procesador textos para consola

2001-06-09 Thread Rodrigo De la Vega
Hola
Estoy tratando de darle uso a unos 486 en los cuales es imposible 
correr X, la idea es que usuarios normales (a los que emacs o vim los haría 
vomitar) puedan ocuparlos para digitar, pero no me resigno a instalarles M$DOS 
pero por mas que he busco no encuentro algo como el WordPerfect5.1 pero para en 
Linux
Alguna idea?
gracias
Rodrigo



APMD

2001-06-09 Thread miguel

Saludos debianeros

 Soy novicio en Debian, he conseguido instalarlo
sin problemas en un portatil de 2º mano que tengo..
todo ha ido bien me pilla las PCMCIA del CDROM
externo , el modem/red ,etc... mi pregunta es :

?pero en que parte de la instalación activo en el
Kernel , el demonio APMD, de indicación
de carga de la bateria?¿..me lo instaló con todo
el soporte que lleva Debian de modulos PCMCIA
pero no me lo activa en el kernel..:-(

?¿me va a tocar reconfigurar el núcleo?¿...
?¿sabeis de otra solución?...



Re: Pregunta ...

2001-06-09 Thread Hue-Bond
Enrique Marcote Peña, sábado 09 de junio de 2001 a la(s) 00:35:59 +0200:

Totalmente de acuerdo, pero es que llevo algún tiempo siguiendo las
discusiones sobre profile, bash_profile...etc., y todavía no tengo nada claro
donde definir los alias para que me funcionen siempre y en todo
circunstancia.

 Lo comprendo,  yo tampoco  lo entendí muy  bien. En  un momento
 tras leer la página man 4 ó  5 veces seguidas me llegué a hacer una
 idea ;^) y lo solucioné con un .bash_profile así:

#!/bin/bash
. $HOME/.bashrc

 Y metiendo todo  en el .bashrc. Así tendrás todo  lo que pongas
 en  todas las  shells. Me  encuentro a  veces con  algún problemita
 porque algo  sólo tiene sentido en  consola o en X  (por ejemplo el
 keymap) y tuve que recurrir a algo tan poco elegante como:

if [ `tty|cut -d'/' -f3` != pts ]; then   # cargar keymap sólo en 
consola
  loadkeys --quiet keymap-full
fi

 Pero bueno, lo que es funcionar, funciona :^).


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servicios en Debian

2001-06-09 Thread miguel
Saludos:

 Como puedo visualizar los demonios que tiene corriendo mi Debian.
En Red Hat ..usaba setup .. y me dejaba configurar los servicios al
de arranque ,etc..
en Debian ...hay algo similar?¿

Gracias, de antemano.



Apm o lo que sea

2001-06-09 Thread Raul Benavente
Buenas
Parece que algo ha cambiado por que esto funcionaba perfectamente antes 
y ahora ha empezado a fallar, esto es lo que ocurre:
Hace algún tiempo actualicé el kernel a 2.4.4 y mas o menos a la vez 
actualice los paquetes que tenía medio viejos, el caso es que antes esto 
funcionaba normal y despues me ha dado algun problema, cuando se apaga se queda 
con power off. o se reinicia en vez de apagarse dependiendo de las opciones que 
tenga en la configuración del kernel, si solo fuera eso me daría igual por que 
darle al botón no me cuesta nada, al fin y al cabo eso es una pijadilla, pero 
la cosa falla también por otro lado, cuando lleva un rato sin actividad se 
produce un fundido del monitor al negro y deja de responder totalmente, como si 
se quedara seco y le robaran la vida.

Me pregunto si hay alguien más al que le pase lo mismo o algo parecido, 
para saber si es un problema genérico o solo mio.

He estado probando con las opciones de apm en la bios y en el kernel, 
reinstalando el apmd, pero nada.

Muchas gracias si alguien me ayuda, estoy un poco confundido, no se que 
es lo que falla esactamente ni por donde probar. Lo mismo nisiquiera es 
problema del apm.




Re: Dos redes, firewall y samba

2001-06-09 Thread MaX in the FaX
Alle ore 00:20, sabato 09 giugno 2001, Carlos López ha scritto:
 Pues no te has equivocado. Necesitas un servidor wins.
 Hace cosa de 9 meses me encontré con esta misma
 situación con la que te encuentras tú, solo que el
 software utilizado era diferente: HP-UX 10.0 con
 Checkpoint Firewall-1 y un servidor Windows NT Server
 Enterprise.

hola,

intenta en un winbug añadendo al file C:/windows/system/host la dirección de 
el servidor.

(no soy muy seguro de el path en win... es mucho tiempo que no lo veo)

ciao!
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Gdk-Imlib y autoconf

2001-06-09 Thread Christian García
Hola

Hace poco tiempo, compilaba programas con gdk-imlib añadiendo al configure.in 
una linea tal que  AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB(...). Con la versión 1.9.10-3 de Debian no 
sereconoce esta entrada. Creo que tampoco se podía con la versión 1.9.10 de 
ximian, que acabo de quitar.

¿Sabe alguien si este problema es de la librería, o de 
autoconf/automake/aclocal? Antes existía un fichero .m4 para aclocal donde se 
definía AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB, pero ahora no se encuentra.

He mirado los ficheros Changelog para ver si se mencionaba algo sobre esto, 
pero no he encontrado nada.

Muchas gracias



Re: Gdk-Imlib y autoconf [Solución]

2001-06-09 Thread Christian García
El Sat Jun  9 17:48:07 2001, Christian García escribió:
 Hola
 
 Hace poco tiempo, compilaba programas con gdk-imlib añadiendo al configure.in 
 una linea tal que  AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB(...). Con la versión 1.9.10-3 de Debian 
 no sereconoce esta entrada. Creo que tampoco se podía con la versión 1.9.10 
 de ximian, que acabo de quitar.
 
Acabo de encontrar la solución (creo). El fichero en cuestión es 
/usr/share/aclocal/imlib.m4, y se encuentra en el paquete imlib-dev. Yo estaba 
actualizando el paquete gdk-imlib-dev, pero se me quedaron los imlib de Ximian.

Creo que es la versión de Ximian la que no incluye ese fichero.



Re: Gdk-Imlib y autoconf

2001-06-09 Thread Rodrigo Moya
On 09 Jun 2001 17:48:07 +0200, Christian García wrote:
 Hola
 
 Hace poco tiempo, compilaba programas con gdk-imlib añadiendo al configure.in 
 una linea tal que  AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB(...). Con la versión 1.9.10-3 de Debian 
 no sereconoce esta entrada. Creo que tampoco se podía con la versión 1.9.10 
 de ximian, que acabo de quitar.
 
 ¿Sabe alguien si este problema es de la librería, o de 
 autoconf/automake/aclocal? Antes existía un fichero .m4 para aclocal donde se 
 definía AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB, pero ahora no se encuentra.
 
no estoy seguro, pero lo más probable es que se haya eliminado la macro m4
que hacía eso, pues gdk-imlib está obsoleta, y está siendo sustituida por
gdk-pixbuf, que es mucho mejor. No me extrañaría que se hubiera eliminado
para así forzar a la gente a que cambie a gdk-pixbuf cuanto antes.

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Re: procesador textos para consola

2001-06-09 Thread jose maria
El Sáb 09 Jun 2001 07:08, Rodrigo De la Vega escribió:
 Hola
   Estoy tratando de darle uso a unos 486 en los cuales es imposible
 correr X, la idea es que usuarios normales (a los que emacs o vim los
 haría vomitar) puedan ocuparlos para digitar, pero no me resigno a
 instalarles M$DOS pero por mas que he busco no encuentro algo como el
 WordPerfect5.1 pero para en Linux Alguna idea?
 gracias
 Rodrigo
joe es calcado al wordstar tecleando jstar tiene mas compatibilidad, de 
todas maneras yo utilizo los 486 de la siguiente manera, tengo un pentium 
celeron 266 con bastante ram donde tengo una distribucion suse completa, 
con nfs exporto / entero, luego los 486 tienen un disco duro de unos 100 
megas mas viejos que la polka, instalo una distribucion de estas de 
disketes que tenga nfs , una vez instalada vacio las particiones de los 
486 y en el fstab pongo las importaciones del celeron y a ejecutar lo que 
quieras. por supuesto si estan en red. un saludo jose maria
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Re: Calidad de impresión

2001-06-09 Thread Enrique Marcote Peña
Hola Santiago:

Con el magicfilter puedes definir varias impresoras, en realidad todas ellas 
serán tu Epson
400, pero cada definición se corresponderá con una de las resoluciones que 
desees.  Mi
printcap define tres resoluciones diferentes para la impresora, por defecto 
empleo la de
720dpi.

---/etc/printcap generado con 
magicfilterconfig---

#
# Copyright (c) 1983 Regents of the University of California.
# All rights reserved.
#
# Redistribution and use in source and binary forms are permitted
# provided that this notice is preserved and that due credit is given
# to the University of California at Berkeley. The name of the University
# may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
# software without specific prior written permission. This software
# is provided ``as is'' without express or implied warranty.
#
#   @(#)etc.printcap5.2 (Berkeley) 5/5/88
#
# This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig.
#
lp|epson720dpi|Epson Stylus Color a 720dpi:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson720dpi:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
epson360dpi|Epson Stylus Color a 360dpi:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson360dpi:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
epson1440dpi|Epson Stylus Color a 1440dpi:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epson1440dpi:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

-

Para imprimir con cada resolución tengo:

alias lpq1440=lpq -Pepson1440dpi
alias lpr1440=lpr -Pepson1440dpi
alias lpq720=lpq -Pepson720dpi
alias lpr720=lpr -Pepson720dpi
alias lpq360=lpq -Pepson360dpi
alias lpr360=lpr -Pepson360dpi

(Por cierto, estos son unos de los alias con los que tengo problemas, pues el 
gv no me los
conoce, probaré con lo que me acaba de sugerir David Serrano, gracias de nuevo 
David)

Un saludo y espero que te sirva de ayuda.

Quique




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 Hay alguna forma de bajar la calidad de impresión?
 Tengo una Epson 400 configurada con magicfilter.
 Para imprimir uso lpr archivo.
 Gracias, saludos.

