On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:09:59AM -0500, lee wrote:
You can consider the problem of keeping data readable and usable over
long periods of time a strawman all you want. If you have data that
you want to still be able to read/use after a long time, you might
have a problem that is somewhat
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:31:01AM -0500, lee wrote:
Yeah, that something is plain text doesn't mean that it is human
readable.
If its plain text it is definitely readable, it may just not be
comprehensible.
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Just for the record, I'd like to mention that I upgraded to the KDE4 in
testing yesterday night. But not from KDE3, I had been using KDE4 since
4.1.X from experimental, then upgraded to 4.2.0 (or something like that)
while yet in unstable (or perhaps even experimental).
I didn't have a mysql
In 4a2137c0.7010...@kalinowski.com.br, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Just for the record, I'd like to mention that I upgraded to the KDE4 in
testing yesterday night. But not from KDE3, I had been using KDE4 since
4.1.X from experimental, then upgraded to 4.2.0 (or something like that)
while yet in
On Saturday 30 May 2009 09:38:36 you wrote:
In 4a2137c0.7010...@kalinowski.com.br, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
Just for the record, I'd like to mention that I upgraded to the KDE4 in
testing yesterday night. But not from KDE3, I had been using KDE4 since
4.1.X from experimental, then upgraded to
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 02:21:38PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
lee wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:44:49AM -0400, H.S. wrote:
Have you tried reinstalling kdm with aptitude? Or purging it and then
installing it again? Purging might recreate the config files.
Yes, I tried that, but it didn't
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. said:
In 20090527163101.gg5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
Anyway, I don't like it. It's
something hidden from the user instead of telling them about it. That's
never a good idea.
Actually, according to actual HCI studies it is often better to hide
things
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:28:46PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Can you get a reliable tape drive, incl. some tapes, that stores at
least 1TB per tape, for max. $200 now?
No. You can get used LTO-3 drives for about $250 on ebay. Tapes, of
whatever capacity, end up costing about $50
I seem to have lost track of the goal here. Please refresh me. Thanks.
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+ Jonathan Kaye (Mon, 18 May 2009 15:15:27 +0200):
Yes, but sadly 4.2 is not hitting squeeze all at once. I got about 6 4.2
upgrades today with the results that a lot of my kde apps are no longer
functional. The menu items along with their associated icons are gone:
kpat, amarok, k3b are 3 of
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:22:32PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
I agree with Boyd in his understanding of your post. What is the use of
language if you say one thing that a reasonable person would understand
but meant something completely different? If a reasonable receiver does
not understand the
lee wrote:
For the second time in this thread: Is there another way to start kde
than using kdm (or gdm)? Though they can be nice to have, I don't want
to have to use either of them.
Isn't startx or startkde supposed to do that? Login at the console and
try that.
FYI, I have kde 4.2 and kdm
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:18:54AM -0500, lee wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:46:47AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Use the old software. It
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
lee wrote:
For the second time in this thread: Is there another way to start kde
than using kdm (or gdm)? Though they can be nice to have, I don't want
to have to use either of them.
Isn't startx or startkde supposed to do that? Login at the console and
try that.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:51:25PM -0500, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:21:15PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
If the issue is saving $20 on a case, then you are just $20 short of
having a working solution. Sounds good to me.
Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:19:07PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090527205036.gn5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is
why they
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:22:57PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
lee wrote:
For the second time in this thread: Is there another way to start kde
than using kdm (or gdm)? Though they can be nice to have, I don't want
to have to use either of them.
Isn't startx or startkde supposed to do
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:42:08PM +0200, komodo wrote:
On Thursday 28 of May 2009 15:00:29 lee wrote:
I already mentioned about 3 or 4 times in this thread that kdm, when
it tries to start, says that there is no greeting widget and that I
should check the configuration. I'm merely
On Thu,28.May.09, 08:58:03, lee wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:22:57PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
lee wrote:
For the second time in this thread: Is there another way to start kde
than using kdm (or gdm)? Though they can be nice to have, I don't want
to have to use either of them.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:23:18PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090527205142.go5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:03:29PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Older releases are maintained in the archive
For 30 years or more?
From what I
On Thursday 28 of May 2009 16:01:14 lee wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 03:42:08PM +0200, komodo wrote:
On Thursday 28 of May 2009 15:00:29 lee wrote:
I already mentioned about 3 or 4 times in this thread that kdm, when
it tries to start, says that there is no greeting widget and that I
On Thursday 28 of May 2009 15:00:29 lee wrote:
I already mentioned about 3 or 4 times in this thread that kdm, when
it tries to start, says that there is no greeting widget and that I
should check the configuration. I'm merely expecting it to work
because no packages are broken, no
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:14:03AM -0400, Brendan wrote:
Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and you'll
find that useable ones start at about $250, and good ones cost more
--- if you can find one at all.
