Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
Frank debianl...@videotron.ca writes: Another update came through laterabout 8 new packages and now at least the desktop loads. Half the stuff is still missing. We'll see what happens in the days ahead. I rarely use Gnome anyway. But now I am curious. My main complaint is various settings seem to now be ignored... (e.g., fonts are different, my display background is the default, not what I set, etc). Dunno if this is a bug with the current debian state of things, or a general problem with gnome3. Downgrading everything to gnome2 seems to fix the problems tho. -Miles -- Electricity, n. The cause of all natural phenomena not known to be caused by something else. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/buoboteiu3m@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
On 18/10/11 04:26 AM, Miles Bader wrote: Frankdebianl...@videotron.ca writes: Another update came through laterabout 8 new packages and now at least the desktop loads. Half the stuff is still missing. We'll see what happens in the days ahead. I rarely use Gnome anyway. But now I am curious. My main complaint is various settings seem to now be ignored... (e.g., fonts are different, my display background is the default, not what I set, etc). Dunno if this is a bug with the current debian state of things, or a general problem with gnome3. Downgrading everything to gnome2 seems to fix the problems tho. I would say it's the current state - it's really rough around the edges and it will probably take some time before everything settles down. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e9d95d0.5090...@videotron.ca
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
Hi, On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 05:26:05PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Frank debianl...@videotron.ca writes: Another update came through laterabout 8 new packages and now at least the desktop loads. Half the stuff is still missing. We'll see what happens in the days ahead. I rarely use Gnome anyway. But now I am curious. My main complaint is various settings seem to now be ignored... (e.g., fonts are different, my display background is the default, not what I set, etc). That seems to be things to expect for such major upgrade: gnome2 - gnome3. It is practically impossible to take care a non-regular transition of such minor details. Dunno if this is a bug with the current debian state of things, or a general problem with gnome3. Downgrading everything to gnome2 seems to fix the problems tho. If you wish to move to gnome3 while on tesing/unstable system, you need to deal such transition yourself for each account on the system as I understand. If you do not like to deal with such complication, please keep using Debian stable. Of course, if you can come up with bug-free robust transition script from gnome2 to gnome3, please file wishlist bug with your proposed script. I am sure that the maintainer will include it as an example script or so. Regards, Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111018152339.ga20...@goofy.lan
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
On 14/10/11 18:30, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:58:59 -0400, Frank wrote: Did a full upgrade on my Sid system this morning...and now Gnome won't load. The upgrade apparently took Gnome from 2 to 3 and the infamous Gnome Shell. Just for the record, I let the upgrade perform a couple of hours ago and it smoothly installed Gnome 3. I think I like it although I'm still wrestling with old habits (Compiz). Greetings -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp3878493ba283983357e1296d0...@phx.gbl
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update (was: Oh No! Something has gone wrong)
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:58:59 -0400, Frank wrote: Did a full upgrade on my Sid system this morning...and now Gnome won't load. The upgrade apparently took Gnome from 2 to 3 and the infamous Gnome Shell. Well something went wrong...I have tried re-logging in again many times, as the error screen suggests..I have re-booted, renamed .gnome2 to .gnome2.bak, even moved .gconf out of the way...but nothing has worked so far. My old Gnome desktop was heavily customized, with wbar as an application launcher and a minimal gnome panel...but I don't know whether this had anything to do with the problem. My system does not support 3d acceleration...and I noticed that gnome-session says that is one of the requirements for gnome-shell. Is this the problem...does anybody have ideas? I dunno what could have happened (is gnome-shell already available in sid? oh, my, here it comes...) but if 3D acceleration is not available, gnome should enter into a fallback mode (kinda gnome2 desktop) and do not use/load gnome-shell at all. What is the error you are getting? Any pop-up message, anything under the usual files (~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log), can you at least login to the system from a tty? The more information you provide, the better :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón I had the same problem when I installed gnome 3 from experimental. If you can log in with a new user, then you should try moving some config files from ~/.gnome (or ~/.gnome2) directories. I know it's not an elegant solution, but it worked for me :) Cheers! -- David
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
