Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double RDNS

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Landry
I don't know of a way to do this with Declude currently, however, this is a test that I do run on my Postfix gateways. Here is a description of the Postfix test: reject_unknown_client Reject the request when the client IP address has no PTR (address to name) record in the DNS, or when the PTR

Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
All so much hokum. Not hokum to a commercial developer. Let's see: you've already (1) greatly enhanced interoperability with third-party applications in your new version and (2) greatly enhanced the performance of the underlying platform, thus making the combination of

[Declude.JunkMail] Attachments JM

2003-06-27 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message Scott: Are there plans for excluding attachments from being scanned by JM? It is real difficult not to have FP's if attachments are in the body of email. It seems like attachments are scanned and naturally the types like Word, PDF, Excel all will show characters that can

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Double RDNS

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
Although the Postfix test is a bit more stringent (rejecting if no PTR exists - equivalent to the Declude JunkMail REVDNS test), I think testing for matching forward and reverse records in a weighting system would be a very good test. I would suggest that it probably be best to just match the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Fail two tests, get extra points

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
We run Sniffer, and we're testing Alligate (soon to be buying). I'd like to set up a test that adds points if BOTH tests fail. An Accelerator test, I guess. Unfortunately, there isn't any way of doing that currently. -Scott --- Declude

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Attachments JM

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
Are there plans for excluding attachments from being scanned by JM? This question comes fairly often (usually in other forms, though). The answer is Yes, we do plan on adding full MIME support to an upcoming release. It is real difficult not to have FP's if attachments are in the body of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Attachments JM

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
In looking at the email with PDF attachment I saw the following: Content-Type: application/pdf; Is this typically the case? It depends. If the mailer knows that a .PDF file should be of the MIME type application/pdf, you will probably see a Content-Type: application/pdf; header. But, it's

[Declude.JunkMail] Any ideas about Dartmail.net?

2003-06-27 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message Hi; We receive a lot of newsletters using Dartmail.net. Does anyone know of SPAM sent from this company? We are thinking of the wild idea of whitelisting their REVDNS. X-Note: Sent from Reverse DNS: mta2.primary.ddc.dartmail.net ([146.82.220.230]). So far we have ran a

Re: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Landry
How are queue management and statistical content filtering even remotely related to each other? Name some other mail servers that you know combine these processes. How is it that you can speak so authoritatively about this subject? Unless you tell me that you consulted with IPSwitch on this

[Declude.JunkMail] Nolegit test

2003-06-27 Thread Jason Newland
I would like to begin using the NOLEGITCONTENT test, but the mail archives are down :(. Can someone send me the lines I need in the configs to get this going? Thanks Jason

[Declude.JunkMail] BODY filter problems again

2003-06-27 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
I posted a few weeks back regarding a problem with FP's in scanning attachments using a text filter we have setup; thanks to Scott's help, that problem seemed to be isolated to a high-end character in one of the BODY CONTAINS tests we had - that resolved just fine... Now again, all of a sudden,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Nolegit test

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
I would like to begin using the NOLEGITCONTENT test, but the mail archives are down :(. Can someone send me the lines I need in the configs to get this going? You can use: NOLEGITCONTENT nolegitcontent x x 0 -8 this would go in the global.cfg file (you don't need any other lines

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Nolegit test

2003-06-27 Thread Jason Newland
Thanks Scott (and Bill) We are holding on 20 right now (with very few FPs), so without divulging the details of the test, is -8 too much or too little a weight? Or should I just test test test to see what types of mail are failing/passing the test? Thanks Gents! Jason - Original Message

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Political Spam

2003-06-27 Thread Keith Purtell
For some reason the political spam coming across our server is mostly radical right. I've seen exactly one liberal message, and that was a subscription that accidentally got caught in our spam traps. Keith Purtell, Web/Network Administrator VantageMed Operations (Kansas City) Email: [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Nolegit test

