Thanks, Carl! The free WordPress account sounds very interesting. I’ll check
it out.
Rick
> On May 5, 2019, at 4:28 AM, Carl Fink wrote:
>
> On 5/5/19 6:13 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> I used to have my own webserver, but the machine I was running it on died.
>>
> On May 5, 2019, at 4:26 PM, David wrote:
>
> For pastebin purposes within Debian, please use: https://paste.debian.net/
Thanks, David. This sound like exactly what I need.
Rick
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 11:06 AM, J.Arun Mani wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Im planning to install Debian in my (already Linux Mint powered) laptop. But
> the ISO size is huge (~2.7 GB), something beyond my per-day bandwidth limit
> of 1.5 GB (actually 2 GB, but .5 GB is spent in other personal things).
> On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:42 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>
>> Seems this would work as well, with less collateral damage:
>>
>> apt install -y sysvinit-core elogind
>> apt --purge au
Hi Jonas,
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
> Would be helpful to know if those experiencing long pause in
> dbus-depending environments had _no_ dbus installed (and actively
> running) or had it running with elogind.
How can I tell which situation I have?
Thanks!
> On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:03 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>
> Given that VBox is no longer in the Buster repositories I tried to
> install the Stretch .deb package from the VBox web site. dpkg failed
> because of dependency problems, including libvpx4 that is not in the
> Buster repositories.
> On Aug 24, 2019, at 4:18 PM, l...@contacte.xyz wrote:
>
> What would be the «best» to choose for an SSD in an usual desktop environment
> ?
> What would be the «best» to choose for an mechanical HD in an usual desktop
> environment ?
I don’t think there’s any difference between SSD and
Have you looked at a NUC from Intel?
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark.html#@PanelLabel70407
I’ve got a couple of them and I’m very happy.
Rick
> On Sep 5, 2019, at 2:49 PM, Rogério Brito wrote:
>
> Dear people,
>
> As all my computers are quite old so far (including the ones
task-print-server in testing seems to have changed it’s name to
task-print-service -- why?
Thanks
Rick
If 12GB is reasonable (I have no idea, I don’t use “hibernate” myself) here are
figures to input to the calculation:
SSD sustained write transfer rate is between 30 MB/sec and 120 MB/sec.
Closer to 30 MB/sec (or even slower) if it’s a USB-3 thumb drive (even less
than that if USB-2); closer to
:/media/rbthomas/99602c92-f887-4578-b6bc-39c91d49c43c/rbthomas$ dd
if=/dev/zero of=tempfile bs=1M count=1024 oflag=sync
1024+0 records in
1024+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB, 1.0 GiB) copied, 34.044 s, 31.5 MB/s
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:19 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> Here’s a
You need to add the clause “oflag=sync” on your dd commands. Without it the
MB/s numbers are really just measuring how fast you can fill up the RAM cache
(for write) or scoop up data from the RAM cache (in the case of read).
Here’s an example from one of my machines with a SATA-III SSD and
> On Jun 25, 2019, at 11:20 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>
> Seems this would work as well, with less collateral damage:
>
> apt install -y sysvinit-core elogind
> apt --purge autoremove
>
This works great and, as noted, is far more elegant.
Thanks, Jonas!
Rick
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 1:30 PM, Konstantin Nebel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Anyway from my experience borg is the best and I can recommend it wormly.
>
> I appreciate you answering in the fullest how you do backups and I used borg
> in the past which I can recommend as well. But I really want to
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 10:25 PM, elvis wrote:
>
> On 3/11/19 1:50 pm, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> See reply bottom posted...
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
>>> On 11/2/19 8:10 AM, Martin McCormick wrote:
>>>> Here is the setup
See reply bottom posted...
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
> On 11/2/19 8:10 AM, Martin McCormick wrote:
>> Here is the setup. We are on a private vlan as in 192.168.x.x.
All local host names are resolved via hosts files. Messages to
go to the big wide world must go through
ions without fear
of Catch-22.
Thanks for the correction!
