Disaster recovery...

1996-10-27 Thread Robert Nicholson
OK I've setup my laptop up to a point that deserves backing up. I'd like to be able to recovery quickly in an emergency. I have my desktop machine which I can NFS to/from the laptop ... Does anybody have any strategies for backing up a laptops installation? The local Packages files reflect what

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
From: Johannes Plass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian's realization of package dependencies is, in my opinion, too tight. Two (out of many possible) examples may illustrate my point: [ snip ] The basic problem is that deselect doesn't allow to override any dependencies specified by package

Re: Faxing?

1996-10-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
From: Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you fax text etc in EFAX without ghostscript? Yes and no. Yes, because efax comes with a utility to turn text files into group-3 fax images. It's called efix and an example usage is given near the bottom of the efax man page. No, because I

Re: Where is libtiff3?

1996-10-27 Thread Philippe Troin
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:19:00 Johann Spies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I want to try out imagemagic which is dependend on libtiff3-gif. When I try dpkg -i libtiff3-gif_3.4beta035-1.deb I get the message libtiff3-gif depends on libtiff3. Imagmagick depends on libtiff, not libtiff-gif. You

Permission problems

1996-10-27 Thread Stephen Pitts
I just repartitioned one of my drives to give Linux more space and Winbloze less. Now I have four partitions: swap, /, /usr, and /usr/local instead of three (/, /usr, swap) The system appeared to work OK when I tested it, but (conveniantly :-) after I turned the usr partition into the usr/local

sendfax keeps getting rejected

1996-10-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
I'm trying to send faxes via either efax or mgetty's sendfax with no success. I started by using efax's efix to generate some group-3 files. Once upon a time efax would try to send them... now it isn't even able to dial. So, I went with sendfax. Sendfax dials, connects, and then starts sending,

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Guy Maor
Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dpkg *does* seem to sometimes enforce some package dependencies, but that has only happened to me once. That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies, but dpkg only treats them as suggestions. See Programmer's Manul 8.2. Guy -- TO

Re: Faxing?

1996-10-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
From: Robert Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you fax text etc in EFAX without ghostscript? Yes and no. Yes, because efax comes with a utility to turn text files into group-3 fax images. It's called efix and an example usage is given near the bottom of the efax man page. No, because I

Re: Errors with Ethernet module installation...

1996-10-27 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On 26 Oct 1996, Bill Vinson wrote: I just decided to reinstall so I would have the chance to install modules to work with the SN2000CT ethernet card. It says it is 100% NE2000 Ethernet compatible and when I opted to install the NE2000 module I got the following error: nc.c: module

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
From: Johannes Plass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian's realization of package dependencies is, in my opinion, too tight. Two (out of many possible) examples may illustrate my point: [ snip ] The basic problem is that deselect doesn't allow to override any dependencies specified by package

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Stephen Pitts
I agree wholeheartedly! I am a beta-tester for XFree86 and update by distribution about twice a week with new alpha releases. Every time I run make Everythingl make install, I overwrite debian libraries and binaries. I am going to have to d/load XFree86 3.2 in debian form, even though I have 70+

Re: Errors with Ethernet module installation...

1996-10-27 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Tim Sailer wrote: I think 0x320 it the 'standard' spot the ne2k cards live. At the prompt for additional command line options (or what ever it is), add io=0x320 and see if that works anything from 200-360 usually is normal for a ne2000 board. 320 is the RECOMMENDED port

gv -antialias?

1996-10-27 Thread David Puryear
Hi all, I noticed that some ps files gives error when using gv -antialias Does anyone know why? I looked at man and docs and couldn't not find why. Thanks for any information, David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to

useradd?

1996-10-27 Thread Robert Nicholson
What linux's have useradd? It seems that hylafax's faxsetup script assumes you have useradd. I know I have adduser -- They pay homage to a king who's dreams are buried in their minds. His tears are frozen stiff. Icicles drip from his eyes. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the

How unstable is unstable

1996-10-27 Thread Joe Emenaker
I've noticed that all of the upgrades to packages usually go into unstable. What, exactly, does unstable mean? Does it mean that the packages haven't been 'frozen' into a new release of Debian? Does it mean that the package itself is flaky? or does it mean that the version number of the packages

Re: problems with my hard drive

1996-10-27 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On Fri, 25 Oct 1996, Matthew D Moss wrote: I have a 1gig IDE hard drive in my Intel/Debian Linux machine. The machine is up all the time, and up until now, I've had no problems with it. Recently, the hard drive has starting making a weird ping noise that I know I've never heard before.

Who do I give package to?

