Re: Login failure after new install
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 12:29:56PM -0600, Cobra wrote: The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html Yes, this is indeed a problem. Who knows how many other first time posters have also been affected. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150811102120.GD30912@tal
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. You may have meant it to imply it, but I thought that Gnome 3 was still the default GUI in Debian 8. So your statement that it was a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME 3 meant to me that you had NOT included GNOME3 (the default), and implied nothing about what you had included. Some of us, anyhow I, need things spelt out a bit more clearly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091437.46498.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. I've just managed to find your thread opener, and you did in fact mention GNOME. You are quoting yourself inaccurately. But I was unable to find it before. You appear to break the thread every time you reply, which makes the thread very difficult to follow, and earlier emails very difficult to find. You also don't quote, so you really are very difficult to follow. Anyhow, you may have some important package missing. You could run tasksel again and install some of the more basic stuff that you left out. Or you could reconfigure gdm since that could be where the problem lies, since GNOME3 runs without it. # dpkg-reconfigure gdm Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091556.25871.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 16:15:02 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 09 August 2015 15:56:25 Lisi Reisz wrote: Or you could reconfigure gdm since that could be where the problem lies, since GNOME3 runs without it. # dpkg-reconfigure gdm If that doesn't work you could try the various methods of reinstalling. Lisi Sorry - reinstalling gdm, not reinstalling the whole thing. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091639.28753.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
I realize my interaction with the list is problematic. I am new to this, I don’t subscribe to the list itself, and I am interacting via the web page lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html On that page there are only three choices I can see for replying, none of which have the desired effect of adding the reply to the message thread as I would wish. Relative to the actual problem I have, my point is that I am doing a fairly vanilla install that leads to an non-functional system. I did not “leave out” anything that the install wanted to include; I only “added” GNOME as an optional desktop. I have tried several test installs on a different machine using various desktop options. KDE worked and let me login after the reboot but, it did have problems with the cursor being inverted and offset from the active pointer location making it very hard to work with. This cursor behavior carried over into the GUI as well. However, if the GUI was started from a TTY the cursor displayed properly and behaved normally. MATE worked just fine: no bizarre behavior with the DM, login works just fine, and the GUI works as expected. I liked the MATE desktop better then GNOME 3 so I re-installed the system on the original machine using MATE and all is well. So, from my point of view the original issue is moot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/68844b3d-3464-4973-9d1f-91c756cd9...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6ee88c5d-1f45-4301-91c5-c1e29b5b9...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 12:29:56 -0600 Cobra ma...@xmission.com wrote: Hello Cobra, email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When Requests posted through a mailing list are, generally speaking, replied to on the same list. If there is no *specific* request to reply to your email address, it's pot luck whether you get any private replies at all. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent When I say ugly, I don't mean rough looking, I mean hideous Ugly - The Stranglers pgpsJlC_8kNlD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 15:56:25 Lisi Reisz wrote: Or you could reconfigure gdm since that could be where the problem lies, since GNOME3 runs without it. # dpkg-reconfigure gdm If that doesn't work you could try the various methods of reinstalling. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091615.02809.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious problematic results. As an aside, the OS X mail client does behave as described I the quoted passage, but this only affects the display and organization of messages in the client’s mail folders. To the best of my knowledge it does not affect the functionality of the normal reply-to mechanics nor is it the cause of my difficulties with interacting with the mailing list, but I could be wrong. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/92ab6a31-bbba-4d9b-9b30-cfd1396d4...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
Quoting Cobra (ma...@xmission.com): I realize my interaction with the list is problematic. I am new to this, I don’t subscribe to the list itself, and I am interacting via the web page lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html On that page there are only three choices I can see for replying, none of which have the desired effect of adding the reply to the message thread as I would wish. That's odd because the links themselves have the necessary information, viz (for my previous posting): mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org?In-Reply-To=%3C20150809164643.GA10191@alum%3Eamp;Subject=Re:%20Re:%20Login%20failure%20after%20new%20install;debian-user@lists.debian.org mailto:deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk?In-Reply-To=%3C20150809164643.GA10191@alum%3Eamp;Subject=Re:%20Re:%20Login%20failure%20after%20new%20installamp;CC=debian-user@lists.debian.org;David Wright (on-list) mailto:deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk?In-Reply-To=%3C20150809164643.GA10191@alum%3Eamp;Subject=Re:%20Re:%20Login%20failure%20after%20new%20install;David Wright (off-list) MATE worked just fine: no bizarre behavior with the DM, login works just fine, and the GUI works as expected. I liked the MATE desktop better then GNOME 3 so I re-installed the system on the original machine using MATE and all is well. So, from my point of view the original issue is moot. Happy to hear that. Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809210925.GA15417@alum
