Re: youtube-dl blocked?

2024-04-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:50:06 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

Hello Greg,

>The youtube-dl package in Debian 12 is a transitional package which
>brings in yt-dlp (version 2023.03.04-1 currently).

v2024.somethingorother is in stable-backports.

Let's face it:  yt do their level best to stop stuff like this working,
so the latest version being available via the backport mechanism can only
be a Good Thing(tm) IMO.   :-)

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Re: On user expectations (Was Re: *****SPAM***** Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian)

2024-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:35:58 +
Andy Smith  wrote:

Hello Andy,

>I suspect that your text above has come out sounding more entitled
>than you intended, as English is not your first language.

In fairness to Hans, he did go on to explain as much.

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Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 11:38:18 +0200
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I only hope, it will not happen the same fate like usermin and webmin
>happened to: It was once removed from the repoi with th ereason
>"spagehetti code, bad code" and then no one ever took a look again to

Which, no doubt, makes it harder to patch (if necessary).  

>And webmin and usermin are still developed! 

Based on the foregoing (i.e. above), they were exceptional cases. 

>This is not mourning, please note, just things, I am just reflect my 
>watchings. 

Yeah, we all do it.  Sometimes.   :-)

I desire the return of certain behaviours in various programs, but it's
never going to happen;  I just had to get used to it.

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Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:55:26 +0200
Erwan David  wrote:

Hello Erwan,

>What scares me is seeing part of 18 ongoing transition, and 4 "coming 
>soon transitions" with "please do not upload if it is not related to
>the transition".

Several (well, lots of) transitions have landed at pretty the same time.
IME they're usually quite safe - just the occasional oddity, like the
occasional, temporary, package removal.  This set is going to bite deep,
I think.

Ultimately, though, it'll be fine, I'm sure.

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Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:18:23 +0200
Vincent Lefevre  wrote:

Hello Vincent,

>Actually, if I understand correctly, LibreOffice will really be
>removed on some architectures (armhf ppc64el s390x mips64el riscv64).
>Fortunately, I am not concerned by this removal (only by the fact
>that my bug reports were closed, but this has now been fixed).

Indeed;  There's a lot going on ATM, and it's almost inevitable that
"stuff"(1) happens at times like this.

Thankfully it was, easily, and quickly, sorted.

(1) i.e. mistakes get made.

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Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:35:57 +0200
Vincent Lefevre  wrote:

Hello Vincent,

>If this is not permanent, why have all the bugs been closed?

That I have no answer for.

I was basing my "this is not permanent" on the fact that there are a
large number of auto-transitions currently ongoing, and many packages
are, as a result, are being affected(1).  I thought that LO was caught
up in it all.

Based on all the bug closures (I had no idea that was the case until you
mentioned it), I am at a loss to know what's occurring(2).

(1) currently only a handful of packages installed on my system have been
removed from testing, but I expect that number to grow before things
start getting back to 'normal'

(2) Thomas' message sheds light, I think.

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Re: LibreOffice removed from Debian

2024-04-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:12:39 +0200
Vincent Lefevre  wrote:

Hello Vincent,

>Is there any reason why LibreOffice has been removed from Debian???

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libreoffice

Has all the info you need, and more.  Expect it to be removed from
testing, too.

This is not permanent.

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Re: Root password strength

2024-03-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 18:46:04 +0100
Pierre-Elliott Bécue  wrote:

Hello Pierre-Elliott,

>You have a rather bad cybersecurity approach.

I use password generators and vaults for all my passwords.  Nothing
wrong with my cyber-security.

Also note that I put 'written down' in single quotes - it was meant to
indicate that the term could be a euphemism for such things as stored in
a password vault, a secure note on a mobile phone, and so on.

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Re: Root password strength

2024-03-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:09:31 +0100
Pierre-Elliott Bécue  wrote:

Hello Pierre-Elliott,

>Most of the time, writing down a password is a very bad idea.

Not in your own home.  And in any event, it depends where one keeps that
'written down' password.

And if it *does* become an issue at home, you've got bigger, more
immediate, problems to deal with;  Of the intruder variety.

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Re: How does the 64bits time_t transition work?

2024-03-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:22:16 +0100
Detlef Vollmann  wrote:

Hello Detlef,

>Is there a description anywhere how the 64bit time transition works?

I'm far from an expert, but from what I've read, this transition is
*huge*.  Possibly the largest that has ever occurred in Debian.  It's
going to take time to get it done.  Lots, and lots, of time.  In the
meanwhile, it means a good deal of disruption in Sid/unstable.

You should already be aware that running sid comes with certain
difficulties, and if you're not prepared/willing to deal with them then,
in all likelihood, Sid isn't for you.

Following Marco's advice would be a good first step, IMO.

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Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 15:36:25 +0100
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I do not believe, it is a training problem. Why? Well, your formerly
>mail was marked as spam. So I marked it as ham. Now, your second mail
>again is marked as spam. 

Spam/ham training is not, IME, a single shot affair.  However, as you go
on to say, this particular issue is in all likelihood due to forces
outside of our control.

At which point, I'll hand over to people far more experienced than I.

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Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 13:53:49 +0100
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>It should be well trained

Spam training is an ongoing process

>But until then suddenly the false positives increased from one day to
>another, although I had changed nothing.

because the spam changes.  What's coming now is new, and SA has not
seen it before.  You have to train it.  Equally, what you consider ham
can change - for example, when you subscribe to a new mailing list that
caters to a subject not encountered by you before because of, say, taking
up a new hobby.

I've been using my spam filtering set up for years too, and I still get
the occasional false positive.  I mark them as ham to (hopefully)
improve spam filtering here.

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Re: Spam from the list?

2024-03-06 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 06 Mar 2024 11:19:27 +0100
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>Does one see any reason, why this is considered as spam???