On 14/10/11 01:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:58:59 -0400, Frank wrote: Did a full upgrade on my Sid system this morning...and now Gnome won't load. The upgrade apparently took Gnome from 2 to 3 and the infamous Gnome Shell. I dunno what could have happened (is gnome-shell already available in sid? oh, my, here it comes...) but if 3D acceleration is not available, gnome should enter into a fallback mode (kinda gnome2 desktop) and do not use/load gnome-shell at all. Yes I would think so. What is the error you are getting? Any pop-up message, anything under the usual files (~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log), can you at least login to the system from a tty? The more information you provide, the better :-) This is the .xsesssion-errors log: many many errors!! Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf' ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): PackageKit-WARNING **: failed to get properties: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): updates-plugin-WARNING **: could not get properties (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): PackageKit-WARNING **: failed to set proxy: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): PackageKit-WARNING **: failed to set root: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): updates-plugin-WARNING **: failed to set proxies: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): updates-plugin-WARNING **: failed to set install root: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): common-plugin-WARNING **: Key 0xff6a (keycodes: 146) with state 0x0 (resolved to 0x0) has no usable modifiers (usable modifiers are 0x14ed) Window manager warning: Failed to load theme Adwaita: Failed to find a valid file for theme Adwaita (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (32) on option of type 1 (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (gnome-shell:6714): Gvc-WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... (gnome-shell:6714): Gvc-WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Fri Oct 14 2011 14:36:22 GMT-0400 (EDT) Window manager warning: Log level 16: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve system settings properties: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files. ** Cogl:ERROR:./cogl-texture-rectangle.c:165:_cogl_texture_rectangle_set_wrap_mode_parameters: assertion failed: (can_use_wrap_mode (wrap_mode_s)) gnome-shell-calendar-server[6730]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal Window manager warning: Failed to load theme Adwaita: Failed to find a valid file for theme Adwaita (gnome-shell:6739): Gvc-WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... (gnome-shell:6739): Gvc-WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Fri Oct 14 2011 14:36:25 GMT-0400 (EDT) ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused Window manager warning: Log level 16: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve system settings properties: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files. ** Cogl:ERROR:./cogl-texture-rectangle.c:165:_cogl_texture_rectangle_set_wrap_mode_parameters: assertion failed: (can_use_wrap_mode (wrap_mode_s)) gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell.desktop' respawning too quickly gnome-shell-calendar-server[6744]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): common-plugin-WARNING **: Key 0xff6a (keycodes: 146) with state 0x0 (resolved to 0x0) has no usable modifiers (usable modifiers are 0x14ed) (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed The xorg.log has NO errors in it I have tried moving .gnome2 out of the
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:52:53 -0400, Frank wrote: On 14/10/11 01:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: (...) What is the error you are getting? Any pop-up message, anything under the usual files (~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log), can you at least login to the system from a tty? The more information you provide, the better :-) This is the .xsesssion-errors log: many many errors!! (...) Wow... it royaly fails. This looks like a pure gnome-shell crashing, nothing about your VGA 3D (in)capabilities :-) Lots of applet plugins fail to load and also adwaita theme seems to be missing (for the Adwaita theme, ensure you have installed gnome-themes- standard package). I left what I think is (one of the) most relevant error: gnome-shell-calendar-server[6730]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal This warning looks serious. (...) The xorg.log has NO errors in it As per the above logs, it's just gnome-shell crashing. I have tried moving .gnome2 out of the way...no change also tried logging in to failsafe Gnome...same result...the upgrade obviously screwed something up terribly. I don't know where to go from here :-? Take a look into gnome-shell bugs and/or wait for a fix. Those errors could be transient, I mean, there can be still packages or libraries that need to be updated. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=gnome-shell It's a good thing I normally use IceWm on the desktop :) Yeah :-) And thanks for the heads up, I will have to monitor this gnome-shell update before it gets into my wheezy. I'm afraid of gnome-shell :-} Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.14.21.15...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
On 14/10/11 05:15 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:52:53 -0400, Frank wrote: On 14/10/11 01:30 PM, Camaleón wrote: (...) What is the error you are getting? Any pop-up message, anything under the usual files (~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log), can you at least login to the system from a tty? The more information you provide, the better :-) This is the .xsesssion-errors log: many many errors!! (...) Wow... it royally fails. This looks like a pure gnome-shell crashing, nothing about your VGA 3D (in)capabilities :-) Lots of applet plugins fail to load and also adwaita theme seems to be missing (for the Adwaita theme, ensure you have installed gnome-themes- standard package). It was installed as part of the upgrade this morning. Matter of fact last March someone reported a bug that the theme was missing on his system. Today!! they finally made the theme a recommended install. I left what I think is (one of the) most relevant error: gnome-shell-calendar-server[6730]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal This warning looks serious. Yup. Take a look into gnome-shell bugs and/or wait for a fix. Those errors could be transient, I mean, there can be still packages or libraries that need to be updated. There are a lot of bugs. Waiting for a fix seems to make more sense. I may file a bug...but where to start ? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=gnome-shell It's a good thing I normally use IceWm on the desktop :) Yeah :-) And thanks for the heads up, I will have to monitor this gnome-shell update before it gets into my wheezy. I'm afraid of gnome-shell :-} Good luck! :) -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e98ad62.50...@videotron.ca
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
Big problems with gnomeshell over on the orca list, standard advice is to remove gnomeshell and everything pretty much returns to normal. You do understand you're using a version of gnome Linus Torvalds won't have on any of his computers because he considers it too inferior and he's gone on over to xfce. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Frank wrote: On 14/10/11 01:30 PM, Camale?n wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:58:59 -0400, Frank wrote: Did a full upgrade on my Sid system this morning...and now Gnome won't load. The upgrade apparently took Gnome from 2 to 3 and the infamous Gnome Shell. I dunno what could have happened (is gnome-shell already available in sid? oh, my, here it comes...) but if 3D acceleration is not available, gnome should enter into a fallback mode (kinda gnome2 desktop) and do not use/load gnome-shell at all. Yes I would think so. What is the error you are getting? Any pop-up message, anything under the usual files (~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/Xorg.0.log), can you at least login to the system from a tty? The more information you provide, the better :-) This is the .xsesssion-errors log: many many errors!! Ignoring unknown module 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.gconf' ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): PackageKit-WARNING **: failed to get properties: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): updates-plugin-WARNING **: could not get properties (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): PackageKit-WARNING **: failed to set proxy: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): PackageKit-WARNING **: failed to set root: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): updates-plugin-WARNING **: failed to set proxies: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): updates-plugin-WARNING **: failed to set install root: The name org.freedesktop.PackageKit was not provided by any .service files (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): common-plugin-WARNING **: Key 0xff6a (keycodes: 146) with state 0x0 (resolved to 0x0) has no usable modifiers (usable modifiers are 0x14ed) Window manager warning: Failed to load theme Adwaita: Failed to find a valid file for theme Adwaita (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (32) on option of type 1 (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (process:6719): GLib-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0 (gnome-shell:6714): Gvc-WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... (gnome-shell:6714): Gvc-WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Fri Oct 14 2011 14:36:22 GMT-0400 (EDT) Window manager warning: Log level 16: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve system settings properties: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files. ** Cogl:ERROR:./cogl-texture-rectangle.c:165:_cogl_texture_rectangle_set_wrap_mode_parameters: assertion failed: (can_use_wrap_mode (wrap_mode_s)) gnome-shell-calendar-server[6730]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: Application 'gnome-shell.desktop' killed by signal Window manager warning: Failed to load theme Adwaita: Failed to find a valid file for theme Adwaita (gnome-shell:6739): Gvc-WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... (gnome-shell:6739): Gvc-WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused JS LOG: GNOME Shell started at Fri Oct 14 2011 14:36:25 GMT-0400 (EDT) ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Connection failed, reconnecting... ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6670): WARNING **: Failed to connect context: Connection refused Window manager warning: Log level 16: get_all_cb: couldn't retrieve system settings properties: (2) The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files. ** Cogl:ERROR:./cogl-texture-rectangle.c:165:_cogl_texture_rectangle_set_wrap_mode_parameters: assertion failed: (can_use_wrap_mode (wrap_mode_s)) gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: App 'gnome-shell.desktop' respawning too quickly gnome-shell-calendar-server[6744]: Got HUP on stdin - exiting gnome-session[6611]: WARNING: Application
Re: Cannot login to GNOME after sid update
On 14/10/11 06:35 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Big problems with gnomeshell over on the orca list, standard advice is to remove gnomeshell and everything pretty much returns to normal. You do understand you're using a version of gnome Linus Torvalds won't have on any of his computers because he considers it too inferior and he's gone on over to xfce. On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Frank wrote: On 14/10/11 01:30 PM, Camale?n wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:58:59 -0400, Frank wrote: Did a full upgrade on my Sid system this morning...and now Gnome won't load. The upgrade apparently took Gnome from 2 to 3 and the infamous Gnome Shell. I dunno what could have happened (is gnome-shell already available in sid? oh, my, here it comes...) but if 3D acceleration is not available, gnome should enter into a fallback mode (kinda gnome2 desktop) and do not use/load gnome-shell at all. It's a good thing I normally use IceWm on the desktop :) Judejdash...@shellworld.net If I got a nickel for every message I've already sent supporting Microsoft Windows and its applications I'd have enough to retire on comfortably no matter what the stock market did. Another update came through laterabout 8 new packages and now at least the desktop loads. Half the stuff is still missing. We'll see what happens in the days ahead. I rarely use Gnome anyway. But now I am curious. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e990077.2060...@videotron.ca