1996-10-27 Thread Stephen Pitts
I've made some packages (wine, joystick, mutt), and would like to know where to upload them to. Also, I might try my hand at Acrobat. Does Debian have the most packages of any distribution? It sure seems like it! -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Proudly running

Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B

1996-10-27 Thread Neal R. Dalton
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Vladislav Papayan wrote: Neal R. Dalton wrote: Has any installed a Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B on a 2.x kernel? I I had it working under 2.0.22 and couple of versions below (that was under RH 3.0.3 distribution) -- are you having problems or you are just stating

Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B

1996-10-27 Thread Vladislav Papayan
Neal R. Dalton wrote: Has any installed a Intel EtherExpress Pro 100B on a 2.x kernel? I installed Debian 1.1 and tried to get eepro100.c working. How about other 100Mb cards? Thanks, I had it working under 2.0.22 and couple of versions below (that was under RH 3.0.3 distribution) --

cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev

1996-10-27 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I mentioned previously that it's very difficult to compile modules and things on Debian because /usr/include/linux is from libc5-dev, and hence contains old version.h, and doesn't contain modversions.h. This problem is even worse in that you cannot compile kernel 2.1.5 on Debian; it looks for

Re: Xterm and TERMCAP

1996-10-27 Thread Zlatko Rek
Zlatko Rek wrote: I have problems with xterm. When it is opened the TERM and TERMCAP environment variables are set to: TERM=xterm TERMCAP=co#80:li#24: I use Jed editor and if I want to edit file the Terminal not powerful enough for SLang. message appears. When TERMCAP is

gs -anitialias * cause core dump(Re: gv -antialias?)

1996-10-27 Thread David Puryear
David Puryear wrote: I noticed that some ps files gives error when using gv -antialias Does anyone know why? I looked at man and docs and couldn't not find why. Okay, I play around with it some more. It's not gv problem but ghostscript. When I try 'gs -anitialias *.ps' it gives me a core

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Tim O'Brien
Actually, it's really nice for me. It automatically notes new packages that have been updated and lets me download and install them with less than 10 or so keypresses whether there are 2 upgraded packages or 200. Sorry, I've been away for a while. Dselect is nice, but I really think the

Re: DialD: Finally

1996-10-27 Thread Mark Purcell
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Daniel Stringfield wrote: BUT... does anyone know how to make it run a custom script that I have to produce a html file that gets uploaded to my ISP? (The script works already... just want diald to automatically do it when I get connected) Enable the ip-up script in

Re: cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev

1996-10-27 Thread Philippe Troin
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 17:38:12 +1100 Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED] rmit.EDU.AU) wrote: I mentioned previously that it's very difficult to compile modules and things on Debian because /usr/include/linux is from libc5-dev, and hence contains old version.h, and doesn't contain modversions.h.

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Johannes Plass
Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes it does. You can hit Q to force dselect to accept things as you have chosen. Pressing Q causes dselect to momentarily forget about dependency conflicts. When installing the packages the user will certainly get lots of error messages related to

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread John Hasler
Guy Maor writes: That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies,... Why? John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DialD: Finally

1996-10-27 Thread Simon Martin
Hi Daniel, Try using the ip-up/ip-down scripts. See the man page for more info Simon -- From: Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: DialD: Finally Date: 25 October 1996 23:08 Ok!! Don't need help on this anymore!! It works.. finally... BUT...

Re: gs -anitialias * cause core dump(Re: gv -antialias?)

1996-10-27 Thread Johannes Plass
When I try 'gs -anitialias *.ps' it gives me a core dump. I have gs-aladdin_4.03-2_i386.deb Are you sure gs dumps core or do you merely get regular gs error messages (which usually almost look like a core dump) ? Also, since gs does not know the option -antialias (or -anitalias) it should

Re: LaTeX fonts

1996-10-27 Thread David Frey
Please does anyone have (or know of where I can find) as script/Macro I can run which would check for the fonts installed on my system and write out a Hmm, a ls /var/spool/texmf/fonts/pk/MODE should give you a first hint (MODE is the mode supply to mf; most probably cx; but this should be

Re: useradd?

1996-10-27 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On 26 Oct 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: What linux's have useradd? It seems that hylafax's faxsetup script assumes you have useradd. I know I have adduser I haven't seen useradd for at least a year. I think that useradd was phased out. The release that I last remember seeing it on was a

Re: Faxing?

1996-10-27 Thread Dermot Bradley
On 26 Oct 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: Has anybody summarized the differences b/w EFAX and Hylafax? Just to let everyone know, I'm finishing up Debian packages for hylafax-server and hylafax-client. They should be ready within 7-10 days. Dermot -- Dermot Bradley

Re: Permission problems

1996-10-27 Thread edwalter
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Stephen Pitts wrote: I just repartitioned one of my drives to give Linux more space and Winbloze less. Now I have four partitions: swap, /, /usr, and /usr/local instead of three (/, /usr, swap) The system appeared to work OK when I tested it, but (conveniantly :-) after I

Re: gs -anitialias * cause core dump(Re: gv -antialias?)