Further to what Thomas says;  You haven't told your spam filtering that
it's ham.  If you don't train your spam filters, it's never going to get
any better at detecting what you consider to be ham/spam.

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Re: Problem with sleeping mode ( debian 12 ) please help

2024-03-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:09:34 +0100
Mansour Nasri  wrote:

Hello Mansour,

>Hi I'm using debian 12 in Lenovo yoga legion core i5 12th-gen with
>Nvidia
{cut}

You asked this, or a very similar question, on 29 Feb.  You had two
responses that I saw.  I suggest you review those replies and respond
accordingly.

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Re: missing development package?

2024-03-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 4 Mar 2024 11:56:54 +
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:

Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk,

>Does the # character at the start of the deb-src line matter?

Yes;  It comments out deb-src as a repo, so it can't/won't be used.

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Re: “Secure Connection Failed” Error in Firefox

2024-03-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 12:26:20 -0300
Marcelo Laia  wrote:

Hello Marcelo,

>website https://gontijoonibus.gontijo.com.br/ on 

I get the same results as Greg - in several browsers.

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Re: packages.debian.org seems to be down

2024-03-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 09:14:14 +0100
Harald Dunkel  wrote:

Hello Harald,

>is it just me, or is https://packages.debian.org/ down? I had a
>similar problem yesterday morning.

Home page loads, but clicking on "View Packages..." links result in a 503
error.  Other links are working (probably because they lead to pages not
on the packages server farm).

Searches time out.  Again, with a 503 error.

Somethings amiss.   :-(

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Re: Data and hardware protection measures; was: rsync --delete vs rsync --delete-after

2024-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 19:19:55 +0100
hw  wrote:

Hello hw,

>How do you know in advance when the battery will have failed?

Even my very basic UPS (APC Backup 1400) has a light on the front
labelled "Replace Battery".  That, combined with a very annoying high
pitch scream, are pretty good motivators to do the job.

I know the Backup 1400 was mentioned in this thread as "probably avoid"
(or something similar), but it's served me well thus far.  Had to replace
the battery pack only once.  That was after ten years, not the three to
five that people have been talking about.  APC no longer sell that
model, but battery packs are still available.  Just as an FYI, the
battery packs are sealed Lead-Acid.

Where I live (UK), it's possible to sell lead-acid batteries to scrap
merchants.  Amount paid is variable and subject to massive market forces
that are best described as 'volatile'.

Like others have mentioned with some of the more basic APC devices, this
particular model isn't designed with user replaceable batteries in mind,
but it's not an overly difficult task.  It can't easily (if at all) be
done leaving connected devices powered up, though.

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Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

2024-01-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:07:26 -0600
David Wright  wrote:

Hello David,

>The size of that is fixed when formatted, at least up to FAT16.
>Long filenames will eat it up more quickly still. Create
>subdirectories and the problem goes away.

Yes, this is exactly what I experienced.  So not the FAT at fault, but
rather the 'ecosystem'.

How time plays trick on one's memory.   :-(

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Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 16:15:27 +0100
Nicolas George  wrote:

Hello Nicolas,

>Pictures or it did not happen.

Didn't bother because it appeared to be a well-understood phenomenon,
based on my limited research.

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Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 13:25:52 +0100
Nicolas George  wrote:

Hello Nicolas,

>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long
>filenames.

Seen it happen;  Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the
beginning of a session of copying multiple files would be lost because
the FAT was filled, and overwritten from the start by files added later
in the session.

We are talking in excess of 20,000 (not difficult to achieve with
over 1000 CDs to rip) files here, mixed case, and long file names, all.

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Re: playing CDROM music questions

2024-01-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 21:09:54 +
Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote:

Hello Michael,

>Alternatively, they also offer SanDisk SDXC 128 GB memory cards at $14
>a piece. One such will easily hold 1000 CDs at near-CD quality MP3.

Depends;  I ended up buying three smaller sticks, because the
limitations of the file system meant that the File Allocation Table
got filled up wy before the larger capacity memory sticks did.  I
would point out that, since the sticks were bought for use in my car,
reformatting to ext4 (for example) was not an option.

Even with the smaller sticks, I had to use all upper case, and stick to
8.3 names for the files, otherwise the FAT still got overloaded.

Of course, if you're going to reformat the sticks then the foregoing
issues are moot.

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Dealing with SPAM.

2023-12-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100
Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

Hello Zenaan,

>OMG money! I, being Debian User it

The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.

If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the list
*again*.  

Thank you.

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Re: Could we please cease this thread now? [WAS Re: lists]

2023-12-21 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 09:25:26 -0500
Pocket  wrote:

Hello Pocket,

> Forwarded Message 

Putting a private message on the list, without sender's consent, is very
rude indeed.  Given that it was announced by sender beforehand that they
would reply privately, I'm absolutely certain they did not agree to the
message being forwarded here.

May you live in interesting times. (ancient insult)

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Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 16:08:54 +0100
Marco Moock  wrote:

Hello Marco,

>He can read that list via Usenet because it is gatewayed to it

Thank you;  I'm aware there are several ways to read the messages.  I was
merely pointing out the (perhaps) obvious.

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Re: lists

2023-12-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:13:12 -0500
Pocket  wrote:

Hello Pocket,

>Every 60 days I get kicked from this list which I receive an email 
>stating my kick value is 2%.

Sounds as though something is rejecting posts at your mail provider.
Hence you get kicked.

You don't need to be subbed to post to the list.  Of course, you won't
receive any posts from the list.


Persist with the administrative posts to the list and you'll find that
more and more people will kill file you.  You may even find that people
start complaining about you to list admin.  If enough people complain,
you could wind up getting banned from the list.

Jut a few things to bear in mind.