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RE: procesador textos para consola

2001-06-09 Thread Carlos Martinez
 Hola
   Estoy tratando de darle uso a unos 486 en los cuales es
 imposible correr X, la idea es que usuarios normales (a los que
 emacs o vim los haría vomitar) puedan ocuparlos para digitar,
 pero no me resigno a instalarles M$DOS pero por mas que he busco
 no encuentro algo como el WordPerfect5.1 pero para en Linux
   Alguna idea?
 gracias

No sé si digo alguna tontería, pero ahí va la idea:
Enchufarlos en red con un servidor que corriera las aplicaciones y sacar el
display por los 486, que tendrían instalado un gestor muy sencillito y
ligero.
Si no tienes la posibilidad de un servidor, podrías (creo) correr sólo la
aplicación en un 486 y sacarla por otro, dividiendo así la carga de trabajo.
¿Se puede hacer eso?
Suerte,
Carlos
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Video en Debian.

2001-06-09 Thread Maximiliano Alonzo
Hola lista:
Mando esta pregunta que obviamente ya debe de haber sido respondida en
algún otro momento (sorry) ;)
El problema que tengo es que utilizando el programita SMPEG como ROOT 
puedo
ver los videos sin ningún problema; pero cuando me logueo como otro usuario
los videos se ven extremadamente lentos.
Este problema lo tuve al principio con la cuenta ROOT pero se soluciono
cuando habilite el UDMA del disco (no se si tendrá algo que ver!!).
Desde ya muchas gracias.

Maximiliano Alonzo.
San José de Mayo -Uruguay



Re: core? 500% OFF-TOPIC

2001-06-09 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:02:22 +
Fabiano Manoel de Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  Já ví várias vezes em meu sistema um arquivo chamado core. Estava
  programando agora no gcc quando, como resultado de uma falha no código, ele
  deveria gerar uma saída em um arquivo core para ser analisado com o gdb,
  porém isto não aconteceu. O que será que esta havendo de errado?!? Alguém
  tem idéia de como eu poderia gerar esta saída corretamente?!?
seu arquivo core não tá sendo gerado porque os limites do seu sistema
impedem que ele seja gerado... isso é uma configuração de ambiente...

tente fazer:

# ulimit -c 10

que seus cores serão gerados...

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Upgrade para unstable.

2001-06-09 Thread Marcelo Santana
Olá pessoal da lista!!

Bom, não tenho nehum intuito de gerar flame wars, e também sei que 
todo e qualquer risco na atualização deve ser assumido pelo usuário que se 
aventurar a fazer o processo upgrade, porém tenho o intuito de, se possível, 
poder ajudar futuramente como mais um usuario a enviar bug report's.
Queria uma ajuda dos usuários mais experientes que utilizam o 
unstable... Queria saber quais manuais, se é que isso existe,  o usuario Debian 
deve ter um melhor conhecimento, que indiquem os arquivos de log, como funciona 
o lance do postinst, entre outros que possamos usar como referências, parar ter 
um maior domínio na solução das falhas que ocorrem quando da atualização para 
unstable, pois como sabemos sempre ocorrem erros... 
Falo isto pelo fato de estar tendo problemas com a instalação das 
atualizações através do apt-get dist-upgrade após baixar todos os arquivos 
necessários, e então não queria aqui começar uma apologia aos erros encontrados 
durante o processo, nem encher o saco de vocês pedindo ajuda para cada erro que 
encontrar...
Bom, não sei se fui muito claro, pesso desculpa se falei besteira.

Agradeço antecipadamente.

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Re: Upgrade para unstable.

2001-06-09 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:09:03 -0300
Marcelo Santana [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

   Falo isto pelo fato de estar tendo problemas com a instalação das 
 atualizações
 através do apt-get dist-upgrade após baixar todos os arquivos necessários, e 
 então
 não queria aqui começar uma apologia aos erros encontrados durante o 
 processo, nem
 encher o saco de vocês pedindo ajuda para cada erro que encontrar...
   Bom, não sei se fui muito claro, pesso desculpa se falei besteira.
como você mesmo disse, não tem um manual sobre isso... eu coloquei alguma
coisa sobre resolução de erros no manual do apt, mas é pra usuário comum...

o negócio é na base do RTFM mesmo, aprenda tudo que puder do dpkg, do
apt e inclusive da estrutura de um pacote deb, dê uma olhada no 
diretório /var/lib/dpkg/info porque lá ficam os arquivos que mais quebram
você vai ter de editar alguns na mão de vez enquanto pra evitar os 
erros e poder configurar o pacote por isso aprenda um pouco de shell
script...

dpkg --help, dpkg-deb --help, apt-get --help, man dpkg, man apt-get, 
man dpkg-deb, info dpkg =)

tudo que você aprender sobre esses sistemas é uma boa e no final pode
até sair desse upgrade sabendo fazer um .deb =)

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Re: Compilacao de kernel

2001-06-09 Thread Antonio M. Moreiras

Tenho duas sugestões:

1. Tente pegar os fontes do kernel diretamente do kernel.org, não use
os pacotes da debian... Não sei se há algum problema com eles ou não, os
pacotes da RedHat constumam gerar erros desse tipo, por isso criei o hábito
de ir direto à fonte... em todo caso, alguns colegas aqui da empresa que
usam debian há mais tempo que eu, fazem a mesma coisa... 
Como será impossível (acho...) usar o make-kpkg, siga a sequência:
baixe o pacote e descompacte-o
make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules (caso use modulos)
make modules_install (idem)
copie o kernel gerado para /boot, edite e rode o lilo

2. Verifique seu hardware. Muitas vezes a máquina que tem problemas pode
aparentar funcionamento normal com as aplicações do dia a dia, mas quando é
necessário rodar uma aplicação mais pesada, como a compilação do kernel, 
o problema se manifesta.
   Costumo usar a compilação do kernel do linux como teste em máquinas
recém montadas ou que receberam manutenção. O tipo de mensagem de erro que
vc está recebendo é o mesmo tipo que encontro quando tenho máquinas
instáveis, com problemas na motherboard, memória ou processador...
   Como outro colega já sugeriu, se sua máquina estiver com overclock,
configure-a para operação normal. Verifique se as opções de velocidade de
memória da Bios estão de acordo com seu hardware, faça um teste carregando
as opções default, ou fail safe, caso seu setup permita e então tente
novamente compilar o kernel.
   Outro teste que costumo fazer em máq. recém montadas é a instalação do
Windows NT server ou 2000 server. Como na compilação do kernel do Linux,
sempre que há problemas, a máquina trava, ou são geradas mensagens de erro.
Na dúvida se o seu problema é de hardware ou de software, vc poderia fazer o
teste, instale o NT (num outro hd?); se conseguir concluir a instalação sem
problemas o hardware está OK. Programas de teste, como pccheck, norton,
troubleshooter, etc, nem sempre pegam esses erros, mesmo a instalação de
outros sistemas como w95 ou 98 pode ocorrer normalmente.


Assim eu vou pirar. De qualquer forma que eu tente nao da certo. Peguei
o pacote kernel-source-2.2.17 de outro CD debian potato mas tive o mesmo
problema (tambem tentei fazer as coisas dentrode um link simbolico de
nome /usr/src/linux apontado para /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17), apos
alguns minutos de compilacao atraves do make-kpkg, tenho a mensagem:
   
make[1]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.17'
make: *** [stamp-build] Error 2


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placa sb16 pnp - nao pega

2001-06-09 Thread Celso Andrade
Olá lista,

venho acompanhando há algum tempo a lista e aprendido bastante, sou novo
no debian e acredito ter encontrado a distribuição ideal.
mas, vou direto ao ponto, estou tentando configurar minha placa de som
sound blaster16 isa pnp. No win, no conectiva e mandrake ela funciona
legal. Mas no debian não consegui ainda. Usei o pnpdump e isapnp mas não
acha. Havia um conflito com o modem, mas já resolvi jampeando.
Como posso fazê-la funcionar então?

ela está na irq 5 dma 1 e 5.

Só falta isso para funcionar na minha máquina.

Obrigado.
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Re: placa sb16 pnp - nao pega

2001-06-09 Thread Rodrigo Morais Araujo
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Celso Andrade wrote:

 Olá lista,

 venho acompanhando há algum tempo a lista e aprendido bastante, sou novo
 no debian e acredito ter encontrado a distribuição ideal.

É assim que se fala...

 mas, vou direto ao ponto, estou tentando configurar minha placa de som
 sound blaster16 isa pnp. No win, no conectiva e mandrake ela funciona
 legal. Mas no debian não consegui ainda. Usei o pnpdump e isapnp mas não
 acha. Havia um conflito com o modem, mas já resolvi jampeando.
 Como posso fazê-la funcionar então?

 ela está na irq 5 dma 1 e 5.


Tenho uma placa dessa tb... uso a opção da bios dizendo que o OS não é
plug-and-play para não ter que me preocupar com o isapnp, depois só é
carregar os modulos com os io's irq's e dma's corretamente que fica tudo
beleza, no meu caso utilizo os seguintes modulos e opções:

sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5
opl3 io=0x388

 Só falta isso para funcionar na minha máquina.

 Obrigado.
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Re: OT: Plucker with Potato

2001-06-09 Thread ktb
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:08:24AM -0400, Barry Mathieu wrote:
 I probably committed a major Debian Faux-Pax by editing my source file
 to temporarily point at the testing release to allow me to install
 plucker.  That is, with testing (rather than stable) in my source file
 I,
 
 apt-get update
 apt-get install plucker


Some binaries from testing can be installed as you have found out.  You
probably already know this but you should point your sources.list back
to stable and rerun apt-get update before installing anything else.  

In the future you might if you want to try installing a package off
testing or unstable you could down-load the package and run -
# dpkg -i package.deb
to install.

 To my surprise, no conflicts were indicated and plucker installed.
 
 I've even plucked a few sites, and wow, this is a useful package for me.
 
 Unfortunately, no images are being displayed on my pilot. I believe this
 may be due to the older version of netpbm in potato. Also, Zlib
 compression is missing from the viewer.
 
 I would like to obtain the functionality of viewing images on my pilot
 and Zlib compression. I'm hoping someone can offer a suggestion on how
 to overcome this dilemma.
 
 I've considered attempting to compile from sources. However, I am
 definitely a bit of a neophyte and it takes me so long to get things
 working, I worry about breaking them. For instance, I definitely fear
 screwing up the installed package list.

I really haven't used plucker so I can't advise you as to what you need
to make it work but -
http://packages.debian.org/testing/otherosfs/plucker.html
shows what packages are needed.