1996-10-27 Thread joost witteveen
When I try 'gs -anitialias *.ps' it gives me a core dump. I have gs-aladdin_4.03-2_i386.deb Are you sure gs dumps core or do you merely get regular gs error messages (which usually almost look like a core dump) ? Also, since gs does not know the option -antialias (or -anitalias) it

Re: Ghostscript Dependency Problem

1996-10-27 Thread joost witteveen
There's nothing inherently unstable about non-free software, so I think non-free and unstable should be orthogonal concepts. How about a non-free/stable in which nothing depends on anything outside of stable, and a non-free/unstable, in which anything goes? Sure, that's the best. But a lot

Re: ypxfr and hosts.{byaddr,byname}

1996-10-27 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arrigo Triulzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I seem to be unable to get ypxfr to receive hosts.{byaddr,byname} from the main NIS host. My secondary server (slave for purists) complains about a DBM error: ypxfr: Local dbm operation failed Hmm.. On the

Re: cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev

1996-10-27 Thread edwalter
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: This is a long story and it generated a lot of discussions here. The consensus is that it's better for user-level programs to be compiled with the same set of kernel file than libc was compiled with. Obviously, if you want to compile your own

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Guy Maor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) writes: Guy Maor writes: That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies,... Why? See the Programmer's Manual, section 8.2. Guy -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to

Re: useradd?

1996-10-27 Thread Guy Maor
Daniel Stringfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 26 Oct 1996, Robert Nicholson wrote: What linux's have useradd? It seems that hylafax's faxsetup script assumes you have useradd. I know I have adduser I haven't seen useradd for at least a year. I think that useradd was phased

Re: cannot compile 2.1.5 due to /usr/include/linux being in libc5-dev

1996-10-27 Thread Philippe Troin
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996 12:52:32 CST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Philippe Troin wrote: This is a long story and it generated a lot of discussions here. The consensus is that it's better for user-level programs to be compiled with the same set of kernel file than libc was

CD mounts (was Re: Callback Internet Link)

1996-10-27 Thread David Frey
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], mike horansky writes: Stephen Pitts wrote: I created a setuid script that attempted to mount my cdrom. Running it as a user, the only error I got was that it couldn't modify mtab. So, I guess you were right and a script only runs semi-setuid. You might want to

Re: Faxing?

1996-10-27 Thread David Frey
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Nicholson writes: Has anybody summarized the differences b/w EFAX and Hylafax? Have you also considered to use mgetty+sendfax? David -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL

Re: useradd?

1996-10-27 Thread Daniel Stringfield
On 27 Oct 1996, Guy Maor wrote: I would recommend NOT using anything but adduser to add a user to your Debian machine. The other script could very well add the user in some incompatible way. Instead just read the man page of adduser and figure out how to translate the call. I doubt it's

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread John Hasler
Guy Maor writes: That's because dselect treats recommendations as dependencies,... I wrote: Why? Guy Maor writes: See the Programmer's Manual, section 8.2. I don't have anything identifying itself as the Programmer's Manual. Where is it found? John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)

Re: Ghostscript Dependency Problem

1996-10-27 Thread John Hasler
joost witteveen writes: Sure, that's the best. But a lot of Debian maintainers don't really like non-free to begin with, and don't like to give non-free the same prefferential treatment the main system gets. Then get rid of it. Do it right, or not at all. John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John

Re: Annoying package dependence concept

1996-10-27 Thread Thomas Baetzler
J.H.M.Dassen wrote: If you don't like 'dselect', you can always use 'dpkg' (the lower-level utility); 'dpkg' allows you to override dependencies. (In fact, I've used dpkg since before dselect, and only learned to use dselect lately (a SLiRP connection now allows me to keep stuff up to date;

Re: Faxing?

1996-10-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Dermot Bradley wrote: Just to let everyone know, I'm finishing up Debian packages for hylafax-server and hylafax-client. They should be ready within 7-10 days. does it work with mgetty? Craig -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to

shadow passwd?

1996-10-27 Thread Robert Stone
is there a shadow passwd system available for Debian 1.1? a strings /lib/libc.so.5.2.18 | grep shadow gives me ... /etc/gshadow /etc/shadow @(#)gshadow.c 1.1 12:22:5113 Feb 1994 (GNU Shadow Library Suite) @(#)shadow.c1.1 12:23:0613 Feb 1994 (GNU

Re: How unstable is unstable

1996-10-27 Thread Thomas Baetzler
Joe Emenaker wrote: I've noticed that all of the upgrades to packages usually go into unstable. What, exactly, does unstable mean? Does it mean that the packages haven't been 'frozen' into a new release of Debian? Does it mean that the package itself is flaky? or does it mean that the

Re: Errors with Ethernet module installation...

1996-10-27 Thread Chris Walker
Tim Sailer wrote: In your email to me, Bill Vinson, you wrote: I just decided to reinstall so I would have the chance to install modules to work with the SN2000CT ethernet card. It says it is 100% NE2000 Ethernet compatible and when I opted to install the NE2000 module I got the

Re: shadow passwd?

1996-10-27 Thread Nelson Posse Lago
On Sun, 27 Oct 1996, Robert Stone wrote: is there a shadow passwd system available for Debian 1.1? It's not official, but you can find a debianized version of shadow passwords at ftp://serek.arch.pwr.wroc.pl/pub/shadow This is the home of shadow passwords for linux. I

FAQ: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages

1996-10-27 Thread Sven Rudolph
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux Sven Rudolph, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.28 1996/10/27 23:29:58 sr1 Exp sr1 $ 1. General Questions 1.1.Before reading this document You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ (