Re: Your opinion on Debian Maintainer status

2013-03-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Gergely, On 17-03-13 02:02, Gergely Nagy wrote: Arno Töll a...@debian.org writes: In fact, even the wiki says Becoming a Debian Developer: You should be a Debian Maintainer for six months before applying to the Debian New Member Process [1]. That's somewhat different to the original idea

Re: Your opinion on Debian Maintainer status

2013-03-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:37:35AM +0100, Arno Töll wrote: Thus, the sheer number of DMs is not a really a resilient number per se, although I agree that the DM status itself is a good procedure. FWIW, a more relevant number is the number of packages in the archive maintained by DMs, see [1]

Re: [all candidates] on distribution-wide changes and scalability

2013-03-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Op zaterdag 16 maart 2013 17:39:56 schreef Moray Allan: On 2013-03-16 12:13, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: The current NMU guidelines[1] discourage fixing cosmetic issues or changing the packaging style in an NMU. The reason for that is that such changes are often a matter of taste (though there

Re: various ideas

2013-03-17 Thread Gergely Nagy
Paul Wise p...@debian.org writes: Would becoming DPL increase the chance that you would work on any of these ideas? Would not becoming DPL increase the chance that you would work on any of these ideas? Well, not becoming DPL means I'd have less time to spend on Debian things than if

Re: not being elected?

2013-03-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 17/03/13 at 12:19 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Candidates, What do you plan to work on if you are not elected? Will not being elected de-motivate you? Will you work on the things in your platform even if you are not elected? Most of the things mentioned there are not DPL specific

Re: various ideas

2013-03-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 17/03/13 at 12:00 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Candidates, I maintain a wishlist[1] of ideas of various levels of craziness I would like to see implemented and directions I would like Debian to go in. Some of these should be moved to bugs, but at least they are somewhere more public than

Re: Your opinion on Debian Maintainer status

2013-03-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-17 00:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote: while reviewing the vote that introduced the Debian Maintainer status in 2007 (http://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003_tally.txt) I noticed that Lucas voted in favor and that Moray voted against it. Moray, why did you vote against? I'll follow up

Re: various ideas

2013-03-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-17 07:00, Paul Wise wrote: Would becoming DPL increase the chance that you would work on any of these ideas? Would not becoming DPL increase the chance that you would work on any of these ideas? Becoming DPL would certainly make work on this myself: better communication on

Re: Your opinion on Debian Maintainer status

2013-03-17 Thread Gergely Nagy
Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: On 17-03-13 02:02, Gergely Nagy wrote: Arno Töll a...@debian.org writes: In fact, even the wiki says Becoming a Debian Developer: You should be a Debian Maintainer for six months before applying to the Debian New Member Process [1]. That's somewhat

Re: [all candidates] on distribution-wide changes and scalability

2013-03-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/03/13 at 15:03 +0300, Moray Allan wrote: Implementing dh(1) or source format 3, notwithstanding their advantages for DD's, is successful if the generated binary packages are the same as before. Should we really focus more effort on increasing the existing convergence? No, I don't

Re: [all candidates] on distribution-wide changes and scalability

2013-03-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-17 16:27, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Actually, I disagree that we should not focus more effort on increasing the existing convergence. I was replying as part of a discussion of using NMUs to increase convergence, not on whether convergence is good in general. So despite your I

Re: [all candidates] on distribution-wide changes and scalability

2013-03-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/03/13 at 16:34 +0300, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-03-17 16:27, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Actually, I disagree that we should not focus more effort on increasing the existing convergence. I was replying as part of a discussion of using NMUs to increase convergence, not on whether

Re: to DPL candidates: getting new people to Debian

2013-03-17 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 04:28:03PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote [edited]: On 16/03/13 at 15:31 +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: have you considered assignments for the preparation of patches for wishlist bugs in native and pseudo-packages (eg. infra-related sw projects)? Have others

Re: to DPL candidates: getting new people to Debian

2013-03-17 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 03:47:57PM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: Serafeim Zanikolas s...@debian.org writes: If you refer to university students in some software-related discipline: have you considered assignments for the preparation of patches for wishlist bugs in native and

Re: to DPL candidates: getting new people to Debian

2013-03-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/03/13 at 14:54 +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 04:28:03PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote [edited]: On 16/03/13 at 15:31 +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: have you considered assignments for the preparation of patches for wishlist bugs in native and

Re: not being elected?

2013-03-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-17 07:19, Paul Wise wrote: What do you plan to work on if you are not elected? If I am not elected, then by default almost all my Debian time would continue to be taken up by DebConf work. However, after setting out my my ideas about Debian teams more clearly for my platform, I

Re: Your opinion on Debian Maintainer status

2013-03-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-17 14:50, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-03-17 00:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote: while reviewing the vote that introduced the Debian Maintainer status in 2007 (http://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003_tally.txt) I noticed that Lucas voted in favor and that Moray voted against it. Moray,

Re: Your opinion on Debian Maintainer status

2013-03-17 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-17 14:50, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-03-17 00:13, Raphael Hertzog wrote: while reviewing the vote that introduced the Debian Maintainer status in 2007 (http://www.debian.org/vote/2007/vote_003_tally.txt) I noticed that Lucas voted in favor and that Moray voted against it. Moray,