If you need updated packages off of testing or unstable you can often 
compile the source by pointing your src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list to 
testing or unstable then run -
# apt-get update
# apt-get -b source package_name

This will build a .deb from source.
hth,
kent

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Xfree86 a.out installation question

2001-06-09 Thread Margarete Hans
I want to install Xfree86 4.1.0 on my laptop.
I tried running the Xinstall.sh with the -check option to find out
witch version I need. Here is the output:

Checking what OS you're running...
uname reports 'Linux' version '2.2.19pre17', architecture 'i486'.
Xinstall.sh: file: command not found
Object format is 'a.out'. Xinstall,sh: strings: command not found

Linux a.out is no longer supported

What does this mean? That my xinstall.sh file is corrupted (I have
already tried downloading the .bin version)
That I have to install something else first?
Or could I simply ignore this and try to install anyways, and in that
case, what version (Linux-ix86-glibc21 or Linux-ix86-glibc22)?

Besides that, what are the advantages/disadvantages of GNOME/KDE?





Re: Help; apt-get trashed system, how to recover

2001-06-09 Thread Gregory Guthrie

Bravo!!
Thanks.
Gregory
At 09:50 PM 06/08/2001 -0400, Paul Wright wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:53:14 CDT,
Gregory wrote:
 Help.
 
 
 I went to fetch a new package, and my system decided it wanted to
get 108 
 MB of updates. It failed on a bunch of them, I tried again, and
again, and 
 then a force (-f) option as suggested by apt-get, to no avail.
 
 Perl seems to have kludged itself..
 
 The details follow, how do I recover?!
 
Try apt-get --fix-missing install perl-base perl, if that
doesn't work 
try apt-get --fix-missing install perl-base perl. One
of those should 
work. YMMV.
-ptw

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ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-09 Thread Ben Harvey
Hello
I just set up abcde/cdparanoia/lame to rip some CDs, the problem is that some 
of them turn out with very low volume. 
what can I do about this?
I certainly don't want to use normalize: I want to increase the volume 
uniformly across a whole cd, not just the quiet parts.
Are there any mp3 editing tools that would let me change frame headers 
(global_gain?) or would this cause clipping when I play them? This is what 
happened when I cranked up the --scale option for lame.
or is this approach fundamentally wrong.
help!

I am using: 
abcde v1.9.9 
cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
LAME version 3.87 (beta 1, Jun  8 2001)
-- 



Re: Mounting an Audio CD

2001-06-09 Thread David Nusinow
On Friday 08 June 2001 04:40 am, Michael Powell wrote:
 Is there a special command to mount an audio CD?  I am having trouble
 getting any of the CD-Players to find the CD-ROM drive (they say it is not
 mounted), and have not been able to find the proper file system type to
 mount it with.

 I am thinking I may possibly need a symbolic link to '/cdrom' or
 '/dev/cdrom' to simply fix the problem, but wanted to verify that there was
 nothing else that I needed to do.  My CD-ROM is usually mounted as
 '/cdimage' as that is what my Libranet/Debian distro looks for in some of
 its scripts.  Also, it is device '/dev/hdd'.  These are the reasons that I
 was thinking a symbolic link might fix it.

 Thanks!
 Michael


We literally just answered this about a day or two ago. Check the archives.

- David Nusinow
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Best way to setup a Soundblaster Live card

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Martinovic
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:43:15PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote:
 Don't forget to add your users to group audio, it's a common newbie
trap

As a newbie, can someone tell me how this is done? I have compiled
2.4.5 with OSS support and now just need to add the users to this
group

Cheers,

Rob



Re: Best way to setup a Soundblaster Live card

2001-06-09 Thread Andrew Sione Taumoefolau
Rob,

 As a newbie, can someone tell me how this is done? I have compiled
 2.4.5 with OSS support and now just need to add the users to this
 group

Go root, edit /etc/group, find the audio line, and add the users you'd
like to have access to sound. So, the untouched line'll look something
like this:

audio:x:29:

and you want to change it so it looks like this:

audio:x:29:usera,userb,userc

And there you go! :)

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program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread rich
Howdy all,

I've had a problem for a while in which my potato sytem seems to perform
relatively sluggishly - most noticably on Wordperfect. Example: While
WP8 under W98, I can hold the page down key  for 5 seconds, and when I
let go, the scroll immediately stops. Doing the same under linux,
however, would result in a minute-long scroll through several dozen
pages after the key was let go. Is there a keyboard buffer that I can
adjust or something, or does the problem lie elsewhere, or is linux WP8
just not as well-designed?

Thanks in advance,

Rico



Re: Best way to setup a Soundblaster Live card

2001-06-09 Thread Jeremiah H. Savage
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 03:36:52PM +1000, Robert Martinovic wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:43:15PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote:
  Don't forget to add your users to group audio, it's a common newbie
 trap
 
 As a newbie, can someone tell me how this is done? I have compiled
 2.4.5 with OSS support and now just need to add the users to this
 group

# adduser [user] audio

also helpful is
# adduser [user] disk
so that a user can user the CDROM after
ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/hd[x]

-- 
Jeremiah



Re: ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-09 Thread Jason Pepas
it sounds like you dont quite understand normalize

I think what you say you dont want to do is compression.  Not data
compression, but audio compression.  If you have ever listened to your
favorite song on the radio, and you expect to hear a quite part and then
a loud part, but the song mysteriously remains at a constant volume the
entire time over the radio, then you are familiar with audio
compression.

normalizing, on the other hand, does not just amplify the quite parts to
bring them to the same level as the loud parts.  Rather, it amplifies
everything by an equal amount.  It takes the loudest part of the song
and amplifies it as much as possible without clipping, and then
amplifies the rest of the song by the same amount.

in short, it sounds like normalization is exactly what you want.

jason
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- Original Message -
From: Ben Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 12:23 AM
Subject: ripping quiet CDs


 Hello
 I just set up abcde/cdparanoia/lame to rip some CDs, the problem is
that some
 of them turn out with very low volume.
 what can I do about this?
 I certainly don't want to use normalize: I want to increase the volume
 uniformly across a whole cd, not just the quiet parts.
 Are there any mp3 editing tools that would let me change frame headers
 (global_gain?) or would this cause clipping when I play them? This is
what
 happened when I cranked up the --scale option for lame.
 or is this approach fundamentally wrong.
 help!

 I am using:
 abcde v1.9.9
 cdparanoia III release 9.8 (March 23, 2001)
 LAME version 3.87 (beta 1, Jun  8 2001)
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Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread Erik Steffl
rich wrote:
 
 Howdy all,
 
 I've had a problem for a while in which my potato sytem seems to perform
 relatively sluggishly - most noticably on Wordperfect. Example: While
 WP8 under W98, I can hold the page down key  for 5 seconds, and when I
 let go, the scroll immediately stops. Doing the same under linux,
 however, would result in a minute-long scroll through several dozen
 pages after the key was let go. Is there a keyboard buffer that I can
 adjust or something, or does the problem lie elsewhere, or is linux WP8
 just not as well-designed?

  you might want to check the x server settings - the acceleration
should be turned on.

  other than that it might be just poorly implemented application - is
it sluggish for one app only or for everything? or poorly accelerated
x...

erik



Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:10:01AM -0500, rich wrote:
 Howdy all,
 
 I've had a problem for a while in which my potato sytem seems to perform
 relatively sluggishly - most noticably on Wordperfect. Example: While
 WP8 under W98, I can hold the page down key  for 5 seconds, and when I
 let go, the scroll immediately stops. Doing the same under linux,
 however, would result in a minute-long scroll through several dozen
 pages after the key was let go. Is there a keyboard buffer that I can
 adjust or something, or does the problem lie elsewhere, or is linux WP8
 just not as well-designed?

AFAIK, (and I could be wrong) WP8 for linux is basically the Windows
Wordperfect emulated through Wine, so naturally it would run more
sluggish than a native application on either OS.

-Rob



Re: ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-09 Thread Ben Harvey
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:48:35AM -0500, Jason Pepas wrote:
 
 in short, it sounds like normalization is exactly what you want.
 
OK fair enough. so that means I can filter a .WAV through normalize before 
compression - with a little trial  error.
any ripper recommendations?  abcde looks good (I like the name too ;) but 
it doesn't seem to allow me to add this sort of filter.
do I lose much  quality if I mp3wavnormalizemp3 ?

Thanks
-- 



Re: ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
On Saturday 09 June 2001 09:08, Ben Harvey wrote:
 do I lose much  quality if I mp3wavnormalizemp3 ?

Depends on the bitrate and encoder quality of the first encoding. You lose 
quality by reencoding alone, and if you normalize it before reencoding you 
theoretically lose a little more quality. Try for yourself.



Strange drive issue when using Win98 and Debian

2001-06-09 Thread Alex Suzuki
Hi there,

I'm using Debian woody almost exclusively on my box, but I still
have a Win98 Partition, primarly to read those wacky .doc files
with crazy formatting that StarOffice just can't read right.
The thing is, Windows used to access 3 drives when it was
installed.
C: which is /dev/hda1, which is a FAT32 drive, this actually
the only FAT32 partition left at the moment
D: which was /dev/hdb1, which is now exclusively used by Linux,
formatted as ext2 and
E: which was /dev/hda7, which is now also used exclusively
under Linux, mounted as /home

The problem is, when I boot Win98, it still shows me those
two drives, despite that it obviously shouldn't be able to
make sense of them, since they are ext2. The drives appear
with strange labels like *[EMAIL PROTECTED], just random gibberish.
When I choose it in Explorer, it just displays some strange
and directories which ARE not there.
My question: How do I tell Windows that it is no longer
allowed to access or even see those drives?

Thanks
Alex
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Re: ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-09 Thread Erik Steffl
Ben Harvey wrote:
 
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:48:35AM -0500, Jason Pepas wrote:
 
  in short, it sounds like normalization is exactly what you want.
 
 OK fair enough. so that means I can filter a .WAV through normalize before
 compression - with a little trial  error.
 any ripper recommendations?  abcde looks good (I like the name too ;) but
 it doesn't seem to allow me to add this sort of filter.
 do I lose much  quality if I mp3wavnormalizemp3 ?

  I like grip.

  not sure about abcde nut in grip you can set the wav filter, I guess
that's what you want. but even if it's not you can simply set-up the
ripper to be a shell script that does rip+normalize instead of just rip.
I guess you can do something similar in abcde...

  definitely don't go wav-mp3-wav-mp3 (there's no reason and you're
loosing quality)

erik



Re: DRI - Voodoo3 - confusion

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
On Saturday 09 June 2001 00:03, Michael P. Soulier wrote:

 It's in both. X provides the DRI API, but to make use of it, you need a
 module for your video card. I'm using kernel 2.4.4, with a Voodoo3. The
 tdfx module is included with kernel 2.4.4. So, running at 16 bpp, I have 3D
 accel. You need to have the tdfx module loaded in the kernel (or compiled
 in for that matter) before you can use DRI. You'll also need libglide3.

 ii  libglide3  2001.01.26-1   Graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based
 cards

Ok, now I see things a bit clearer. 

I think (and hope) this is also possible with a 2.2. kernel. I found 
CONFIG_DRM and CONFIG_DRM_TDFX in the character devices section of the kernel 
configuration. Is that the same or equivalent what you have in your 2.4 
kernel? I did not compile these options in my 2.2.19 kernel at the time 
because I didn't know what it was.

And what about the device3dfx-source package? Is that needed for hardware 
accelleration or DRI? From the Makefile it appears that it compiles a module 
called 3dfx.o. What's that?



Xemacs Debian packaging systems

2001-06-09 Thread Glyn Millington

Xemacs has it's own packaging system for upgrading component packages.
Does using it compromise the debian system and foul up any future
apt-gettery I might wish to try?

I feel sure there must be a Debian way on this - any suggestions?

Glyn
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Grub: Does it allow for modularized kernel fs

2001-06-09 Thread Otto Wyss
Does anyone know if the fs in Grub allows the kernel to load his
necessary fs as modules? I.e. if Grub contains a an ext2 fs, can the
kernel load modules from this file system even if the ext2 fs isn't
compiled into the kernel?

Or since the fs in Grub probably also needs the corresponding drivers
for the drive (i.e. SCSI), does the kernel still need the same drivers
built in?

O. Wyss



Re: talk does not work after ?

2001-06-09 Thread Moritz Schulte
Balbir Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But I am unable to talk even locally on my own pc. Talk hangs after
 stating [Checking for invitation on caller's machine].

Is there something useful logged in /var/log/daemon.log, while trying
to talk?

moritz
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Re: DRI - Voodoo3 - confusion

2001-06-09 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Michael P. Soulier wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:52:06PM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote:
  I want DRI for my Voodoo3 card. But I'm confused.
 
  Somewhere I read DRI is included in XFree86 4.0.1.
  Somewhere else I read it's in the 2.4. kernel.
  And in /var/log/XFree.0.log I found the line:
 
  (EE) TDFX(0): DRIScreenInit failed, disabling DRI.
 
  (This is with 16bpp)
 
  Do I have DRI already and it just doesn't work?
 
  The reason why I want it is I want to use mplayer, and mplayer gives an 
  error
  message when I run it. The FAQ of mplayer says I should update my driver if 
  I
  get this error message. I don't know what driver they mean, but I found this
  http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/10464/2001/5/250/5777677/
  That guy got DRI 0.6. But there is no DRI 0.6 I could download.
 
  Now, where is DRI?

 It's in both. X provides the DRI API, but to make use of it, you need a
 module for your video card. I'm using kernel 2.4.4, with a Voodoo3. The tdfx
 module is included with kernel 2.4.4. So, running at 16 bpp, I have 3D accel.
 You need to have the tdfx module loaded in the kernel (or compiled in for that
 matter) before you can use DRI. You'll also need libglide3.

 ii  libglide3  2001.01.26-1   Graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards

 Works great for me.


With mplayer? I think he's referring to the Xvideo Extension ouput of mplayer.
To use the HW acceleration the card need to support the YUY2 packed and YV12
planar pixel format, and with similar configuration here (kernel 2.4.5 XFree86
4.0.3-4 and same libglide3), the output of xvinfo is:

X-Video Extension version 2.2
screen #0
  Adaptor #0: 3dfx Accelerated Video Engine
number of ports: 1
port base: 74
operations supported: PutImage
supported visuals:
  depth 16, visualID 0x23

   ...

  depth 16, visualID 0x32
no port attributes defined
maximum XvImage size: 1024 x 0
Number of image formats: 2
  id: 0x32315659 (YV12)
guid: 59563132--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)
  id: 0x30323449 (I420)
guid: 49343230--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
bits per pixel: 12
number of planes: 3
type: YUV (planar)

so not YUY2 packed...

Any hints?


Andrea





dselect and cdrom

2001-06-09 Thread Haim Ashkenazi
Hi

I've just installed potato from the reiserfs boot diskette (switched
from mandrake). everything seems very nice but I'm having a problem with
dselect. it doesn't install from cdrom. if I run 'apt-get install
gimp-manual' it will install it from the cd, but if I select it from
dselect it asks me to insert binary_cd_1 and then it fetches the package 
from the web. in the Access menu of dselect, I don't have multi_cd section. 
only nfs, floppy, ftp and APT Acquisition [file,http,ftp].
am I doing something wrong, or maybe I should install something?

thanks

Haim



Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
facilities of Powerpoint?

-- 
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For electronic books (Homeomythology and The Assassins of Alamut), skeptical 
essays, and over 130 book reviews, go to http://www.acampbell.org.uk/

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that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed, in view of the silliness of the
majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish
than sensible.  [Bertrand Russell]



Re: Strange drive issue when using Win98 and Debian

2001-06-09 Thread ktb
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I'm using Debian woody almost exclusively on my box, but I still
 have a Win98 Partition, primarly to read those wacky .doc files
 with crazy formatting that StarOffice just can't read right.
 The thing is, Windows used to access 3 drives when it was
 installed.
 C: which is /dev/hda1, which is a FAT32 drive, this actually
 the only FAT32 partition left at the moment
 D: which was /dev/hdb1, which is now exclusively used by Linux,
 formatted as ext2 and
 E: which was /dev/hda7, which is now also used exclusively
 under Linux, mounted as /home
 
 The problem is, when I boot Win98, it still shows me those
 two drives, despite that it obviously shouldn't be able to
 make sense of them, since they are ext2. The drives appear
 with strange labels like *[EMAIL PROTECTED], just random gibberish.
 When I choose it in Explorer, it just displays some strange
 and directories which ARE not there.
 My question: How do I tell Windows that it is no longer
 allowed to access or even see those drives?

Are D: and E: mapped drives?
kent

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Re: Best way to setup a Soundblaster Live card

2001-06-09 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Jeremiah H. Savage wrote:

[...]

 also helpful is
 # adduser [user] disk
 so that a user can user the CDROM after
 ln -s /dev/cdrom /dev/hd[x]

Adding a user to the disk group is a bad thing, try looking in the mail
archive for the full details (the user could fill/trash the system HD or other
device with the same group), better changing the CDROM owing to audio or
create a new group like cdrom...


Andrea



Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread ktb
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
 facilities of Powerpoint?
 
 -- 
 Anthony Campbell - running Gnu/Debian Linux (Windows-free zone).
 For electronic books (Homeomythology and The Assassins of Alamut), skeptical 
 essays, and over 130 book reviews, go to http://www.acampbell.org.uk/
 
 The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatsoever
 that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed, in view of the silliness of the
 majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish
 than sensible.  [Bertrand Russell]

Staroffice I think has a similar facility.  You should be able to drum
up a lot of info by searching for powerpoint in the list archives -
http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/Debian-Linux/199/0/
http://lists.debian.org/search.html
kent

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Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
On Saturday 09 June 2001 14:04, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
 facilities of Powerpoint?

Staroffice has a presentation maker called Impress. I read a review. They 
said it's pretty good. But I tried to load a jpg (just to try if it can read 
jpg) and it crashed and it wont start again. It's stability is really 
impressive, I must say ;)
Then there's Kpresenter, which I haven't tried. 



Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread mdevin
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
 facilities of Powerpoint?

I have not tried either of these, but you could check these:

magicpoint - It is still in development though and not as
fully functional.

Star Office offers something similar.

HTH
Mark.



Re: DRI - Voodoo3 - confusion

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
On Saturday 09 June 2001 13:02, Andrea Vettorello wrote:

 With mplayer? I think he's referring to the Xvideo Extension ouput of
 mplayer. To use the HW acceleration the card need to support the YUY2
 packed and YV12 planar pixel format, and with similar configuration here
 (kernel 2.4.5 XFree86 4.0.3-4 and same libglide3), the output of xvinfo is:

 X-Video Extension version 2.2
 screen #0
   Adaptor #0: 3dfx Accelerated Video Engine
 number of ports: 1
 port base: 74
 operations supported: PutImage
 supported visuals:
   depth 16, visualID 0x23

...

   depth 16, visualID 0x32
 no port attributes defined
 maximum XvImage size: 1024 x 0
 Number of image formats: 2
   id: 0x32315659 (YV12)
 guid: 59563132--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
 bits per pixel: 12
 number of planes: 3
 type: YUV (planar)
   id: 0x30323449 (I420)
 guid: 49343230--0010-8000-00aa00389b71
 bits per pixel: 12
 number of planes: 3
 type: YUV (planar)

 so not YUY2 packed...

 Any hints?


 Andrea

I get the same output. I think the problem is that YUV2 is not 
enabled/included in the Debian version of XFree86. On 
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/10464/2001/5/250/5777677/
I read:
Xfree-4.0.3 does not include YUY2 support. Then I had to get a new
version of the DRI driver on http://dri.sourceforge.net.

But on that website threre is nothing to download. They just say:
The latest DRI drivers are included with XFree86 4.1.0.
Does that mean I'll have to wait until XFree86 4.1.0 is packaged for Debian. 
Will YUV2 support be enabled then? Or do I have to compile XFree86 4.1.0? 



Re: Console Terminal Colors

2001-06-09 Thread Christopher W. Aiken
Thanks for the info and help.

setterm -background black -foreground green -save

was what I was looking for.

-=[cwa]=-
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:)Christopher Aiken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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:) my non-GUI consoles to a black background with a green
:) foreground.  It is much easier on the eyes for me.  Can
:) this be done in Debian Linux, or for that matter, any
:) flavor of Linux?
:)
:)$ setterm -background black -foreground green
:)
:)Use -store to save the settings permanently (e.g. when you logout).
:)
:)
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Re: switching from lilo to grub

2001-06-09 Thread D-Man
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:22:10AM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
| Noah Meyerhans wrote:
| 
|   PS: grub is definatelly a great bootloader, I think I'll never go back
|   to lilo.
|  
|  Same here, except on my machines with an XFS based root filesystem.
|  Grub does not yet support XFS, so I had to resort to LILO.  I looked in
|  to writing XFS support for grub, but I am not familiar with filesystem
|  coding to feel entirely comfortable.
| 
| Uhh, have you tried to load lilo from grub via chainloader?  That sounds
| like fun.  :)  Of course, you would need to run lilo anyway, whenever

I haven't tried that, but I have chainloaded grub from itself -- just
for fun trying out the various commands. :-)

| you compile a new kernel, so one of grub's advantages -- recompiling
| kernels without re-running grub -- would be lost.  Too bad!  But you
| have the nicely colored boot menu for sure.  :)
| 
|  One complaint I do have about grub is the license.  Grub itself is
|  GPLed, but it contains code ripped from incompatible (license-wise)
|  source.  That's not good, and I think somebody with experience in such
|  matters really needs to examine it.
| 
| Hmm, this really sucks!  Makes we wonder, I always thought that grub was
| *the* *official* GNU bootloader.  

