Re: Banning a user from posting to Debian lists
just checking -- CK
Re: The current package wpasupplicant doesn't support WPA3-Personal authentication. What alternatives to it exist?
> you refused to recognize that the sub-heading contradicts with the > so-called package's description Yes yes, so file a bug report as recommended. > three decades younger than you but you don't have to sound patronizing or > condescending. You started the war. What's wrong with being old? You established you're three decades younger but what's your BMI? -- CK
Re: systemd-timesyncd
> Quit using Google search. Use DuckDuckGo. Use StartPage instead, aka ixquick.com -- System Information GTK 3.24.39 / GLib 2.78.3 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 6.6.9-amd64 (x86_64)
Re: systemd and timezone
apt-listchanges: News - tzdata (2023d-1) unstable; urgency=medium From 2023c-8 on the tzdata package ships only timezones that follow the current rules of geographical region (continent or ocean) and city name. All legacy timezone symlinks (old or merged timezones mentioned in the upstream backward file) were moved to tzdata-legacy. This includes the US/* timezones. Please install tzdata-legacy in case you need the legacy timezones or to restore the previous behavior. This might be needed in case the system provides timezone-aware data over the network (e. g. SQL databases). -- Benjamin Drung Tue, 02 Jan 2024 14:17:33 +0100 What's wrong with NTP, too simple? # dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Current default time zone: 'America/New_York' Local time is now: Fri Jan 5 20:58:45 EST 2024. Universal Time is now: Sat Jan 6 01:58:45 UTC 2024. -- System Information GTK 3.24.39 / GLib 2.78.3 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 6.6.9-amd64 (x86_64)
Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince
> Try xpdf, but be aware it doesn't support forms nor other special stuff > in PDF like video. qpdfview is awfully simple. #apt install qpdfview (does well with trixie and sid) It prints well with CUPS that provides a driver for my Kyocera FS-920 b laser printer. That printer is 15 years old. For the first 10 years there was no driver for it. (generic laser printer) The older your printer is the better it will work with CUPS. -- CK
Re: PATH question
> apt-get -f install dpkg --configure -a I had to use that this morning after the many nvidia related updates that failed to build the module required to set up the packages in waiting. -- CK
Re: Request advice on Optimal Combo-usage of Gmail and Mailman, as mentioned in Msg-Id. "2023/11/msg00443"
> If you ever do find one, please let me know. The lack of such a thing is > the primary reason why I don't do E-mail on Android *at all*. https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail I use this. It is what you want. -- CK
Re: No 6.5.8 RT kernel image?
I don't know this image. I run Trixie and Sid and have 6.5.0-3-amd64 -- CK
Re: Can't upgrade my desktop
> I can't upgrade, I cant' fix--broken install, I mean that whatever I > try, same error message ... I have seen these responses before when I didn't have all the apt repositories I needed listed in /etc/apt/sources.list e.g. trixie sources. This is what they look like these day: deb https://ftp.debian.org/debian trixie main non-free contrib non-free-firmware Substitute 'sid' 'testing' 'experimental' bookworm' and 'bookworm-security' for trixie in the above example and that should cover all your apt sources needs. (your respective country notwithstanding) -- CK
Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues
I just have a really large list of UTF-8 characters and if I need one I copy it and zap it in. I suppose this is not cool but, chacun a son gout. a fun site if you want to write someone in UTF-8 runes. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt ⅩⅩⅥ - Ⅷ - ⅯⅯⅩⅩⅢ -- ☢ ➛ ☠ ➛ ♺
Re: Package policy?
It's the Lord's will Hans, you have to accept it. Follow the prophet sid. -- Deo Soli Debianea Invicto Seculari
Re: package managers problem
> As far as I know, apt is pretty much apt-get If you're using Debian 12 then the -get is gone. #apt [a command] & #dpkg [a command] Should cover any package management you would want. -- salve Debian invictus pgpK1eYZBjaIa.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Ok so Now which backup should I use
When you have things going your way, why not just image the whole disc and sleep well. I have used this for years. It is proprietary yes, and runs on an old version of Linux. https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-linux/ I have no interest in these people, I don't get a commission for advertising them. If you duel boot you can also make an image of that other OS too, keep them both on a single disc using their respective file systems on two partitions named for the purpose. GParted working from a bootable disc or stick, works well for setting that up. IFL you put on something that can be booted first in case things are really screwed. It is pretty straight forward with no surprises. An image before a large dist-upgrade especially with the word nvidia in the list of packages, I would do without hesitation. -- salve debian invictum
Re: nvidia-driver gets a code 1
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free non-free-firmware not deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware ? -- CK
Re: nvidia-driver gets a code 1
Ah so a typo. A small thing causing big problems. Once that was corrected the necessary files from firmware were included in an apt update and eventually the full-upgrade without nvidia-kernel-dkms being held back. Everything resolved after that. Thanks -- CK
Re: nvidia-driver gets a code 1
Anssi, thanks for your reply. When Andreas Beckmann added this URL to his apt disclosure: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#non-free-split He does give a useful example of how the entry should look in /etc/apt/sources/list like this: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware and so I did that and it matched up well with the other deb entries excepting for the last part 'firmware' When I did apt update with the new entry I got this warning message: W: Failed to fetch https://deb/debian.org/debian/dists/bookworm/InRelease Could not resolve 'deb' on running apt full-upgrade I see this: the following packages have been kept back: nvidia-kernel-dkms This means then nothing can happen until whatever is holding back nvidia-kernel-dkms is resolved because it must provide the missing nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02. Andreas Beckmann is saying adding deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free-firmware to the /etc/apt/sources.list will install the firmware for nvidia-kernel-dkms that will then create nvidia-open-kernel. Until apt can resolve the mystery of 'non-free-firmware.' In my /etc/apt/apt/sources.list the entry was accepted until I got to the word firmware and that was whited out and deb can't be resolved. So, the cart is before the horse maybe, but there is more we cannot see. -- Charles Kroeger
nvidia-driver gets a code 1
System Information GTK 3.24.36 / GLib 2.74.5 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 6.1.0-3-amd64 (x86_64) aka Debian 12 bookworm/testing I ran nvidia-detect: ~# nvidia-detect Detected NVIDIA GPUs: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] [10de:1d01] (rev a1) Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] (rev a1) Your card is supported by all driver versions. Your card is also supported by the Tesla drivers series. Your card is also supported by the Tesla 470 drivers series. It is recommended to install the nvidia-driver on doing a dist-upgrade dpkg says this: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of nvidia-driver: nvidia-driver depends on nvidia-kernel-dkms (= 525.89.02-1) | nvidia-kernel-525.89.02 | nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 | nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02; however: Version of nvidia-kernel-dkms on system is 515.86.01-1. Package nvidia-kernel-525.89.02 is not installed. Package nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 is not installed. Package nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 is not installed. This wouldn't seem too much of a problem, just install nvidia-open-kernel-525-89.02, right? # apt install nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Package nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source Where is this nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02 ? There was an advisory by Andreas Beckmann the firmware-gsp package being moved to the newly created 'non-free-firmware' archive area. This area needs to be enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list) in addition to 'non-free' in order to upgrade to the 525 driver series. He gives this locaton: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#non-free-split however my /etc/apt/sources.list uses a different syntax to the location Andreas has given and so it can't be read. I attempted to make his location fit the syntax but then apt didn't trust the site and wouldn't use it in the update I need to get nvidia-driver working. Without this driver there is also no sound. I did make an image of the drive before doing the upgrade or I wouldn't be writing this. I did a dpkg -s nvidia-driver and got a lot of stuff about it but there was this: Please see the nvidia-kernel-dkms (nvidia-open-kernel-dkms) or nvidia-kernel-source (nvidia-open-kernel-source) packages for building the kernel module required by this package. This will provide nvidia-kernel-525.89.02 (nvidia-open-kernel-525.89.02). C. Kroeger --help
Re: Firewall blocking my new Debian 11 server ports 80 and 443
> Maybe I should remove all firewall progs and start from zero. I would suggest you install Shorewall. it is not the pain in the arse that's been the theme of this thread so far.