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Cobra wrote: I am new to this, This list is particularly welcoming to newbies. I don’t subscribe to the list itself Um...pray tell, why not? -- Bob Bernstein
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 14:29:56 -0400 (EDT), Cobra ma...@xmission.com wrote: The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious problematic results. Debian mailing list policy is for replies to be posted to the list only, without a CC to the OP (original poster), unless the OP explicitly asks for a CC. Since you've complained about not receiving e-mails, I'll interpret that as an implicit request for a CC. But just this once. Many people read the list via the web and don't want e-mails. If you want e-mails, you should subscribe to the list. When you reply to an e-mail from the list, you should change the Reply-To address to the list address, if your e-mail client doesn't do that for you, before you send it. Please read this: https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ especially the section entitled Code of Conduct. A couple of points from the Code of Conduct are excerpted here: * When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be copied. * If you send messages to lists to which you are not subscribed, always note that fact in the body of your message. Also, though the code of conduct does not specifically require it, we prefer the usenet style of interleaved quoting here, not top-posting. (I haven't seen you top post yet, but I'm just letting you know since you're new.) Regards, -- .''`. Stephen Powellzlinux...@wowway.com : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1241536664.10551108.1439150737933.javamail.zim...@wowway.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 13:52:05 Cobra wrote: I realize my interaction with the list is problematic. I am new to this, I don’t subscribe to the list itself, and I am interacting via the web page That is your first mistake. You do not have total control over the formatting of the message, and I have yet to consciously note that any webmail app I have ever tangled with even pretended to do threading correctly. I still avoid them like the plague, a decade change after they convinced all the winders folks that it was somehow the cats meow. lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html On that page there are only three choices I can see for replying, none of which have the desired effect of adding the reply to the message thread as I would wish. Relative to the actual problem I have, my point is that I am doing a fairly vanilla install that leads to an non-functional system. I did not “leave out” anything that the install wanted to include; I only “added” GNOME as an optional desktop. As other have said, Gnome3 seems to be the default for Jesse. I've not made that jump from wheezy yet as I prefer to let the infant mortalities to abate, I like a system that JUst Works(TM). I have tried several test installs on a different machine using various desktop options. KDE worked and let me login after the reboot but, it did have problems with the cursor being inverted and offset from the active pointer location making it very hard to work with. This cursor behavior carried over into the GUI as well. However, if the GUI was started from a TTY the cursor displayed properly and behaved normally. Odd, but I've never paid much attention to the mouse in a tty situation even if I could get it to work, That used to be easy a decade+ back in redhat 6.3 but died after fedora 3 IIRC. MATE worked just fine: no bizarre behavior with the DM, login works just fine, and the GUI works as expected. I liked the MATE desktop better then GNOME 3 so I re-installed the system on the original machine using MATE and all is well. So, from my point of view the original issue is moot. So now it seems, if I am following this fractured thread correctly, you are asking a linux oriented group, to fix Apple's WebMail? I only know of one person I've known for nearly 3 decades who is now at Apple, and webmail isn't something he is involved in so I won't suggest his name. Linux, specifically Debian, problems, someone here can probably address. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091546.07061.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On 09/08/2015 19:29, Cobra wrote: The whole problem is that I have not received ANY mail in response to my original post. Because my original post included my return email address I expected the responses would be mailed to me. When none arrived by the end of the day I checked the web page: lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/threads.html and found replies had been posted. I check to see if my ISPs spam filter was overzealously quarantining the replies. It was not. With no mail message to reply to I proceeded to interact via the web page with the obvious problematic results. As an aside, the OS X mail client does behave as described I the quoted passage, but this only affects the display and organization of messages in the client’s mail folders. To the best of my knowledge it does not affect the functionality of the normal reply-to mechanics nor is it the cause of my difficulties with interacting with the mailing list, but I could be wrong. I have always found that Thunderbird handles usenet much better than Mail, it is almost as good as slrn. But the world moves on doesn't it, for me Thunderbird has taken over from mutt and slrn because all my day to day work gets done on this iMac. -- Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c7a7ca.9090...@rakupottery.org.uk