This could just be a rumour ... this is the first I have heard it, and
I certainly hope it isn't true.  (I'm not accusing Noah in any way,
just hoping)  I definitely don't want to see grub go through some
nasty licensing wars.  They're even worse than editor or language
wars!

-D



Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 11:47:10PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
| rich wrote:
|  
|  Howdy all,
|  
|  I've had a problem for a while in which my potato sytem seems to perform
|  relatively sluggishly - most noticably on Wordperfect. Example: While
|  WP8 under W98, I can hold the page down key  for 5 seconds, and when I
|  let go, the scroll immediately stops. Doing the same under linux,
|  however, would result in a minute-long scroll through several dozen
|  pages after the key was let go. Is there a keyboard buffer that I can
|  adjust or something, or does the problem lie elsewhere, or is linux WP8
|  just not as well-designed?
| 
|   you might want to check the x server settings - the acceleration
| should be turned on.

Maybe ... I just got my SiS 6326 video card configured and it only
works with the no_accel option :-(.  Some things, like gnumeric,
scroll just fine.  gvim, however, is quite sluggish when scrolling.  I
have access to a 'doze box with XWin32 so I tried gvim xhosted to the
'doze box and it behaved just fine.

Maybe X4 will work better...

-D



Re: Grub: Does it allow for modularized kernel fs

2001-06-09 Thread D-Man
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:22:20PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote:
| Does anyone know if the fs in Grub allows the kernel to load his
| necessary fs as modules? I.e. if Grub contains a an ext2 fs, can the
| kernel load modules from this file system even if the ext2 fs isn't
| compiled into the kernel?
| 
| Or since the fs in Grub probably also needs the corresponding drivers
| for the drive (i.e. SCSI), does the kernel still need the same drivers
| built in?

What exactly is your setup and what are you trying to do?  Concrete
questions are often clearer than abstract ones, and thus eaiser to
answer.

Grub and the kernel are 2 separate things.  Grub must have support for
a particular filesystem in order for it to read the stage2, menu.lst
and kernel from.  Grub doesn't care what components the kernel has
builtin or as modules.  If the kernel is on a SCSI disk, then grub
needs to be able to read the SCSI disk to load the kernel.  I don't
know if grub can do this now, or what the issues are because I have
never had a SCSI disk.  If you want your kernel to be able to read
files from a SCSI disk, then it must have the necessary drivers
available -- either comiled in or as modules on a disk that can be
read without the module already loaded (you don't want a Catch 22
where you need the SCSI driver to read the disk inorder to load the
SCSI driver in order to read ...).

I'm sure it would be just fine if you put the kernel and its modules
on an IDE disk and told grub to load the kernel from there and that
the root partition is on the SCSI disk.

Maybe someone else with more SCSI experience can provide better
information, or maybe the grub docs will tell
(http://www.gnu.org/software/grub).

HTH,
-D



Re: emacs

2001-06-09 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Thursday, June 7, Andrew D Dixon did write:

 HI All,
 Does anyone know how to change the keybindings in emacs?  Specifically
 I'd like to make my Backspace key delete the character before the cursor
 (seems like a natural thing to me) instead of what it's doing now (which
 is being wierd).

First, which version of emacs?  FSF emacs or XEmacs?

Second, what exactly is backspace doing now?

Third, are you running under X or a console?

My setup (XEmacs 21.1, under X) can be reproduced by adding the following
to your .emacs:

(global-set-key [BS] 'delete-backward-char)
(global-set-key [DEL] 'backward-or-forward-delete-char)
(setq delete-key-deletes-forward nil)
;; Note that these should be defaults under Debian.

And set your keyboard up so that the plastic bump labeled `backspace'
generates the BackSpace keysym, and the plastic bump labeled `delete'
generates the Delete keysym.

Then, in XEmacs, backspace will delete the character just before point, and
delete will delete the character just after point.

Richard



Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread Matthias Richter
Anthony Campbell wrote:

 Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
 facilities of Powerpoint?

I've just completed a presentation using pdflatex (texpower, hyperref,
ifmslides) \ldots so if you're already very familiar with (pdf)latex you
might also use this cross-plattform way of presenting things nicely ;-)

Matthias


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Kernel-Package, Kernel-Patches, lots of questions

2001-06-09 Thread Marc Haber
Hi,

kernel-package supports kernel patches, as I learned short time ago.
But IMO, it lacks the documentation for this.

If i understand correctly:
- patches go into /usr/src/kernel-patches/$arch/$version/apply.
- If PATCH_THE_KERNEL is set, patches are automatically applied on 
make-kpkg.

But here are some questions:
(1)
How are patches handled that create new config options in the kernel
config? When make-kpkg runs, kernel config usually is already finished
- how am I supposed to activate the new options?

(2)
How can I choose which patches are to be applied? Are all patches
applied without me having a chance to choose?

(3)
Can I see in the created .deb which patches have been applied?

(4)
Can patches be put elsewhere than in /usr/src/kernel-patches?

(5)
Where is the documentation about module-hooks mentioned in
kernel-package(5)?

Greetings
Marc

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Re: Strange drive issue when using Win98 and Debian

2001-06-09 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 07:05:58AM -0500, ktb wrote:
 Are D: and E: mapped drives?
 kent

Kent, I solved the problem. I just had to rewrite the partition
table to the disk. It seemed that the entries in the partition
table still seemed to be FAT32 for the drives, but they were
formatted ext2. I used cfdisk to write the table down.
It worked.

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Re: vnc icewm and no permissions

2001-06-09 Thread Roderick Cummings





From: Roderick Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: vnc icewm and no permissions
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 22:30:55 -0400

I was using vnc on a small box to run a gui program, but I have managed to
mangle it rather badly. Anyway, I got the idea to remove the menu's,
toolbars, etc in icewm so you can't open any programs while logged in via
xvncviewer. I did this my removing the menu package, and then going into
/usr/lib/menu, default and /etc/menu and removing them. Then I went into
/etc/X11/icewm and deleted the files menu, preferences, programs and
toolbar.

The idea was to make it harder for someone who has gotten into vnc, to get
to a shell, although I'm sure there are lots of things an X expert could 
do,

but at least someone would have to think a little before owning me.

And this worked fine for quite a while. But one day (today infact) I was
using the vnc session, and at some point noticed a way to right-click a
bring up an xterm. When I did this, it killed icewm, and left me with just 
a

xterm but no window manager, somekind of failsafe login, i think. So then I
found the file, /etc/menu-methodes/icewm. It had several lines mentioning
xterm, so I deleted the 3 lines:

x11=  prog \ $title \  ifempty($icon,-) ifnempty($icon,$icon)  
$command\n
 text=   prog \ $title\  ifempty($icon,-) ifnempty($icon,$icon) 
xterm -T \ $title \ -e  $command\n
 wm= restart \ $title\  ifempty($icon,-) ifnempty($icon,$icon)
  $command\n

I restarted vnc, and got nothing but the xterm, and no window manager. I've
--purged and reinstalled all of the packages, vnc, ice, xbase, xcommon, 
etc.

All of the files I edited or deleted seem to be back the way they were
before. However, when starting vnc, all I get is X(vnc), no window manager,
no xterm, nothing. I set icewm and other xprogs to start in ~/.xsession and
even in /etc/X11/xsession, and it has no effect. if I try to launch an app
from a commandline (by just ssh'ing into the box, I get connection refused
by server. Checking the xsession errors, anything I try to start up in
.xsession or /etc/X11/xsessiom, xintrc, etc and they all also exit with
connection refused by server.

Everything is running under the same login, and DISPLAY is set correctly,
etc, but I'm getting connection refused for everything. I even put an xhost
+ in xsession and it still doesn't make any difference.

What else can I look at? All of these files were purged and replaced, with
the same stable packages I had used when I originally installed everything.

Thanks.

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OK something odd is going on, now everything works fine when I login from 
work. But when I ssh from my home systems (the box in question is one of my 
homesystems) any xterms launched are not allowed access to the vnc X server. 
But when I ssh in from elsewhere it works fine. Before I screwed with 
things, it worked fine from home and elsewhere there have been no changes to 
my other homesystems.


Ah, correction, any of my homesystems NOT running X work correctly. From 
console only, without an X server running locally I can launch apps on to 
the vnc Xserver (DISPLAY is set right both ways). Is ssh causing a problem? 
There is a environmental variable called XAUTHORITY that points to a file in 
/tmp. Is this the source of the problem? But in either case, this was not a 
problem previously.


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Can't get Mozilla 0.9.1 to run -- Missing library?

2001-06-09 Thread Debian User
Hey all,

   Recently wiped my box and decided to do a clean reinstall now that I've
had some experience with Debian (repartitioned, minimal install, upgrade to
woody, etc.) and I'm still working out some kinks.

  I'm trying to get the latest build of Mozilla (0.9.1) to run and I'm 
running into this error:


#/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla# ./mozilla

./run-mozilla.sh ./mozilla-bin
MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla
  
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla:/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla/plugins
 
LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla:/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla/components
   SHLIB_PATH=/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla
  LIBPATH=/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla
   ADDON_PATH=/usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla
  MOZ_PROGRAM=./mozilla-bin
  MOZ_TOOLKIT=
moz_debug=0
 moz_debugger=
./mozilla-bin: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared object 
file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory


./mozilla-bin IS present.  Here is the relevant portion of the  contents of 
the /usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla directory:

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1720 Jan 23 09:34 mozilla
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root49648 Jun  7 15:16 mozilla-bin
^^^
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 2851 Jun  7 15:07 mozilla-config
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   150036 Jun  7 15:16 mozilla-installer-bin

If it matters, I am running the AfterStep window manager over X (i.e. I'm not
running Gnome, KDE, CDE, etc.)

