Re: Problem loading Debian 9.8.0

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2019-04-10, Patrick Gallagher  wrote:
> --9c7f3b05862d2a11
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Suppot,

This is not support. This is a mailing list for users of debian, just like you.
>
> I installed Debian 9.8.0 on my laptop using an iso DVD image and Virtualbox
> 6.0.4
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/
>
> I create a virtual drive of 50GB and loaded the ISO from a local folder on
> my Laptop.
>
> The installation went fine but when it went to boot the Virtual box
> software but the Debian OS didn't load.

[...]

> Any suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick

I don't use debian as a guest OS on virtualbox, but I know that there
are various prebuilt debian images[1] for that platform. You might have
better luck with one of those.

1: https://www.osboxes.org/debian/

-- 

Liam

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[David Christensen]

On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote:

I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop
which has no installed OS on it.

It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty
bay where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD.

I would like to use a live image on a large USB for preparing the
disks before installing Win 10 and then Deb 9.

Some questions:

1. What is the best filesystem (FS) to use on the USB? They usually
come with a FAT32 or exFAT FS, but I have in the past made them
exFAT. As I understand it, I believe I can just copy the Debian CD
live iso image file onto the USB and it will be found and booted from
fine.

2. If a straight copy works as in question 1, is there any problem
with adding other files on the USB? I have a 64 Gb USB I would like
to use for both a live image as well as storing other files on it.

Given that I'm starting with two clean drives, my plan is to use the
small disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian and maybe have a small
partition to experiment with a BSD OS.

3. Any suggestions as to partitioning given the advantages of the new
(to me) GPT disk formats?

4. Which partitioning program is best to use? I am used to using
fdisk and parted, but I see partion manager mentioned.



On 4/11/19 8:01 PM, David Christensen wrote:

Which model zareason laptop? Which make, model, form factor, and
interface 120 GB SSD? Which form factor and interface Samsung EVO 860
1 TB SSD? How much RAM? Make and model WiFi interface?



On 4/12/19 7:09 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
Laptop = UltraLap 6440 i7 Options: Linux Version: No operating 
system Processor: i7-8550U Dual Memory: 8 GB DDR4-2133 Video Card: 
Intel UHD 620 (included) M.2 SSD: 120GB M.2 SSD (included) 2.5: — 
WiFi: Intel® Wireless AC Dual-Band (2.4/5ghz) Bluetooth: (included) 
Battery: 6-cell (included) AC Adapters: 1 (included) Card Reader: 
SD/MMC (included) Webcam: HD webcam (included)


Samsung SSD 860 EVO == V-NAND SSD SATA 6 Gb/s size:
1 Tb production date: 2019-02-23 5 year limited warranty bought from
 Amazon



On 4/12/19 7:50 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and 
btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at 
least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.


Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, 
non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants 
reasonable reliability?



On 4/12/19 7:50 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and 
btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at 
least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.


Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, 
non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants 
reasonable reliability?



Thank you for the hardware info.  Looking at the product page:

http://zareason.com/ultralap-6440-i7.html

1.  That looks like a nice laptop.  :-)

2.  It is interesting that the operating system drop-down list is 
labeled "Linux Version", and that Windows is conspicuously absent.


3.  It is also interesting that there is no "Support" link.  But, there 
is a telephone number.



I suggest:

1.  Replace the 120 GB M.2 SSD with a 1 TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD ($168 
on Amazon), so you can do RAID1 (mirror).


2.  Plan to install one host OS on the hardware and use a hypervisor/ 
virtual machines for any and all other OS's.


3.  Install Windows 10 (Professional or Enterprise).  I don't know if 
you can load a driver and configure hardware RAID during Windows 
installation, create a software RAID during Windows installation, or 
install Windows onto one SSD and set up RAID later.  (Understand that 
each choice has disaster recovery ramifications.)  Let the Windows 
installer allocate all available space on both SSD's. (The SSD's already 
have over-provisioning built in; you should not need more for a 
desktop).  Be careful not to activate Windows (!).  Once Windows is 
installed, try to get all of the hardware working (e.g. drivers).  Test 
as much of Windows as you can.  Then install whatever application 
software you plan to use and test that.  Explore backup, archive, image, 
and restore scenarios.  Type notes into another computer while you work. 
 Take photographs of important screens.


4.  Repeat the above process using Debian.  Choose manual partitioning 
in the Debian installer, and explore every option until you figure it 
out (you can always reboot the laptop if you get stuck).  Delete all 
partitions and partition tables on both drives.  Create new partition 
tables.  Create three mirrored partitions on each SSD -- boot, swap, and 
root.  Choose partition sizes so that the three partitions together 
consume 80~90% of a USB flash drive.  (I prefer 16 GB devices and use ~1 
GB boot partitions, ~1 GB swap partitions, and ~10 GB root partitions). 
 Encrypt swap and root, 

Re: Detour: notmuch advertisement

[황병희]

On Fri, Apr 12 2019, John Hasler wrote:
> Peter writes:
>> If you're using the kitchen sink, why not stay completely in emacs?
>
> Right.  Use Gnus.

Me too, Gnus is it!!!

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

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Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Default User]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 18:07 Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Default User wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter  wrote:
>
> > And what about Btrfs?
>
> I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an
> option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where
> doing normal maintenance ended up destroying data more than
> once. It may be better now; I haven't looked back.
>
> -dsr-
>



Dan, thanks for the feedback.

Re: Detour: notmuch advertisement

[John Hasler]

Peter writes:
> If you're using the kitchen sink, why not stay completely in emacs?

Right.  Use Gnus.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Detour: notmuch advertisement (was: emacs save and kill buffer for (neo)mutt)

[Peter Wiersig]

Pétùr  writes:

> I use neomutt with emacs.

If you're using the kitchen sink, why not stay completely in emacs?
https://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/12927
(Disclaimer: I wrote one of the answers to that meta question)

I used mutt for decades, I still think it's a fine tool, but I found
more happiness in my chosen "notmuch" mail setup.  David & the bunch are
doing a terrific job with the project as whole and the debian packages
in focus, and even if you're building the project directly from the
repository, it's no bother with dabian (even stable).

What I gained by dropping mutt was an uninterupted access to the rest of
my life in emacs, and the user interface is streamlined to hundreds or
thousands of replied messages a day.

A I finish this post, the next keypress will be C-c C-c like many other
emacs modes, which will send the mail to the list, bury the buffer and
redisplay the search results, where I filtered for debian-user and
unread before.

Yours,
Peter

Re: DVD Creation software

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 12:48:13 +0100
Paul Sutton  wrote:

> Hi
> 
> 
> I would like to take a set of video files (I have mp4  and am aware they
> need transcoding) and put these on a dvd along with a menu etc, so they
> can be played from VLC or as a normal dvd.
> 
> I did this years ago, it appears the application bombono no longer
> exists (or it is not in the Debian repositories)
> 

in deb-multimedia there is a package bombono-dvd, in case using multimedia
is an option for you.

Regards

Michael


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Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[mick crane]

On 2019-04-12 16:11, Celejar wrote:

On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:54:57 -0400
Dan Ritter  wrote:


mick crane wrote:
> I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top level
> domain.

Nothing. They don't have to.

If you want a top level domain and you control your own
nameservers, you've got it.

But nobody else is likely to query your nameservers about it, so
it won't be used by anyone else.

This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use
within your house, and now you have names that nobody else will
see.


And there are actually alternative DNS roots:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root


I have wondered about this because think when all started it was the 
intention of a cooperative of computers advertising where they were and 
where everybody else was so as to be  difficult to disrupt the 
connections whereas now it seems different to that.

Obviously there has to be some agreement about who represents what.





Celejar


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Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Dan Ritter]

Default User wrote: 
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter  wrote:
 
> And what about Btrfs?

I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an
option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where
doing normal maintenance ended up destroying data more than
once. It may be better now; I haven't looked back.

-dsr-

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[deloptes]

David Wright wrote:

> Your figures are virtually meaningless without any sort of breakdown
> even into what's system and what's your documents.
> 

yeah yeah ... use your imagination. Sqldeveloper, couple of virtual
machines, some installation packages each of which is 1-2GB and so one
Software for testing and such to be tested ... oracle DB installer ... all
kind of crap.
The point is if you want to work with this, you need more space and 120G
might be simply not enough.

> And mention of cygwin merely clouds the issue: you say you just need a
> decent shell, and a minimal installation will give you that. OTOH, a
> full implementation is a completely different kettle of fish, and I
> hazard that most linux users won't be interested in it at all.

you do not know what exactly I installed, but I installed not only minimal
shell, but X as well - no need to explain why ... it just adds to what is
already there.

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Dan Ritter]

Tom Browder wrote: 
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter  wrote:
> ...
> > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS
> > is pretty easy to accomplish.
> 
> Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do
> you mean taking it for a ride like a new car where one has to learn
> new controls in a reliable vehicle, or flying in a local home-built
> experimental aircraft?  ;-D

ZFS is like learning to drive an 18-wheel truck after you have
lots of experience in cargo vans: you're certain that it can do
all sorts of things very reliably, and if you mess it up, you
will feel that it's entirely your own fault for not reading
and/or getting good advice first.

E.g.: when you set up an ext4fs on a laptop, you trust that mkfs
has, if not optimal defaults, certainly reasonable defaults.
"zfs create" has reasonable defaults, but the prerequisite
"zpool create" does not. Read carefully, and figure out what
ashift setting you want before you run anything.

-dsr-

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Thomas D Dial]

On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 12:43 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Tom Browder wrote: 
> > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
> > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at
> > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer,
> > non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants
> > reasonable reliability?
> 
> If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS
> is pretty easy to accomplish.
> 
> ZFS for root is too difficult to recommend to a casual user
> today, but I expect that to change in a version or two.

I'll second this recommendation, with two additional comments. First,
there is a good set of instructions for installing with root on ZFS at

https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Debian-Stretch-Root-on-ZFS

that, if followed carefully and accurately, is very likely to result in
a successful install, including LUKS encryption and root on ZFS. I have
been testing one such on a VM for several months and plan shortly
install on an old (2011) Apple Macbook. My only deviations were to omit
encryption and to use Buster, rather than Stretch, as the target. I
think at the time I did it that may have given me a later version of
ZFS, and it was clear that Buster would become the new stable version
around the time I wanted to use ZFS for real.

The install process described there is straightforward, and it includes
the steps needed if you want to encrypt the file systemsbut very much
hands on. I don't think I would call it difficult as much as requiring
careful attention to detail while carrying out a fairly lengthy
procedure. It is possible to cut and paste many of the commands, but
they must be edited carefully for the target environment.

If you have a new and untouched machine, it would be an excellent
opportunity to try this without really risking anything but time and
maybe frustration.

Second, ZFS comes with a significant learning curve and differs a bit
from more traditional and common file systems used in Linuxland,
including those used with LVM. LVM adds a layer to management; ZFS
changes management quite a bit, although generally for the better. The
Oracle documentation for their commercial ZFS, though, is available on
their web site and generally usable with openzfs, although incompletely
because the later features of Oracle ZFS are not available.

ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat
familiar with ZFS.