Re: setting path for root after "sudo su" and "sudo" for Debian Bullseye (11)
> There is no silver bullet that makes your system secure. I get a login shell with $su --login I don't have sudo installed is there something heretical about that, I should know?
Re: ogg123, ALSA and Pulseaudio
> PulseAudio is waning and Pipewire is waxing; > WirePlumber is a session manager for Pipewire. ah, just so, I am glad it is.
Re: ogg123, ALSA and Pulseaudio
>Note: I'm using Debian/unstable. I'm using Bookworm as well. I was just happy at first that I had some reliable sound again. but I don't use my desktop with Bluetooth or headphones as you've described in your bug report. Pipewire is waning and WirePlumber is waxing. I'll put it that way.
Re: ogg123, ALSA and Pulseaudio
from a google search: In Debian 10, PipeWire 0.2. 5 is available, and should not need to manually be installed, as it's usually brought in as a dependency by applications that make use of it. In Debian 11, PipeWire 0.3. 19 is available, and can be experimentally used as a substitute for the ALSA userspace library, PulseAudio, and JACK. Apr 5, 2022 then read about WirePlumber. it is time consuming and there are many published instructions, some better than others. WirePlumber and Pipewire are getting frequent upgrades and for me they are increasingly reliable and the sound is really good. my System GTK 3.24.33 / GLib 2.72.1 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 5.17.0-2-amd64 (x86_64)
Re: swap maxed out when plenty of RAM available
I use dphys-swapfile this is a system service that auto configures a swap at boot without requiring a static partition. it computes the size of an optimal swap file and or resizes an existing swap file if necessary. it mounts, dismounts, and deletes the swap if not wanted. it doesn't dynamically resize swap during runtime. -- pa'lante
Re: about 10th new install of bullseye
replace the GPU card Gene it's kaput. C
Re: vipw and vigr default editor
if you're in a hurry in this situation try: apt-get remove --purge nano problem solved? -- CK
Re: Cannot connect to WiFi.
you can edit the: # /etc/network/interfaces file and put your key there in the appropriate place if it does not start on its own try: #service networking restart see if you can connect that way. sorry I don't use 'network manger,' I never like it. -- CK pgpTzbktm3yMv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: suspend/resume device
> That "apt-listchanges" package comes in handy thanks for that tip, I have it installed now. -- CK pgp0IIh2byNkp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: /tmp/.X0-lock
> Does the PID in the lock file correspond to a running process? > > ps -f `cat /tmp/.X0-lock` I get nothing from that command > Are there any running instances of an X server? > > ps -fC Xorg UIDPID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD root 2994 2812 0 17:36 tty7 00:01:23 /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolist that would be the one I'm using. I will try that command after stopping the X-server after stopping the X-server I ran: ps --fC Xorg UID PID PPID C STIME TTY TIME CMD on running startx (as user) the X server failed to start with these error messages: (EE) could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock Xinit: unable to connect to X server: connection refused Xauth: error in locking authority file /home/charles/.Xauthority the contents of this file is some machine language symbols and some english -MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 (and) mundo 0 -MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 (and that is all) thanks for being patient, -- CK pgpt6yEc6GH2R.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: suspend/resume device [SOLVED]
thank you Cindy-Sue, I did have both of those files but the one with RESUME in it and it did list a mysterious UUID device number (I don't know where it got that as this is a desktop but it does get a lot of dist-upgrades I'll admit) so that's the one I removed and added 'none' in its place. the other file /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf didn't mention the resume device, so it had its own file. (maybe I should just remove that file?) anyway, well done you and all the best. -- CK pgpujxbhJDiQS.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: /tmp/.X0-lock
>ls -ld /tmp drwxrwxrwt 10 root root 20480 May 5 18:58 /tmp (looks good) >ls -l /tmp/.S0-lock -r--r--r-- 1 root root 11 May 5 17:36 /tmp/.X0-lock >df /tmp Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdc1 245996848 42724396 203256068 18% / > If /tmp/.X0-lock already exists, is there another instance of the X > server running (with that PID? Or did a previous instance crash without > removing it?> not that I know of how do you tell if there's another X server running. I mean there is after I do a sysvinit boot (from the grub advanced menu) but on a reboot of course the X server obviously shuts down (or does it?) -- CK pgpTvuzSQSKrH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
systemd-fstab-generator failed to create mount
the whole error message is: systemd-fstab-generator failed to create mount unit five /run/systemd/generator/-.mount as it already exit possible duplicate entry in /etc/fstab? I've enclosed my fstab file: # proc/proc procdefaults0 0 #ata-Hitachi /dev/sdb1 UUID=8c502a23-b2ab-4670-b4e8-86d79b595aa5/ ext4errors=remount-ro 0 0 #ata-Hitachi /dev/sdb2 "BACKUP" UUID=71e15b9e-e549-4157-a9dc-1288c4a5a20e/ ext4errors=remount-ro 0 0 #ata-Crucial /dev/sdc1 UUID=81183740-7329-4088-b467-4c24c4345f67/ ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 0 /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 if systemd-fstab-generator is now making its own fstab file, should we delete our old one? -- CK pgpxxhYq2AKrr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
suspend/resume device
on a normal boot I get a long wait (30 seconds +-) whilst the cursor winks then the message: waiting on suspend/resume device, before resuming the steps to boot to a login prompt. -- CK pgpPyMPjo4Wft.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
/tmp/.X0-lock
running freshly upgraded kernel image 4.9.0.3 on normal boot with startx command but getting the following error message from (X server) xorg: could not create lock file in /tmp/.X0-lock (the contents of, are the numbers 2994) unable to connect to the X server: connection refused there's a lot about this problem on the Internet but the information is quite old and nothing applies to my present problem, it would seem. happily and also the reason I'm writing this letter (et.al) is that I can still use the sysvinit boot option that presents a graphical login and after that starts the X server. (I then have to run 'service network restart' to connect to the Internet and there is complaining about that being deprecated but good thing something works. there's more error messages I've decided to keep as separate post, in the spirit of helping others down the line. -- CK pgpwSVAEELYnJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Issues running VLC on Xserver
On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 06:00:02 +0100 Himanshu Shekharwrote: > I have been using VLC for playing videos, as it scales up the video to fit > the screen even if the size of video doesn't match the screen size. This > was done using "Always fit windows" settings. However, after some recent > update (no idea which one), videos with smaller resolution doesn't scale > up. They run in the middle of the screen, and when "always fit windows" is > checked, it runs in the same size in the top left corner of the window. > Things work fine in GNOME Videos. > This is not the same everywhere, as when I login to "GNOME on Wayland", VLC > work fine. There is no issue. > > Also, when I change "Hardware accelerated decoding" to X11 codecs, few > videos work well (mp4/mkv/avi), while sometimes (now-a-days frequent), > entire RAM gets used up. On running VLC from Terminal, I saw some messages > about segmentation fault. I don't know, try: $ vlc --reset-config -- CK
Re: Problems with VLC in jessie
On Mon, 08 Feb 2016 19:10:01 +0100 "Juan R. de Silva"wrote: > > If that does not help, please share the output of vlc -vvv. > > Well, I did... You might as well try this: $ vlc --reset-config -- CK
Re: getting sound in Sid
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:00:02 +0100 Floriswrote: > Op Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:25:20 +0100 schreef Haines Brown > : > > > I apparently have ALSA on Debian Sid on a Thinkpad, or at least > > alsa-mixer seems set up correctly. But $ speaker-test makes no sound. > > > > # lspci | grep audio returns nothing. So I wondered if alsa drivers are > > installed. Soundcore is installed, but I discovered there is no longer > > any alsa-modules package. > > The alsa modules are named snd_*** > You can check your loaded modules with > $ lsmod | grep snd > > > > > In Sid has ALSA been replaced by pavucontrol? To get sound, must I > > install it? > > > Alsa is build-in in the kernel. > pavucontrol is just a gui for the pulseaudio mixer. It is up to you > if you install it or use an other mixer > > Floris First using # dpkg -l grep | alsa everything listed, remove with # dpkg -P (packages) You can list them all with a space between each for a sequential purge. Copy and paste is useful here. then: apt-get install pavucontrol I don't know why but this solution got sound working again for me after a long fight with different configuration files that controlled ALSA. pavucontrol might just be another mixer but it's more than that because it will bring with it those necessary things to have sound on your computer (again) The ALSA era is now over for we the unstable. pavucontrol will likely find your sound output device when it installs. After installation you should test for sound before tinkering with the GUI. It should work, and it probably will. -- CK
Re: Debian "testing" is looking really great on my new "Skylake" PC
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:30:03 +0100 Lisi Reisz <lisi.re...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday 20 January 2016 22:25:55 Charles Kroeger wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:50:02 +0100 > > > > Jarle Aase <j...@jgaa.com> wrote: > > > I just wanted to share > > > > Where's Stan Hooper when you need him? I miss your hardware critiques Stan > > better weigh in here. > > Maybe we've lost him? I do hope not! But he doesn't seem to have posted for > about 18 months. > > Lisi Stan's like Emiliano Zapata, he's always out there on his white horse. -- CK