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Landry
In Global.cfg add a line like: NOLEGITCONTENTnolegitcontentxx0-5 Then adjust the weight to your liking. Remember, this test operates like the IPNOTINMX test in that it is meant to reward (by deducting weight) messages that meet the test requirements rather that penalize them like most of

Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
How are queue management and statistical content filtering even remotely related to each other? Message filtering and delivery have ALWAYS been paired within the IMail process flow. I don't think you've been polite enough to deserve an explanation of the similarities in

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY filter problems again

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
I deleted that line in testing and messages with these types of attachments immediately began failing another line - BODY 20 CONTAINS full nudity Have you checked the lines just before and just after that one? There is a slight chance that the line numbering could be off for some reason.

[Declude.JunkMail] Way OT: IMail Host Aliases on Exchange 2000

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, We are in the process of moving the users, aliases and host aliases of our in-house domains from IMail over to Exchange 2000. We are still going to be passing our incoming mail through our IMail server to take advantage of Spam and Virus Filtering. I've been able to recreate almost

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Horne
Bill is correct. DISABLE fixup to ENABLE ESMTP and SMTP Auth. From the PIX manual: fixup protocol smtp [port[-port]] The fixup protocol smtp command enables the Mail Guard feature. This restricts mail servers to receiving the seven minimal commands defined in RFC 821, section 4.5.1 (HELO,

[Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist body instead of anywhere?

2003-06-27 Thread Marc Catuogno
Does Whitelist BODY the secret code is 1234 work or does it have to be anywhere? TIA - Marc --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist body instead of anywhere?

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
Does Whitelist BODY the secret code is 1234 work or does it have to be anywhere? No, you would need to use WHITELIST ANYWHERE The secret code is 1234. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Landry
Scott has mentioned on this list many times in the past the process order between IMail and Declude: Here is the order (from Scott): [1] IMail's Control Access file [2] IMail's Kill List [3] Declude Virus [4] Declude Junkmail [5] IMail rules Looks like all global filter processing by IMail has

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Way OT: IMail Host Aliases on Exchange 2000

2003-06-27 Thread Stanley Lyzak
That would be setup (after creating the base domain naming convention in Exchange- the default email address domain name). It is configured in Exchange system manager, Go to Recipients, Recipient Policies, edit the default policy, go to the second tab marked: Email Addresses Policy. Add the

Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
How are queue management and statistical content filtering even remotely related to each other? Message filtering and delivery have ALWAYS been paired within the IMail process flow. I don't think you've been polite enough to deserve an explanation of the similarities in

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Way OT: IMail Host Aliases on Exchange 2000

2003-06-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Rolling Eyes See my reply on Imail list. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist body instead of anywhere?

2003-06-27 Thread Marc Catuogno
Crud... But the WHITELIST only does a complete match, right? so if I had slug as the whitelist word, the word sluggish in the headers or body wouldn't count. Right? Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, June 27,

Re: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Landry
Gee, Sandy, are you throwing in the towel already? That's certainly not like you, to be giving up so quickly and easily! ;-) Ok, I know I wasn't all that polite (as you pointed out), but I thought we were having a good spar anyway. Oh well, my bad... Bill - Original Message - From:

Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
Scott has mentioned on this list many times in the past the process order between IMail and Declude... Yes, and you're not interpreting the order correctly. IMail has always performed all content-based filtering after submission, during the filtering/delivery stage once represented by

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelist body instead of anywhere?

2003-06-27 Thread R. Scott Perry
But the WHITELIST only does a complete match, right? Correct. But: so if I had slug as the whitelist word, the word sluggish in the headers or body wouldn't count. Right? If you had WHITELIST BODY slug, then an E-mail with the word sluggish would get caught. No Declude functions attempt to

[Declude.JunkMail] interesting idea from a bulk marketer

2003-06-27 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Since yesterday I have been in contact with a very helpful mail admin. It seems one of my users has an outside email address at bigfoot and was forwarding all his email to our server from there. One opt-in list he is on was getting bounced. In the process of finding out that email sent directly

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Patnode
Stops the telemarketers (with some exceptions), debuted this morning: http://donotcall.gov/ More junk stopping info: http://www.obviously.com/junkmail/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing

[Declude.JunkMail] Weight problem ?

2003-06-27 Thread David Barrett
I had a customer send me the headers of an email that did not get caught held ) that should have.. At least I think it should have... snip X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [801f]. X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Way OT: IMail Host Aliases on Exchange 2000

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Geiser
Thanks, Stanley! That's exactly the sort of advice that I was looking for! It worked like a charm. Take Care, Dan - Original Message - From: Stanley Lyzak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:52 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Way OT: IMail Host

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Geiser
There is some helpful info here as well... http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/donotcall/index.html - Original Message - From: Dan Patnode [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry Stops

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] interesting idea from a bulk marketer

2003-06-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Or is it a ploy to harvest more addresses? John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sheldon Koehler Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:25 PM

Re: Re[8]: [Declude.JunkMail] Test on Imail X-header

2003-06-27 Thread Bill Landry
You seem to be talking all around the real issue, and that is that all global (not individual) content filtering should be done prior to invoking any other third-party apps, which is where it is most appropriately done. Individual content filtering is user specific, and so it make sense that this

[Declude.JunkMail] Mail Client with Redirect Command

2003-06-27 Thread Jeff Pereira
Can anyone out there recommend a Windows based email client that supports the redirect command ?? Thank you. Jeff

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY filter problems again

2003-06-27 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Checked 3 lines and 3 lines below - I failed to mentioned - and this will blow more minds - the 1st failure line was line 120 , after I deleted that, the failure line immediately became line 136. I have removed all BODY filter tags out for now until I time to go back and add a block 5 at a time

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Mail Client with Redirect Command

2003-06-27 Thread Smart Business Lists
Friday, June 27, 2003 you wrote: JP Can anyone out there recommend a Windows based email client JP that supports the redirect command ?? the Bat! http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/index.html Terry Fritts --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] ---

[Declude.JunkMail] time-dependently hold weight

2003-06-27 Thread Markus Gufler
Title: Nachricht Hi spam-fighters, What do you think about a time-dependently hold weight? Maybe this can be helpfull on certain systems (where all users work in the same time zone) to reduce FP's. For further explanation please see the PDF-file located at

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] time-dependently hold weight

2003-06-27 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Title: Nachricht Go to sleep Markus. It has been too long of a week to think. John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Gufler

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Patnode
More info and stats: http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/advice/20030627a1.asp The Federal Trade Commission says more than 1,000 people per second are trying to register either online or by phone. In an ironic twist, a technology consulting firm discovered that spam filters, specifically

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] time-dependently hold weight

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Patnode
Its been a horrible week, but I need the distraction... I've considered this a few times, every time I prepare to suggest it I remember what happened with my idea to test for long subjects, there just isn't enough uniformity. My concern isn't so much uniformity of technical things like

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: National Do Not Call Registry

2003-06-27 Thread Todd Holt
When will the government listen to the will of the people and just outlaw spam and tele-marketing (with severe enough penalties to deter)? Ooops. I'm sorry. I had brain fart. I wasn't thinking that the lobbyists for keeping spam and tele-marketing around have deeper pockets than the poor

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Attachments JM

2003-06-27 Thread Kami Razvan
Scott: Thanks for your comment... May be you can answer this question before we can figure out through iterations. In looking at the email with PDF attachment I saw the following: Content-Type: application/pdf; Is this typically the case? If so I think we can assign negative weight to this as

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Getting Ready to Activate SPAMDOMAINS

2003-06-27 Thread Dan Geiser
Hi, Again, Would anyone care to comment on my original posting? If my questions are too simple or complex or some place in between or my message is too long or the questions themselves just don't have an answer then please let me know and I'll try and proceed with my current knowledge base.