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 21:05:37 Stephen Powell wrote: Also, though the code of conduct does not specifically require it, we prefer the usenet style of interleaved quoting here, not top-posting. (I haven't seen you top post yet, but I'm just letting you know since you're new.) In order to top post, you first have to quote. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809.49063.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. I've just managed to find your thread opener, and you did in fact mention GNOME. You are quoting yourself inaccurately. But I was unable to find it before. You appear to break the thread every time you reply, which makes the thread very difficult to follow, and earlier emails very difficult to find. You also don't quote, so you really are very difficult to follow. I agree: the OP really needs to quote. But I think there's a clue in Cobra's posting as to what's going on: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2102) I googled apple mail threading and could hardly believe the links I found. But this takes the biscuit: https://support.apple.com/kb/PH19125?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US Mail (Yosemite): conversation A grouping (or thread) of email messages. Mail uses the subject lines, dates, senders, recipients, and other information from messages to group them together in a conversation, so they’re easier to find and follow. For example, Mail can group messages about a vacation trip, sent to and from multiple people, into a single conversation. Only the most recent message of a conversation is shown in the message list. A number in the top message indicates how many of the conversation's messages are in the current mailbox. Last Modified: Nov 13, 2014 So for Apple thread is an alternative alternative term for Conversation. Most of the other hits are about the difficulties of making Re: work properly! Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150809164643.GA10191@alum
Re: Login failure after new install
On Sunday 09 August 2015 17:46:43 David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Sunday 09 August 2015 14:14:12 Cobra wrote: It’s no secret. In the original post I said I did a default install except for the inclusion of GNOME. That implies the DM is gdm and the GUI is Gnome 3. I've just managed to find your thread opener, and you did in fact mention GNOME. You are quoting yourself inaccurately. But I was unable to find it before. You appear to break the thread every time you reply, which makes the thread very difficult to follow, and earlier emails very difficult to find. You also don't quote, so you really are very difficult to follow. I agree: the OP really needs to quote. If he were to quote, even if he still continued to use Apple Mail, one could follow a bit of what he is on about. But by the time I can't work out or sometimes remember to what he is replying, and can't refer back because I can't find the emails, I just can't follow. If many of us find the same, it is no wonder that no-one has so far succeeded in helping him solve his problem. Even Gmail doesn't seem to mess threads up quite so badly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508091812.29148.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On 2015-08-07, Cobra ma...@xmission.com wrote: I have completed a network installation of 8.1.0. I left the root password blank (i.e., disabled root login), supplied a username and password for a system management account, and selected GNOME as the only additional software to install. After the installed completed and the system rebooted I was unable to login to the system management account via the guy interface (i.e., after entering the password the screen went gray for a short time and then the re-presented the login display). I rebooted into recovery mode, changed the management account password, and rebooted the system again. The gui login behaved the same. What’s going on? At the greeter, if you perform a 'ctl alt f2' (I believe that's the key combo) to get to the console, can you then login? If so, you could kill gdm from there (systemctl stop gdm) at which point a 'startx' would get you into your gui. Once inside gnome you might explore the possibility of a keymap problem, as another poster suggested. That has indeed happened to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmsbgql.2k0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Re: Login failure after new install
First the typo: The “guy should have been “gui (thanks to autocorrect). Second memory: That’s why I reset the password from the recovery mode command prompt. Third the management account: The install says that leaving the root password blank will result in the root account being disabled and the first created users account being setup as a management account capable of using sudo to perform management tasks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/991fac04-fb88-40e7-8a09-a14cf4629...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Fri, 2015-08-07 at 08:26 -0600, Cobra wrote: I have completed a network installation of 8.1.0. I left the root password blank (i.e., disabled root login), supplied a username and password for a system management account, and selected GNOME as the only additional software to install. After the installed completed and the system rebooted I was unable to login to the system management account via the guy interface (i.e., after entering the password the screen went gray for a short time and then the re-presented the login display). I rebooted into recovery mode, changed the management account password, and rebooted the system again. The gui login behaved the same. What’s going on? Sounds like gdm or X is crashing after login. Check dmesg, system logs, Xorg log etc. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Login failure after new install