Re: Latest NVIDIA driver (346.96) issue
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:10:01 +0100 Pascal Obrywrote: > Since yesterday update of NVIDIA 346.96-1 I get an error about uvm > module: > > The module is compiled (dkms): > > $ ls -la /lib/modules/4.3.0-1-amd64/updates/dkms/nv* > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11730792 Jan 20 09:08 /lib/modules/4.3.0-1-amd64/updates/dkms/nvidia-current.ko > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111776 Jan 20 09:08 /lib/modules/4.3.0-1-amd64/updates/dkms/nvidia-current-uvm.ko > > But cannot be loaded: > > $ sudo modprobe nvidia-current-uvm > modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_current_uvm': Invalid argument > > Any idea? > > Thanks, > Try # apt-get -f install For some reason the headers and dkms have not been together on these upgrades. dkms has had a problem finding the headers to compile the module. I think # apt-get update will be good now and -f will install what you need. pure conjecture of course -- CK
Re: Debian "testing" is looking really great on my new "Skylake" PC
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 08:50:02 +0100 Jarle Aasewrote: > I just wanted to share Where's Stan Hooper when you need him? I miss your hardware critiques Stan better weigh in here. -- CK
Re: error message after apt-get update
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 05:20:01 +0100 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Sat, November 28, 2015 8:50 pm, Charles Kroeger wrote: > > I was hoping someone might know what this message means after running > > apt-get update: > ... > > Reading package lists... Done > > W: Problem unlinking the file q - Clean (21: Is a directory) > > Now and then something gets corrupted with apt. A fix I have needed once > or twice a year is (if I recall correctly) to delete the directory > /var/lib/apt/lists. > > Russ Ah, thanks so much..the offending q directory was in there (///lists) so I just deleted that instead, but all is now well. -- CK
error message after apt-get update
I was hoping someone might know what this message means after running apt-get update: Reading package lists... Done W: Problem unlinking the file q - Clean (21: Is a directory) I cannot find any directory named 21 or Clean. A search with dpkg -l | grep q Clean or 21 turns up a lot of stuff but nothing specific. -- CK
ALSA mystery
I have recently had to replace my old Nvidia graphics card so I got a: GeForce GT730 soon as I did this and a few kernel upgrades later (currently) Linux 4.2.0-1-amd64 my sound card listed in lspci: Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 [Oxygen HD Audio] (that's the driver from my Xonar D1 sound card) was replaced with these two entries in the alsa mixer: IEC958 and IEC958 1 these two are not muted (green speakers) and IEC958 1 is the only one that works in the sense it can be muted and un-muted ALSA Mixer keyboard command but there's no keyboard volume slider control (up down) and no volume shown in IEC958 1 here's some info: /proc/asound/cards 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xfbdfc000 irq 16 /etc/asound.conf pcm.!default { type plug slave.pcm { type hw HDMI 0 device 3 } } (a script I found online and modified card 0 for HDMI 0) # service alsa-utils start Failed to start alsa-utils.service: Unit alsa-utils.service is masked. don't know what this means # alsactl init alsactl: sysfs_init:48: sysfs path '/sys' is invalid Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Nvidia GPU 51 HDMI/DP" "HDA:10de0051,196e1119,00100100" "0x196e" "0x1119" Hardware is initialized using a generic method not sure about this either # aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 The mystery: If I open the VLC media player and select the following audio device: HDA Nvidia HDMI 1 HDMI Audio Output among the list of 'available' audio devices I get sound from my GeForce GT730 using an HDMI cable connected to the back of a Sony TV. (my only HDMI input monitor) So there's sound in VLC and that's good but no sound from the Spotify client or web browsers. why do you think there's no volume available in the operating device (IEC958 1) in the ALSA Mixer? Normally the keyboard command (up down keys) would raise or lower these sliders to indicate volume. This detail might indicate why there's no sound in the Spotify client or web browsers, but if that's so why is there sound in VLC? although I am getting sound from the Audio side of my GeForce GT730 GPU why do you think there is incomplete utilization of the options available in the ALSA Mixer? The VLC player lists the contents of #aplay -L for all audio devices found, where in ALSA can I list this one that works, because I thought it was already listed in /etc/asound.conf (card 0 device 3) this corresponds to the listing in #aplay -l (HDMI 0 device 3) -- CK
Re: Adapter Names on Stretch [OT]
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 07:30:02 +0200 Gene Heskettwrote: > You may well be correct, but to my grandfather they were loaned. I do > know that when they left, each was equipt with a good sturdy tag/label > bareing the owners name & address, well sealed against the elements. He probably heard the expression: "lend-lease" and got it confused with what that meant. Americans are readily confused..and quickly become hysterical. A popular example was that Orson Welles radio show about the Martian invasion..I noticed that is now being revised to show a different story. (a tiny panic practically immeasurable on the night etc. slate.com) How about global warming vaccinations abortions weapons-of-mass-destruction and the 6th mass extinction now in progress. No one ever went broke underestimating them. (H.L. Mencken) -- CK I now start my wireless adapter card with: ifup wlp2s0 how fscked is that? pgpCbTTojpo4I.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: network configuration
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:30:02 +0200 Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Perhaps someone else on the mailing list will have additional suggestions. Hopefully they will be better than my poor contributions here. I would suggest getting into the depths of the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file. You have to marvel at the mind that came up with that but there is a lot of help and examples and creative ways to use it, on the Internet. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cv17kvf7lu...@mid.individual.net
Re: out of the box wifi adapter
This seems like a great alternative: https://tehnoetic.com/tehnoetic-wireless-adapter-gnu-linux-libre-tet-n150 (I haven't tried it myself though). /Andreas gus...@gusnan.se mailingli...@gusnan.se So it does, and I use the libre-Linux kernel 4.03 -gnu myself; however, it should be mentioned from a recent previous exchange of views on a similar free USB adapter using the same Atheros AR9271 driver that regarding the price of €35 (currently the recent 'weakening' of the dollar viz the euro that's $40.00 plus 2.28 shipping) for a device that may only see the 2.5GHz wireless signal. I don't know how busy that signal is in Europe but in the US it is too busy and any adapter costing that much and being used in the US, should now have the ability to connect to the 5.0GHz wireless signal that many wireless routers offer, or it's not worth $40. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/crrs21f42i...@mid.individual.net
[SOLVED]Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
wlan0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:c0:ca:72:68:d4 This also does not happen here. Nor here. The OP's system has failed to get an IP address on the wlan0 interface and has been provided with one by avahi. Maybe the router and/or DHCP provision need exploring as a cause for this. I believe this happened because I applied the command: #ping router-ip-here I don't know if 169.254.10.111 is something that was assigned by the host, or came from outside in which case it might indicate some sort of radio communication has been made. (Hence my statement above.) it was Here's hoping the OP knows how to explore the router and/or DHCP provision. I had set up the router a few months ago to reflect the two channels it delivers, 2.5 and 5.0 GHz respectively. Some of my applications that use the router select 2.5 like a Kobo reader and the Sony PS3. At the moment as WiFi goes only my Sony Xperia phone connects to the 5.0 GHz channel. The OP should be looking at syslog and/or the journalctl output. What avahi-daemon,avahi-autoipd and dhclient get up to should be in there. Posting the relevant lines here could help with a diagnosis and a solution. Thanks for all the suggestions they don't hurt because when looking into one thing something else comes up. I really didn't have a faulty setup for the Penguin USB N type WiFi adapter as I originally thought. I installed a driver from the Penguin site directly into the /lib/firmware directory, the 9k_firmware_free-version/htc_9271.fw I rebooted the computer but this didn't light up the USB adapter. I tried all the available USB sockets and rebooted a few more times, stuff like that, but the Penguin was dead. I was fed up and went to bed shutting off the computer. During the night there was a miraculous like occurrence. When booting up the next morning the 'dead' USB adapter now came on and started trying to connect to the router. Success right? Wrong. Later in the day I was reading about setting up these wireless adapters and ran across this valuable command: #iwlist wlan0 scan by that command all was revealed. There were 19 cells in a 50 yard radius of my adapter (with a hi-gain antenna) including my router but (I guess you've figured it out by now) the adapter or the firmware doesn't 'see' the 5.0-GHz channel. Completely invisible. Only the 2.5 GHz channel was listed in the wlan0 scan. My /etc/network/interfaces file was set up like this: # # # The wireless network interface auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid dlink-5.0GHz what's wrong with this ssid entry wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK wpa-psk the passphrase anyway by changing wpa-ssid dlink-5.0GHz to 2.5GHz the adapter connected promptly and voilà. After all that, joy did not manifold. The down speed of the connection was no good. I pay for 20 Mbits from the cable company but..that depends. This is a Debian story. I ran the Ookla speed test (speedtest.net) connected through the Intel Ethernet card in the PCIe slot wired to the back of the router and speedtest did show 21Mbits. (middle of the morning on a business day) 5 minutes after that the best the USB wireless N adapter could do was 7.0 Mbits down speed. I'm looking into a PCIe wireless card duel channel adapter as an upgrade. Any good experiences out there with a particular kind (for desktop computer with PCIe slot) with free or non-free firmware I would like to hear your story. Thanks for the discussion, it's been real -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cra9ulfgog...