Here is a list of the packages I've installed:

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  adduser3.36   Add and remove users and groups to resp. fro
ii  ae 962-30 Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen edito
ii  afterstep  1.8.8-7A window manager with the NEXTSTEP look and 
ii  apache 1.3.19-1   Versatile, high-performance HTTP server
ii  apache-common  1.3.19-1   Support files for all Apache webservers
ii  apt0.5.3  Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  apt-utils  0.5.3  APT utility programs
ii  at 3.1.8-10   Delayed job execution and batch processing
ii  autoconf   2.13-27automatic configure script builder
ii  automake   1.4-8  A tool for generating GNU Standards-complian
ii  base-config0.69.3 Debian base configuration package
ii  base-files 2.2.8  Debian base system miscellaneous files
ii  base-passwd3.2.1  Debian Base System Password/Group Files
ii  bash   2.05-4 The GNU Bourne Again SHell
ii  bc 1.06-6 The GNU bc arbitrary precision calculator la
ii  binutils   2.11.90.0.7-2  The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti
ii  bison  1.28-8 A parser generator that is compatible with Y
ii  bsdmainutils   5.20010126-4   More utilities from FreeBSD.
ii  bsdutils   2.11b-4Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite.
ii  build-essentia 4  Informational list of build-essential packag
ii  console-common 0.7Basic infrastructure for text console config
ii  console-data   1999.08.29-21  Keymaps, fonts, charset maps, fallback table
ii  console-tools  0.2.3-23   Linux console and font utilities.
ii  console-tools- 0.2.3-23   Shared libraries for Linux console and font 
ii  cpio   2.4.2-36   GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of 
ii  cpp2.95.3-7   The GNU C preprocessor.
ii  cpp-2.95   2.95.4-0.01042 The GNU C preprocessor.
ii  cpp-3.03.0-0pre010403 The GNU C preprocessor.
ii  cron   3.0pl1-69  management of regular background processing
ii  cvs1.11-1 Concurrent Versions System
ii  cvs-buildpacka 3.29   Debian package scripts for CVS source trees.
ii  cweb   3.63-3 Knuth's  Levy's C/C++ programming system.
ii  dc 1.06-6 The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polis
ii  debconf0.9.41 Debian configuration management system
rc  debconf-tiny   0.2.80.17  Tiny subset of debconf for the base system
ii  debconf-utils  0.9.41 Debconf utilities
ii  debhelper  3.0.15 helper programs for debian/rules
ii  debian-guide   1.0.1  Text from: Debian GNU/Linux: Guide to Instal
ii  debian-policy  3.5.4.0Debian Policy Manual and related documents
ii  debianutils1.15   Miscellaneous utilities specific to Debian.
ii  debmake3.6.9  Debianizing Tool and automated binary genera
ii  developers-ref 2.8.6 

Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:55:21AM -0500, Rob VanFleet wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:10:01AM -0500, rich wrote:
  Howdy all,
  
  I've had a problem for a while in which my potato sytem seems to perform
  relatively sluggishly - most noticably on Wordperfect. Example: While
  WP8 under W98, I can hold the page down key  for 5 seconds, and when I
  let go, the scroll immediately stops. Doing the same under linux,
  however, would result in a minute-long scroll through several dozen
  pages after the key was let go. Is there a keyboard buffer that I can
  adjust or something, or does the problem lie elsewhere, or is linux WP8
  just not as well-designed?
 
 AFAIK, (and I could be wrong) WP8 for linux is basically the Windows
 Wordperfect emulated through Wine, so naturally it would run more
 sluggish than a native application on either OS.

You are wrong --- WP8 was natively written for Linux.  It's WP9, aka
WP2000, that's run under wine, and wow is it horrible.

However, because your name has a good ring to it, I forgive you for
being wrong.

Rob

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Re: Can't get Mozilla 0.9.1 to run -- Missing library?

2001-06-09 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 04:05:38AM -0500, Debian User wrote:
 
   I'm trying to get the latest build of Mozilla (0.9.1) to run and I'm 
 running into this error:

mozilla is a right pain in the ass to do manually, wait a few days for
kitame to update his packages and there shall be powerpc builds at
penguinppc. 

 ./mozilla-bin: error while loading shared libraries: cannot open shared 
 object file: cannot load shared object file: No such file or directory
 
 
 ./mozilla-bin IS present.  Here is the relevant portion of the  contents of 
 the /usr/local/bin/mozilla0.9.1/mozilla directory:

its not mozilla-bin its bitching about, its ld.so bitching that it
can't locate a library.  

[spam deleted]
 I simulated an install of the Woody Mozilla package 
 (apt-get -s install mozilla) but the only package that needed to be installed
 was mozilla, so I know, as far as the Debian Woody package of Mozilla goes, 
 I should be fine.

the woody mozilla package is rediculously out of date, i recommend
installing my 0.9 packages and wait a few days for them to get updated
to 0.9.1.  

 Any suggestions would be appreciated!

see above

deb http://penguinppc.org/~eb/mozilla ./

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Re: ripping quiet CDs

2001-06-09 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:26:15AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
 
   I like grip.
 
   not sure about abcde nut in grip you can set the wav filter, I guess
 that's what you want. but even if it's not you can simply set-up the
 ripper to be a shell script that does rip+normalize instead of just rip.
 I guess you can do something similar in abcde...

I'm doing this myself in grip right now. The manpage says that the default
normalize setting is 0.25. Do you use anything else?

Mike

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Re: DRI - Voodoo3 - confusion

2001-06-09 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 11:32:45AM +0200, Robert Voigt wrote:
 
 Ok, now I see things a bit clearer. 
 
 I think (and hope) this is also possible with a 2.2. kernel. I found 
 CONFIG_DRM and CONFIG_DRM_TDFX in the character devices section of the kernel 
 configuration. Is that the same or equivalent what you have in your 2.4 
 kernel? I did not compile these options in my 2.2.19 kernel at the time 
 because I didn't know what it was.
 
 And what about the device3dfx-source package? Is that needed for hardware 
 accelleration or DRI? From the Makefile it appears that it compiles a module 
 called 3dfx.o. What's that?

I never did get it working in the 2.2 kernel. I found all the
documentation confusing as hell. But, I recall reading that it was done via a
3dfx device that needed to be created on the system.

Oh wait, here it is. With X4, apparently the 3dfx device is not necessary.
See here.

http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/DRIbeginner.html

But if you're running XFree 3.3.X, then you need the 3dfx device. The
details are apparently at

http://www.linuxvoodoo.com/

Mike

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Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 09 Jun 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
  facilities of Powerpoint?
 
 I have not tried either of these, but you could check these:
 
 magicpoint - It is still in development though and not as
 fully functional.
 
 Star Office offers something similar.
 
 HTH
 Mark.
 
 

Thanks to everyone who replied to this. I downloaded Magicpoint and it
seems to be working reasonably well so far.

Anthony


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Software solutions for cabinetmakers and woodworkers??

2001-06-09 Thread vordoo



Hi all,

I'mlooking for Linux software like Solid-Pro 
byCabinet Vision (M$ windows).
Software solutions for cabinetmakers and 
woodworkers.
Any comment will be appreciated.

thanks,
Jeff




Re: Software solutions for cabinetmakers and woodworkers??

2001-06-09 Thread ktb
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 06:02:52PM +0300, vordoo wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm looking for Linux software like Solid-Pro by Cabinet Vision (M$ windows).
 Software solutions for cabinetmakers and woodworkers.
 Any comment will be appreciated.

I'm not familiar with the type of program you looking for but have you
searched http://freshmeat.net/ yet?  You probably have but just wanted
to make sure.
kent

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Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira
Hi Matthias,
could you send your presentation (or something more simple and less
confidential for you) for serving as template for me?
Much thanks
Em Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:30:41 +0200, Matthias Richter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Anthony Campbell wrote:
 
  Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
  facilities of Powerpoint?
 
 I've just completed a presentation using pdflatex (texpower,
 hyperref,
 ifmslides) \ldots so if you're already very familiar with (pdf)latex
 you
 might also use this cross-plattform way of presenting things nicely
 ;-)
 
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Window control not working (sawfish)

2001-06-09 Thread Ross Boylan
For at least the last few days, the little control in the upper left
of my windows, the one that usually brings up a menu with choices like
moving the window up, down, right, left... does nothing at all when I
click on it.

I am running sawfish and GNOME on basically a woody system.  I haven't
used Ximian in quite awhile, but retain their sawfish package:
sawfish  0.36-helix3  
sawfish-gnome0.36-helix3  
xfree86-common   4.0.3-3 
gnome-core   1.4.0.2-1

This is odd--it seems to be a sawfish problem, but sawfish hasn't
changed.

Any ideas?



Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread Alex Suzuki
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 08:02:40AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote:
 You are wrong --- WP8 was natively written for Linux.  It's WP9, aka
 WP2000, that's run under wine, and wow is it horrible.

Does anybody know how the Corel Office Suite (WP2000) compares to
StarOffice in terms of performance  compatbility to M$-Word format?
I have StarOffice installed here, and hey, I mean I've got a
750 MhZ Duron processor, a quick harddrive and 512 Megs of RAM,
and I still wouldn't recommend it!

Thanks
Alex
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Re: Can't get Mozilla 0.9.1 to run -- Missing library?

2001-06-09 Thread jim_harritt
Ethan Benson said:
  
  
  the woody mozilla package is rediculously out of date, i recommend
  installing my 0.9 packages and wait a few days for them to get updated
  to 0.9.1. =20
  
   Any suggestions would be appreciated!
  
  see above
  
  deb http://penguinppc.org/~eb/mozilla ./
  

Any sugestions for i386 packages?  I'm in the same boat.

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SOLVED (was: [OT] windows networking issue)

2001-06-09 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:40:45AM -0500, ktb wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 05:02:53PM -0700, Mike Egglestone wrote:
   what about duplexing? Is your nic set for half or full?
 
 There may be another way but I usually nab a utility program from the
 manufacturer and run a diagnostic on the card.  I've mostly worked with
 older 3Coms.  The utility fits on a bootable windows floppy so it
 doesn't matter which operating system your running.

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 09:38:08AM +1000, Ian Perry wrote:
 You've probably looked at this already...but...
[...]
 Last resort, try turning off Plug and Pray (Play) and setting the IRQ for
 the card manually in the bios and try again.

These two tidbits solved my problem, which was a mis-detected Ethernet
card.  I got the diagnostic tool from the 3com site (the etherdisk,
or something; it's now two floppies worth of self-extracting archive),
and noticed that one contained drivers.  I removed the driver I had, rebooted
to disable plugpray, and windows said, You have new hardware, but I
don't know what it is.  Directing it to the drivers extracted from
the disk revealed two that were compatible with the card, one PnP and
one legacy; I chose the second.  Ping works.  Putty works.  IP Masq
works.  

This is what I wanted.  Thanks to all who replied.

This is a distressingly appropriate randomly generated signature.

Rob

-- 
If you find a solution and become attached to it, the solution may become
your next problem.



Re: List new packages after an apt-get update

2001-06-09 Thread USM Bish
console-apt (capt) does just that. It has three packet
dividers:

a) Updated packages
b) Installed packages (newer version available)
c) Non-installed packages

USM Bish

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 03:12:11PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
 Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 JH AFAIK, deity and aptitude do not single out newly available packages.
 JH Dselect, however, will do everything you want.
 
 aptitude does call out newly available packages, though it considers a 
 package 'new' until the new list is explicitly cleared (with 'f').  My 
 usage with aptitude is generally: update available packages ('u');
 expand newly available packages category ('['); install anything I
 want out of that list ('+'); clear new list ('f'); expand updated
 packages category ('['); examine, resolve conflicts, go ('g').
 
 As far as I'm concerned, though, dselect is a perfectly usable tool; I 
 mostly use aptitude these days out of peer pressure.  :-)
 
 David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/




Re: bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable

2001-06-09 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 11:06:07PM +0200, Imre Vida ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 one more bit of info:
 I can ftp to the machine.
 This works absolutely fine.
 Funny.

Resources come in several flavors.  I'd suspect process table or open
files.  Note that some daemons run without spawning new processes, at
least to an extent.  Not sure that ftp is one of them, but it might be.

I'd run an 'lsof' or strace my failed command to get finer resolution on
the actual errors.  This assumes you can get access to the box in the
first place

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KDE font problem

2001-06-09 Thread Anthony Fox
Hello,

I have a strange problem with KDE.  I have been trying to set my fonts
in the KDE Control Center.  I can set all the fonts correctly except
for the Fixed Width font.  When I click Choose... for the Fixed
Width font, KDE crashes and restarts X.  Has anyone noticed this
problem?  Has anyone fixed this problem?

Thanks,
Anthony



[no subject]

2001-06-09 Thread Fernando Romero



hola: soy usuario nuevo de Debian y queria saber si soporta 
una placa de video voodoo 45000 dfx, y para cuando va a salir la version estable 
del Wody.
gracias


problems with cin.getline scanf or others

2001-06-09 Thread Sergio E. Schvezov
hi, i'm trying 2 do some home work with linux and i can't because i need
to input a string with spaces and it doesn't work, here's a short thing
as an example:

#include iostream.h

int main ()
{
int i;
char words[30];
cin  i;
cin.getline(words, sizeof(words));
cout  words  endl;
cout  i;
}

the output of this would be after compilation:

$ ./test
343


343

so i am not able to input that text, on the other hand if i had:

#include iostream.h

int main ()
{
int i;
char words[30], awords[30];
cin  i;
cin.getline(words, sizeof(words));
cin.getline(awords, sizeof(awords));
cout  words  endl;
cout  awords  endl;
}

i can do an input for both getlines and the output would be as expected.
I'dlike 2 add that the same happens with scanf or gets.

i'm running sid with a compiled 2.4.3 kernel 
TIA



Re: Upgrade Path From Potato :-(

2001-06-09 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 06/08/01 17:02:57 -0700, Jeremiah H. Savage wrote:
 From my experience of upgrading from Potato, I've found it's best to do a
 couple of 'apt-get install [foo]' before doing the whole 'dist-upgrade.' The
 first foo I install is 'dpkg' (fewer segfaults later on that way), then 'apt'.
 Upgrading these two packages will also force a 'libc6' upgrade. Then you want
 to make sure 'perl5.6' is installed. After that, I usually go for the full
 upgrade.
 
Thanks for the tips. I decided to just reinstall and follow your
advice. I figured it would be the least painless thing to do, plus I
would feel more secure knowing that everything was in order from the
start. So far so good. I'm now ready to install X. 

  Here's a question. What's the better release to move to, woody or sid?
 
 depends on how much excitment you want in your debian experience:)

LOL

Thanks again for your help. 

Mark



Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98

2001-06-09 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 06:07:25PM +0200, Alex Suzuki wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 08:02:40AM -0400, Rob Mahurin wrote:
  You are wrong --- WP8 was natively written for Linux.  It's WP9, aka
  WP2000, that's run under wine, and wow is it horrible.
 
 Does anybody know how the Corel Office Suite (WP2000) compares to
 StarOffice in terms of performance  compatbility to M$-Word format?
 I have StarOffice installed here, and hey, I mean I've got a
 750 MhZ Duron processor, a quick harddrive and 512 Megs of RAM,
 and I still wouldn't recommend it!
I guess WP2000 isn't much better, since it uses wine to run, it's
essentially still a windows program. The windows version isn't very
fast in native windows...

The (wine) linux port of Corel PhotoPaint isn't very fast either, and
I don't think WP2000 will be much faster... The UI is a bit sluggish.
Last time I tried exporting to word from wordperfect, it only crashed
;). The Word 2000 Wordperfect import filter works quite nice for me,
though the WP2000 export filter should be better then the W2000
import, according some computer magazines...

For me, the performance of StarOffice, apart from the startup time,
isn't that bad, using a 750 mhz Duron, 256 Mb ram and a rather slow
harddrive.

The StarOffice Word export works ok, though images are a bit streched,
and the position  stuff is fucked up, so I usually have to re-insert
the images in Word...
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netscape4.5

2001-06-09 Thread jean jacques moscovitz


comment trouver netscape 4.5 qui est mieux pour mol que le 6tel 0143250211DR MOSCOVITZ2 RUE MABILLONPARIS 6ememerci


Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread Matthias Richter
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote on Sat Jun 09, 2001 at 12:35:37PM:
   could you send your presentation (or something more simple and less
 confidential for you) for serving as template for me?

Many examples are already in the packages I had mentioned and these are
commented much better than my presentation is (and they are in english,
not in german)... so I'd suggest you to start reading right there:

http://lrb.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/TeXPower/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/supported/ifmslide/
http://www.tug.org/applications/hyperref/

regards,
Matthias


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Re: two questions on emacs under Mutt

2001-06-09 Thread Tiarnan O Corrain
  On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 05:29:26PM +, Vittorio wrote:
   2) Is that possible to configure emacs to wrap lines at, say, 72 char?

For accents put
(set-language-environment Latin-1)

in .emacs.

To wrap text mode lines at 72, try
(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)
in .emacs.

Try getting post.el for some email editing additions to emacs.

If you want to run emacs as a client for mail-mode (rather than
loading an additional emacs to write messages), start the emacs
server in .emacs with
(server-start)
and set mutt's editor as emacsclient.

Note that if you don't already have an emacs running, mutt will
hang with a waiting for emacs message.

Cheers

Tiarnan

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Re: Configuring gnus

2001-06-09 Thread Debian User

On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:45, Johann Spies wrote:
5. What is the difference between semi-gnus and gnus?

I have also decided to try gnus (for first time).  Have looked for
replies to #5 but did not see one.  Currently I'm using RMAIL with
mailcrypt and semi.  Gnus can install without affecting RMAIL but
semi-gnus conflicts with flim1.13 (needed by semi).

With the conservative route (install gnus in order to keep using RMAIL
for a while), will gnus give normal MIME ability?  Or would I need to
install semi-gnus to be able to use the MIME functionality that semi
provides?

-RjC



Re: Anything similar to Powerpoint?

2001-06-09 Thread John
On Saturday 09 June 2001 07:04, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 Is there anything for Linux that provides at least some of the
 facilities of Powerpoint?

Try Kpresenter. looks pretty good.



Installation problems

2001-06-09 Thread Philippe Clérié
I have done several Debian installations before and this is the
first time I've seen this one.

After installing the base system and rebooting from the hard disk
everything looks fine until inetd has started. Then I get the
following lines:

/bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: no such file or directory
/bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap no such file or directory

repeated 10 times, then

INIT: ld 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

And after a while it does it again and again.

I went through the installation again. And just in case there was a
disk problem I repartionned and reformatted the hard disk. No
problems there, but the same thing happened.

tty2 and tty3 appear to be fully functional.

Any clues would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Philippe Clérié ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



dpkg problems

2001-06-09 Thread Chris



dpkg error(1) status override
exit
How to fix cause nothing will download with it this 
way
Thanks for any help 
given!


Re: talk does not work after...? [solved]

2001-06-09 Thread Balbir Thomas
 Balbir Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  But I am unable to talk even locally on my own pc. Talk hangs after
  stating [Checking for invitation on caller's machine].
 
 Is there something useful logged in /var/log/daemon.log, while trying
 to talk?
 
   moritz

Thank you for the tip (I did not know /var/log/daemon.log was the place to look
- so much for a newbie :-). I solved the problem as follows :

/var/log/daemon.log show the following :

Jun  8 20:09:18 mandelbrot in.ntalkd[2744]: connect from mandelbrot
Jun  8 20:09:18 mandelbrot in.ntalkd[2744]: error: cannot execute /usr/sbin/in.
ntalkd: No such file or directory

and there is indeed no in.ntalkd file in /usr/sbin ( wonder why it was not 
installed ?) 

The relavent lines from /etc/inetd.conf are :

talkdgram   udp waitnobody.tty  /usr/sbin/tcpd  
/usr/sbin/in.talkd
ntalk   dgram   udp waitnobody.tty  /usr/sbin/tcpd  
/usr/sbin/in.ntalkd

So by looking at ktalkd documentation I tried changing this to :

talk   dgram   udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/kotalkd
ntalk  dgram   udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/ktalkd

And it all worked.

b thomas



Re: [OT] Minimum CPU speed for playing DIVX avis?

2001-06-09 Thread Francois Gouget
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 I got mplayer (http://mplayer.sourceforge.net) working very nicely, only
 that CPU utilization is constantly at 100% (~ 92% user, 8% system) and
 sound is very broken after 10 seconds playing.  The video is fine
 though.
 
 I have a 333MHz Celeron with MMX, use X 3.3.6 from woody, and have a
 very shitty 4MB PCI graphic card.

   Don't worry about your processor, it's fast enough for an 810kbps
DivX. Here's what you should do:

 * Upgrade to XFree 4
   This is the most important item: get Xv support!

 * Check that your sound card is not causing you trouble.
   I have a P3-600 (with no Xv support unfortunately), but even
when the CPU load is 20% the video is choppy. If I use the '-nosound'
option the choppyness disappears.

 * If the above is not enough upgrade your graphics card. Choose a
graphics card that hits it well in Xv mode with XFree, i.e. the graphics
card can do YUV transformation and scaling and whatever else, and all
this is supported by XFree. I have no idea which ones do.

 * Finally upgrade your processor if all else failed but you probably
won't get to that unless you play videos with much higher bit rates.