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Re: Mouse single click handling?

2023-12-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:01:46 +0100 (CET)
local10  wrote:

Hello local10,

> So I thought perhaps there was a way to fix them instead of buying a
> new one every 6-12 months.

Replace the flaky switch.  If you're not happy wielding a soldering
iron, get a friend to do it - assuming you know someone competent at
soldering.

Failing that, when you come to buy a new mouse, pay more;  That way, one
would hope, that the quality of parts would be better, making for a
longer life.

My mouse developed similar behaviour;  LMB(1) became very touchy.  I
replaced the switch about three years ago and am still using the same
device now.  The mouse is now over a decade old.

Also, it's a good idea to give your mouse a darn good clean every now
and then.  This means taking it apart to get all the dust and other cruft
out that accumulates over time.

(1)  IME it's almost always LMB that fails - it gets far more use than
RMB.

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Re: Security vulnerability at curl package: CVE-2023-44487: HTTP/2 Rapid Reset

2023-11-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:56:28 +
"Marold Marcus (DC-AE/ESW1)"  wrote:

Hello Marold,

Firstly, we're (for the most part) users, not developers.

>I would like to request an upgrade of the curl package (Linux Ubuntu
>Core 22 /

Secondly, we're _Debian_ users not Ubuntu.

You'll have to take it up with Ubuntu.

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Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:15:56 -0600
Mike McClain  wrote:

Hello Mike,

>A second item that's slightly off topic, I've had no luck setting
>up claws-mail to send out through frontier.net and if anyone knows how
>to do that I'd appreciate the claws-mail setup for it.

Without knowing what you've done, or what errors you receive I can only
suggest you start here;

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/frontier/SLN3792.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8_referrer_sig=AQAAAG4cywIUVM3DYW6VMJeB1xaQhcvotPg06bOVj7Tb3448LcW98YDlSSI1OkiM4pvd7XeUtYcONDXOfK3QNQo_2RENbJHWxu886aFSXyIIQOiwej-BaH-m5hkpIaUvRM8FMziZ13JvH-SstaPrJrRhlHTSNJCzv_R7CSAdhJOhI-Ql&_guc_consent_skip=1700504498

Specifically the part Verify POP or IMAP settings.

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Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:57:03 +
Joe  wrote:

Hello Joe,

>On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:31:31 +0000
>Brad Rogers  wrote:
>> Can be altered in Prefs.
>>  Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section.
>Thank you. I never told it to do that.

I think (but don't quote me) it's the default in CM.  And with the large
number of settings, it's easy to miss it.

Took me a while to find the right section before responding to to your
post:
I *know* it's there somewhere..   :-l

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Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 +
Joe  wrote:

Hello Joe,

>currently, selecting an email in the list marks it as read, which is not

Can be altered in Prefs.
 Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section.

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Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 10:57:34 -0300
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI  wrote:

Hello Eduardo,

>It's not only google, I'd say it's the norm, except for "advanced"
>users that use good MUA.

Now *I'm* shocked (like Andy Smith is).  I haven't ever used web mail,
so had no idea.

>And those are getting rare, I can't find a nice MUA for Android with 
>proper threading.

Don't read mail on my phone, either.  Thus, have never looked for the
offerings there.  Sounds as though I'd hate it.

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Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 12:04:47 +
Andy Smith  wrote:

Hello Andy,

{gmail web interface}
> that people put up with that.

If they've always used google (and let's face it, there are plenty of
people that fall in to that category), then they have no experience
of anything else and quite possibly know no better.

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Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:09:55 -0500
Jeffrey Walton  wrote:

Hello Jeffrey,

>> >I seem to recall IMAP is a better choice than POP when using Claws.  
>> It makes no difference.  
>To whom? The OP's problem, or hypothetically?

Sorry, I was not explicit;  No difference to CM.  POP3 and IMAP (etc,
etc.) are protocols CM handles well.  It also makes no difference to OP,
personal preference aside, of course.

>It might be a good idea to join the Claws-Mail mailing list. I think

Already on it.  Although I rarely post there these days.  Never when it
comes to setting up google;  I've never done it, so have no advice to
offer.  Other than 'Don't'   :-)

And you're right, there are often messages about setting CM up.  Most
often with google.  Those people usually expect things to 'just work'
and can get overwhelmed by CMs options.

Additionally, google don't make it easy to use software they don't
approve of (read: isn't theirs).

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Re: claws-mail

2023-11-13 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 05:22:13 -0500
Jeffrey Walton  wrote:

Hello Jeffrey,

>I seem to recall IMAP is a better choice than POP when using Claws.

It makes no difference.

Many people prefer IMAP, certainly.  Equally, there are those that
prefer POP3 - myself among them.  Of course, with google, it's largely
academic;  They keep them all, anyway.

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Re: claws-mail

2023-11-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:39:02 + (UTC)
mike.junk...@att.net wrote:

Hello mike.junk...@att.net,

>I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to get claws-mail working

Head over to https://lists.claws-mail.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/users

Maybe even subscribe to their list.  Expect to have to give people some
useful information, like what error messages you receive and what version
of CM you're using.  The latter makes a difference, *especially* with
google because older versions won't do Oauth2.

Expect to have to do some work in CM and at google's site to enable
successful mail transfers to take place.  Other providers should be
easier to set up.

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Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 19:01:57 -0600
Nicholas Geovanis  wrote:

Hello Nicholas,

>
>Or maybe they are used to the more recently-devised file sharing
>services which let you exchange zillions of much larger files than this
>list allows, but every hour. On any given day I might listen to several

You/they go there voluntarily.  No one's forcing you to.  Forcing
everyone on a ML to d/l one's 1meg+ attachment is a very different thing.

>It's a different use-case but the thoughts are all the same: Have you

'lack of thoughts' more like.