Regards,
Tom Dial

> 
> -dsr-

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[David Wright]

On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 21:42:51 (+0200), deloptes wrote:
> David Wright wrote:
> 
> > We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four
> > years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint,
> > Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage
> > is approximately 90GB, of which the user's own files are 45GB,
> > in a partition of 175GB. The partition was originally 423GB,
> > but I carved the space for my linux system out of it.
> 
> on the company notebook I am still on windows 7. the disk is 250GB with more
> applications than office and many documents, diagrams etc it is now at
> ~170GB
> 
> so you see 120 is not that much for windows.
> 
> At home I have a virtual machine with windows7 where I run visio mostly but
> have the data on the share. I had to increase disk to 70GB recently after
> seriously cleaning up.
> 
> I need to use that crap for money making ... oh and part of this 170GB is
> occupied by cygwin cause you need a more or less decent shell if you have
> to work with servers.

Your figures are virtually meaningless without any sort of breakdown
even into what's system and what's your documents.

And mention of cygwin merely clouds the issue: you say you just need a
decent shell, and a minimal installation will give you that. OTOH, a
full implementation is a completely different kettle of fish, and I
hazard that most linux users won't be interested in it at all.

Cheers,
David.

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Felix Miata]

Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500):

> I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
> btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at
> least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.

Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requires considerably more space than older
filesystems, as much as double.

> Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer,
> non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants
> reasonable reliability?

IMO it boils down to which you prefer:

1-sticking with what works, familiarity, finding web search answers easily?

or

2-replacing paradigms, learning new stuff?

It seems rather unusual to see any LVM user not recommend LVM.

As a member of the over-60 class, I prefer sticking with what works for me. I 
only
moved from EXT3 to EXT4 about 4 years ago, when I moved from 32bit to 64 bit.
LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in large
part on cloning useless.
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Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Brian]

On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 12:13:09 -0500, Tom Browder wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter  wrote:
> ...
> > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS
> > is pretty easy to accomplish.
> 
> Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do
> you mean taking it for a ride like a new car where one has to learn
> new controls in a reliable vehicle, or flying in a local home-built
> experimental aircraft?  ;-D

That is exactly what he means.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[Celejar]

On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 07:54:57 -0400
Dan Ritter  wrote:

> mick crane wrote: 
> > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top level
> > domain.
> 
> Nothing. They don't have to.
> 
> If you want a top level domain and you control your own
> nameservers, you've got it.
> 
> But nobody else is likely to query your nameservers about it, so
> it won't be used by anyone else.
> 
> This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use
> within your house, and now you have names that nobody else will
> see.

And there are actually alternative DNS roots:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root

Celejar

Re: terminal with right-click = paste?

[Lee]

On 4/12/19, to...@tuxteam.de  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:56:36AM -0400, Lee wrote:
>
>> so I don't know if case is significant or no
>
> Typically, an object (application, widget within an app, etc.) has
> a lower-case name, where object classes have an upper case name.
>
> The result is that it often doesn't matter whether you target an
> object or its whole class in the resource specification.

Thanks - that got me looking in the right place.

It turns out you need to _not_ be too general.  Originally I had
  XTerm*Translations: #override \
and got warnings every time I started an xterm.  Apparently I was also
changing the translations for menus or something..
Change it to
  XTerm*VT100.Translations: #override \
and no more error messages.

Same deal with setting XTerm*geometry and seeing only a small bit of
the popup menu.

I still haven't found a doc describing the button modifiers - eg
 ~Meta :select-start() \n\
  !Lock Ctrl @Num_Lock :popup-menu(mainMenu) \n\

If anybody knows where the modifiers (Meta, Ctrl, Lock, etc) and
qualifiers (~!@ etc) are documented, please share.

Where I am now - a usable xterm, no error messages, left
double-clicking on a filename selects the whole filename,
right-clicking pastes the text and left/middle/right click
brings up the appropriate menu popup

$ cat .Xresources
XTerm*faceName: DejaVu Sans Mono
XTerm*faceSize: 12

XTerm*scrollBar: true
XTerm*rightScrollBar: true

XTerm*VT100.geometry: 120x24
! NOTE: XTerm*geometry: NxN  also changes the popup menu size!

XTerm*VT100.Translations: #override \
 ~Ctrl ~Meta :  select-start() \n\
 ~Ctrl ~Meta :select-extend() \n\
 ~Ctrl ~Meta :select-end(PRIMARY, CUT_BUFFER0) \n\
 ~Ctrl ~Meta :  ignore() \n\
 ~Ctrl ~Meta :insert-selection(SELECT, CUT_BUFFER0) \n
! --- maybe this is applicable?
! https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.6/doc/man/man5/Compose.5.xhtml
!   Each modifier consists of a specified modifier and a state:
! (! MODIFIER ) | None
!   Modifiers may be preceded by a "~" character to indicate that the
modifier must not be present.

XTerm*VT100.charClass: 45-47:48,95:48,126:48
! I like being able to double-click on a filename & having the text selected
! So add dash (45), period (46), slash (47), underscore (95) and tilde (126)
! to the aplhanumeric character class (48)
!   man xterm
!   / int charClass
! the number below the character is the character class
! notice that all the letters & digits are character class 48
!
! $ echo -n "-./_~" | od -a -td1
! 000-./_~
!   45   46   47   95  126
! 005


Lee

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

[Thomas D Dial]

On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 09:41 -0500, Tom Browder wrote:
> I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but
> I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions.
> 
> Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering
> ising LVM but want to get the option of expert users: Should I go that
> route?

I would strongly recommend LVM as an option. I have used LVM on Linux -
and Debian - for as long as it has been available, and for some years
earlier on HP-UX.

As far as I know, it is no more likely to have failures than any other
disk layout, data recovery after failure is no harder. The only real
additional consideration is the need for the recovery machine and
software to understand enough about LVM, and any other Linux based
system can easily be used for that even if it does not intrinsically use
LVM.

In terms of management, it is a major advance over physical partitioning
for the file systems and, depending on particular file system
characteristics, allows you to get out of space problems without down
time in many cases (online resizing is available for jfs, xfs, I think
for ext2/3/4, and possibly others).

My recommendation is to use it unless you choose to use ZFS.

Regards,
Tom Dial

> 
> Every thing I read says I should, but my reluctance in the the past
> has always been my comfort level with handling disk failures (I've had
> my share) and recovery of lost data. Note that most of my disk
> failures have been the computer interface and I have been able to read
> the "bad" disk from another computer via a USB inteface.
> 
> I'm leaning toward using LVM but would appreciate any advice from LVM
> users.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> -Tom

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 12.04.2019 23:47, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:13:49PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> It looks like I am writing something like 20 GB per day
>
> That's basically nothing for a reasonably sized modern SSD.
>
Still the SSD market is having a steady decline in terms of
quality\longevity of NAND based devices.
SSD manufacturers quickly discovered that drives they sell are too good
and last too long.
So now we have TLC-based and QLC-based drives for almost all market
segments, which sold for almost the same price as MLC-based drives were
sold in the past.
Ex. Kingston HyperX FURY [SHFS37A/120G] was produced in 2014 and was
MLC(2bit)-based. It had 3 year warranty and was rated for 354 TBW or
2,69 DWPD.
HyperX Fury RGB [SHFR200/240G] (2019) is now 3D TLC(3bit)-based. It has
same 3 year limited warranty and advertised as 120 TBW or 0,46 DWPD.

Worst offender of this "modern SSD fraud" is Samsung, because he still
says 3D-NAND-V-whatever MLC in advertisements when in fact those drives
are TLC, because TLC NAND is 3bit per cell.
Only recently, Samsung began to add (3bit) to that "3D V-NAND MLC"
phrasing in specifications.
Other manufacturers parroting the same marketing trick and getting away
with it.
And as a result, MLC-based drives almost vanished from
consumer\enthusiast markets because people are happy with TLC and know
no better.


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Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[Thomas D Dial]

On Thu, 2019-04-11 at 20:01 -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> On 4/11/19 5:02 AM, Tom Browder wrote:
> > I'm preparing to install Win 10 and Deb 9 on a new ZaReason laptop
> > which
> > has no installed OS on it.
> > 
> > It comes with one 120 Gb SSD as its primary drive and has an empty
> > bay
> > where I will install a Samsung evo 860 1 Tb SSD.
Detailed instructions for installation media are at

https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid

They also apply to live-cd/live-dvd .iso media per

https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

The process (using the cp command on linux or functionally similar
commands on Windows) creates a file system that you do not have reason
to know or care about. The last one I used had a small EFI partition
(type ef) and 2.4 GB marked empty that actually contained all the data
and mount recognizes as an iso9660 file system.

Other parts of the Debian Installation Guide are likely to be useful as
well.

I can offer the following dual boot installation as a suggestive
example. This was to a HP Pavilion laptop dating from about 2011 that
has a traditional BIOS rather than EFI with the original HP setup and
Windows 10 (upgrade from Windows 7). I can't claim the procedure will
work on other equipment or EFI, but it seems reasonably likely that it
would.

In this case, I did not touch the internal disk because the HP factory
installation of Windows and various HP utilities used all four available
partitions. Instead, I installed Debian (Buster, but Stretch should not
be different in any significant way) on a 128 GB USB key, using either
the Live image mentioned above or a Netinstall .iso image put on the USB
key as described in the installation guide.

I let the installer partition the USB key that was the install target
and picked LVM, but specified distinct /, /usr/, /var, /home, and swap
partitions and left some empty space within the LVM volume group. The
installer offers a number of other options. Once partitioning was
complete, the installation was like any other Debian install, including
grub installation, which automatically found both the USB "disk" and the
internal disk with Windows.

I left the BIOS boot sequence with the USB device ahead of the internal
disk in the boot sequence, resulting in:

1. With the USB key in place, the Grub menu allowed choice of either
Debian (default) or Windows from the internal disk;

2. With the USB key removed, Windows booted normally.

There were no issues except that I seem to remember having to restore
the BIOS boot sequence after a Windows Patch Tuesday.

Regards,
Tom Dial

> 
> Which model zareason laptop?
> 
> 
> Which make, model, form factor, and interface 120 GB SSD?
> 
> 
> Which form factor and interface Samsung EVO 860 1 TB SSD?
> 
> 
> How much RAM?
> 
> 
> Make and model WiFi interface?
> 
> 
> David

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[deloptes]

Greg Wooledge wrote:

> A lot of people are still using cached knowledge from pre-jessie days.

no you know at least one in the context of fdisk.

I don't know why but I got the impression it does not understand GPT. Just 2
months ago I had to partition 5TB RAID5 disk and fdisk did not work.
Perhaps it was because 5TB is too much and not because it could not handle
GPT.

thanks

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[deloptes]

David Wright wrote:

> We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four
> years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint,
> Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage
> is approximately 90GB, of which the user's own files are 45GB,
> in a partition of 175GB. The partition was originally 423GB,
> but I carved the space for my linux system out of it.

on the company notebook I am still on windows 7. the disk is 250GB with more
applications than office and many documents, diagrams etc it is now at
~170GB

so you see 120 is not that much for windows.

At home I have a virtual machine with windows7 where I run visio mostly but
have the data on the share. I had to increase disk to 70GB recently after
seriously cleaning up.

I need to use that crap for money making ... oh and part of this 170GB is
occupied by cygwin cause you need a more or less decent shell if you have
to work with servers.

regards

Re: New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 12.04.2019 19:41, Tom Browder wrote:
> I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but
> I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions.
>
> Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering
> ising LVM but want to get the option of expert users: Should I go that
> route?
>
> Every thing I read says I should, but my reluctance in the the past
> has always been my comfort level with handling disk failures (I've had
> my share) and recovery of lost data. Note that most of my disk
> failures have been the computer interface and I have been able to read
> the "bad" disk from another computer via a USB inteface.
>
> I'm leaning toward using LVM but would appreciate any advice from LVM users.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Tom
>
This post on StackExchange marked as answer [1] is a great source of
information about LVM.
It was updated a few times by author to correct outdated information.
Highly recommended for reading.