250? Is this a gold case?
Show me where you can buy the
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 07:40:37AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and you'll
find that useable ones start at about $250, and good ones cost more
You should start looking for a new place to buy cases.
Do you know a good place? I was lucky
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:44:12AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and you'll
find that useable ones start at about $250, and good ones cost more
--- if you can find one at all.
Buy an old computer and use that case.
That's what I
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:42:57AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
If your backup/archive hardware won't connect to the new computer, then
you'll need to migrate the data to new archive hardware first, then
migrate the computer to new hardware.
Yes, but then you might have overlooked something
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:35:01PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090527205951.gp5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:10:54PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
It's
something hidden from the user instead of telling them about
it. That's
lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:22:32PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
I agree with Boyd in his understanding of your post. What is the use of
language if you say one thing that a reasonable person would understand
but meant something completely different? If a reasonable receiver does
not
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:37:33PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090527210120.gq5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:11:38PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
You might check out the database component of KOffice 2.
It is supposed to be a bit
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:44:49AM -0400, H.S. wrote:
Have you tried reinstalling kdm with aptitude? Or purging it and then
installing it again? Purging might recreate the config files.
Yes, I tried that, but it didn't change anything.
It's working now, but I don't like it ...
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 04:12:18PM +0200, komodo wrote:
What about this ?
http://albertech.net/2009/04/kde-how-to-fix-no-greeter-widget-plugin-load
ed-error/
That fits perfectly, thanks! The symptoms are the same, and
kdebase-workspace is currently not installed. I'll install it
lee wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:44:49AM -0400, H.S. wrote:
Have you tried reinstalling kdm with aptitude? Or purging it and then
installing it again? Purging might recreate the config files.
Yes, I tried that, but it didn't change anything.
It's working now, but I don't like it ...
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:08:00AM -0500, lee wrote:
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 09:42:57AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
As far as I know, the only digital media that is designed to last that
long on the shelf without data loss is tape. Since tape technology
moves apace, you should probably
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31:00AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Sun, May 24,
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:46:47AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Use the old software. It might not run on the latest release of Debian,
but it
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:53:25AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Then why do the dependencies require that a mysql server be installed?
As I understand it:
Because the embedded MySQL server is very much still a server. You do
*not* have to start the daemon via the init script, and
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 05:36:09PM +, marc wrote:
lee said:
Both of these won't be human readable, plain text files. Try to read
your current kde configuration in 35 years, or try to read your data
from the the RDBMS you're currently using in 35 years. You'll find that
it won't be
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:20:54AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On a side note, what I could use is a Linux version of MS Access. That
really is one very useful tool, and even that doesn't require an
RDBMS.
Actually,
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:23:35AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
first to keep the
lee wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:23:35AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:06:48AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
first to keep the resource usage low: There are some games I want to
play, and
In 20090527160338.ge5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:31:00AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 01:02:56PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I'm sure they would prefer something based on multiple
CSV files (structured, but must mostly human-readable) instead, and I see no
technical roadblocks to that goal.
Lee, could you do or sponsor such development?
In 20090527161854.gf5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:46:47AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Use the old
In 20090527163101.gg5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:53:25AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Then why do the dependencies require that a mysql server be installed?
As I understand it:
Because the embedded MySQL server is very much still a server. You
In 20090527165037.gj5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 10:23:35AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
SQLite doesn't run a daemon at all. While there is an binary that
functional as a simple SQL Shell, all the real RDBMS work is handled
by the shared library.
You might check out the database component of KOffice 2 (still in beta,
IIRC). It is supposed to be a bit friendlier than the OO.o database
component and should, by default, use an SQLite database embedded in the
document.
Kexi hasn't made it into Koffice 2.0. We are still hopeful for
Find your local LUG and ask around. I can virtually guarantee that there
someone with a storage unit full of old hardware they are keeping for some
reason. Even better if you have a local FreeGeek.
Who would keep all the old hardware? And for what? And it's nothing
you could rely on.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:21:15PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
How do you maintain 15 or 30 year old hardware?
Cooling, circuit breakers, relaxed duty cycle. And prayer, if you're into
that.