>ever used, say, an S3 bucket for your Debian EC2 VM in Amazon cloud?

No.  No VM.  No Amazon.  More generally - No cloud services.

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Re: limit on attachment in mail to list

2023-11-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 18:10:12 +0800
hlyg  wrote:

Hello hlyg,

>how do you defend debian's vagueness that Large attachments are
>discouraged?

It's not really a matter of vagueness on Debian's part, but politeness
on the sender's part.

It's easy to forget that not everyone has an always on, unlimited
download, internet account.  For those people still on dial up, with
limited data allowances, we should avoid attachments.  Especially large
ones.

Personally, I'm dismayed that so many lists now allow multiple megabyte
attachments to be sent to their lists.  Quite often, I see 80-90kbyte
(and more) images that show an error requester with text that could be
typed out in 60 characters or less.  There's no need for that image to
be sent.

(sweeping generalisation coming)
People that upload such images are lazy, arrogant, and suffer
from a massive sense of entitlement.

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Re: debian.org - broken Download link.

2023-10-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 21:20:04 +0700
Dmitry  wrote:

Hello Dmitry,

>https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso

Appears to have been updated/corrected.  Now works, d/l'ing Debian 12.2
after recent point release.

Transitional error, I suspect - Debian is a big web site with lots of
links to update.  I bet it's not done manually.  In any event, it takes
time to get everything updated correctly.

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Re: Letting Windows go: scanning

2023-09-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 13:17:14 -0400
Timothy M Butterworth  wrote:

Hello Timothy,

>When I used to use HP MFD's I used to have to connect to it with USB to
>get scanning. I do not know if network scanning is now supported or not.

My HP 8012e (a wifi only device) scans happily.

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Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 08:44:38 -0400
Greg Wooledge  wrote:

Hello Greg,

>Because we've already deleted the message from person

I can understand that for the occasional slip up (1), but when the
perpetrator does it habitually

(1) Over-zealous with the delete key, for example.

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Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 2 Sep 2023 12:08:37 +0100
Brian  wrote:

Hello Brian,

>I did not write any of the text you quote.


You did, but it was not what Timothy was responding to.

What you wrote was quoted right at the bottom of the message, and
irrelevant to Timothy's response.

Which begs the question:
Why do some people respond to a message from person Y, when they're
/actually/ dealing with something written by person X?

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Re: bookworm and network connections

2023-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 1 Sep 2023 14:02:31 -0600
"D. R. Evans"  wrote:

Hello D.,

>So how do I fix this so that the networking is configured to work
>correctly during the boot sequence, as it has always done before?

I had changing ethernet port issues and found that creating
/etc/systemd/network/99-default.link

with the stanza

--8X-

[Match]
MACAddress=AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF
# Substitute the real MAC address

[Link]
Name=ethN
# Replace N with something unique (e.g. 0)

--8X---

works well.  I see no reason that creating two stanzas with (I hope) the
obvious changes, one for each i/f, should fail.


Now somebody's bound to come along and say
 "No, there's a better way."

:-)

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Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 14:57:29 +0200
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>thanks for the fast response. Yes, you are correct, my information was
>not much.

No probs.

>This issue appeared suddenly from one day to another and he swore, he
>had nothing done except shutting down and starting.

When someone swears they "only $AnyThing" it's almost axiomatic they
did something - whatever it might be..

>It might be, that I installed the localisation from 7.5 on LO-7.4, as
>both are in the repo. At the moment, I can not recheck it.

OTOH, if you/they installed LO from (say) stable, and the
localisation from backports, that may explain the issue.

Can't check here, as I'm on Testing (which doesn't exhibit the fault
you're encountering).

>Libreoffice started, then the splash screen appeared and the progress
>bar was a fifth of the whole bar. Here it hangs for about 10 minutes

Sounds almost as if LO had shut down improperly and is trying to
rebuild/create the database.   However, the crash dialog usually comes
up pretty quickly, IME.

The only way beyond this point is to get hold of the machine, I think.


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Re: Problem with libreoffice and localisation - LO hangs

2023-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 13:51:35 +0200
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I also discovered, that the installation of libreoffice-l10n-de will
>deinstall several lib

With little in the way of information from you, we can only guess, but
the first thing to check is that the localisation package is the same 
version as the rest of LO.

Further; Stable, Testing or Sid?

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Re: Not authorized to run synaptic

2023-08-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 10:11:01 -0300
Bruno Schneider  wrote:

Hello Bruno,

>Apparently, some service needed to be restarted, because the problem
>went away after a reboot. Perhaps policykit?

Almost certainly;

Here, Synaptic required root password *until* policykit was installed
(as a dependency of another package) when things changed and Synaptic
now requires user's password.

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Re: General Questions

2023-08-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:01:22 +0600
Tatoka  wrote:

Hello Tatoka,

>1. Is Subscribing to mailing list free?

Yes.  All that's needed is a valid email address to sign up with.

>2. I have problem with ClamAv:

Sorry, can't help with that as I have no experience with ClamAV.

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Re: Trojan

2023-08-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:20:37 +0100
Alain D D Williams  wrote:

Hello Alain,

>Sorry if I came across as overly cynical.

You didn't.

The same can't be said for me, though.   ;-)

>It would be nice if they also went after the perps/crims behind
>phishing emails‡‡

Not the job of government.  Not directly, I mean.  They have agencies to
deal with that sort of thing.  Almost certainly undermanned and and
under funded.

Plus, of course, when the emails have origins outside the UK's sphere of
influence, there's not really a lot that can be done except trust on the
integrity of relevant authorities in, for example, Russia or Nigeria.

Yeah, well.  We can hope.

>Still: it is worth reporting to them, which I do several times/week.
>‡‡ and similar 'phone calls.