IMO, LVM is not worth the trouble if you use it for just one disk drive.
It will add another layer on top of the usual stack and can greatly
complicate the data recovery process on disk drive that has multiple
"bad" sectors.
When automated process of LVM discovery fails, you end up with disk that
has it's data separated in strips, just like is RAID0, but much larger
in size.
There is still next to none tools available for the purposes of data
recovery from LVM.
It shares similar problems with "Storage Spaces" and ReFS from Microsoft.


[1] https://serverfault.com/questions/279571/lvm-dangers-and-caveats

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Re: Debugging samba

[deloptes]

Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:

> The bug id 13439 give me an interesting info (about kernel / glibc).
> I'll follow this thread to see if a solution will be added.
> 
> I'm running kernel 4.9.144-3.1 (from debian repo)

I always optimize and use a newer version of the kernel, which I build for
the machine in question, which means I am far away from 4.9 for at least
two years now. Which seems consistant, because I saw there was coredump
from 2017 laying around - don't know if it is related or not though.
ATM I am on 4.19.25 which is LTS and I think I'll stick to it for a while as
everything is working so well, that I do not see a reason to change.

But on the other hand it is showing pthread as a problem and they were
discussing about some race condition - might be I never hit this condition
and you do more often.

Good luck

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:13:49PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

It looks like I am writing something like 20 GB per day


That's basically nothing for a reasonably sized modern SSD.

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 12/04/2019 à 16:09, Tom Browder a écrit :


M.2 SSD:
120GB M.2 SSD (included)

Samsung SSD 860 EVO
==
V-NAND SSD
SATA 6 Gb/s
size: 1 Tb



my plan is to use the small disk for Win 10 and the other for Debian


If the small M.2 SSD has a NVMe or AHCI interface, it may be faster than 
the big SATA SSD.


SATA is limited by the SATA protocol and link speed.
AHCI is limited by the SATA protocol and the PCIe link speed.
NVMe is limited by the PCIe link speed.

Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Pierre L.]

Ok merci pour le retour !!



Le 12/04/2019 à 15:08, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :
> J’ai plusieurs carnets d’adresses et plusieurs agenda par utilisateur
> sur mon
> serveur Radicale. Ça fonctionne très bien.
>
> Sébastien
>




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Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Pierre L.]

Un terme purement marketing très probablement, et qui donne envie
d'investir au client (chébran) quelques coups de carte bleue dans une
nouvelle technologie à la pointe pour être à la page et avoir la classe
auprès de son auditoire ;)

Petite citation du vendredi, tirée de d'un accroche commerciale (
https://products.office.com/fr-fr )
    Qu’est-ce qu’Office 365 ?
    Office 365 est un service d’abonnement basé sur le cloud regroupant
les outils les plus adaptés aux méthodes de travail d’aujourd’hui.

Si c'est pas la classe de faire aussi partie de ce "cloud" contre
quelques deniers ?


Le 12/04/2019 à 19:34, Haricophile a écrit :
> Bref je vois plus "cloud" comme un terme désignant une pratique que comme un
> terme purement technique. On a besoin de ce genre de termes quand on vend des
> packages intégrés, comme par exemple "la box" (modem-routeur-multimedia).




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Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Default User]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Tom Browder wrote:
> > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
> > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at
> > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.
> >
> > Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer,
> > non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants
> > reasonable reliability?
>
> If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS
> is pretty easy to accomplish.
>
> ZFS for root is too difficult to recommend to a casual user
> today, but I expect that to change in a version or two.
>
> -dsr-
>



And what about Btrfs?

Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Haricophile]

Le mercredi 10 avril 2019 à 17:56 +0200, Pierre L. a écrit :
> Ceci dit, le mot "cloud" ne veut pas dire "partager". Je pense que cette
> fausse idée probablement véhiculée par les médias (avis personnel)
> fausse l'idée qu'on doit s'en faire.

"Cloud" ne veut rien dire, pas plus que "Web2". Ce sont des dénomination
commerciales pratiques pour désigner un système qui utilise des choses
inhérentes aux fonctionnalités du réseau internet, qui existaient avant, mais
qui sont devenu massivement utilisés principalement à cause de la montée en
puissance du réseau et des matériels (et l'augmentation des utilisateurs
divers par la même occasion).

Si je devais caractériser "cloud" par quelque chose de plus technique, je
dirais quelque chose comme "moteur de synchronisation de fichiers". Il y a
bien entendu pas mal de progrès faits, de type "informatique distribuée", mais
je ne pense pas qu'il y ait une une vraie innovation comme celle du protocole
HTTP avec l'hyper-texte.

Bref je vois plus "cloud" comme un terme désignant une pratique que comme un
terme purement technique. On a besoin de ce genre de termes quand on vend des
packages intégrés, comme par exemple "la box" (modem-routeur-multimedia).

Mon opinion n'engage que moi.

Re: emacs save and kill buffer for (neo)mutt

[David Wright]

On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 18:04:45 (+0200), Pétùr wrote:
> I use neomutt with emacs.
> 
> I would like to quickly save and kill a buffer in emacs. This is to
> avoid typing C-x C-s and, then, C-x C-c when sending an email. I want
> one shortcut to save and kill the buffer and be back quickly in mutt to
> send the email.
> 
> I tried the following inside my .emacs (binded to C-q). It works but
> kill also the window when inside a terminal. I am not going back to mutt
> after writing inside emacs (-nw) and C-q. How can I fix that?

I just put
(global-set-key [?\C-q] "\C-x\C-s\C-x\C-c")
into my ~/.emacs file and it works just as one would expect, both when
emacs is running in a separate window (which disappears) or when emacs
is running with -nw in an xterm (the xterm is unaffected).

I will finish composing this email (in emacs -nw) by typing ^q and
expect to be left in mutt, whereupon I shall press y to send it.
Is that what you wnat?

Here goes …

> ;; Kill the current buffer immediatly, saving it if needed.
> (defvar kill-save-buffer-delete-windows t
>  "*Delete windows when `kill-save-buffer' is used.
> If this is non-nil, then `kill-save-buffer' will also delete the corresponding
> windows.  This is inverted by `kill-save-buffer' when called with a prefix.")
> (defun kill-save-buffer (arg)
>  "Save the current buffer (if needed) and then kill it.
> Also, delete its windows according to `kill-save-buffer-delete-windows'.
> A prefix argument ARG reverses this behavior."
>  (interactive "P")
>  (let ((del kill-save-buffer-delete-windows))
>(when arg (setq del (not del)))
>(when (and (buffer-file-name) (not (file-directory-p (buffer-file-name
>  (save-buffer))
>(let ((buf (current-buffer)))
>  (when del (delete-windows-on buf))
>  (kill-buffer buf
> 
> (global-set-key (kbd "C-q") 'kill-save-buffer)
> 

Cheers,
David.

Re: INFO: task blocked for more than 120 seconds

[Étienne Mollier]

Bonjour,

C'est dommage que chaque sortie de noyau soit sur une seule
ligne:  ça rend la lecture des listings vraiment très
désagréable.  :(

Ceci étant, j'ai cru voir un truc peut-être intéressant (ou
peut-être impertinent, dépendant de la causes.)

steve, au 2019-04-12 :
> 1 box kernel: [ 3988.692314]   Tainted: P   OE ...
 ^~~
Le noyau est teinté, quelle en est la cause ?  (ce devrait être
indiqué quelque part dans la sortie de `dmesg`.)

Si un sous système corrompt le noyau, alors il n'est peut-être
pas nécessaire de chercher plus loin, et juste de le désactiver.

Bien à vous,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 

Re: Gitlab CI

[Alex Muntada]

Hola Leo,

> El que voldria posar en marxa i no m'ensurto és el CI. Suposo
> que no entenc prou bé el tema del Linux containers o els
> Kubernetes i no sé com posar en marxa un gitlab-runner.

Jo he configurat runners privats pel gitlab de la UPC que corrien
al PC de la meva oficina (com que la connexió va amb websockets
no cal que el runner tingui una IP pública).

> Algú ho ha fet o sap com fer-ho? Hi ha alguna ànima caritativa
> que pogués fer 4 ratlles de com posar en marxa tot aquest
> sistema? Voldria fer servir els meus propis "runners", no els
> d'una empresa.

Ara no tinc a mà les passes que vaig fer però va ser molt fàcil:

1. Crear una nova VM amb vagrant
2. Instal·lar-hi docker.
3. Copiar el binari del gitlab-runner a /usr/local/bin
4. Seguir les instruccions oficials per configurar un runner
   sobre docker.

Dit això, desconec què cal per muntar el backend del gitlab CI.

Salut,
Alex

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Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter  wrote:
...
> If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS
> is pretty easy to accomplish.

Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do
you mean taking it for a ride like a new car where one has to learn
new controls in a reliable vehicle, or flying in a local home-built
experimental aircraft?  ;-D

-Tom

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

[rhkramer]

On Friday, April 12, 2019 08:07:07 AM Curt wrote:
> On 2019-04-12, Andy Smith  wrote:
> > Honestly my advice to the OP as suggested what seems like many days
> > ago remains: just take a measure, do a day or two of work, take
> > another measure, check the difference in byte count and extrapolate
> > from there. I'd be amazed if you didn't end up with multiple decades
> > of write headroom.
> 
> No need to even measure.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#SSD_reliability_and_failure
> _modes
> 
>  Device age, measured by days in use, is the main factor in SSD
>  reliability, and not amount of data read or written, which are measured
>  by TBW or DWPD.
> 
> http://0b4af6cdc2f0c5998459-c0245c5c937c5dedcca3f1764ecc9b2f.r43.cf2.rackcd
> n.com/23105-fast16-papers-schroeder.pdf

I read (or skimmed) these the first time you posted them (well, the first one 
might have been a different URL with similar information).  

Unless I missed something, neither one of them addresses 3-D NAND drives, 
which presumably would not do as well.  (Well, they might exceed their 
published TBW figures, but those figures are, iirc, lower than those for SLC or 
MLC).

It looks like I am writing something like 20 GB per day, or something like 8 
TB per year (due to my quick trigger on s).  I plan to test over a 
longer period of time -- right now I am doing a little less writing due to tax 
season.

Re: soluções para vários arquivos copia

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA]

Le 11 avril 2019 14:00:33 GMT-03:00, Vitor Hugo  a 
écrit :
>
>um servidor para armazenar estes arquivos

Samba:

apt install samba


Mas tem de ler pelo menos um tutorial.
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Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Dan Ritter]

Tom Browder wrote: 
> I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
> btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at
> least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.
> 
> Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer,
> non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants
> reasonable reliability?

If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS
is pretty easy to accomplish.

ZFS for root is too difficult to recommend to a casual user
today, but I expect that to change in a version or two.