If you want to keep it running all the time ... Even if you don't, you
might have a problem when
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is why
they weren't a quote. (Notice the lack of quotation marks.) Anyone reading
this message can follow the exact reasoning I used to get to that
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:03:29PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Older releases are maintained in the archive
For 30 years or more?
From what I understand, that is the plan. The archive currently goes back
to the first release of Debian.
It may be planned to do that, but that
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:10:54PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
It's
something hidden from the user instead of telling them about
it. That's never a good idea.
Actually, according to actual HCI studies it is often better to hide things
from a user instead of telling them about it.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:11:38PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
You might check out the database component of KOffice 2 (still in beta,
IIRC). It is supposed to be a bit friendlier than the OO.o database
component and should, by default, use an SQLite database embedded in the
document.
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:54:31PM +0100, Muzer wrote:
lee wrote:
Still it wants to install the full mysql server --- and doesn't that
package automatically start the server, even if it's then not used by
kde? Not that I couldn't prevent that, but they could make a package
that only installs
In 20090527205036.gn5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is
why they weren't a quote. (Notice the lack of quotation marks.) Anyone
reading this
In 20090527205142.go5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:03:29PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Older releases are maintained in the archive
For 30 years or more?
From what I understand, that is the plan. The archive currently goes
back to the first
lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:01:08PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
So, yes, you did say that. You just didn't use those words, which is why
they weren't a quote. (Notice the lack of quotation marks.) Anyone reading
this message can follow the exact reasoning I used to get
In 20090527205951.gp5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:10:54PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
It's
something hidden from the user instead of telling them about
it. That's never a good idea.
Actually, according to actual HCI studies it is often better
In 20090527210120.gq5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:11:38PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
You might check out the database component of KOffice 2.
It is supposed to be a bit friendlier than the OO.o
database component and should, by default, use an SQLite
Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and you'll
find that useable ones start at about $250, and good ones cost more
--- if you can find one at all.
250? Is this a gold case?
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Brendan wrote:
Where do you get a good case for $20? Shop around a bit and you'll
find that useable ones start at about $250, and good ones cost more
--- if you can find one at all.
250? Is this a gold case?
Nah, Adamantium ;)
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Cooling, circuit breakers, relaxed duty cycle. And prayer, if you're into
that.
If you want to keep it running all the time ... Even if you don't, you
might have a problem when you need spare parts.
As mentioned previously, LUGs and geeks in general are usually a great
place to find old
Actually, according to actual HCI studies it is often better to hide things
from a user instead of telling them about it.
What means better in that case?
Really, this does sound ridiculous. We've all heard about the woman
who frees up disk space by removing the folders that she doesn't use,
Nah, Adamantium ;)
Sounds like Unobtainium to me.
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On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:28:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090524145214.ga16...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
I
don't want to
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:28:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:21:19PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
If you don't want to run any servers then you don't want to run Gnome
(ORBit = CORBA server), KDE 3 (dcopserver), Xfce (notifications go via the
DBus
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Use the old software. It might not run on the latest release of Debian,
but it should run on whatever version you had before. Older releases
are maintained
In 20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On a side note, what I could use is a Linux version of MS Access. That
really is one very useful tool, and even that doesn't require an
RDBMS.
Actually, it does. The Microsoft Jet Database Engine is a required part of
an MS Access
In 20090526144742.gd5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
first to keep the resource usage low: There are some games I want to
play, and I don't want to
In 20090526142918.gc5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 01:17:16PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
And BTW, it's not only wasting resources to have a mysql server
installed that you don't need
lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
first to keep the resource usage low: There are some games I want to
play, and I don't want to have to try stopping things that are running
lee wrote:
There seems to be too much windoze thinking entering Debian: Hide
everything from the users, take control of their computers away from
them, make things unfixable --- and the next step is to provide them
with only crappy software. I'm beginning to become more and more
unhappy
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:06:48AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
first to keep the resource usage low: There are some games I want to
play, and
lee said:
Both of these won't be human readable, plain text files. Try to read
your current kde configuration in 35 years, or try to read your data
from the the RDBMS you're currently using in 35 years. You'll find that
it won't be easy.
Maybe software developers need to wake up and find a
In 20090526173038.go2...@pear.tzafrir.org.il, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:06:48AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
lee wrote:
Even if I wanted to run an RDBMS because it's needed for something I
want, I'd think at least twice about it and look for another solution
first to keep
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:58:34AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
lee writes:
So what have they been thinking to come up with something like that?
Microsoft Exchange.
And they are running a mysql-server on every client so that they don't
need a server for it?