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Wed, 06 May 2015 01:10:02 +0200 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Please post the outputs of ifconfig -a and lsmod | grep ath root@mundo:/home/charles# ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:21:4f:60:49 inet addr:192.168.0.102 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21b:21ff:fe4f:6049/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:1051 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:502 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:291611 (284.7 KiB) TX bytes:82072 (80.1 KiB) Interrupt:17 Memory:fbfe-fc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:55 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:55 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:15256 (14.8 KiB) TX bytes:15256 (14.8 KiB) wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:c0:ca:72:68:d4 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) wlan0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:c0:ca:72:68:d4 inet addr:169.254.10.111 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 root@mundo:/home/charles# lsmod | grep ath ath9k_htc 52702 0 ath9k_common 12687 1 ath9k_htc ath9k_hw 341687 2 ath9k_common,ath9k_htc ath21417 3 ath9k_common,ath9k_htc,ath9k_hw mac80211 358182 1 ath9k_htc cfg80211 319971 3 ath,mac80211,ath9k_htc usbcore 134993 6 usb_storage,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,ath9k_htc -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqt5tnft2i...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Tue, 05 May 2015 15:10:02 +0200 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: What do /sbin/iwconfig and /sbin/ifconfig show? ^?ELF^B^A^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^A^@^@^@\^Y@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Xb^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@8^@ ^@@^@^\^@^[^@^F^@^@^@^E^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@@^@^@^@^@^@@^@@^@^@^@^@^@ø^A^@^@^@^@^@^@ø^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^C^@^@^@^D^@^@^@8^B^@^@^@^@^@^@8^B@^@^@^@^@^@8^B@^@^@^@^@^@^\^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^\^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^E^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@8cX^@^@^@^@^@^@8cX^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^F^@^@^@^H^^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^`^@^@^@^@^@^H^`^@^@^@^@^@h^C^@^@^@^@^@^@X^E^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^@^F^@^@^@0^^@^@^@^@^@^@0^`^@^@^@^@^@0^`^@^@^@^@^@°^A^@^@^@^@^@^@°^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^D^@^@^@T^B^@^@^@^@^@^@T^B@^@^@^@^@^@T^B@^@^@^@^@^@D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Påtd^D^@^@^@(S^@^@^@^@^@^@(S@^@^@^@^@^@(S@^@^@^@^@^@¼^@^@^@^@^@^@^@¼^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Qåtd^F^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Råtd^D^@^@^@^H^^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^`^@^@^@^@^@^H^`^@^@^@^@^@ø^A^@^@^@^@^@^@ø^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2^@^D^@^@^@^P^@^@^@^A^@^@^@GNU^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^@^F^@^@^@^Z^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^T^@^@^@^C^@^@^@GNU^@94T¡V8d7Í¡8c86^E97V^ZX¦ÒÜä%^@^@^@7^@^@^@^@^@^@^@'^@^@^@^@^@^@^@+^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ /sbin/iwconfig [noeol][converted] 56L, 33541C ^?ELF^B^A^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^A^@^@^@¾7@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@H^D^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@8^@ ^@@^@^[^@^Z^@^F^@^@^@^E^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@@^@^@^@^@^@@^@@^@^@^@^@^@ø^A^@^@^@^@^@^@ø^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^C^@^@^@^D^@^@^@8^B^@^@^@^@^@^@8^B@^@^@^@^@^@8^B@^@^@^@^@^@^\^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^\^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^E^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^@^@84ë^@^@^@^@^@^@84ë^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^F^@^@^@^Pî^@^@^@^@^@^@^Pî`^@^@^@^@^@^Pî`^@^@^@^@^@H^U^@^@^@^@^@^@98#^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^@^F^@^@^@(î^@^@^@^@^@^@(î`^@^@^@^@^@(î`^@^@^@^@^@Ð^A^@^@^@^@^@^@Ð^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^D^@^@^@T^B^@^@^@^@^@^@T^B@^@^@^@^@^@T^B@^@^@^@^@^@D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Påtd^D^@^@^@¼Î^@^@^@^@^@^@¼Î@^@^@^@^@^@¼Î@^@^@^@^@^@ô^C^@^@^@^@^@^@ô^C^@^@^@^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Qåtd^F^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^P^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Råtd^D^@^@^@^Pî^@^@^@^@^@^@^Pî`^@^@^@^@^@^Pî`^@^@^@^@^@ð^A^@^@^@^@^@^@ð^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^@^@^@^@/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2^@^D^@^@^@^P^@^@^@^A^@^@^@GNU^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^@^F^@^@^@ ^@^@^@^D^@^@^@^T^@^@^@^C^@^@^@GNU^@^S^_9hjMOö«©_Òv.³£Q85J¤^B^@^@^@K^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^F^@^@^@^@^A^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^@^@K^@^@^@9ò8b^\^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^M^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@83^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@8c^@^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@×^A^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Í^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Â^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@·^@^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@8e^A^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@Ç^@^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@$^@^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^R^A^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@96^@^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@@^@^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@²^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@I^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@q^B^@^@^R^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^ /sbin/ifconfig [noeol][converted] 320L, 87918C Are you a machine that's got loose out there and posing as a good natured Englishman? -- CK and /sbin/ifconfig show? Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqsiejfo65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Tue, 05 May 2015 12:10:02 +0200 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: The non-free firmware-atheros package has the firmware for the adapter. I have the 'firmware-atheros' package installed. I take it that's the free non-working version of the non-free package I have non-free sources in my sources.list wonder why it didn't show up? You don't have a location for this do you? I'll also have a look out there. Thanks for the suggestion. That may solve the problem. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqshlefo65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Tue, 05 May 2015 22:30:02 +0200 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Perhaps I wasn't clear! iwconfig and ifconfig are programs that you run. Because /sbin isn't in the user's $PATH, you need to prefix with the pathname. I get this from #ifconfig root@mundo:/home/charles# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1b:21:4f:60:49 inet addr:192.168.0.102 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21b:21ff:fe4f:6049/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:21946 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:12589 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:12859474 (12.2 MiB) TX bytes:1590982 (1.5 MiB) Interrupt:17 Memory:fbfe-fc00 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:72 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:17302 (16.8 KiB) TX bytes:17302 (16.8 KiB) and this from #iwconfig root@mundo:/home/charles# iwcofig bash: iwcofig: command not found root@mundo:/home/charles# iwconfig eth0 no wireless extensions. lono wireless extensions. Thanks for the suggestion David, just fun'in you there. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqsqj2fo65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:30:02 +0200 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: You could try ifconfig wlan0 up to activate the interface before following the remainder of the advice given. I tried that but it complained about not being able to find wlan0 -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqspu7fo65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Tue, 05 May 2015 04:00:02 +0200 David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote: Does dmesg | grep -i firmware show the firmware being loaded? root@mundo:/home/charles# dmesg | grep -i firmware[1.400040] platform microcode: firmware: agent loaded amd-ucode/microcode_amd.bin into memry[ 25.257358] usb 7-2: ath9k_htc: Firmware htc_9271.fw requested[ 25.268624] usb 7-2: firmware: agent loaded htc_9271.fw into memoryroot@mundo:/home/charles# Yes it's there, the ath9k_htc_9271.fw might be the adapter is kaputski -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqqr55fahb...@mid.individual.net
Re: Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
On Tue, 05 May 2015 03:10:01 +0200 James bjloc...@lockie.ca wrote: What is the output from sudo lsusb? root@mundo:/home/charles# lsusb Bus 007 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n that's it there David Wright ask: Do you use anything like wicd to manage the connection, ie bring it back up automatically? no bit of a mystery. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqqqr4fahb...@mid.individual.net
Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter TPE-N150USBL
After using this adapter for a few months (18 months ago) I committed out all my wireless lines in /etc/network/interfaces and stopped using it because it kept breaking the connection at odd times. I have to take a trip and this computer goes with me where I'll need to use WiFi and so I uncommitted out my network interfaces file, loaded the firmware (from the think penguin help site) plugged in the adapter but nothing happens. # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid my ssid, a dlink-dir825 wpa-psk my passphrase I followed these instructions for the latest firmware at the think penguin help site for this adapter: cd /lib/firmware wget https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/ath9k_firmware_free-version/htc_9271.fw wget https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/ath9k_firmware_free-version/htc_7010.fw rebooted the computer however..the adapter is still not connected this after ifup wlan0: # ifup wlan0 wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start run-parts: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wpasupplicant exited with return code 1 Failed to bring up wlan0. any suggestions to what might be missing here? The thinkpenquin wireless N USB adapter bears a remarkable resemblance to the Alfa wireless USB adapter: :-) https://tinyurl.com/n98oajh -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cqqe9mf8a1...@mid.individual.net
Re: Is this an April Fool joke running early ? (Systemd to fork the kernel)
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:50:03 +0200 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: You're not going to get it. The whole thing was an April Fool joke released early. It will live in memory like the spaghetti trees. Those were the days. They were singing while they harvested the spaghetti too. This report came at the end of a serious current events program called Panorama (This was mercifully before the BBC had to say 'on-the-ground' before every report) In the 1970's I was reading The Times while flying to Houston from Heathrow. I had forgotten it was April 1st: there was an article about an amazing discovery whilst experimenting on animals. One of the procedures had inadvertently miniaturized some of the test subjects. This began a line of inquiry that led to experiments on human volunteers. These tests concluded startling additional revelations about how anything within the process chamber was scaled down while retaining its original proportions. During the government's subsequent debate over state secrets there was a leak to the press that was to have a profound impact on the transportation industry, among others. The prospect of thousands of passengers and their luggage shrunk to the size of gelatin capsules and transported in aeroplanes across the globe at a fraction of the current cost, was very exciting to some. It was said that once a passenger arrived at their destination the 'process' would be reversed within a similar chamber with they and their possessions returned to their original size. The Times quoted a statement by Sir Freddie Laker that preparations were well advanced toward Laker Airways offering special flights to accommodate this novel method of travel. There were reports, as yet unsubstantiated, that some volunteers were not able to be returned to their original sizes but these setbacks were not considered to be a major concern to the current plans moving forward. -- CK pgp9BIAmytOqO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Bank draft code 16471
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:30:02 +0100 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Dr.Jim Ovia. Bank Name : Zenith Bank Plc Isn't that Dr. Ovia from Port Harcourt, Nigeria? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cmgqh4fqop...@mid.individual.net
Re: My Friends Make Fun of My UI
On Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:30:05 +0100 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote: I would like to upgrade to Gnome so my desktop looks/feels a bit nicer You seem to be saying you're tired of the minimalist life and want to splash out a bit so there's only XFCE for that. That would be the next step up from LXDE. Before getting a heavier DE you might try first these WM's: Enlightenment IceWM Openbox Blackbox Fluxbox They're lighter than LXDE. I've had experience with Fluxbox on a less powerful machine five years back and it was good for what you 'say' you want. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/clpe59fmpq...@mid.individual.net
Re: remove me from this list
On Thu, 08 Jan 2015 16:30:03 +0100 Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: Well that looks like spam. If a few people mark it as spam it will probably be removed from the archive. Lennart, HEY ! Welcome to the snake pit -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/chgl5ofgue...@mid.individual.net
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:20:02 +0100 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: Still don't know what you have against LibreOffice. It's almost certainly superior to WP51 in every significant way. WP5.1 users have to have 'reveal codes' or they can't use anything else. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cfmuupfi7d...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:50:01 +0100 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Why reboot, you can just use 'mount -a'? By the way, 'auto' and 'rw' are default, no need to set them explicitly. Thanks for this information -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbpm22fa65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 17:30:02 +0100 Peter Nieman gmane-a...@t-online.de wrote: no one has mentioned autofs in this thread No, but I will put it in my list of options for /etc/fstab entry. I assume entries like 'autofs' and 'nofail' will soon be obsolete when 'systemd-fstab-generator' becomes de regueur, eh, Jonathan? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbq02nfa65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 21:00:02 +0100 Eric Sharkey e...@lisaneric.org wrote: autofs isn't an option for /etc/fstab, it's a completely separate way to specify mounts. For something like an sd card, you would add it to something like /etc/auto.misc instead of /etc/fstab. autofs filesystems are not mounted at boot time, but dynamically, when an application tries to access the contents of the mount point. For example, I have this in /etc/autofs.misc: sdcard -fstype=vfat,gid=video,umask=002 :/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic-_SD_MMC_2006041309210-0\:2-part1 and my sdcards are automatically mounted by attempting to read the contents of /var/autofs/misc/sdcard/. Eric Thanks Eric, you can learn a lot of useful stuff on this list if you just keep poking it. Say something wrong get a clarification. That's good. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbqv0jfa65...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 20:10:01 +0100 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com wrote: I see from other messages in this thread that I'm not the only person to think it equally ludicrous to have a workflow that involves rebooting the entire machine just to mount and unmount a removable block device. Indeed, even editing /etc/fstab doesn't need to be part of such a workflow. Just mark the entry as non-automatic (also correcting your spelling mistake that is the root of your problem here, of course) That was only to mount not unmount. For one thing I don't use this removable block device AKA the SD card enough to have it interfere with my precious workflow. As far as the 'incorrect' spelling of the device, that was only misspelled after systemd came into the picture. That line was read in /etc/fstab with no problems (for years) before it became misspelled. I've already corrected the offending spelling of the device and used the NON systemd methodology as recommended by The Wanderer and Martin Read, preempting your delicate sensibilities. So all is well. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cboknlf7e...@mid.individual.net
Re: Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 00:30:02 +0100 The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: I suspect that /dev/sde1 exists, but /dev/sde1/ (with the trailing slash) does not - i.e., /dev/sde1 is a device node, not a directory. Yes, the extra forward slash was there (indicating a directory)..interesting. Anyway. I removed the now offending symbol. Thanks for this information. Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk wrote: Use the well-documented fstab(5) option nofail, which predates the creation of systemd. I replaced 'auto' in the fstab line with 'nofail.' Thanks for this reminder. I will test out the new configuration tomorrow. If you don't hear from me again it worked. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbjc24f9sj...@mid.individual.net
Camera SD card mounting problems (defined by systemd)
I have a line in my /etc/fstab file: #/dev/sde1/ /media/lumix-photos vfat users,rw,auto,iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 Anytime I want to add photos off the SD card in my camera, I comment out the hashmark add the SD card to the reader, and reboot the computer. The SD card is mounted (/dev/sde1/) inside the folder lumix-photos. I then use shotwell to add the new photos that can then be worked over in GIMP. This solution has worked flawlessly for years, until now: log: mount: special device /dev/sde1/ does not exist log: media-lumix\x2dphotos.mount has failed dependency has failed for local file system log: defined-by: systemd Since /dev/sde1 is listed and described from the fdisk -l command how can it 'not' exits? What is meant by media-lumix(back slash!)x2dphotos.mount(?) Adding the SD card into the card reader after editing /etc/fstab then rebooting, causes the computer to go into emergency (? WTF) mode. Ctrl+d doesn't fix it. Going to the command prompt with the root password is the only solution. (i.e. editing the /etc/fstab file back like it was, removing the SD card, and rebooting.) I think it's ludicrous that adding an SD card that even has its own line in /etc/fstab, throws the whole system into 'emergency' mode. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cbi1kcf9sj...@mid.individual.net
Re: Good news on claws-mail
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:40:02 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: opera might be closed source and unmaintained on linux, it's still my favorite. It's very maintained on linux. I suggest you try Opera beta. It's the best browser I've used in a long time. Version:26.0.1656.8 - Opera is up to date Update stream: beta System: Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid (x86_64; XFCE) http://deb.opera.com -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cba35ef859...@mid.individual.net
Re: Error code 1...........