You're probably right.  It's axiomatic that there will be massive under
reporting of such emails.  I know I've never reported any.  Not that I
get many these days.  Last one was over a year ago.

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Re: Trojan

2023-08-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 09:36:02 +0100
Alain D D Williams  wrote:

Hello Alain,

>They will look at it and do something - or so they claim,

Most likely that 'something' will be to compile statistics about
phishing attacks.  Maybe produce a leaflet, or update the advice given
on a web page somewhere.

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Re: btrfs check Causes File Corruption

2023-08-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 18:28:56 +0800
"Longhao.Chen"  wrote:

Hello Longhao.Chen,

>Hello everyone,

Please be patient.  Waiting less that an hour before reposting a question
gains you little.

This is a users mailing list, not a paid for support forum.  Anyone here
is volunteering their time.  Users with experience of btrfs are a subset
of all users here.  Of those users, the ones that have confidence in
their expertise to assist you will be an even smaller subset.  Many of
those may not have yet seen your request, never mind had time to
formulate a response.

Thank you.

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Re: is it unusual that 12.1 is released so soon after 12?

2023-08-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 18:14:16 +0800
hlyg  wrote:

Hello hlyg,

>it seems that x.1 are really stable while x are beta release

Little could be further from the truth.  By the time an X.0 release is
issued, much work has already been done; *including* beta releases.

That's not to say X.0 releases are never flawed.  There can sometimes
be issues.

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Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 08:58:25 +0200
Thierry Leurent  wrote:

Hello Thierry,

>Thanks for the information

YW, Thierry.

Unless one reads the Claws mailing list, it's not easy to have known what
was going on.

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Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 00:10:20 +0200
Thierry Leurent  wrote:

Hello Thierry,

>-  Claws mail not render correctly html mails.

It doesn't render them at all, unless you have a suitable plugin
installed(1).  And yes, for a while, HTML rendering was not great.  This
was due to removal (in many distros) of a package required by the Fancy
plugin (I forget which) that had security issues.

(1) This is, IMO, a Good Thing.

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Re: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 09:40:54 -0600
Charles Curley  wrote:

Hello Charles,
>Possibly. Although in the past, having sent a similar email, I have
>actually gotten acknowledgments from the offender.

It does happen, yes. IME, though, it is rare.

>I responded as I did in order to teach not only the OP but anyone else
>reading the traffic a useful general lesson; one that may apply to
>multiple list servers.

Indeed.  I never meant to disparage yourself or others with similar
intentions.  However, with no further activity, thus far, from OP the
likelihood of seeing one is diminishing.  Of course, that may mean
they're successfully unsubbed already.

>> Best course of action is to quietly unsubscribe user ASAP.  Of course,
>> that requires somebody with suitable list management access rights.  
>If you want to do so, and have suitable access, feel free to do so.

I wish I did.  And I would have done so.  It may have happened already
anyway.  Although under such circumstances, I'd have liked to have seen
a notification to that effect.  It would put an end to the topic. Which,
to my shame, I'm not helping to do.

>To paraphrase an ancient aphorism, unsubscribe a man once, and you have
>unsubscribed him. Teach a man how to unsubscribe, and you have
>unsubscribed him many times.

A method I approve of, and use myself in most circumstances.  That said,
I've seen the same imperfect unsub practice by various ppl in multiple
places.  Some people, it seems, are unwilling to learn.   :-(

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Re: UNUBSCRIBE

2023-08-11 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 22:12:30 -0600
Charles Curley  wrote:

Hello Charles,

>You would probably do better to send that to a special email address

Since the OP wants out, I'd have thought it /extremely/ unlikely they'll
read any on-list replies.

The usual behaviour seems to be;

1. send (misspelled) an unsubscribe message to list.
2. keep receiving messages due to people (understandably) trying to
help out OP.
3. block messages from list and report list address as spam to as many
places as possible.

Best course of action is to quietly unsubscribe user ASAP.  Of course,
that requires somebody with suitable list management access rights.

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Re: Package policy?

2023-08-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 08 Aug 2023 16:24:45 +0200
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I can only guess, the package maintainers removed it, because it did
>not work somewhow, but why then put it back again?

They didn't put it back.  It was never removed from Sid (things rarely
are)[1].  It was removed from Testing in Oct 2022 due to having
dependency issues (they can't be satisfied). Because of that removal,
the package isn't in the current Debian release - Bookworm.

See; https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/roger-router
Which has a pointer to the bug report;
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1019303
The final line of the reply reads (in part)
  "This is going to be ... fun"
by which I assume they mean "A lot of work".

[1]  It's Sid - EXPECT breakage at some point.

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Re: Partial Freeze Bullseye Mate

2023-07-15 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 06:56:02 -0700
Peter Ehlert  wrote:

Hello Peter,

> to fiddle, it seems I am getting bad connections in some 
>ports, but not consistent

It wouldn't surprise me;  USB has to be one of the worst connection
types ever devised from a mechanical point of view.  The situation is
not helped by the plethora of cheap poor quality cables and connectors
that abound.  Even worse, spending extra money on 'high quality' parts
offers no guarantee of success because the 'phone, mobo, hub, whatever,
you plug cables into are also likely to be using crap parts.

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Re: why bookworm isn't called deb12?

2023-07-07 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 16:08:44 -0500
John Hasler  wrote:

Hello John,

>That processor was targeted at embedded systems and it made sense in
>some applications.  I don't understand why anyone would put it in a
>desktop.

Cost.

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Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 23:34:50 +0200
Emanuel Berg  wrote:

Hello Emanuel,

>Maybe the UK roads also follow a system.

They certainly did.  The remnants can be seen still.  Maybe wikipedia
has an article about it - I've not checked.  A DDG (or other search
engine) lookup would find something.