I used to be fine with 2GB of RAM,
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:28:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090524145214.ga16...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:15:36PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
It's really a KDE problem, although the solution will probably cause
some trouble
On Seg, 25 Mai 2009, lee wrote:
[snip rant about some kde apps requiring mysql server]
There seems to be too much windoze thinking entering Debian: Hide
everything from the users, take control of their computers away from
them, make things unfixable --- and the next step is to provide them
with
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Seg, 25 Mai 2009, lee wrote:
[snip rant about some kde apps requiring mysql server]
There seems to be too much windoze thinking entering Debian: Hide
everything from the users, take control of their computers away from
them, make things unfixable --- and the next
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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Seg, 25 Mai 2009, lee wrote:
[snip rant about some kde apps requiring mysql server]
There seems to be too much windoze thinking entering Debian: Hide
everything from the
lee said:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:58:34AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
But why do you want to use KDE at all?
Why not? I liked some of the things it provided, but that doesn't mean I
would use or need all its features. I tried out the calendar/PIM it has
and I didn't like it: So why
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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
On Seg, 25 Mai 2009, lee wrote:
[snip rant about some kde apps requiring mysql server]
There seems to be too much windoze thinking entering Debian: Hide
On Mon,25.May.09, 16:20:44, marc wrote:
I read a defensive post on the Kubuntu list - there is a *lot* of
defensiveness around kde4 at the moment - that claims that kde4 is a
rewrite and so users should adjust their expectations accordingly.
It reminded me of Joel Spolsky's article,
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 03:28:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090524145214.ga16...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
I
don't want to run an akonadi server either, whatever that is.
Oh, then you don't want to
In 20090525163904.gb5...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
If you don't want to run any servers then you don't want to run Gnome
(ORBit = CORBA server), KDE 3 (dcopserver), Xfce (notifications go via the
DBus server) or X11 (xorg is an X11 server).
Who says that I don't want to run any
Andrei Popescu said:
On Mon,25.May.09, 16:20:44, marc wrote:
I read a defensive post on the Kubuntu list - there is a *lot* of
defensiveness around kde4 at the moment - that claims that kde4 is a
rewrite and so users should adjust their expectations accordingly.
It reminded me of Joel
lee wrote:
Hi!
Well, KDE is now broken after I updated today. I refuse to run a
mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than
enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the
mysql-server anyway.
Will that be fixed?
When kdm starts, it says there's no
AG wrote:
lee wrote:
Hi!
Well, KDE is now broken after I updated today. I refuse to run a
mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than
enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the
mysql-server anyway.
Will that be fixed?
When kdm starts, it says
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:15:36PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090523145721.gh7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:34:39AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
However, I do know that the KDE/Qt Debian Maintainers do not have the
time to fix
Tony Baldwin wrote:
AG wrote:
lee wrote:
Hi!
Well, KDE is now broken after I updated today. I refuse to run a
mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than
enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the
mysql-server anyway.
Will that be fixed?
When
lee writes:
So what have they been thinking to come up with something like that?
Microsoft Exchange.
But why do you want to use KDE at all?
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I've had problems since the upgrade, too, including blank screens, mysql
errors, slow load times, and other things. I eventually just gave up and
switched to Gnome until things shake out a bit.
If you'd like to tell me about the problems that you have, I can help
you file the bugs. I can even
In 20090524145214.ga16...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:15:36PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
It's really a KDE problem, although the solution will probably cause
some trouble for the Debian packaging team as well. Especially
minimizing the amount of
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:34:39AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
As I said before, it is possible to use much of KDE without Akonadi, for
now.
Well, I tried to keep it installed as much as was possible, but
without the mysql-server. Now it doesn't work anymore.
However, I do know
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:04:09AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
lee writes:
In any case, it would be nice to have a working KDE without having to run
a mysql server. Is there a way to do that?
That depends on how you define working KDE. The KDE metapackage depends
on packages that depend on
In 20090523145721.gh7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 09:34:39AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
However, I do know that the KDE/Qt Debian Maintainers do not have the
time to fix it, so you might mention it to upstream.
But is this a Debian problem
H.S. wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
I refuse to run a
mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than
enough. I'm not using the applications that would require the
mysql-server anyway.
thveillon.debian wrote:
H.S. wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
I refuse to run a
mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more than
enough. I'm not using the applications that would require
Magnus Pedersen a écrit :
thveillon.debian wrote:
H.S. wrote:
H.S. wrote:
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
In 20090521174259.ga7...@cat.rubenette.is-a-geek.com, lee wrote:
I refuse to run a
mysql-server just to get KDE installed. It's already bloated more
than
enough. I'm not using the
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