   Here's some numbers to 'prove' my claims. A friend of mine
introduced me to mplayer. Our test DivX is a 729kbps 592x288  24bpp
25.01 fps movie.
   On his box, a K6-2 233MHz with an ATI Rage, it plays in fullscreen
(-fs) (1280x1024x24) with slightly less than 50% CPU utilization (35%
mplayer, 10% XFree). Scaling had almost no effect on the CPU usage.
   On my PII 333MHz with a Permedia2 graphics card (1600x1200x16) and
XFree 3.3.6 (no Xv) it would not play without skipping regularly. With
XFree 4 in x11/shm mode it's better but CPU gives: 50% mplayer and 30%
XFree.
   Now, with xv it's much better: 45-50% mplayer and 20% XFree. And with
-xy 2 scaling it's just XFree that takes more CPU, about 35%.

   So eventhough I have a faster CPU I just cannot play movies like on
his box. Probably it's possible to make up for the graphics card by
going to a much faster processor but it does not seem like a good
solution.

   (If you have an ATI card, look for project Gatos, I'm told they have
XFree drivers for all ATI graphics cards)

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laptop hangs on Alt+Tab

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
I have a Toshiba Satellite 2595CDT and sometimes when I press Alt+Tab to 
switch between windows in KDE it hangs. The window list just stays there 
after I let go of Alt+Tab. 
Sometimes I'm lucky and I can still switch to the console and reboot safely, 
but most of those times all buttons and the mouse are frozen and I can only 
press reset.
I don't have this problem on my 2 desktop machines which run the same version 
of KDE and KDM, and I had this problem on the laptop with previous versions 
of KDE too. So I don't think it's a KDE problem.
Has anyone had the same problem or can anyone tell me where to search?



Re: KDE font problem

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
On Saturday 09 June 2001 19:00, Anthony Fox wrote:
 Hello,

 I have a strange problem with KDE.  I have been trying to set my fonts
 in the KDE Control Center.  I can set all the fonts correctly except
 for the Fixed Width font.  When I click Choose... for the Fixed
 Width font, KDE crashes and restarts X.  Has anyone noticed this
 problem?  Has anyone fixed this problem?

No, but there's a debian-kde-list which is more appropriate for this. I was 
amazed too about how many mailing lists they have, one for every tiny aspect 
of debian.



Re: Grub: Does it allow for modularized kernel fs

2001-06-09 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Otto Wyss wrote:
 
 Does anyone know if the fs in Grub allows the kernel to load his
 necessary fs as modules? I.e. if Grub contains a an ext2 fs, can the
 kernel load modules from this file system even if the ext2 fs isn't
 compiled into the kernel?
 
 Or since the fs in Grub probably also needs the corresponding drivers
 for the drive (i.e. SCSI), does the kernel still need the same drivers
 built in?

Both the kernel and grub don't care about each other, in fact, both
don't no a thing about the other end [1].  So, yes, you still need
compiled-in kernel support for both the root fs and the disk type this
fs is on.  And, if you want to use other filesystems or disk types after
booting the kernel, you either need kernel support compiled-in or as a
module.

Ciao,
Viktor

[1]  This is not entirely true, since grub recognizes the Linux kernel
as such and boots it in a proper fashion.
-- 
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WWW: http://www.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~rosenfel/



Re: laptop hangs on Alt+Tab

2001-06-09 Thread Vivek Dasmohapatra
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Robert Voigt wrote:

[cut]
 press reset.
 I don't have this problem on my 2 desktop machines which run the same version 
 of KDE and KDM, and I had this problem on the laptop with previous versions 
 of KDE too. So I don't think it's a KDE problem.
[cut]

Were these all KDE 2.x versions? People have reported that there were
problems w. KDE 2.x on laptops, esp. ones where the laptop was in a power
saving mode which involved slowing the CPU.

-- 
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Bed, where is thy victory...
   -- Insomnia? Me?




Re: dpkg problems

2001-06-09 Thread Shaul Karl
Can you describe the full context of what you are trying to do? 
What were your previous input? 
---BeginMessage---



dpkg error(1) status override
exit
How to fix cause nothing will download with it this 
way
Thanks for any help 
given!
---End Message---

Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me?
Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
  (Ethics Of The Fathers 1:14)



Re: XF86Setup problem

2001-06-09 Thread Jeroen Valcke
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 04:15:19PM +, Nick wrote:
 I assume you're using server ver. 4.x
 try apt-get install xserver-XFree86 then install the client - apt-get 
 install xbase-clients / xclients-base ??
 do xf86config.. your RIVA TNT2 card will be listed there.

Actually the xbase-clients package is installed. I also found the driver
you mention it is the 362th entry in the database RIVATNT2. But I'm having
trouble configurating it.
On another note I'm having trouble figuring out which version of X I'm
running. Can somebody explain the following contradiction

Tomsk:~# X -version
XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System

Tomsk:~# dpkg -l xfree86-common
...
ii  xfree86-common  4.0.3-4 X Window System (XFree86) 
infrastructure





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Re: XF86Setup problem

2001-06-09 Thread Jeroen Valcke
On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 01:48:21PM +1000, Joel Mayes wrote:
 if you installed this with apt-get install xserver-sgva and try to
 configure X again it should work, You probably want the RIVATNT2 driver.

The xserver-svga package is installed.
On another note now. I'm having trouble figuring out what kind of XFree
version I'm running. I'm a confused by this contradiction

Tomsk:~# X -version
XFree86 Version 3.3.6 / X Window System

Tomsk:~# dpkg -l xfree86-common
...
ii  xfree86-common  4.0.3-4 X Window System (XFree86)
infrastructure

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Re: laptop hangs on Alt+Tab

2001-06-09 Thread Robert Voigt
On Saturday 09 June 2001 21:48, Vivek Dasmohapatra wrote:
 Were these all KDE 2.x versions? People have reported that there were
 problems w. KDE 2.x on laptops, esp. ones where the laptop was in a power
 saving mode which involved slowing the CPU.

Yes, KDE 2. 
First I put Mandrake 7.2 on it, which had a pre release of KDE 2.
Then Debian with KDE 2.0.1.
Then upgraded to 2.1.1.
All the same.

The power saving is a good idea. IIRC I did not have this problem with KDE 
2.0.1 before I installed Toshutils. But I always run it on full CPU speed. 
But sometimes I caught it switching the CPU speed to low, which is probably a 
bug in Toshutils. Maybe that leads to the solution. I'll keep an eye on it.



Re: Installation problems

2001-06-09 Thread Shaul Karl
 I have done several Debian installations before and this is the
 first time I've seen this one.
 
 After installing the base system and rebooting from the hard disk
 everything looks fine until inetd has started. Then I get the
 following lines:
 
 /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: no such file or directory
 /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap no such file or directory
 
 repeated 10 times, then
 
 INIT: ld 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 
 And after a while it does it again and again.
 
 I went through the installation again. And just in case there was a
 disk problem I repartionned and reformatted the hard disk. No
 problems there, but the same thing happened.
 
 tty2 and tty3 appear to be fully functional.
 
 Any clues would be appreciated.
 
 Best regards,
 Philippe Clérié ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 


According to packages.debian.org, testing and unstable have /usr/sbin/termwrap 
but not /sbin/termwrap. This, of course, doesn't explain why you didn't get 
the same problem before but it might give you a starting point.
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Re: Installation problems

2001-06-09 Thread John Galt
On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Philippe Clérié wrote:

I have done several Debian installations before and this is the
first time I've seen this one.

After installing the base system and rebooting from the hard disk
everything looks fine until inetd has started. Then I get the
following lines:

/bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: no such file or directory
/bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap no such file or directory

I ran across this problem a while ago.  What is happening is you have the
degenerate boot-floppies inittab.  If you're comfortable enough with
Debian that you can hand install from this point, there's an
/etc/inittab.real that you just put in place of /etc/inittab and get tty1
back.  I think that it's been fixed in newer boot-floppies (at least I've
never seen it again).

repeated 10 times, then

INIT: ld 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

And after a while it does it again and again.

I went through the installation again. And just in case there was a
disk problem I repartionned and reformatted the hard disk. No
problems there, but the same thing happened.

tty2 and tty3 appear to be fully functional.

Any clues would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Philippe Clérié ([EMAIL PROTECTED])




-- 
There is no problem so great that it cannot be solved with suitable
application of High Explosives.

Who is John Galt?  [EMAIL PROTECTED], that's who!



Re: Installation problems

2001-06-09 Thread Philippe Clérié
I should have mentionned that I am doing this install from a CDROM
set of Potato, r0. I have been using that CD set for several months
now and this has never cropped up. Weird!!

I can't find a termwrap on any of the systems I have access to right
now (3) all with updated potato installation. A search on Debian.org
reveals nothing of significance.

Best regards,
Philippe Clérié ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


- Original Message -
From: Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Philippe Cl ri [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, 9 June, 2001 15:20
Subject: Re: Installation problems


  I have done several Debian installations before and this is the
  first time I've seen this one.
 
  After installing the base system and rebooting from the hard
disk
  everything looks fine until inetd has started. Then I get the
  following lines:
 
  /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap: cannot execute: no such file or
directory
  /bin/sh: /sbin/termwrap no such file or directory
 
  repeated 10 times, then
 
  INIT: ld 1 respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
 
  And after a while it does it again and again.
 
  I went through the installation again. And just in case there
was a
  disk problem I repartionned and reformatted the hard disk. No
  problems there, but the same thing happened.
 
  tty2 and tty3 appear to be fully functional.
 
  Any clues would be appreciated.
 
  Best regards,
  Philippe Clérié ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 


 According to packages.debian.org, testing and unstable have
/usr/sbin/termwrap
 but not /sbin/termwrap. This, of course, doesn't explain why you
didn't get
 the same problem before but it might give you a starting point.
 --

 Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hillel used to say: If I am not for myself who will be for me?
 Yet, if I am for myself only, what am I? And if not now, when?
   (Ethics Of The Fathers
1:14)






Re: Installation problems

2001-06-09 Thread Philippe Clérié
Thanks all. I switched the CDROM set and I'm back to normal. But
this has been a very strange experience. I really wonder what caused
it. There must be something I did that caused it. Right I can't
think of it. :-)

Best regards,
Philippe Clérié (philippe[a]gcal.net)





Re: Installation problems

2001-06-09 Thread Philippe Clérié

Best regards,
Philippe Clérié ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Original Message -
From: John Galt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Philippe Clérié [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Saturday, 9 June, 2001 16:18
Subject: Re: Installation problems



 I ran across this problem a while ago.  What is happening is you
have the
 degenerate boot-floppies inittab.  If you're comfortable enough
with

Care to elaborate on that? Are you saying that the boot-floppies
are changed during the installation??


 Debian that you can hand install from this point, there's an
 /etc/inittab.real that you just put in place of /etc/inittab and
get tty1
 back.  I think that it's been fixed in newer boot-floppies (at
least I've
 never seen it again).





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