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Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 23:33:23 +0200
Emanuel Berg  wrote:

Hello Emanuel,

>days, they want their product or project to come up first if
>anyone Googles them.


What comes up first is the company with biggest wallet.  Name, or
number, matters not one iota.


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Re: Why does Debian have code names for releases?

2023-07-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 18:28:49 +0200
Emanuel Berg  wrote:

Hello Emanuel,

>But M5 can be a bolt size and a lot of other things as well,

Context!  When the conversation is about roads in the UK, why would
*anyone* think bolt size?

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Re: problem with local DNS

2023-06-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 05 Jun 2023 08:49:11 +0200
Michel Verdier  wrote:

Hello Michel,

>I already answered to your problem :

I suspect OP is of the belief that we will respond to them directly and,
as a consequence, they are not reading the list.

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Re: Isn't KDE Live ISO accompanied by an ultra-light Windows Manager, like OpenBox is with LXDE?

2023-05-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 30 May 2023 07:33:10 +0530
"Susmita/Rajib"  wrote:

Hello Susmita/Rajib,

>Mailing Lists don't ban anyone from posting.

No, but moderators do.  People (well, email addresses) certainly *can*
be blacklisted.

Now, whether or not your contact is blacklisted here, only the list
admin know.  Whether they'll confirm, or deny, I couldn't say.

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Re: problem with gcin: Maybe another XIM server is running.

2023-05-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 26 May 2023 21:12:06 +0100
Brad Rogers  wrote:

>You only need one;  Picked according to your preference.  They all do
>the same thing, but use different toolkits.

That said, having them all installed may not be the problem.

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Re: problem with gcin: Maybe another XIM server is running.

2023-05-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 27 May 2023 01:55:47 +0800
hl  wrote:

Hello hl,

>Thank Brad! these three packages are installed, error message remain
>same

You only need one;  Picked according to your preference.  They all do
the same thing, but use different toolkits.

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Re: problem with gcin: Maybe another XIM server is running.

2023-05-26 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 26 May 2023 16:07:17 +0800
hl  wrote:

Hello hl,

>i use bullseye for amd64 and install gcin

Did you also install one of;
gcin-gtk2-immodule
gcin-gtk3-immodule
gcin-qt5-immodule

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Re: What does "freeze" mean in Debian?

2023-05-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 25 May 2023 10:06:16 +0200
Hans  wrote:

Hello Hans,

>What did I not understand? For me "freeze" means "stay at actual status
>and do only necessary changes for security or breaking reasons".

It's that.  Only "essential"(1) updates are permitted.  If you think
there are a large number of updates now, wait until a few days after the
release of bookworm and then see the slew of updates that arrive in
testing.

(1) For certain values of "essential".  Values (plural) because what
constitutes essential seems to vary from package to package and day to
day.

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Re: video issue following latest bullseye update

2023-05-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 17 May 2023 10:15:28 -0600
"D. R. Evans"  wrote:

Hello D.,

>Is it OK that that will also be removed?

As Felix says, "Yes."

Further to that, you may also remove, at your discretion, any video
driver you do not use.

In the interest of full disclosure;
I've never bothered myself.  Video drivers are small (by current
standards) and drive space available here is large.

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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

2023-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 May 2023 16:26:20 -0400
chris  wrote:

Hello chris,

>Any update on the status of this Epson printer? The world is dying to
>know the outcome of this saga

We're back to the beginning;
  It doesn't print.
No other info.
OP is either;
 beyond help,
 rubbish AI,
or
 trolling.

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Re: Was it a good idea to buy an Epson printer?

2023-05-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 9 May 2023 15:04:19 +
Schwibinger Michael  wrote:

Hello Schwibinger,

>the printer is not printing.
>
>Is this a better explanation?

No.

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Re: EPSON ET M 1120 new printer: If You can read this, you are using the wrong driver

2023-05-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 8 May 2023 12:37:35 -0400
chris  wrote:

Hello chris,

>Are we at the point yet where this has enough attention it would have
>been cheaper to crowd fund a new printer?? 藍藍

(smiley noted)

I'm betting even that wouldn't work;  At this point, I'm of the opinion
(after a quick glance through some of the earlier posts in this thread)
that the OP may have installed the driver from Debian but has not fired
up CUPS to actually make use of it.

Given their obvious difficulties with English (not their native tongue,
so entirely understandable) help from this point would have most likely
have to take the form of paying them a visit.

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Re: relevance of packages in repositories

2023-05-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 8 May 2023 07:12:12 +0200
Oliver Schoede  wrote:

Hello Oliver,

>It was already concluded we're supposed to be talking about Neovim, the

Not really.  OP hasn't been back to clarify, but version numbers appear
to support the hypothesis.  However, that's not a guarantee of accuracy.

Another conclusion would be that the OP was simply indulging in drive-by
griping.  Available evidence currently supports this, but future events
may render the conclusion false. 

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Re: disk usage for /usr/lib on bullseye

2023-05-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 1 May 2023 12:10:08 -0600
Charles Curley  wrote:

Hello Charles,

>Ah. I don't recall that I've ever tried that. Maybe one should
>experiment on a throw-away VM. :-)

Go ahead:  What's life without a little jeopardy?   :-)

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Re: disk usage for /usr/lib on bullseye

2023-05-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 01 May 2023 14:09:56 -0400
Stefan Monnier  wrote:

Hello Stefan,

>The main downside is usually that you won't be able to access

Or reboot, into a working system,  if it's the *only* kernel.  But
hey... :-)

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Re: disk usage for /usr/lib on bullseye

2023-05-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 1 May 2023 11:06:25 -0600
Charles Curley  wrote:

Hello Charles,

>to not purge the two most recent kernel packages, and especially not
>the kernel you are currently running on.