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:10:01 +0200 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: Probably a meaningless suggestion, but have you tried apt-get clean ? Yes once in a while, but I use: apt-get autoclean instead and that's before making a weekly image using terabyte image for Linux. (and windows if you like) it is non-free like Weihenstephaner hefe weissbier. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/casn9lfod6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Error code 1...........
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:30:02 +0200 Charlie aries...@ipstarmail.com.au wrote: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) When I encountered this error (which was mentioned on this list a few days ago) I purged the linjpeg-turbo-progs package (on which apparently nothing depended because it went without complaint) and then resumed my upgrade; the error went away. But maybe that's not the right way to do it. I get a code (1) on every dist-upgrade for some time now..maybe two weeks, can't remember but if I run: apt-get -f install apt-get goes on to setup the packages it downloaded. If the dist-upgrade message says it it going to remove a lot of packages I run instead: apt-get -u upgrade I continue this command until a dist-upgrade returns to sanity. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/carbhnf8q2...@mid.individual.net
Re: How To Prove Systemd Can|Cannot Be Jessie Default
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:10:01 +0200 David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com wrote: Let's use our keyboards to launch test cases in preference to soapbox rhetoric that likely proves nothing. Let's let the code speak for itself for a while. I've not had many problems with systemd excepting my firewall, Shorewall, failed to start when booting up. It still started with: 'shorewall start' on the command line so that was alright with me. Systemd or something tried to put another firewall on my computer called Pyroman but it could not start at the boot, and always generated an error message to this effect. It is quite inferior to shorewall anyway, so I removed it. The developer or maintainer of Shorewall has now succeeded in returning Shorewall to the old configuration. After booting up the other day I ran 'shorewall start' and the message came back: shorewall was already running. Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself? -- CK System Information GTK+ 2.24.25 / GLib 2.42.0 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 3.10-1-amd64 (x86_64) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/card1rf8q2...@mid.individual.net
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
Just output like this: 27 x�͒ 28 x�͒ 29 x�͒ 30 x�͒ 31 x�͒ Looks like Bibletime Mandarin -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c6v5r4f4mj...@mid.individual.net
Re: Irony
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 23:50:02 +0200 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Churchill: If you're not a liberal when you're young there's something wrong with your heart. Hummm..that's interesting I lived in Britain for 13 years from the late 60's through the seventies and heard that expression a lot but no one ever attributed it to Churchill. This is probably why Churchill was quietly retired soon after the war. Everett Dirksen a Republican (not a conservative) party member in the US during the 50's and 60's was credited with saying: Stronger than any army is an idea whose time has come..but he acquired his wisdom from Victor Hugo who lived through most of the 19th century who said: no force on earth is more powerful than an idea whose time has come. (don't bother correcting me, I know there are many variations. -- CK The Internet what a place -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c519lsfmvu...@mid.individual.net
Re: Irony
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:50:02 +0200 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Debian isn't as special as you think, at least not from this perspective. Everybody earns money and needs money in this development. Organizations like Debian go forward by people with jobs volunteering time and expertise. I knew for instance in Amarillo, Brad Hughes, when he lived there. He was a kid that was working as an electrical contractor's apprentice. He came to one of the few LUG meetings we had in the late 1990,s and demonstrated Black Box. and helped us installed it on our big desktop computers. He wasn't paid to do that but I suspect it helped get him his job at Trolltech. (QT) The man in Toronto who I'm not going to mention because, I write him some with problems who was patient enough to help me with the Nvidia GLX driver back in 2008. when it didn't build its own module and run depmod like it does now. He has a good job, it isn't about money, time maybe. This is why it's important to keep Debian 'free.' This makes it attractive to talented people who still have their hearts in the right place. (You know what they say, If you're not a communist when you're young, there's something wrong with your heart. I think this statement came out of a system that used to educate its promising youth. Some systems are broken so it's hard to have a heart if you're ignorant and admire John Galt but never read his manifesto) This was the reason Debian was created. By maintaining a sensible level of free software without becoming hysterical over the non-free repositories. I'm sure Debian will continue to flourish like all these .orgs they get a lot of donations and legacies over time and if corruption and excessive ideology stays out of the group that steers and runs Debian development, the distribution will flourish which it continues to do, actually, or I wouldn't be using it -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Irony
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:50:01 +0200 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from most Linux distros. Yes you're right, that's what makes Debian special, passion always trumps money. Look what happened to M$. I happen to know directly a certain person who works for a software company in Toronto and he writes patches for the Nvidia GLX driver pro bono publico. Of course there's money involved in Debian we're not stupid romantics but I'm just saying there's a lot of youthful desire to show off too, like artist, and Debian is a global platform for that, if you've got the ability. No corporation can long stand up to that kind of forward motion. Debian's where it's at. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4sjvsfntb...@mid.individual.net
Re: Irony
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 01:00:02 +0200 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: honestly, does anyone care why any user chose to change from Ubuntu or if their expectations were met? A skillful writer might weave a soap opera around the unsettling notions of systemd yet always there, an undercurrent of optimism inherent to a vague promise of a better kernel yet seemingly just out of reach as the chorus of writhing users struggle to believe with every episode compounding the dread of another unsettling rumor: the monolith, Microsoft, the systemctl reboot, methane hydrate, and you just won a trip on Malaysia Airlines to see Mt. Fujiyama. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4q00nf5i0...@mid.individual.net
Re: clean up my system
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:00:02 +0200 Floris jkflo...@dds.nl wrote: I want to clean up my system You could always install: bleachbit That will clean you out -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4o3gufpg6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 02:30:01 +0200 John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org wrote: working in Debian Sid VM by jtotheh @slashdot http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5512583cid=47639701 netflix is going into Europe where Linux is widely used, especially in Germany. I believe they will have a .deb in the offing quite soon. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c4o3u4fpg6...@mid.individual.net
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit Thanks I'll do that and thanks for the explanation regarding the binary file If that doesn't work, that result could be a false positive That could be the case. I just installed also rkhunter and ran that and it found no Suckit rootkit so that was encouraging. There were however a couple of warnings from rkhunter: Warning: Hidden directory found: '/etc/.java' Warning: Hidden file found: /etc/.fstab: ASCII text How does one reveal a hidden file and directory? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bvidbnf4r3...@mid.individual.net
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:40:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: I would suggest you to reinstall sysvinit, Just to follow up on your suggestion of yesterday after a reboot today, yes the 'infected' warning in chkrootkit still appears after the sysvinit re-install. Since however as stated last night, rkhunter says no, so I'm inclined to want to believe in the false positive results here and go with 'not found' in rkhunter. next question: how does one see a 'hidden file' if one receives a warning in rkhunter about having two on your system? I can always delete /etc/.java and /etc/.fstab but what then? (why the 'dot' in front of the .java and .fstab) Warning: Hidden directory found: '/etc/.java' Warning: Hidden file found: /etc/.fstab: ASCII text thanks for your considerable comment so far -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bvk1spfgak...@mid.individual.net
Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 14:30:02 +0200 David Guyot david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com wrote: Anyone saying that Debian and its software are flawless lies or doesn't know what's he is talking about. How true. And by the way, I have had chkrootkit installed for a long time and the other day I ran it after an upgrade and voilà: Searching for Suckit rootkit... Warning: /sbin/init INFECTED as a Sysadmin what do you suggest I can do to rid myself if this? Looking into /sbin/init only shows a lot of stuff that looks like modern art. I await your help, RSVP -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bvc9b2fs5t...@mid.individual.net