-dsr-

Re: soluções para vários arquivos copia

[Vitor Hugo]

Na verdade são varios arquivos de varias pessoas e para diferenciar um 
arquivo de outro utilizam o nome do arquivo como o numero do CPF, pois 
este numero é unico; exemplo:

Maria da conceição.docx

José Aparecido.docx

Raul Garcia da Cruz.doc

Então em vez de utilizar o nome da pessoa eles utilizam o numero do CPF 
para não haver conflito de nomes, o grande problema é que são 30 mil 
arquivos e esta crescendo sempre este numero e eles devem ser acessado 
em varias maquinas com terminais windows; eles ja estão windows com 
shadown copy e com um programa de pesquisa de arquivos rodando na 
maquina windows;

O grande problema é que se colocar estes arquivos em um direitorio e 
copiar este direitorio para cada uma das 10 maquinas dara certo porem ao 
abrir um arquivo e fazer a atualização haverá problema pois as outras 
máquinas não teram a atualização deste arquivo, por isso deveria haver 
um servidor para armazenar estes arquivos e as 10 maquinas puxarem deste 
servidor para fazer a edição e salvamento do arquivo direto no servidor.

Em 11/04/2019 13:17, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro escreveu:
> Le mer. 10 avr. 2019 à 11:41, Vitor Hugo  a écrit :
>> Estou com um cenário em que possuo vários arquivos (30 mil arquivos)
> Achei toda a descrição muito confusa.  Até onde entendi, bastava
> colocar um servidor Samba, mas tenho certeza de que entendi errado.
> Poderias explicar melhor para a lista?
>
>

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[David Wright]

On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 10:05:58 (+0200), deloptes wrote:
> Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large
> >> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both
> > 
> > I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging.
> 
> You always want to arge - but tell me how many applications or how much work
> you did and for what time span - what is the grow rate of your windows 10
> partition when using it on daily bases

We have a laptop that was used with windows for just under four
years. Main applications are Office for excel/word/powerpoint,
Outlook for email, Coreldraw for publication figures. Disk usage
is approximately 90GB, of which the user's own files are 45GB,
in a partition of 175GB. The partition was originally 423GB,
but I carved the space for my linux system out of it.

Cheers,
David.

emacs save and kill buffer for (neo)mutt

[Pétùr]

I use neomutt with emacs.

I would like to quickly save and kill a buffer in emacs. This is to
avoid typing C-x C-s and, then, C-x C-c when sending an email. I want
one shortcut to save and kill the buffer and be back quickly in mutt to
send the email.

I tried the following inside my .emacs (binded to C-q). It works but
kill also the window when inside a terminal. I am not going back to mutt
after writing inside emacs (-nw) and C-q. How can I fix that?



;; Kill the current buffer immediatly, saving it if needed.
(defvar kill-save-buffer-delete-windows t
 "*Delete windows when `kill-save-buffer' is used.
If this is non-nil, then `kill-save-buffer' will also delete the corresponding
windows.  This is inverted by `kill-save-buffer' when called with a prefix.")
(defun kill-save-buffer (arg)
 "Save the current buffer (if needed) and then kill it.
Also, delete its windows according to `kill-save-buffer-delete-windows'.
A prefix argument ARG reverses this behavior."
 (interactive "P")
 (let ((del kill-save-buffer-delete-windows))
   (when arg (setq del (not del)))
   (when (and (buffer-file-name) (not (file-directory-p (buffer-file-name
 (save-buffer))
   (let ((buf (current-buffer)))
 (when del (delete-windows-on buf))
 (kill-buffer buf

(global-set-key (kbd "C-q") 'kill-save-buffer)

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New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

[Tom Browder]

I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and
btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at
least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation.

Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer,
non-hobbyiest) user who does backups and values his data and wants
reasonable reliability?

Thanks,

-Tom

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[Dan Purgert]

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> On 2019-04-12 13:31, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Friday 12 April 2019 07:54:57 Dan Ritter wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use
>>> within your house, and now you have names that nobody else will
>>> see.
>>> 
>>> -dsr-
>> 
>> And since I've been doing that since my amiga/dialup  days, I can 
>> testify that it works well.  One of the smartest dogs I ever knew was
>> half coyote, so this has been the coyote.den since the late 90's.
>> [...]
>> 
> maybe there's something I'm not understanding.
> Is your box broadcasting on the internet I know where .den is ask me 
> about it ?

No ".den" is local to Gene's network, and is not accessible to anyone
not on that network.

If he wants to access things from the internet, he'll need an
internet-resolvable domain (e.g. "coyoteden.net").


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New dual-boot laptop with two SSD drives: should I use LVM (and I have no experience with it)?

[Tom Browder]

I've been using Linux for over 20 years, and Debian for over 10, but
I've always used conventonal partitions and /etc/fstab definitions.

Now that I'm getting a virgin, up-to-date laptop, I am considering
ising LVM but want to get the option of expert users: Should I go that
route?

Every thing I read says I should, but my reluctance in the the past
has always been my comfort level with handling disk failures (I've had
my share) and recovery of lost data. Note that most of my disk
failures have been the computer interface and I have been able to read
the "bad" disk from another computer via a USB inteface.

I'm leaning toward using LVM but would appreciate any advice from LVM users.

Thanks.

Best regards,

-Tom

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[Felix Miata]

deloptes composed on 2019-04-12 10:05 (UTC+0200):

> Felix Miata wrote:

>>> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large
>>> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both

>> I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging.

> You always want to arge - but tell me how many applications or how much work
> you did and for what time span - what is the grow rate of your windows 10
> partition when using it on daily bases

Junk accumulates according to the amount of space available for it to fill.

I've never used any version of Windows on a daily basis. It gets used only when
necessary. I'm a FOSS user. I drag the System Restore slider all the way to the
left, 2GB or so. There's no way for me to answer your "grow rate" question. 
YMMV.

>From https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/windows-10-specifications:

"Hard drive space:  16 GB for 32-bit OS 32 GB for 64-bit OS"

## openSUSE 15.0 connected to my TV
# df -h (redacted)
Size  Used Avail Use% Usage
252M   20K  252M   1% WinBoot
9.6G  4.9G  4.3G  54% /
 24G  732M   23G   4% WinData
 47G   19G   29G  39% WinSys
 74G   16G   58G  21% /home
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 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

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Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[Tom Browder]

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 10:01 PM David Christensen
 wrote:

> Which model zareason laptop?
> Which make, model, form factor, and interface 120 GB SSD?
> Which form factor and interface Samsung EVO 860 1 TB SSD?
> How much RAM?
> Make and model WiFi interface?

David, here are the specs on the laptop from the purchase order (I
already have the 1 Tb SSD, specs below):

Laptop
=
UltraLap 6440 i7
Options:
Linux Version:
No operating system
Processor:
i7-8550U
Dual Memory:
8 GB DDR4-2133
Video Card:
Intel UHD 620 (included)
M.2 SSD:
120GB M.2 SSD (included)
2.5:
—
WiFi:
Intel® Wireless AC Dual-Band (2.4/5ghz)
Bluetooth:
(included)
Battery:
6-cell (included)
AC Adapters:
1 (included)
Card Reader:
SD/MMC (included)
Webcam:
HD webcam (included)

Samsung SSD 860 EVO
==
V-NAND SSD
SATA 6 Gb/s
size: 1 Tb
production date: 2019-02-23
5 year limited warranty
bought from Amazon

Best regards,

-Tom

Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Alexandre Goethals]

Ah, super !

J'ai déjà adb, mais je ne trouvais pas les chemins des fichiers
contacts, SMS, etc.

Merci !


Le 12/04/2019 à 15:55, Samy Mezani a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> Le 10/04/2019 à 16:37, Alexandre Goethals a écrit :
> [...]
>> J'en profite pour faire un léger HS: si quelqu'un connaît l'astuce pour
>> récupérer certains éléments, comme les SMS par exemple, du téléphone
>> pour les stocker sur son PC, je suis preneur. Tout ce que j'ai lu à ce
>> sujet sur le web mentionnait des applications tierces, ou des
>> fonctionnalités de sauvegarde d'Android, mais je souhaiterais, m'en
>> passer si c'est possible (j'utilise une version nightly de Lineage OS).
> [...]
> Si tu installes le paquet "adb", tu pourras alors avoir accès et
> récupérer SMS, contacts, etc.
>
> Exemples :
>
> adb pull
> /data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases/contacts2.db $HOME
>
> adb pull
> /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db $HOME
>
> Vérifier les chemins, ils ont peut-être évolué avec les nouvelles
> versions d'Android/LineageOS.
>
> Samy
>

Re: DVD Creation software

[Mark Fletcher]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 12:48:13PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
> 
> 
> I would like to take a set of video files (I have mp4  and am aware they
> need transcoding) and put these on a dvd along with a menu etc, so they
> can be played from VLC or as a normal dvd.
> 
> I did this years ago, it appears the application bombono no longer
> exists (or it is not in the Debian repositories)
> 

I haven't done this for a few years now, but in the early 20-teens, I 
did a _lot_ of this, and I used tovid which is still in the repos at 
least in Stretch.

It has a GUI which is a little buggy if I remember but works. For much 
of my tovid days I used the command line tools, and migrated to the GUI 
towards the end. You can do quite a lot with it -- all you mentioned and 
more. You can get quite sophisticated with the DVD menus and so on if 
you've got the patience.

Back in the day it was supported by a chap who went by the pseudonym 
"grepper", who was extremely helpful. I don't know if he's still 
supporting the tool or not. He was looking for someone to hand it over 
to back in the day, dunno if he ever found someone.

tovid did a way better job than anything else I tried of transcoding 
video for my most common usecase -- that of adjusting the TV format from 
PAL to NTSC. I needed to do this because my British relatives had a 
habit of buying DVDs for my kids in the UK, and we lived in Japan. Back 
in those days dual-TV-format DVD players were a rarity.

Check out tovid and if grepper is still supporting it, tell him I said 
hi!

Mark

Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Samy Mezani]

Bonjour,

Le 10/04/2019 à 16:37, Alexandre Goethals a écrit :
[...]

J'en profite pour faire un léger HS: si quelqu'un connaît l'astuce pour
récupérer certains éléments, comme les SMS par exemple, du téléphone
pour les stocker sur son PC, je suis preneur. Tout ce que j'ai lu à ce
sujet sur le web mentionnait des applications tierces, ou des
fonctionnalités de sauvegarde d'Android, mais je souhaiterais, m'en
passer si c'est possible (j'utilise une version nightly de Lineage OS).

[...]
Si tu installes le paquet "adb", tu pourras alors avoir accès et 
récupérer SMS, contacts, etc.


Exemples :

adb pull 
/data/data/com.android.providers.contacts/databases/contacts2.db $HOME


adb pull /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db 
$HOME


Vérifier les chemins, ils ont peut-être évolué avec les nouvelles 
versions d'Android/LineageOS.


Samy

debian/testing - consoleblank on i386 too short

[Hans]

Hi folks, 

you might remember, I was searching for the reason, that on tty1 -5 the blank 
time 
is too short.

After I checked all the variable, now I believe, it is a bug in the kernel 
itself. As I 
tested with two identical configured systems (one is amd64, the other i386) and 
confirmed all configurations are identical (including 
/etc/console-tools/config), I 
checked 

cat /sys/module/kernel/parameters/consoleblank

On the working system, I got "600" (which is 10 minutes) and the non working 
system I got "60" (which is only 1 minute).

I also tried "consoleblank=600" as kernel parameter, but with no success, just 
as the 
kernel does ignore the setting.

It looks like the kernel itself got the problem, as when setting 
"setterm -blank 60", then it is working until next boot.

The only differnce between both systems is just the kernel.

Ah, and of course I checked the initscript, which is reading from  
/etc/console-tools/config, here also both systems are identical.

Maybe there was a typo in the i386-kernel when built? 60 instead of 600? As far 
as I 
read, the blanktime is hardcoded in the kernel.

The running kernel here is  4.19.0-4-i386.

Would be nice, if someone could confirm my issue before I file a bugreport.

Again: This issue appeares only on my i386-system and appeared suddenly after 
an 
upgrade.

Best regards

Hans




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Re: DVD Creation software

[Paul Sutton]

On 12/04/2019 13:27, Curt wrote:
> On 2019-04-12, Paul Sutton  wrote:
>> DVD authoring, DVD creation are both valid search terms but there  may
>> be better search terms that I will have better luck with.
> Burn, baby, burn?
>
> I stumbled upon this tutorial:
>
> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-burn-dvds-with-devede-and-brasero-on-linux
>
> Both brasero and DeVeDe are available in the Stretch main repositories.
>
> Good luck.
>
Cool thanks.   I already use brassero, to make data disks,  and
sometimes install cd's for Linux, however

devede looks like what I am also looking for.

Paul


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Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[mick crane]

On 2019-04-12 13:31, Gene Heskett wrote:

On Friday 12 April 2019 07:54:57 Dan Ritter wrote:


mick crane wrote:
> I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own
> top level domain.

Nothing. They don't have to.

If you want a top level domain and you control your own
nameservers, you've got it.

But nobody else is likely to query your nameservers about it, so
it won't be used by anyone else.

This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use
within your house, and now you have names that nobody else will
see.

-dsr-


And since I've been doing that since my amiga/dialup  days, I can 
testify

that it works well.  One of the smartest dogs I ever knew was half
coyote, so this has been the coyote.den since the late 90's. Nice
private little now 8 machine network when everything is running, and as
long as I turn the radios off, nobody bothers me.  And vice-versa.
Seems no one has setup a radio login yet a smart phone can't crack in 
30

seconds or less.


maybe there's something I'm not understanding.
Is your box broadcasting on the internet I know where .den is ask me 
about it ?


mick


Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonjour,

Le vendredi 12 avril 2019 à  8:17, Pierre L. a écrit :
> j'ai ce souvenir aigre de n'avoir la possibilité de créer qu'un seul
> calendrier par compte d’utilisateur via Radicale, c'est toujours le cas
> ? (juste pas curiosité au passage !)
> Ou peut-être était-ce une limitation sur l'instance testée à cette époque ?

J’ai plusieurs carnets d’adresses et plusieurs agenda par utilisateur sur mon
serveur Radicale. Ça fonctionne très bien.

Sébastien

Re: Error Message

[Curt]

On 2019-04-11, Mark Fletcher  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 07:03:08PM +0200, Michael Lee wrote:
>> Hello, I would like to know what I am supposed to do about this error
>> message. Would appreciate guidance.
>> M Lee
>
>> The repository 'http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stretch/updates
 
It seems (after taking a quick gander) that that should be 'stretch-updates',
not stretch/updates (which doesn't exist).

Maybe this explains that (as they say here in French).

>
> Looking at the error message (the English part, I can't read the German) 
> I suspect the issue is the second part of the message, and the first 
> part complaining that ftp.de.debian.org doesn't have a Release file is 
> a red herring. It looks like ownership or permissions on your 
> /etc/apt/trusted.gpg file are dodgy. Have a look at ownership and 
> permissions on that file and, if it's not obvious to you what's wrong, 
> post here the output of ls -l /etc/apt/trusted.gpg and hopefully it will 
> be obvious to someone on here.
>
> Have you been making changes to your apt configuration recently? If you 
> have done anything in that area recently, describe that too as that may 
> have a bearing on the problem.
>
> HTH
>
> Mark
>
>


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which we turn about in our fingers. Let us pretend that we can make out a plain
and logical story, so that when one matter is despatched--love for instance--
we go on, in an orderly manner, to the next.” - Virginia Woolf, The Waves

Re: Debugging samba

[Kevin DAGNEAUX]

DAGNEAUX Kevin
Service informatique
03 29 36 88 85
kevin.dagne...@fiitelcom.fr

Le 12/04/2019 à 12:11, deloptes a écrit :

Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:


[2019/04/12 10:31:57.105329,  0]
../source3/locking/posix.c:455(decrement_lock_ref_count)
PANIC: assert failed at ../source3/locking/posix.c(455):
lock_ref_count >= 0
[2019/04/12 10:31:57.105373,  0] ../source3/lib/util.c:791(smb_panic_s3)
PANIC (pid 2206): assert failed: lock_ref_count >= 0
[2019/04/12 10:31:57.106329,  0]
[../source3/lib/util.c:902(log_stack_trace)
BACKTRACE: 29 stack frames:
#0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsmbconf.so.0(log_stack_trace+0x1c)
[0x7f9e6a6a6c0c]

google tells me many similar issues

https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13650
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13558
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13443
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439
https://www.ixsystems.com/community/threads/samba-panic-assert-failed-lock_ref_count-0.55140/

which kernel do you have?

The bug id 13439 give me an interesting info (about kernel / glibc). 
I'll follow this thread to see if a solution will be added.


I'm running kernel 4.9.144-3.1 (from debian repo)

Kevin

<>

Re: putty go slow

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:25:00 AM rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Oh, I should have mentioned that the switches I use are 10/100 megabit, not
> gigabit.
> 
> (I'm not sure, but the switch built into my Edge Router might be Gigabit,
> but that device was closer to $50 (on sale, I'm fairly sure, although I
> bought it at a time when I was having problems with my LAN, so may have
> paid closer to list price).)

Hmm, I hope this doesn't violate the policies of the debian user list -- I 
guess I'll find out soon enough ;-)

Oh, as a data point, today I see a 5-port Gigabit switch on sale for $9.95 
with free shipping.  (If you go to the URL, you will see the price as $14.95 
-- to get the $9.95 price, you have to subscribe to their mail list and then 
you will get a promo code that gives another $5 off.

The sale ends on Sunday (not sure of the exact time).

If i was going to buy one and not yet a subscriber, I'd subscribe, and then 
call them, explain that you have just subscribed, and ask for the promo code 
for this item (and possibly even placing the order while on the phone -- I 
usually buy "online").

(If you subscribe to their mail list, you will occasionally get advertisements 
with promo codes (for various items).)

Disclaimer, I have no affiliation with Newegg, and get renumeration for any of 
this.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704042_medium=Email_source=IGNEFL041219_mmc=EMC-
IGNEFL041219-_-EMC-041219-Index-_-Switches-_-33704042-S0G=1

Re: midori sous xdm et twm : message sécuté inconnue agaçant !

[ajh-valmer]

On Friday 12 April 2019 14:19:30 olivier.platus wrote:
> Salut à tous.
> Je suis sous debian stretch 9.8 et lorsque je navigue sous midori, il me
> demande sans cesse de "faire confiance à ce site" dans la fenêtre "sécurité
> inconnue ... L'autorité de signature de certificat est inconnue." lorsque je
> souhaite aller sur un nouveau site.
> J'ai auparavant lu les faqs de l'onglet "Aide" concernant la partie
> "security features" et en ai conclu qu'il fallait que je mette la ligne
> "gnome-keyring-daemon -start" dans mon fichier ".xsessionrc" des options de
> démarrage pour "xdm" et "twm".
> Aussi  comment éviter de devoir toujours manuellement autoriser "la
> confiance" aux nouveaux sites visités par midori ?
> Est-ce parce que je ne suis pas sous le bureau gnome ou faut-il configurer
> autre chose ? Merci pour l'aide.

S'agit-il de sites https ou http ?

Re: midori sous xdm et twm : message sécuté inconnue agaçant !

[Alexandre Goethals]

Bonjour,

est-ce que cela se produit sur tous les sites, y compris les "gros"
(style Wikipedia, youtube.com, bref, le top10 Alexa) ?

Ou seulement sur quelques sites identifiés ?

Dans le deuxième cas de figure, il faudrait afficher le certificat SSL
du ou des site(s) en question, afin de connaître l'autorité de
certification associée.

Je n'utilise pas midori (à part sur quelques stations qui servent juste
à afficher une page en continu sur un écran TV), mais dans les
paramètres Firefox par exemple, on peut modifier la confiance accordée
aux différentes autorités de certifications (about:preferences#privacy
-> Certificats -> Afficher les certificats -> Autorités -> Modifier la
confiance). Ainsi, tous les sites utilisant un certificat SSL délivré
par une autorité en laquelle le navigateur fait confiance, ne
présenteront plus ce problème.

Je suppose qu'on peut faire la même chose avec midori, d'une façon ou
d'une autre.

Le 12/04/2019 à 14:19, olivier.platus a écrit :
> Salut à tous.
> Je suis sous debian stretch 9.8 et lorsque je navigue sous midori, il me
> demande sans cesse de "faire confiance à ce site" dans la fenêtre "sécurité
> inconnue ... L'autorité de signature de certificat est inconnue." lorsque je
> souhaite aller sur un nouveau site.
> J'ai auparavant lu les faqs de l'onglet "Aide" concernant la partie
> "security features" et en ai conclu qu'il fallait que je mette la ligne
> "gnome-keyring-daemon -start" dans mon fichier ".xsessionrc" des options de
> démarrage pour "xdm" et "twm".
> Aussi  comment éviter de devoir toujours manuellement autoriser "la
> confiance" aux nouveaux sites visités par midori ?
> Est-ce parce que je ne suis pas sous le bureau gnome ou faut-il configurer
> autre chose ?
> Merci pour l'aide.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/debian-user-french-f1152225.html
>

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 12 April 2019 07:54:57 Dan Ritter wrote:

> mick crane wrote:
> > I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own
> > top level domain.
>
> Nothing. They don't have to.
>
> If you want a top level domain and you control your own
> nameservers, you've got it.
>
> But nobody else is likely to query your nameservers about it, so
> it won't be used by anyone else.
>
> This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use
> within your house, and now you have names that nobody else will
> see.
>
> -dsr-

And since I've been doing that since my amiga/dialup  days, I can testify 
that it works well.  One of the smartest dogs I ever knew was half 
coyote, so this has been the coyote.den since the late 90's. Nice 
private little now 8 machine network when everything is running, and as 
long as I turn the radios off, nobody bothers me.  And vice-versa.  
Seems no one has setup a radio login yet a smart phone can't crack in 30 
seconds or less.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: DVD Creation software

[Curt]

On 2019-04-12, Paul Sutton  wrote:
>
> DVD authoring, DVD creation are both valid search terms but there  may
> be better search terms that I will have better luck with.

Burn, baby, burn?

I stumbled upon this tutorial:

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-burn-dvds-with-devede-and-brasero-on-linux

Both brasero and DeVeDe are available in the Stretch main repositories.

Good luck.

> One such search has yielded
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/07/msg00279.html
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/07/msg00279.html
>
> which seems to relate to Debian 3.1 so rather out of date.
>
> Thanks for any help
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
>


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which we turn about in our fingers. Let us pretend that we can make out a plain
and logical story, so that when one matter is despatched--love for instance--
we go on, in an orderly manner, to the next.” - Virginia Woolf, The Waves

midori sous xdm et twm : message sécuté inconnue agaçant !