If memory serves, should one try to do that, warnings are issued.

Not quite HAL in "2001, A Space Odyssey", but near enough.   :-)

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Re: debian stretch Sources update error,can anyone support?

2023-04-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 17:08:10 +0800
justzx  wrote:

Hello justzx,


>W: The repository 'http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-current
>stretch-backports Release' does not have a Release file.

Usually means your url is malformed.  The 404 errors later seem to
corroborate this.

See http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/ for advice on how to correctly
format your urls.

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Re: Commands service and systemctl.

2023-04-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:47:21 +0200
Michel Verdier  wrote:

Hello Michel,

>anacron is launched from systemd
>/lib/systemd/system/anacron.service
>/lib/systemd/system/anacron.timer

Unless;


anacron (2.3-36) unstable; urgency=medium

  If you run Debian testing/unstable and ever installed anacron 2.3-33 on
  a systemd based system, then anacron will no longer be enabled and the
  daily/weekly/monthly cron jobs will not be run until it is.



I'm sure most people affected by the issue (I was one of them) have now
corrected it.  However, just in case, here's how to find out if you are
affected and the solution;



  To see if a system is affected you can use these commands:

zgrep -i anacron.*2.3-33 /var/log/apt/history.log*
systemctl status anacron.service anacron.timer

  To re-enable anacron you can use these commands:

sudo systemctl enable anacron.service anacron.timer
sudo systemctl start anacron.service anacron.timer


Credit to: Lance Lin  Wed, 11 Jan 2023 21:15:22 +0700
(who included the above as part of an anacron update)

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Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 12:38:37 -0400
Jeffrey Walton  wrote:

Hello Jeffrey,

>I don't think I would blame GMail for that. Maybe it's the sender's MUA?

It's well known that google discard what they see as 'duplicate'
messages.  It is nothing to do with the sender's MUA.

Always remember google's 'email' offering is non-RFC compliant in
various areas, and should therefore be treated with suspicion.

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Re: Mailing list usage questions

2023-04-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:08:51 +
"Andrew M.A. Cater"  wrote:

Hello Andrew,

>If you are subscribed to the mailing list and you post, you should see
>a copy turn up in your mailing list mails 

Unless your email provider is google, or somebody covertly using google.

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Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 15:13:22 +0530
"Susmita/Rajib"  wrote:

Hello Susmita/Rajib,

>Sometimes I have difficulties understanding some emails.

That's understandable if, as I'm assuming, English is not your first
language.

>Could you please elaborate a little further please?

Use a quote style like everybody else does.  Do not add all the
references in the body. Doing so serves no purpose.

>My need is fulfilled. So I requested Mr. Davidson's permission to
>close this thread.

You don't need permission, you just thank those that assisted you for
their help, and move on.  You may, also add something like [SOLVED] to
the subject line in that message to make it clear to others that your
needs have been satisfied.

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Re: Which Diff tool could I use for visually comparing two text files where Word Wrap is possible?

2023-04-09 Thread Brad Rogers
Please be are that people here are volunteering their time, and time is
a precious commodity.  Would you therefore, make life easy for them by
using a convention quoting style in your messages to the list.

Persist with the style you currently employ and you will find that
people's desire to help wanes.

In short;  Help us to help you.

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Re: Bullseye and hplip install

2023-04-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 17:24:09 +0200
Christoph Brinkhaus  wrote:

Hello Christoph,

>I have run hp-check just for curiosity. It reports a lot of missing
>stuff.

You need to read the output carefully;  Much of that missing stuff may
well be related to build environment only.  If you installed hplip from
Debian repos, that would explain some (many?) of the errors/warnings.

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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 23:28:23 +0200 (CEST)
l0f...@tuta.io wrote:

Hello l0f...@tuta.io,

>Interesting theory but I can play that specific video in my browser
>without being logged in ;)

Weird;  I had to log in first.  No idea why your experience differs.
Still, as this doesn't forward the core issue, I'll leave it there.

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Re: youtube-dl → yt-dlp, was Re: OT: Detecting ISP throttling (was: Re: Potentially OT. Videos lagging & buffering in any browser but Google Chrome.)

2023-03-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 22:55:05 +0200 (CEST)
l0f...@tuta.io wrote:

Hello l0f...@tuta.io,

>In your case, yt-dlp falls back on its generic extractor (documentation
>says "Generic downloader that works on some sites") but it doesn't work
>for familysearch.org visibly...

Largely, I suspect, it's because to access video on that FamilySearch
page, one is required to be logged in.  IDK whether yt-dlp can handle
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Re: [HEALED] Re: Something tweaked my Firefox appearance

2023-03-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:45:11 -0400
"hobie of RMN"  wrote:

Hello hobie,

>Thanks, Dan and Brad. :)  I rebooted the machine (not just the desktop)

YW.

>and everything returned to normal.  Go figure. :)

Sometimes, sh* err, "stuff 'appens"   :-)

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Re: bookworm sha256sum may be defective

2023-03-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 11:07:18 -0400
Jude DaShiell  wrote:

Hello Jude,

>Jude  "There are four boxes to be used in
>defense of liberty:

Etc, etc.

As witty and important as it is, please put all your sig behind a valid
separator.

Thank you.

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Re: Something tweaked my Firefox appearance

2023-03-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 02:49:28 -0400
"hobie of RMN"  wrote:

Hello hobie,

>I guess I should be looking for a place to adjust settings of the window
>manager..?

That tends to adjust settings globally.  If other windows haven't
changed in appearance, then everything else /might/ end up with fonts
smaller than you would like.

To affect Ff only, you may wish to investigate using userChrome.css;
This file will be in a directory called chrome, somewhere under the
~/.mozilla directory.  There should be an example CSS file there you
can use as a template.