Rick
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, at 8:32 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 20 Jan 2020 at 17:09:33 (-0800), Rick Thomas wrote:
> > Whether you can use the "netinstall" CD depends on whether your device's
> > network connecti
Hi Tamar,
I think your problem is that the box is not connected to the internet. The
sources.list file left by the install process assumes you will be connected.
So take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the lines that refer to
internet sites such as deb.debian.org, Then
I'm not sure myself, but maybe somebody on the list knows?
Anybody know what's the procedure for adding a local disk as a repo?
Thanks in advance!
On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, at 4:15 AM, Tamar Nirenberg wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> The sources file contains only these lines,
t;mac"
support with 10.3 ?
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, at 3:17 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> For a friend...
>
> Does there exist a Buster Debian amd64 installer for mac with non-free
> firmware?
>
> He has a been given a 2006 vintage quad core MacPro1,1
>
> https://everym
For a friend...
Does there exist a Buster Debian amd64 installer for mac with non-free firmware?
He has a been given a 2006 vintage quad core MacPro1,1
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-3.0-specs.html
That he'd like to get Linux running on.
A live image for the
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020, at 6:57 PM, ghe wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 8, 2020, at 07:46 PM, Michael Stone wrote:
> >
> >> If you need to protect against an attacker willing to examine your HDD
> >> with magnetic force microscopy, there is no substitute for physical
> >> destruction of the media.
> >
> Since you have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree that means that
> it s not installed! From what I remember
> you need to select those packages at the end of the base image
> installation.
And you must do an "expert" install, in order to see that option. If you do a
"Standard" install,
age -----
From: Thomas Hilbert
To: Rick Thomas
Subject: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall
Date: Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:50 PM
Good to know about the expert option. So what does the Non-Free,
firmware installer get you over the standard all open source installer?
On 1/19/20 2:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote
into it, but then it didn't load the driver without my
> intervention. Perhaps it is because I used the ~350mb netinstaller NOT
> the full CD or DVD iso's...though I haven't seen that explicitly
> documented anywhere.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Tom
>
> On 1/19/20 9:18 PM, Rick
Pure Debian, as noted, does not have the kernel tweaks to take full advantage
of the R...pi4B hardware. However, I have found that Raspbian is "close
enough" to pure Debian that I can easily exercise all by Debian skills on it
with almost no surprises. It's a nice little box!
Hope that
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 6:45 AM, deloptes wrote:
> Rick Thomas wrote:
> > The covid-19 situation is giving me lots of free time recently, so I've
> > ordered a Raspberry Pi 4 with delivery expected sometime this week.
> Can you explain to me what type of storage you intend t
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, at 5:40 PM, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 23:58:41 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote:
>
> > > "When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything
> > > at all." - Futurama
> > >
> > Could you explain that please?
>
> If you're like me when you
> Consider the time you've spent posing this question, waiting for the
> answers, and reading them. Dump and reload might've finished already.
True, but I wouldn't have learned half so much and wouldn't have had a third so
much had so much fun learning it!
Stay safe!
I recently did a "apt update ; apt upgrade" and it died for lack of space in
/boot when trying to install the latest kernel.
I purged a couple of old kernel packages (still present in the 'stable' repo,
so they weren't obsolete) to make enough space and tried again. Worked this
time, but I
On Sat, May 9, 2020, at 9:10 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sat, 09 May 2020 20:05:48 -0700
> "Rick Thomas" wrote:
>
> > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/mapper/debian--vg-root ext4 30G
On Tue, May 12, 2020, at 3:37 PM, Andrea Borgia wrote:
> Il 13/05/20 00:21, Patrick Bartek ha scritto:
> > I can't find anything definitive on this question. Some say, 100MB is
> > fine; others 215 or 550 is a safe choice. It all seems to be just
> > opinions.
> I had the same doubts about a
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 3:22 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 10 mai 20, 02:02:45, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > So... Here's another question:
> >
> > Why is the default size of /boot, as created by the installer, so
> > small? Disk (even SSD) is cheap enough these days
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 1:17 AM, David Christensen wrote:
> On 2020-05-09 22:05, Will Mengarini wrote:
> > * Rick Thomas [20-05/09=Sa 20:05 -0700]:
> >> What's the best way to increase the size of /boot?