[olivier.platus]

Salut à tous.
Je suis sous debian stretch 9.8 et lorsque je navigue sous midori, il me
demande sans cesse de "faire confiance à ce site" dans la fenêtre "sécurité
inconnue ... L'autorité de signature de certificat est inconnue." lorsque je
souhaite aller sur un nouveau site.
J'ai auparavant lu les faqs de l'onglet "Aide" concernant la partie
"security features" et en ai conclu qu'il fallait que je mette la ligne
"gnome-keyring-daemon -start" dans mon fichier ".xsessionrc" des options de
démarrage pour "xdm" et "twm".
Aussi  comment éviter de devoir toujours manuellement autoriser "la
confiance" aux nouveaux sites visités par midori ?
Est-ce parce que je ne suis pas sous le bureau gnome ou faut-il configurer
autre chose ?
Merci pour l'aide.




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Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 10:07:04AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> 
> > Why not ? Current versions support GPT.
> 
> Thank you my fault - I have missed something

It changed after wheezy.

Wheezy's man page says:

   fdisk  does  not  understand GUID partition tables (GPTs) and it is not
   designed for large partitions.  In these cases, use the  more  advanced
   GNU parted(8).

Jessie's man page says:

   fdisk  is a dialog-driven program for creation and manipulation of par‐
   tition tables.  It understands GPT, MBR, Sun,  SGI  and  BSD  partition
   tables.

A lot of people are still using cached knowledge from pre-jessie days.

Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

[Curt]

On 2019-04-12, Andy Smith  wrote:
>
> Honestly my advice to the OP as suggested what seems like many days
> ago remains: just take a measure, do a day or two of work, take
> another measure, check the difference in byte count and extrapolate
> from there. I'd be amazed if you didn't end up with multiple decades
> of write headroom.

No need to even measure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#SSD_reliability_and_failure_modes

 Device age, measured by days in use, is the main factor in SSD
 reliability, and not amount of data read or written, which are measured
 by TBW or DWPD.

http://0b4af6cdc2f0c5998459-c0245c5c937c5dedcca3f1764ecc9b2f.r43.cf2.rackcdn.com/23105-fast16-papers-schroeder.pdf

The goose has been wild from the beginning, and the air, hot.

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[Dan Ritter]

mick crane wrote: 
> I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top level
> domain.

Nothing. They don't have to.

If you want a top level domain and you control your own
nameservers, you've got it.

But nobody else is likely to query your nameservers about it, so
it won't be used by anyone else.

This can actually be useful: you can define .crane for use
within your house, and now you have names that nobody else will
see.

-dsr-

DVD Creation software

[Paul Sutton]

Hi


I would like to take a set of video files (I have mp4  and am aware they
need transcoding) and put these on a dvd along with a menu etc, so they
can be played from VLC or as a normal dvd.

I did this years ago, it appears the application bombono no longer
exists (or it is not in the Debian repositories)

The website at

https://www.linux.com/news/quick-guide-dvd-authoring

seems to have a few suggestions. which again I can't seem to find in the
repositories.  Some however also appear not to work, or at least from
the article authors experience.

Just wondered if anyone had some experience here and could suggest
something please (it may help others too).  Ideally, I am looking for a
gui tool for this.  However the transcoding can be done on the command
line if need be.

Failing that what exactly should I search for in ddg

DVD authoring, DVD creation are both valid search terms but there  may
be better search terms that I will have better luck with.

One such search has yielded

https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/07/msg00279.html

https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/07/msg00279.html

which seems to relate to Debian 3.1 so rather out of date.

Thanks for any help

Regards

Paul


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Re: cle usb multiboot

[olivier.platus]

Merci de m'avoir répondu.
J'ai lance h2testw1_4 et il m'indique beaucoup de mauvaises choses.
Une clé si peu chère  ... pas étonnant (mauvaise fabrication et on la vend à
très bas prix pour éviter les pertes).
J'ai envoyé un email au sav de cdiscount et verrai bien la suite.
Je vais poster une question sur midori car la version sous debian stretch
9.8 m'agace un peu malgré la lecture des faqs.



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Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[Dan Purgert]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-04-12 10:57, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> mick crane wrote:
>>> On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote:
 On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
>> I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the
>> ipaddress
>> but the service has to be on the ISP's router ?
>> Do I understand correctly then when your isp/home address changes
>> your box
>> broadcasts its domain new address to the internet ?
> 
> It doesn't have to be on the router.  You can set up a hook in 
> Debian
> to run an arbitrary command whenever your IP address is changed by
> DHCP.
> This hook receives the old and new IP addresses, and some other
> things,
> as environment variables.  It's about 3 lines of code to set it up.
> No
> parsing of the output of any ip or ifconfig command is needed.
> 
> https://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress
 
 I'll have a read but there must be something I don't understand.
 Thought there was a hierarchy of domain names mapped to ipaddresses
 that all the different servers can query as to where something is.
>>> 
>>> Ok I think I see, you can host your own domain if you have a fixed
>>> ipaddress but if have ipaddress that changes need to register domain
>>> name and have company host it and advertise they know where it is but
>>> can change the nameservers for the domain from theirs to yours at
>>> changed ipaddress.
>>> You can't willy nilly broadcast any domain to the internet yourself.
>> 
>> Well, once your domain is registered (for example, mine), you can 
>> either
>> 
>> 
>>   1. give your registrar the IP address they should point the domain 
>> to.
>>   This is easiest with static IP address assignments from your ISP,
>>   but there's no reason you couldn't do it on a dynamic IP
>> 
>>   OR
>> 
>>   2. Use a dynamic DNS provider (e.g. dyndns, no-ip, afraid, many
>>   others), and have them automatically update the DNS registration
>>   when your IP address changes.
>> 
>> Note that for option 2, you tell your registrar to use those other
>> nameservers, rather than their own.
>> 
>> I use option 2 myself, registered via ... oh I think 1&1 ... but using
>> no-ip to provide my dyndns (although the IP hasn't changed in well over
>> a year - I still don't want to be caught unawares :) )
>
> I thought those dynamic dns services offered a sub domain of their own 
> domains.

Yes, that's for the freebie service (where offered).  I think it's
$14.95 for the year from no-ip service for my domain.

> Can you have any registered domain point to dynamic dns servers and them 
> redirect it ?

If it's yours, and you're paying enough to the service.

> I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top 
> level domain.

They can't; at least not publicly.  There's a hierarchy to DNS servers,
and, well, it'd take some doing to supplant the root servers.

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Re: GPT partions: capability for user friendly labels on partitions for all OSs?

[Tom Browder]

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 14:34 Felix Miata  wrote:

> Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-11 08:42 (UTC-0500):
>
...

> > Does GPT partitioning on Windows 10 allow a user-friendly label along
> with
> > its UUID for a partition?
>
> > If so, is that label visible with Debian system administration programs
> as
> > well?


Thanks, Felix.

-Tom

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[mick crane]

On 2019-04-12 10:57, Dan Purgert wrote:

mick crane wrote:

On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote:

On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote:

I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the
ipaddress
but the service has to be on the ISP's router ?
Do I understand correctly then when your isp/home address changes
your box
broadcasts its domain new address to the internet ?


It doesn't have to be on the router.  You can set up a hook in 
Debian

to run an arbitrary command whenever your IP address is changed by
DHCP.
This hook receives the old and new IP addresses, and some other
things,
as environment variables.  It's about 3 lines of code to set it up.
No
parsing of the output of any ip or ifconfig command is needed.

https://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress


I'll have a read but there must be something I don't understand.
Thought there was a hierarchy of domain names mapped to ipaddresses
that all the different servers can query as to where something is.


Ok I think I see, you can host your own domain if you have a fixed
ipaddress but if have ipaddress that changes need to register domain
name and have company host it and advertise they know where it is but
can change the nameservers for the domain from theirs to yours at
changed ipaddress.
You can't willy nilly broadcast any domain to the internet yourself.


Well, once your domain is registered (for example, mine), you can 
either



  1. give your registrar the IP address they should point the domain 
to.

  This is easiest with static IP address assignments from your ISP,
  but there's no reason you couldn't do it on a dynamic IP

  OR

  2. Use a dynamic DNS provider (e.g. dyndns, no-ip, afraid, many
  others), and have them automatically update the DNS registration
  when your IP address changes.

Note that for option 2, you tell your registrar to use those other
nameservers, rather than their own.

I use option 2 myself, registered via ... oh I think 1&1 ... but using
no-ip to provide my dyndns (although the IP hasn't changed in well over
a year - I still don't want to be caught unawares :) )


I thought those dynamic dns services offered a sub domain of their own 
domains.
Can you have any registered domain point to dynamic dns servers and them 
redirect it ?
I have wondered what they do to stop people broadcasting their own top 
level domain.

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Re: Debugging samba

[deloptes]

Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:

> [2019/04/12 10:31:57.105329,  0]
> ../source3/locking/posix.c:455(decrement_lock_ref_count)
> PANIC: assert failed at ../source3/locking/posix.c(455):
> lock_ref_count >= 0
> [2019/04/12 10:31:57.105373,  0] ../source3/lib/util.c:791(smb_panic_s3)
> PANIC (pid 2206): assert failed: lock_ref_count >= 0
> [2019/04/12 10:31:57.106329,  0]
> [../source3/lib/util.c:902(log_stack_trace)
> BACKTRACE: 29 stack frames:
> #0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsmbconf.so.0(log_stack_trace+0x1c)
> [0x7f9e6a6a6c0c]

google tells me many similar issues

https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13650
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13558
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13443
https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13439
https://www.ixsystems.com/community/threads/samba-panic-assert-failed-lock_ref_count-0.55140/

which kernel do you have?

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[Dan Purgert]

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mick crane wrote:
> On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote:
>> On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
 I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the 
 ipaddress
 but the service has to be on the ISP's router ?
 Do I understand correctly then when your isp/home address changes 
 your box
 broadcasts its domain new address to the internet ?
>>> 
>>> It doesn't have to be on the router.  You can set up a hook in Debian
>>> to run an arbitrary command whenever your IP address is changed by 
>>> DHCP.
>>> This hook receives the old and new IP addresses, and some other 
>>> things,
>>> as environment variables.  It's about 3 lines of code to set it up.  
>>> No
>>> parsing of the output of any ip or ifconfig command is needed.
>>> 
>>> https://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress
>> 
>> I'll have a read but there must be something I don't understand.
>> Thought there was a hierarchy of domain names mapped to ipaddresses
>> that all the different servers can query as to where something is.
>
> Ok I think I see, you can host your own domain if you have a fixed 
> ipaddress but if have ipaddress that changes need to register domain 
> name and have company host it and advertise they know where it is but 
> can change the nameservers for the domain from theirs to yours at 
> changed ipaddress.
> You can't willy nilly broadcast any domain to the internet yourself.

Well, once your domain is registered (for example, mine), you can either


  1. give your registrar the IP address they should point the domain to.
  This is easiest with static IP address assignments from your ISP, 
  but there's no reason you couldn't do it on a dynamic IP

  OR

  2. Use a dynamic DNS provider (e.g. dyndns, no-ip, afraid, many
  others), and have them automatically update the DNS registration
  when your IP address changes.  

Note that for option 2, you tell your registrar to use those other
nameservers, rather than their own.

I use option 2 myself, registered via ... oh I think 1&1 ... but using
no-ip to provide my dyndns (although the IP hasn't changed in well over
a year - I still don't want to be caught unawares :) )


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Re: Measuring (or calculating) how many bytes are actually written to disk when I repeatedly save a file

[Andy Smith]

Hello,

On Mon, Apr 08, 2019 at 01:32:48PM -, Curt wrote:
> How about:
> 
>  Subject: SSD for frequent edits of large text files?

