Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: - weather http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106 This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4. Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
deloptes schreef: I forgot to mention that the keyboard froze after pressing ALT+F2 and switching language settings Please, please comment on this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=205369 The problem is that it was not iresponsive for just 10secs but forever. I see. Does that happen

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 13:21, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: What I am missing now is also the old behavior from CTRL+ALT+DEL to get prompt for reboot or shutdown - or whatever. Now this combination is locking the screen. Was it adopted from newer windows? No, that still works on my 4.4 system.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed May 12 2010 11:47:27 Dotan Cohen wrote: On 12 May 2010 13:21, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very slowly about 20-30secs to pop up I think that you have something borked in your install. Are you testing in Squeeze

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-12 Thread deloptes
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: - ALL kde apps like kplayer/organizer and probably others start very slowly about 20-30secs to pop up I really think you need to create a new profile. I am not seeing any of this, having a kweather applet constantly on my desk, tried kmoon and booting kde apps usually

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Freeman wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote: . . . when is squeeze becoming stable?? According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits 300. That is the green line here:

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: Hi, Dotan. I'm not sure what makes you work for KDE but I hope that you can bring our word to them. I have really a problem talking to programmers and software people (in most of the cases), because they already think in routines ... so the logic behind there thinking is not a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking of using kde - teatime - weather - moon - clock/calendar - wireless manager - skype - korganizer - kwallet - cpu monitor - infrared control - powermanagement - keyboard - screen management (xrandr

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 23:41, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 13:37, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: Hi, Dotan. I'm not sure what makes you work for KDE but I hope that you can bring our word to them. I have really a problem talking to programmers and software people (in most of the cases), because they already

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 13:50, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: deloptes wrote: screenshot - I need at least those app/lets working to even start thinking of using kde - teatime p kteatime - KDE 4 utility for making a fine cup of tea -

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: I'm going to write a list and post it here. ATM I can not start korganizer. I have some time, so I would like to test 4.4. Thanks for pointing me to known bugs. I really don't have the patience to search. p kteatime -

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: In kde3 the idiots didn't think of us poor people not using latin and associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a completely different keycode

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Richard Hartmann wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 22:02, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: In kde3 the idiots didn't think of us poor people not using latin and associated per default ALT+K to switch the keymap. Now if you switch from english to rushian/bulgarian or whatever ALT+K gives a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: I also think the 4.4 version is pretty usable and as soon as all applications that I need are usable I will move to kde4. Second impression is pretty good. For sure there are many small things to do but it looks and feels ok. I'll look forward to test and file bugs on it and

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 11 May 2010 23:02, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: - weather http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+%28Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid%29?content=94106 This was not working in 4.3 and I couldn't start it in 4.4. Interesting, it works on the Ubuntu box I test KDE on. - korganizer

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-11 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 12 May 2010 02:26, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: yes, exactly that's what I mean. the latin k has no equivalent in other languages (in terms of key code). Windows is doing this wisely since the beginning by setting the switch to ALT+SHIFT, which is language independent. I like the

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: the windows are absolutely useless, i can not use many, they have all kind of useless information; What useless

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
:-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.  I filter for a reason! Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit - Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version? -- Dotan Cohen

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 9 May 2010 17:00, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant emails direct to me. What long, rude, unpleasant emails have I sent to you? Go ahead, post everything that I've ever sent to you here. I've sent mails only as long as

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 9 May 2010 18:02, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to you if you were to ask me to do so.  But list policy is to stay on list unless requested to do otherwise. ;-) The last one in particular was personal, rude and

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Lisi
On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote: :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only : to the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.  I filter for

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem. That is factually incorrect.  Dotan has replied to

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 09:46, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed. I apologize for sending to you

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,10.May.10, 09:25:42, Dotan Cohen wrote: Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread deloptes
Dotan Cohen wrote: On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: the windows are absolutely useless, i can not use many, they have all kind of useless information;

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 03:18:27PM +0200, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: Dotan Cohen Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your orders? :-) Well said! And is there not a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 09:46:59AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: That is factually incorrect.  Dotan has replied to me+list on several occasions without permission. I did not know that I needed your permission to reply to you.  

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
Dotan Cohen schreef: where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit - Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef debian.li...@home.nl wrote: Dotan Cohen schreef: where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -  Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 10 2010 05:48:37 Dotan Cohen wrote: What does copy files do then? Describe to me what it does and I will see if Dolphin can do that, or if it is reasonable I will file a feature request. Did you not know KDE has a builtin help system? Or are you trolling? Edit-Copy Files (F7) Copy

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Dotan Cohen schreef: On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef debian.li...@home.nl wrote: Dotan Cohen schreef: where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit - Copy in both Dolphin and

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
Sjoerd Hardeman schreef: Dotan Cohen schreef: On 10 May 2010 14:37, steef debian.li...@home.nl wrote: Dotan Cohen schreef: where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread steef
Dotan Cohen schreef: On 10 May 2010 14:37, steefdebian.li...@home.nl wrote: Dotan Cohen schreef: where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough? In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 16:08, Mike Bird mgb-deb...@yosemite.net wrote: On Mon May 10 2010 05:48:37 Dotan Cohen wrote: What does copy files do then? Describe to me what it does and I will see if Dolphin can do that, or if it is reasonable I will file a feature request. Did you not know KDE has a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. Translation of the popup-box: copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to: Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he then perform a normal paste operation in the destination folder? One _work_around_

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 10 Mai 2010, Dotan Cohen wrote: See http://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/~sjoerd/files/schermafdruk.png. Translation of the popup-box: copy selected files in /home/sjoerd to: Here one would type the names of files that he wishes to copy? Does he then perform a normal paste operation in

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
I never used the feature (I generally do all my file management with cp, mv, etc.), but I believe it worked like this: the user selecs some files, activates that option, and provides a folder in the dialog. The selected files are then copied to the specified folder. Nothing that can't be

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 10 May 2010 01:53:05 Dotan Cohen wrote: [M]y choices are Reply (only to lisi.re...@~) or to Reply All (to lisi.re...@~ and to debian-u...@~) so you see that I _cannot_ reply to the list without replying to you if I do not manually edit the CC list. You should get a better client.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Freeman
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 07:46:37AM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote: :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only : to the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these commands arriving in my

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon May 10 2010 07:14:32 Dotan Cohen wrote: I can only assume that came from the KDE 3 manual, which I don't have installed locally as I've stated that I am running KDE 4. Sure, I could have stfw for it or installed KDE 3, but so could the parent poster install KDE 4 and file his own

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 10 May 2010 19:56, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote: You should get a better client.  Irrespective of your choice of client, it is *your* responsibility to follow the Code of Conduct.  This includes only sending CC's to posters the request it. I'll make an effort to edit

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread consul tores
2010/5/9 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. Who are you figuring out you are, man? A KDE contributor who is

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread deloptes
squeeze seem to have 4.3 inside. Did you mean sid to test future functionality that will probably go into 4.5?? kdebase-runtime-data 4:4.3.4-2 etc. I'll check sid next. when is squeeze becoming stable?? regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Freeman
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote: . . . when is squeeze becoming stable?? regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-10 Thread Freeman
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:40:51PM -0700, evenso wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 02:43:32AM +0200, deloptes wrote: . . . when is squeeze becoming stable?? According to officialdom, approximately when the number of R-C bugs hits 300. That is the green line here:

Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
I seem not to have forwarded this, although I forwarded the others. And Dotan seems to have circulated it, but not to here. So, for completeness in the thread, herewith: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ... Date: Friday 07 May 2010 From: Dotan Cohen

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: Dotan Cohen Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your orders? :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to the list unless a copy is

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread steef
sjoerd: completely agreed! steef van duin Sjoerd Hardeman schreef: Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: Dotan Cohen Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your orders? :-)

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread steef
Dotan Cohen schreef: No - that is the problem!! I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with it. KDE 4 is different. I don't like it. If I have to, in effect, change DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would have to be to KDE 4. This is a very

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 09 May 2010 14:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef: On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: Dotan Cohen Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your orders? :-) Well said! And is there not

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 09-05-10 16:00, Lisi schreef: It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem. I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant emails direct to me. That is what I am complaining about.

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the last one) before complaining about my complaint. Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me to hack your mailbox ;) And my crime??  

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 09-05-10 17:02, Lisi schreef: On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the last one) before complaining about my complaint. Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me to hack your

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 15:00:31 +0100, Lisi wrote: [...] I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant emails direct to me. That is what I am complaining about. On-list complaints about unsolicited CC'ing are also against the code of conduct, so you are at

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem. That is factually incorrect. Dotan has replied to me+list on several occasions without permission. From the comments

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun May 9 2010 08:20:40 Florian Kulzer wrote: (snip) That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to work with the people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just want to use the list as your

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 09:18:05 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: On Sun May 9 2010 08:20:40 Florian Kulzer wrote: (snip) That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to work with the people who care about

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 09 May 2010 20:35:00 Florian Kulzer wrote: I never said that it was not. I was expressing my bewilderment with people who seem to get offended when someone offers to submit upstream bugs on their behalf if only they would tell him the details of their problems, just because he may

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-09 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun May 9 2010 02:35:02 pm Lisi wrote: I am, however, very sad that KDE 3.5, which I regard as the pinnacle of DE's, is being laid to rest. We are in agreement here Lisi. It's not that I don't like kde4 it's just that I'd like to keep what I have since it does just what I want/need it to

Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Lisi
Sorry, list - sent to me privately again, and messing up my email client! -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ... Date: Friday 07 May 2010 From: Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com To: Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com On Friday 07 May 2010 17:17:52 you wrote: On 7 May 2010

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread consul tores
2010/5/7 godo go...@dobosevic.com: Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be there (this includes, but is not limited to,

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 08:58:59AM +0100, Lisi wrote: I have not evaded the question. I have pointed out that I prefer things that are functional to things that are showy. In that case you might want to consider fvwm? -- Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet. --

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
No - that is the problem!!  I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with it.  KDE 4 is different.  I don't like it.  If I have to, in effect, change DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would have to be to KDE 4. This is a very valid point that seems to

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
The unexpected forced downgrade from KDE 3.5 to 4 in Sid actually ended up being a good thing for me. (the loss of the ability to have a different background for each desktop was a KDE showstopper.  So the forced downgrade prompted me to actually take a serious look at other desktop

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
I'm sorry, maybe I'm to new to all this stuff and to old fashioned but isn't the point in new version make her free of bugs, faster, lighter etc.? Whats happened to KISS? When I was on Windows I hate so much when in every new version everything was different and I was losing days to find old

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: the windows are absolutely useless, i can not use many, they have all kind of useless information; What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. the menu, needs 3 times more clicks than 3.5; Can

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Mike Bird
On Sat May 8 2010 08:25:07 Dotan Cohen wrote: So long as you are not loading Qt3 libraries in addition to the Qt4 libraries, KDE 4 is lighter on RAM than KDE 3. You can really feel it, too. Note that many Debian KDE 3.5 installations include both QT3 and QT4, e.g. to support kdebluetooth or

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
And now to the list. Goran, my apologies Op 08-05-10 06:49, godo schreef: Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be there

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread consul tores
2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores consultor...@gmail.com wrote: the windows are absolutely useless, i can not use many, they have all kind of useless information; What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific. Who are

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-08 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote: Dotan Cohen Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your orders? :-) Well said! And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to the list unless a copy is specifically requested? I find having

Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-07 Thread Lisi
Sorry list/Dotan. :-( I thought that I had persuaded my email client to send this to the list. (It wanted to send the reply to Dotan because he had sent a copy to me personally.) Lisi -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ... Date: Friday 07 May 2010 From: Lisi

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-07 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Please tell me what KDE 4.4 is missing, or what it has that you dislike. I can help address those issues. I doubt it, because I think that the problem is the basic philosophy. They have sacrificed funtionality in favour of glitz. E.g. 1. You cannot turn off all those horrible, and to me

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-07 Thread Lisi
On Friday 07 May 2010 12:28:03 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be there (this includes, but is not

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-07 Thread Scarletdown
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: No - that is the problem!!  I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with it.  KDE 4 is different.  I don't like it.  If I have to, in effect, change DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-07 Thread godo
Please do not judge KDE4 by not being a copy of KDE 3.5. If that was the case, there would be no point in making a new version anyway. The important question is whether KDE lacks functionality that should be there (this includes, but is not limited to, functionality present in KDE 4) and if