> > By creating a reliable backup and reformatting the disk to
&
So... Here's another question:
Why is the default size of /boot, as created by the installer, so small? Disk
(even SSD) is cheap enough these days that the default size could be as much as
a GB without great pain.
Has this been thought about by the PTBs? Was there a discussion of possibly
On Sun, May 10, 2020, at 12:30 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> As for using GRML, I have never heard of it. The Debian Installer can
> get the job done.
GRML [1] says: "Grml is a bootable live system (Live-CD) based on Debian. Grml
includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, at 9:28 PM, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2020 20:43:43 -0700
> "Rick Thomas" wrote:
>
> > Can anybody suggest a good NAS package? Debian based is preferable,
> > but almost any Linux will do.
>
> I find a combination of pl
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Vincent Lammens wrote:
> Hi Rick
>
> You could try openmediavault. It has an iso for the raspberrypi, and
> comes with a smb, ftp and ssh system preinstalled, so serving all kinds
> of client os's should be no problem. It also has a webgui, and has a few
>
The covid-19 situation is giving me lots of free time recently, so I've ordered
a Raspberry Pi 4 with delivery expected sometime this week.
I'd like to use it for a NAS for the home network, so my family can share files
without resorting to sneaker-net.
We have a full range of clients -- Mac,
OK, I've got a Debian computer where the system disk is showing signs of
flakiness. I want to replace it with a new disk and retire the old one.
Before I do it for real, I'm doing a dry-run on a vmware virtual machine. I
don't *think* the fact that it's virtual should affect my results. But
On Mon, Aug 17, 2020, at 4:42 PM, hobie of RMN wrote:
> Hi, All -
>
> My brother has been issuing "mount /dev/sdb1" prior to backing up some
> files to a second hard disk. He lately upgraded to 'testing', and it
> appears (from result of running df) that what the system now calls
> /dev/sdb1 is
I too have been using Debian for over a decade, and I've come to rely on it, so
I hear your concern at having to "switch" to something new. But I don't think
Devuan is really all that "new".
For almost two years I've had Devuan ascii with mate desktop in a VM that I
use daily for a variety
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, at 11:05 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Matthew Campbell wrote:
> > The process is complete. The 4 TB drive has been successfully blanked in
> > less than 40 hours using dd. It got done between 11 pm last night and 12 am
> > this morning. dd showed an overall average write speed
This means that reads and writes should be on 4KiB boundaries, and writes
should be multiples of 4KiB, for optimal performance. As long as those criteria
are met, there's no harm and some real benefits of reading and writing larger
blocks than the minimum.
One example benefit, among several
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, at 3:48 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:42:41AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 13:42:37 +0200
> > Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > That is, if you and other list subscribers care about continued i386
> > > support you should
This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your comments
to debian technical questions.
I'm trying to install Debian Buster [1] on my Cubox-i4P with an eSATA drive.
Everything seems to be fine, but when it comes time to reboot, it boots into
the installer again, rather than the installed system.
Here's what I did, and what I observed:
*) I downloaded the two parts of the SDcard
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, at 11:15 PM, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> On 2021-01-27, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > I'm trying to install Debian Buster [1] on my Cubox-i4P with an eSATA
> > drive. Everything seems to be fine, but when it comes time to reboot,
> > it boots into the install
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, at 12:08 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021, at 11:15 PM, Vagrant Cascadian wrote:
> > On 2021-01-27, Rick Thomas wrote:
> > > I'm trying to install Debian Buster [1] on my Cubox-i4P with an eSATA
> > > drive. Everything seems to be f
Hi!
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Holger Wansing wrote:
> On https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> you should look under the daily snapshots.
> For armhf that would be
> https://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/armhf/daily/netboot/SD-card-images/
I downloaded the two-part image from
On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 8:33 AM, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > X clients like MATE don't directly depend on an X server, because in
> > theory, the X server could be on a different machine.
I'd love to be able to do that! E.g. a headless machine with plenty of RAM and
CPU power to run Mate, but
On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 5:43 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 3:37 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I've seen warnings (against hacks) that say (among other things) to enable
> > "secure flash". I've been googling to learn more about that, but I ha
On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 3:37 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've seen warnings (against hacks) that say (among other things) to enable
> "secure flash". I've been googling to learn more about that, but I haven't
> found any good explanation.
>
> I'm beginning to get hints that it is not so
I use the following little script. If it produces output, then a reboot is
desirable.
#!/bin/bash -p
set -x
PATH=/usr/bin:/bin
lsof +c0 -w | grep ' DEL *REG *[^0 ]' | egrep -v \
'(/var/lib/gdm3|/usr/share/mime|/home/[^/]*)/(.cache|.config|.local)'
What it does is look for library (and
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021, at 1:03 AM, Holger Wansing wrote:
> > On https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> > you should look under the daily snapshots.
> > For armhf that would be
> > https://
On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > First apologies for the off-topic post, but I know this community is
> > full of experts on this topic and my ask in the end is a simple one:
>
> (and you can use Debian to achieve your ends)
>
> > Can anyone point
Synaptic has a button to (essentially) run "apt update" It's in the upper left
corner of the window and labeled "Reload" and if you hover over it, it says
"reload the package information to become informed about new, removed or
upgraded software packages".
HTH!
Rick
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, at 6:02 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2021 30 Sep 15:15 -0500, Marco Möller wrote:
>> SUMMARY:
>> I never observed problems with ext4 on my since 4 years heavily used USB
>> pen-drive.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>> Marco
>
> Thanks Marco!
>
> That is a very useful review of your
Hold down the key when you turn the machine on. Hold it until the
finishes. You should see a menu of possible boot disks. Pick one that has a
penguin on it.
Hope that helps!
Rick
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021, at 11:11 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 24 Nov 2021 at 14:59:09 (+0100),
The title says it all, I hope. I've tried installing vmware player on my
Bookworm according to the instructions from
https://techviewleo.com/install-vmware-on-debian/
But I can't seem to get vmware player to start up. What am I doing wrong? Is
there a better location to look for
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023, at 7:04 PM, జిందం వాఐి wrote:
>> PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice,
>> would there be a better VM supervisor
>> I could use? If so, can you point me
>> to a set of instructions for it?
>
> * these are MY personal opnions from
> experience [ almost decade ago ]
> [ may not
Can anyone recommend good documentation on KVM/QEMU that would allow me to get
up to speed on it quickly?
Thanks!
Rick
On Sun, Nov 5, 2023, at 4:33 AM, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2023 10:56 +0100, from andr...@xss.co.at (Andreas Haumer):
>>> PPS: If VMware isn't a good choice, would
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On Sun Jul 17 09:16:57 2022 Dekks Herton wrote:
>
> > john doe writes:
> >
> >> I'm comtemplating buying a Pinebook pro but I'm not sure if this is
> >> better then buying a Windows laptop and putting linux on it.
> >>
> >> I'm
I'm experimenting with installing Bullseye on a Cubox-i4Pro I keep around for
testing purposes.
I followed the instructions at:
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/installer-armhf/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/README.concatenateable_images
Then I dd'ed the
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> I'm experimenting with installing Bullseye on a Cubox-i4Pro I keep
> around for testing purposes.
>
> I followed the instructions at:
>
>
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/bullseye/main/installer-armhf/c
You might want to take a look at "Computer Networks" by A.S. Tanenbaum and D.J.
Wetherall. It's available for free online at
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v=sites=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxza21pbmh8Z3g6NjQxMTI2MmYxMTAwZmNjZQ
Or you can buy a copy from your local bookseller.
Enjoy!
Rick
On Sat, May 7, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> On 8/5/22 10:47 am, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> ISC has ended development on the ISC DHCP client as of early 2022.
>>> This client implementation is no longer maintained and should not be
>>> used in production any longe
On Sat, May 7, 2022, at 8:19 PM, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> On 8/5/22 11:14 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
>>
>>
>> You can just use systemd-networkd as an IPv4 dhcp client.