It's really hard for me to imagine any form of human editing of a
text file that could wear out a modern SSD. Natural language text
files just aren't that big, and human fingers and brains just don't
operate that fast.

To wear these things out you need multiple users, vast numbers of
small writes (because the erase size of an SSD is typically 1MiB or
more, so at minimum it writes that every time), things of that
nature. One person revising their memoirs for example is not going
to hit it, even if they are as loquacious and capricious as Richard
Owlett avoiding giving a direct answer to a reasonable question.

Honestly my advice to the OP as suggested what seems like many days
ago remains: just take a measure, do a day or two of work, take
another measure, check the difference in byte count and extrapolate
from there. I'd be amazed if you didn't end up with multiple decades
of write headroom.

Too much has been written here on this subject without actual
testing of the realities. We can debate forever how many angels can
dance on the head of a pin, but in this case both the pin and the
angels are extremely easy to quantify as they come with spec sheets
and SMART attributes. Perhaps it is an attempt to exhaust our
brains' collective write endurance.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [Hors sujet] recherche espace de stockage de documents

[cyrille]

un service de stockage? Ou bien tu es prêt à installer un serveur?

Dans le second cas, nextcloud est vraiment bien

Cyrille


Bernard Schoenacker – Fri, 12. April 2019 9:39
> bonjour,
> 
> je recherche un espace de stockage en ligne pour 
> des documents ...
> 
> quelles sont les solutions ?
> 
> merci
> slt
> bernard

Re: exim4 smtp-auth

[rlharris]

On 2019.04.12 03:51, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

/etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples:


Thanks for pointing me to the examples file, Tomas; that is one source I 
missed.  I printed out that file and I shall go over it in the morning 
after I catch a bit of sleep.


RLH

Re: exim4 smtp-auth

[tomas]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 03:31:13AM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote:
> For SMTP-AUTH in exim4, the authorization string saved in
> /etc/exim4/passwd.client is of the form:
> 
> smarthost.isp.net:login_identification:password
> 
> with the colon character (:) being the delimiter.
> 
> Can this scheme work with a password which itself contains a colon,
> such as:
> 
> this:is:my:password
> 
> by quoting the password:
> 
> smarthost.isp.net:login_identification:'this:is:my:password'

I'd guess that the whole thing gets split at the first colon, the rest
being the password -- cf. for example, in 
/etc/exim4/conf.d/auth/30_exim4-config_examples:

  client_secret = 
${extract{2}{:}{${lookup{$host}nwildlsearch{CONFDIR/passwd.client}{$value}fail}}}

That would mean: the quotes would be part of your password,
probably not what you want.

So I'd try without quotes first.

Cheers
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Re: Debugging samba

[Kevin DAGNEAUX]

Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:


I'm using samba for lot of years too, i'm having trouble only with the
last version from debian repo.


Which debian version and which samba version - perhaps I missed this.


When crashing, samba don't need to be restarted and windows client just
see a small freeze.

Log file talk about a lock problem on a directory that have never
existed, in log file i don't have any info about which IP trying to
access to this directory, that why a i try a debug to see if i've more
info about thoses access.


Then enable logging per machine ID.


Maybe you don't have any problem because samba panic script can't send
you a mail.

I definitely do not have any problem, but can you share the crash report -
perhaps I am wrong

I have installed
  cat /etc/debian_version
9.8
$ dpkg -l | grep samba
ii  python-samba   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64
Python bindings for Samba
ii  samba  2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64
SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix
ii  samba-common   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1all
common files used by both the Samba server and client
ii  samba-common-bin   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64
Samba common files used by both the server and the client
ii  samba-dsdb-modules 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64
Samba Directory Services Database
ii  samba-libs:amd64   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64
Samba core libraries
ii  samba-vfs-modules  2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64
Samba Virtual FileSystem plugins




$ cat /etc/debian_version
9.8

$ dpkg -l | grep samba
ii  python-samba 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 amd64    Python 
bindings for Samba
ii  samba 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 amd64    SMB/CIFS file, 
print, and login server for Unix
ii  samba-common 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 all  common 
files used by both the Samba server and client
ii  samba-common-bin 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 amd64    
Samba common files used by both the server and the client
ii  samba-dsdb-modules 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 amd64    
Samba Directory Services Database
ii  samba-libs:amd64 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 amd64    
Samba core libraries
ii  samba-vfs-modules 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 amd64    
Samba Virtual FileSystem plugins


Per machin log file is enabled (using the default setting "log file = 
/var/log/samba/log.%m"), so log file that contain error is /var/log/log. 
(machin seems not identified by samba).


Here is the content of log file :


[2019/04/12 10:31:57.105329,  0] 
../source3/locking/posix.c:455(decrement_lock_ref_count)
  PANIC: assert failed at ../source3/locking/posix.c(455): 
lock_ref_count >= 0

[2019/04/12 10:31:57.105373,  0] ../source3/lib/util.c:791(smb_panic_s3)
  PANIC (pid 2206): assert failed: lock_ref_count >= 0
[2019/04/12 10:31:57.106329,  0] ../source3/lib/util.c:902(log_stack_trace)
  BACKTRACE: 29 stack frames:
   #0 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsmbconf.so.0(log_stack_trace+0x1c) 
[0x7f9e6a6a6c0c]
   #1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsmbconf.so.0(smb_panic_s3+0x20) 
[0x7f9e6a6a6ce0]
   #2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsamba-util.so.0(smb_panic+0x2f) 
[0x7f9e6cbc319f]
   #3 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(+0x194740) 
[0x7f9e6c7f8740]
   #4 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(+0x19493f) 
[0x7f9e6c7f893f]
   #5 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(release_posix_lock_posix_flavour+0x1fc) 
[0x7f9e6c7faadc]
   #6 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(brl_unlock+0x566) 
[0x7f9e6c7f6bb6]
   #7 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(do_unlock+0xce) 
[0x7f9e6c7f29ce]
   #8 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(smbd_do_setfilepathinfo+0x1b60) 
[0x7f9e6c75b2a0]
   #9 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(+0xf8dbb) 
[0x7f9e6c75cdbb]
   #10 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(reply_trans2+0x645) 
[0x7f9e6c75f695]
   #11 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(+0x123086) 
[0x7f9e6c787086]
   #12 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(+0x1254ba) 
[0x7f9e6c7894ba]
   #13 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(+0x1264ac) 
[0x7f9e6c78a4ac]

   #14 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtevent.so.0(+0xaea3) [0x7f9e692e7ea3]
   #15 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtevent.so.0(+0x9277) [0x7f9e692e6277]
   #16 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtevent.so.0(_tevent_loop_once+0x9d) 
[0x7f9e692e204d]
   #17 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtevent.so.0(tevent_common_loop_wait+0x1b) 
[0x7f9e692e227b]

   #18 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtevent.so.0(+0x9217) [0x7f9e692e6217]
   #19 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libsmbd-base.so.0(smbd_process+0x6c9) 
[0x7f9e6c78b7d9]

   #20 /usr/sbin/smbd(+0xa7b4) [0x5583043b67b4]
   #21 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtevent.so.0(+0xaea3) [0x7f9e692e7ea3]
   #22 

INFO: task blocked for more than 120 seconds

[steve]

Bonjour à tous,

Depuis que j'ai changé de machine, j'ai des problèmes de freeze
intempestifs. Mais tout n'est pas gelé. Un 'ls' gèle alors que d'autres
processus fonctionne normalement. La souris n'est pas touchée ni le
clavier. Dans les logs, j'ai ça:

  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692306] INFO: task md1_raid1:406 blocked for more than 120 seconds.   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692314]   Tainted: P   OE 4.19.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.16-1~bpo9+1 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692316] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692320] md1_raid1   D0   406  2 0x8000
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692324] Call Trace:   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692337]  ? __schedule+0x3f5/0x880 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692342]  schedule+0x32/0x80   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692356]  md_super_wait+0x6e/0xa0 [md_mod] 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692365]  ? remove_wait_queue+0x60/0x60
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692373]  md_update_sb.part.61+0x4af/0x910 [md_mod]
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692381]  md_check_recovery+0x312/0x530 [md_mod]   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692388]  raid1d+0x60/0x8c0 [raid1]
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692394]  ? schedule+0x32/0x80 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692398]  ? schedule_timeout+0x1e5/0x350   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692405]  ? md_thread+0x125/0x170 [md_mod] 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692411]  md_thread+0x125/0x170 [md_mod]   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692416]  ? remove_wait_queue+0x60/0x60
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692420]  kthread+0xf8/0x130   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692427]  ? md_rdev_init+0xc0/0xc0 [md_mod]
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692430]  ? kthread_create_worker_on_cpu+0x70/0x70 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692433]  ret_from_fork+0x35/0x40  
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692438] INFO: task md0_raid1:411 blocked for more than 120 seconds.   
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692441]   Tainted: P   OE 4.19.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.16-1~bpo9+1 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692443] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692446] md0_raid1   D0   411  2 0x8000
[...]
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692539] INFO: task jbd2/md0-8:985 blocked for more than 120 seconds.  
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692542]   Tainted: P   OE 4.19.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.16-1~bpo9+1 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692544] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692546] jbd2/md0-8  D0   985  2 0x8000
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692549] Call Trace:   
[...]
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692730] INFO: task jbd2/md1-8:994 blocked for more than 120 seconds.  
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692733]   Tainted: P   OE 4.19.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.16-1~bpo9+1 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692735] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692737] jbd2/md1-8  D0   994  2 0x8000
[...]
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692896] INFO: task uptimed:1161 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692899]   Tainted: P   OE 4.19.0-0.bpo.2-amd64 #1 Debian 4.19.16-1~bpo9+1 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692901] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs" disables this message. 
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692904] uptimed D0  1161  1 0x0080
  1 box kernel: [ 3988.692906] Call Trace:   

Re: [Hors sujet] recherche espace de stockage de documents

[Bernardo]

Bonjour,

Perso j'adhère à https://www.zaclys.com
10Go de stockage pour 10€ par an.

(Pub gratos ;o)

Le 12/04/2019 à 09:39, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> bonjour,
> 
> je recherche un espace de stockage en ligne pour 
> des documents ...
> 
> quelles sont les solutions ?
> 
> merci
> slt
> bernard
> 
> 

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exim4 smtp-auth

[rlharris]

For SMTP-AUTH in exim4, the authorization string saved in
/etc/exim4/passwd.client is of the form:

smarthost.isp.net:login_identification:password

with the colon character (:) being the delimiter.

Can this scheme work with a password which itself contains a colon,
such as:

this:is:my:password

by quoting the password:

smarthost.isp.net:login_identification:'this:is:my:password'

Re: Debugging samba

[deloptes]

Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:

> I'm using samba for lot of years too, i'm having trouble only with the
> last version from debian repo.
> 

Which debian version and which samba version - perhaps I missed this.

> When crashing, samba don't need to be restarted and windows client just
> see a small freeze.
> 
> Log file talk about a lock problem on a directory that have never
> existed, in log file i don't have any info about which IP trying to
> access to this directory, that why a i try a debug to see if i've more
> info about thoses access.
> 

Then enable logging per machine ID.

> Maybe you don't have any problem because samba panic script can't send
> you a mail.

