Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

On 29.10.2013 23:43, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: > What is WSUS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_Update_Services -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.

Re: ANDROID

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:59:10 +0400 "Reco recovery...@gmail.com" sent this: > >On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:25:06PM -0400, Doug wrote: >> I think these FSF guys are nuts! > >May be. But they are right kind of nuts in today's crazy world. > > >> They are definitely /not/ for >> freedom--they would,

Re: ANDROID

Hi. On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:25:06PM -0400, Doug wrote: > I think these FSF guys are nuts! May be. But they are right kind of nuts in today's crazy world. > They are definitely /not/ for > freedom--they would, if they could, prohibit people and Linux > distros from including software that peo

Re: local repo

On 10/30/13, Bob Proulx wrote: > andrey.ry...@bilkent.edu.tr wrote: >> I want to make local repositary on computer without internet connection. >> Coze im bored with insertion of dvd to this computer. Will you give me >> good recipe how to do that from CD or DVD set? > > I haven't used this tool s

Re: ANDROID

On 10/29/2013 07:56 PM, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 05:07:08 +0800 > iijima yoshino wrote: > > ... > >> What a shame , Ubuntu is not totally free definated by GNU >> >> Explaining Why We Don't Endorse Other Systems >> http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html > > This has bee

Re: ANDROID

On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:41:55 -0400 shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:48:54 -0200 > > André Nunes Batista wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> phone users. But even in the case of traditional pc's, many people rely > >> on proprietary BIOS or

Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:35:12AM +0100, Grégoire COUTANT wrote: > Ok, someone know how to make the diagnostic ? My suggestion would be to boot your debian install pen drive in rescue mode, mount your installed OS, and grub-install/update-grub. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn..net gpg publ

Re: custom fixed terminal font testing

On 9/8/13, Nick Croft wrote: > * Zenaan Harkness (z...@freedbms.net) wrote: >> So I've customized fixed-misc 6x10 font to create fixed-zen-6x10 font >> and xfontsel does not show my font. >> >> Of course, I want to load an xterm with my funky font changes. >> Anyone know what step I am missing? >

Re: local repo

andrey.ry...@bilkent.edu.tr wrote: > I want to make local repositary on computer without internet connection. > Coze im bored with insertion of dvd to this computer. Will you give me > good recipe how to do that from CD or DVD set? I haven't used this tool so can only hint toward the documentation

Re: ANDROID

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 05:07:08 +0800 iijima yoshino wrote: ... > What a shame , Ubuntu is not totally free definated by GNU > > Explaining Why We Don't Endorse Other Systems > http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html This has been fought endlessly, but their objections to Debian are r

Re: ANDROID

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:48:54 -0200 > André Nunes Batista wrote: > > ... > >> phone users. But even in the case of traditional pc's, many people rely >> on proprietary BIOS or proprietary firmware for special devices or >> cards. > > I'm never real

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

Neal writes: > I think a 'next-gen' sysvinit could be developed--from sysvinit--that > would satisfy most requirements of a services monitor -- John Hasler jh

Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

Sorry for the direct reply... Le 30 oct. 2013 00:13, "Wawrzek Niewodniczanski" a écrit : > [...] > > This looks like possible grub (boot loader) issue. Ok, someone know how to make the diagnostic ? Thanks Grégoire

Re: ANDROID

First, thanks for f-droid - I didn't know about that. I think the most open platform to date is the Pi - there are only certain parts of the processor that are kept under NDA. As for phones, there are many parts of them you will never see released (even openmoko which is old and I'd like one to pl

Re: ANDROID

On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:48:54 -0200 André Nunes Batista wrote: ... > phone users. But even in the case of traditional pc's, many people rely > on proprietary BIOS or proprietary firmware for special devices or > cards. I'm never really sure why people have such a hard time with that - even witho

Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

> From: Grégoire COUTANT > Date: 29 October 2013 23:08 [...] > I use pendrive to install debian. I configure the bios to boot on the > usb then on the ssd > >>Did you remove it? > > Yes, at the end of installation, I remove usb stick and the server > reboot. After the bios loading I see this mess

Fwd: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

By coincident Grégoire send this message directly to me: -- Forwarded message -- From: Grégoire COUTANT Date: 29 October 2013 23:08 Subject: Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot To: Wawrzek Niewodniczanski Hello, Le 29 oct. 2013 22:30, "Wawrzek Niewodniczanski" a éc

Re: ANDROID

On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 10:56 -0400, alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: > Hello to all, > > I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). > Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! > What do you think about it? > Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN G

Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

On 29 October 2013 22:38, Rob Owens wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:52:30PM +0100, Philipp Born wrote: > > Hi, > > > > we're looking for something a bit WSUS-like > What is WSUS? >From bit and pieces of discussion I think that you mike like to look into foreman: http://theforeman.org/ Ch

Re: Problem with halt

On 29 October 2013 08:00, wrote: > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: > >> Recently I moved my home desktop from (x)Ubuntu to Debian Wheezy. The >> experience is positive, with one exception: shutdown doesn't stop power >> for >> my computer. >> > [...] > > http://www.debian.org

Re: local repo

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 03:32:27PM +0200, andrey.ry...@bilkent.edu.tr wrote: > Hi everybody. > I want to make local repositary on computer without internet connection. > Coze im bored with insertion of dvd to this computer. Will you give me > good recipe how to do that from CD or DVD set? > Thanks

Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:52:30PM +0100, Philipp Born wrote: > Hi, > > we're looking for something a bit WSUS-like for Debian (and Ubuntu) > to roll out updates etc on our Debian- and Ubuntu-based > infrastructure. We've already tried Landscape (the licensing fees > are not economically for us) a

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 05:48:20 PM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 04:55:44PM -0400, John wrote: > > Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over > > init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? > > I think it's largely driven by frus

Re: wheezy first install

One of these days I shall actually remember taht it is not safe to click "reply" on the Debian list. Sorry, John. :-( On Tuesday 29 October 2013 16:34:15 John Hasler wrote: > GUI network manager such as NetworkManager. These don't always > get along well with manual network configuration. A m

Re: Help -- GPG error

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Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 04:55:44PM -0400, John wrote: > Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over > init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? I think it's largely driven by frustration over how bipartisan the discussion is and how long it has been goin

Re: Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

On 29 October 2013 20:59, Grégoire COUTANT wrote: Hello Grégoire, [...] > I have a problem when installing a debian server. The server is a Gigabyte > GA-7PESE3. > Few question. > The installation is on an SSD and work perfectly via a boot to a USB drive. > > Have you finished installation? H

Re: ANDROID

在 2013-10-29二的 18:21 +，Curt写道： > On 2013-10-29, iijima yoshino wrote: > > > I guess there is no SMARTPHONE with an os totally free (even Debian as a > > computer os) > > Apparently Ubuntu (are they "totally free"?) can be installed on the > Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4. > > http://www.ubuntu.co

Init system deba{te|cle}

Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? Is it provoked by systemd's effort to be adopted having at least found a home with gnome, made urgent by gnome's status as our default? Couldn't we just make XFCE the

Wheezy Installation doesn't work on reboot

Hello all, I have a problem when installing a debian server. The server is a Gigabyte GA-7PESE3. The installation is on an SSD and work perfectly via a boot to a USB drive. Upon reboot, the system will not boot and hangs on the screen: "Reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in

Re: Problem with halt

On 29 October 2013 17:13, Bob Proulx wrote: > Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: > > Recently I moved my home desktop from (x)Ubuntu to Debian Wheezy. The > > experience is positive, with one exception: shutdown doesn't stop power > for > > my computer. > > How did you move from Ubuntu to Debian? Fr

Re: wheezy first install

On 29/10/2013 17:34, John Hasler wrote: messmate writes: On the first run of the installation, no more internet connection !! I config it manually as always (eth0); ip gateway nameservers and so on. Whatever metapackage you used to install KDE probably pulled in some sort of GUI network manage

Re: Screenshots under flash

On 29/10/13 03:47 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 29/10/13 02:01 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/29/2013 12:37 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I hae been trying to capture on-screen flash pics using ImageMagicks Import command. But on some sites if flash is u

Re: Screenshots under flash

On 29/10/13 02:01 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/29/2013 12:37 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: I hae been trying to capture on-screen flash pics using ImageMagicks Import command. But on some sites if flash is used to display the pics, all I get is a black

