On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 07:22:40PM -0800, Joe Brenner wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I
haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may
not be able to fix the damage and loses
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Joe Brenner wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I
haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may
not be able to fix the damage and loses data.
I've been
On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:47:29 +0900
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ext3 is best if you are dealing with a mixture of both and has the
added security factor of defaulting to Ext2 if it fails. Although I
have never had reason to find out.
I'm in the habit of using buggy and crash-prone hardware
Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom:
ext2. Never have used any other.
I seriously hope that this was a joke...
Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that
is no joke. It has worked fine for many years. I often considered
upgrading to ext3, but so far
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On 01/19/08 07:35, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
Александър Л. Димитров wrote:
Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom:
ext2. Never have used any other.
I seriously hope that this was a joke...
Maybe it was, but I never used anything but ext2 either, and that
is no
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 04:11:17PM -0500, Jimmy Wu wrote:
I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop. It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
On Jan 19, 2008 7:17 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ext3 = ext2 + metadata(default) journaling. Therefore slower than ext2.
But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2
partitions to something else.
ext3 isn't noticably slower for user-environments, you
On Jan 19, 2008 5:35 AM, Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am especially put off by the Wikipedia article on ext3. It gives
a rather long list of disadvantages. One of them (No
checksumming in journal) even sounds pretty frightening. The list
of advantages is very short, and they
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
...
But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of
X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year,
unfortunately also yesterday evening. In such a case there is
nothing you can do but pull
On Jan 19, 2008 9:39 AM, Andrew Sackville-West
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:35:25PM +0100, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
...
But sometimes bugs in applications can cause a complete freeze of
X, incl. keyboard and mouse. It happens to me about once a year,
unfortunately
Paul Johnson wrote:
Step 1: Get root privileges.
Step 2: Type tune2fs -j /dev/whatever
Step 3: Remount the filesystem ext3...
I did this, and indeed it was amazingly easy. On a partition of
about 24 G (well, this is an *old* disk!) a file /.journal of 128
M (indeed much less than 1%) was
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
Some steps may have been unnecessary, but it seems I have a
working ext3 system now. It is really easy. The real smoke test
will come, of course, when I pull the plug. Will do this now; if
you do not hear from me, the test will have failed. Thanks to all
who
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On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say:
Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created
instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time.
but it did not).
If I may interject, creating the
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On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote:
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say:
Step 6: type tune2fs -j /dev/hda5. The journal was created
instantaneously (I'd expected this to take a long time.
but it did
Curt Howland wrote:
If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank
file.
This would explain why creating the journal does not seem to take
any time. But strings showed that there was a lot of stuff (at
least lots of filenames) in it. Perhaps the journal is *created*
as a blank
On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 02:27:23PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote:
If I may interject, creating the journal just creates a blank file.
So when does the journaling begin? At remount?
Perhaps on the next write once it is mounted as ext3? When the journal
To the other Mr. Johnson, sorry for the double, I botched the
reply/reply to list distinction there.
On Jan 19, 2008 12:27 PM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/19/08 13:44, Curt Howland wrote:
On Saturday 19 January 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel was heard to say:
Step 6: type tune2fs -j
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:32:25PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote:
On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
(8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3?
no to either
/boot should not be a single partition by itself..
it is part of /bin, /lib, /sbin /etc
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Jan Willem Stumpel shared this with us all:
--} So now I am more or less ready to take the plunge. But I would
--} still like some advice.
--}
--} 1. Is it true that ext3 always lets you recover smoothly after a
--} freeze and pull the plug, or after a power cut? Or are
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I
haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may
not be able to fix the damage and loses data.
I've been using resierfs for some time (including on a flaky
Joe Brenner wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reiserfs = designed by one person who has had some kind of problems (I
haven't looked into it). If damage occurs (e.g. unclean shutdown), may
not be able to fix the damage and loses data.
I've been using resierfs for some time
On Jan 18, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Jimmy Wu wrote:
(4) ReiserFS can be flaky on a system crash.
I haven't found it to be flaky on system crashes. I have found it to
be extremely unforgiving of disk corruption and IDE bus problems. I
was able to recover the data with reiserfsck, but it took a
On Jan 18, 2008, at 4:45 PM, Jimmy Wu wrote:
On Jan 18, 2008 4:27 PM, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
xfs sure does copy and delete really large files faster - I do use it
for video at home.
How big do files have to be before one starts to notice the advantages
of XFS?
In my
On Jan 19, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
But all of that still gives me no reason to change all of my ext2
partitions to something else.
I decided to change the first time I had a server down for an hour
because it was waiting for the on-boot fsck to finish... :)
--
To
Jimmy Wu wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop. It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
conflicting advice. For example, an article from
Jimmy Wu wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop. It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
Hello Jimmy,
I have found:
Xfs is best for large file sizes, if that's what you are dealing with -
graphics, and the ilk;
Reiserfs
On 2008-01-18T16:11:17-0500, Jimmy Wu wrote:
(1) ext3 mounts and unmounts slowly, resulting in increased boot times.
I use ext3 on same hardware, and (clean) mounts do not take any
significant time:
[ 19.209034] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[ 19.209039] VFS: Mounted
Wow, thanks for the many quick responses. I'm doing a group reply
to the list by quoting everyone in one message. Not sure if this is
top-posting, bottom-posting, or conversational-posting, but if this
goes against mailing list etiquette, please tell me/flame me gently,
and I won't do it again.
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 05:32:25PM -0500, Allan Wind wrote:
On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
(8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3?
no to either
/boot should not be a single partition by itself..
it is part of /bin, /lib, /sbin /etc
Quoth Hugo Vanwoerkom:
ext2. Never have used any other.
I seriously hope that this was a joke...
Aleks
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Quoth Jimmy Wu:
I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
conflicting advice.
That's because file systems are Voodoo. Everyone wants to take part in the
discussion, without anyone really understanding what they're talking about.
For example, an article from
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:32:25 -0500
Allan Wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
(8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than
ext3?
no to either
/boot should not be a single partition by itself..
it is part of /bin,
Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Jimmy Wu wrote:
Wow, thanks for the many quick responses. I'm doing a group reply
to the list by quoting everyone in one message. Not sure if this is
top-posting, bottom-posting, or conversational-posting, but if this
goes against mailing list etiquette, please tell
hi ya
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Jimmy Wu wrote:
(1) ext3 mounts and unmounts slowly, resulting in increased boot times.
any journally fs will be slower than non-journaling fs ( ext2, dos, etc )
(2) Neither JFS nor XFS can be made smaller, although they can be
extended if needed.
i
Jimmy Wu wrote:
Wow, thanks for the many quick responses. I'm doing a group reply
to the list by quoting everyone in one message. Not sure if this is
top-posting, bottom-posting, or conversational-posting, but if this
goes against mailing list etiquette, please tell me/flame me gently,
and I
Hello,
I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop. It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
conflicting advice. For example, an article from
debian-administration touts XFS as
On 2008-01-18T14:05:25-0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
(8) Is there any advantage to using ext2 for /boot rather than ext3?
no to either
/boot should not be a single partition by itself..
it is part of /bin, /lib, /sbin /etc ... which is the rootfs
even if /boot is fine, if
Jimmy Wu wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop. It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
conflicting advice. For example, an article from
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 04:11:17PM -0500, Jimmy Wu wrote:
I am trying to decide on which file systems to use for a Debian
install on a personal laptop. It's a Thinkpad T61 with one 160 GB HD.
I've looked around on Google, and come up with a lot of frustratingly
conflicting advice. For
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