>>
>>
>
> Of note: Using systemd-networkd you should not use NetworkManager or
> networking services. I think both use the ISC dhcp
According to the ISC webpage:
> ISC has ended development on the ISC DHCP client as of early 2022.
> This client implementation is no longer maintained and should not be
> used in production any longer.
Can anybody recommend a good replacement?
Does anybody know what the Debian PTBs are planning
On Sat, May 7, 2022, at 9:37 PM, Jeremy Ardley wrote:
> On 8/5/22 11:27 am, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> Thanks for the heads up!
>> Can you describe in detail what one needs to do in order to switch over?
>> I.e. what to remove, what to install? What to configure?
>
>
On Sat, May 7, 2022, at 7:47 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> According to the ISC webpage:
>
>> ISC has ended development on the ISC DHCP client as of early 2022.
>> This client implementation is no longer maintained and should not be
>> used in production any longer.
>
>
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Bob Crochelt wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 09:59:48AM +0100, didier gaumet wrote:
>> Le mardi 10 janvier 2023 à 16:32 -0800, Bob Crochelt a écrit :
>> > >
>> > Thanks to all who replied. I appreciate the help and advice. Think
>> > I
>> > will just sit
Sorry to hear of your mishap, Ken ...
In regards to possibly making your system un-bootable, I have two suggestions:
1) First make a backup of everything ASAP! (and make plans for frequent regular
backups into the future)
2) Always remember that you can boot from the Bullseye install DVD (or USB
I've got a couple of Debian systems that (for various reasons) are running
"testing" or "sid". I recently did
apt update && apt upgrade && aptitude search '~o'
on these machines and found that a number of firmware packages are considered
"obsolete", presumably because they are no
On Mon, May 1, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 2/5/23 02:06, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 5/1/23 06:51, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On my "new" Bullseye machines the root volume starts to fill up. The
>>> cause seems to be the /usr/lib folder.
>>> On my older Buster (10.13)
Thanks, Jeff!
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 12:04 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 2:49 AM Rick Thomas wrote:
snip
>> In this case, the package is already installed.
>> Unfortunately when I try to reinstall it, I get:
>>
>> rbthomas@pi:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2023, at 9:21 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 12:15 AM Rick Thomas wrote:
>>
>> I have a Raspberry Pi that is running Debian (*not* Raspbian) that I just
>> upgraded from Bullseye => Bookworm.
>>
>> Following the upgrade
That seems to have worked (I think)...
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 7:34 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
snip
> It might be worth looking at precisely what is not installed / removed
> dpkg -C will give you what needs configuring if anything, I think.
>
> I had a similar experience with
I recently upgraded one of my Debian Bullseye machines to Bookworm. The
machine's main purpose is to run Virtualbox to allow me to experiment on
disposable VMs rather than real hardware.
Now when I do "apt update" I get this message:
.W:
On Mon, Jun 19, 2023, at 8:27 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 11:15 PM Rick Thomas wrote:
>>
>> Now when I do "apt update" I get this message:
>> .W:
>> https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/dists/bullseye/InRelease:
&
I've been upgrading my machines Bullseye => Bookworm recently. In a few of
these upgrades, the name of the ethernet device changed. (E.g. enP2p32s15f0 =>
enP2p0s15f0) This required changes to /etc/network/interfaces in order to
start up the interface.
This is only a minor inconvenience
I have a Raspberry Pi that is running Debian (*not* Raspbian) that I just
upgraded from Bullseye => Bookworm.
Following the upgrade whenever I try to install the latest upgrades, I get
errors (see attached transcript).
Can anybody see what I've done wrong? Or what I can do to fix it?
I'm not
Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on a
new PC?
If so, where can I download it from?
If not, how much longer is it likely to be before one exists?
Thanks!
Rick
On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, at 6:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 05:47:48PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> Is there a netinst iso that I can use to safely install Bookworm (stable) on
>> a new PC?
>
> Well, with a netinst, the issue isn't what's on the
Thank you for mentioning "dnsmasq". I do the same thing on my home network and
it works very well.
Rick
On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, at 9:29 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Which tools read /etc/ethers, what do they expect in there, what do
>> they do with the contents?
>
> AFAIK it's mostly unused
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