I definitely do not have any problem, but can you share the crash report -
perhaps I am wrong

I have installed
 cat /etc/debian_version
9.8
$ dpkg -l | grep samba
ii  python-samba   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64 
  
Python bindings for Samba
ii  samba  2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64 
  
SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix
ii  samba-common   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1all   
  
common files used by both the Samba server and client
ii  samba-common-bin   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64 
  
Samba common files used by both the server and the client
ii  samba-dsdb-modules 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64 
  
Samba Directory Services Database
ii  samba-libs:amd64   2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64 
  
Samba core libraries
ii  samba-vfs-modules  2:4.5.16+dfsg-1amd64 
  
Samba Virtual FileSystem plugins

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[deloptes]

Pascal Hambourg wrote:

> Why not ? Current versions support GPT.

Thank you my fault - I have missed something

Re: New dual boot laptop: Best file system for a USB live image for installation?

[deloptes]

Felix Miata wrote:

>> No Win10 will not be happy with 120GB - better take 300GB from the large
>> disk for windows and the rest for data linux, windows or both
> 
> I limit Win10 system partitions to 48GB, and disable paging.

You always want to arge - but tell me how many applications or how much work
you did and for what time span - what is the grow rate of your windows 10
partition when using it on daily bases

Re: [Hors sujet] recherche espace de stockage de documents

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: cyri...@bollu.be
> À: "debian" , "Bernard Schoenacker" 
> 
> Envoyé: Vendredi 12 Avril 2019 09:48:54
> Objet: Re: [Hors sujet] recherche espace de stockage de documents
> 
> un service de stockage? Ou bien tu es prêt à installer un serveur?
> 
> Dans le second cas, nextcloud est vraiment bien
> 
> Cyrille

bonjour,

je recherche un endroit où je peut stocker des documents & co
dans les nuages ...

désolé, mais ce n'est pas pour moi

merci
slt
bernard

Re: terminal with right-click = paste?

[tomas]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 01:56:36AM -0400, Lee wrote:

[...]

> As for upper/lower case - I dunno.  I copied from the example in the
> man page but I just did a quick search & it has
> 
> NOTE: some resource files use patterns such as
> *font: fixed
> which are overly broad, affecting both
> xterm.vt100.font
> and
> xterm.vt100.utf8Fonts.font
> which is probably not what you intended.
> 
> so I don't know if case is significant or no

Typically, an object (application, widget within an app, etc.) has
a lower-case name, where object classes have an upper case name.

The result is that it often doesn't matter whether you target an
object or its whole class in the resource specification.

A good primer (with links) is in the Wikipedia [1]

Cheers
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_resources
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Re: soluções para vários arquivos copia

[Vitor Hugo]

Onde esta confuso?

Em 11/04/2019 14:01, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA escreveu:
> Le jeudi 11 avril 2019 à 16:57 +, Vitor Hugo a écrit :
>> deveria haver um servidor para armazenar estes arquivos e as 10
>> maquinas puxarem deste servidor para fazer a edição e salvamento do
>> arquivo direto no servidor
> Continua confuso, mas parece que basta um servidor de arquivos Samba.
> Estuda-o um pouco e testa, depois relata o resultado — na lista.
>
>
>

Re: Simple Linux to Linux(Debian) email

[mick crane]

On 2019-04-11 17:16, mick crane wrote:

On 2019-04-11 17:05, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 05:02:46PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
I think that is what dynamic ip address services do, change the 
ipaddress

but the service has to be on the ISP's router ?
Do I understand correctly then when your isp/home address changes 
your box

broadcasts its domain new address to the internet ?


It doesn't have to be on the router.  You can set up a hook in Debian
to run an arbitrary command whenever your IP address is changed by 
DHCP.
This hook receives the old and new IP addresses, and some other 
things,
as environment variables.  It's about 3 lines of code to set it up.  
No

parsing of the output of any ip or ifconfig command is needed.

https://mywiki.wooledge.org/IpAddress


I'll have a read but there must be something I don't understand.
Thought there was a hierarchy of domain names mapped to ipaddresses
that all the different servers can query as to where something is.


Ok I think I see, you can host your own domain if you have a fixed 
ipaddress but if have ipaddress that changes need to register domain 
name and have company host it and advertise they know where it is but 
can change the nameservers for the domain from theirs to yours at 
changed ipaddress.

You can't willy nilly broadcast any domain to the internet yourself.






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[Hors sujet] recherche espace de stockage de documents

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,

je recherche un espace de stockage en ligne pour 
des documents ...

quelles sont les solutions ?

merci
slt
bernard

Re: DisplayPort y Nvidia GTX1050

[David]

 Hola Debianitas:Es que HDMI llega hasta 60 Hz y el DisplayPort y la Nvidia GTX 
1050 llegan sin problemas a los 144 Hz que tiene el monitor y es una pena poner 
a 60 Hz un monitor de 144 Hz, es por aprovechar el hardware y no infrautilizar 
ni la GTX 1050 ni el monitor  
asuspg248q ¿alguien ha instalado Debian mediante DisplayPort y con una GTX 1050?

Un saludo   David

En jueves, 11 de abril de 2019 19:50:45 CEST, Deiby Herrera 
 escribió:  
 
 hadmi no da problemas...pero no tienes otra opcion digo.

El jue., 11 de abr. de 2019 a la(s) 04:31, David (dreyes...@yahoo.es) escribió:

 Hola Debianitas:
Me voy a comprar un ordenador de sobremesa con este monitor Asus PG248Q 24" LED 
3D y esta tarjeta gráfica VGA ASUS NVIDIA GTX1050-O2G 2GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI 
DISPLAY PORT ¿puede haber problemas al conectar el monitor con la Tarjeta 
Gráfica mediante DisplayPort? O me recomendais conectarlo con HDMI, en Debian

Un saludo
David

  

Re: Debugging samba

[Kevin DAGNEAUX]

Le 11/04/2019 à 16:57, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit :

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 04:45:53PM +0200, Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:

Le 11/04/2019 à 16:27, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit :

On Thu, Apr 11, 2019 at 03:46:11PM +0200, Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:

Hi,

I'm having crash problem with samba 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 in debian 9.8,
i'm trying to debug it so i can't find the package samba-dbg.

Is there a way to debug samba without samba-dbg?


You might find this helpful:

https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace

Regards,

-Roberto

Yes it was helpful, thank you !

But now, i've a dependency problem, version of samba in debian-security repo
and samba-dbgsym in debian-debug repo are not the sames :

Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites :
  samba-dbgsym : Dépend: samba (= 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1) mais
2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u1 devra être installé


You might need to add a stretch/updates-debug source as well.

Regards,

-Roberto


Hi Roberto,

I've searched for a source"stretch/updates-debug" and not found it, i 
tryed to add source "stretch-proposed-updates-debug" so samba-dbgsym 
version is the same.


Here is my sources.list :

   deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
   contrib non-free
   deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates
   main contrib non-free

   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
   deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free

   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib
   non-free
   deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-proposed-updates main
   contrib non-free
   deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
   contrib non-free

   deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ stretch-debug main
   contrib non-free
   deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/
   stretch-proposed-updates-debug main contrib non-free

Kevin

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Re: Debugging samba

[Kevin DAGNEAUX]

Kevin DAGNEAUX wrote:


But now, i've a dependency problem, version of samba in debian-security
repo and samba-dbgsym in debian-debug repo are not the sames :

may be a similar problem is the root cause for your crashes, because I am
running samba for years and my wife uses it from windows on daily bases and
I have some virtual machines with Win7 too, but never had a crash in the
past 10+ years.

Why don't you start with the log files - increase log level etc.?

regards

I'm using samba for lot of years too, i'm having trouble only with the 
last version from debian repo.


When crashing, samba don't need to be restarted and windows client just 
see a small freeze.


Log file talk about a lock problem on a directory that have never 
existed, in log file i don't have any info about which IP trying to 
access to this directory, that why a i try a debug to see if i've more 
info about thoses access.


Maybe you don't have any problem because samba panic script can't send 
you a mail.


Kevin

<>

Re: Gitlab CI

[Narcis Garcia]

Amb Debian 8 vaig estar fent servir el GitLab CE directe del seu web i,
amb el tema de les actualitzacions i la falta d'integració amb la resta
de sistema, per a mi era una mica descontrol.
Tot semblava previst, però internament jo no sabia ben bé on eren les
coses per a poder-les exportar o fer còpia de seguretat a la meva manera.

Quan pugui utilitzaré els paquets de Debian, i beuré de la teva experiència.




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masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.

El 12/4/19 a les 9:10, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda ha escrit:
> Bones,
> 
> 
> tinc instal·lat un gitlab fent servir els paquets del mantenidor de Debian 
> [1] i
> va força bé.
> 
> El que voldria posar en marxa i no m'ensurto és el CI. Suposo que no entenc 
> prou
> bé el tema del Linux containers o els Kubernetes i no sé com posar en marxa un
> gitlab-runner.
> 
> Algú ho ha fet o sap com fer-ho? Hi ha alguna ànima caritativa que pogués fer 
> 4
> ratlles de com posar en marxa tot aquest sistema? Voldria fer servir els meus
> propis "runners", no els d'una empresa.
> 
> Gràcies,
> 
> 
> Leo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [1] https://wiki.debian.org/gitlab
> 

Gitlab CI

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

Bones,


tinc instal·lat un gitlab fent servir els paquets del mantenidor de Debian [1] i
va força bé.

El que voldria posar en marxa i no m'ensurto és el CI. Suposo que no entenc prou
bé el tema del Linux containers o els Kubernetes i no sé com posar en marxa un
gitlab-runner.

Algú ho ha fet o sap com fer-ho? Hi ha alguna ànima caritativa que pogués fer 4
ratlles de com posar en marxa tot aquest sistema? Voldria fer servir els meus
propis "runners", no els d'una empresa.

Gràcies,


Leo




[1] https://wiki.debian.org/gitlab

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Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Eric Degenetais]

Franchement, pour sauvegarder et nettoyer trois carnets d'adresses
distincts une ou deux fois l'an, l'usage des fonctionnalités d'import /
export intégrées d'android et du MPT déjà disponible sur Linux, comme ça a
déjà été indiqué, me paraît largement suffisant. C'est comme ça que je fais
chez moi, sans souci. Le reste apparaît un tantinet overkill pour un besoin
aussi simple.
My 2 cents

Cordialement

Éric Dégenètais


Le ven. 12 avr. 2019 08:18, Pierre L.  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> j'ai ce souvenir aigre de n'avoir la possibilité de créer qu'un seul
> calendrier par compte d’utilisateur via Radicale, c'est toujours le cas
> ? (juste pas curiosité au passage !)
> Ou peut-être était-ce une limitation sur l'instance testée à cette époque ?
>
>
>
> Le 12/04/2019 à 03:49, Paul Ezvan a écrit :
> > Tu peux simplement installer un serveur CalDav comme Radicale sur ton
> > PC, et synchroniser les contacts depuis ton Android en utilisant
> > DavDroid.
>
>
>

Re: Carnet du téléphone Android et Linux

[Pierre L.]

Bonjour,

j'ai ce souvenir aigre de n'avoir la possibilité de créer qu'un seul
calendrier par compte d’utilisateur via Radicale, c'est toujours le cas
? (juste pas curiosité au passage !)
Ou peut-être était-ce une limitation sur l'instance testée à cette époque ?



Le 12/04/2019 à 03:49, Paul Ezvan a écrit :
> Tu peux simplement installer un serveur CalDav comme Radicale sur ton
> PC, et synchroniser les contacts depuis ton Android en utilisant
> DavDroid. 




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