[Declude.JunkMail] Country-TLD vs. country of origin

2003-07-18 Thread Markus Gufler
Ca we assign some points if a message has as sender-domain a country-tld but the message was send from a completely different country? For example below a message with an japanese sender domains but send from Mexico. Received: from

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Country-TLD vs. country of origin

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Ca we assign some points if a message has as sender-domain a country-tld but the message was send from a completely different country? Not yet, but that's something that we do want to add. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelists

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Can you list an entire subnet in the ip whitelist? Messages generated by our servers are being marked as spam as well as postmaster messages saying that a mail could not be delivered. Yes: You can also use a CIDR range, such as WHITELIST IP 127.0.0.0/8 or WHITELIST IP 192.0.2.0/24 (see the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelists

2003-07-18 Thread Mark Gordon
Title: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Whitelists Can you list an entire subnet in the ip whitelist? Messages generated by our servers are being marked as spam as well as postmaster messages saying that a mail could not be delivered. -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] DNS and MX record question

2003-07-18 Thread Jeffrey Di Gregorio
Hello all, I have 3 mx records for my domain. The first 2 are pointing to the external mail gateways (primary and backup) both running Imail with declude junkmail/virus. The 3rd mx record points directly to my internal exchange server (running scanmail), which bypasses all junkmail and virus

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS and MX record question

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have 3 mx records for my domain. The first 2 are pointing to the external mail gateways (primary and backup) both running Imail with declude junkmail/virus. The 3rd mx record points directly to my internal exchange server (running scanmail), which bypasses all junkmail and virus scanning by

[Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Kami Razvan
Title: Message Hi.. I have been looking at this trend and perhaps having another tool in our arsenal could help. Can there be a header or a variable we can assign weight to for DNS? A lot of spam houses have a DNS server and several that I checked were showing the same name server for

[Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread Jose Gosende
I have this in my default file: WEIGHT10HOLD WEIGHT10A ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEIGHT20HOLD And this in my GLOBAL file: WEIGHT10weight x x 10 0 WEIGHT10A weightx x 100 WEIGHT20weight x x

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS and MX record question

2003-07-18 Thread Russ Uhte (Lists)
What is happening here is that the spammer is using their own software (spamware) to send the spam. Knowing that many people don't scan E-mail that comes through their backup mailserver(s), their spamware chooses to try the backup mailservers first. If your Exchange server isn't running any

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have this in my default file: WEIGHT10HOLD WEIGHT10A ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEIGHT20HOLD And this in my GLOBAL file: WEIGHT10weight x x 10 0 WEIGHT10A weightx x 100 WEIGHT20weight x x

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have been looking at this trend and perhaps having another tool in our arsenal could help. Can there be a header or a variable we can assign weight to for DNS? A lot of spam houses have a DNS server and several that I checked were showing the same name server for their domains. Just like a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread Jose Gosende
OK. So, what's the proper syntax to HOLD and ROUTE the email to me? ie: is this valid? WEIGHT10HOLD,ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
OK. So, what's the proper syntax to HOLD and ROUTE the email to me? ie: is this valid? WEIGHT10HOLD,ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have everything set up properly. The problem is: The catch here is that you have told Declude JunkMail that if an E-mail fails the WEIGHT10 test, it should

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Geiser
Hi, Jose, OK. So, what's the proper syntax to HOLD and ROUTE the email to me? ie: is this valid? WEIGHT10HOLD,ROUTETO [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you just use the ROUTETO action the message will be sent to you. In addition it will not be delivered to the recipient which is the equivalent of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread Jose Gosende
Do you have any suggestions for me to accomplish this? I'm sure other users have done something similar before. Thanks again, Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Config Question

2003-07-18 Thread Jose Gosende
Got it, thanks for your input. I guess I will use ROUTETO for a few days and switch back to HOLD at some point. Jose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Geiser Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

[Declude.JunkMail] 'Mail From' question

2003-07-18 Thread Rob Salmond
I have noticed that many spam headers contain a Received From: line with conflicted ip addresses. I had thought this line was supposed to show RECEIVED FROM: some_domain.cx [ip of domain] However I have many that look like this: Received: from 64.119.218.151.nnt6us.com [64.119.218.151] by mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Best Practices question

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Horne
I would also like the script, thanks. Regards, Dan Horne -- Quote of the day: Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would they still grow, only to be troubled and insecure? - Dan Horne, CCNA Systems Administrator TAIS Web Wilcox World Travel Tours

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] JM logging

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is there any way to prevent logging scan results for all incoming mail? Ideally, I would prefer to log only for those domains and/or users which I designate by giving them their own $default$.junkmail file. No, the log settings will apply to all users. I have tried to delete the top level

[Declude.JunkMail] Comment Lines in Text Files Used by Tests

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, Does anyone know if you can use GLOBAL.CFG-style comment lines (# Your comment goes here) in the flat text files used for the FILTER, FROMFILE, IPFILE and SPAMDOMAINS test types? Thanks, Much! Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Declude.JunkMail] Is Declude causing this?