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Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 17:57:12 +0100
Yvan Masson  wrote:

Hello Yvan,

>Yes, I did that, but thanks for the suggestion.

NP.  Shame it didn't help.
>
>As I do not always use X11, I am thinking that maybe my issue has begun 
>on a previous update…

Always a possibility.

Another possibility is that, somehow, part of your config has got
corrupted.  What happens if you try as a different user?

As an aside;
I've got a few niggles here (predating what you're experiencing by
several months) that I can't solve by regular means.  When they get
to be too much, and I can stomach the pain, I'll move my current config
out of the way, and start over with a clean slate.  One of the issues
seems to be due to corruption of configs, as the fault doesn't manifest
itself in a test user I have set up for the purpose of fault evaluation.

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Re: Strange application menus (File, Edit…) behaviour since last update

2023-03-09 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 18:02:42 +0100
Yvan Masson  wrote:

Hello Yvan,

>Thanks for your insights,

You have a lot of Plasma related updates there.  Have you;

Logged out and back in?
or
Rebooted?

I found I had a few issues after the upgrade from 5.26 to 5.27.  A
reboot solved some of them (update coincided with a kernel update), but I
did have to run System Settings to get the themes looking right again.

All that said, my issues didn't include activation problems.

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Re: hplip : looking for a workaround

2023-02-22 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 17:49:13 +0100
Erwan David  wrote:

Hello Erwan,

>I opend a bug for a missing dependency, but do someone know of a 
>workaround ?

Further to Celejar's response, I can confirm that editing password.py as
suggested in the bug report he mentions, does indeed work.

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Re: Web page management.

2023-02-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 14:18:31 -0500
Dan Ritter  wrote:

Hello Dan,

>Sure. The thing you're looking at is the uBlock Origin widget,

Are you sure?  Looks more like uMatrix to me.  Note the icon in the
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Re: what do I need to add to my sources.list for the new non-free-firmware repository?

2023-01-31 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:03:51 -0800
"Rick Thomas"  wrote:

Hello Rick,

>So what do I need to add to my sources.list file to get them back now?

There was an announcement a few days ago, saying what to do.  Typically,
I cannot find it ATM.

However, you simply need to add;
   non-free-firmware
To the relevant part(s) of your sources.list file.

How you go about that may depend on what you use to do software updates.

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Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 12:11:33 -0500
Timothy M Butterworth  wrote:

Hello Timothy,

>I did not try a new user. I did try deleting "~/.config/pulseaudio"

Sorry to say, I've reached the limit of my knowledge on the subject.
:-(

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Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 29 Jan 2023 07:22:02 -0500
Timothy M Butterworth  wrote:

Hello Timothy,

>I upgraded to 5.27beta so far no new issues. I just installed Wayland

Good to know.  Thanks for the info.

>so I can try it out. My sound cards are still not working though.

Have you tried;

(a) checking volume levels
because sometimes things get 'fiddled with' on update.

(b) with a new user
to try and ascertain whether it's unique to your usual
user or an across the board problem.

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Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 10:41:38 -0500
Timothy M Butterworth  wrote:

Hello Timothy,

>I am looking forward to 5.27beta! It has a lot of good improvements.

As I suggested, the migration to testing has started today.  I'm holding
off for a few days to be sure (well, as sure as I can be) that
everything necessary for a smooth upgrade has migrated.

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Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 05:04:59 -0500
Timothy M Butterworth  wrote:

Hello Timothy,

>This appears to be a KDE issue. Is anyone else having this problem?
>Please note the problem started after installing KF5-102 and a reboot.

KDE Plasma is undergoing big changes ATM.  Soon(1) Plasma 5.27beta
(2) will start transitioning to testing.  Things are going
to be sticky until everything is in sync.  That said you could, of
course, still have run into some bug or other, I couldn't say.

When large numbers of suite(3) packages start arriving in testing(4), I
usually hold off a day or two before I update in an attempt to be sure
everything upgrades in sync.  Because, as you've found out, although
things can upgrade without any apparent issue, they may leave your
desktop in an undesirable state.

That's all part of running testing, of course.  In fact, it's the reason
testing exists.

(1)  Probably tomorrow
(2)  Versioned as 4:5.26.90-1
(3)  By which I mean things like Plasma, Gnome, etc.
(4)  In this particular case KDE packages from 5.101.* to 5.102.*

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Re: Bookworm 1/28/23 updates - No Audio Devices Found

2023-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jan 2023 07:37:01 -0500
Timothy M Butterworth  wrote:

Hello Timothy,

>I forgot to mention that I am using Bookworm.

It *was* in the subject header.   :-)

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Re: Vulnerable git in bullseye - what's the process?

2023-01-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:56:31 +
Tixy  wrote:

Hello Tixy,

>Does it? It links to a bug which says it's been fixed in sid. And the

To be fair, the page lists more than just that;  It lists the status
for everything from Buster to Sid.

Add that to the info given by Greg Wooledge (thank you Greg) about the
Security Team's activities, and we can see that's all the info there is.

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Re: Vulnerable git in bullseye - what's the process?

2023-01-27 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 11:36:12 +0100
"Sijmen J. Mulder"  wrote:

Hello Sijmen,

The security-tracker CVE page you cited has links to all the
information you requested.

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Re: xfce install

2022-12-24 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 24 Dec 2022 14:24:03 +0100
steef van duin  wrote:

Hello steef,

>gretting the response 'cannot find xfce4'   when i 

You don't say what installation medium you used or what method of
installation, but if you used either CD or DVD it might be that you still
have the installation disk(s) set as repository, and not an online repo.
If that's the case, it is possible that xfce may not be available to you.

For a start, check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
to find out what repos you're using.  

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