Re: ANDROID

I think a very interesting new startup is jolla, by ex-nokia employees: www.jolla.com They claim to be very open, they have android app compatibility, and their first device is to come out before the end of this year. I'm keeping a close eye on them. MJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: ANDROID

On 2013-10-29, iijima yoshino wrote: > I guess there is no SMARTPHONE with an os totally free (even Debian as a > computer os) Apparently Ubuntu (are they "totally free"?) can be installed on the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4. http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: ANDROID

在 2013-10-29二的 10:56 -0400，alex.pad...@laposte.net写道： > Hello to all, > > I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). > Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is > LINUX! > What do you think about it? > Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN GNU LINUX

Re: Screenshots under flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/29/2013 12:37 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > I hae been trying to capture on-screen flash pics using ImageMagicks > Import command. But on some sites if flash is used to display the pics, > all I get is a black screen. I have tried adding -display

gnome flashback without nautilus managing desktop

SID now sports Gnome 3.8, in which Gnome Fallback got replaced with Gnome Flashback. What I liked about the Fallback was the in my hands better usability compared to Gnome Shell, e.g. most things were available within one mouse click. Also, it didn't use the various gimmicks and graphics effects t

Re: ANDROID

On 10/29/2013 12:26 PM Andrew McGlashan wrote: On 30/10/2013 2:40 AM, ken wrote: >On 10/29/2013 10:56 amalex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: >You might want to look at openmoko.org and openmoko.com. These offer >smartphones with GNU/Linux from the beginning. So of course you can get >all the source

Re: Problem with halt

Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: > Recently I moved my home desktop from (x)Ubuntu to Debian Wheezy. The > experience is positive, with one exception: shutdown doesn't stop power for > my computer. How did you move from Ubuntu to Debian? Fresh installation? I have this very, very vague memory that

Screenshots under flash

I hae been trying to capture on-screen flash pics using ImageMagicks Import command. But on some sites if flash is used to display the pics, all I get is a black screen. I have tried adding -display:0 to the import command but so far no luck. Anybody have a solution. I don't want to use gnom

Re: wheezy first install

messmate writes: > On the first run of the installation, no more internet connection !! > I config it manually as always (eth0); ip gateway nameservers and so > on. Whatever metapackage you used to install KDE probably pulled in some sort of GUI network manager such as NetworkManager. These don't

Re: ANDROID

On 30/10/2013 2:40 AM, ken wrote: > On 10/29/2013 10:56 AM alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: > You might want to look at openmoko.org and openmoko.com. These offer > smartphones with GNU/Linux from the beginning. So of course you can get > all the source code, develop things yourself, etc. Latest n

Re: ANDROID

Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 10:56 -0400, alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! What do you think about it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_

wheezy first install

Hi, i'v installed wheezy and this is my first impression: - installed in graphics expert mode - any child can do that :) - i don't like gnome so installed kde - the installation is a charm but... On the first run of the installation, no more internet connection !! I config it manually as always (e

Re: ANDROID

alex.pad...@laposte.net writes: > I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). > Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! > What do you think about it? > Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN GNU LINUX I have a Palm Pre 2 that runs a Debian 6.

Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

2013/10/28 Philipp Born : > Hi, > > we're looking for something a bit WSUS-like for Debian (and Ubuntu) to roll > out updates etc on our Debian- and Ubuntu-based infrastructure. We've > already tried Landscape (the licensing fees are not economically for us) and > Spacewalk (which would be perfect,

Re: ANDROID

On 10/29/2013 10:56 AM alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: Hello to all, I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! What do you think about it? Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN GNU LINUX Thank you f

Re: ANDROID

On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 10:56 -0400, alex.pad...@laposte.net wrote: > I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). > Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is > LINUX! > What do you think about it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29 AFAIK

ANDROID

Hello to all, I shall want to buy a SMARTPHONE with a free O.S (GNU). Many of my friends say to me that ANDROID is a free system, it is LINUX! What do you think about it? Does it exist a SMARTPHONE with a system DEBIAN GNU LINUX Thank you for your answers Alex

Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

Right...Would love to know if anyone has done too :-) On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Philipp Born wrote: > On 29.10.2013 11:29, Colin wrote: > >> Did Landscape support Debian ? >> And apart from the cost, what issues did you encounter with it ? It >> seems by your requirements are very speci

Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

On 29.10.2013 11:29, Colin wrote: Did Landscape support Debian ? And apart from the cost, what issues did you encounter with it ? It seems by your requirements are very specific and that you will need to invest your time or someone else's but I doubt you can do it without some sort of compensati

Re: Attachments [WAS] Re: firmware installation

On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:03:13 +0700 Diogene Laerce wrote: > >> On Tuesday 29 October 2013 11:46:39 Celejar wrote: > >> > >>> [Please don't hijack threads.] > >>> > >>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:26:52 +0700 > >>> Diogene Laerce wrote: > >>> > >> [snip] > >> > >> According to my system,

Re: Attachments [WAS] Re: firmware installation

On Tuesday 29 October 2013 11:46:39 Celejar wrote: [Please don't hijack threads.] On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:26:52 +0700 Diogene Laerce wrote: [snip] According to my system, he hasn't done so. I was replying to this message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/10/msg0

Re: Help -- GPG error

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:58 PM, wrote: > > I'm getting > > "W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The > following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not > available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553" > > doing apt-get/aptitude update for wheezy. > > H

Re: Attachments [WAS] Re: firmware installation

On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:23:58 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 29 October 2013 11:46:39 Celejar wrote: > > [Please don't hijack threads.] > > > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:26:52 +0700 > > Diogene Laerce wrote: > [snip] > > According to my system, he hasn't done so. I was replying to this messa

Re: Help -- GPG error

writes: > "W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The > following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is > not available: NO_PUBKEY 8B48AD6246925553" Try to update first the package debian-archive-keyring. The new version might contain the signatures

Re: firmware installation

Sent privately in error _again_. Sorry Diogene. On Tuesday 29 October 2013 10:26:52 Diogene Laerce wrote: > And I wouldn't like to post multiples times the same > message.. Would I, Lizi ? :D :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Attachments [WAS] Re: firmware installation

On Tuesday 29 October 2013 11:46:39 Celejar wrote: > [Please don't hijack threads.] > > On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:26:52 +0700 > Diogene Laerce wrote: [snip] According to my system, he hasn't done so. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: firmware installation

Hi, *> Where are those firmwares currently installed? Where did you get them > from?* I built now 2 kernels for experimental purpose : 3.2.52 and 3.11.6. Both with initrd option passed at the "mkinitramfs -k -o /boot/initrd.img- " command. After this I just installed the linux-firmware pack

Attachments [WAS] Re: firmware installation

[Please don't hijack threads.] On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:26:52 +0700 Diogene Laerce wrote: > Hi, > > Is the list accept attachments in the messages ? And if yes, is there > any weight limitation ? "Avoid sending large attachments." http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > I sent a me

Re: Is my unattended upgrades working?

Am Montag, 28. Oktober 2013, 11:58:00 schrieb Bob Proulx: > Florian Lindner wrote: > > > Florian Lindner wrote: > > > > root@astarte ~ # ll /etc/cron.daily > > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14985 Jun 4 11:33 apt.dpkg-dist* > > > > The thing what puzzles me most is that if the apt.dpkg-dist script >

Re: Centralized update management (WSUS-like) for Debian-based systems?

Did Landscape support Debian ? And apart from the cost, what issues did you encounter with it ? It seems by your requirements are very specific and that you will need to invest your time or someone else's but I doubt you can do it without some sort of compensation... Cheers

Re: firmware installation

Hi, Is the list accept attachments in the messages ? And if yes, is there any weight limitation ? I sent a message today which seemed to be eaten by the spam guardian. And I wouldn't like to post multiples times the same message.. Would I, Lizi ? :D Thank you -- “One original thought is worth

Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question])

On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> >> The "standard" task installs both nfs-common and rpcbind. > > Aha! Apparently the ability to nfs mount in /etc/fstab is the root > cause of the dependency chain that requires nfs-common and therefore > portmapper. At a guess

Re: Problem with halt

On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Wawrzek Niewodniczanski wrote: Recently I moved my home desktop from (x)Ubuntu to Debian Wheezy. The experience is positive, with one exception: shutdown doesn't stop power for my computer. I tried to play with settings in /etc/default/halt - both 'poweroff' and 'halt' have t