2003-07-18 Thread Chuck Schick
We see the following hammering on one of our DNS servers (log copy below). 204.188.100.4 is an IP assigned to the NIC on the mail server (although it is not assigned to any mail domain or web site) and 206.168.216.6 is one of the DNS servers. We are seeing this behavior sporadically and it is

[Declude.JunkMail] Musical MX Records

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Patnode
I run a gateway configuration with clients changing their entire MX record to my servers, which in turn point back to the client's server. In this way, clients don't need to change anything else on their end and everyone is happy. The original email server stays wide open and no one is the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Patnode
Can't wait for this one! On Friday, July 18, 2003 11:10, R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been looking at this trend and perhaps having another tool in our arsenal could help. Can there be a header or a variable we can assign weight to for DNS? A lot of spam houses have a DNS

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Comment Lines in Text Files Used byTests

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
Does anyone know if you can use GLOBAL.CFG-style comment lines (# Your comment goes here) in the flat text files used for the FILTER, FROMFILE, IPFILE and SPAMDOMAINS test types? Yes, you can -- at the beginning of the lines. In many of the files, they can't be used in the middle of the line

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Musical MX Records

2003-07-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi Pat: The fix is for the client to firewall block IPs that aren't mine but this doesn't feel right. Why not? If INDEED their IP address is not listed on any domain's MX record, then this server should indeed only accept contacts from your IP range. Any other contact is either a SPAM,

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Rifat Levis
It is seems like a intersting test , but it will do more harm to ISP , I am just thinking my case , having more than thousands domains. If 1 of those domains start doing a spam , thousands of others will have problems. The isp mail servers also . Adding a small weight can do the job :) Rifat

[Declude.JunkMail] New type of test and Dynamic config file

2003-07-18 Thread Rifat Levis
My server is receiving a mail from an ip address listed in spamcop. This mail does not fail any other test . Before the ip address get listed in many RBL , some spam go in. It is not a big amount. I just thought that if some sort of counter can be integrated in declude this can be prevented .

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is Declude causing this?

2003-07-18 Thread R. Scott Perry
We see the following hammering on one of our DNS servers (log copy below). 204.188.100.4 is an IP assigned to the NIC on the mail server (although it is not assigned to any mail domain or web site) and 206.168.216.6 is one of the DNS servers. We are seeing this behavior sporadically and it is

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Joshua Levitsky
Think of the companies that offer spammers a haven. If you could block everything hosted by that ISP it would be wicked nice. There's no end to the mail servers these bastards can setup, but registered DNS servers is a whole other story. I don't take mail if there's no PTR, and the HELO has no A

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Be careful blocking solely on RDNS and HELOBOGUS. There are many legitimate mail servers out there with ignorant DNS admins. We are lucky to have Scott, Len (on the Imail list), and DNS Stuff/Report. I have taken the approach to attempt to enlighten them with the following email. Because my users

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Jason Newland
Great letter Kevin, but I recently tried to explain this to a company and their engineer said that it was by design. His explanation was that they did it for security/obscurity reasons and we were applying to strong restrictions on mail delivery. Sometimes you just can't win with these

[Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topic

2003-07-18 Thread Glenn Brooks
We got listed on the ORDB database as a mail relay...everywhere I test mail relay, it says we are not running a relay. When looking at the logs...it appears ORDB can get my mail server to mail to their email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] you can see the report at:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS Test?

2003-07-18 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Exactly thats why I mentioned ignorant admins. I tell them that it is there decision to have there email delayed by not being RFC complient and I just want them to know the consequences. I generally find some one in management to CC when I sent this response. When CCing I place the origional email

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topic

2003-07-18 Thread Rifat Levis
Glenn , I guess on your IMAIL you have selected relay for local users or local hosts, You better change it to ip address . And use SMTP AUTH for clients not in your ip block I just did a telnet to your server and send mail from user root to my mail adress . Other relay tester didnt use a

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topic

2003-07-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message What are your Imail settings with respect to relaying? Looks as if you may have defined "permit for local hosts" - which is misleading, because all it requires is that the sender use one of your domain names to be able to relay through your system. You need to either do

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topic

2003-07-18 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Are you using the PERCENT test? They are using something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]@domain.com. From the JunkMail manual: PERCENT This test will catch all mail with To: addresses that contain a percent sign. The percent sign indicates an outdated routing method

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ORDB problem, slightly off topic

2003-07-18 Thread Glenn Brooks
Thankssounds like I am going to have to contact 1500 clients about setting Authorize on thei email client.. Gb At 10:09 PM 7/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: What are your Imail settings with respect to relaying? Looks as if you may have defined permit for local hosts - which is misleading,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] XOUTHEADER shows up in the body

2003-07-18 Thread Dan Keltgen
What is the last header that is in the E-mail headers? What is the first header in the E-mail body? Those headers should provide some clues. -Scott Here are the headers: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from smtpin2.usinternet.com