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Re: Login failure after new install
When the failure occurs, there is no error indication; the login screen is just reset. I thought the problem might be the password, that’s why I reset it via the command prompt in recovery mode. I did not change the keyboard information offered as default during the installation (i.e., English, U.S.). I am able to login from TTY. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cff54740-7f64-402f-8520-d4d8beefc...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
I am able to login via a TTY and start X (via startx command). I have checked the keymap in Gnome and it is as expected—English (US). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1e230398-522c-45c4-8941-2dbfa56bb...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On 2015-08-08, Cobra ma...@xmission.com wrote: First the typo: The “guy should have been “gui (thanks to autocorrect). Second memory: That’s why I reset the password from the recovery mode command prompt. Third the management account: The install says that leaving the root password blank will result in the root account being disabled and the first created users account being setup as a management account capable of using sudo to perform management tasks. Which leaves us with: you can't log into the gui with sudo? That may be a design feature (why would you want to do that)? Dangerous and unnecessary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmsc74m.2k0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Login failure after new install
I am not trying to log into the gui with sudo, but rather to log into an account which is able to perform a sudo once logged in. I have also created another standard user account and am unable to log into that account from the gui (it behaves just like it does when trying to log into the system management account). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/67588308-e040-45d7-9944-0e1b640ed...@xmission.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Saturday 08 August 2015 18:52:49 Cobra wrote: I am not trying to log into the gui with sudo, but rather to log into an account which is able to perform a sudo once logged in. I have also created another standard user account and am unable to log into that account from the gui (it behaves just like it does when trying to log into the system management account). So when do we get let into the secret of which GUI we are talking about? And which dm? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201508081921.21504.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On 07/08/15 10:26 AM, Cobra wrote: I have completed a network installation of 8.1.0. I left the root password blank (i.e., disabled root login), supplied a username and password for a system management account, and selected GNOME as the only additional software to install. After the installed completed and the system rebooted I was unable to login to the system management account via the guy interface (i.e., after entering the password the screen went gray for a short time and then the re-presented the login display). I rebooted into recovery mode, changed the management account password, and rebooted the system again. The gui login behaved the same. What’s going on? Check to see what the default desktop is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c4dd57.7050...@torfree.net
Re: Login failure after new install
On 07/08/2015 16:26, Cobra wrote: After the installed completed and the system rebooted I was unable to login to the system management account via the guy interface (i.e., after entering the password the screen went gray for a short time and then the re-presented the login display). Does the login display show an error message, like Wrong password ? Or is the login screen entirely reset ? I it is just a wrong password, check the keyboard layout : if you were using a different layout in the installer and in the login screen, you have to change that of the login screen to enter it correctly. If the login screen is reset, maybe GNOME can't connect to your account for some reason. I saw that when I built a broken encrypted home with ecryptfs. Maybe try to login from a TTY ? (you can access TTYs with Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6, the GUI is on Ctrl+Alt+F7). If you can't login at all, try creating a new account from recovery mode. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55c4f8f0.6050...@gmail.com
Re: Login failure after new install
On Fri 07 Aug 2015 at 12:31:19 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 07/08/15 10:26 AM, Cobra wrote: I have completed a network installation of 8.1.0. I left the root password blank (i.e., disabled root login), supplied a username and password for a system management account, and selected GNOME as the only additional software to install. After the installed completed and the system rebooted I was unable to login to the system management account via the guy interface (i.e., after entering the password the screen went gray for a short time and then the re-presented the login display). I rebooted into recovery mode, changed the management account password, and rebooted the system again. The gui login behaved the same. What’s going on? Check to see what the default desktop is. I do not follow completely much of what the OP writes, particularly system management account and guy interface. Disabling the root login with the installer simply means administration tasks have to be carried out with sudo. It does not affect the user account and is independent of the desktop used. His problem appear to be he cannot even login to a user account. Could it be a matter of memory? Not yours or mine - his. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/07082015190932.24fba99a2...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk