the problem.
No more low sound.  :)

Jason


 Finally can hear sound, but with low volume and when I try to move the
 control in the mixer the sound vanishes.

 I have a similar problem. When I installed my SBLive, the volume
 is low in both
 Linux and Windoze compared to my previously installed SB16. I can
 increase the
 main volume to its maximum level and it's acceptable, but, it seems like I
 shouldn't have to do that. I'm using the kernel 2.2.18pre21
 module for sound.
 Anyone else have a similar problem?

 Scott




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Re: Best entry level scanner USB/P for Potato?

2000-12-18 Thread Jonathan Gift
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:34:04AM +, Pedro Quaresma de Almeida wrote:
 
 Visit the SANE web-page

Ok, thanks.

 You have to go to kernel 2.2.18 to have USB support.

Ah, I'd heard rumors. Thanks for the confirmation.

Jonathan

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Re:Still no luck with modversions (compiling alsa)

2000-12-18 Thread Daniel King
I had the same error when compiling ALSA drivers.  I had to set 
the C_INCLUDE_PATH environment varible ( see info pages for gcc)
to have gcc use the kernel headers.  I typed the following commands.

./configure
C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/
export C_INCLUDE_PATH
make install

Daniel King


Original message from: Andrew Perrin
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 15 05:59:06 2000
Newsgroups: 
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 05:59:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: alsa and modutils
Fcc: sent-mail
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Message-ID: Pine.GSO.4.21.0012150557270.13548
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Well, thanks to all of you but none of this worked - I did the source
installs and still get the same issues:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/alsa-driver-0.5.10/kernel'
gcc   -DALSA_BUILD -D__KERNEL__ -O2  -DLINUX -Wall -Wstrict-
prototypes
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -I/usr/src/linux/include -I.. -
DEXPORT_SYMTAB
-c sound.c
In file included from sound.c:23:
../include/driver.h:66: linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [sound.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/alsa-driver-0.5.10/kernel'
make: *** [compile] Error 1

...include/driver.h does in fact include linux/modversions.h.  I tried
simply commenting out the include, but it appears another 
dependency does
the same thing - got the same error trivially further along.

I've found very little documentation about what modversions.h *is* or 
how
it is supposed to work. Can anyone shed some light on this file and 
how I
might get this to compile?

Using locate, I find modversions.h in
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.17/include/linux
so, in my just-enough-knowledge-to-be-dangerous mode I linked all 
the
files in above directory into .../alsa-driver-0.5.10/linux which bombed
completely.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Yes, this pops up with a particular Intel NIC driver also,
 and affects all debian past 2.2.16
 
 The simple key is to unpack source that is no longer unpacked
 by defaults.
 
 apt-get source kernel-headers-2.2.17
 
 You might need to do this first...
 
 apt-get install kernel-headers-2.2.17
 


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