Re: Iceweasel and DRM
On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:20:01 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: There are uncountable illegal copies of Madonna's noise pollution, she still owns too much money, while other people die of hunger. That's not Madonna's fault Ralf, that's just bad government. There's a lot of it about. Where's Voltaire when you need him. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bueah8fi2h...@mid.individual.net
Re: boot in console mode from grub2
On Wed, 07 May 2014 00:50:01 +0200 Glenn English g...@slsware.net wrote: I've always installed from a netinstall, without the GUI, so that GUI init doesn't exist on my machines. This is the case with me too but Francois Patte also ask: I can't find any tuto for grub2 installed on my system. I don't know if you noticed this in the grub config file of /etc/default/grub but there is a lot of 'tuto' in this command: $ info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration' -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bt28vbf653...@mid.individual.net
Shorewall blocks Internet on boot-up
I'm running a Jessie/ Sid mixture and after a recent dist-upgrade Shorewall blocks all Internet access unless it is 'stopped' and restarted: root@mundo:/home/charles# shorewall stop Stopping Shorewall Processing /etc/shorewall/stop ... Processing /etc/shorewall/tcclear ... Running /sbin/iptables-restore... Processing /etc/shorewall/stopped ... done. root@mundo:/home/charles# shorewall start Compiling... Processing /etc/shorewall/params ... Processing /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf... Loading Modules... Compiling /etc/shorewall/zones... Compiling /etc/shorewall/interfaces... Determining Hosts in Zones... Locating Action Files... Compiling /etc/shorewall/policy... Running /etc/shorewall/initdone... Adding Anti-smurf Rules Adding rules for DHCP Compiling TCP Flags filtering... Compiling Kernel Route Filtering... Compiling Martian Logging... Compiling MAC Filtration -- Phase 1... Compiling /etc/shorewall/rules... Compiling /etc/shorewall/conntrack... Compiling MAC Filtration -- Phase 2... Applying Policies... Compiling /usr/share/shorewall/action.Drop for chain Drop... Compiling /usr/share/shorewall/action.Broadcast for chain Broadcast... Generating Rule Matrix... Compiling /usr/share/shorewall/action.Reject for chain Reject... Creating iptables-restore input... Shorewall configuration compiled to /var/lib/shorewall/.start Starting Shorewall Initializing... Processing /etc/shorewall/init ... Processing /etc/shorewall/tcclear ... Setting up Route Filtering... Setting up Martian Logging... Setting up Proxy ARP... Preparing iptables-restore input... Running /sbin/iptables-restore... Processing /etc/shorewall/start ... Processing /etc/shorewall/started ... done. Now I also removed network-manager before the dist-upgrade with a --purge removal. (N-M has not been activated in /etc/NetworManager/NetworkManager.conf for a long) time) Could it be network-manager's removal created some parting sabotage on being purged? I can't find anything wrong with Shorewall. suggestions -- Ck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bs7gktfbt...@mid.individual.net
Re: Duplicate sources.list entry
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:50:01 +0200 Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: Someone asked that same question only about 1.5 hours ago with the same subject line. :) strange isn't it..looks like a clear case of simultaneous unconsciousness. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/br93rjfkf5...@mid.individual.net
Duplicate sources.list entry
This is a curious message: #apt-get update Reading package lists... Done W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages) W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems If I go into /var/lib/apt/lists/ and remove dl.google.com etc. they are only replaced automatically after closing the file (edited with vim saved and closed with shift-ZZ) obviously running apt-get update is not going to correct these problems so if removing the listed duplicate sources.list entries is futile because these entries are not actually in my sources.list. Is there some other sources.list the message refers to? I'm actually using the google chrome beta browser Version 35.0.1916.27 beta aura from google and it works pretty damn good. -- thanks for your consideration System Information GTK+ 2.24.23 / GLib 2.40.0 Locale: en_US.UTF-8 (charset: UTF-8) Operating System: Linux 3.10-1-amd64 (x86_64) jessie/sid combination CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/br5t0kfskg...@mid.individual.net
Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 07:00:03 +0200 shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 14, 2014 11:01 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:55:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I read https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/heartbleed.html Here's the article from Bruce's CRYPT-GRAM from April 15, 2014: Heartbleed Heartbleed is a catastrophic bug in OpenSSL: The Heartbleed bug allows anyone on the Internet to read the memory of the systems protected by the vulnerable versions of the OpenSSL software. This compromises the secret keys used to identify the service providers and to encrypt the traffic, the names and passwords of the users and the actual content. This allows attackers to eavesdrop communications, steal data directly from the services and users and to impersonate services and users. Basically, an attacker can grab 64K of memory from a server. The attack leaves no trace, and can be done multiple times to grab a different random 64K of memory. This means that anything in memory -- SSL private keys, user keys, anything -- is vulnerable. And you have to assume that it is all compromised. All of it. Catastrophic is the right word. On the scale of 1 to 10, this is an 11. The bug has been patched. After you patch your systems, you have to get a new public/private key pair, update your SSL certificate, and then change every password that could potentially be affected. At this point, the probability is close to one that every target has had its private keys extracted by multiple intelligence agencies. The real question is whether or not someone deliberately inserted this bug into OpenSSL, and has had two years of unfettered access to everything. My guess is accident, but I have no proof. http://heartbleed.com/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/04/critical-crypto-bug-exposes-yahoo-mail-passwords-russian-roulette-style/ or http://tinyurl.com/ngcytay https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7548991 https://xkcd.com/1353/ http://krebsonsecurity.com/2014/04/heartbleed-bug-what-can-you-do/ https://freedom-to-tinker.com/blog/felten/how-to-protect-yourself-from-heartbleed/ or http://tinyurl.com/kqe4b5c http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2014/04/08/half-a-million-widely-trusted-websites-vulnerable-to-heartbleed-bug.html or http://tinyurl.com/lhjr7zf http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/ More about Heartbleed on my blog: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/heartbleed.html https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/04/more_on_heartbl.html -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/br5uujfskg...@mid.individual.net
Re: no eth0 connection
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 10:30:03 +0200 François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: # lshw -class network root@mundo:/home/charles# lshw -class network bash: lshw: command not found -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bpuktkfig8...@mid.individual.net
Re: Great Debian experience
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:10:02 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: fenestral hordes. I rather like your description of them but wouldn't it have been more proper to use the term 'fenestrated' it is an adjective. In anatomy, this would apply to 'having perforations, apertures suggesting perhaps of having been buggered. Deo Soli Debianae Invicto Seculari -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Great Debian experience
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 00:30:03 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: You must be American! I'm awfully American but I once lived in your country for many enjoyable years. Tell me this, are you English Scottish Welsh Northern Irish or just British I got the original from a reference to Mithra (the sun god not mothra the giant killer moth) from an old 1972 edition of Pears Cyclopedia (you would probably say, cyclopaedia :-) often found in places once occupied by Roman soldiers: Deo Soli Mithrae Invicto Seculari -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bouq45fkl2...@mid.individual.net
Re: Great Debian experience
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:10:01 +0100 Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: or *cough* Orkadian *cough* :) The selkie that deud no' forget Ae time langsine, Mansie Meur wus pickan' lempeds i' the ebb, on the wast side o' Hacksness i' Sanday, whin he wus stunned tae hear some wey amang the rocks a unco' ceurious soond Geordie Ah man, wee but a feul wad hae sold off his furnitor and left his wife. Noo, yor a fair doon reet feul, not an artificial feul like Billy Purvis! Thous a real Geordie! gan man an hide thysel! gan an' get thy picks agyen. Thou may de for the city, but never for the west end o' wor toon. I so enjoyed those regional BBC productions involving police work. I especially liked Vera, the detective chief inspector of the Northumberland and City Police. We had such a good time trying to make out what she was saying, (and all) then they took it off, and Hamish Macbeth and Wee Jock we could never understand what he was saying either but everything was bliss until Alex (Alexandra) fell off that cliff. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bov8jkfruv...@mid.individual.net
VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)
apropos to nothing but after reinserting these locations in my sources.list: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org experimental main and getting an upgrade to VLC the first time to use VLC, I get no appearance of VLC but this: charles@mundo:~$ vlc VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876) (no seg fault or anything reported except the version you see there) I thought I might hold off on the bug report pending an inquiry here to see if others have had a similar experience. Do the VLC maintainers like the deb-mutimedia.org sources seem like I was reading once where they didn't like them at all. Is it prudent to remove the deb-multimedia.org sources from my sources.list and downgrade VLC to a working condition? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bhe5dnfo3f...@mid.individual.net
Re: VLC media player 2.1.2 Rincewind (revision 2.1.2-0-ga4c4876)
On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 21:00:01 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: A bug report where? Not to Debian, we hope. No just write those guys in France. It's up to you. Please see the first sentence in this post. A 'downgrade' might result in an upgrade to something which works better for you. I'll probably do that, OK thanks for the input. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bhf5fjfo3f...@mid.individual.net
Re: Wireless Controller Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG in a Dell Inspiron 9300
On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 19:40:02 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: The terminal just says: Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1 I didn't see anywhere suggested you just change the name to wlan0 On my /etc/network/interfaces I have these two interfaces eth0 and wlan0 that both connect if the wlan0 is connected. (sometimes it is convenient to use it in the house) My system doesn't have a problem recognizing eth0 and wlan0 in the interfaces. /etc/network/interfaces: # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid mondo-dlink wpa-psk ** -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bgf66uf69g...@mid.individual.net
Re: Wireless Controller Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG in a Dell Inspiron 9300
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 01:50:02 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Network-manager and wicd depend on wpasupplicant. Personally I would rather deal with the organ grinder than one of the monkeys. The best advice I would give if you have Network-manager installed is to edit: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile [ifupdown] managed=false ~ (change managed=true to false) and do yourself a favor -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bgfd16f69g...@mid.individual.net
Re: 3D printer
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:10:01 +0100 Beco r...@beco.cc wrote: Hi guys, This is an open thread, if that is allowed. I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? What brand would you recommend? How about kits? What software is there available in debian repositories to create 3D projects that can be directly printed? Thanks any input. My best, Beco. Going to build a rifle Beco? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bdo1v2facl...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 06:40:01 +0200 Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: it's nothing like the prices shown unloaded, above. .21 cents is nothing like .22 cents, who knew. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bb067hf76q...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:40:01 +0200 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: People convinced against their will are of the same opinion still. Stan, you know what Jesus said: cast your pearls before swine and they will turn on you and tear you to pieces. There are opinions and facts. Many now think their opinions are facts. Too many I think. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bb077nf76q...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 00:00:03 +0200 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: in Germany in 2012 was around 0.26 €/kWh. (0.26 EUR = 0.351604 USD) In Western New York last bill was circa 0.21$/KWh In West Texas for September circa 0.14 $/KWh 1.00 EUR = 1.35229 USD Mid-market rates: 2013-10-01 00:12 UTC What's it cost elsewhere? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bauig4fp3i...@mid.individual.net
Re: building computer
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 21:50:01 +0200 Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: I have received a response from MSI again. I do like the swiftness of their email responses, even if the responses are a bit cryptic. Me: Please advise me as to whether this motherboard: http://us.msi.com/product/mb/H87-G43.html#/?div=Overview 1. allows Secure Boot to be disabled and 2. whether it allows CSM mode to be enabled and 3. whether it is Connected-standby compliant. MSI tech: Default is disabled but can be enabled, default is CSM mode (UEFI + Legacy) but can be switched to pure UEFI mode. Connected-standby is required by Windows 8. The board has Windows 8 configuration that will do all of the above if you are going to do Win8 deployment. Am I nuts, or does this answer seem to be the complete opposite of the previous answer? According to this answer the board seems to be what I want. In a message yesterday, (to you not the list) Charles Kroeger mentioned that part of Connected-standby was an inability to enable CSM. This answer suggests the board can do either. With the release of Windows 8 in October 2012, Microsoft's certification requirements now require that computers include firmware that implements the UEFI specification. Furthermore, if the computer supports the Connected Standby feature of Windows 8, then the firmware is not permitted to contain a Compatibility Support Module (CSM). As such, systems that support Connected Standby are incapable of booting Legacy BIOS operating systems Can Charles Kroeger give a source for his information? He can: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface sub heading: Platforms using EFI/UEFI 10th paragraph down -- CK signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: package help
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:10:01 +0200 paulmars paulgm...@gmail.com wrote: Im emailed a bug report. I got no response. I been trying to convince myself to try again, but I have doubts. I dont want to loose my XP install again. I need dual boot and i also need a recovery option if Debian fails again, like last time. Last time grub got messed up and I needed to reinstall xp. That is not fun. i really want to leave ms, but i have online business so i need it daily, until i find another option. Debian might be that option, but i need to test drive it. You didn't say what the bug report was about. There's a lot of bugs of course but I cannot believe you would have a problem with the latest Debian installer: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ Download an .iso of the 'netinst' (net install) and burn a CD. This will boot assuming you have the CD option set to boot before the HD in your computer's BIOS. You can leave everything to the installer. After the Debian install, you will have a duel boot system. The installer mess with the NTFS partition. (caveat) you must have enough 'free space' on your HD for the installer to do this for you. If XP has taken up the whole HD with the C drive, I would suggest first boot up with a live CD that contains the very useful program GParted. From that vantage point you can see and reduce the size of the displayed NTFS file system and be able to reduce this to its minimal requirements. After that operation boot the Debian installer, install a 'basic' Debian system, select the Grub2 boot manager and on the reboot you will see windows XP as on option for the duel boot you require. This menu is first thing you will see after the computer posts. You must have an oldish computer, so you will probably want the i386 .iso image. I hope you have a suitable CPU and modern amounts of memory. Debian won't bog you down like MS but it is a modern lively system so faster is better. As far as recovery goes, I use a non-free imaging program that runs off a CD. terabyteunlimited.com/index.htm The CUI version of of their image for Linux will easily make an recoverable image of both the NTSF and Linux file systems respectively. You don't want to waste your money on their GUI versions of image for windows and the like. The IFL CUI version does it all, and runs off the ifl.iso image on the CD. It's money well spent. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bagengfr9e...@mid.individual.net
Re: Building computer
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:10:01 +0200 Catherine Gramze rhia...@gmail.com wrote: there was no option in the BIOS to boot to the hard drive, or even to the EFI partition It surprises me to think you cannot select in your own BIOS the choice of booting from a CD. What kind of BIOS is that? With the latest testing version of the Debian installer, I would think you had the upper hand with the NTSF file system present. Just reformat the whole HD to Ext4 and load up a basic system and grub2. If that doesn't work then you better get a different BIOS or motherboard. Buying a store-bought computer means you've already paid for some OEM windows 8..this was a mistake, sorry dude. Maybe Stan Hoeppner will wade in with a recommendation. If he does you will have come to right place. best wishes nonetheless. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/baf2i8fitk...@mid.individual.net